subject:"Table footnotes"

Re: [Framers] Table footnotes

2018-11-29 Thread Jayaprakash Gnanamurthy

Click on the row which has to be moved to the next page. Right-click >
Table > Row format > Choose from pulldown menu Start Row: *Top of page*
This option can be used to move a particular row to the top of next
page/column/etc., based on the selection.

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> After 5 years of using Word, I get to use FrameMaker again! My colleagues
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> I'm working in unstructured Tech. Comm. Suite 2015, and I have come across
> a couple of problems with table footnotes. I hope someone out there has a
> way around them.
>
> In FM, Table Footnote rolls to the next page:
> I have one instance where "the stars have aligned" and  the table happens
> to end right at the bottom of the page, then the table footnotes appear at
> the top of the next.  I'd really prefer that at least 1 row of the table
> roll to the next page so the footnotes aren't orphaned.
>
> I thought it might have to do with the fact that this table is in a text
> inset, but if I go to the source document where the inset is and shorten
> the text flow to beneath the table, the footnotes roll as orphans there too.
>
> The Table Footnote paragraph style is set to Keep With Previous.
> Changing table body styles to Keep With the Next would cause other, more
> frequent problems.
> Other ideas?
>
> Links to Table Footnotes:
> In FM, I have a table where 3 cells should  reference the same footnote.
> I inserted a footnote in the table at the first instance, then manually
> made a superscript letter coinciding to that footnote in the other 2 cells
> and hyperlinked them to the table footnote.
>
> It works in FM, but when I port over to RoboHelp for the CHM files,
> instead of the manual hyperlinks in those 2 cells, the whole content of the
> footnote appears after the cell body text!  For the moment, I've just
> removed the hyperlinks, but I'm curious why my method isn't working and if
> there's another way.
>
> Judy Bragg
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Re: [Framers] Table footnotes

2018-11-29 Thread Lin Sims

You could try increasing the row height slightly for that table so that a
row or two rolls to the next page. I don't think using the Keep with Next
will do what you're looking for, anyway, since it affects the table rows,
not the footnotes.

Truthfully, I've never been entirely happy with how Frame handles
footnotes, particularly ones for tables. It's one of the few times where I
think Word handles it better, which means it's one of the few things Word
does that I agree with. ;-)

I don't port to any Help formats, so I've no idea why it's pulling the text
of the footnote. Generally speaking, though, if you want to have multiple
references to the same footnote, best practise is to use the
cross-reference function, not manually typing and adding a hyperlink. This
has the added benefit that if your footnote numbering changes, the xref
automatically updates on your next regen of the book file.



On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 8:25 PM Bragg, Judy - Xylem  wrote:

> I'm working in unstructured Tech. Comm. Suite 2015, and I have come across
> a couple of problems with table footnotes. I hope someone out there has a
> way around them.
>
> In FM, Table Footnote rolls to the next page:
> I have one instance where "the stars have aligned" and  the table happens
> to end right at the bottom of the page, then the table footnotes appear at
> the top of the next.  I'd really prefer that at least 1 row of the table
> roll to the next page so the footnotes aren't orphaned.
>
> I thought it might have to do with the fact that this table is in a text
> inset, but if I go to the source document where the inset is and shorten
> the text flow to beneath the table, the footnotes roll as orphans there too.
>
> The Table Footnote paragraph style is set to Keep With Previous.
> Changing table body styles to Keep With the Next would cause other, more
> frequent problems.
> Other ideas?
>
> Links to Table Footnotes:
> In FM, I have a table where 3 cells should  reference the same footnote.
> I inserted a footnote in the table at the first instance, then manually
> made a superscript letter coinciding to that footnote in the other 2 cells
> and hyperlinked them to the table footnote.
>
> It works in FM, but when I port over to RoboHelp for the CHM files,
> instead of the manual hyperlinks in those 2 cells, the whole content of the
> footnote appears after the cell body text!  For the moment, I've just
> removed the hyperlinks, but I'm curious why my method isn't working and if
> there's another way.
>
> Judy Bragg
> Technical Writer/QC
> HYPACK - A Xylem Brand
> 56 Bradley St.
> Middletown, CT 06457
> O: +1.860.635.1500
> judy.br...@xyleminc.com<mailto:judy.br...@xyleminc.com>
> www.hypack.com<http://www.hypack.com/>
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[Framers] Table footnotes

2018-11-28 Thread Bragg, Judy - Xylem

I'm working in unstructured Tech. Comm. Suite 2015, and I have come across a
couple of problems with table footnotes. I hope someone out there has a way
around them.

In FM, Table Footnote rolls to the next page:
I have one instance where "the stars have aligned" and the table happens to
end right at the bottom of the page, then the table footnotes appear at the top
of the next. I'd really prefer that at least 1 row of the table roll to the
next page so the footnotes aren't orphaned.

I thought it might have to do with the fact that this table is in a text inset,
but if I go to the source document where the inset is and shorten the text flow
to beneath the table, the footnotes roll as orphans there too.

The Table Footnote paragraph style is set to Keep With Previous.
Changing table body styles to Keep With the Next would cause other, more
frequent problems.
Other ideas?

Links to Table Footnotes:
In FM, I have a table where 3 cells should reference the same footnote. I
inserted a footnote in the table at the first instance, then manually made a
superscript letter coinciding to that footnote in the other 2 cells and
hyperlinked them to the table footnote.

It works in FM, but when I port over to RoboHelp for the CHM files, instead of
the manual hyperlinks in those 2 cells, the whole content of the footnote
appears after the cell body text! For the moment, I've just removed the
hyperlinks, but I'm curious why my method isn't working and if there's another
way.

Judy Bragg
Technical Writer/QC
HYPACK - A Xylem Brand
56 Bradley St.
Middletown, CT 06457
O: +1.860.635.1500
judy.br...@xyleminc.com<mailto:judy.br...@xyleminc.com>
www.hypack.com<http://www.hypack.com/>
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