Re: [Frameworks] kern palliard filter size
The Kern Paillard Switar 25mm f/1.4 has a filter ring size of 32mm. Kern Paillard Yvar 75mm f/2.8 also has a filter ring size of 32mm. Kern Paillard Switar 75mm f1.9 has a filter ring size of 41mm. Jean-Louis Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 12, 2019, at 9:56 AM, Ignacio Tamarit > wrote: > > Hola workers of the frame! > > Do you know what is the size of the filter ring of the kern palliard lenses > 25 mm and 75 mm? > > thanks a lot > > -- > Ignacio Tamarit > Lumiton Museo Usina Audiovisual > Cabral 2354, Munro, Vicente López. > Tel.: 4721-9255. > > Libre de virus. www.avast.com > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Repairing and servicing an Elmo S-8 Sound projector
ABDERRAZAK "ABDUL" SETOUA PO Box 2555 Astoria, New York 11102 United States Telephone: + 1 718 426 1986 Telephone 2: +1 917 204 6755 Email: cinerep...@aol.com Service for Bell & Howell, Eiki, and Elmo. Jean-Louis Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 19, 2018, at 12:13 PM, Sceptics skept wrote: > > Hi Robert. I’m in NYC too. Which S8 Elmo projector Is it, and what servicing > is needed? I have a number of S8 & 16mm projectors > > Evangelos Samaras > > On Dec 19, 2018, at 11:53 AM, Robert Withers wrote: > >> Hello, >> I had a reference a few years ago for someone who said he could do this but >> times change. >> >> Any references who could do minor servicing and tune up this machine in the >> New York City area? >> >> Thanks, >> Robert Withers >> withe...@earthlink.net >> >> >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] crystal sync super-8
Pip, thank you for your detailed answer. It's great to see these efforts being made to improve these classic cameras with modern solutions. Jean-Louis Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 11, 2018, at 7:27 PM, Jeff Kreines wrote: > > We had this Nizo mod in 1973 at the MIT film section, but of course circuitry > has gotten a lot smaller since then. Christophe does nice work. > > Jeff Kreines > Kinetta > j...@kinetta.com > kinetta.com > > Sent from iPhone. > >> On Feb 11, 2018, at 6:03 PM, Pip Chodorov wrote: >> >> Hi Jean-Louis, >> >> In December I saw offered on eBay a Nizo that had been modified for crystal >> sync a few years ago by TFG in Easthampton, CT, and I asked our resident >> technical expert in Paris, Christophe Goulard, if I should buy it. That >> modification requires a large box to be plugged into the side of the canera >> when you want it to run exactly at 24. Christophe has been fixing and >> modifying Nizos for years, such as adding a button to adjust the ASA for the >> new film stocks, or bypassing the need for the small round batteries for the >> light meter by wiring them to the AA pack. He is also modifying Bolex >> cameras, adding through the lens light meters, or motors; he is planning a >> way to replace the xenon bulbs in Eiki projectors with cool bright LEDs... >> He thought about the crystal sync problem and said, "don't buy it - it would >> be very easy to make that circuit myself." >> >> The actual crystal component is tiny and he has designed a circuit that can >> be printed on a small board less than an inch long that can sit inside the >> camera. The circuit will only work when the camera is set to 24FPS. He just >> has to cut the wire leading out of the speed dial at the 24fps position and >> solder in his circuit. It will be powered from the 9V battery pack with a >> transformer because it only needs 3V. It will check the speed two dozen >> times per frame, rather than once a frame as in the TFG modification. It >> will run at 24 point zero zero zero frames per second. >> >> He will offer this modification to your Nizo for 160 euros (unless your >> camera also needs some other revisions). >> >> We hope to offer some crystal sync cameras on our webshop soon. Christophe >> has been busy so we're down now to one S800 for sale but he has a series of >> Nizos that will be ready soon, and then he will start on the sync project, >> using an 801 macro. >> >> Keep in touch if you are interested, >> Pip >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> At 8:03 -0500 11/02/18, Jean-Louis Seguin wrote: >>> Could you please tell me more about your technician and the crystal sync >>> circuit that he has devised. >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] film scanner
Could you please tell me more about your technician and the crystal sync circuit that he has devised. Thanks, Jean-Louis Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 11, 2018, at 5:45 AM, Pip Chodorov wrote: > > . Our technician in Paris has made a tiny crystal sync circuit that will fit > in the camera behind the speed dial that will keep the speed accurate to > three decimal points. The ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Seeking Projector Manual (Eiki EX-2000A)
I'm not an expert but It would seem that the EX-2000 is the same as the N-series except for the Xenon lamp circuitry. Manual for N-series here: http://www.film-tech.com/warehouse/manuals/EIKINSERVICE.pdf Jean-Louis Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 18, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Steve Polta wrote: > > Hi. I'm looking for a full service manual for an Eiki EX-2000A 16mm > projector. PDF would be fab but paper-copy-by-mail would be cool too. Any > leads? This would be in support of San Francisco Cinematheque if that > matters. Thanks. > > Steve Polta > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Film supplies in Japan
Contact: http://retro8.com/english/englishindex.html Cheers, Jean-Louis Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 10, 2017, at 8:29 PM, Ignacio Tamarit > wrote: > > Hi Frameworks, > > Does anybody know where to buy film supplies in japan? splicing tape, leader > etc... > > thanks! > > -- > Ignacio Tamarit > Lumiton Museo Usina Audiovisual > Cabral 2354, Munro, Vicente López. > Tel.: 4721-9255. > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Guillotine Splicer
Try http://www.cutfilm.com/used.html Jean-Louis Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 9, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Dominic Angerame > wrote: > > I am looking for a part to a 16mm guillotine splicer. The bottom plate with > pegs and the bolts to fasten the plate. > > Also a used reasonably priced splicer. > > Contact me at domi...@cinemod.net > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Job posting
https://hr.cf.ryerson.ca/ams/public/external_view.cfm?post_id=97435 Thanks! Jean-Louis___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Looking for Steenbeck 6000 16/35 timing belts
I only have the 83 in stock. I have ordered them from Dinamica in Spain Here's the information: DINAMICA Distribuciones, S.A. Ctra N-II. Km.592.6 08740 - Sant Andreu de la Barca - BARCELONA Tel. 93-653 35 00 Fax. 93-653 35 08 E-mail : dinam...@dinamica.net Internet : http://www.dinamica.net Ask for Synchroflex 10 DRxx where xx is the number of teeth. These are not standard metric belts but a long ago discontinued pitch. As far as I know, Dinamica are the only ones in the world carrying this. Good luck, Jean-Louis On 2016-02-19, at 12:01 PM, Transit Audio Services Ltd. wrote: > Greetings All > > I'm trying to find a source for Steenbeck timing belts. I've tried the major > manufacturers and they seem to be an odd spec. > > 5mm pitch > 9mm width > Trapezoidal tooth profile > 53, 63, 83 & 98 teeth. > > Thanks > __ > Dean Allen > > Transit Audio Services Ltd. > Toronto, Ontario, Canada > 416-977-9740 > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] SCOOPIC 16 battery recalling (Spain/Europe)
The original replacement is either Varta 5/V350H or 5/CP300H Not sure because of overall length. Of course you'll need two. Google these numbers on the Varta site. Should be able to find it, maybe thru Conrad. Jean-Louis Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 19, 2016, at 4:15 AM, Mark Ostrowski wrote: > > > Dear colleagues, > > Does anyone know places to get battery packs for a Canon Scoopic 16 recalled > in Europe? Also, if someone out there has the battery box accessory, I would > be interested. > > Thanks, > > Mark > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Eyemo camera repair
I believe Steve passed away early this year. Yes, I wouldn't touch the spring without the special tooling. Jean-Louis Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 28, 2015, at 8:42 PM, "todd eacrett" wrote: > > > Jon, > > Steve's Cine Service in Vancouver if he (Steve Bereczky) is still in > business. He's been repairing and modifying Eyemos for years. > > Why do you think it's the spring? Does it keep winding with the spring never > getting tighter? Or does it seem fully wound but won't release? Former would > be the spring, latter might be a spring washer clutch thingy that's sheared > off. (I think it's designed to do that to protect the mechanism if it jams.) > > Disassembling an Eyemo is not that difficult; I've fixed a couple using an > old military repair manual that I found online. If the spring is not broken > there's no need to touch it and it stays securely in the body when you remove > the mechanism. > > Parts are pretty hard to find, but if it is the spring washer, Filmos used > the same one. > > It's been a couple years since I tore one apart, but I'm happy to help if I > can. > > Cheers, > > Todd > > > > On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 15:30:37 -0800, Jon Behrens wrote: > The spring is pretty much toast I think, I am wondering if I should try and > get it fixed or find another one . > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 28, 2015, at 11:21 AM, Jean-Louis Seguin wrote: > > > > > >> On 2015-11-28, at 11:46 AM, Jon Behrens wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hello everyone , can anyone suggest a place to for Eyemo camera repair > >> > >> Thanks > >> Jon > > > > What seems to be the problem with it? > > > > Jean-Louis > > > > ___ > > FrameWorks mailing list > > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Eyemo camera repair
If the spring is snapped, I see that new springs are available at about $150. If you can still wind it and release it, then the spring is not snapped. Maybe it just needs an overhaul. I think it make take special tool to install a new spring. Jean-Louis Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 28, 2015, at 6:30 PM, Jon Behrens wrote: > > The spring is pretty much toast I think, I am wondering if I should try and > get it fixed or find another one . > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 28, 2015, at 11:21 AM, Jean-Louis Seguin wrote: >> >> >>> On 2015-11-28, at 11:46 AM, Jon Behrens wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hello everyone , can anyone suggest a place to for Eyemo camera repair >>> >>> Thanks >>> Jon >> >> What seems to be the problem with it? >> >> Jean-Louis >> >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Eyemo camera repair
On 2015-11-28, at 11:46 AM, Jon Behrens wrote: > > Hello everyone , can anyone suggest a place to for Eyemo camera repair > > Thanks > Jon What seems to be the problem with it? Jean-Louis ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Removing turret arm from Bolex h16
One extra detail. The arm has to be folded over to cover the lens opening when doing this. Jean-Louis On 2015-08-13, at 10:29 AM, Pip Chodorov wrote: > Robbie, > It's very easy to remove. > You push in the retractable pin from the side. It's a bit like a toilet roll > dispenser. > There's a spring inside so be careful not to lose it. The best is to > reassemble it once you've removed it and to keep it with your camera > accessories in case you want to put it back. > Good luck! > Pip Chodorov > > > > At 0:26 + 13/08/15, robbie wrote: >> Hi, >> does anyone know proper/best method of removing the H-16 turret arm from the >> camera turret? >> im attempting to change camera in underwater housing and must remove this >> arm to it will fit. > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Replacement Xenon Lamp for Elmo
Best people to ask if you're in Montreal is Robert Film Services. http://www.robertfilmservices.com/ Jean-Louis Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 3, 2015, at 12:37 PM, cont...@benjaminrtaylor.com wrote: > > Hi list, > > Anyone have any good leads on where to get a replacement lamp for an Elmo > projector for a good price. > I'm in Montreal, Canada. > > The current lamp model is : USHIO 1000 W TYPE UXL 12SCA. > > After a quick search... > > There is this rather pricey option : > http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/83954-REG/Elmo_8156_2_UXL_12SCA_1000W_Xenon_Lamp.html > > Then there is this rather cheap option : > https://www.interlight.biz/light-bulb/ELMO-UXL-12SCA > > Anyone had experience with the latter or any other suggestions/warnings? > > Best, > > Benjamin R. Taylor > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Looking for 35/32 slitter
Looking for one of these beasts for a special project. Any leads appreciated. Thanks! Jean-Louis ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] AC lock projector
On 2015-06-01, at 5:47 PM, mariah.garn...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi! Does any one know what type of 16mm projector synchs to AC current? ie- > is an AC lock projector? I thought eiki ssl-0 were but now I'm not so sure > and it is basically un-googlable (Google thinks I'm looking for a clock > projector). > > Thanks! The projector has to have a AC synchronous motor. Very few do. I know the Elmo TRV-16 and Kodak Pageant telecine projectors have a sync motor. Projectors made to sync to mag playback units usually do. I don't think the Eiki SSL-O is one of them. Jean-Louis ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Seeking 16mm Hi-Con film stock
LIFT has 3378 at their store. JL Sent from my iPhone > On May 7, 2015, at 7:41 PM, alexisannehazelw...@gmail.com wrote: > > Greetings from San Francisco! > > I'm working on a rayogram experimental film for my senior thesis and am > looking for more "hi-con" film stock. I've been calling all the local shops, > searched eBay and craigslist, but can't find anyone who has this film stock. > > If anyone out there has a roll they'd like to sell, I would gladly buy it off > you :) Feel free to contact me via Frameworks, email or cell. > > Cheers, > > Alex Hazelwood > alexisannehazelw...@gmail.com > 8085425295 > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Battery for super-8 Beaulieu 4008ZM4
Never been compared to an Indy mechanic before. Thanks Dave! JL Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 22, 2015, at 4:30 PM, Dave Tetzlaff wrote: > > When looking to re-power any Beaulieu, remember the original batterie were > made from no-obsolete NiCad cells. If you're going to the expense and effort > of re-celling a battery, you sure don't want to wind up with NiCads -- low > capacity and the dreaded memory effect. At a minimum, you'd want NiMH cells, > preferably the low-discharge type used in Eneloop and other rechargeable > brands (I'm not sure if these are available in the sizes used in the original > batteries). With any NiMH celled battery, using the original Beaulieu charger > may be dicey, as the rspecs for NiMH charging are slightly different. No > loss, as the little wall-wart chargers are primitive and slow, and a good > charger for NiMH cells isn't that expensive and a great benefit to battery > readiness and maintenance. > > I don't know about the voltage(s) of the Super 8 batteries, or whether they > even can be repacked with standard size cells. The fatter R16 batteries can > be re-done with AA cells, and the smaller standard ones with AAA cells. > Typically, you wouldn't use the regular kind sold for flashlights cameras and > such, but ones made for building packs, which come with solder tabs attached. > (Soldering leads onto the bare ends of a standard rechargeable battery is not > recommended for amateurs.) As it happens, R16 batteries are 7.2V, which is > the same as the battery packs used in many RC toys, so you can pick up a > charger at a hobby shop -- it's easy enough to take the plug end off the > original Beaulieu charger and wire it to the new one, or get a compatible > plug at an electronic shop (3 pin DIN for the R16) and preserve the original > charger for whatever. > > As Chuck notes, if you can live with a wire running from the camera to your > pocket, making-up an external battery pack is the least expensive and most > flexible way to go. It's an easy DIY project (you should be able to snooker a > friend if you find soldering too intimidating yourself). Not to take business > away from Jean-Louis or Phil, but those guys' time and expertise are waay > above the necessary skill level -- it's like hiring a Indy car mechanic to > change your oil... > > >> On Apr 22, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Jean-Louis Seguin wrote: >> >> A new battery is no less than $200 USD. Plus you might Need a new charger. > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Battery for super-8 Beaulieu 4008ZM4
A new battery is no less than $200 USD. Plus you might Need a new charger. JL Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 22, 2015, at 12:19 PM, Ken Paul Rosenthal > wrote: > > Super 8 Sound in Burbank, CA sells *new* battery packs for the Beaulieu 4008. > Hopefully, it will work for the 4008ZM4. If not, I imagine they'd have a > solution. Ask for Phil. Here's the link: > > http://www.pro8mm.com/Merchant5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=01&Product_Code=ACC_POWERKIT1&Category_Code=accessories > > Also, not terribly long ago, around the turn of the century, the Widescreen > Centre in London made new belt battery packs for super 8 Beaulieu cameras. > However I just did a search on their (rather ungainly) website and could find > nothing. You might wish to write to them. > > Ken > www.kenpaulrosenthal.com > www.whisperrapture.com > www.maddancementalhealthfilmtrilogy.com > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Battery for super-8 Beaulieu 4008ZM4
Irv Higdon passed away in 2013. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 21, 2015, at 8:08 PM, "Roger D. Wilson" > wrote: > > Hi Fred, > > I have one that was built and sold by a guy named Irving Higdon. I do not > have a phone number but I believe he is in Granada Hills California? Sorry > cant be of more help. > > Roger > > Sent from Outlook > > > > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2015 at 4:48 PM -0700, "Fred Camper" > wrote: > > I have one of these cameras. I haven't used it in decades. The batteries > it came with are presumably dead and unusable? I believe I heard of > someone who manufactures an alternative for this camera. Does anyone > know more? Thanks in advance for any help. > > Fred Camper > Chicago > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Battery for super-8 Beaulieu 4008ZM4
The original pack can be re-celled. Or if you really need more capacity, you can power it from an external power supply. I offer these services in Canada. Jean-Louis Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 21, 2015, at 7:27 PM, Fred Camper wrote: > > I have one of these cameras. I haven't used it in decades. The batteries it > came with are presumably dead and unusable? I believe I heard of someone who > manufactures an alternative for this camera. Does anyone know more? Thanks in > advance for any help. > > Fred Camper > Chicago > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 expiration dates?
On 2015-04-03, at 8:57 PM, Alan wrote: > Hello all, I am having a hard time decoding the information on the side of > some Super8 film I have (3 rolls of recent color negative, and 3 rolls of > somewhat older Ektachrome). I'm trying to figure out if there is an > expiration date somewhere in the printed matter in there, and feeling rather > dim. > > Best, > Bob > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks I believe Kodak used to put expiration dates on super-8 products sold under the "consumer" label. Since super8 is now part of the regular "professional" catalog, there are no expiration dates on these products. There is a manufacturer's code on the box which tells Kodak from which batch the roll comes from. If you call Kodak and give them that number, they should be able to give you an approximate date of manufacture. Jean-Louis ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] bolex/camera repair training
Hi Judith, I have been repairing cameras professionally since 1980. I graduated from the long defunct National Camera camera repair course. The first few years, I did mostly still cameras. Since 1989, movie cameras exclusively, 16mm and some super8. My speciality is Bolex 16mm equipment. It takes many years to become really proficient in this field. It also takes tools, parts, special instruments and test equipment. If you want to start on your own, you can download some of the original course materials from National Camera at this site: https://onedrive.live.com/?cid=d4b54f69523e88b5&id=D4B54F69523E88B5%21112 Study them and find yourself a couple of old cameras to practice on and dig in. Jean-Louis Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 19, 2015, at 3:55 PM, judith Philips wrote: > > Dear Frameworkers, > > I'm interested in learning camera maintenance and repair. My main interest > is in bolex cameras, though a working knowledge of still cameras would > certainly be useful. > > Does anyone have any leads, or advice on how best to acquire these skills? > (through apprentice ships, training programs, etc.) > > If so, please contact me off list. I'd be very grateful for any knowledge > you might like to share. > > Cheers, > Judith > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 to 35mm blowup?
Our glorious tax dollars at work! Jean-Louis Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 18, 2015, at 8:25 AM, Amanda Christie > wrote: > > I was just at the National Archives of Canada Preservation Centre this week, > and they have AMAZING optical blow up facilities. > they have all the gates (not just regular 8, super8, 16mm, super 16mm, and > 35mm, but also 9mm, 9.5 mm, and 28 mm). As well as a contact printer and > their own lab. > > Sadly, their facilities can't be accessed by the public, it's only for > working with their own archives and the collection... and double-plus sadly > there is not a lot of support for acquiring art or experimental films > hopefully that will change soon currently most of the films they acquire > are anything produced through Telefilm Canada or the Canadian Media Fund, > because there are infrastructures in place for all works made through those > programs to be automatically acquired by the National Archives... however, > there are currently no infrastructures in place or policies for regularly > acquiring independent or experimental films... they do have some... but it's > apparently, convincing them to acquire the works can be tricky. > > But at least those facilities exist! > They also have a few rooms full of intercines (including one that was > modified to do 9mm and 28mm)... all of their gear is super clean and in > working order. > > > Amanda Dawn Christie > > 506-871-2062 > www.amandadawnchristie.ca > ama...@amandadawnchristie.ca > ___ > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Subbing on film
On 2015-03-09, at 1:40 PM, Roger D. Wilson wrote: > Thanks Jean-Louis, > > I will try to track down a copy of this book. I did find this diagram on > kodaks site that briefly mentions subbing but does not go into any details. > > http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploadedFiles/US_plugins_acrobat_en_motion_newsletters_filmEss_04_How-film-makes-image.pdf > > Roger > Probably, it is a "closely guarded industrial secret". JL ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Subbing on film
On 2015-03-09, at 12:12 PM, Roger D. Wilson wrote: > Does anyone know what film manufacturers use as their subbing layer on film > stock so that the emulsion adheres to the base? > > Thanks > > Roger > > Sent from Outlook Roger, I briefly scanned my copy of "Making Kodak Film" by Robert L. Shanebrook (highly recommended, I might add) and I don't see any particular preparation to the increase adhesiveness. It says that after the gelatin is applied, it is immediately cooled, so this may be the trick to adhesion. Cheers, Jean-Louis___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Jean-Louis Seguin retired?
Thanks for that, Nicholas. Yes, I'm still repairing these fine movie making instruments. Jean-Louis Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 27, 2015, at 4:16 PM, 40 Frames wrote: > > > Thank you. > > Alain > >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Nicholas Kovats wrote: >> Alain, >> >> Just the Concordia side of life. :) He can still be reached at >> bolext...@gmail.com. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Nicholas >> >> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:38 PM, 40 Frames wrote: >> > >> > Jean-Louis Seguin... did you retire from Bolex camera repair, or just from >> > your position at Concordia? >> > >> > Best, >> > Alain >> > >> > -- >> > 40 FRAMES >> > Portland, Oregon USA >> > >> > +1 503 231 6548 >> > www.40frames.org >> > www.16mmdirectory.org >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > FrameWorks mailing list >> > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> > >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > > -- > 40 FRAMES > Portland, Oregon USA > > +1 503 231 6548 > www.40frames.org > www.16mmdirectory.org > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] wide angle projector lense for a Kodak CT1000
How wide do you need? There is a 38mm, a 25mm and a 12.5mm I believe. There are a few on eBay right now. Jean-Louis On 2015-02-17, at 9:20 AM, Dominic Angerame wrote: > Does anyone know where I can purchase such an item. There used to be a Buhl > lense for both this Kodak Projector and other slot loads models. > > Thanks > > Dominic > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] VS motor for Arriflex S camera
I have one, Jon. Email me at: bolext...@gmail.com Jean-Louis Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 10, 2015, at 10:16 PM, Jon Behrens wrote: > > Hello Frameworkers > I was wondering if any of you have any leads on where one would go to > purchase a VS motor for and a Arriflex S camera . I have looked on eBay and > the Internet a little bit but very little has turned up > > Any help would be great > Best Regards > Jon Behrens > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Bolex H16 Rex3 crystal sync motor
On 2014-10-22, at 1:36 PM, Bernd Luetzeler wrote: > Dear Frameworkers! > > I am looking for a crystal sync motor for my Bolex H16 Rex3 which has a 1:8 > shaft with 4mm diameter. > Ideal would be a TSC Revolution motor with Single-frame/Time Lapse + Crystal > Sync, since that would just offer all sorts of speed modes. > But I’m totally unable to find one and in the meantime I have found out that > some Tobin TCS motors would also do the job. > So I did some research and found out that the following models could fit: TXM > 10, TXM 10B, TXM 26, TXM 26B, TXM 26C, TXM 26Ce > So, if anyone in this world wants to get rid of his motor - either Revolution > or Tobin, please contact me off list: fi...@gmx.de > > cheers > > Bernd > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks Check this out: http://www.cinematography.com/index.php?showtopic=65279&hl= JL___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Bolex EL Power question
If you're not using the camera often, you can power it from a 12V lantern battery available everywhere for around $15. They are not rechargeable but rated at 7Ah, so you have plenty of power for hours and hours of running. Jean-Louis On 2014-09-19, at 11:40 AM, Dominic Angerame wrote: > Thanks all for your suggestions. I had the battery fully charged yesterday > and tried to run the camera. The camera would not pull a 100 ft roll of film. > I just heard a clicking sound sort of like a Rex5 doing single frames. > However, the camera was on 18fps. This morning I plug in the battery once > more and the camera lite indicated no charge. So it appears to be a batery > issue. I have not used this camera in more than two years. I never realized > that a NiCad battery would just go bad when not used often. I guess its like > a battery in a car going bad if not turned over in a long time. Is that > correct and forgive my ignorance. I am just not up to speed, so to speak, > with electronics. > > > Dominic > > On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote: > What does the charge meter do when you turn the camera on? > Don't worry about what it does when the camera isn't rolling, worry about > what it does when the motor is on. > > If you have left that AGM battery on the shelf for a year or two without > keeping it charged, it will be time to replace it. > --scott > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] date coding on kodak s-8mm cartridges
If you call Kodak, they should be able to give you an approximate date. At least they used to. Jean-Louis Sent from my iPod > On Sep 9, 2014, at 3:00 AM, Marco Poloni wrote: > > Thanks Jean-Louis. > > I found this factsheet, but not very useful as to what's written ON > the package. I guess I just have to trust Kodak's practice of doing > good business. > > http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploadedFiles/Guide_to_Identifying_Year_of_Manufacture.pdf > > Best, > Marco > >> On 9 September 2014 03:27, Jean-Louis Seguin wrote: >> Nowhere in those batch numbers is there any clue to the manufacturing date >> or expiry date. Only Kodak would know for sure. >> >> Look at p.11 of the Kodak Motion Picture Catalog for an explanation of those >> numbers. >> >> Jean-Louis >> >> Sent from my iPod >> >>> On Sep 8, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Marco Poloni wrote: >>> >>> Dear Frameworkers, >>> >>> I received a large batch of Kodak Vision 3 200T/7213 super-8mm >>> cartridges for a project. I am trying to understand the expiry date >>> coding to be sure the batch is right. I never had issues with Kodak >>> but it's a large project so I'd like to feel safe. >>> >>> On one side of each cartridge there's a production code that runs as >>> follows: >>> PE: 01760831 A >>> 7213 065 016.02 19 >>> >>> The last two digits run from 19 to 25, suggesting that they are days. >>> 016 seems to me to stand for 2016, i.e. expiry date 2016.02.19 >>> >>> Am I correct? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Marco >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> marco poloni >>> usedomer strasse 8 >>> d – 13355 berlin >>> gsm de +49.163.6294080 >>> gsm ch +41.78.6322028 >>> skype marcopoloni >>> ___ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> ___ >> FrameWorks mailing list >> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > > > -- > > > > marco poloni > usedomer strasse 8 > d – 13355 berlin > gsm de +49.163.6294080 > gsm ch +41.78.6322028 > skype marcopoloni > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] date coding on kodak s-8mm cartridges
Nowhere in those batch numbers is there any clue to the manufacturing date or expiry date. Only Kodak would know for sure. Look at p.11 of the Kodak Motion Picture Catalog for an explanation of those numbers. Jean-Louis Sent from my iPod > On Sep 8, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Marco Poloni wrote: > > Dear Frameworkers, > > I received a large batch of Kodak Vision 3 200T/7213 super-8mm > cartridges for a project. I am trying to understand the expiry date > coding to be sure the batch is right. I never had issues with Kodak > but it's a large project so I'd like to feel safe. > > On one side of each cartridge there's a production code that runs as follows: > PE: 01760831 A > 7213 065 016.02 19 > > The last two digits run from 19 to 25, suggesting that they are days. > 016 seems to me to stand for 2016, i.e. expiry date 2016.02.19 > > Am I correct? > > Thanks! > > Marco > -- > > > > marco poloni > usedomer strasse 8 > d – 13355 berlin > gsm de +49.163.6294080 > gsm ch +41.78.6322028 > skype marcopoloni > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Film Stocks to be Discontinued, Announced in December
Current manufacturers (Other than Kodak): Agfa Orwo Adox Kahl What format do you need? B&W color, negative or reversal? Jean-Louis Sent from my iPod > On Aug 30, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Fred Smith wrote: > > I'll have to admit, I know of no other film manufacturer other than > Kodak, probably because they have dominated the US market for years. Any > recomendation on how to locate the others for those who are like me? > >> On 8/30/2014 12:53 PM, Jean-Louis Seguin wrote: >> >> Cheap shot? Maybe. I'm just so disappointed in Kodak, personally. >> >> I meet filmmakers all the time and it's surprising how many completely >> ignore the fact that there are other manufacturers in the world apart from >> Kodak that produce motion picture film stock. Some are truly amazed when I >> mention this to them. >> True, when it comes to color negative stocks, Kodak are the only source at >> the moment. For everything else, there are options out there > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Film Stocks to be Discontinued, Announced in December
On 2014-08-30, at 2:05 PM, Roger Wilson wrote: > Hi Jean-Louis, > > I would be interested in hearing more about these other options for b&w. I > know of Orwo but I find it hard to obtain their stocks here in Canada unless > you know of somewhere other then LIFT in Toronto? LIFT carries a few of there > stocks but not all of them. > > > > Roger D. Wilson Hi Roger, http://www.orwona.com/ The site says they're out of UN54 but the N74 negative is listed as in stock. Cheers, Jean-Louis ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Film Stocks to be Discontinued, Announced in December
Cheap shot? Maybe. I'm just so disappointed in Kodak, personally. I meet filmmakers all the time and it's surprising how many completely ignore the fact that there are other manufacturers in the world apart from Kodak that produce motion picture film stock. Some are truly amazed when I mention this to them. True, when it comes to color negative stocks, Kodak are the only source at the moment. For everything else, there are options out there, luckily. Jean-Louis On 2014-08-30, at 12:21 PM, Edward Choi wrote: > I'm a little confused about the discontinuation of 7203 and 7207 in 100' > rolls. Does it really save them that much at the margins when they're > continuing to manufacture the stock itself and offer it in larger quantities? > If someone who knows more about the way their manufacturing chain is set up > could explain this, and perhaps disabuse me of my naivety, I would be most > grateful! > > edo > > > On Sat, Aug 30, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Pablo Marin wrote: > Although I agree with many of your points, Jean-Louis, I think that implying > that Kodak doesn't have a "firm commitment to analog filmmaking" is kind of a > cheap shot... when the issue is more complicated than that. > > Would hate to be mistaken for a capitalist/industry supporter here but the > fact is I´m kind of afraid of what some of these "committed" firms will start > charging for film once the big old dinosaurs are gone... not to mention I > don't see a discount price for students being offered in most of these > devoted manufacturers... > > All best, > Pablo. > > > On Saturday, August 30, 2014 12:52 PM, Jean-Louis Seguin > wrote: > > > > I wouldn't be too dismayed at the disappearance of Tri-X. > Both ADOX and ORWO produce black and white reversal that is at least equal in > quality to Tri-X. The new ADOX CHS-II in Super8 has received rave reviews > since it's introduction and most users seem to find it superior to Tri-X. > > I would prefer to support companies that have a firm commitment to analog > filmmaking rather then those that can't wait to pull the plug on everything. > > Jean-Louis > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Film Stocks to be Discontinued, Announced in December
I wouldn't be too dismayed at the disappearance of Tri-X. Both ADOX and ORWO produce black and white reversal that is at least equal in quality to Tri-X. The new ADOX CHS-II in Super8 has received rave reviews since it's introduction and most users seem to find it superior to Tri-X. I would prefer to support companies that have a firm commitment to analog filmmaking rather then those that can't wait to pull the plug on everything. Jean-Louis Sent from my iPod > On Aug 30, 2014, at 8:53 AM, Alex Balkam wrote: > > Hey team Frameworks, > > I just thought I would share news that I received from Kodak... not sure if > the list already knew about this and it is repetition but I felt it warranted > sharing. > > Probably in December Kodak will be announcing the discontinuation of a > number of motion picture film products. The products I know about are: > > 7207 & 7203 100’ > Tri-X 400’ > 5222 1000’ > 7222 100’ 400’ > > There may be more than I am aware of. This is in addition to the sad news > about Ektachrome and Hi Con. > > It may be time for Frameworks to consider contacting (or choosing a > Frameworks representative to contact) the higher ups at Kodak to express the > importance that the less industrial, less Hollywood products really need to > be maintained during this challenging time in order that we can continue to > expose young filmmakers and the public to the merits and beauty of film. All > of us on this list help Kodak in various ways by creating our works on their > film stock, and this in turn helps to ensure films presence moving forward in > the motion picture world - whether it be workshops with kids who will become > the filmmakers of the future, experimental cinema or the fine arts/gallery > settings, our efforts help Kodak and we need to make sure we are pleading our > case that they maintain the products we use. Mainly, I am speaking about > Tri-X in 100' 16mm and S8... I was told they originally were going to > discontinue the 100' loads of Tri-X 16mm. Thankfully, enough people (perhaps > film schools and educators) sent letters to Kodak complaining that this would > essentially hinder there ability to promote film and inspire new generations > to appreciate it, so Kodak is continuing its sale for now. > > Perhaps we need a concerted effort from Frameworks to speak to Kodak about > the merits of maintaining introductory, educational and smaller gauge film > products during this time. I am thinking there must be some way to make them > realize that the only way we will have Tarantinos lobbying major production > companies to guarantee Kodak contracts in the future is to be able to show > the next generation what it means to work on film. > > Thanks! > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] MovieStuff Retro 8 Film Scanner
The Small Gauge Film Forum on the filmshooting.com website has many comments from users and discussion about the Retro-8 machine. Check it out. Jean-Louis Sent from my iPod > On Aug 20, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Alex Balkam wrote: > > Hey Frameworks - > > Not sure if this product has been covered yet on the list. Figured I would > see if anyone out there has experience (positive or negative) with this item: > > http://www.moviestuff.tv/ > http://www.moviestuff.tv/moviestuff_home.html > > The Moviestuff 'Retro 8' Film Scanner for Super 8 (there are also versions > for 9.5 and 16). > > It looks cool... albeit the resolution seems to be potentially too low for > some applications. I have found 720 to sometimes be a flattering resolution > for Super 8 as it can roll off the grain a bit, but I don't think it is ideal > for all applications. Personally I really want that grain. I do like the idea > of having a coffee while this unit transfers my Super 8 film on my kitchen > table in 4.5 mins though. > > What do we all think? > > > Alex Balkam > looker at pictures > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Adaptor Sources for Super 8mm and Reg 8mm viewers
I have quite a few of these. Contact me at: bolext...@gmail.com Jean-Louis Sent from my iPod > On Aug 5, 2014, at 8:54 PM, Info wrote: > > Hello all: > I'm searching for a source for adaptors for Super 8mm and Reg 8mm hand > cranked viewers and reels. > Any suggestions appreciated! > > > > > Best regards, > > Stephen Parr > Director > > Oddball Film+Video > www.oddballfilm.com > Oddball Films > www.oddballfilms.blogspot.com > > 275 Capp Street > San Francisco, CA 94110 > Phone 415.558.8112 > Fax 415.558.8116 > > > For a link to our latest projects: > oddballfilm.com/projects_2013.pdf > http://letterboxd.com/oddballfilm/lists/ > > Follow us on facebook and Twitter! > http://www.facebook.com/oddballfilm > http://twitter.com/Oddballfilms > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Double super8 film
Hello Frameworkers, For your information, I have very recently made inquiries with Kodak Canada and Kodak USA about the issue of a special order of DS8. The stock chosen for discussion was Vision3 50D color negative. While no specific quantities were discussed, a starting price of $25,000 USD has been mentioned for such an order. Based on current Kodak pricing structure, I estimate that this is the conservative equivalent of approximately 4 feet of DS8 stock or 400 100 ft. rolls of DS8 on daylight spool. Can all the world’s users of DS8 consume this amount of stock in the next two to three years? The final price you may ask? Estimate from $70 to $80 for 100 ft. spools of DS8. Since there are no DS8 color stocks on the market at this time except Kahl Germany’s offerings to compare prices with, we can compare with the price of four 50 foot cartridges of 50D. Kodak’s catalog price is currently $23.60. You can do the math. Also, further efforts can be made to convince Kodak to agree to a lower minimum quantity for an order or perhaps to split the order into various negative stocks. One last advantage about DS8 stock is that, if need be, at any time you can have the film slit and produce regular super8 stock for loading in standard refillable cartridges. If Kodak would deliver DS8 stock, it will be of perfect (e.g. Kodak level) quality for sure. I would appreciate hearing from anyone who would like to use the DS8 negative stocks and perhaps give me an idea of their potential usage. Thank you! Jean-Louis Seguin___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Looking to buy 16mm Camera
Hi Nicholas, This is Jean-Louis Seguin from Montreal. I have a number of Bolexes and Arriflexes for sale. The cameras are cheap these days but the lenses have become more expensive. If you would like more information, you can email me at: bolext...@gmail.com Jean-Louis Sent from my iPod > On May 21, 2014, at 6:53 PM, Nicholas Bunch wrote: > > I'm looking to buy a 16mm camera in the Northeast United States. I'm a film > student, recent graduate of SMFA. I'm traveling to Mexico to shoot a film for > 4 months. Now that I don't have access to equipment I need to buy a 16mm > camera. My budget is $1000-$1,500 and I just need a good camera. I would love > Bolex or Scoopic but would also be down for an Arri S. I'm based in Boston > but could also easily make it to NY to pick up a camera. > > - > > Nick Bunch > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] increasing bulb brightness 16mm
Also, if you are controlling the venue, take a good look at the screen material and its reflectance. A long narrow hall could benefit from a directional type of screen. Jean-Louis On 2014-05-08, at 10:55 AM, Alex MacKenzie wrote: > Does anyone have any expertise/experience around increasing bulb wattage over > and above that recommended by projector manufacturer? > I want to brighten a 24V/250W 16mm bulb setup, but I obviously don’t want any > electrical fires or overheating internally. Is there a breathing area where > little if anything would need to be changed internally that is safe? (And no, > I don’t want any water-cooled, heat-sinked LED setup, already researched that > and it is a bad idea on many fronts.) > Thanks. > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] increasing bulb brightness 16mm
You can have the shutter replaced a 2-bladed one or modify your three-bladed shutter by trimming the two anti-flicker blades down to the minimum which is basically a little over the height of a frame. Jean-Louis On 2014-05-08, at 10:55 AM, Alex MacKenzie wrote: > Does anyone have any expertise/experience around increasing bulb wattage over > and above that recommended by projector manufacturer? > I want to brighten a 24V/250W 16mm bulb setup, but I obviously don’t want any > electrical fires or overheating internally. Is there a breathing area where > little if anything would need to be changed internally that is safe? (And no, > I don’t want any water-cooled, heat-sinked LED setup, already researched that > and it is a bad idea on many fronts.) > Thanks. > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] BOLEX H16 "Super 16mm" lens options.
Which Vario-Switar do you have? The 16-100mm gives fairly good coverage. Not so for the 18-86mm and 12.5-100mm. Cheers, Jean-Louis On 2014-04-28, at 5:31 AM, Mark Ostrowski wrote: > > > Dear All, > > I have a Bolex H16 with a Super 16mm-widened gate. I have been using the > Vario-Kern zoom lens. My problem is that the lens vignettes when > shooting wider than 26mm. I am looking for a lighter-more compact > alternative(s), thinking of traveling, both zoom and prime that will not > vignette on the S16 format. > I am assuming I will have to go C Mount for which I already have an adapter. > > I am not sure if vignetting will be an issue whenever going wider than 26mm. > The 26mm Kern lens looks good but pricewise impossible. > I saw this lens: that looks good but again don’t know how it works with S16: > Schneider Kreuznach Variogon 1.8 12.5 75 C > > > Any comments appreciated. > > Thanks > >> 4 > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Pageant 250 AMP SCHEMATICS
Have you looked at the Film Tech site? There's a manual for the AV-126 http://www.film-tech.com/warehouse/manuals/KODAKAV126TRSERVICE.pdf Maybe it's the similar? Jean-Louis On Thursday, April 24, 2014, wrote: > Does anyone have or know where I can find the schematics for all of the > (slightly) different amplifier models for a Pageant 250 (any model)? > > Thanks! > > Isaac Sherman > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] 16mm Moviola for sale, Boston Area
I'll let you know if anything crops up. Jean-Louis Sent from my iPod > On Mar 23, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Roger Wilson wrote: > > Im dying to get my hands on a 16mm flatbed edit table so if anyone ever hears > of one in the Ottawa Canada area going cheap please let me know. I still edit > all my films on film. > > > Roger D. Wilson > Film Scientist > 613 324 - 7504 > rogerdwil...@sympatico.ca > http://www.rogerdwilson.ca > > Without failure you can never achieve success. I have based my process and my > career as an experimental film artist on this statement; and I welcome it as > it pushes me forward as an artist to try something different, something new. > > > From: sgeo...@ucsd.edu > To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com > Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2014 23:55:53 + > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 16mm Moviola for sale, Boston Area > > Jeff, > I just passed on a Moviola 4 plate with the good prism for $200 > Sherman > On Mar 22, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Jeff Kreines wrote: > > > On Mar 22, 2014, at 2:42 PM, Ethan Berry wrote: > > I am brokering the sale of a Moviola 6 plate flatbed editing table. Model > M84 in working condition. Currently in storage north of Boston, photo's > available. Asking price is $2,200. > > > The M84 is a 4-plate, the M86 was a 6-plate. Moviola flatbeds are very hard > to maintain (parts hard to get) and usually are given away — these days > people often give late-model Steenbecks away, and they are much more usable. > > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > > Sherman George > sgeo...@ucsd.edu > 858-229-4368 > > > > > ___ FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] 16mm synchronizers with sound
Somewhere in my junk, I have some stand alone optical readers that you plug into a sqwawk box. I don't recall they were ever tested but you're welcome to have them. Jean-Louis Sent from my iPod > On Jan 25, 2014, at 2:34 PM, Scott Dorsey wrote: > > 1. No, as far as I know, nobody has made a synchronizer with an optical head. > Magnasync did make outboard optical heads that would plug into a squawk box > for editing; they did not have any flywheel. I never saw one in real life, > only at trade shows. > > 2. Yes, you can run the optical head out of a projector outside the projector. > Supply 4V to light the exciter lamp (a 5V power supply with two series > diodes to drop the voltage is a common solution) and take the solar cell > output into a microphone preamp. It will take about 40 dB to bring the > signal up to line level. > > 3. In the seventies there were a lot of JAN projector soundheads available on > the surplus market. I tried to make an editing device using one, but I found > that without the proper flywheel arrangement the flutter was so high that > voices were almost unintelligible, and with the proper flywheel I could not > start and stop on a dime (as is needed for editing) without scratching the > hell out of the film. > > 4. If you have a synchronizer, why do you need optical sound anyway? Just > take > your optical track, dub it to fullcoat, and run it in parallel with the other > stuff. The miracle of mag is that it's easy to put anything you want on it > any time. > --scott > > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] 16mm projectors for use in Central Asia
If you can get a hold of a Bauer P8 TS universal, they work at all voltages and cycles. Jean-Louis Sent from my iPod > On Jan 12, 2014, at 5:04 PM, John Davis <0johndav...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Ekrem, > > Thanks so much for the info! I totally missed these… have been scouring Ebay > for some time now. This is the perfect (if not heavy) solution! > > Cheers!!! > > jd > > From: Ekrem Serdar > Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List > Date: Sunday, January 12, 2014 1:23 PM > To: Experimental Film Discussion List > Subject: Re: [Frameworks] 16mm projectors for use in Central Asia > > Also - as they use older lamps, I presume you'll need a pricier electric > converter too that can handle the wattage. Again, probably not the best > option, but if you're in a bind. > > >> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:21 PM, Ekrem Serdar wrote: >> Hi John, >> >> While this will definitely be a heavier option, one I know for sure are >> these Telex models which you can get brand new with a zoom lens. I really >> like them, they're nice and gentle and they have a frequency option >> (military projector). >> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-TELEX-16mm-Sound-Projector-Stock-NEW-/281229178674?pt=US_Movie_Slide_Projectors&hash=item417a90b732 >> >> But as said, heavy as hell. I feel like there's appropriate Eiki models >> are out there too (though I can't think of the model numbers), but if you >> can't find any, it's an option. >> >> >>> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 3:17 PM, John Davis <0johndav...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I am traveling as an instructor/visiting artist for a month to Dushanbe, >>> Tajikistan end of March to assist in some found footage workshops for >>> regional artists to work with a 16mm Soviet film archive there. I need to >>> obtain two projectors that I can fly with me from California for use as >>> transfer/viewing/exhibition machines. >>> >>> My question is if anyone knows any good projectors that can handle the >>> transformation from 120v to 220v. Last time I did this I brought a generic >>> B&H 16mm with me to Moldova and a transformer was rigged for it. Although >>> it worked, the footage ran slower and the machine got hot - didn't fail, >>> but always seemed on the edge. My understanding is the frequency of the >>> motor can't tolerate the transforming of current, and you need to have a >>> projector optimized for 120 - 220v range at 40 - 60hz. Most don't, but a >>> few were made to. The ones I know can are the B&H 1698 A or B, B&H 1680, >>> B&H 2580 AX, and the Telex 2251. I don't which Eikei's did, but I'm sure >>> there are a few. >>> >>> If anyone has any experience with this, or has any advice (or equipment >>> they want to sell me) I am all ears! >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> John Davis >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> FrameWorks mailing list >>> FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com >>> https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks >> >> >> >> -- >> ekrem serdar >> austin, tx > > > > -- > ekrem serdar > austin, tx > ___ FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 Work Prints
On 2013-07-24, at 2:26 AM, ben.weinst...@mindspring.com wrote: > Hey I was wondering since they dont make reversal film anymore, do labs make > super 8 work prints now? > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks Andec labs in Berlin is the only known provider of this service. Jean-Louis___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 Colour Reversal Film/Ektachrome 100D
On 2013-04-04, at 9:01 AM, Imogen Pring wrote: > Dear all, > > Would anybody be able to help me out and tell me where I can buy online some > colour reversal film for Super8? I have always used Ektachrome 100D but am > struggling to find anywhere that sells it now at a reasonable price, or even > sells it! I live in the UK and so if you know of anywhere that actually sells > it in the UK that would be even better! > > Thanks so much. > > Best wishes, > Imogen > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks Try: www.gaugefilm.co.uk Cheers, Jean-Louis___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Eiki Xenon Repair?
On 2013-02-26, at 1:04 PM, Adam Paradis wrote: > Hi All, > I have a 16mm Eiki EX 3500A Xenon projector. When projecting, the frame is > brighter on one side than the other. I am trying to find information on > realigning/centering the bulb to even out the brightness but can not seem to > find a repair manual online or information on doing so. If anybody knows how, > has tips, recommendations or suggestions on how to correct this issue, your > help would be greatly appreciated. > I am experienced in repairing Eiki projectors, but don't want to start > messing with my xenon without doing some research first. > Thanks for your help, > AP > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks Try this one: http://www.film-tech.com/warehouse/manuals/EIKIEX4000PSERVICE.pdf It's pretty much the same thing. Jean-Louis___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Analogue Film
On 2012-12-16, at 11:53 AM, Robert Schaller wrote: > Thanks for this, Ms Kino! > > Both Cinevia and Kahl make 16mm as well as S8. Unfortunately for those of us > not in Germany or even the EU, international shipping makes buying these > stocks prohibitive. Is anyone in the US importing them? > It has been discussed in a few filmmaking forums that what John Schwind sells under the label Cinechrome is in fact Kahl film. Kahl's website also lists John Schwind as their U.S. distribution partner. Jean-Louis ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] JK Optical Printer
Looking for spare 16mm and 8mm gates for the JK Optical Printer. Even defective items will be considered. Jean-Louis Montreal, Canada ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Interesting find
Hi Nicholas, Just stumbled upon this patent for a cartridge holding either UP8 2.8 or 3.1 http://www.google.com/patents/US3687532.pdf Obviously nobody ever built a camera around it, but fascinating nevertheless. Cheers, Jean-Louis___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Seeking recommendations for service on Beaulieu cameras
On 2012-10-27, at 9:13 AM, David Tetzlaff wrote: >> What kind of Beaulieu is it? > > Actually, I have a clockwork R-16 that seems to have a bad spring motor. The > run is really short and it poops out at the end instead of running strong > until it stops. I was hoping to find someone who specializes in Beaulieau > service because I have a number of non-working or partial R-16 electric > bodies, which I'm hoping have some value to a repair shop for parts that > could be bartered against the cost of servicing the clockwork camera. > > I know of Bernie's reputation, but I'd guess he doesn't do enough Beaulieu > work to be interested in something like that, yes? Hi David, It is likely your R16 just needs a good CLA. When the shutter mechanism is gummed up, it opposes a huge resistance to the spring motor. Once I see what you have, I might be interested in your Beaulieu bits and pieces in exchange for the work. Cheers, Jean-Louis ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Traders? Sellers? Broken Scoopics? Boulex Lenses?
On 2012-07-31, at 2:30 PM, alex.mccar...@gmail.com wrote: > Hey, > > So I've had a Scoopic 16M with a jacked up lens and a Bolex Rex-5 without > lenses for awhile and I think it's about time to solve either problem. > > Does anyone have: > A broken Scoopic with a well cared for lens? > > OR > > A need for a Scoopic with a jacked up lens (that still takes great pictures > most of the time) and either C-Mount lenses or enough cash to buy some in > exchange? > > Alex Could you please explain the term "jacked-up lens". What does this mean? Jean-Louis ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Perfectone motor
On 2012-04-07, at 11:11 AM, Mariah Garnett wrote: > Does anyone know what the difference between s tobin crystal synch and a > perfectone motor is? Will a perfectone motor hold synch? Does it have to be > plugged into a nagra or something to do so? > > Thanks! If you're referring to the MST motor for the Bolex made by Perfectone, no, it is not a crystal sync motor. The Film Group is known to offer sync conversions of these motors. http://www.webtfg.com/sync0.htm Cheers, Jean-Louis ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Tobin intervelometer power supply?
That big heavy battery belt probably contains D-sized NiCd cells rated at 4Ah. Nowaday, you can get subC NiMH cells rated at 4.2Ah. A pack made up of 10 of these cells measures only 11.3 cm x 9.1 cm x 2.3 cm and weighs 1.55 lb. I have used these myself: http://www.all-battery.com/12v4200mahflatnimhbatterypackforairsoftgunanddcpower-1.aspx They will deliver the same power as your old battery belt. You just have to get yourself an adapter made to 4-pin XLR. Cheers, Jean-Louis ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] digital Bolex - Well, there isnt one.
On 2012-03-14, at 11:06 AM, Alistair Stray wrote: > In the behind the scenes video for shooting 'one small step', which they > claim to have shot with the prototype, you can see that their shooting with a > Prosilica GX2300 machine vision camera. > > http://www.alliedvisiontec.com/uploads/pics/Prosilica-GX.jpg > > and from their BTS video, though there are other shots of it in there. > > http://img162.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=33483_BTS_onesmallstep_122_388lo.jpg > Good detective work. Maybe in the guts of this Digital Bolex lies a Prosilica GX or some model from AVT! Cheers, Jean-Louis___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Ektachrome RIP????
On 2012-03-02, at 10:32 AM, Beebe,Roger W wrote: > Does Fuji make Velvia in super 8? I'm supposed to be headed to Berlin in May > with a bunch of students to make super 8 films for 5 weeks, and it's going to > be a big bummer if all we have to shoot on by then is Tri-X. (Or will we > even have that?) > > Is Velvia an E-6 process? I'd like to be able to hand process the > stuff--just finally learned how to hand-process Ekta last summer. > > This is really bumming me out. > Roger Velvia is super8 catridges is available from http://www.spectrafilmandvideo.com in the USA and http://www.wittner-cinetec.com/ in Germany. Cheers, Jean-Louis ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] First person narrative
On 2012-02-23, at 11:01 AM, Gene Youngblood wrote: > Colleagues, > Can anyone think of narrative (or storytelling) films that use the > first-person, present tense (subjective) mode of address, other than in > interior monologues? It must be done through speech, so “direct cinema” (a > form of storytelling) doesn’t count. Examples, if there are any, can be from > any tradition, commercial to experimental. A Clockwork Orange Taxi Driver Full Metal Jacket Ferris Bueller's Day Off (on-camera) Cheers, Jean-Louis___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] War Films Featuring Prayer
Paths of Glory comes to mind. JL ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] !6mm camera info resource
On 2012-01-10, at 1:29 PM, David Tetzlaff wrote: > I've updated my little 16mm resources webpage -- http://djt16.110mb.com/ -- > with the addition of some camera manuals. These are (mostly) .pdfs made from > my own scans of stuff not already freely available on the web AFAIK. > > Specifically, I have service manuals/diagrams for Bolex H16, Filmo 70, B+H > 240, and Kodak K100, which I haven't seen anywhere else online. > > The Bolex service manual is illegible in spots, having come from a bad > photocopy. If anyone has better copies of the bad pages, or can parse the > text from the traces there, please let me know so i can update the .pdf. > > I also added links to other sites hosting manuals and/or containing valuable > info. > > If you have other manuals to contribute that are not already up on one of > these sites, (or you have a better copy or can make a better quality scan) > let me know off-list. Likewise if you suggestions for other links. > > Finally, if there are any Russian speakers on the list who would be willing > to take a crack at translating the manual for a Kiev 16mm (9 small pages - > about 4" x 6" of Cyrillic text) please contact me! > > djt > ___ > FrameWorks mailing list > FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com > https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks Thank you David for posting these valuable documents. Cheers, Jean-Louis ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Look for a Bolex
On 2011-11-14, at 7:24 AM, John Knecht wrote: > Frame Workers, > > I am looking to buy a used Bolex. it does not have to be a Rex 5, but > it should be a reflex camera. I want something that is clean and in > excellent working order. I am interested in a zoom lens or lenses as > well. What is out there? I don't want to go the e-bay route if I > don't have to. Thanks. > > John Knecht Hi John, I have several Bolex cameras that can be made available if you're not in too much of a rush. Cheers, Jean-Louis ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
