Re: RE: Oops! Look ma, no fonts!
Windings of one sort or another have come with Windows for a long time, I think, but none of them are the same as, comparable with, or versions of, Zapf Dingbats, which is a completely different symbol font, work of Hermann Zapf, one of the 20th C's more eminent font designers. I could be wrong, but I believe that Monotype Sorts is the Windows TT knock-off of Zapf Dingbats. I don't think it is installed by default, but with additional fonts during a custom install. David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer Expert (since 1995) Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988) Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified Apple Consultant Network member (since 1990) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
re: Oops! Look ma, no fonts!
David Creamer wrote: I could be wrong, but I believe that Monotype Sorts is the Windows TT knock-off of Zapf Dingbats. I don't think it is installed by default, but with additional fonts during a custom install. Visit http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/default.aspx to find out which fonts are included in different Microsoft products/OS (by font or by product). [ http://www.microsoft.com/typography is the MS Typography home page with interesting font-related information and utilities] Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker FrameMaker/Acrobat training consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants FM-to-PDF Assistants: Navigation, Form, Presentation, Multimedia 3D ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: RE: Oops! Look ma, no fonts!
At 05:58 -0800 21/2/07, David Creamer wrote: I could be wrong, but I believe that Monotype Sorts is the Windows TT knock-off of Zapf Dingbats. I don't think it is installed by default, but with additional fonts during a custom install. Yes, looks like it... http://www.fonts.com/findfonts/detail.htm?pid=205653grab_id=0page_id=49698query=%22monotype%20sorts%22SCOPE=Fonts http://www.fonts.com/findfonts/detail.htm?pid=201219grab_id=0page_id=29683query=%22zapf%20dingbats%22SCOPE=Fonts -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Oops! Look ma, no fonts!
Wingdings 3 apparently comes with Windows XP and is almost exclusively arrows. Steve Cavanaugh Sr. Technical Writer NAT Seattle Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of J. Paul Kent Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 4:29 AM To: Framers Subject: Oops! Look ma, no fonts! I just noticed that my new PC doesn't have the Zapf Dingbats font I've been using to show arrows in my documents. These guides use an arrow in the text to show nested menu selections like Tools-Language-Set Language. I guess I'm not committed for life to the arrows, but they've worked nicely to date, the client seems to like them, and I like them. I can think of any number of potential work-arounds, but I'll bet someone has thought of this before. My first thought was to look at my Microtype Shortcuts document for which key strokes to use to get a slightly different arrow in a font that IS installed, but that revealed two new problems. First, I haven't installed the MicroType (is it a plug-in, I forget) Shortcuts on this new machine. Second (looking at my old machine that does have it installed), it looks like the Shortcuts document assumes a Dingbats font that also isn't installed on this new machine. So, new machine is running XP Media Center Edition, whereas old machine is running XP Pro. Is this where the font issue stems from? This machine is new enough that I can get the Vista upgrade for free, and it has the horsepower to run it well, so I need to take an eventual upgrade into account when I consider the optimum solution. That is, if I'm going to be installing new fonts that work on XP and then installing new fonts again that work on Vista, maybe I should upgrade first (not really ready to do that yet unless I have to). Thanks in advance, J. Paul Kent 206-383-0539 206-508-1144 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/scavanaugh%40nat-sea ttle.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Oops! Look ma, no fonts!
At 07:41 -0800 20/2/07, Steve Cavanaugh wrote: Wingdings 3 apparently comes with Windows XP and is almost exclusively arrows. Windings of one sort or another have come with Windows for a long time, I think, but none of them are the same as, comparable with, or versions of, Zapf Dingbats, which is a completely different symbol font, work of Hermann Zapf, one of the 20th C's more eminent font designers. http://www.linotype.com/645/hermannzapf.html Wingdings was probably designed in a closet at Redmond. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Oops! Look ma, no fonts!
At 04:29 -0800 17/2/07, J. Paul Kent wrote: I just noticed that my new PC doesn't have the Zapf Dingbats font I've been using to show arrows in my documents. Paul... I don't think Windows ever actually *came* with Zapf Dinbats, but you or someone else at some time may have purchased it. If not, it's only $22 from Monotype at http://www.fonts.com -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Oops! Look ma, no fonts!
ITC Zapf Dingbats is NOT a font provided by either Microsoft as part of Windows or by Adobe as part of FrameMaker, Acrobat, or any other current product. You need to license it separately. - Dov -Original Message- From: J. Paul Kent Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 4:29 AM To: Framers Subject: Oops! Look ma, no fonts! I just noticed that my new PC doesn't have the Zapf Dingbats font I've been using to show arrows in my documents. These guides use an arrow in the text to show nested menu selections like Tools-Language-Set Language. I guess I'm not committed for life to the arrows, but they've worked nicely to date, the client seems to like them, and I like them. I can think of any number of potential work-arounds, but I'll bet someone has thought of this before. My first thought was to look at my Microtype Shortcuts document for which key strokes to use to get a slightly different arrow in a font that IS installed, but that revealed two new problems. First, I haven't installed the MicroType (is it a plug-in, I forget) Shortcuts on this new machine. Second (looking at my old machine that does have it installed), it looks like the Shortcuts document assumes a Dingbats font that also isn't installed on this new machine. So, new machine is running XP Media Center Edition, whereas old machine is running XP Pro. Is this where the font issue stems from? This machine is new enough that I can get the Vista upgrade for free, and it has the horsepower to run it well, so I need to take an eventual upgrade into account when I consider the optimum solution. That is, if I'm going to be installing new fonts that work on XP and then installing new fonts again that work on Vista, maybe I should upgrade first (not really ready to do that yet unless I have to). Thanks in advance, J. Paul Kent 206-383-0539 206-508-1144 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
