[Frameworks] experimential film in the art world
Frameworks readers might be interested in this article in a new journal from Intellect books: It's free as an electronic file; the single copy price is US $36.00 http://www.intellectbooks.co.uk/journals/view-Journal,id=207/view,page=0?utm_source=MIRAJutm_campaign=MIRAJutm_medium=email Brakhage’s sour grapes, or notes on experimental cinema in the art world Erika Balsom Carleton University abstract This article examines the place of experimental cinema within the contemporary muse- um in order to challenge the commonly held assumption that it is somehow opposed to, or at least outside, the art world. Despite possessing a degree of material truth, the perceived separation between experimental cinema and the art world has led to an unfortunate lack of interrogation into the alliances and antagonisms that exist between them, partic- ularly as they have shifted over time. This article insists on the historicity of such relation- ships and traces how they have changed from the 1970s to a contemporary moment that sees experimental cinema in a closer relationship to the art world than ever before. The integration of experimental film into the museum is a key feature of the preoccupation with all things cinematic that has marked the art of the past two decades, prompting new questions as to the place of experimental film amongst the mediums of art practice. This article assesses not the distance so often thought to exist, but rather the proximity between experimental cinema and the art world in our moment. Chuck Kleinhans inline: page1image13984.png___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] First person narrative
Colleagues, Can anyone think of narrative (or storytelling) films that use the first-person, present tense (subjective) mode of address, other than in interior monologues? It must be done through speech, so “direct cinema” (a form of storytelling) doesn’t count. Examples, if there are any, can be from any tradition, commercial to experimental. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] First person narrative
On 2012-02-23, at 11:01 AM, Gene Youngblood wrote: Colleagues, Can anyone think of narrative (or storytelling) films that use the first-person, present tense (subjective) mode of address, other than in interior monologues? It must be done through speech, so “direct cinema” (a form of storytelling) doesn’t count. Examples, if there are any, can be from any tradition, commercial to experimental. A Clockwork Orange Taxi Driver Full Metal Jacket Ferris Bueller's Day Off (on-camera) Cheers, Jean-Louis___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Other gear
Sorry to bug you again, but I found a small box with Projector Belts, a few rubber, but mostly the spring metal kind. A couple of smallish glass transistors with 7 pins, a small package of Baia 8mm splicing tapes, and even a few Recotron 400 needles. Figure someone on these two lists could use this, and I'd like to see it go to a good home. Free, please come get. I'm in Brooklyn, N.Y. Best. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] eiki xenon sound question
Hey folk, I was haphazardly trained on an Eiki ex 6120 (being only experienced with smaller projectors). The sound on it was recently fixed, and it's probably the first time it's actually being used for optical in many a moon. However, it has a number of issues, most notably a warble, and I'm trying to narrow the exact issue. (And I can't seem to find a manual online.) One thing I noticed is that the optical sound roller seems to roll outwards as the film progresses; I uploaded images with the roller in and out right here Out: http://imgur.com/hZPhz In: http://imgur.com/KVMmR I presume this is the main issue, but let me presume ignorance here and ask you folk. Is the fact that it moves normal? -- ekrem serdar austin, tx ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] First person narrative (Shira Segal)
Georg by Stanton Kaye Mark T From: jaime cleeland ethnom...@yahoo.co.uk To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [Frameworks] First person narrative (Shira Segal) The use of the camera i.e puts forth the camera as a primary means of expression for artists (S.Segal) I was recently asking Jeffrey Paull (is he still on this listserv ?) about ... what I call 'camera-dicking' weilding the camera as a phallus... can anyone give me any pointers for reading ... as far as film go I was thinking of something like Michael Powers 'Peeping Tom'. From: Shira Segal sbse...@indiana.edu To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Thursday, 23 February 2012, 18:40 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] First person narrative (Shira Segal) Dear Gene and Frameworks, Last semester I designed a First Person Cinema course in the Dept. of Communication and Culture at Indiana University that you might find helpful (syllabus attached as PDF). I am pleased as punch that my students continue to post on our corresponding class blog: http://firstpersoninternet.tumblr.com/ I am looking forward to hearing about further examples of first person cinema! best, Shira Segal -- PhD Film and Media Studies Dept. of Communication and Culture Indiana University Visiting Lecturer Dept. of Radio, Television and Film Northwestern University www.shirasegal.com Colleagues, Can anyone think of narrative (or storytelling) films that use the first-person, present tense (subjective) mode of address, other than in interior monologues? It must be done through speech, so ?direct cinema? (a form of storytelling) doesn?t count. Examples, if there are any, can be from any tradition, commercial to experimental. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] First person narrative
I'm guessing from the OP that only Ferris Bueller counts as what Gene is asking for, the others being examples of interior monologues. Another question, Gene, is whether you are seeking examples of this that occur as exceptions within more conventional narrative address, or only instances that dominate the narrative, or only examples where the whole story is told in this form? There would really be 4 fundamental categories of character speech here (as well as examples that blur the distinctions). It might help, Gene, if you could be more specific about your inquiry along these lines. * interior diegetic: What we hear via voiceover is what we imagine the characters are thinking, they are talking to themselves inside the world of the story. (Example: Taxi Driver) Again, I'm assuming that this is what you DON'T want. * interior non-diegetic: We only hear the characters via voice-over, but they are talking to US, breaking the 'fourth-wall' (Example: Sunset Boulevard, The Opposite of Sex) If you think I'm just plucky and scrappy and all I need is love, you're in over your heads. I don't have a heart of gold and I *don't* grow one later, OK? But relax. There's other people a lot nicer coming up - we call them losers. * exterior diegetic We see and hear the characters speak at the camera directly, but the camera is part of the diegesis. Examples would include 'cinema verite' documentary (which differs from direct cinema in being interuptive rather than merely observational), diary films (Sherman's March, Pincus). Double Indemnity. All the 'found-footage' fictions like Blair Witch Project or where parts of the narratives are told via 'news' footage (District 9). * exterior non-diegetic We see and hear the characters speak at US directly, breaking the 4th wall, and other characters in the diegesis are not aware of these asides. (Examples: Ferris Bueller, the TV show 'Moonlighting'.) An example that blurs the last two somewhat is the TV show 'Once and Again' Wikipedia: One of the show's unique aspects was the interview sequences filmed in black and white and interspersed throughout each episode, where the characters would reveal their innermost thoughts and memories to the camera.(http://tinyurl.com/6pbmfve) These 'interviews' had no specified provenance within the diegesis. (There was no frame that a doc was being made about these people.) It was more like an omniscient narrator had the power to isolate them from their location in narrative time and space and solicit their thoughts. But the characters did not address their comments to an external AUDIENCE or acknowledge their part in a story. They spoke as if they were addressing some sort of sympathetic other who might exist in the world of the story, though not involved in the events of the story. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] eiki xenon sound question
Your warble or wow and flutter is usually the result of too much slack around the sound drum, which is usually the result of an issue before or after the drum. If your sound drum is moving outward during projection, I'd say that's the culprit. Alain On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Ekrem Serdar ekremser...@gmail.comwrote: Hey folk, I was haphazardly trained on an Eiki ex 6120 (being only experienced with smaller projectors). The sound on it was recently fixed, and it's probably the first time it's actually being used for optical in many a moon. However, it has a number of issues, most notably a warble, and I'm trying to narrow the exact issue. (And I can't seem to find a manual online.) One thing I noticed is that the optical sound roller seems to roll outwards as the film progresses; I uploaded images with the roller in and out right here Out: http://imgur.com/hZPhz In: http://imgur.com/KVMmR I presume this is the main issue, but let me presume ignorance here and ask you folk. Is the fact that it moves normal? -- ekrem serdar austin, tx ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- 40 FRAMES Alain LeTourneau Pam Minty 40 FRAMES 5232 North Williams Avenue Portland, Oregon 97217 USA +1 503 231 6548 www.40frames.org www.16mmdirectory.org www.emptyquarterfilm.org ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] experimential film in the art world
Thursday, February 23, 2012, 7:39:39 AM, one wrote: Frameworks readers might be interested in this article in a new journal from Intellect books: It's free as an electronic file; the single copy price is US $36.00 Strikingly relevant to one point in a recent discussion, isn't it? [saved for weekend reading] Thanks, Chuck. -- \ Jim Flannery j...@newgrangemedia.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] 35mm projector/looper rental
Hi Frameworks, I'm urgently seeking vendors that can rent 35mm projectors with looper systems for several months. Preferred brands are Veronese, Cinemeccanica, Kinoton, and Dresden. Preferably based in the U.S. but international leads are also welcome. Thanks in advance for your help, Kelly --- Kelly Shindler Assistant Curator Contemporary Art Museum St. Louis 3750 Washington Boulevard St. Louis, MO 63108 314 535 0770 x208 / kshind...@camstl.org *Exhibitions on view:* *Christodoulos Panayiotou: One Thousand and One Days Figure Studies: Recent Representational Works on Paper* Front Room — *Jesse McLean: REMOTE* (through March 18) ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] 35mm projector/looper rental
Not in the US, but near Montreal... Robert Film Services. I believe they did the 35mm loopers for a Rodney Graham show in Van BC a few years back. http://www.16mmdirectory.org/search?q=Robert+film+Services http://www.robertfilm.com/english.html Alain On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 3:09 PM, Kelly Shindler kmshind...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Frameworks, I'm urgently seeking vendors that can rent 35mm projectors with looper systems for several months. Preferred brands are Veronese, Cinemeccanica, Kinoton, and Dresden. Preferably based in the U.S. but international leads are also welcome. Thanks in advance for your help, Kelly --- Kelly Shindler Assistant Curator Contemporary Art Museum St. Louis 3750 Washington Boulevard St. Louis, MO 63108 314 535 0770 x208 / kshind...@camstl.org *Exhibitions on view:* *Christodoulos Panayiotou: One Thousand and One Days Figure Studies: Recent Representational Works on Paper* Front Room — *Jesse McLean: REMOTE* (through March 18) ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- 40 FRAMES Alain LeTourneau Pam Minty 40 FRAMES 5232 North Williams Avenue Portland, Oregon 97217 USA +1 503 231 6548 www.40frames.org www.16mmdirectory.org www.emptyquarterfilm.org ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] eiki xenon sound question
The sound drum should not move laterally at all. If it's moving in and out that much it's probably not a bent spindle or worn bushings. More likely when it was fixed someone left out a spacer or the compression spring that keeps it all tight (curved spring steel piece between the flywheel and bolt on the other end of the sound drum spindle -- or maybe they put it on backwards?). You might be able to find a manual at film-tech.com. I'm just working from memory, but can take a look tomorrow and confirm how the sound drum assembly should go together. Cheers, Todd Eacrett Victoria BC Canada Hey folk, I was haphazardly trained on an Eiki ex 6120 (being only experienced with smaller projectors). The sound on it was recently fixed, and it's probably the first time it's actually being used for optical in many a moon. However, it has a number of issues, most notably a warble, and I'm trying to narrow the exact issue. (And I can't seem to find a manual online.) One thing I noticed is that the optical sound roller seems to roll outwards as the film progresses; I uploaded images with the roller in and out right here Out: http://imgur.com/hZPhz In: http://imgur.com/KVMmR I presume this is the main issue, but let me presume ignorance here and ask you folk. Is the fact that it moves normal? -- ekrem serdar austin, tx ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
