RE: FM8 HTML output

2008-09-18 Thread Charlie Kyle
Judy,
It sounds like you need some help setting up the numbering of chapters,
headings, pages, and figures in your template. If you are in San Diego,
I think Matt Sullivan is in your area and my understanding is that he is
knowledgeable about FM and the TCS. His site is
http://www.grafixtraining.com/ 

If you have to go it alone then I think the "Adobe FM7.0 Classroom in a
Book" is a good resource. I had a great FM teacher in Boulder CO and we
used that book. 

I'm in a similar boat in that I'm very familiar with RH, but less so
with FM. Are you importing FM8 files directly or importing by reference?
Importing by reference means your FM8 files stay synced with your HTML
output. 

Two days ago I hooked up (imported by reference) an FM8 book to RH7
based on a PDF presentation from Kevin Siegal and a video by RJ Jacquez
(see below). I have most of the stuff working that I need and I am
trying to iron out the style mapping. I may wait to come back to this
project after I've taken Kevin Siegal's virtual training class.

Search for Kevin Siegal's presentation called "Blurring the Production
Lines" here: 
http://www.stc.org/edu/55thConf/index.asp 

Kevin Siegal's site is http://www.iconlogic.com/ I plan to take his
virtual training class called "Integrating Adobe's Technical
Communication Suite" on October 18.

RJ Jacquez, Adobe Product Manager, has a training video on getting
started with TCS. Its located at
https://admin.adobe.acrobat.com/_a295153/p13101233/ I've gone thru this
a couple times and made a how doc from it.

I'm getting grief from my manager because he said that he thought TCS
was supposed to be integrated. He's half joking, but the additional time
its taking me to figure this out from sources outside the user doc is
messing up my schedule. Its too bad the product documentation from Adobe
does not adequately cover the integration of FM and RH.

One last thing. When the sys reqs for TCS say Intel(r) Pentium(r) 4
processor, they mean it. After a series of daily crashes, I'm upgrading
my 1.5 GHz Pentium machine with 2 GB RAM to 2.8ghz p4 Dual Core
processor with 2 GB RAM.

Good luck and stay in touch,

Charlie Kyle 


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 Charlie,
I'm trying to do the same thing.  I've used RH for years, but I'm new to
FM.
I've finally gotten *most* of the unstructured FM functionality down and
I'm moving my doc set into TCS.  I'd be more than willing to share
notes.

I began with 1 shorter chapters (less than 100 pgs.) and was able to
import them by copy to FM8 and tweak the formatting.  I was also able to
successfully add those by reference to RH.(At least I got topic files in
RH.
I haven't fiddled with the TOC and index.)

Last week I attempted a much larger chapter and RH doesn't recognize it
as a valid FM file.  I found a thread in the user forum that said
there's a file size limit.  If I remember correctly, their experience
was that 25MB would work.  I've had 15MB files go "unrecognized".

I went back into FM and learned a lot about document properties and book
settings, and am in the process of trying to work around that size
limit.

I was trying to include numbered chapters, headings, figures, and pages.
I can do it successfully in 1 continuous *.fm file, but I have trouble
if I have to break it into smaller files. I can get the page numbers to
run consecutively, but heading, figure and table numbers restart with
each new fm file!

I think I may be able to further decrease my file size by entering the
images by reference too, but that will take way more time than I have
before my release deadline in early Dec..  (Did I mention I'm a lone
writer and have to start writing the new content now?!  This is a major
leap of faith!)

Does anyone out there have any ideas?

Judy







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RE: FM8 HTML output

2008-09-17 Thread Judy
 Charlie,
I'm trying to do the same thing.  I've used RH for years, but I'm new to FM.
I've finally gotten *most* of the unstructured FM functionality down and I'm
moving my doc set into TCS.  I'd be more than willing to share notes.

I began with 1 shorter chapters (less than 100 pgs.) and was able to import
them by copy to FM8 and tweak the formatting.  I was also able to
successfully add those by reference to RH.(At least I got topic files in RH.
I haven't fiddled with the TOC and index.)

Last week I attempted a much larger chapter and RH doesn't recognize it as a
valid FM file.  I found a thread in the user forum that said there's a file
size limit.  If I remember correctly, their experience was that 25MB would
work.  I've had 15MB files go "unrecognized".

I went back into FM and learned a lot about document properties and book
settings, and am in the process of trying to work around that size limit.

I was trying to include numbered chapters, headings, figures, and pages. I
can do it successfully in 1 continuous *.fm file, but I have trouble if I
have to break it into smaller files. I can get the page numbers to run
consecutively, but heading, figure and table numbers restart with each new
fm file!

I think I may be able to further decrease my file size by entering the
images by reference too, but that will take way more time than I have before
my release deadline in early Dec..  (Did I mention I'm a lone writer and
have to start writing the new content now?!  This is a major leap of faith!)

Does anyone out there have any ideas?

Judy







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   1. Handling source files for translation to several languages
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   2. RE: FM8 HTML output (Diane Gaskill)
   3. Re: FM8 HTML output (Yves Barbion)
   4. Re: Hypertext command (Shlomo Perets)
   5. Translation into japanese and chinese
  (Andersen, Verner Engell VEA)
   6. Is it possible to use a PNG with transparency in FM 7.2?
  (Roger Bell)
   7. RE: Tageditor and Framemaker, any special rules
  (Andersen, Verner Engell VEA)
   8. RE: SOLVED Re: Acrobat displays only B/W (Lea Rush)
   9. Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker
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  10. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (John Posada)
  11. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Vijay)
  12. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Rick Quatro)
  13. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Yves Barbion)
  14. Re: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Scott Prentice)
  15. RE: Renaming 300 linked graphics in Framemaker (Kelly McDaniel)
  16. OT: Place to search for Frame contracts (Jerilynne Knight)
  17. Display date text insets changed in containter file
  (Mollye Barrett)
  18. FM8 crashes (Charlie Kyle)
  19. RE: FM8 crashes (Lea Rush)
  20. RE: Handling source files for translation to several
  languages (Diane Gaskill)
  21. RE: FM8 crashes (Gagne, Bernard (Bolton))
  22. RE: FM8 crashes (Bernard Aschwanden (Publishing Smarter))
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We are going to translate our FM books into several languages. We use
unstructured Framemaker.

Right now our directory structure looks as follows:

Language folder
 - Text insets (corporate) (disclaimer, warranty, eula, terms of use)
 - Graphics (corporate) (logo, IVD, CE)
 - Text insets (product-specific)
- Product manual folder
  - Framemaker files
  - PDF files
  - Graphics (language specific)
  - Graphics (product generic)

Do you have a suggestion of how to handle the translation process? I know
that the translators are to use a tag editor and that the files are to go
into Trados.

I suggest that the Framemaker files are converted to .mif and that the same
folder structure is created in each