RE: Special Marker dialog box has disappeared
Alternative #5 is to leave the taskbar (its official name, BTW) unlocked at at its normal bottom of the window position, but to grab its top edge and window-shade it down to its minimum height (just a few pixels--only big enough to allow you to grab the edge again when you want to restore the taskbar) if you have dropped any FrameMaker window with its title bar concealed behind the taskbar. Then when you need the taskbar again, just grab its top edge and window-shade it back to the desired height (1-row, 2-row, whatever). Takes almost no time and minimal effort. -Fred Ridder From: Whites [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Dennis Davideit [EMAIL PROTECTED], framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Special Marker dialog box has disappeared Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:09:23 -0700 Hi Dennis - I've followed this with interest because I am plagued with the same issue (and so are others I work with). It's not a problem with FM, it's a bug/flaw in the Windows desktop - at least in XP. Let's assume you work with the Windows toolbar (or tray, or whatever you call it) at the bottom of the screen and you have it set to Always in front. If you grab a window/dialog/whatever by the strip above the title bar and drag it to the very bottom of the screen, you still have control of it even when the top of the window is behind the toolbar. When you drop it, the window/dialog/whatever is hidden behind the toolbar and is irretrievable except by the alt + space, m trick. This is a bug in the Windows desktop design. Rather than fix it by not allowing you to drag the top of a window completely behind the toolbar, MS offers a couple of options - (1) Autohide tool bar - (extremely annoying, IMHO), (2) keep toolbar in back (better, but then you hide the toolbar with your document rather than the other way around), (3) move the toolbar to one of the sides (not so good since I usually want to preserve as much screen width as possible, or (4) put toolbar at top (I've just recently started doing this). In the last case, you can still move the very top of your document/window/dialog/whatever behind the toolbar, but it's obviously not hidden when you drop it - just not grabbable. Time for alt + space, m. If you have every used a Mac with OS-X, you'll note that the toolbar has a transparency setting, so you can tell if anything is lurking behind the toolbar. Moveover, MacOS will _not_ allow you to drag and drop the top of your document behind the toolbar. As soon as you drop it, the OS-X repositions the top of the doc just above the toolbar. Problem solved. Now if we could just get Adobe to support FM on OS-X. Don't know how this problem is dealt with on Vista - I'll check it out in about 5 years. Will White (writing from home on a Mac) ++ There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Twain ++ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. _ http://liveearth.msn.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Special Marker dialog box has disappeared
On Jul 31, 2007, at 11:55 PM, Fred Ridder wrote: Alternative #5 is to leave the taskbar (its official name, BTW) [Thanks for the correction. I had the feeling that I was not using the proper term.] unlocked at at its normal bottom of the window position, but to grab its top edge and window-shade it down to its minimum height (just a few pixels--only big enough to allow you to grab the edge again when you want to restore the taskbar) if you have dropped any FrameMaker window with its title bar concealed behind the taskbar. Then when you need the taskbar again, just grab its top edge and window-shade it back to the desired height (1-row, 2-row, whatever). Takes almost no time and minimal effort. I might give this a try if I get tired of the taskbar being at the top of the window. However, it involves more use of the mouse - which I try to minimize. I would still welcome some clever person coming up with a force to center option in FM. On the other hand, once one knows of the workarounds, the cruddy implementation of taskbar behavior in XP is no big deal. will white ++ There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Twain ++ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Special Marker dialog box has disappeared
You can drag the Windows taskbar to a vertical position. I always use mine there, to recover vertical space in the window; I also use my Mac's Dock vertically, for the same reason. HTH Regards, Peter Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Special > Marker dialog box has disappeared
On Jul 31, 2007, at 11:55 PM, Fred Ridder wrote: > Alternative #5 is to leave the taskbar (its official name, BTW) [Thanks for the correction. I had the feeling that I was not using the proper term.] > unlocked > at at its normal bottom of the window position, but to grab its top > edge and "window-shade" it down to its minimum height (just a few > pixels--only big enough to allow you to grab the edge again when you > want to restore the taskbar) if you have dropped any FrameMaker > window with its title bar concealed behind the taskbar. Then when > you need the taskbar again, just grab its top edge and window-shade > it back to the desired height (1-row, 2-row, whatever). Takes almost > no time and minimal effort. I might give this a try if I get tired of the taskbar being at the top of the window. However, it involves more use of the mouse - which I try to minimize. I would still welcome some clever person coming up with a "force to center" option in FM. On the other hand, once one knows of the workarounds, the cruddy implementation of taskbar behavior in XP is no big deal. will white ++ There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Twain ++
Special > Marker dialog box has disappeared
You can drag the Windows taskbar to a vertical position. I always use mine there, to recover vertical space in the window; I also use my Mac's Dock vertically, for the same reason. HTH Regards, Peter Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices
Special > Marker dialog box has disappeared
Alternative #5 is to leave the taskbar (its official name, BTW) unlocked at at its normal bottom of the window position, but to grab its top edge and "window-shade" it down to its minimum height (just a few pixels--only big enough to allow you to grab the edge again when you want to restore the taskbar) if you have dropped any FrameMaker window with its title bar concealed behind the taskbar. Then when you need the taskbar again, just grab its top edge and window-shade it back to the desired height (1-row, 2-row, whatever). Takes almost no time and minimal effort. -Fred Ridder >From: Whites >To: Dennis Davideit , framers at lists.frameusers.com >Subject: RE: Special > Marker dialog box has disappeared >Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 21:09:23 -0700 > >Hi Dennis - >I've followed this with interest because I am plagued with the same issue >(and so are others I work with). It's not a problem with FM, it's a >bug/flaw in the Windows desktop - at least in XP. >Let's assume you work with the Windows toolbar (or tray, or whatever you >call it) at the bottom of the screen and you have it set to "Always in >front". >If you grab a window/dialog/whatever by the strip above the title bar and >drag it to the very bottom of the screen, you still have control of it >even when the top of the window is behind the toolbar. When you drop it, >the window/dialog/whatever is hidden behind the toolbar and is >irretrievable except by the alt + space, m trick. This is a bug in the >Windows desktop design. Rather than fix it by not allowing you to drag >the top of a window completely behind the toolbar, MS offers a couple of >options - (1) Autohide tool bar - (extremely annoying, IMHO), (2) keep >toolbar in back (better, but then you hide the toolbar with your document >rather than the other way around), (3) move the toolbar to one of the >sides (not so good since I usually want to preserve as much screen width >as possible, or (4) put toolbar at top (I've just recently started doing >this). In the last case, you can still move the very top of your >document/window/dialog/whatever behind the toolbar, but it's obviously not >hidden when you drop it - just not grabbable. Time for alt + space, m. > >If you have every used a Mac with OS-X, you'll note that the toolbar has a >transparency setting, so you can tell if anything is lurking behind the >toolbar. Moveover, MacOS will _not_ allow you to drag and drop the top of >your document behind the toolbar. As soon as you drop it, the OS-X >repositions the top of the doc just above the toolbar. Problem solved. >Now if we could just get Adobe to support FM on OS-X. > >Don't know how this problem is dealt with on Vista - I'll check it out in >about 5 years. > >Will White >(writing from home on a Mac) > >++ >There is something fascinating about science. >One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture >out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Twain >++ > >___ > > >You are currently subscribed to Framers as DocuDoc at hotmail.com. > >Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to >framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com >or visit >http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/docudoc%40hotmail.com > >Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit >http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. _ http://liveearth.msn.com
Special > Marker dialog box has disappeared
Hi Dennis - I've followed this with interest because I am plagued with the same issue (and so are others I work with). It's not a problem with FM, it's a bug/flaw in the Windows desktop - at least in XP. Let's assume you work with the Windows toolbar (or tray, or whatever you call it) at the bottom of the screen and you have it set to "Always in front". If you grab a window/dialog/whatever by the strip above the title bar and drag it to the very bottom of the screen, you still have control of it even when the top of the window is behind the toolbar. When you drop it, the window/dialog/whatever is hidden behind the toolbar and is irretrievable except by the alt + space, m trick. This is a bug in the Windows desktop design. Rather than fix it by not allowing you to drag the top of a window completely behind the toolbar, MS offers a couple of options - (1) Autohide tool bar - (extremely annoying, IMHO), (2) keep toolbar in back (better, but then you hide the toolbar with your document rather than the other way around), (3) move the toolbar to one of the sides (not so good since I usually want to preserve as much screen width as possible, or (4) put toolbar at top (I've just recently started doing this). In the last case, you can still move the very top of your document/window/dialog/whatever behind the toolbar, but it's obviously not hidden when you drop it - just not grabbable. Time for alt + space, m. If you have every used a Mac with OS-X, you'll note that the toolbar has a transparency setting, so you can tell if anything is lurking behind the toolbar. Moveover, MacOS will _not_ allow you to drag and drop the top of your document behind the toolbar. As soon as you drop it, the OS-X repositions the top of the doc just above the toolbar. Problem solved. Now if we could just get Adobe to support FM on OS-X. Don't know how this problem is dealt with on Vista - I'll check it out in about 5 years. Will White (writing from home on a Mac) ++ There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. - Twain ++
RE: Special Marker dialog box has disappeared
Richard, Thanks for the suggestion. My system must have some other problem, because the change made no difference: the Marker dialog box still does not appear. For what it's worth, here are the values in my DialogLayout section of maker.ini: [DialogLayout] ;--Dialog Window layout -- MakerWin=3, -1, -1, -1, -1, 0, 0, 640, 400 PCatalog=500, 40, 130, 180 CCatalog=500, 220, 130, 180 Tools=600, 20 Equation=0, 20 Spell=0, 20 PFormat=7, 43 CFormat=0, 20 Search=0, 20 Table=7, 63 Ruling=0, 20 Markers=200, 200 Hypertext=0, 20 CondText=0, 20 Numbering=0, 20 Help=0, 20 Thesaurus=0, 20 TemplateBrowser=0, 20 VQuickAccessBar=0, 20 ECatalog=500, 50, 130, 350 dennis --- Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dennis Davideit wrote: A couple week ago, my Marker dialog box suddenly disappeared. That is, when I click Special Marker, the Marker dialog box does not appear. The other dialogs in the Special menu display correctly (Anchored Frame, Cross Reference, etc). You probably inadvertently moved it off-screen. Or maybe changed your display resolution to the same effect. To fix it, open maker.ini in a text editor. In the [DialogLayout] section, there is a line like this: Markers=997, 400 Your numbers are probably different (bigger). They specify the location on screen of the upper left corner of the dialog. I don't recall if it's horizontal, then vertical, or the other way around. Change them to something reasonable, like: Markers=200, 200 Save and close maker.ini, and start (or restart) FM. That should fix it. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Special Marker dialog box has disappeared
Here is another possible solution that doesn't require editing maker.ini. Open the marker dialog. Even though you can't see it, it's probably there. Press Alt+Space. This is a Windows shortcut that gives you keyboard control of windows and dialogs. Press m (for move). Either use the arrow keys to move the dialog or immediately click and drag. Don't move the mouse before clicking. By default, when you press m, the mouse pointer is placed on the title bar of the active window, so you can drag even though you can't see the title bar. You can experiment with some of the dialog boxes that are visible, just to see how the procedure works. Good luck! Ian Mike Wickham wrote: Thanks for the suggestion. My system must have some other problem, because the change made no difference: the Marker dialog box still does not appear. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Special Marker dialog box has disappeared
One caution: if FrameMaker is running when you edit the .INI file your changes will be lost when you exit Frame. FM loads the ini settings into memory on startup and rewrites the file on exit so that things like the last files opened list, customizable zoom percentages, locations of windows, etc., accurately reflect the last choices you made. On Wednesday, July 25, 2007 06:07 PM, Dennis Davideit wrote: | Richard, | | Thanks for the suggestion. My system must have some | other problem, because the change made no difference: | the Marker dialog box still does not appear. | | ... | | dennis - Lester --- Lester C. Smalley Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com Information Consultants, Inc. Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712 Yorklyn, DE 19736 Web: www.infocon.com --- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Special > Marker dialog box has disappeared
Dennis Davideit wrote: > the change made no difference: > the Marker dialog box still does not appear. > Markers=200, 200 What were the numbers before you changed them? What screen resolution are you running? Kenneth Benson Pegasus Type, Inc. www.pegtype.com
Special > Marker dialog box has disappeared
> Thanks for the suggestion. My system must have some > other problem, because the change made no difference: > the Marker dialog box still does not appear. Dennis, Windows has two versions of maker.ini: 1. There's a system-wide version in \Program Files\Adobe\FrameMaker 7.x. 2. There is also a version in \Documents and Settings\\Application Data\Adobe\FrameMaker\7.x. The first file contains default settings for all users. The second file (one for each user) stores defaults for each user, to allow custom settings. If you change settings from the defaults, such as moving a palette, the new setting is stored here, where it won't affect other users. User settings take precedence over system default settings. So you probably just made the Markers= change in the wrong file. For what it's worth, my original maker.ini (file #1) shows "Markers=0, 20" while the version in my user settings (file #2) shows "Markers=85, 177". The latter position is what I see on screen. Mike Wickham
Special > Marker dialog box has disappeared
One caution: if FrameMaker is running when you edit the .INI file your changes will be lost when you exit Frame. FM loads the ini settings into memory on startup and rewrites the file on exit so that things like the last files opened list, customizable zoom percentages, locations of windows, etc., accurately reflect the last choices you made. On Wednesday, July 25, 2007 06:07 PM, Dennis Davideit wrote: | Richard, | | Thanks for the suggestion. My system must have some | other problem, because the change made no difference: | the Marker dialog box still does not appear. | | ... | | dennis - Lester --- Lester C. Smalley Email: lsmalley AT infocon DOT com Information Consultants, Inc. Phone: 302-239-2942 FAX: 302-239-1712 Yorklyn, DE 19736 Web: www.infocon.com ---
Special > Marker dialog box has disappeared
Here is another possible solution that doesn't require editing maker.ini. Open the marker dialog. Even though you can't see it, it's probably there. Press Alt+Space. This is a Windows shortcut that gives you keyboard control of windows and dialogs. Press "m" (for move). Either use the arrow keys to move the dialog or immediately click and drag. Don't move the mouse before clicking. By default, when you press "m", the mouse pointer is placed on the title bar of the active window, so you can drag even though you can't see the title bar. You can experiment with some of the dialog boxes that are visible, just to see how the procedure works. Good luck! Ian Mike Wickham wrote: >> Thanks for the suggestion. My system must have some >> other problem, because the change made no difference: >> the Marker dialog box still does not appear. >
Special Marker dialog box has disappeared
I am new to this list (I work at Symantec). Am looking for assistance with the following problem (on Frame 7.1, Windows XP): A couple week ago, my Marker dialog box suddenly disappeared. That is, when I click Special Marker, the Marker dialog box does not appear. The other dialogs in the Special menu display correctly (Anchored Frame, Cross Reference, etc). I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling FrameMaker, but the problem persists. Would be very thankful of any help or suggestions! -dennis Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545469 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Special Marker dialog box has disappeared
Dennis Davideit wrote: A couple week ago, my Marker dialog box suddenly disappeared. That is, when I click Special Marker, the Marker dialog box does not appear. The other dialogs in the Special menu display correctly (Anchored Frame, Cross Reference, etc). You probably inadvertently moved it off-screen. Or maybe changed your display resolution to the same effect. To fix it, open maker.ini in a text editor. In the [DialogLayout] section, there is a line like this: Markers=997, 400 Your numbers are probably different (bigger). They specify the location on screen of the upper left corner of the dialog. I don't recall if it's horizontal, then vertical, or the other way around. Change them to something reasonable, like: Markers=200, 200 Save and close maker.ini, and start (or restart) FM. That should fix it. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Special > Marker dialog box has disappeared
I am new to this list (I work at Symantec). Am looking for assistance with the following problem (on Frame 7.1, Windows XP): A couple week ago, my "Marker" dialog box suddenly disappeared. That is, when I click Special > Marker, the Marker dialog box does not appear. The other dialogs in the Special menu display correctly (Anchored Frame, Cross Reference, etc). I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling FrameMaker, but the problem persists. Would be very thankful of any help or suggestions! -dennis Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list=396545469
Special > Marker dialog box has disappeared
Dennis Davideit wrote: > A couple week ago, my "Marker" dialog box suddenly > disappeared. That is, when I click Special > Marker, the > Marker dialog box does not appear. > > The other dialogs in the Special menu display correctly > (Anchored Frame, Cross Reference, etc). You probably inadvertently moved it off-screen. Or maybe changed your display resolution to the same effect. To fix it, open maker.ini in a text editor. In the [DialogLayout] section, there is a line like this: Markers=997, 400 Your numbers are probably different (bigger). They specify the location on screen of the upper left corner of the dialog. I don't recall if it's horizontal, then vertical, or the other way around. Change them to something reasonable, like: Markers=200, 200 Save and close maker.ini, and start (or restart) FM. That should fix it. HTH! Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
Special > Marker dialog box has disappeared
D'oh! Momentary lapse of reason: > Markers=997, 400 > > Your numbers are probably different (bigger). They specify > the location on screen of the upper left corner of the > dialog. I don't recall if it's horizontal, then vertical, or > the other way around. It's horizontal first. If it weren't, that 997 would push part of the dialog off the bottom of my 1280x1024 display. :-) Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 --
Special > Marker dialog box has disappeared
Richard, Thanks for the suggestion. My system must have some other problem, because the change made no difference: the Marker dialog box still does not appear. For what it's worth, here are the values in my DialogLayout section of maker.ini: [DialogLayout] ;--Dialog & Window layout -- MakerWin=3, -1, -1, -1, -1, 0, 0, 640, 400 PCatalog=500, 40, 130, 180 CCatalog=500, 220, 130, 180 Tools=600, 20 Equation=0, 20 Spell=0, 20 PFormat=7, 43 CFormat=0, 20 Search=0, 20 Table=7, 63 Ruling=0, 20 Markers=200, 200 Hypertext=0, 20 CondText=0, 20 Numbering=0, 20 Help=0, 20 Thesaurus=0, 20 TemplateBrowser=0, 20 VQuickAccessBar=0, 20 ECatalog=500, 50, 130, 350 dennis --- "Combs, Richard" wrote: > Dennis Davideit wrote: > > > A couple week ago, my "Marker" dialog box suddenly > > > disappeared. That is, when I click Special > > Marker, the > > Marker dialog box does not appear. > > > > The other dialogs in the Special menu display > correctly > > (Anchored Frame, Cross Reference, etc). > > You probably inadvertently moved it off-screen. Or > maybe changed your > display resolution to the same effect. To fix it, > open maker.ini in a > text editor. In the [DialogLayout] section, there is > a line like this: > > Markers=997, 400 > > Your numbers are probably different (bigger). They > specify the location > on screen of the upper left corner of the dialog. I > don't recall if it's > horizontal, then vertical, or the other way around. > Change them to > something reasonable, like: > > Markers=200, 200 > > Save and close maker.ini, and start (or restart) FM. > That should fix it. > > > HTH! > Richard > > > -- > Richard G. Combs > Senior Technical Writer > Polycom, Inc. > richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom > 303-223-5111 > -- > rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom > 303-777-0436 > -- > > > > > Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/
