RE: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character Designer

2014-02-03 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
David,

The only time I've ever experienced the behavior you are describing is if I had 
been running FrameMaker with more than one monitor and had some menus (e.g. 
Para Designer / Char Designer) displayed off of the main monitor. That is 
probably not the cause for you.

What you are experiencing is definitely not normal, with FrameMaker 12. When 
you first start FrameMaker, if you invoke the paragraph designer via Format 
menu or shortcut (Control-m) the menu should simply appear, docked in the right 
hand side of screen.

FM 12 has a new feature that enables you to save selected files when you quit 
FrameMaker. When you restart FrameMaker, you can use a Restore last session 
command: it will open the last documents you saved and even display the same 
zoom level and the same page that you were on. Pods will be in same display. 
You can see this in action in a 90 second video that demonstrates this feature 
at: http://adobe.ly/1eBC4Hl




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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Downing
Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 2:11 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character Designer

I was humming along very nicely with one of those tutorials until I hit a major 
snag. I was supposd to do something with the paragraph designer, and neither 
the tutorial nor the FM 12 User Guide was very clear on how to get to it. I 
searched on my own, and found the menu option Format - Paragraph - Designer, 
which looked like what I should select. So I selected it and -- nothing 
happened. At least, nothing appeared that I could recognize as the Paragraph 
Designer. The same thing happened with the character designer. So either I'm 
making some kind of error or something's wrong with my copy of FM. I hope it's 
my error and you can tell me how to correct it.

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Re: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character Designer

2014-02-03 Thread Robert Lauriston
Floating windows caused all kinds of problems for me in FM10. I gave
up and just adapted to the less efficient default docked UI settings.

On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 6:14 AM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Can somebody test Robert's list of broken sortcuts in FM12 and post the
 results. (He's using FM10 if I recall correctly.)

 I have to say that in FM11 I've never seen Ctrl-M and Ctrl-D not bring up
 the Paragraph and Character Designers above the other workspace elements. I
 always work with the active document files docked. A floating document
 window might cause a problem obscuring other elements, but I don't know
 that.

 Craig

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 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston
 Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 1:03 PM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character
 Designer

 The new UI layered on top of the ancient one in FM9 introduced the problem
 David is encountering where dialogs and windows open behind other UI
 elements. It also broke many of the keyboard shortcuts I had relied on for
 years. I posted a list:

 http://forums.adobe.com/message/4798387
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RE: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character Designer

2014-02-03 Thread Harro de Jong
Harro de Jong wrote: 


 You can add or modify any shortcut you want.
 In the folder FrameMaker\fminit\configui you can find a couple of files that
 contain all of the shortcuts.
 The instructions are no longer included with newer versions of FrameMaker.
 IIRC Frame 7 included a PDF with instructions.
 
 
 You can either modify the existing files, or (better) create a file named
 customui.cfg
 
 This should contain entries in the vein of:
 Modify CharacterDefaultPgfFont KeySequence /F8
 Modify ZoomInKeySequence ^ i
 Modify ZoomOut   KeySequence ^ u
 
 'CharacterDefaultPgfFont' is a string you can find in the other .cfg files. 
 Find the
 string for the command you want to modify, and create a line in customui.cfg.
 
 ;the semicolon indicates a comment
 modifier keys: + for Shift, ^ for Control, ~ for Alt, \ for Esc

The last instruction contains an error, you need to type \! instead of \ for 
Esc. 


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RE: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character Designer

2014-02-03 Thread Craig Ede
Can somebody test Robert's list of broken sortcuts in FM12 and post the
results. (He's using FM10 if I recall correctly.)

I have to say that in FM11 I've never seen Ctrl-M and Ctrl-D not bring up
the Paragraph and Character Designers above the other workspace elements. I
always work with the active document files docked. A floating document
window might cause a problem obscuring other elements, but I don't know
that.

Craig

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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character
Designer

The new UI layered on top of the ancient one in FM9 introduced the problem
David is encountering where dialogs and windows open behind other UI
elements. It also broke many of the keyboard shortcuts I had relied on for
years. I posted a list:

http://forums.adobe.com/message/4798387
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Re: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character Designer

2014-01-30 Thread Robert Lauriston
The new UI layered on top of the ancient one in FM9 introduced the
problem David is encountering where dialogs and windows open behind
other UI elements. It also broke many of the keyboard shortcuts I had
relied on for years. I posted a list:

http://forums.adobe.com/message/4798387
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Re: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character Designer

2014-01-30 Thread Peter Barraud
Has it by any chance appeared as a pod (not a dialog box) somewhere in one
of the pod groups?


On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 9:19 PM, Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I'd love to see all the old Mac shortcut keys to the interface
 (substituting Ctrl for the Apple key) as keystroke options. I had my old
 Unix machine set up to mimic those and that was the speediest access I have
 ever had to the interface. Saves wear and tear on the mousing hand, which
 is a big plus for me.

 Craig

 --
 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:16:09 -0500
 Subject: Re: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character
 Designer
 From: ljsims...@gmail.com
 To: mhoff...@adobe.com
 CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com


 Hey, Max, do the Esc shortcuts still work? Sometime around FM9, some of
 them (some of the table cursor movement ones) stopped working. I wish that
 could be fixed, too, and expanded to add the new features and commands.
 They're VERY useful for fast access to a lot of the submenus.




 On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.comwrote:

  David,



 Those commands should work. You might also try the shortcuts Control-M for
 para designer and Control-D for character designer. Check to see which
 workspace you are using.



 Make sure that you did not use Edit-Preferences and change your user
 interface to FrameMaker XML Editor ... which does make those menus go away.


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 framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *David Downing
 *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 2:11 PM
 *To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com
 *Subject:* Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character
 Designer



 I was humming along very nicely with one of those tutorials until I hit a
 major snag. I was supposd to do something with the paragraph designer, and
 neither the tutorial nor the FM 12 User Guide was very clear on how to get
 to it. I searched on my own, and found the menu option Format - Paragraph
 - Designer, which looked like what I should select. So I selected it and
 -- nothing happened. At least, nothing appeared that I could recognize as
 the Paragraph Designer. The same thing happened with the character
 designer. So either I'm making some kind of error or something's wrong with
 my copy of FM. I hope it's my error and you can tell me how to correct it.



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RE: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character Designer

2014-01-30 Thread Harro de Jong
Craig Ede wrote:


 I'd love to see all the old Mac shortcut keys to the interface (substituting 
 Ctrl
 for the Apple key) as keystroke options.

You can add or modify any shortcut you want. 
In the folder FrameMaker\fminit\configui you can find a couple of files that 
contain all of the shortcuts. 
The instructions are no longer included with newer versions of FrameMaker. IIRC 
Frame 7 included a PDF with instructions. 


You can either modify the existing files, or (better) create a file named 
customui.cfg

This should contain entries in the vein of:
Modify CharacterDefaultPgfFont KeySequence /F8
Modify ZoomIn  KeySequence ^ i
Modify ZoomOut KeySequence ^ u

'CharacterDefaultPgfFont' is a string you can find in the other .cfg files. 
Find the string for the command you want to modify, and create a line in 
customui.cfg. 

;the semicolon indicates a comment
modifier keys: + for Shift, ^ for Control, ~ for Alt, \ for Esc

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RE: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character Designer

2014-01-30 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
Lin,

I had a chance to spot check online Help in keyboard shortcuts for FM12, and 
they all appear to be there.

Check this help page:
http://adobe.ly/1eAcVwQ

I have tried over 20 ESC shortcuts in my use of the product and they all worked.



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From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 7:16 AM
To: Maxwell Hoffmann
Cc: David Downing; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character Designer

Hey, Max, do the Esc shortcuts still work? Sometime around FM9, some of them 
(some of the table cursor movement ones) stopped working. I wish that could be 
fixed, too, and expanded to add the new features and commands. They're VERY 
useful for fast access to a lot of the submenus.


On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Maxwell Hoffmann 
mhoff...@adobe.commailto:mhoff...@adobe.com wrote:
David,

Those commands should work. You might also try the shortcuts Control-M for para 
designer and Control-D for character designer. Check to see which workspace you 
are using.

Make sure that you did not use Edit-Preferences and change your user interface 
to FrameMaker XML Editor ... which does make those menus go away.



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Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 2:11 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.commailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character Designer

I was humming along very nicely with one of those tutorials until I hit a major 
snag. I was supposd to do something with the paragraph designer, and neither 
the tutorial nor the FM 12 User Guide was very clear on how to get to it. I 
searched on my own, and found the menu option Format - Paragraph - Designer, 
which looked like what I should select. So I selected it and -- nothing 
happened. At least, nothing appeared that I could recognize as the Paragraph 
Designer. The same thing happened with the character designer. So either I'm 
making some kind of error or something's wrong with my copy of FM. I hope it's 
my error and you can tell me how to correct it.


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Re: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character Designer

2014-01-29 Thread Robert Lauriston
Sometimes windows open behind other windows.

On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 2:10 PM, David Downing
david.h.down...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was humming along very nicely with one of those tutorials until I hit a
 major snag. I was supposd to do something with the paragraph designer, and
 neither the tutorial nor the FM 12 User Guide was very clear on how to get
 to it. I searched on my own, and found the menu option Format - Paragraph
 - Designer, which looked like what I should select. So I selected it and --
 nothing happened. At least, nothing appeared that I could recognize as the
 Paragraph Designer. The same thing happened with the character designer. So
 either I'm making some kind of error or something's wrong with my copy of
 FM. I hope it's my error and you can tell me how to correct it.
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RE: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character Designer

2014-01-29 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
David,

Those commands should work. You might also try the shortcuts Control-M for para 
designer and Control-D for character designer. Check to see which workspace you 
are using.

Make sure that you did not use Edit-Preferences and change your user interface 
to FrameMaker XML Editor ... which does make those menus go away.



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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character Designer

I was humming along very nicely with one of those tutorials until I hit a major 
snag. I was supposd to do something with the paragraph designer, and neither 
the tutorial nor the FM 12 User Guide was very clear on how to get to it. I 
searched on my own, and found the menu option Format - Paragraph - Designer, 
which looked like what I should select. So I selected it and -- nothing 
happened. At least, nothing appeared that I could recognize as the Paragraph 
Designer. The same thing happened with the character designer. So either I'm 
making some kind of error or something's wrong with my copy of FM. I hope it's 
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Re: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character Designer

2014-01-29 Thread Lin Sims
Hey, Max, do the Esc shortcuts still work? Sometime around FM9, some of
them (some of the table cursor movement ones) stopped working. I wish that
could be fixed, too, and expanded to add the new features and commands.
They're VERY useful for fast access to a lot of the submenus.




On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:15 PM, Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.comwrote:

  David,



 Those commands should work. You might also try the shortcuts Control-M for
 para designer and Control-D for character designer. Check to see which
 workspace you are using.



 Make sure that you did not use Edit-Preferences and change your user
 interface to FrameMaker XML Editor ... which does make those menus go away.


 * -- *



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 *Subject:* Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character
 Designer



 I was humming along very nicely with one of those tutorials until I hit a
 major snag. I was supposd to do something with the paragraph designer, and
 neither the tutorial nor the FM 12 User Guide was very clear on how to get
 to it. I searched on my own, and found the menu option Format - Paragraph
 - Designer, which looked like what I should select. So I selected it and
 -- nothing happened. At least, nothing appeared that I could recognize as
 the Paragraph Designer. The same thing happened with the character
 designer. So either I'm making some kind of error or something's wrong with
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RE: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character Designer

2014-01-29 Thread Craig Ede
I'd love to see all the old Mac shortcut keys to the interface (substituting 
Ctrl for the Apple key) as keystroke options. I had my old Unix machine set up 
to mimic those and that was the speediest access I have ever had to the 
interface. Saves wear and tear on the mousing hand, which is a big plus for me.

Craig 

Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:16:09 -0500
Subject: Re: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character Designer
From: ljsims...@gmail.com
To: mhoff...@adobe.com
CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com

Hey, Max, do the Esc shortcuts still work? Sometime around FM9, some of them 
(some of the table cursor movement ones) stopped working. I wish that could be 
fixed, too, and expanded to add the new features and commands. They're VERY 
useful for fast access to a lot of the submenus.





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David,
 
Those commands should work. You might also try the shortcuts Control-M for para 
designer and Control-D for character designer. Check to see which workspace
 you are using.
 
Make sure that you did not use Edit-Preferences and change your user interface 
to “FrameMaker XML Editor” … which does make those menus go away.

 



 
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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
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On Behalf Of David Downing

Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 2:11 PM

To: framers@lists.frameusers.com

Subject: Can't get to either the Paragraph Designer or Character Designer
 

I was humming along very nicely with one of those tutorials until I hit a major 
snag. I was supposd to do something with the paragraph designer, and neither 
the tutorial nor the FM 12 User Guide was very clear on how to get to it. I 
searched
 on my own, and found the menu option Format - Paragraph - Designer, which 
looked like what I should select. So I selected it and -- nothing happened. At 
least, nothing appeared that I could recognize as the Paragraph Designer. The 
same thing happened with
 the character designer. So either I'm making some kind of error or something's 
wrong with my copy of FM. I hope it's my error and you can tell me how to 
correct it.

 






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