RE: PDF contradiction?
Thanks everyone for the help and replies. Much appreciated. TVB Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Health Language, Inc. Office: +1 (303) 307-4400 x254 www.healthlanguage.com -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:30 PM To: Tammy Van Boening; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PDF contradiction? Tammy Van Boening wrote: ... According to all the hulla-bulloo about this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat Online Help and this is the problem: 1.) Create the PDF. 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments Enable For Commenting in Adobe Reader and save the PDF. 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub: DISCLAIMER: I'm using Acro 7; undoubtedly, Adobe has made random changes to what it calls things and the details of how they work. That said, I think you're doing two things that are similar, but not the same, and you should be doing one or the other, but not both. It's understandable; the help explains them poorly (at least in 7). If you're going to email the PDF to someone and want their comments back, all you need to do is step 2 above. A Save As dialog prompts you to save a copy of the PDF (you can overwrite the original if you insist). Send that copy, which has the special features enabled to allow commenting in Reader. *Don't do step 3 (the wizard). I've done this many times, and never used the wizard. You need one of the wizards (under Comments Send for Review) _only_ if you want to see multiple people's comments merged into one document. In that case, *don't* select Comments Enable For Commenting first; just go straight to the wizard. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- NOTICE BY HEALTH LANGUAGE, INC. This message, as well as any attached document, contains information from Health Language, Inc. that is confidential. The information is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message and its attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created, without disclosing the contents, and notify the sender immediately. Unless expressly stated otherwise, nothing contained in this message should be construed as a digital or electronic signature, nor is it intended to reflect an intention to make an agreement by electronic means. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF contradiction?
What's this shared review thing? Is it anything more than enabling the reader to add comments? I still recommend using PDF-XChange PDF Viewer for adding comments. I've found it to work on all PDFs including encrypted and PDFs that did not have commenting allowed. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Tammy Van Boening wrote: All, I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2) and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create my PDFs. I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat Online Help and this is the problem: 1.) Create the PDF. 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments Enable For Commenting in Adobe Reader and save the PDF. 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub: When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what Adobe claims can happen. Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review? Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks, TVB NOTICE BY HEALTH LANGUAGE, INC. This message, as well as any attached document, contains information from Health Language, Inc. that is confidential. The information is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message and its attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created, without disclosing the contents, and notify the sender immediately. Unless expressly stated otherwise, nothing contained in this message should be construed as a digital or electronic signature, nor is it intended to reflect an intention to make an agreement by electronic means. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sbw%40actcom.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF contradiction?
Always good to know about a program that totally trashes PDF security, Shmuel. Thanks for sharing... Art On 10/24/07, Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's this shared review thing? Is it anything more than enabling the reader to add comments? I still recommend using PDF-XChange PDF Viewer for adding comments. I've found it to work on all PDFs including encrypted and PDFs that did not have commenting allowed. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Tammy Van Boening wrote: All, I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2) and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create my PDFs. I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat Online Help and this is the problem: 1.) Create the PDF. 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments Enable For Commenting in Adobe Reader and save the PDF. 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub: When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what Adobe claims can happen. Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review? Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks, TVB NOTICE BY HEALTH LANGUAGE, INC. This message, as well as any attached document, contains information from Health Language, Inc. that is confidential. The information is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message and its attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created, without disclosing the contents, and notify the sender immediately. Unless expressly stated otherwise, nothing contained in this message should be construed as a digital or electronic signature, nor is it intended to reflect an intention to make an agreement by electronic means. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sbw%40actcom.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit
Re: PDF contradiction?
It's not PDF security. It's only for comments. All of the option of the Security tab are not affected. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Art Campbell wrote: Always good to know about a program that totally trashes PDF security, Shmuel. Thanks for sharing... Art On 10/24/07, Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's this shared review thing? Is it anything more than enabling the reader to add comments? I still recommend using PDF-XChange PDF Viewer for adding comments. I've found it to work on all PDFs including encrypted and PDFs that did not have commenting allowed. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Tammy Van Boening wrote: All, I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2) and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create my PDFs. I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat Online Help and this is the problem: 1.) Create the PDF. 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments Enable For Commenting in Adobe Reader and save the PDF. 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub: When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what Adobe claims can happen. Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review? Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks, TVB NOTICE BY HEALTH LANGUAGE, INC. This message, as well as any attached document, contains information from Health Language, Inc. that is confidential. The information is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message and its attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created, without disclosing the contents, and notify the sender immediately. Unless expressly stated otherwise, nothing contained in this message should be construed as a digital or electronic signature, nor is it intended to reflect an intention to make an agreement by electronic means. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sbw%40actcom.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF contradiction?
You really think that being able to write comments into a file that doesn't permit commenting isn't a security breach? Good to know.;- ) Art On 10/24/07, Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not PDF security. It's only for comments. All of the option of the Security tab are not affected. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Art Campbell wrote: Always good to know about a program that totally trashes PDF security, Shmuel. Thanks for sharing... Art On 10/24/07, Shmuel Wolfson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's this shared review thing? Is it anything more than enabling the reader to add comments? I still recommend using PDF-XChange PDF Viewer for adding comments. I've found it to work on all PDFs including encrypted and PDFs that did not have commenting allowed. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Tammy Van Boening wrote: All, I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2) and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create my PDFs. I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat Online Help and this is the problem: 1.) Create the PDF. 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments Enable For Commenting in Adobe Reader and save the PDF. 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub: When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what Adobe claims can happen. Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review? Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks, TVB NOTICE BY HEALTH LANGUAGE, INC. This message, as well as any attached document, contains information from Health Language, Inc. that is confidential. The information is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message and its attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created, without disclosing the contents, and notify the sender immediately. Unless expressly stated otherwise, nothing contained in this message should be construed as a digital or electronic signature, nor is it intended to reflect an intention to make an agreement by electronic means. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sbw%40actcom.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply.
RE: PDF contradiction?
Shared review is a feature of Acrobat 8 Professional. -Gillian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:44 AM To: Tammy Van Boening; Framers Subject: Re: PDF contradiction? What's this shared review thing? Is it anything more than enabling the reader to add comments? I still recommend using PDF-XChange PDF Viewer for adding comments. I've found it to work on all PDFs including encrypted and PDFs that did not have commenting allowed. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Tammy Van Boening wrote: All, I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2) and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create my PDFs. I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat Online Help and this is the problem: 1.) Create the PDF. 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments Enable For Commenting in Adobe Reader and save the PDF. 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub: When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what Adobe claims can happen. Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review? Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks, TVB NOTICE BY HEALTH LANGUAGE, INC. This message, as well as any attached document, contains information from Health Language, Inc. that is confidential. The information is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message and its attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created, without disclosing the contents, and notify the sender immediately. Unless expressly stated otherwise, nothing contained in this message should be construed as a digital or electronic signature, nor is it intended to reflect an intention to make an agreement by electronic means. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sbw%40actcom.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gflato%40nanometrics .com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF contradiction?
Is shared review different than commenting? Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Flato, Gillian wrote: Shared review is a feature of Acrobat 8 Professional. -Gillian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:44 AM To: Tammy Van Boening; Framers Subject: Re: PDF contradiction? What's this shared review thing? Is it anything more than enabling the reader to add comments? I still recommend using PDF-XChange PDF Viewer for adding comments. I've found it to work on all PDFs including encrypted and PDFs that did not have commenting allowed. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Tammy Van Boening wrote: All, I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2) and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create my PDFs. I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat Online Help and this is the problem: 1.) Create the PDF. 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments Enable For Commenting in Adobe Reader and save the PDF. 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub: When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what Adobe claims can happen. Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review? Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks, TVB NOTICE BY HEALTH LANGUAGE, INC. This message, as well as any attached document, contains information from Health Language, Inc. that is confidential. The information is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message and its attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created, without disclosing the contents, and notify the sender immediately. Unless expressly stated otherwise, nothing contained in this message should be construed as a digital or electronic signature, nor is it intended to reflect an intention to make an agreement by electronic means. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sbw%40actcom.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gflato%40nanometrics .com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sbw%40actcom.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers
RE: PDF contradiction?
Shared review allows all reviewers to see each other's comments. -Gillian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 10:52 AM To: Framers Subject: Re: PDF contradiction? Is shared review different than commenting? Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Flato, Gillian wrote: Shared review is a feature of Acrobat 8 Professional. -Gillian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 2:44 AM To: Tammy Van Boening; Framers Subject: Re: PDF contradiction? What's this shared review thing? Is it anything more than enabling the reader to add comments? I still recommend using PDF-XChange PDF Viewer for adding comments. I've found it to work on all PDFs including encrypted and PDFs that did not have commenting allowed. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Tammy Van Boening wrote: All, I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2) and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create my PDFs. I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat Online Help and this is the problem: 1.) Create the PDF. 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments Enable For Commenting in Adobe Reader and save the PDF. 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub: When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what Adobe claims can happen. Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review? Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks, TVB NOTICE BY HEALTH LANGUAGE, INC. This message, as well as any attached document, contains information from Health Language, Inc. that is confidential. The information is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message and its attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created, without disclosing the contents, and notify the sender immediately. Unless expressly stated otherwise, nothing contained in this message should be construed as a digital or electronic signature, nor is it intended to reflect an intention to make an agreement by electronic means. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sbw%40actcom.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gflato%40nanometrics .com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages
RE: PDF contradiction?
When I send my PDFs out for review, I take off all security permissions. When I distribute to end users, then I enable security. You have got to allow Commenters to have full access. -Gillian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 1:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PDF contradiction? All, I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2) and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create my PDFs. I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat Online Help and this is the problem: 1.) Create the PDF. 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments Enable For Commenting in Adobe Reader and save the PDF. 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub: When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what Adobe claims can happen. Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review? Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks, TVB NOTICE BY HEALTH LANGUAGE, INC. This message, as well as any attached document, contains information from Health Language, Inc. that is confidential. The information is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message and its attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created, without disclosing the contents, and notify the sender immediately. Unless expressly stated otherwise, nothing contained in this message should be construed as a digital or electronic signature, nor is it intended to reflect an intention to make an agreement by electronic means. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gflato%40nanometrics .com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: PDF contradiction?
Tammy, I think the preferred method is to print to the Adobe PDF printer instance. Then you can open it in Acrobat, enable commenting and save it out again. If you SaveAs from within FM, you use the FM settings and those may be getting in your way. Second, you may want to use the Shared Review Tool that's built into Acrobat 8 instead of doing it manually... I think it's Comments Shared Review. Art On 10/23/07, Tammy Van Boening [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All, I have installed Acrobat 8 Professional on my system (Windows XP, SP2) and have used the save as PDF successfully with Framemaker 7.2 to create my PDFs. I want to be able to send out these PDFs for review to my users who have only Reader 8.0. According to all the hulla-bulloo about this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat Online Help and this is the problem: 1.) Create the PDF. 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments Enable For Commenting in Adobe Reader and save the PDF. 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub: When I click Next in the Wizard after selecting the PDF, I get the following error message: the document that you have chosen cannot be sent for shared review because the security permissions do not allow modifications. Please select another document or change the permissions on this document to allow for modifications. So, I checked the security permissions and yes, the document does not allow for changing but that's because certain features must be restricted to allow for extended features in Adobe Reader. I GIVE - it's an infinite loop here. If I do change the security permissions on the doc, then the doc is not enabled for commenting by my Reader users, but if I follow Adobe's instructions to extend the features to my Reader users, then Acrobat barfs and won't let me set up a shared review - all in direct contradiction of what Adobe claims can happen. Anyone familiar with this apparent contraction and/or knows what to do to enable Reader users to be able to participate in a shared review? Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks, TVB NOTICE BY HEALTH LANGUAGE, INC. This message, as well as any attached document, contains information from Health Language, Inc. that is confidential. The information is intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution or the taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this message or its attachments is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please delete all electronic copies of this message and its attachments, if any, destroy any hard copies you may have created, without disclosing the contents, and notify the sender immediately. Unless expressly stated otherwise, nothing contained in this message should be construed as a digital or electronic signature, nor is it intended to reflect an intention to make an agreement by electronic means. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: PDF contradiction?
Tammy Van Boening wrote: ... According to all the hulla-bulloo about this 8.0 release, I can enable commenting rights in a PDF so that my Adobe Reader users can participate in shared reviews of the PDF. So, I followed the instructions to the T provided in the Adobe Acrobat Online Help and this is the problem: 1.) Create the PDF. 2.) In the open PDF, choose Comments Enable For Commenting in Adobe Reader and save the PDF. 3.) Start the wizard to initiate the shared review. Step 4 in this wizard is to select the PDF that is to be reviewed (natch!), so I select the PDF that I saved in Step 2, but here's the rub: DISCLAIMER: I'm using Acro 7; undoubtedly, Adobe has made random changes to what it calls things and the details of how they work. That said, I think you're doing two things that are similar, but not the same, and you should be doing one or the other, but not both. It's understandable; the help explains them poorly (at least in 7). If you're going to email the PDF to someone and want their comments back, all you need to do is step 2 above. A Save As dialog prompts you to save a copy of the PDF (you can overwrite the original if you insist). Send that copy, which has the special features enabled to allow commenting in Reader. *Don't do step 3 (the wizard). I've done this many times, and never used the wizard. You need one of the wizards (under Comments Send for Review) _only_ if you want to see multiple people's comments merged into one document. In that case, *don't* select Comments Enable For Commenting first; just go straight to the wizard. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.