[Frameworks] Dirty Duplicate of spliced 16mm Color Neg
Hello! Does anyone know of a lab in the U.S. who can do a dirty duplicate of hand spliced color neg 16mm film? thanks! Meg -- Margaret Rorison http://margaretrorison.com/ http://redroom.org/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Dirty Duplicate of spliced 16mm Color Neg
You've got a negative and you want a duplicate negative made? Or you have a negative and you want a print made? Any lab should be able to do either, BUT the bad news is that there is no more CRI stock and no more reversal print stock, so in order to get a dupe negative you have to get an interpositive made and then the interneg struck from that, at twice the cost and loss of resolution. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Dirty Duplicate of spliced 16mm Color Neg
Try Movie Lab in Maryland. They've done it in the past. Some labs won't print anything that's been tape spliced due to concerns about breakage & hang-ups when it runs through the contact printer at high speeds. Just ask, any lab should be forthright about whether they'll make you a print. -Jason Halprin From: Margaret Rorison To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Monday, April 9, 2012 1:03 PM Subject: [Frameworks] Dirty Duplicate of spliced 16mm Color Neg Hello! Does anyone know of a lab in the U.S. who can do a dirty duplicate of hand spliced color neg 16mm film? thanks! Meg -- Margaret Rorison http://margaretrorison.com/ http://redroom.org/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Dirty Duplicate of spliced 16mm Color Neg
Scott, Thanks for getting back to me. If you or anyone else could clarify things, that would be wonderful! I have a work print, which is an interpositive print of the color negative film. The work print was edited by hand and spliced to create a final film. Now, I want to make a duplicate copy of this edited interpositive workprint because I will be projecting it for a week in a gallery and would like a back-up to play it safe. So, I think, by what you are saying (and by what ColorLab has told me) the only way to do this is quite expensive and requires me to pay for both an new internegative that will then make a new interpositive. Is this the only solution in 2012? Thank you for your help, Sincerely, Meg You've got a negative and you want a duplicate negative made? Or you have a negative and you want a print made? Any lab should be able to do either, BUT the bad news is that there is no more CRI stock and no more reversal print stock, so in order to get a dupe negative you have to get an interpositive made and then the interneg struck from that, at twice the cost and loss of resolution. --scott -- Margaret Rorison http://margaretrorison.com/ http://redroom.org/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Dirty Duplicate of spliced 16mm Color Neg
Niagara Custom Lab in Toronto will print negs with tape splices. You could try using Ektachrome 100D to duplicate your film on an optical printer. Or you could use your workprint to compile an EDL and do a neg cut (either or yourself or hire a pro). From: Margaret Rorison To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Monday, April 9, 2012 8:07:30 PM Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Dirty Duplicate of spliced 16mm Color Neg Scott, Thanks for getting back to me. If you or anyone else could clarify things, that would be wonderful! I have a work print, which is an interpositive print of the color negative film. The work print was edited by hand and spliced to create a final film. Now, I want to make a duplicate copy of this edited interpositive workprint because I will be projecting it for a week in a gallery and would like a back-up to play it safe. So, I think, by what you are saying (and by what ColorLab has told me) the only way to do this is quite expensive and requires me to pay for both an new internegative that will then make a new interpositive. Is this the only solution in 2012? Thank you for your help, Sincerely, Meg You've got a negative and you want a duplicate negative made? Or you have a negative and you want a print made? Any lab should be able to do either, BUT the bad news is that there is no more CRI stock and no more reversal print stock, so in order to get a dupe negative you have to get an interpositive made and then the interneg struck from that, at twice the cost and loss of resolution. --scott -- Margaret Rorison http://margaretrorison.com/ http://redroom.org/ ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Dirty Duplicate of spliced 16mm Color Neg
Okay, here are your possibilities: 1. Go back and conform your original negative to match the workprint, or hire a negative matcher to do it. Colorlab can do this, and they are expensive BUT you can get it A/B rolled so the edits look cleaner. 2. Since it's only for safety use, get a B&W dirty dupe on 7366. I don't know if Colorlab can do this but any lab that does B&W reversal should be able to. Color rendition is a bit odd, but it might be okay as a backup and as a record to allow you to go back and conform the original later on and reconstruct things. 3. Pay the lab for a one-light internegative to be made. Don't strike a print from the interneg until you actually need it. There are labs out there much cheaper than Colorlab for this. Another poster suggested using a printer and duplicating on E100 E-6 reversal film. My experience duplicating onto camera stocks is that the contrast and saturation build up enormously (in a way that is really cool if that's what you want). It's possible a lab may be able to preflash the stock in order to keep this under control but it will take some tinkering to get it to work right. Fred at A-1 was hoarding VNF print stock for a while I'd be curious what happened to that. Where is he these days anyway? --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
