Re: [Frameworks] artist portraits

2014-02-08 Thread Albert Alcoz
I don't know if these two film projects have already been mentioned.

Galaxie (1966) Gregory Markopoulos

Screen Test (1964-66) by Andy Warhol



El Viernes 7 de febrero de 2014 22:31, Adam Hyman  
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Re: [Frameworks] artist portraits
How about Kate Lain, who made the original question?



On 2/7/14 12:06 PM, "Robert Haller"  wrote:


Dear Nicky,
>
>I urge you to contact Pip Chodorov who is about to publish a catalog of some 
>40+ portraits that I made.  It is, I am told, at the printer. -- Robert Haller
>
>From:  
>Reply-To:  Experimental Film Discussion List 
>Date:  Fri, 07 Feb 2014 14:51:40 -0500
>To:  
>Subject:  Re: [Frameworks] artist portraits
>
>If Arnulf Rainer, then by the same logic Kurt Kren: 11/65: Bild Helga Philipp,
>
>Nicky.
> 
> 
> 
>-Original Message-
>From: Gawthrop, Rob 
>To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
>Sent: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 14:58
>Subject: Re: [Frameworks] artist portraits
>
>Arnulf Rainer by Peter Kubelka
>(Nostalgia) by Hollis Frampton  includes: James Rosenquist, Carl Andre,
>Frank Stella, Larry Poons, Michael Snow etc.
>
>Rob
>
>
>On 05/02/2014 01:16, "kate lain"  wrote:
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>> Hi, frameworkers.  I'm looking for examples of portraits of artists and/or
>> their processes or their works -- sculptors, musicians, poets, other
>> filmmakers, etc.  Really interested in hearing about non-standard,
>> non-straight-doc, artistic/artist-made films and videos about other
>> artists.  Particularly keen on short works.  Bonus points for ones
>> available in some form online.  Thanks in advance for any suggestions you
>> might have!
>>
>> All the best,
>> Kate
>
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[Frameworks] Urban Research 2014 at Directors Lounge X

2014-02-08 Thread Klaus W. Eisenlohr

Urban Research 2014
a part of the
THE 10TH BERLIN INTERNATIONAL DIRECTORS LOUNGE [DLX] 6-16 Feb 2014

Daily programs from 18:00 until late

Naherholung Sternchen
Berolinastraße 7
10178 Berlin / Mitte
located directly behind Cinema International und 
Rathaus Mitte, off U-Bahn Schillingstr.



Urban Research is a special film program during 
the Berlin International Directors Lounge with 
three screenings and a loop program during the 
festival. The program is concerned with urban 
themes curated by Klaus W. Eisenlohr.


For years the urban landscape has been under 
rapid change. Due to the increased economic 
pressure and shift towards mono-functional uses 
of the city, public space more and more vanishes. 
The newly awakened interest in old city centers, 
which is a rather positive development, has also 
created new demands in conjunction with the 
deregulations of national and municipal city 
tasks: the city has mainly become an object for 
real estate investment.


On the other hand, new waves for urban movements 
towards a democratic renewal have appeared. A 
redetermination of public place may have come 
across, a new protest culture against the 
complete commercialization of the city has spread 
in places. Be it called neoliberal, new labor, 
social democratic, political-islam or 
post-Maoism, you name I. The radical loss of 
democratic political influences concerning urban 
development seems to have found a counter force 
in a rediscovery of the political space. The 
above sometimes extreme changes in the urban are 
also being reflected in creative art and film, or 
may even find their unique expression in the arts.


Urban Research I
The Future - The City
Sunday, 9 February 19:00 at Space A
http://berlinlounge.tumblr.com/tagged/9th%20Feb%202014

This juxtaposition of experimental shorts discusses futuristic
aspects of urban life. "The future ain't what it used to be" as a
much quoted Yogiism says. Rather than elaborating on science fiction
tales, the pictures combine and merge the present, past and future in
different surprising ways. Life in our times may come with more
challenges than just a space oddity.
Program:
Joe Merrell US Crisis Apparition 06:52 2013
Lorenz Fidel Huchthausen DE Alter Junge 04:28 2013
Pedro Miguel Santos PT Zigurate 05:52 2013
Monika Rechsteiner CH Real Estate II 08:30 2013
Fabian Heitzhausen DE Let's Play Modernism 04:26 2013
Matthew  Pell UK Escence 01:31 2013
Scott Fitzpatrick CD Places with Meaning 03:00 2012
Henry Gwiazda US choice 09:16 2012
Rhayne Vermette CA Full of Fire 02:15 2013 VP
Joas Sebastian Nebe DE Rush Hour 03:00 2013
LJ Frezza US Golden Eye 06:04 2013 GP
Elizabeth Ross MX Insomnio 04:17 2013
Christiane Thalmann UK Conversation on the Underground 05:29 2005
Noyman Gili IL Sounds of Discontent 02:49 2012
Sharon Horodi/ Cheb Kammerer DE Simply a Love Song 05:00 2006

Urban Research II
Memories of Non-Spaces
Tuesday, 11 February 18:00 at Space A
http://berlinlounge.tumblr.com/tagged/11th%20Feb%202014

Even with a culture of news channels, soaps, talk shows, personal
blogs, twitter and vimeo, we only hardly understand the complexities
of average life, and the implications of every day history. This
program between experimental and documentary shorts brings together
films dealing with micro-history. It is not just the American sprawl
that seems to be opaque to history-telling. The French provincial
town already seems to be as alien, when seen from a political
perspective.
Program
Jonathan Rescigno FR Destination Lune 25:00 2010
Jeymer Gamboa AR Reencuentro 02:00 2013
Benallal Mehdi FR Bois d'Arcy 24:00 2013 GP
Gabrielle Le Bayon FR Tender Pastures 06:00 2013
Anna Okrasko PL Lot's Wife 05:13 2013 WP
Txema Novelo MX Culpable 05:27 2012
Erika Matsunami JN/DE existence of risk - 1964  04:30 2013
Marina Chernikova NL Urban Surfing / Moscow2 01:30 2012 GP
Silvia Dal Dosso IT The 1 Up Fever 13:19 2013

Urban Research III
Subverting Leviathan
Friday, 14 February 20:00 at Space B
http://berlinlounge.tumblr.com/tagged/14th%20Feb%202014

The new democratic movements also seem to come with a reemergence of
public space in the sense of life in the street. Even if some
governments use all their powers to  suppress changes, urban
movements seem to give public space a new meaning.  With a focal
point on the largest city of Turkey, the program brings together
different short films discussing urban changes concerning Istanbul,
Damascus, Tel Aviv, Illichevsk (Ukraine), Belfast and Germany.
Program:
Nisrine  Boukhari SY  A letter between two cities / Damascus - Vienna
06:35  2013
Sharon Horodi/ Cheb Kammerer DE Black Stains 10:00 2007
Maria Gonchar UA Creative Cities of Ukraine 11:23 2013
Sirin Bahar Demirel TR Living with Leviathan 11:00 2013
Inconnu Artiz/ Erciyes Kerem TR The City and The Memory 32:41 2013
Sylvia Winkler/ Stephan Köperl DE Alexandra Open 02:00 2009
Gertrud Schulte Westenberg/ Matthias Coers DE Mietrebellen -
Widerstand gegen den Ausverkauf der Stadt excerpt: 09

Re: [Frameworks] artist portraits (Kelsey Velez)

2014-02-08 Thread Kelsey Velez
A longer piece.. Barbara Hammer's /Resisting Paradise/ about Henri Matisse 
during WWII (2003).

KV

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Re: [Frameworks] artist portraits

2014-02-08 Thread Andy Ditzler
Haven't seen it mentioned so far, but an oft-referenced work in this genre
is Hans Namuth's film on Jackson Pollock:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cgBvpjwOGo

Andy Ditzler



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> their processes or their works -- sculptors, musicians, poets, other
> filmmakers, etc.  Really interested in hearing about non-standard,
> non-straight-doc, artistic/artist-made films and videos about other
> artists.  Particularly keen on short works.  Bonus points for ones
> available in some form online.  Thanks in advance for any suggestions you
> might have!
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Re: [Frameworks] artist portraits

2014-02-08 Thread David Baker

Mental telepathy Andy.
I was just thinking of that seminal portrait with the Morton Feldman  
soundtrack.


Others that have been meaningful to me:

Bruce Conner's THE WHITE ROSE
(in which Jay DeFeo makes a painting so big and consequential that
  an exterior wall has to be knocked down in order
  to get its blazing glory out into the world.)


Paola Igliori - American Magus (2002)

EDWARD JAMES:BUILDER OF DREAMS by Avery Danziger

The two portraits of the maddest most sublime bricoleur of all,
Clarence Schmidt,

CLARENCE by Jud Yalkut

MY MIRRORED HOPE by Beryl Sokoloff (1963)


John Cage  Mushroom Hunting in Stony Point - Jud Yalkut

The crucial,

Yayoi Kusama and Yalkut's KUSAMA'S SELF OBLITERRATION

Ken Jacob's RONALD GONZALES SCULPTOR
   FLO ROUNDS A CORNER
   TWO WRENCHING DEPARTURES

Henry Hills NERVOUS KEN with the heartbreakingly beautiful never to be  
forgotten

Emma Bernstein!

and my very favorite artist portrait, the segment Ken excised in STAR  
SPANGLED TO DEATH

from UNUSUAL OCCUPATIONS (1942)
of the whittler William D. Randolph of Rudolph Ohio.

FILM by Samuel Beckett and Alan Schneider
while not intended directly to be a "portrait"
of Buster Keaton
certainly sits in my head that way.

One more

JEU D'ECHECS AVEC MARCEL DUCHAMP (1963)

with appearances by Edgard Varese.

Forthcoming I have one of Ken and Flo Jacobs with Ernie Gehr
walking up Second Avenue on Halloween Eve
after a program of Segundo de Chomon films
at Anthology some years back.



On Feb 8, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Andy Ditzler wrote:

Haven't seen it mentioned so far, but an oft-referenced work in this  
genre is Hans Namuth's film on Jackson Pollock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cgBvpjwOGo


Andy Ditzler



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wrote:
Hi, frameworkers.  I’m looking for examples of portraits of artists  
and/or their processes or their works — sculptors, musicians, poets,  
other filmmakers, etc.  Really interested in hearing about non- 
standard, non-straight-doc, artistic/artist-made films and videos  
about other artists.  Particularly keen on short works.  Bonus  
points for ones available in some form online.  Thanks in advance  
for any suggestions you might have!


All the best,
Kate

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Re: [Frameworks] artist portraits

2014-02-08 Thread David Baker

Sorry one more I forgot
that means so much to me

Robert Smithson's SPIRAL JETTY,
with its vertiginous Icarus like intimations
of what no one then could know,
how he would leave this world.
The earthen spiral itself rhyming with the
reel of celluloid in the editing room.

It is important to say that Robert Smithson
was every bit Richard Serra's equal.
With his geologic unorthodoxies being a necessary counterpart to  
Serra's steely rigor.

What was lost with Smithson's death can never be calculated,
only dreamed about forever after.


On Feb 8, 2014, at 10:39 AM, David Baker wrote:


Mental telepathy Andy.
I was just thinking of that seminal portrait with the Morton Feldman  
soundtrack.


Others that have been meaningful to me:

Bruce Conner's THE WHITE ROSE
(in which Jay DeFeo makes a painting so big and consequential that
  an exterior wall has to be knocked down in order
  to get its blazing glory out into the world.)


Paola Igliori - American Magus (2002)

EDWARD JAMES:BUILDER OF DREAMS by Avery Danziger

The two portraits of the maddest most sublime bricoleur of all,
Clarence Schmidt,

CLARENCE by Jud Yalkut

MY MIRRORED HOPE by Beryl Sokoloff (1963)


John Cage  Mushroom Hunting in Stony Point - Jud Yalkut

The crucial,

Yayoi Kusama and Yalkut's KUSAMA'S SELF OBLITERRATION

Ken Jacob's RONALD GONZALES SCULPTOR
   FLO ROUNDS A CORNER
   TWO WRENCHING DEPARTURES

Henry Hills NERVOUS KEN with the heartbreakingly beautiful never to  
be forgotten

Emma Bernstein!

and my very favorite artist portrait, the segment Ken excised in  
STAR SPANGLED TO DEATH

from UNUSUAL OCCUPATIONS (1942)
of the whittler William D. Randolph of Rudolph Ohio.

FILM by Samuel Beckett and Alan Schneider
while not intended directly to be a "portrait"
of Buster Keaton
certainly sits in my head that way.

One more

JEU D'ECHECS AVEC MARCEL DUCHAMP (1963)

with appearances by Edgard Varese.

Forthcoming I have one of Ken and Flo Jacobs with Ernie Gehr
walking up Second Avenue on Halloween Eve
after a program of Segundo de Chomon films
at Anthology some years back.



On Feb 8, 2014, at 9:54 AM, Andy Ditzler wrote:

Haven't seen it mentioned so far, but an oft-referenced work in  
this genre is Hans Namuth's film on Jackson Pollock: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cgBvpjwOGo


Andy Ditzler



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wrote:
Hi, frameworkers.  I’m looking for examples of portraits of artists  
and/or their processes or their works — sculptors, musicians,  
poets, other filmmakers, etc.  Really interested in hearing about  
non-standard, non-straight-doc, artistic/artist-made films and  
videos about other artists.  Particularly keen on short works.   
Bonus points for ones available in some form online.  Thanks in  
advance for any suggestions you might have!


All the best,
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Re: [Frameworks] Oxberry Master Series Animation stand (model 5442) assembly

2014-02-08 Thread Ruth Hayes
Yes, that is Evergreen's Oxberry manual, adapted for our particular machine. 
It's currently under a dust cover, protected from a remodel that worked around 
it, and waiting for a retrofit so we can mount a DSLR on it.  The current 
set-up has a 16mm Mitchell camera and Spectrum Motion Control system running on 
a very old PC with MS DOS.  We will remove the old computer system and 
hopefully put in stepper motors with a more manual control similar to what it 
had originally.  I had the opportunity to look at the Oxberrys at USC last June 
that have DSLRs on them, but can also be converted back to film if that's what 
a student wants to shoot.  We support 16mm production in the media curriculum, 
so that's likely.

I'd appreciate hearing from others who are messing around with retrofitting 
animation stands, particularly Oxberrys.  Please contact me at my Evergreen 
email: hay...@evergreen.edu

Ruth Hayes
Member of the Faculty, The Evergreen State College 
http://www.randommotion.com
blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr

On Feb 7, 2014, at 4:33 PM, George, Sherman wrote:

> There is an operations manual at:
> http://www.evergreen.edu/electronicmedia/docs/oxberry_manual.pdf
> And oxberry tech support is at:
> Technical support for Oxberryproducts is available Monday through Friday from 
> 9 AM to 5 PM Eastern Time.
> 
> Phone: (201)-935-3000
> 
> Fax: (201)-935-0104
> 
> e-mail: techsupp...@oxberry.com
> 
>  
> I hope that helps.
> Sherman
> 
> 
> On Feb 7, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Warren Cockerham wrote:
> 
>> Hi all..
>> 
>> I was wondering if anyone on the list has any literature on (or images of) 
>> an Oxberry Master Series Animation stand model 5442. I'm currently 
>> assembling one that was purchased from the Atlantic Filmmakers Cooperative 
>> over the summer. I don't have the money to hire a tech from Oxberry. We've 
>> got it about halfway assembled using some photographs as reference. But, I'm 
>> afraid we'll need an official manual to proceed. Does anyone have one? Does 
>> anyone have detailed photographs of the machine assembled?  
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Re: [Frameworks] Oxberry Master Series Animation stand (model 5442) assembly

2014-02-08 Thread Warren Cockerham
Ruth (all):

Over here at Bennington College, ours is outfitted for 35mm and 16mm. It
also still has (what appears to be) a fully functioning stepper motor.
We're also hoping to outfit ours for a DSLR (or whatever future digital
cameras are best for stop motion) and I'm definitely hoping to make it an
interchangeable system. I've been reading about folks integrating homemade
step motors with Dragon Frame using Arduinos. I'd be interested to hear if
anyone has a fully functional Oxberry, with DSLR, and an integrated with
Dragon Frame. I'm much more excited about the film possibilities but I know
we'll need this to work digitally for practical purposes.

I'll probably try to visit USC when I'm in Los Angles in April. I also plan
to contact MassArt to look at theirs the next time I'm in Boston. When
Jodie Mack gets back to Dartmouth, I'll make the short trip over there too
to see what they've got. But I have a feeling this one is probably a bigger
model than Dartmouth and MassArt's -- I think MassArt has the Filmmaker
series rather than the double-pole master series that we have.

I'm sure there are some folks on this list that have worked with this exact
machine when it was at the Atlantic Filmmaker's Coop, We're still
assembling it (sort of blindly). I don't expect it to be fully functional
until the fall. If I don't figure it all out before the fiscal year rolls
over here this summer, we'll probably be looking to work with a technician
sometime in  late summer. DIY until then

all the best,
Warren


On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Ruth Hayes  wrote:

> Yes, that is Evergreen's Oxberry manual, adapted for our particular
> machine. It's currently under a dust cover, protected from a remodel that
> worked around it, and waiting for a retrofit so we can mount a DSLR on it.
>  The current set-up has a 16mm Mitchell camera and Spectrum Motion Control
> system running on a very old PC with MS DOS.  We will remove the old
> computer system and hopefully put in stepper motors with a more manual
> control similar to what it had originally.  I had the opportunity to look
> at the Oxberrys at USC last June that have DSLRs on them, but can also be
> converted back to film if that's what a student wants to shoot.  We support
> 16mm production in the media curriculum, so that's likely.
>
> I'd appreciate hearing from others who are messing around with
> retrofitting animation stands, particularly Oxberrys.  Please contact me at
> my Evergreen email: hay...@evergreen.edu
>
> Ruth Hayes
> Member of the Faculty, The Evergreen State College
>
> http://www.randommotion.com
>
> blogs.evergreen.edu/hayesr
>
> On Feb 7, 2014, at 4:33 PM, George, Sherman wrote:
>
>  There is an operations manual at:
> http://www.evergreen.edu/electronicmedia/docs/oxberry_manual.pdf
> And oxberry tech support is at:
>
> *Technical support for Oxberry**products is available Monday through
> Friday from 9 AM to 5 PM Eastern Time.*
>
> *Phone: (201)-935-3000 <%28201%29-935-3000>*
>
> *Fax: (201)-935-0104 <%28201%29-935-0104>*
>
> *e-mail: techsupp...@oxberry.com *
>
>I hope that helps.
> Sherman
>
>
>  On Feb 7, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Warren Cockerham wrote:
>
>   Hi all..
>
> I was wondering if anyone on the list has any literature on (or images of)
> an Oxberry Master Series Animation stand model 5442. I'm currently
> assembling one that was purchased from the Atlantic Filmmakers Cooperative
> over the summer. I don't have the money to hire a tech from Oxberry. We've
> got it about halfway assembled using some photographs as reference. But,
> I'm afraid we'll need an official manual to proceed. Does anyone have one?
> Does anyone have detailed photographs of the machine assembled?
>
>  thanks in advance...
>  Warren
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Re: [Frameworks] kodachrome 2 exp. 1975 kodachrome II

2014-02-08 Thread Johannes Schrems
hi, roger,  thanx for your answer. we had the same remjet coating on the 
k40 and k25 films too and removed them easy after developing by hand.

we do not mind the diy look afterwards.
to all of you:
i think there must be a way to develop kodachrome 2 in b&w negativ.
rocky mountain film lab and filmrescue.com are develping this film. 
anyone knowing someone working there how could ask for their secret?

no one ever done this?
pleace help!
best regards
johannes and milena


Am 27.01.2014 22:01, schrieb Roger Wilson:
Doesn't Kodachrome 2 have the remjet antihalation on it? Did you 
remove it first? I think then you just process it like regular b&w but 
I've not done it myself so I can't say for sure.


However, here is a list of chemicals that you use to make the remjet 
removal. I use this recipe for colour processing and it removes the 
remjet completely with no extra work. I use a morse G3 tank and run it 
through this recipe for 4 minutes max.


This is the one from kodak ECN-2:

WATER (27-38ºC) - 800ml
BORAX - 20g
SODIUM SULFATE (anhydrous) - 100g
SODIUM HYDROXIDE - 1g
WATER to complete - 1 litre



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and my career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I 
welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to try something 
different, something new.



> Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 19:50:00 +0100
> From: j...@gmx.at
> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
> Subject: [Frameworks] kodachrome 2 exp. 1975
>
> hi,
>
> is there anyone who knows how to develop a kodachrome 2 in b&w negative
> or reversal?
> the process originally was k11 or k12.
>
> i developed the kodachrome 40 and 25 with the foma chemie in b&w
> reversal and it worked well.
> but foma did not work with the old kodachrome 2.
> i tried to develop the kodachrome2 with b+w neg. process with ilfosol
> developer and the film was completely black, also on the edges!
>
> thanx for hints!
>
> best regards
> johannes
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[Frameworks] Films and videos about music fan culture

2014-02-08 Thread Adam R. Levine
Hi Frameworks,

I am looking for suggestions for work by or about music fans, films that
explore an individual's personal connection to a band or recording artist,
perhaps even films that take a critical look at ideas of music performance
or rock stardom. If you've made such a work yourself, feel free to mention
it or send me a link. Some things I've considered, to give you a sense:

Jeremy Deller - *Our Hobby Is Depeche Mode*/*The Posters Came From The
Walls*
William E. Jones - *Is It Really So Strange?*
Dan Graham - *Rock My Religion*
Mark Leckey - *Fiorucci Made Me Hardcore*
Alan Zweig - *Vinyl*
Matt Wolf - *Teenage*

Thanks so much for your help,
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Re: [Frameworks] Films and videos about music fan culture

2014-02-08 Thread Adam Hyman
One of Ben Russell¹s Black & White Trypps (I forget which number) shows fans
at a concert from a stage POV, and might be one thing like what you want. I
feel like there is a Jem Cohen film that also does something similar.


On 2/8/14 12:33 PM, "Adam R. Levine"  wrote:

> Hi Frameworks,
> 
> I am looking for suggestions for work by or about music fans, films that
> explore an individual's personal connection to a band or recording artist,
> perhaps even films that take a critical look at ideas of music performance or
> rock stardom. If you've made such a work yourself, feel free to mention it or
> send me a link. Some things I've considered, to give you a sense:
> 
> Jeremy Deller - Our Hobby Is Depeche Mode/The Posters Came From The Walls
> William E. Jones - Is It Really So Strange?
> Dan Graham - Rock My Religion
> Mark Leckey - Fiorucci Made Me Hardcore
> Alan Zweig - Vinyl
> Matt Wolf - Teenage
> 
> Thanks so much for your help,
> Adam
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Films and videos about music fan culture

2014-02-08 Thread Beebe, Roger W.
There are some pretty great super 8 fan sequences in Instrument (by Jem Cohen). 
 Overall that’s a pretty wonderful film in the way that it avoids having the 
band play all the jams & just focuses instead on all the stuff around that.

And it’s Trypps #3 with Lightning Bolt (then replaced by Joe Grimm for the real 
trip sequence).

…
R.

On Feb 8, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Adam Hyman 
mailto:a...@lafilmforum.org>> wrote:

One of Ben Russell’s Black & White Trypps (I forget which number) shows fans at 
a concert from a stage POV, and might be one thing like what you want. I feel 
like there is a Jem Cohen film that also does something similar.


On 2/8/14 12:33 PM, "Adam R. Levine" 
mailto:ada...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Frameworks,

I am looking for suggestions for work by or about music fans, films that 
explore an individual's personal connection to a band or recording artist, 
perhaps even films that take a critical look at ideas of music performance or 
rock stardom. If you've made such a work yourself, feel free to mention it or 
send me a link. Some things I've considered, to give you a sense:

Jeremy Deller - Our Hobby Is Depeche Mode/The Posters Came From The Walls
William E. Jones - Is It Really So Strange?
Dan Graham - Rock My Religion
Mark Leckey - Fiorucci Made Me Hardcore
Alan Zweig - Vinyl
Matt Wolf - Teenage

Thanks so much for your help,
Adam


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Re: [Frameworks] Films and videos about music fan culture

2014-02-08 Thread Bryan Wendorf
Obviously Jeff Krulik's Heavy Metal Parking Lot is essential to this topic.

Bryan Wendorf
Programmer and Artistic Director
Chicago Underground Film Festival
http://www.cuff.org


On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Beebe, Roger W.  wrote:

>  There are some pretty great super 8 fan sequences in Instrument (by Jem
> Cohen).  Overall that's a pretty wonderful film in the way that it avoids
> having the band play all the jams & just focuses instead on all the stuff
> around that.
>
>  And it's Trypps #3 with Lightning Bolt (then replaced by Joe Grimm for
> the real trip sequence).
>
>  ...
> R.
>
>  On Feb 8, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Adam Hyman  wrote:
>
>  One of Ben Russell's Black & White Trypps (I forget which number) shows
> fans at a concert from a stage POV, and might be one thing like what you
> want. I feel like there is a Jem Cohen film that also does something
> similar.
>
>
> On 2/8/14 12:33 PM, "Adam R. Levine"  wrote:
>
>  Hi Frameworks,
>
> I am looking for suggestions for work by or about music fans, films that
> explore an individual's personal connection to a band or recording artist,
> perhaps even films that take a critical look at ideas of music performance
> or rock stardom. If you've made such a work yourself, feel free to mention
> it or send me a link. Some things I've considered, to give you a sense:
>
> Jeremy Deller - *Our Hobby Is Depeche Mode*/
> *The Posters Came From The Walls *William E. Jones -
> *Is It Really So Strange? *Dan Graham -
> *Rock My Religion *Mark Leckey -
> *Fiorucci Made Me Hardcore *Alan Zweig -
> *Vinyl *Matt Wolf -
>
> *Teenage *Thanks so much for your help,
> Adam
>
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Re: [Frameworks] Films and videos about music fan culture

2014-02-08 Thread Tom Whiteside
And his follow up "Neil Diamond Parking Lot" (same venue, I think it was 20 
years later)

From: FrameWorks [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of 
Bryan Wendorf
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 4:01 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Films and videos about music fan culture

Obviously Jeff Krulik's Heavy Metal Parking Lot is essential to this topic.

Bryan Wendorf
Programmer and Artistic Director
Chicago Underground Film Festival
http://www.cuff.org

On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Beebe, Roger W. 
mailto:beebe...@osu.edu>> wrote:
There are some pretty great super 8 fan sequences in Instrument (by Jem Cohen). 
 Overall that's a pretty wonderful film in the way that it avoids having the 
band play all the jams & just focuses instead on all the stuff around that.

And it's Trypps #3 with Lightning Bolt (then replaced by Joe Grimm for the real 
trip sequence).

...
R.

On Feb 8, 2014, at 3:50 PM, Adam Hyman 
mailto:a...@lafilmforum.org>> wrote:


One of Ben Russell's Black & White Trypps (I forget which number) shows fans at 
a concert from a stage POV, and might be one thing like what you want. I feel 
like there is a Jem Cohen film that also does something similar.


On 2/8/14 12:33 PM, "Adam R. Levine" 
mailto:ada...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Hi Frameworks,

I am looking for suggestions for work by or about music fans, films that 
explore an individual's personal connection to a band or recording artist, 
perhaps even films that take a critical look at ideas of music performance or 
rock stardom. If you've made such a work yourself, feel free to mention it or 
send me a link. Some things I've considered, to give you a sense:

Jeremy Deller - Our Hobby Is Depeche Mode/The Posters Came From The Walls
William E. Jones - Is It Really So Strange?
Dan Graham - Rock My Religion
Mark Leckey - Fiorucci Made Me Hardcore
Alan Zweig - Vinyl
Matt Wolf - Teenage

Thanks so much for your help,
Adam

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Re: [Frameworks] Films and videos about music fan culture

2014-02-08 Thread Peter Snowdon

I think the one Adam is thinking of is this one (number 3):
https://vimeo.com/6975800

Le 8/02/14 21:50, Adam Hyman a écrit :
Re: [Frameworks] Films and videos about music fan culture One of Ben 
Russell’s Black & White Trypps (I forget which number) shows fans at a 
concert from a stage POV, and might be one thing like what you want. I 
feel like there is a Jem Cohen film that also does something similar.



On 2/8/14 12:33 PM, "Adam R. Levine"  wrote:

Hi Frameworks,

I am looking for suggestions for work by or about music fans,
films that explore an individual's personal connection to a band
or recording artist, perhaps even films that take a critical look
at ideas of music performance or rock stardom. If you've made such
a work yourself, feel free to mention it or send me a link. Some
things I've considered, to give you a sense:

Jeremy Deller - /Our Hobby Is Depeche Mode///The Posters Came From
The Walls
/William E. Jones - /Is It Really So Strange?
/Dan Graham - /Rock My Religion
/Mark Leckey - /Fiorucci Made Me Hardcore
/Alan Zweig - /Vinyl
/Matt Wolf - /Teenage

/Thanks so much for your help,
Adam


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[Frameworks] Hi I need to unsubscribe from the list until my project is a little further developed--many thanks and it's been great to read!

2014-02-08 Thread George Prochnik

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Re: [Frameworks] kodachrome 2 exp. 1975 kodachrome II

2014-02-08 Thread Roger Wilson
Hi Johannes,
I have a friend who has notes on how to process this film as b&w but he is in 
Africa until the end of next week, once he gets back I will get them from him 
and forward them to you.
Roger

Roger D. WilsonFilm Scientist613 324 - 
7504rogerdwilson@sympatico.cahttp://www.rogerdwilson.ca
Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my 
career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as it 
pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. 

Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 20:44:28 +0100
From: johannesschr...@gmail.com
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] kodachrome 2 exp. 1975 kodachrome II


  

  
  
hi, roger,  thanx for your answer. we had the same remjet coating on
the k40 and k25 films too and removed them easy after developing by
hand.

we do not mind the diy look afterwards.

to all of you:

i think there must be a way to develop kodachrome 2 in b&w
negativ.

rocky mountain film lab and filmrescue.com are develping this film.
anyone knowing someone working there how could ask for their secret?

no one ever done this? 

pleace help!

best regards

johannes and milena





Am 27.01.2014 22:01, schrieb Roger
  Wilson:



  

Doesn't
Kodachrome 2 have the remjet antihalation on it? Did you
remove it first? I think then you just process it like
regular b&w but I've not done it myself so I can't say
for sure. 
  


  However, here is a
  list of chemicals that you use to make the remjet removal.
  I use this recipe for colour processing and it removes the
  remjet completely with no extra work. I use a morse G3
  tank and run it through this recipe for 4 minutes max.


This is
  the one from kodak ECN-2:

WATER
  (27-38ºC) - 800ml
BORAX -
  20g
SODIUM
  SULFATE (anhydrous) - 100g
SODIUM
  HYDROXIDE - 1g
WATER
  to complete - 1 litre
  

  

  

  Roger D. Wilson
  Film Scientist
  613 324 - 7504
  rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca
  http://www.rogerdwilson.ca

  
  

  Without failure you can never
  achieve success. I have based my process and my career
  as an experimental film artist on this statement; and
  I welcome it as it pushes me forward as an artist to
  try something different, something new. 
  

  

  > Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2014 19:50:00 +0100

> From: j...@gmx.at

> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com

> Subject: [Frameworks] kodachrome 2 exp. 1975

> 

> hi,

> 

> is there anyone who knows how to develop a
kodachrome 2 in b&w negative 

> or reversal?

> the process originally was k11 or k12.

> 

> i developed the kodachrome 40 and 25 with the foma
chemie in b&w 

> reversal and it worked well.

> but foma did not work with the old kodachrome 2.

> i tried to develop the kodachrome2 with b+w neg.
process with ilfosol 

> developer and the film was completely black, also
on the edges!

> 

> thanx for hints!

> 

> best regards

> johannes

> filmkoop wien

> 

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Re: [Frameworks] Films and videos about music fan culture

2014-02-08 Thread Ross Nugent
*I Can't Wait to Meet You There *(Michael Alexander Morris, 2010-12, 12 min)

vimeo.com/38970593


*American Juggalo **(Sean Dunne, 2012, 24 min)*

*vimeo.com/29589320 *



*The Decline of Western Civilization Part II: The Metal Years* (Penelope
Spheeris, 1988, 93 min)


Rock on.


~Ross












On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Peter Snowdon  wrote:

>  I think the one Adam is thinking of is this one (number 3):
> https://vimeo.com/6975800
>
> Le 8/02/14 21:50, Adam Hyman a écrit :
>
> One of Ben Russell's Black & White Trypps (I forget which number) shows
> fans at a concert from a stage POV, and might be one thing like what you
> want. I feel like there is a Jem Cohen film that also does something
> similar.
>
>
> On 2/8/14 12:33 PM, "Adam R. Levine"  
> wrote:
>
>  Hi Frameworks,
>
> I am looking for suggestions for work by or about music fans, films that
> explore an individual's personal connection to a band or recording artist,
> perhaps even films that take a critical look at ideas of music performance
> or rock stardom. If you've made such a work yourself, feel free to mention
> it or send me a link. Some things I've considered, to give you a sense:
>
> Jeremy Deller - *Our Hobby Is Depeche Mode*/
> *The Posters Came From The Walls *William E. Jones -
> *Is It Really So Strange? *Dan Graham -
> *Rock My Religion *Mark Leckey -
> *Fiorucci Made Me Hardcore *Alan Zweig -
> *Vinyl *Matt Wolf -
>
> *Teenage *Thanks so much for your help,
> Adam
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[Frameworks] Research Products Optical Printer for sale (Chicago)

2014-02-08 Thread Jason Halprin
Hello,

This is perhaps a long-shot, but I'm posting on behalf of my friend George 
Eastman (no relation), who has a Research Products Optical Printer that he is 
looking to sell. Currently, it is sitting in a storage unit in Chicago, IL, and 
it was in full working order when it was moved there last Spring.

If you're interested in finding out more or making an offer, you can contact 
him directly at geo...@aol.com. 

Essentially, he is looking to make back the costs of moving this machine 
locally, and then storing it for the better part of a year, which would still 
be a very reasonable price for this type of machine.

Although it is located in Chicago, it would probably be feasible to have it 
moved to another city in North America for a few hundred dollars.

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Re: [Frameworks] Films and videos about music fan culture

2014-02-08 Thread N Brynolfson
How 'bout Tape Crackers?

http://www.rollojackson.com/tape_crackers.html

> On Feb 8, 2014, at 6:50 PM, Ross Nugent  wrote:
> 
> I Can’t Wait to Meet You There (Michael Alexander Morris, 2010-12, 12 min)
> 
> vimeo.com/38970593
> 
> 
> 
> American Juggalo (Sean Dunne, 2012, 24 min)
> vimeo.com/29589320
>  
> 
> The Decline of Western Civilization Part II: The Metal Years (Penelope 
> Spheeris, 1988, 93 min)
> 
> 
> 
> Rock on.
> 
> 
> 
> ~Ross
> 
>   
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Peter Snowdon  wrote:
>> I think the one Adam is thinking of is this one (number 3): 
>> https://vimeo.com/6975800
>> 
>> Le 8/02/14 21:50, Adam Hyman a écrit :
>>> One of Ben Russell’s Black & White Trypps (I forget which number) shows 
>>> fans at a concert from a stage POV, and might be one thing like what you 
>>> want. I feel like there is a Jem Cohen film that also does something 
>>> similar.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2/8/14 12:33 PM, "Adam R. Levine"  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Frameworks,
>>> 
>>> I am looking for suggestions for work by or about music fans, films that 
>>> explore an individual's personal connection to a band or recording artist, 
>>> perhaps even films that take a critical look at ideas of music performance 
>>> or rock stardom. If you've made such a work yourself, feel free to mention 
>>> it or send me a link. Some things I've considered, to give you a sense:
>>> 
>>> Jeremy Deller - Our Hobby Is Depeche Mode/The Posters Came From The Walls
>>> William E. Jones - Is It Really So Strange?
>>> Dan Graham - Rock My Religion
>>> Mark Leckey - Fiorucci Made Me Hardcore
>>> Alan Zweig - Vinyl
>>> Matt Wolf - Teenage
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much for your help,
>>> Adam
>>> 
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