RE: Bad Autonumbers
Fred Ridder wrote: > But if you set the properties to "Continue", it *is* possible > to reset a specific paragraph numbering series by formatting > a paragraph with an autonumber formula that explicitly sets > the appropriate counter elements in the series definition to > the desired values. Of course -- good point. It's been so long since I used old-style (pre-FM6) numbering series with FigureFirst tags, etc., that I didn't think of that. So, Randall has one more thing to check besides the file-level and book-level numbering settings: every friggin' pgf tag's autonumber setting, looking for one that resets this counter. Have fun with that, R. :-} Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Bad Autonumbers
Ahh, based on this description, I think you need to look for some rogue paragraph that is formatted with the same numbering series label (P) that you are using in your document, but with some other definition. But because finding such a rogue paragraph can be a real PITA, the easiest solution may be to change the label in the tag(s) you are actually using so that there will no longer be any interference. Fred Ridder Subject: RE: Bad AutonumbersDate: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:26:39 -0400From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; framers@lists.frameusers.com Good point Fred. My craziness is due to the fact that some are working continuously, then another file comes up and BANG, I'm back to 001 again. Not good... Thanks! R. From: Fred Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:23 AMTo: Combs, Richard; Randall C. Reed; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RE: Bad Autonumbers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> But the autonumber isn't a page number, it's a paragraph number. You> need to set paragraph numbering to continue. Note, however, that this> affects all paragraph autonumber series; you can't have, for instance,> figure numbers restart while your package numbers continue. Just to amplify a bit: If you set a file's paragraph numbering properties to "Restart", you cannot have a mixture of continuing and resetting counter values. The "Restart" setting affects *all* paragraph numbering series and there is no way for any of them to continue from the preceding file's value. But if you set the properties to "Continue", it *is* possible to reset a specific paragraph numbering series by formatting a paragraph with an autonumber formula that explicitly sets the appropriate counter elements in the series definition to the desired values. Fred Ridder Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! Try now! This material contains confidential and proprietary information of Force Protection, Inc. and its subsidiaries. Copying this material or disclosing such information to others without the Company's prior consent is prohibited. This material may also contain technical data relating to a "Defense Article" within the meaning of the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (22 CFR Part 120). The transfer or disclosure of this information to any non-U.S. person or company without any required export license approved by the United States Department of State, Directorate of Defense Trade Controls may be prohibited under federal law. Force Protection Industries, Inc. _ Help yourself to FREE treats served up daily at the Messenger Café. Stop by today. http://www.cafemessenger.com/info/info_sweetstuff2.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_OctWLtagline___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Bad Autonumbers
Good point Fred. My craziness is due to the fact that some are working continuously, then another file comes up and BANG, I'm back to 001 again. Not good... Thanks! R. From: Fred Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:23 AM To: Combs, Richard; Randall C. Reed; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Bad Autonumbers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > But the autonumber isn't a page number, it's a paragraph number. You > need to set paragraph numbering to continue. Note, however, that this > affects all paragraph autonumber series; you can't have, for instance, > figure numbers restart while your package numbers continue. Just to amplify a bit: If you set a file's paragraph numbering properties to "Restart", you cannot have a mixture of continuing and resetting counter values. The "Restart" setting affects *all* paragraph numbering series and there is no way for any of them to continue from the preceding file's value. But if you set the properties to "Continue", it *is* possible to reset a specific paragraph numbering series by formatting a paragraph with an autonumber formula that explicitly sets the appropriate counter elements in the series definition to the desired values. Fred Ridder Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! Try now! <http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hot mailnews> This material contains confidential and proprietary information of Force Protection, Inc. and its subsidiaries. Copying this material or disclosing such information to others without the Company's prior consent is prohibited. This material may also contain technical data relating to a "Defense Article" within the meaning of the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (22 CFR Part 120). The transfer or disclosure of this information to any non-U.S. person or company without any required export license approved by the United States Department of State, Directorate of Defense Trade Controls may be prohibited under federal law. Force Protection Industries, Inc. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Bad Autonumbers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > But the autonumber isn't a page number, it's a paragraph number. You > need to set paragraph numbering to continue. Note, however, that this > affects all paragraph autonumber series; you can't have, for instance, > figure numbers restart while your package numbers continue. Just to amplify a bit: If you set a file's paragraph numbering properties to "Restart", you cannot have a mixture of continuing and resetting counter values. The "Restart" setting affects *all* paragraph numbering series and there is no way for any of them to continue from the preceding file's value. But if you set the properties to "Continue", it *is* possible to reset a specific paragraph numbering series by formatting a paragraph with an autonumber formula that explicitly sets the appropriate counter elements in the series definition to the desired values. Fred Ridder _ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Bad Autonumbers
Randall C. Reed wrote: > I cannot get a "work package number" autonumber to work > properly in the files at the beginning of the book. > "P:000" just returns "0001". > I've gone into the document menu on both the book and > individual files and set the "Page" numbering feature to > "Continue." But the autonumber isn't a page number, it's a paragraph number. You need to set paragraph numbering to continue. Note, however, that this affects all paragraph autonumber series; you can't have, for instance, figure numbers restart while your package numbers continue. Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Bad Autonumbers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] describes the following issue: > > Unstructured Frame 7.2 on XP V2002 SP2: I've got 400 files in the book. > I cannot get a "work package number" autonumber to work properly in the > files at the beginning of the book. "P:000" just returns "0001". > I've gone into the document menu on both the book and individual files > and set the "Page" numbering feature to "Continue." Updated book > numerous times. Re-imported formats. When I add a hard number to the > autonumber in an individual file, it immediately responds with the > correct value on the page, so apparently the tag and function are > working properly. > > - What will fix these random "bad" autonumbers? > > - If I "hardwire" the bad autonumber (change it from "P:000" to > "P:0008", for example) with the following numbers pick up normally > ("P:0009", etc., in this example)? > > This is crazy. It is just an autonumber. I've been using FM for 13 years > and I know it is not suppose to be this hard to troubleshoot an > autonumber problem. Except for digesting 400 files in the book, it > should work like a champ, but it is not. What stupid thing am I doing >wrong? I'm a little confused about what it is you are trying to do. You are talking about a paragraph autonumber format, yet you are trying to control it using the numbering properties setting for the Page numbering, which is totally independent. The Page numbering properties settings only affect the page number elements on the Master Pages, while paragraph numbering formats only operate on Body Pages. Are you trying to use paragraph numbering in a header or footer frame on a Master Page? If so, that's your problem, because the header and footer frames are not part of any Body Page flow. If you need to specify a particular starting value for a paragraph numbering series, you either do it from the Paragraph tab of the Numbering Properties window, or else by using a hard-coded autonumber definitions using the form "P:000<=8>" to implement the example you mention. The next paragraph that uses the "P" numbering series with the formula "P:000" will then increment the number to 0009, and the next one after that will increment it to 00010 (which may not be what you relly want, I'm guessing...). Fred Ridder _ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Bad Autonumbers
I am not quite sure I understand what you are trying to do. It seems to me you are mixing methods. On one hand you are using an autonumbering of a paragraph and on the other hand you want to control it with a system variable for page numbering. That, to my knowledge, cannot be done. This is one of the things we are missing in FM: the ability to assign leading zeros to the numbering. If you add leading zeros like text in the autonumbering or before a page number the number of zeros will always be the same. One workaround would be to assign different set of master pages to each given number of leading zeros (as I think I recall there was a discussion about earlier this year). Whether you would have to manually assign these master pages or you could make a [fake?] paragraph or element that you put on the page starting the next level (from 0009 to 0010 -- using the ref page master page assignment system), would depend on your set of files. There might be a possible solution doing this automatically with FrameScript. Bodvar On 10/3/07, Randall C. Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Listers: > > Unstructured Frame 7.2 on XP V2002 SP2: I've got 400 files in the book. > I cannot get a "work package number" autonumber to work properly in the > files at the beginning of the book. "P:000" just returns "0001". > I've gone into the document menu on both the book and individual files > and set the "Page" numbering feature to "Continue." Updated book > numerous times. Re-imported formats. When I add a hard number to the > autonumber in an individual file, it immediately responds with the > correct value on the page, so apparently the tag and function are > working properly. > > - What will fix these random "bad" autonumbers? > > - If I "hardwire" the bad autonumber (change it from "P:000" to > "P:0008", for example) with the following numbers pick up normally > ("P:0009", etc., in this example)? > > This is crazy. It is just an autonumber. I've been using FM for 13 years > and I know it is not suppose to be this hard to troubleshoot an > autonumber problem. Except for digesting 400 files in the book, it > should work like a champ, but it is not. What stupid thing am I doing > wrong? > > TIA, > > Randall C. Reed > Senior Technical Writer > Force Protection Industries, Inc. > > This material contains confidential and proprietary information of Force > Protection, Inc. and its subsidiaries. Copying this material or disclosing > such information to others without the Company's prior consent is prohibited. > This material may also contain technical data relating to a "Defense Article" > within the meaning of the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (22 CFR > Part 120). The transfer or disclosure of this information to any non-U.S. > person or company without any required export license approved by the United > States Department of State, Directorate of Defense Trade Controls may be > prohibited under federal law. > Force Protection Industries, Inc. > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.