Re: [Frameworks] homemade video copies of 16mm
If you're looking for a cheap way to make acceptable-grade copies of films, consider one of the Elmo film chain units. Bad idea. The camera technology is circa mid-1980's. Results not so good... And people selling them usually want alot of money. It's a camera built inside a projector with the proper shutter and some alignment hardware. No need to worry about seeing the grain of a ground glass or defects on a screen. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] homemade video copies of 16mm
Moviestuff used to sell a mirror box with a condenser lens but you could probably get an acceptable lens and mirror at Edmund Otics which would allow for filming an aerial image from a projector. Forget NTSC it's dead as a doorknob and good riddance. 1080 24 frame transfer can be converted to any lower res format easily. Robert Houllahan Film www.lunarfilms.com www.cinelab.com Mapple iTelephone sent On Jun 24, 2012, at 7:12 PM, David Tetzlaff djte...@gmail.com wrote: If you're looking for a cheap way to make acceptable-grade copies of films, consider one of the Elmo film chain units. Bad idea. The camera technology is circa mid-1980's. Results not so good... And people selling them usually want alot of money. It's a camera built inside a projector with the proper shutter and some alignment hardware. No need to worry about seeing the grain of a ground glass or defects on a screen. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] homemade video copies of 16mm
Scott Dorsey wrote: That said, there are some folks out there doing very high quality film transfers for very very cheap today. With the coming of HD, the guys with old SD gear have been dropping their rates aggressively. --scott Can you recomend any good, cheap ones in NYC? ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] homemade video copies of 16mm
Since you are in the Mission, you might consider getting a proper scan of your film instead of subjecting it to a projector and camcorder. Note that you will be getting a video with combined fields that often blend two frames together -- and unlike a conventional telecine with real 3:2 pulldown the cadence isn't locked to anything and will drift. Buck Bito and Jennifer Miko run the Video Transfer Center on Van Ness -- they are relocating in a couple of weeks and will have a new, far better name. They do excellent work in any format -- 8mm, S8, 9.5mm, 16mm, S16, 17.5mm, 28mm, and 35mm. Disclosure: they have a shiny new Kinetta Archival Scanner, which I make. Jeff Kreines Kinetta On Jun 23, 2012, at 8:18 AM, David Tetzlaff djte...@gmail.com wrote: They're called telecine projectors. There were some made as 5 blade versions originally, others converted after the fact. Mostly they're based on Elmos, a few on Singer/Telex. Search 'telecine' on eBay. I have one I could sell you inexpensively BUT I live in CT and the shipping would be ridonculous Since you're in The Mission, why don't you ask Craig B. is he has one you can borrow or rent, or knows where to get one? ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] homemade video copies of 16mm
You need a 5 blade projector if you're shooting 29.97. You can use a standard projector if your camera will shoot 24fps. Sell the Sony, and buy a used Canon XG-A1. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] homemade video copies of 16mm
I agree. I have a Canon XH-A1 and shooting right off of the screen in 24F mode produces pretty decent results. In the following example I was playing the film on an ordinary Kodak Pageant. http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUZkP0WLgaGG9Yhbc4Yd8SXwfeature=player_detailpagev=xF-0sYsLP10 On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 6:23 AM, David Tetzlaff djte...@gmail.com wrote: You need a 5 blade projector if you're shooting 29.97. You can use a standard projector if your camera will shoot 24fps. Sell the Sony, and buy a used Canon XG-A1. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] homemade video copies of 16mm
haha Thanks, but the reason I bought the Sony was because I am working on a documentary, and that is the same camera that my documentary partner has, sooo.until we finish shooting that I can't get rid of this Sony. What would be a make and model of a five blade projector I could maybe look for? thanks for your advice... Kristie Reinders, B.F.A. Director of Cinematography, Electric Visions Curator and Head Projectionist, Electric Mural Project The Mission, San Francisco, CA 'A first class technician should work best under pressure.' - - - Issac Asimov From: djte...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 09:23:55 -0400 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] homemade video copies of 16mm You need a 5 blade projector if you're shooting 29.97. You can use a standard projector if your camera will shoot 24fps. Sell the Sony, and buy a used Canon XG-A1. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
