Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm
Friday, January 6, 2012, 4:22:20 PM, one wrote: > If "washing soda" and "seventh generation scent-free, dye-free, laundry > detergent" are the same thing, then yes, yes we have it in socal. It's not detergent. It is what it is ;-). It's used to soften water for hand-washing clothes when the tap water's too "hard". You do want the Arm & Hammer brand so you're sure it doesn't have laundry-related additives (fragrances, etc.) that'll muck up the chemistry. Don't get it in your eyes. -- Best regards, Jim Flannery j...@newgrangemedia.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm
If "washing soda" and "seventh generation scent-free, dye-free, laundry detergent" are the same thing, then yes, yes we have it in socal. -Carrie On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 4:18 PM, George Robinson < george.robinson.communicati...@gmail.com> wrote: > All the way from . . . Nevada? > Don't they wash in SoCal? > > George Robinson > > > > On 1/6/2012 7:12 PM, Tom Whiteside wrote: > > When it comes to art, don’t let anything hold you back – have it > imported! > > ** ** > > ** ** > > >but I think washing soda may be hard to find in southern california. > > > > > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing > listFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > -- > > Visit my blog at www.cine-journal.blogspot.com > Follow me on Twitter @GRCommunicati13 > > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm
All the way from . . . Nevada? Don't they wash in SoCal? George Robinson On 1/6/2012 7:12 PM, Tom Whiteside wrote: When it comes to art, don’t let anything hold you back – have it imported! >but I think washing soda may be hard to find in southern california. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Visit my blog at www.cine-journal.blogspot.com Follow me on Twitter @GRCommunicati13 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm
When it comes to art, don't let anything hold you back - have it imported! >but I think washing soda may be hard to find in southern california. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm
killer! On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Jason Halprin wrote: > > >but I think washing soda may be hard to find in southern california. > > Carrie...this is what you're looking for: > http://www.amazon.com/Church-Dwight-03020-Hammer-Washing/dp/B0029XNTEU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325893480&sr=8-1 > > Next time you're at Ralph's, it should be about $3. > > -JH > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm
>but I think washing soda may be hard to find in southern california. Carrie...this is what you're looking for: http://www.amazon.com/Church-Dwight-03020-Hammer-Washing/dp/B0029XNTEU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1325893480&sr=8-1 Next time you're at Ralph's, it should be about $3. -JH ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm
Stan Brakhage :) my direct-on-film hero http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=stan+brakhage%2C+direct+on+film&oq=stan+brakhage%2C+direct+on+film&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=10118l16179l0l16305l29l24l0l14l4l0l290l1756l3.3.4l10l0 I started putting found footage in washing machines with bleach and got great textures -Carrie On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Robbie wrote: > What is "brakhage esque texture"? Mercy. > > Sent from my iPod > > On Jan 6, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Carrie Schreck > wrote: > > > brakhage esque texture > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm
What is "brakhage esque texture"? Mercy. Sent from my iPod On Jan 6, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Carrie Schreck wrote: > brakhage esque texture ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Free Found Footage at the Millennium Local Pickup Get it Quick TAKE TAKE TAKE
Hi All, The Millennium Film Workshop is losing its theater (though not our workshop space). We have tons of old educational films that were given to us by the prelinger achive. We have to be out by th 15th of January. These films should be put to good use. Someone will be at the Millennium after 1200pm to about 900pm or later. You can call the Millennium at 212 673 0090. FREE COME BY AND TAKE SOME LOCAL PICKUP ONLY ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Fwd: (Super)8mm to HD telecine in Vancouver
CINEWORKS ANNOUNCES 8MM TO HD TELECINE SUITE Time to dust off those old reels because Cineworks is proud to announce the official opening of our 8mm to HD telecine suite! Using a dedicated Workprinter HD suite, members will now be able to get their 8mm and Super8 films transferred to 1920x1080 HD for the best prices in town. This sprocketless, frame-by-frame process is not only gentle on your original reels, but provides one of the cleanest and highest quality images available without going to an expensive pro lab. Only want a Standard Def version? No problem! We can deliver SD or full HD on DVD, Blu-Ray, or a hard drive you provide in a Windows-friendly AVI format. Films will be turned around in 3-5 business days. *Rates:* HD transfer - $0.35/ft SD transfer - $0.30/ft Burn to DVD (SD only) - $2 Burn to Blu-Ray disc - $7.50 Load onto user-supplied external Hard Drive - Free Convert AVI file to Quicktime MOV, Apple ProRes 422, or other format - $15 *How to estimate the amount of film you have:* * * 3" reel = 50' of 8 mm / super 8mm film 5" reel = 200' of 8 mm / super 8mm film 7" reel = 400' of 8 mm / super 8mm film Please contact Jon at *equipment(at)cineworks(dot)ca* for inquiries or to book a transfer Jon Ornoy Equipment + Facilities Manager Cineworks Independent Filmmakers Society Vancouver, BC equipment 604.685.2209 office 604.685.3841 cineworksp...@gmail.com equipm...@cineworks.ca **ALL CANCELLATIONS REQUIRE 48 HRS ADVANCE NOTICE* * ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm
Hi Christine, the process I read about was coffee, vit C, AND washing soda, I'm not opposed to using all 3 but I think washing soda may be hard to find in southern california. Basically I want to shoot the hi-con and experiment with degrading it during processing to give it some nice brakhage esque texture; bubbles, scratches, i'd like to figure out a good technique for solarizing, etc. any recommendations? also do you order your 7378 through kodak directly, if so what's your contact. Thanks! -Carrie On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Christine Lucy Latimer < christinelucylati...@gmail.com> wrote: > The suggestion to use sodium carbonate (washing soda) is a good one. It's > MUCH more economical than vitamin C as an activator, blends faster with > coffee and therefore produces cleaner results on your film. > > I've processed a great deal of film (motion and still) with caffeinol (my > most recent hi-con process was using expired, 12 year old 7378 from my > freezer, and it worked beautifully). If you don't object to lengthier > developing times, you can substitute the coffee in your caffeinol mix with > anything containing caffeic acid...such as black/green tea or red wine > (wine is obviously more expensive, but it's a great thing to try at least > once. Just as with coffee, the cheaper the wine, the better the developer.) > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Jason Halprin > To: Experimental Film Discussion List > Cc: > Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 13:46:16 -0800 (PST) > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm? > Carrie, > > You can also get Arm & Hammer Washing Soda at most grocery stores in the > US, usually near the laundry detergent. > > -Jason Halprin > > -- > *From:* Carrie Schreck > *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List > *Sent:* Thursday, January 5, 2012 3:21 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm? > > REALLY? color? that's interesting will try that, do you remember your > timing for the hi-con? also where did you get the washing soda? > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm
The suggestion to use sodium carbonate (washing soda) is a good one. It's MUCH more economical than vitamin C as an activator, blends faster with coffee and therefore produces cleaner results on your film. I've processed a great deal of film (motion and still) with caffeinol (my most recent hi-con process was using expired, 12 year old 7378 from my freezer, and it worked beautifully). If you don't object to lengthier developing times, you can substitute the coffee in your caffeinol mix with anything containing caffeic acid...such as black/green tea or red wine (wine is obviously more expensive, but it's a great thing to try at least once. Just as with coffee, the cheaper the wine, the better the developer.) -- Forwarded message -- From: Jason Halprin To: Experimental Film Discussion List Cc: Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 13:46:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm? Carrie, You can also get Arm & Hammer Washing Soda at most grocery stores in the US, usually near the laundry detergent. -Jason Halprin -- *From:* Carrie Schreck *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List *Sent:* Thursday, January 5, 2012 3:21 PM *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm? REALLY? color? that's interesting will try that, do you remember your timing for the hi-con? also where did you get the washing soda? ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] LED light kit for film shoots?
Perfect for a time-lapse Fantasia of cannibas in the growing room while the cute little mice characters nibble on the growing shrooms in the nearby room. The fun stuff though would be cinematically depicting their hallucinations. On Jan 6, 2012, at 10:24 AM, Tony Conrad wrote: > On a tight budget? Check this out > http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Plant-Grow-Light-Panel-225-WHITE-LED- > Good-Indoor-Plant-/280802082980? > pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item41611bc0a4 > > -t0ny > > > On Fri 01/06/12 10:04 AM , Steven Gladstone > ste...@gladstonefilms.com sent: >> I have a light panels 1 by 1. It is the older style, Daylight >> balanced. >> >> There are several different kinds. Light panels also makes a version >> with the LEDs angled, this version is meant for studio lighting to >> get >> the lights right up against the ceiling and have the light not come >> straight down. >> >> You can also get flood and spot versions. >> >> The advantage of the 1 color lite panel, is that it can run off 12 >> volts, so an old battery pack, or even a 12 volt power drill >> battery if >> you have an adapter. >> >> Rosco makes a slightly different product - the light pad. It is very >> nice, although I find it about not bright enough by about a stop. >> >> Note the light pad always appears a little green to my eye, and the >> light Panel a touch magenta. >> >> You might also look at Smith Victor. They make a very nice Floro unit >> (2, 4 or 6 bulb configuration) Although not battery powered. I use >> the 4 >> bulb unit, it pulls 220 watts, and is a bit punchy, but that isn't >> necessarily a bad thing. Oh it has a remote dimer - flicker free >> down to >> it's low light level 40% if I recall. Things is overbuilt and rugged, >> and seems to be the best of the low end floro units. >> >> >> -- >> Steven Gladstone >> New York Based Cinematographer >> Gladstone films >> Blog - > http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/http:// > www.blakehousemovie.comhttp://www.gladstonefilms.com917-886-5858 >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/ > listinfo/frameworks >> >> >> > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] LED light kit for film shoots?
On a tight budget? Check this out http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Plant-Grow-Light-Panel-225-WHITE-LED-Good-Indoor-Plant-/280802082980?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item41611bc0a4 -t0ny On Fri 01/06/12 10:04 AM , Steven Gladstone ste...@gladstonefilms.com sent: > I have a light panels 1 by 1. It is the older style, Daylight balanced. > > There are several different kinds. Light panels also makes a version > with the LEDs angled, this version is meant for studio lighting to get > the lights right up against the ceiling and have the light not come > straight down. > > You can also get flood and spot versions. > > The advantage of the 1 color lite panel, is that it can run off 12 > volts, so an old battery pack, or even a 12 volt power drill battery if > you have an adapter. > > Rosco makes a slightly different product - the light pad. It is very > nice, although I find it about not bright enough by about a stop. > > Note the light pad always appears a little green to my eye, and the > light Panel a touch magenta. > > You might also look at Smith Victor. They make a very nice Floro unit > (2, 4 or 6 bulb configuration) Although not battery powered. I use the 4 > bulb unit, it pulls 220 watts, and is a bit punchy, but that isn't > necessarily a bad thing. Oh it has a remote dimer - flicker free down to > it's low light level 40% if I recall. Things is overbuilt and rugged, > and seems to be the best of the low end floro units. > > > -- > Steven Gladstone > New York Based Cinematographer > Gladstone films > Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/http://www.blakehousemovie.comhttp://www.gladstonefilms.com917-886-5858 > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] LED light kit for film shoots?
I have a light panels 1 by 1. It is the older style, Daylight balanced. There are several different kinds. Light panels also makes a version with the LEDs angled, this version is meant for studio lighting to get the lights right up against the ceiling and have the light not come straight down. You can also get flood and spot versions. The advantage of the 1 color lite panel, is that it can run off 12 volts, so an old battery pack, or even a 12 volt power drill battery if you have an adapter. Rosco makes a slightly different product - the light pad. It is very nice, although I find it about not bright enough by about a stop. Note the light pad always appears a little green to my eye, and the light Panel a touch magenta. You might also look at Smith Victor. They make a very nice Floro unit (2, 4 or 6 bulb configuration) Although not battery powered. I use the 4 bulb unit, it pulls 220 watts, and is a bit punchy, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. Oh it has a remote dimer - flicker free down to it's low light level 40% if I recall. Things is overbuilt and rugged, and seems to be the best of the low end floro units. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] LED light kit for film shoots?
Hi, Guys I will use them at least twice a month on a shoot for either film or video (depending on what I'm doing). Lately I've been shooting a lot of studio music videos in dark, dingy cramped rooms. It gets a little tricky with hot lights dotted about. With all the musical equipment it becomes kind of a wire maze as well. I had one studio owner get quite angry with me for running the work lights indoors as he said they were a fire hazard. I had to turn them off and it completely ruined my shoot. I also do quite a bit of external work (last week I did a car scene which required a lot of extension cables to the house). I'm covering a film festival in march and there will be interview work there. So I'm looking for an ideal portable light thats safe, robust, flexible light that can run off a battery and I suppose doesn't look too DIY to provoke the concerns of a property owner. I'm basically looking for a well rounded lighting kit that can be used for a number of different applications. Renting them isn't so much of an option here in the UK. LED video panels don't seem to be around these parts yet and where I live (in the midlands) isn't really a video/film makers hotspot. I don't think there are any places to rent cameras around here let alone lighting kits. I wish there was and it's a shame there isn't. Brilliant idea for the post production colour correction. I cannot believe I never though about that! Still though it would be nice to have the original film at the correct temp incase I ever want to show the actual film and not a digitized version. And Scott! Thanks for the info and links, quite impressive results! It's a shame these lights are so pricy though. Kind RegardsKev Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 10:02:48 -0500 From: computers.inter...@gmail.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] LED light kit for film shoots? I have one of those Litepanel 1x1 knockoffs, but it's a different brand:http://www.socanland.com/Product.aspx?id=56 Mine is bi-color, so you can dial smoothly from tungsten to daylight balanced light. I runs continuously on a battery for several hours and it's surprisingly bright. However, it does have a green tinge that shows itself more in scenes when it's used as a primary light. Usually I don't notice the color shift as long as it's being used as an accent or backlight, and I'm sure you could fix it with a 1/4 minus green gel on the light (like they have in that Ebay photo). Below are some frames from raw video footage. The camera's white balance was set to daylight and I was using a 2x1 ft Socanland Litepanel. So twice as bright as the 1x1. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4257037/standard1.pnghttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/4257037/standard2.png (litepanel as a fill light) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4257037/standard3.png (no litepanel) Hope that helps! wrote: Hi frameworks, I have been greatly utilizing my makeshift DIY lighting kit over the last 2-3 months. It's been great for video work because I can just white balance and then I'm all set to go! I would like to thank those who gave me advise on the DIY kit again! It really has proven useful! However I've been asked to use film (not video) indoors and my DIY light kit isn't at the correct colour temperature. I will mostly be working with 100D and Tri-x film and was wondering if these lights would do the job: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pro-900-LED-Dimmer-5500-3200-Video-Photo-Lighting-Panel-/120837978333?_trksid=p4340.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DDLSL%252BSIC.NPJS%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BUA%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D120834418998%252B120834418998%26po%3D%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5396350441703662186#ht_5597wt_1202 I'm looking for a long term investment and LED lights seem to be a good bet as they are cool, light, portable and last a long, long time. I kindly ask you frameworks folks to cast your critical eye over the lights and let me know what you think. It's a lot of money to spend on a kit so I want to be sure they are up to the job! Kind Regards and as always thanks in advance for the helpful info! Always appreciated! ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Miranda July Mailing Address
Anybody have a mailing address for Miranda July? If so, please contact me off list. Thanks, Ken www.crookedbeautythefilm.com (Academic)www.crookedbeauty.com (Public)www.kenpaulrosenthal.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks