Re: mailing lists
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007, Brian wrote: Filter on the Sender header. That is controlled by the list manager and doesn't have duplicate names. For -questions, the Sender is [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is just the kind of thing we should avoid, we're choosing to make the more difficult on user route because??? Filter on List-Id. -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from. -- Andrew Tanenbaum GPG Fingerprint - 5596 B766 97C0 0E94 4347 295E E593 DC20 7B3F CE8C signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: cvs commit: src/sys/conf files src/sys/netinet tcp_ofld.c ?tcp_ofld.h tcp_var.h toedev.h src/sys/sys socket.h
David Schultz wrote: Julian Elischer wrote: sys/netinet tcp_ofld.c tcp_ofld.h toedev.h Log: Add driver independent interface to offload active established TCP connections Reviewed by: silby Revision ChangesPath 1.1256+1 -0 src/sys/conf/files 1.1 +126 -0src/sys/netinet/tcp_ofld.c (new) 1.1 +198 -0src/sys/netinet/tcp_ofld.h (new) I think I'd have just gone for tcp_offload.c it's not the longest filename in the system. I agree with Julian here. This isn't DOS where we need to fit filenames in 8.3 characters. There's no reason to abbreviate that way. I don't think src/contrib/bind9/doc/draft/draft-ietf-dnsext-signed-nonexistence-requirements-01.txt should really count because it's a vendor source, though. We do, however, have src/lib/libarchive/archive_read_support_compression_compress.c Just out of curiosity I made a small survery on the src tree. First in src/sys only (this is a RELENG_6 machine): $ cd /sys $ find * | awk -F/ '{print length($NF)}' | sucs -k2 92 2 316 3 251 4 508 5 503 6 587 7 1506 8 816 9 919 10 678 11 629 12 499 13 348 14 224 15 153 16 85 17 58 18 48 19 25 20 24 21 6 22 11 23 5 24 5 25 3 26 1 29 1 33 As you can see, the maximum of the count graph of filenames' lengths is at 8 characters. The median is 9, the average is 9.4 chars. 18% of the filenames are 13 characters or longer, therefore tcp_offload.[ch] wouldn't be that unusual at all. When you look at C source files only (find * -name \*.c), then the average even reaches 10.6. By the way, sucs is an alias: sort | uniq -c | sort -n (I use that often.) It's not much different when you look at /usr/src which includes the 3d party contrib stuff (I grouped some of the lines for brevity): $ cd /usr/src $ find * | awk -F/ '{print length($NF)}' | sucs -k2 14 1 437 2 1173 3 1603 4 2489 5 3228 6 3442 7 6647 8 4173 9 3951 10 3370 11 2855 12 1921 13 1565 14 1062 15 841 16 752 17 430 18 446 19 707 20 - 24 250 25 - 29 95 30 - 34 51 35 - 39 12 40 - 44 11 45 - 49 1 50 1 51 1 52 1 57 The maximum is at 8 again, the median is 9 again, and the average is 9.7 (just slightly longer than in /sys). When only looking at C source files, the average is 10.2. Best regards Oliver Mr. Statistics -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH Co. KG, Marktplatz 29, 85567 Grafing b. M. Handelsregister: Registergericht Muenchen, HRA 74606, Geschäftsfuehrung: secnetix Verwaltungsgesellsch. mbH, Handelsregister: Registergericht Mün- chen, HRB 125758, Geschäftsführer: Maik Bachmann, Olaf Erb, Ralf Gebhart FreeBSD-Dienstleistungen, -Produkte und mehr: http://www.secnetix.de/bsd Unix gives you just enough rope to hang yourself -- and then a couple of more feet, just to be sure. -- Eric Allman ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: mailing lists
Brian wrote: Jason C. Wells wrote: On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Brian wrote: The fact that each mailing list exists as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] makes me need to make 2 filters for each list I subscribe to. Can I suggest that if this is going to continue, that the server shows one format for all the messages that go out? Filter on the Sender header. That is controlled by the list manager and doesn't have duplicate names. For -questions, the Sender is [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is just the kind of thing we should avoid, we're choosing to make the more difficult on user route because??? I filter on sender. Have done so for years. No problem at all. As for difficult, I understand the list alias exists to make things EASIER for users. They can use either list name. If this is the biggest problem in your life, consider yourself fortunate. :) -- Dan Langille - http://www.langille.org/ BSDCan - The Technical BSD Conference: http://www.bsdcan.org/ ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Wine compatibility and performance on FreeBSD 7
Do you honestly think that you're going to convince each other of anything? Can you at least move it off-list please? On 13 Dec 2007, at 15:54, Russell Jackson wrote: Chuck Robey wrote: Marc Spitzer wrote: On Dec 12, 2007 11:35 PM, Tom Wickline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 12, 2007 10:30 PM, Marc Spitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the interesting things about socialism, in all in many evil forms(including gnu/fsf), is that they simply must lie about their program or no one of average intelligence would be stupid enough to sign up for it. It just goes to show you that without G_d religion gets much much worse. marc That one gave me a chuckle :D Your just pissed because GPL makes people give back there changes! And from the way it looks you and a couple others here are mad because you cant go use others work and not have to contribute. You want the freedom to rob, steal pillage others hard work for your own good... And now you call this socialism because you cant do it? This sort of idea is entirely common among the folks who push GPL. They assign their encumbrances to their licenses, THEN they claim (just to take the attention off the fact that their license, alone, has those encumbrances) that are mad because you cant go use others work (that's your quote, sir, look above if you disagree). The BSD license, in fact, Seems like you left off the more important part of the quote, ... and not have to contribute. That is to say that you're free to do what you will with the code as long as you redistribute your changes. It's a simple requirement. Tat for tat. Stallman believes, rightly, that the freedom of the user is ultimately preserved through the freedom of the code; hence, there are restrictions on redistribution in order to guarantee the former. His writings are quite clear on this point. Nobody is lying; you are just willfully refusing to understand. DOES allow any user to use the code in any damn way they please, all it means is that folks lose the ability to force anyone else to also public their work. That's the reason that a huge portion of the commercial world is actually direclty violating the GPL, and just relying on the fact that no one has the dollars to go after them (thank god). BSD licensed code allows anyone, anywhere, to do whatever they like with their work, unlike GPL, which is as directly communist/socialist as the definition allows. The GPLeres always shift attention away from that fact. Just like you did above. What about the fact that the BSD license is about 15 lines long, while the GPL license is one of the most evilly legalistically worded documents I;'ve ever seen ... worst that the worst emplyment document I have ever been asked to sign. Of course, you're just going to ignore that. No I am not, the gpl is a thing and I save my spleen for people. The thing that pisses me off is that the FSF and their minions deliberately and knowingly lie about what the terms and conditions are on the license they falsely call free. Face it when you redefine common words in the English language to mean something that is found in no dictionary or daily use and in point of fact contradicts at least one of the main uses of the word, ie meaning with out cost or encumbrance, you are willingly lieing through your fucking teeth and you know it. I am not compelled to do do anything as I avoid the entire family of gnu licenses except as an end user, so they get nothing and I can still use their software hahaha umm this is s freebsd list and freebsd has done quite well by having faith in the inherent decency of people in general, netgraph and BASM come to mind. Further more oh yea of little history unix, and linux, would not have grown to the degree it did if the berkley code was gpled, OS/Kernel features were competitive advantage back then, because I could not keep the code closed and it would have conflicted with ATT's license as well. hahahaha What a crock of shit! stop projecting. marc Tom -- Russell A. Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Analyst California State University, Bakersfield OPTIMIST: Someone who goes down to the marriage bureau to see if his license has expired. ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
7.0 BETA4, RC1 and everything after
I've noticed that the 7.0 BETA4 schedule has not been updated but that builds are available? RC1 was anticipated to begin Dec. 12th. Anyone with a better bird's eye than I able to give some thought on the overall progress toward RC1? I've looked at commits, problem reports and the like but thought I'd throw the question out there. I know the simple answer is: When it's ready. I'm just curious about the progress Oh, and kudos all that have worked hard on 7.0. I'm impressed more now than I was when I first tried 4.X. Thanks, Robert ___ freebsd-chat@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-chat To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]