RE: Table title alignment oddity
Hi, The table title frame spans only the text column (without sidehead area) if the table columns have only the width of the text column. If the table columns are wider than the text column, the table title frame spans the text column plus the sidehead area. Eventually your table columns are too wide. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]On Behalf Of Linda G. Gallagher Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 12:33 AM To: 'Combs, Richard'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity Well, maybe I've found a bug. I assure you the para tag the tables are anchored to is set to In Column, but the frame for the table title goes to the left side of the side head area when I insert a new table. Some existing tables of this same style, anchored to the same para tag, have the title frame aligned with the text, that is, not in the side head area. Other existing tables similarly anchored have the title frame all the way to the side head area. So, when I set the table title style to indent, it works fine in tables I insert and in some existing tables, but other existing tables end up indenting the table title too much, because the title frame is only in the main text area. Reapplying the table style or para styles or anything else does not help get all these tables of the same style to look the same. To add to the fun, two different table styles, one set to 0 Left and the other set to .25 Left, align identically. The title goes all the way through the side head area, but the table starts in the main text area (not in the side head). Both are anchored to the same para tag type. Are we having fun yet??? It's making me a little nuts. =:o ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates Manager, STC Consulting and Independent Contracting SIG http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:18 PM To: Linda G. Gallagher; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity Linda G. Gallagher wrote: The tables are all anchored to paragraphs that are in the main text area, not in the side head area. Are you sure? Really? Double-check this in Paragraph Designer's Pagination tab. Are the anchor pgfs all set to In Column? It's not enough that they _be_ in the column (via an indent setting, for instance) -- are they _defined_ as In Column? I hope this is making sense. The crux of the problem is inconsistent behavior of where tables and table titles align in relation to side head area. What controls this? The anchor pgf is supposed to control this. I've just confirmed this in my current doc. We anchor tables in TableAnchor pgfs, which are set on the Pagination tab to Across All Columns and Side Heads. A left-aligned table anchored in a TableAnchor pgf starts at the text frame edge (in the sidehead area) plus its Left Indent. The Title frame above it starts at the text frame edge (in the sidehead area), too, and the TableTitle pgf in it is indented by its Left Indent amount. If I change the table's anchor pgf from TableAnchor to FigAnchor (which is set to In Column), both the table and its Title frame jump rightward into the text column. If you have two tables anchored in identical In Column anchor pgfs, and one aligns left across the sidehead area and the other doesn't, I think you've found a real bug. Later, Linda also wrote: The table title is set to In Column. Forgot to mention that. That setting actually is irrelevant. The title pgf is in its own text frame (if you work with View Borders on -- and you should, IMHO -- you'll see it). That frame has a single column with no sidehead. You can't change it, either. You can control the placement of the title pgf within the Title frame using its indent settings. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/wreng%40ty coint.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED
RE: Table title alignment oddity - solved
Well, I didn't think was it at first, but it turns out it was! In the template file, the tables overran the main text area ever so slightly. When I made the columns a little narrower, sure enough, the table title box popped back inside the main text area. Thank you, Winfried!! ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates Manager, STC Consulting and Independent Contracting SIG http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Reng, Winfried Dr. Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 1:27 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity Hi, The table title frame spans only the text column (without sidehead area) if the table columns have only the width of the text column. If the table columns are wider than the text column, the table title frame spans the text column plus the sidehead area. Eventually your table columns are too wide. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]On Behalf Of Linda G. Gallagher Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 12:33 AM To: 'Combs, Richard'; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity Well, maybe I've found a bug. I assure you the para tag the tables are anchored to is set to In Column, but the frame for the table title goes to the left side of the side head area when I insert a new table. Some existing tables of this same style, anchored to the same para tag, have the title frame aligned with the text, that is, not in the side head area. Other existing tables similarly anchored have the title frame all the way to the side head area. So, when I set the table title style to indent, it works fine in tables I insert and in some existing tables, but other existing tables end up indenting the table title too much, because the title frame is only in the main text area. Reapplying the table style or para styles or anything else does not help get all these tables of the same style to look the same. To add to the fun, two different table styles, one set to 0 Left and the other set to .25 Left, align identically. The title goes all the way through the side head area, but the table starts in the main text area (not in the side head). Both are anchored to the same para tag type. Are we having fun yet??? It's making me a little nuts. =:o ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates Manager, STC Consulting and Independent Contracting SIG http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:18 PM To: Linda G. Gallagher; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity Linda G. Gallagher wrote: The tables are all anchored to paragraphs that are in the main text area, not in the side head area. Are you sure? Really? Double-check this in Paragraph Designer's Pagination tab. Are the anchor pgfs all set to In Column? It's not enough that they _be_ in the column (via an indent setting, for instance) -- are they _defined_ as In Column? I hope this is making sense. The crux of the problem is inconsistent behavior of where tables and table titles align in relation to side head area. What controls this? The anchor pgf is supposed to control this. I've just confirmed this in my current doc. We anchor tables in TableAnchor pgfs, which are set on the Pagination tab to Across All Columns and Side Heads. A left-aligned table anchored in a TableAnchor pgf starts at the text frame edge (in the sidehead area) plus its Left Indent. The Title frame above it starts at the text frame edge (in the sidehead area), too, and the TableTitle pgf in it is indented by its Left Indent amount. If I change the table's anchor pgf from TableAnchor to FigAnchor (which is set to In Column), both the table and its Title frame jump rightward into the text column. If you have two tables anchored in identical In Column anchor pgfs, and one aligns left across the sidehead area and the other doesn't, I think you've found a real bug. Later, Linda also wrote: The table title is set to In Column. Forgot to mention that. That setting actually is irrelevant. The title pgf is in its own text frame (if you work with View Borders on -- and you should, IMHO -- you'll see it). That frame has
Re: Table title alignment oddity
At 11:13 -0600 18/4/07, Linda G. Gallagher wrote: I'm hoping someone can shed some light on this. My client and I are both seeing this odd and inconsistent behavior and neither of us can explain or fix it. :o Our template has side heads set up and several table styles. Wasn't something like this discussed here quite recently? Linda - have you looked in the archive? There's a thread titled 'Clarification of table title problem' that might be helpful to you. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Table title alignment oddity
Steve, Thanks for the steer. I did just find that thread in the Oct archive, but it doesn't deal with side heads. I *think* what I'm seeing is a little different. ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates Manager, STC Consulting and Independent Contracting SIG http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html -Original Message- From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:19 AM To: Linda G. Gallagher; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Table title alignment oddity At 11:13 -0600 18/4/07, Linda G. Gallagher wrote: I'm hoping someone can shed some light on this. My client and I are both seeing this odd and inconsistent behavior and neither of us can explain or fix it. :o Our template has side heads set up and several table styles. Wasn't something like this discussed here quite recently? Linda - have you looked in the archive? There's a thread titled 'Clarification of table title problem' that might be helpful to you. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Table title alignment oddity
The table title is set to In Column. Forgot to mention that. ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates Manager, STC Consulting and Independent Contracting SIG http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html -Original Message- From: Van Boening, Tammy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:21 AM To: Linda G. Gallagher Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity For the table title, do you have the pagination set to in column or across all columns and sideheads? TVB Tammy L. Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Fiserv Insurance Solutions Property and Casualty Division 303-729-7733 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Keep smiling, at least until you get your own way. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Linda G. Gallagher Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:13 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Table title alignment oddity Framers, I'm hoping someone can shed some light on this. My client and I are both seeing this odd and inconsistent behavior and neither of us can explain or fix it. :o Our template has side heads set up and several table styles. When we insert one style of table, both the table and the table title will go all the way to across the side head area. When we insert another table style, they don't. Both table styles and the table title style are set to 0 First and 0 Left indents (table only has Left, of course). When we indent the table style that goes across by .25 inches, it aligns properly (side head area is just .25 inches), but the table title still goes all the way across the side head area. We don't want these tables or titles to go across the side head area, so I indented the table title style, too, to make it align with the main text. That worked for the most part, but sometimes that results in the title being indented .25 from the main text because the box the title is in starts at the main text margin instead of across the side head area. The tables are all anchored to paragraphs that are in the main text area, not in the side head area. I hope this is making sense. The crux of the problem is inconsistent behavior of where tables and table titles align in relation to side head area. What controls this? Thanks in advance! ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates Manager, STC Consulting and Independent Contracting SIG http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tammy.vanboening%40f iserv.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Table title alignment oddity
As crazy it sounds, do you have a special tag for the table anchor - if so, what is its pagination properties? Tammy L. Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Fiserv Insurance Solutions Property and Casualty Division 303-729-7733 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Keep smiling, at least until you get your own way. -Original Message- From: Linda G. Gallagher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:52 PM To: Van Boening, Tammy; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity The table title is set to In Column. Forgot to mention that. ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates Manager, STC Consulting and Independent Contracting SIG http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html -Original Message- From: Van Boening, Tammy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:21 AM To: Linda G. Gallagher Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity For the table title, do you have the pagination set to in column or across all columns and sideheads? TVB Tammy L. Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Fiserv Insurance Solutions Property and Casualty Division 303-729-7733 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Keep smiling, at least until you get your own way. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Linda G. Gallagher Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:13 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Table title alignment oddity Framers, I'm hoping someone can shed some light on this. My client and I are both seeing this odd and inconsistent behavior and neither of us can explain or fix it. :o Our template has side heads set up and several table styles. When we insert one style of table, both the table and the table title will go all the way to across the side head area. When we insert another table style, they don't. Both table styles and the table title style are set to 0 First and 0 Left indents (table only has Left, of course). When we indent the table style that goes across by .25 inches, it aligns properly (side head area is just .25 inches), but the table title still goes all the way across the side head area. We don't want these tables or titles to go across the side head area, so I indented the table title style, too, to make it align with the main text. That worked for the most part, but sometimes that results in the title being indented .25 from the main text because the box the title is in starts at the main text margin instead of across the side head area. The tables are all anchored to paragraphs that are in the main text area, not in the side head area. I hope this is making sense. The crux of the problem is inconsistent behavior of where tables and table titles align in relation to side head area. What controls this? Thanks in advance! ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates Manager, STC Consulting and Independent Contracting SIG http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tammy.vanboening%40f iserv.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Table title alignment oddity
Linda G. Gallagher wrote: Framers, I'm hoping someone can shed some light on this. My client and I are both seeing this odd and inconsistent behavior and neither of us can explain or fix it. :o Our template has side heads set up and several table styles. When we insert one style of table, both the table and the table title will go all the way to across the side head area. When we insert another table style, they don't. Both table styles and the table title style are set to 0 First and 0 Left indents (table only has Left, of course). When we indent the table style that goes across by .25 inches, it aligns properly (side head area is just .25 inches), but the table title still goes all the way across the side head area. We don't want these tables or titles to go across the side head area, so I indented the table title style, too, to make it align with the main text. That worked for the most part, but sometimes that results in the title being indented .25 from the main text because the box the title is in starts at the main text margin instead of across the side head area. The tables are all anchored to paragraphs that are in the main text area, not in the side head area. I hope this is making sense. The crux of the problem is inconsistent behavior of where tables and table titles align in relation to side head area. What controls this? Have you tried anchoring the tables in their own pgfs, either in column, or across all columns and sideheads and with the .25 indent? (I don't know why your problem is occurring, but one of these might at least work around it. If you use the negative space above/below trick, you don't end up with any unwanted white space.) best, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com It is not enough that I succeed. Others must fail. -- Oscar Wilde ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Table title alignment oddity
Linda G. Gallagher wrote: The tables are all anchored to paragraphs that are in the main text area, not in the side head area. Are you sure? Really? Double-check this in Paragraph Designer's Pagination tab. Are the anchor pgfs all set to In Column? It's not enough that they _be_ in the column (via an indent setting, for instance) -- are they _defined_ as In Column? I hope this is making sense. The crux of the problem is inconsistent behavior of where tables and table titles align in relation to side head area. What controls this? The anchor pgf is supposed to control this. I've just confirmed this in my current doc. We anchor tables in TableAnchor pgfs, which are set on the Pagination tab to Across All Columns and Side Heads. A left-aligned table anchored in a TableAnchor pgf starts at the text frame edge (in the sidehead area) plus its Left Indent. The Title frame above it starts at the text frame edge (in the sidehead area), too, and the TableTitle pgf in it is indented by its Left Indent amount. If I change the table's anchor pgf from TableAnchor to FigAnchor (which is set to In Column), both the table and its Title frame jump rightward into the text column. If you have two tables anchored in identical In Column anchor pgfs, and one aligns left across the sidehead area and the other doesn't, I think you've found a real bug. Later, Linda also wrote: The table title is set to In Column. Forgot to mention that. That setting actually is irrelevant. The title pgf is in its own text frame (if you work with View Borders on -- and you should, IMHO -- you'll see it). That frame has a single column with no sidehead. You can't change it, either. You can control the placement of the title pgf within the Title frame using its indent settings. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Table title alignment oddity
Not crazy. We don't currently have a dedicated anchor tag (lots of legacy content), but the para tag the tables are anchored to, in all instances, are also set to In Column. ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates Manager, STC Consulting and Independent Contracting SIG http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html -Original Message- From: Van Boening, Tammy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 1:07 PM To: Linda G. Gallagher; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity As crazy it sounds, do you have a special tag for the table anchor - if so, what is its pagination properties? Tammy L. Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Fiserv Insurance Solutions Property and Casualty Division 303-729-7733 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Keep smiling, at least until you get your own way. -Original Message- From: Linda G. Gallagher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 12:52 PM To: Van Boening, Tammy; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity The table title is set to In Column. Forgot to mention that. ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates Manager, STC Consulting and Independent Contracting SIG http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html -Original Message- From: Van Boening, Tammy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:21 AM To: Linda G. Gallagher Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity For the table title, do you have the pagination set to in column or across all columns and sideheads? TVB Tammy L. Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Fiserv Insurance Solutions Property and Casualty Division 303-729-7733 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Keep smiling, at least until you get your own way. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Linda G. Gallagher Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:13 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Table title alignment oddity Framers, I'm hoping someone can shed some light on this. My client and I are both seeing this odd and inconsistent behavior and neither of us can explain or fix it. :o Our template has side heads set up and several table styles. When we insert one style of table, both the table and the table title will go all the way to across the side head area. When we insert another table style, they don't. Both table styles and the table title style are set to 0 First and 0 Left indents (table only has Left, of course). When we indent the table style that goes across by .25 inches, it aligns properly (side head area is just .25 inches), but the table title still goes all the way across the side head area. We don't want these tables or titles to go across the side head area, so I indented the table title style, too, to make it align with the main text. That worked for the most part, but sometimes that results in the title being indented .25 from the main text because the box the title is in starts at the main text margin instead of across the side head area. The tables are all anchored to paragraphs that are in the main text area, not in the side head area. I hope this is making sense. The crux of the problem is inconsistent behavior of where tables and table titles align in relation to side head area. What controls this? Thanks in advance! ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates Manager, STC Consulting and Independent Contracting SIG http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tammy.vanboening%40f iserv.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com
RE: Table title alignment oddity
Well, maybe I've found a bug. I assure you the para tag the tables are anchored to is set to In Column, but the frame for the table title goes to the left side of the side head area when I insert a new table. Some existing tables of this same style, anchored to the same para tag, have the title frame aligned with the text, that is, not in the side head area. Other existing tables similarly anchored have the title frame all the way to the side head area. So, when I set the table title style to indent, it works fine in tables I insert and in some existing tables, but other existing tables end up indenting the table title too much, because the title frame is only in the main text area. Reapplying the table style or para styles or anything else does not help get all these tables of the same style to look the same. To add to the fun, two different table styles, one set to 0 Left and the other set to .25 Left, align identically. The title goes all the way through the side head area, but the table starts in the main text area (not in the side head). Both are anchored to the same para tag type. Are we having fun yet??? It's making me a little nuts. =:o ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates Manager, STC Consulting and Independent Contracting SIG http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html -Original Message- From: Combs, Richard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2007 2:18 PM To: Linda G. Gallagher; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Table title alignment oddity Linda G. Gallagher wrote: The tables are all anchored to paragraphs that are in the main text area, not in the side head area. Are you sure? Really? Double-check this in Paragraph Designer's Pagination tab. Are the anchor pgfs all set to In Column? It's not enough that they _be_ in the column (via an indent setting, for instance) -- are they _defined_ as In Column? I hope this is making sense. The crux of the problem is inconsistent behavior of where tables and table titles align in relation to side head area. What controls this? The anchor pgf is supposed to control this. I've just confirmed this in my current doc. We anchor tables in TableAnchor pgfs, which are set on the Pagination tab to Across All Columns and Side Heads. A left-aligned table anchored in a TableAnchor pgf starts at the text frame edge (in the sidehead area) plus its Left Indent. The Title frame above it starts at the text frame edge (in the sidehead area), too, and the TableTitle pgf in it is indented by its Left Indent amount. If I change the table's anchor pgf from TableAnchor to FigAnchor (which is set to In Column), both the table and its Title frame jump rightward into the text column. If you have two tables anchored in identical In Column anchor pgfs, and one aligns left across the sidehead area and the other doesn't, I think you've found a real bug. Later, Linda also wrote: The table title is set to In Column. Forgot to mention that. That setting actually is irrelevant. The title pgf is in its own text frame (if you work with View Borders on -- and you should, IMHO -- you'll see it). That frame has a single column with no sidehead. You can't change it, either. You can control the placement of the title pgf within the Title frame using its indent settings. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
