Re: [Frameworks] Arri S Tech Question

[Isaac Brooks]

Yeah I was just curious. The hard front with the single mount is what I
asked him about - I had access some lenses in PL at the time. I often use a
set of primes in b-mount when I can on my 16S, happily. That said I don’t
think its that unreasonable a prospect. IB

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 11:00 PM Jeff Kreines  wrote:

> It would likely require a hard front with one mount.
>
> But why do it?  PL mount lenses are pricey, and there’s a lot of good
> glass in Arri Mount. Besides, the 16S isn’t Super 16, so you are putting a
> lot of money into a camera that would be hard to sell. (If that matters to
> you.)
>
> Converting a 16S to S16 is difficult. I’d be wary of most repair people
> who claim they can do it.
>
> Jeff Kreines
> Kinetta
> j...@kinetta.com
> kinetta.com
>
> Sent from iPhone.
>
> On May 27, 2020, at 10:53 PM, Isaac Brooks 
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Jeff & Co,
>
> I’m sorry for the aside, but do you know of a technician that could put a
> PL hard front on an Arri 16S? Asked Les Bosher once and he said he didn’t
> offer it as an option. Thank you!
>
> Isaac
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 10:05 PM Jeff Kreines  wrote:
>
>> I hate to disagree with Scott.
>>
>> First, I assume your camera has a standard or Bayonet Arri mount, not PL.
>>
>> Arri Mount has a flange focal distance of 52mm. Olympus has a FFD of
>> 46mm. That means a lens can’t focus to infinity, tho it could be used as a
>> macro. Zooms will be somewhat disastrous as focus won’t hold through the
>> zoom range.
>>
>> If it were the other way — using the Olympus lens on, say, a C mount
>> camera, there’s plenty of room — C Mount is 17.526.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff Kreines
>> Kinetta
>> j...@kinetta.com
>> kinetta.com
>>
>> Sent from iPhone.
>>
>> > On May 27, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Dominic Angerame <
>> dominic.anger...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Yeah thanks Scott was able to get a battery from B that works just
>> fine, very portable….Power Star 1223 12v 2.3AH also runs my EL.
>> >
>> > d
>> >
>> >> On May 27, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Scott Dorsey  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> You could probably get an M42-to-PL adaptor and then an Olympus-to-M42
>> >> adaptor and screw them together if you really are married to that
>> >> configuration.  I wouldn't try it with a zoom, though... every time you
>> >> add an adaptor you're adding more error to your backfocus distance.
>> >> --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Arri S Tech Question

[Jeff Kreines]

It would likely require a hard front with one mount. 

But why do it?  PL mount lenses are pricey, and there’s a lot of good glass in 
Arri Mount. Besides, the 16S isn’t Super 16, so you are putting a lot of money 
into a camera that would be hard to sell. (If that matters to you.)

Converting a 16S to S16 is difficult. I’d be wary of most repair people who 
claim they can do it.

Jeff Kreines
Kinetta
j...@kinetta.com
kinetta.com

Sent from iPhone. 

> On May 27, 2020, at 10:53 PM, Isaac Brooks  wrote:
> 
> 
> Jeff & Co, 
> 
> I’m sorry for the aside, but do you know of a technician that could put a PL 
> hard front on an Arri 16S? Asked Les Bosher once and he said he didn’t offer 
> it as an option. Thank you! 
> 
> Isaac 
> 
>> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 10:05 PM Jeff Kreines  wrote:
>> I hate to disagree with Scott. 
>> 
>> First, I assume your camera has a standard or Bayonet Arri mount, not PL. 
>> 
>> Arri Mount has a flange focal distance of 52mm. Olympus has a FFD of 46mm. 
>> That means a lens can’t focus to infinity, tho it could be used as a macro. 
>> Zooms will be somewhat disastrous as focus won’t hold through the zoom range.
>> 
>> If it were the other way — using the Olympus lens on, say, a C mount camera, 
>> there’s plenty of room — C Mount is 17.526. 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jeff Kreines
>> Kinetta
>> j...@kinetta.com
>> kinetta.com
>> 
>> Sent from iPhone. 
>> 
>> > On May 27, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Dominic Angerame  
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> > Yeah thanks Scott was able to get a battery from B that works just 
>> > fine, very portable….Power Star 1223 12v 2.3AH also runs my EL.
>> > 
>> > d
>> > 
>> >> On May 27, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Scott Dorsey  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> You could probably get an M42-to-PL adaptor and then an Olympus-to-M42
>> >> adaptor and screw them together if you really are married to that 
>> >> configuration.  I wouldn't try it with a zoom, though... every time you
>> >> add an adaptor you're adding more error to your backfocus distance.
>> >> --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Arri S Tech Question

[Isaac Brooks]

Jeff & Co,

I’m sorry for the aside, but do you know of a technician that could put a
PL hard front on an Arri 16S? Asked Les Bosher once and he said he didn’t
offer it as an option. Thank you!

Isaac

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 10:05 PM Jeff Kreines  wrote:

> I hate to disagree with Scott.
>
> First, I assume your camera has a standard or Bayonet Arri mount, not PL.
>
> Arri Mount has a flange focal distance of 52mm. Olympus has a FFD of 46mm.
> That means a lens can’t focus to infinity, tho it could be used as a macro.
> Zooms will be somewhat disastrous as focus won’t hold through the zoom
> range.
>
> If it were the other way — using the Olympus lens on, say, a C mount
> camera, there’s plenty of room — C Mount is 17.526.
>
>
>
> Jeff Kreines
> Kinetta
> j...@kinetta.com
> kinetta.com
>
> Sent from iPhone.
>
> > On May 27, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Dominic Angerame <
> dominic.anger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah thanks Scott was able to get a battery from B that works just
> fine, very portable….Power Star 1223 12v 2.3AH also runs my EL.
> >
> > d
> >
> >> On May 27, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Scott Dorsey  wrote:
> >>
> >> You could probably get an M42-to-PL adaptor and then an Olympus-to-M42
> >> adaptor and screw them together if you really are married to that
> >> configuration.  I wouldn't try it with a zoom, though... every time you
> >> add an adaptor you're adding more error to your backfocus distance.
> >> --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Looking for camera repair

[Todd Eacrett]

Don't know what more to suggest. Could be held in place by rust, gunk or a 
slightly bent case. 


On Wed, May 27, 2020, at 7:56 AM, Morgan Hoyle-Combs wrote:
> 
> The one I have has the three screws and the firing knob that all came lose 
> when I unscrewed them. But Still nothing came undone. If you'd like, I can do 
> a video of what I'm taking apart and show you what is what. 
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Re: [Frameworks] Arri S Tech Question

[Dominic Angerame]

Yeah thanks Scott was able to get a battery from B that works just fine, very 
portable….Power Star 1223 12v 2.3AH also runs my EL.

d

> On May 27, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Scott Dorsey  wrote:
> 
> You could probably get an M42-to-PL adaptor and then an Olympus-to-M42
> adaptor and screw them together if you really are married to that 
> configuration.  I wouldn't try it with a zoom, though... every time you
> add an adaptor you're adding more error to your backfocus distance.
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Re: [Frameworks] Arri S Tech Question

[Scott Dorsey]

You could probably get an M42-to-PL adaptor and then an Olympus-to-M42
adaptor and screw them together if you really are married to that 
configuration.  I wouldn't try it with a zoom, though... every time you
add an adaptor you're adding more error to your backfocus distance.
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[Frameworks] Arri S Tech Question

[Dominic Angerame]

I have an Arri S camera and I want to use my Olympus zoom lens for filming. 
Does anyone know if there is such an adapter Arri S mount to Olympus.

Thanks


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Re: [Frameworks] Looking for camera repair

[Morgan Hoyle-Combs]

 The one I have has the three screws and the firing knob that all came lose 
when I unscrewed them. But Still nothing came undone. If you'd like, I can do a 
video of what I'm taking apart and show you what is what. 
On Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 10:49:42 PM EDT, Todd Eacrett 
 wrote:  
 
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Weird. The two I have are slightly different, but both are tethered to the case 
in the same way. With the screws removed is the mechanism loose within the case 
or still solidly attached? I'm not a camera technician so I don't recommend 
prying with a screwdriver, but it has worked for me.


On Tue, May 26, 2020, at 3:43 PM, Morgan Hoyle-Combs wrote:


Already tried it. Screws, knob, meter reel and all. Something else is keeping 
it grounded to the body. 

On Tuesday, May 26, 2020, 4:32:07 PM EDT, Todd Eacrett  
wrote:



In addition to the three screws on the back of the case, you need to remove the 
shutter release knob and the footage counter (top of the case). The latter has 
a spring washer under it, so don't lose it. The mechanism should slide/wiggle 
out as one unit, but if the case is bent or dented it could hang up on the 
edges. You can clean and lube easily without further disassembly; I think I 
basically soaked the entire mech in solvent. 


On Tue, May 26, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Morgan Hoyle-Combs wrote:


I was abe to loosen the bolts that held the camera mechanism in place, but was 
unable to get the mechanism out. There was still something holding it on there. 
I didn't want to take any chances by forcing it, so I put everything back in 
place. If someone out there has the ability and tools to remove the mechanism 
and oil down the gears while there at it, then thats all I would like completed.

M

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Re: [Frameworks] JK 104 optical printer for sale!

[George, Sherman]

Martha,
Where is the printer located?
Sherman George

On May 27, 2020, at 2:26 AM, Martha Jurksaitis 
mailto:cherryk...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello Beautiful Frameworkers!

I have for sale a beautiful JK optical printer with Gossen probe, Super 8 and 
16mm gates, prism, animation motor, and manual controller. I’ve moved with my 
little boy onto a bus and am becoming more minimalist in my approach so I have 
decided to sell it. I also have a 4 plate Steenbeck on wheels.

The JK was sold to me by the East Anglian Film Archive who had by their own 
admission hardly used it, only for an occasional damaged film. I’ve attached 
photos of the JK. It’s a K104. Everything in the sale is in the photos. I will 
just hang on to the lightmeter.

A few things of note:

The glass on the voltmeter is (and always has been) cracked, which prevents the 
needle showing the voltage, I just worked around it but I imagine it can also 
be fixed.

The frame counter needs adjusting as it doesn’t engage quite well.

There is a tiny screw missing to mount the lamp extension to its body. Probably 
very easy to replace I just never needed to but it is unsteady so probably a 
good idea.

The Gossen probe is a little moth eaten on the outside (a bit of the rubber in 
small patches) but I don’t think it affects how it works.

The power source works fine you just need to put something heavy on it to curb 
the noise, I used to use a book!

I will keep the lunasix light meter but will include the probe!

I’m posting because I want to sell to the highest bidder (naturally!) and would 
love to hear offers. It is fully working. I used it pretty minimally, to make 
about 4 films. I do absolutely love it. I would love it if whoever it goes to 
would be ok with me visiting sometime to use it :)))
Also a great chance to connect with like-souled film lovers!

Warmest,

Martha / Cherry Kino

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Re: [Frameworks] Windex Developing 35 still film

[Francisco Torres]

and for the most daring.

https://www.amazon.com/PHCC-PRO-SERIES-Battery-Acid/dp/B01M0RQ76Q

2020-05-27 9:56 GMT-04:00, Francisco Torres :
> soupers should try burying undeveloped rolls for a while. it worked
> like a charm with eggs for hallo'ween... not that i did it myself,
> ever
>
> 2020-05-27 7:19 GMT-04:00, Nicole Baker :
>> Coca Cola is a favorite for soupers! I've seen some really beautiful
>> results on still film. I tried it in motion picture film and the results
>> were... less inspiring.
>>
>> Nicole Elaine Baker Peterson
>> MFA in Visual Studies, 2019
>> Pacific Northwest College of Art
>> Hallie Ford School of Graduate Studies
>> *www.magiklantern.com *
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 12:46 AM Francisco Torres 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> '',,,create inclusions, color warping, and other "off" elements ...''
>>> ammonia would do that for sure. maybe car battery acid or coca cola
>>> also!
>>>
>>> 2020-05-26 2:03 GMT-04:00, Nicole Baker :
>>> > It's possible what they're doing is "souping" the film. That's where
>>> > you
>>> > expose it to chemicals or other substances that will create
>>> > inclusions,
>>> > color warping, and other "off" elements when you develop it.
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, May 26, 2020, 1:19 AM Francisco Torres 
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> i would not do that. windex is mostly ammonia, right?
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Re: [Frameworks] Windex Developing 35 still film

[Francisco Torres]

soupers should try burying undeveloped rolls for a while. it worked
like a charm with eggs for hallo'ween... not that i did it myself,
ever

2020-05-27 7:19 GMT-04:00, Nicole Baker :
> Coca Cola is a favorite for soupers! I've seen some really beautiful
> results on still film. I tried it in motion picture film and the results
> were... less inspiring.
>
> Nicole Elaine Baker Peterson
> MFA in Visual Studies, 2019
> Pacific Northwest College of Art
> Hallie Ford School of Graduate Studies
> *www.magiklantern.com *
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 12:46 AM Francisco Torres 
> wrote:
>
>> '',,,create inclusions, color warping, and other "off" elements ...''
>> ammonia would do that for sure. maybe car battery acid or coca cola
>> also!
>>
>> 2020-05-26 2:03 GMT-04:00, Nicole Baker :
>> > It's possible what they're doing is "souping" the film. That's where
>> > you
>> > expose it to chemicals or other substances that will create inclusions,
>> > color warping, and other "off" elements when you develop it.
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 26, 2020, 1:19 AM Francisco Torres 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> i would not do that. windex is mostly ammonia, right?
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Re: [Frameworks] Windex Developing 35 still film

[Nicole Baker]

Coca Cola is a favorite for soupers! I've seen some really beautiful
results on still film. I tried it in motion picture film and the results
were... less inspiring.

Nicole Elaine Baker Peterson
MFA in Visual Studies, 2019
Pacific Northwest College of Art
Hallie Ford School of Graduate Studies
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On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 12:46 AM Francisco Torres 
wrote:

> '',,,create inclusions, color warping, and other "off" elements ...''
> ammonia would do that for sure. maybe car battery acid or coca cola
> also!
>
> 2020-05-26 2:03 GMT-04:00, Nicole Baker :
> > It's possible what they're doing is "souping" the film. That's where you
> > expose it to chemicals or other substances that will create inclusions,
> > color warping, and other "off" elements when you develop it.
> >
> > On Tue, May 26, 2020, 1:19 AM Francisco Torres 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> i would not do that. windex is mostly ammonia, right?
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