Re: [ANNOUNCE] FreeAmp 2.1 beta 3

2000-06-01 Thread Mark B. Elrod

sad to say, but you will have to find other ways to amuse yourself 

elrod

Michael Rich wrote:

> > We have fixed a lot of the baddies in beta 1 but rumor has it
> > there are
> > still bugs lurking in our beloved product... please pound on this and
> > let us know about them.
>
> Does this mean I can't watch the thread count for freeamp.exe jump to over
> 100 anymore?  :)
>
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RE: [ANNOUNCE] FreeAmp 2.1 beta 3

2000-06-01 Thread Michael Rich

> We have fixed a lot of the baddies in beta 1 but rumor has it
> there are
> still bugs lurking in our beloved product... please pound on this and
> let us know about them.

Does this mean I can't watch the thread count for freeamp.exe jump to over
100 anymore?  :)


mike

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Re: [ANNOUNCE] FreeAmp 2.1 beta 3

2000-06-01 Thread Isaac Richards

I'd just like to say that in beta 3, the very frequent, very random crashes in
the unix beta 1 _should_ be fixed.  It's usable again =)

Isaac

At 04:15 PM 6/1/00 , you wrote:
>Beta 3 is now available on our website. Sorry again for the delay
>between releasing beta 1 and this release. I think we have solved the
>release issues we were having.
>
>We have fixed a lot of the baddies in beta 1 but rumor has it there are
>still bugs lurking in our beloved product... please pound on this and
>let us know about them.
>
>elrod
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[ANNOUNCE] FreeAmp 2.1 beta 3

2000-06-01 Thread Mark B. Elrod

Beta 3 is now available on our website. Sorry again for the delay
between releasing beta 1 and this release. I think we have solved the
release issues we were having.

We have fixed a lot of the baddies in beta 1 but rumor has it there are
still bugs lurking in our beloved product... please pound on this and
let us know about them.

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Re: after compile in VC6++

2000-06-01 Thread Mark B. Elrod

Make sure you choose to do a Rebuild All... it might not have recompiled and
linked everything correctly... MSDev gets confused sometimes...

elrod

Victor Romero wrote:

> with my active configuratios I get this after bild freeamp.exe, but it asks
> me for the files dll still. =(
>
> Configuration: freeamp - Win32 NASM
> Release
>
> freeamp.exe - 0 error(s), 0 warning(s)
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Re: after compile in VC6++

2000-06-01 Thread Mark B. Elrod

Also if you have the build toolbar showing you can choose which project is the
actve and which version to build by using the dropdowns.

if you use the SAet Active Configuration from the Build menu choose "FreeAmp -
NASM Release"

elrod

Chad Loder wrote:

> Rob wrote "If you choose your build target to be the NASM Release...",
> so if that's what you want, then choose that one.
>
> Then rebuild.
>
>  c
>
> At 02:10 PM 5/31/2000 -0500, you wrote:
> >there I have:
> >x-Win 32  Release
> >x-Win 32 Debug
> >x-Win 32 NASM release
> >x-win 32 NASM Debug
> >
> >x=faselib, etc.
> >
> >Then?
> >
> >Thanks
> >Victor
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: Chad Loder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 1:55 PM
> >Subject: RE: after compile in VC6++
> >
> >
> > > Choose "Set Active Configuration" from the "Build" menu
> > > in VC++.
> > >
> > >  c
> > >
> > > At 01:45 PM 5/31/2000 -0500, you wrote:
> > >
> > > >- Original Message -
> > > >From: Mayhem & Chaos Coordinator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 1:16 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: after compile in VC6++
> > > > >
> > > > > If you choose your build target to be the NASM Release and then
> >rebuild
> > > >the
> > > > > entire codebase before giving it to friends, it should not ask for
> >that
> > > >file
> > > > > anymore.
> > > >
> > > >How  can I choose it?
> > > >
> > > >victor
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RE: after compile in VC6++

2000-06-01 Thread Victor Romero

with my active configuratios I get this after bild freeamp.exe, but it asks
me for the files dll still. =(

Configuration: freeamp - Win32 NASM
Release

freeamp.exe - 0 error(s), 0 warning(s)
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RE: after compile in VC6++

2000-06-01 Thread Chad Loder

Rob wrote "If you choose your build target to be the NASM Release...",
so if that's what you want, then choose that one.

Then rebuild.

 c

At 02:10 PM 5/31/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>there I have:
>x-Win 32  Release
>x-Win 32 Debug
>x-Win 32 NASM release
>x-win 32 NASM Debug
>
>x=faselib, etc.
>
>Then?
>
>Thanks
>Victor
>
>- Original Message -
>From: Chad Loder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 1:55 PM
>Subject: RE: after compile in VC6++
>
>
> > Choose "Set Active Configuration" from the "Build" menu
> > in VC++.
> >
> >  c
> >
> > At 01:45 PM 5/31/2000 -0500, you wrote:
> >
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: Mayhem & Chaos Coordinator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 1:16 PM
> > >Subject: Re: after compile in VC6++
> > > >
> > > > If you choose your build target to be the NASM Release and then
>rebuild
> > >the
> > > > entire codebase before giving it to friends, it should not ask for
>that
> > >file
> > > > anymore.
> > >
> > >How  can I choose it?
> > >
> > >victor
> > >
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RE: after compile in VC6++

2000-06-01 Thread Victor Romero

there I have:
x-Win 32  Release
x-Win 32 Debug
x-Win 32 NASM release
x-win 32 NASM Debug

x=faselib, etc.

Then?

Thanks
Victor

- Original Message -
From: Chad Loder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 1:55 PM
Subject: RE: after compile in VC6++


> Choose "Set Active Configuration" from the "Build" menu
> in VC++.
>
>  c
>
> At 01:45 PM 5/31/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >- Original Message -
> >From: Mayhem & Chaos Coordinator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 1:16 PM
> >Subject: Re: after compile in VC6++
> > >
> > > If you choose your build target to be the NASM Release and then
rebuild
> >the
> > > entire codebase before giving it to friends, it should not ask for
that
> >file
> > > anymore.
> >
> >How  can I choose it?
> >
> >victor
> >
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RE: after compile in VC6++

2000-06-01 Thread Chad Loder

Choose "Set Active Configuration" from the "Build" menu
in VC++.

 c

At 01:45 PM 5/31/2000 -0500, you wrote:

>- Original Message -
>From: Mayhem & Chaos Coordinator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 1:16 PM
>Subject: Re: after compile in VC6++
> >
> > If you choose your build target to be the NASM Release and then rebuild
>the
> > entire codebase before giving it to friends, it should not ask for that
>file
> > anymore.
>
>How  can I choose it?
>
>victor
>
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RE: after compile in VC6++

2000-06-01 Thread Victor Romero


- Original Message -
From: Mayhem & Chaos Coordinator <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: after compile in VC6++
>
> If you choose your build target to be the NASM Release and then rebuild
the
> entire codebase before giving it to friends, it should not ask for that
file
> anymore.

How  can I choose it?

victor

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Re: after compile in VC6++

2000-06-01 Thread Mayhem & Chaos Coordinator

> "Error, there isn't this file VSC6OD.dll", obviously if I had this file I
> can run without problem, but if I want redistribuite it to all my friends,
> all they will need this file, how can I do to fix it (for dont asking for
> this file)?

If you choose your build target to be the NASM Release and then rebuild the
entire codebase before giving it to friends, it should not ask for that file
anymore.


--ruaok   Hindsight is always 50/50.

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Re: About .... everything

2000-06-01 Thread Mark B. Elrod



Srdan wrote:

> I compiled & tested 2.0.7 & 2.1beta1 with WC 6.0
> (Visual C) on W95 osr2 and:
> 1) 2.0.7 doesn't compile clean and is not stable so i
> want mention it anymore. you should remove it from homepage.
> (the source, i mean)
>

What do you mean by does not compile cleanly? I know the gdbm stuff has some
signed unsigned warnings but i have not taken the time to delve into those and
make sure that casting them away would cause an error. are there any other
places?

> About 2.1beta1
> 3) you're not killing threads correctly. after few minutes there is more
> than 400 active threads

This has been fixed since beta 2 but due to a snafu in our release process
beta 2 was held up.. beta 3 is gonna be on the site in about an hour. check it
out.

> 7) In options menu when changing bettween 'tabs' screen
> is redrawn in a 'strange' way.

I have heard others report this... can you describe what you are seeing?


> In change info on multiple items there's something wrong.
> sometimes it works, sometimes it crashed, it is too slow, and last time it
> TRUNCATED TO ZERO LENGTH 3 albums (different subdirs)
> With disk editor i recovered it, OK, lost few frames on begining
> because it wrote file info booth on begining & end of stream !!

Hmm sounds like a bug in the id3v2/id3v1 plugins can you please put this one
in bugzilla. squashing a file is a major bug...


> My music minors:
> 10) the tree is redrawn strangly, mouse blinks too much
> 11) double click in empty space starts song again

I will see if i can improve these.. i occasionally see flicker on mine.

> I've got a lot of suggestions so if you interested let me know.

Of course we are interested. Send along your suggestions... even better is to
help implement them!

Thanks for taking the time to critique our stuff.

elrod

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Re: About .... everything

2000-06-01 Thread Mayhem & Chaos Coordinator

> I found freeamp recently and i really love it.

I'm glad you like it.

> Except for its numerous bugs and 20% more
> time consuming it beats winamp undoubtedly.
> Speed isn't something you should worry about
> (too much) but bugs  maybe you should clear
> all bugs before implementing new features...

Well, the tough part about fixing the bugs is that we don't really know what
they all are yet.

> About 2.1beta1
> 2) there are still warnings wich could & should be resolved with casts
> (i think it's faster to do it yourself than to implement my changes
> so i'm not sending anything)
> 3) you're not killing threads correctly. after few minutes there is more
> than 400 active threads

I haven't seen this happen -- does it still happen with beta 3? Beta 3 will
be released within a few hours -- please check it out.

> OK, this was a bug report. (Sorry, but I hate bugzilla.)

We would really prefer you to use bugzilla to report bugs. This way you will
not report bugs that have already been reported (and fixed!), which will
save you and us time.

> There are more bugs, but I'd like to have beta2 to continue testing.

Check out beta 3 -- the bugs you've mentioned may have already been fixed.

--ruaok   Hindsight is always 50/50.

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About .... everything

2000-06-01 Thread Srdan

This mail maybe isn't exactly for freeamp-dev
but i hope you will be able to use it.

I found freeamp recently and i really love it.
Except for its numerous bugs and 20% more
time consuming it beats winamp undoubtedly.
Speed isn't something you should worry about
(too much) but bugs  maybe you should clear
all bugs before implementing new features...

I compiled & tested 2.0.7 & 2.1beta1 with WC 6.0
(Visual C) on W95 osr2 and:
1) 2.0.7 doesn't compile clean and is not stable so i
want mention it anymore. you should remove it from homepage.
(the source, i mean)

About 2.1beta1
2) there are still warnings wich could & should be resolved with casts
(i think it's faster to do it yourself than to implement my changes
so i'm not sending anything)
3) you're not killing threads correctly. after few minutes there is more 
than 400 active threads

In 256 colors resolution it really sucks:
4) switching between windows messes color palete
5) minimize & help work. open equilizer, switch view & quit
crashes in different ways, raises asserts, even kills OS.
6) Apply Option crashes OS. 
Actually, almost everything crashes.
7) In options menu when changing bettween 'tabs' screen
is redrawn in a 'strange' way.
8) Moving window with equilizer shown loses equilizer and crashes later.
There is more, but this is enough for start.

In My music window:
9) in change info on multiple items there's something wrong.
sometimes it works, sometimes it crashed, it is too slow, and last time it
TRUNCATED TO ZERO LENGTH 3 albums (different subdirs)
With disk editor i recovered it, OK, lost few frames on begining
because it wrote file info booth on begining & end of stream !!
My music minors:
10) the tree is redrawn strangly, mouse blinks too much
11) double click in empty space starts song again

OK, this was a bug report. (Sorry, but I hate bugzilla.)
There are more bugs, but I'd like to have beta2 to continue testing.
Enough for this mail.
I've got a lot of suggestions so if you interested let me know.

Srdan


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after compile in VC6++

2000-06-01 Thread Victor Romero

well I have buil the freeamp, whit some changes and I decided show it to my
friends, but when I run it in the computer  of my school it produces me an
error
"Error, there isn't this file VSC6OD.dll", obviously if I had this file I
can run without problem, but if I want redistribuite it to all my friends,
all they will need this file, how can I do to fix it (for dont asking for
this file)?
another question how can I do an intallation file? is necesary have install
shield pro, (cos with the intallshiel of VS6, gives me an error, prototyping
of dll is not suported in intallshield of VS6)
Thanks a lot!!!
Victor
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Re: Queueing Behavior

2000-06-01 Thread Mark B. Elrod

it should never go to the beginning unless you drag it there yourself inside the My
Music view. I did fix some bugs with drag and drop on the main player window that
should show up in beta 3.

elrod

Chad Loder wrote:

> Actually, this may be partly a restatement of the
> original problem. Dragging a file onto the player
> while playing another file seems to move the
> dropped file to the head of the queue.
>
> But...independently of whether the player
> automatically starts playing the dropped file,
> I always feel like it should go to the other
> end of the queue. Maybe I'm smoking crack. :)
>
>  c
>
> At 11:54 PM 5/31/2000 -0700, you wrote:
> >define "order of queueing"
> >
> >elrod
> >
> >Chad Loder wrote:
> >
> > > I think happens on my machine, too.
> > >
> > > Also, the order of queuing seems not to be intuitive, either. :P
> > >
> > >  c
> > >
> > > At 11:07 PM 5/31/2000 -0700, you wrote:
> > > >I finally found a computer at the office that has this problem. i hope to
> > > >track
> > > >it down soon.
> > > >
> > > >elrod
> > > >
> > > >Valters Vingolds wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Does drag-n-drop of file in musicbrowser from my music tree view to
> > > > > playlist view work yet?
> > > > > Should be equivalent of doubleclicking on song. Somehow I find it very
> > > > > intuitive to use drag-n-drop, but I was a bit annoyed when it
> > didn't work.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Now I have a question for you guys... since we are adding in streams
> > > > > >support does it make sense to queue a stream? should the default
> > > > > >behavior ffor a stream ALWAYS be play immediately?
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, no... if I want it queued, I mean it. I personally want player to
> > > > > play when I press Play, not before. I don't play streams that much,
> > though.
> > > > > But I vote for streams to be considered ordinary files.
> > > > >
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Re: Queueing Behavior

2000-06-01 Thread Chad Loder

Actually, this may be partly a restatement of the
original problem. Dragging a file onto the player
while playing another file seems to move the
dropped file to the head of the queue.

But...independently of whether the player
automatically starts playing the dropped file,
I always feel like it should go to the other
end of the queue. Maybe I'm smoking crack. :)

 c

At 11:54 PM 5/31/2000 -0700, you wrote:
>define "order of queueing"
>
>elrod
>
>Chad Loder wrote:
>
> > I think happens on my machine, too.
> >
> > Also, the order of queuing seems not to be intuitive, either. :P
> >
> >  c
> >
> > At 11:07 PM 5/31/2000 -0700, you wrote:
> > >I finally found a computer at the office that has this problem. i hope to
> > >track
> > >it down soon.
> > >
> > >elrod
> > >
> > >Valters Vingolds wrote:
> > >
> > > > Does drag-n-drop of file in musicbrowser from my music tree view to
> > > > playlist view work yet?
> > > > Should be equivalent of doubleclicking on song. Somehow I find it very
> > > > intuitive to use drag-n-drop, but I was a bit annoyed when it 
> didn't work.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Now I have a question for you guys... since we are adding in streams
> > > > >support does it make sense to queue a stream? should the default
> > > > >behavior ffor a stream ALWAYS be play immediately?
> > > >
> > > > Well, no... if I want it queued, I mean it. I personally want player to
> > > > play when I press Play, not before. I don't play streams that much, 
> though.
> > > > But I vote for streams to be considered ordinary files.
> > > >
> > > > --
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> > > > ... in order to succeed you have to learn to think of yourself as of a
> > > > product.
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Re: Help files

2000-06-01 Thread Chad Loder

We may want to base any XML help approach on JavaHelp. Sun
has defined a simple and general file format for platform
independent, context-sensitive help files. See
http://java.sun.com/products/javahelp/spec-1.0.pdf.

Obviously Freeamp is not implemented in Java, but it doesn't
appear that the raw XML format defined by Sun necessarily
implies use in Java programs.

We could use Sun's DTDs as a starting point for our approach.
It shouldn't be too hard for me to develop a standalone tool
that processes help files in this format and outputs some
intermediary files that can be fed to native, platform
specific helpfile distiller applications.

I must say that I personally don't feel like doing XML I/O
in anything other than Java (but since it's an auxiliary
support tool, I hope Java wouldn't be too much of a problem).

Anyone think this approach has merit?

 c
At 11:12 PM 5/31/2000 -0700, you wrote:
>It would be nice to be able to use the same format for both platforms. Also I
>know the Mac help system is now HTML... so is Be This would make
>translations like Victor's easier too...
>
>elrod
>
>Joe Cosentino wrote:
>
> > One thing is that FreeAmp could change to using HTML Help 
> files.  Micro$haft
> > makes a HTML Help studio that is freely downloadable from their website.
> > Plus, the HTML files are a hell of a lot easier to maintain than the RTF
> > files.
> >
> > Just my 2c,
> >
> > Joe
> >
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