Re: Keyboard

2007-12-13 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Jason C. Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I really like my Logitech Ultra X.  It's an OEM keyboard and not
 available in stores.  I got mine at Newegg for about $20.  For me the
 tactile scissor switch i.e laptop style keys are preferred.  It is one
 of few modern keyboards that don't try to _improve_the layout.  It's a
 straight PC104 layout.  Now if I could just get X Windows to use the
 media keys.

I use those exclusively; it feels just like a laptop keyboard, so I
don't have to adapt every time I dock my laptop or sit down at a
workstation.  The media keys work just fine in Gnome and Xfce.

DES
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Keyboard

2007-12-12 Thread alive

So, at work I have a nice wireless Logitech keyboard with all the extra
multimedia hotkeys and shortcuts one could ever come to think of, and a
great laser mouse that even works when I use it on my pants.

The problem is, though, that being a wireless keyboard, it sometimes gets
interference from either bluetooth devices or some other wireless HID
peripherals, and this leads to a lot of stress and keyboard abuse on my
part. 

I was wondering if anybody knew of a good wired keyboard (+ maybe mouse)
that my hands won't get tired of using about 8-12 hours a day.
Thanks :)

Sincerely,
Rada

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Re: Keyboard

2007-12-12 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
alive [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 So, at work I have a nice wireless Logitech keyboard with all the extra
 multimedia hotkeys and shortcuts one could ever come to think of, and a
 great laser mouse that even works when I use it on my pants.

 The problem is, though, that being a wireless keyboard, it sometimes gets
 interference from either bluetooth devices or some other wireless HID
 peripherals, and this leads to a lot of stress and keyboard abuse on my
 part.

 I was wondering if anybody knew of a good wired keyboard (+ maybe mouse)
 that my hands won't get tired of using about 8-12 hours a day.
 Thanks :)

If you're happy with your current set (apart from the RF issues),
Logitech almost certainly have a wired version.

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Re: Keyboard

2007-12-12 Thread Jason C. Wells

Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:


alive [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:



I was wondering if anybody knew of a good wired keyboard (+ maybe mouse)
that my hands won't get tired of using about 8-12 hours a day.
Thanks :)


If you're happy with your current set (apart from the RF issues),
Logitech almost certainly have a wired version.


I really like my Logitech Ultra X.  It's an OEM keyboard and not 
available in stores.  I got mine at Newegg for about $20.  For me the 
tactile scissor switch i.e laptop style keys are preferred.  It is one 
of few modern keyboards that don't try to _improve_the layout.  It's a 
straight PC104 layout.  Now if I could just get X Windows to use the 
media keys.


I mean to hook up one of those new Apple keyboards real soon now.  They 
are so so sweet!  http://www.apple.com/keyboard/  They are available in 
wired and wireless.


And if you really like tactile response, the one true keyboard is the 
IBM Model M. It also doubles as a weapon for beating burglars who invade 
your home.


Later,
Jason
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Re: Keyboard

2007-12-12 Thread Ulf Zimmermann
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 07:59:58AM -0800, Jason C. Wells wrote:
 Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav wrote:
 
 alive [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 I was wondering if anybody knew of a good wired keyboard (+ maybe mouse)
 that my hands won't get tired of using about 8-12 hours a day.
 Thanks :)
 
 If you're happy with your current set (apart from the RF issues),
 Logitech almost certainly have a wired version.
 
 I really like my Logitech Ultra X.  It's an OEM keyboard and not 
 available in stores.  I got mine at Newegg for about $20.  For me the 
 tactile scissor switch i.e laptop style keys are preferred.  It is one 
 of few modern keyboards that don't try to _improve_the layout.  It's a 
 straight PC104 layout.  Now if I could just get X Windows to use the 
 media keys.
 
 I mean to hook up one of those new Apple keyboards real soon now.  They 
 are so so sweet!  http://www.apple.com/keyboard/  They are available in 
 wired and wireless.
 
 And if you really like tactile response, the one true keyboard is the 
 IBM Model M. It also doubles as a weapon for beating burglars who invade 
 your home.
 
 Later,
 Jason
 

I still like the keyboards from NMB which they oemed to SUN, SGI and Compaq.
Unfortunatly NMB doesn't make them anymore, only membrane ones now. But you
might still find places which sell them. Otherwise I like Cherry keyboards
as they are still using real switches on several of their models. Another
good keyboard, old style IBM with loud click, is from http://www.pckeyboard.com/
but it looks like their website is having a problem right now.

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Regards, Ulf.

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Re: Keyboard

2007-12-12 Thread Ed Stover
On Wed, December 12, 2007 12:19 pm, Ulf Zimmermann wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 07:59:58AM -0800, Jason C. Wells wrote:
 Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav wrote:

 alive [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I was wondering if anybody knew of a good wired keyboard (+ maybe
 mouse)
 that my hands won't get tired of using about 8-12 hours a day.
 Thanks :)
 
 If you're happy with your current set (apart from the RF issues),
 Logitech almost certainly have a wired version.

 I really like my Logitech Ultra X.  It's an OEM keyboard and not
 available in stores.  I got mine at Newegg for about $20.  For me the
 tactile scissor switch i.e laptop style keys are preferred.  It is one
 of few modern keyboards that don't try to _improve_the layout.  It's a
 straight PC104 layout.  Now if I could just get X Windows to use the
 media keys.

 I mean to hook up one of those new Apple keyboards real soon now.  They
 are so so sweet!  http://www.apple.com/keyboard/  They are available in
 wired and wireless.

 And if you really like tactile response, the one true keyboard is the
 IBM Model M. It also doubles as a weapon for beating burglars who invade
 your home.

 Later,
 Jason


 I still like the keyboards from NMB which they oemed to SUN, SGI and
 Compaq.
 Unfortunatly NMB doesn't make them anymore, only membrane ones now. But
 you
 might still find places which sell them. Otherwise I like Cherry keyboards
 as they are still using real switches on several of their models. Another
 good keyboard, old style IBM with loud click, is from
 http://www.pckeyboard.com/
 but it looks like their website is having a problem right now.

 --
 Regards, Ulf.

 -
 Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-865-0204
 You can find my resume at: http://www.Alameda.net/~ulf/resume.html



Im a fan of the Das Keyboard II,  http://www.daskeyboard.com/ it feels
pretty comfortable and has a nice key weight. A little spendy though...
but hey its your wrists.

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Re: Keyboard

2007-12-12 Thread Daniel A. Akulenok

Ed Stover wrote:

On Wed, December 12, 2007 12:19 pm, Ulf Zimmermann wrote:
  

On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 07:59:58AM -0800, Jason C. Wells wrote:


Dag-Erling Sm??rgrav wrote:

  

alive [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


I was wondering if anybody knew of a good wired keyboard (+ maybe
  

mouse)
  

that my hands won't get tired of using about 8-12 hours a day.
Thanks :)
  

If you're happy with your current set (apart from the RF issues),
Logitech almost certainly have a wired version.


I really like my Logitech Ultra X.  It's an OEM keyboard and not
available in stores.  I got mine at Newegg for about $20.  For me the
tactile scissor switch i.e laptop style keys are preferred.  It is one
of few modern keyboards that don't try to _improve_the layout.  It's a
straight PC104 layout.  Now if I could just get X Windows to use the
media keys.

I mean to hook up one of those new Apple keyboards real soon now.  They
are so so sweet!  http://www.apple.com/keyboard/  They are available in
wired and wireless.

And if you really like tactile response, the one true keyboard is the
IBM Model M. It also doubles as a weapon for beating burglars who invade
your home.

Later,
Jason

  

I still like the keyboards from NMB which they oemed to SUN, SGI and
Compaq.
Unfortunatly NMB doesn't make them anymore, only membrane ones now. But
you
might still find places which sell them. Otherwise I like Cherry keyboards
as they are still using real switches on several of their models. Another
good keyboard, old style IBM with loud click, is from
http://www.pckeyboard.com/
but it looks like their website is having a problem right now.

--
Regards, Ulf.

-
Ulf Zimmermann, 1525 Pacific Ave., Alameda, CA-94501, #: 510-865-0204
You can find my resume at: http://www.Alameda.net/~ulf/resume.html





Im a fan of the Das Keyboard II,  http://www.daskeyboard.com/ it feels
pretty comfortable and has a nice key weight. A little spendy though...
but hey its your wrists.

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Yeah, I was thinking about buying a Das Keyboard, but I'm not entirely 
sure if that is really what my wrists would be glad for. I'm also 
considering the Logitech Wave keyboard. Any thoughts on that one?

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/keyboards/keyboard/devices/3071cl=us,en

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Re: Keyboard

2007-12-12 Thread Warren Block

On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Matthew D. Fuller wrote:


I picked up the Model M I'm typing this on on eBay many years ago.  It
certainly was well used when I got it, and it's hardly had an idle day
since.  On the back, it lists the manufacturing date as 03-15-91.  It
still feels and works as solid as the day it was born.

There are two kinds of keyboards; buckling spring, and crap   8-}


As I said when we first unpacked the brand new IBM PCs (around 
1984-ish), I'd rather have the light switches on the wall. 
Push-push-push-CLICK!.  Those were the original controversial keyboards 
with the reduced-size shift keys, because dammit, IBM knew what was best 
for you.


Several years ago I found a bunch of Compaq keyboards, the big 
rectangular kind with a heavy metal plate in them.  They don't have a 
lot of wasted space around the edge, all the keys are in the right 
place, they aren't tiring to use, they don't wander around, and they 
were like $5 each.  I think I still have one new in a box.  Of course, 
they were from before cHomPaq.


-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: Erroneous delivery of list e-mail (was Re: adding keyboard after reboot with no keyboard )

2007-04-11 Thread keith
WHY am I on this list? I have tried everything to get off and nothing is
working... PLEASE HELP ME GET OFF THE LIST

Thanks


  I'd like everyone to note that I'm merely curious; this is the
  fourth person in 24 hours to say why in the world am I getting
  these e-mails? or please unsubscribe me, including 2 G-mail

 do you think that it wasn't simply spam? I once got a finely crafted
 spam with quoutes from the lists, which I read almost halfway before
 realizing that I was losing the thread far too often, and maybe not
 because of my logic unit being particularly slow that day...

 Maybe what we're seeing is an emergent behaviour of the Internet --
 distributed intelligence that got lonely and bored and wants to
 chat? :-o I can't seem to think of a sane reason to send out messages
 full of garbage that have a chance of being deleted close to 100%.
 Doing that on a massive scale seems to me to be beyond any logic or
 reason.

  Kevin Kinsey

 [SorAlx]  ridin' VN1500-B2
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Re: Erroneous delivery of list e-mail (was Re: adding keyboard after reboot with no keyboard )

2007-04-11 Thread Yuri Grebenkin
That's it!

If I were, for example, keith at kgparts.com (special respect to him and
all new subscribers who begun to get this list these hard days :) )
I'd read the Subject line and then the rest of message. That all gives
enough sense to avoid asking Why? at least. Strange words seems
to be out-topic. Maybe some other list gone crazy: it abuses subscribers
and all complaints are somehow routed wrong way... Have tried everything
what? If I'd tried something I'd mention it here. Hmm... Androids?

On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:22:18 -0700 (PDT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 WHY am I on this list? I have tried everything to get off and nothing is
 working... PLEASE HELP ME GET OFF THE LIST
 
 Thanks
 
 
   I'd like everyone to note that I'm merely curious; this is the
   fourth person in 24 hours to say why in the world am I getting
   these e-mails? or please unsubscribe me, including 2 G-mail
 
  do you think that it wasn't simply spam? I once got a finely crafted
  spam with quoutes from the lists, which I read almost halfway before
  realizing that I was losing the thread far too often, and maybe not
  because of my logic unit being particularly slow that day...
 
  Maybe what we're seeing is an emergent behaviour of the Internet --
  distributed intelligence that got lonely and bored and wants to
  chat? :-o I can't seem to think of a sane reason to send out messages
  full of garbage that have a chance of being deleted close to 100%.
  Doing that on a massive scale seems to me to be beyond any logic or
  reason.
 
   Kevin Kinsey
 
  [SorAlx]  ridin' VN1500-B2

- Yuri
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RE: Erroneous delivery of list e-mail (was Re: adding keyboard after reboot with no keyboard )

2007-04-11 Thread keith

Ok, maybe not everything... but everything I KNOW HOW to do... :( 

I should only be receiving emails addressed directly to my address
[EMAIL PROTECTED] I also have a FWD'ing mail that is for emails that send to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] but I went into my server and changed the FWD address of the
sales email to another address. The reason I did this was because I tried
to unsubscribe and it told me that my address [EMAIL PROTECTED] was not a 
valid
email. I tried emailing myself at every other (not sure what they are
called) Prefix's(?) @ my domain. Nothing gets to my inbox. I rerouted the
sales address and it started coming back to my inbox... This is all I know
how to do to figure out where the mail is being sent to. 
I logged into the main page for this list and could nto get anywhere either.
I tried to look up the addresses of registered users but I obviously do not
have access level to do so. I tried to unsubscribe through this page rather
than just emailing the unsubscribe address with the email addresses that
should be captured. Nothing worked as it said it would send an unsubscribe
email for me to complete the request. I never got the emails to complete the
unsubscribe request.

Either someone is having fun with me, or another email list I am on is
getting querky. The weird thing is that it apparently is not only happening
to me and other email lists I am on do not go to this address. They go to a
yahoo address. I assume it is someone messing with me that thinks this is
funny. 

Someone PLEASE help me!! 

Thanks!! 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Yuri Grebenkin
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:40 AM
To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: Erroneous delivery of list e-mail (was Re: adding keyboard
after reboot with no keyboard )

That's it!

If I were, for example, keith at kgparts.com (special respect to him and
all new subscribers who begun to get this list these hard days :) )
I'd read the Subject line and then the rest of message. That all gives
enough sense to avoid asking Why? at least. Strange words seems
to be out-topic. Maybe some other list gone crazy: it abuses subscribers
and all complaints are somehow routed wrong way... Have tried everything
what? If I'd tried something I'd mention it here. Hmm... Androids?

On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 03:22:18 -0700 (PDT)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 WHY am I on this list? I have tried everything to get off and nothing is
 working... PLEASE HELP ME GET OFF THE LIST
 
 Thanks
 
 
   I'd like everyone to note that I'm merely curious; this is the
   fourth person in 24 hours to say why in the world am I getting
   these e-mails? or please unsubscribe me, including 2 G-mail
 
  do you think that it wasn't simply spam? I once got a finely crafted
  spam with quoutes from the lists, which I read almost halfway before
  realizing that I was losing the thread far too often, and maybe not
  because of my logic unit being particularly slow that day...
 
  Maybe what we're seeing is an emergent behaviour of the Internet --
  distributed intelligence that got lonely and bored and wants to
  chat? :-o I can't seem to think of a sane reason to send out messages
  full of garbage that have a chance of being deleted close to 100%.
  Doing that on a massive scale seems to me to be beyond any logic or
  reason.
 
   Kevin Kinsey
 
  [SorAlx]  ridin' VN1500-B2

- Yuri
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Re: Erroneous delivery of list e-mail (was Re: adding keyboard after reboot with no keyboard )

2007-04-11 Thread Yuri Grebenkin
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007 06:50:23 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well, I think it's clear already that people are getting real messages
 from the maillists, even though they [think] they don't want them and
 say they can't unsubscrbe? Hm... If you try to unsubscribe by sending a
 message to mailman, do you get removed immediately, or there's some
 form of confirmation mail sent (that gets lost in the Great
 Bitbucket, perhaps)?
I've just instructed the latest visitor to try email way.
The most interesting question is where and how it all starts to subscribe?
(if only subscribtion actually takes a place)
And another: What about Mailman subscriber passwords?
Though, we still don't know clear enough source of messages which are sent
to our new visitors. Maybe fake FreeBSD list. They just click Reply
and it reaches the real one.

- Yuri

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Re: Erroneous delivery of list e-mail (was Re: adding keyboard after reboot with no keyboard )

2007-04-10 Thread Yuri Grebenkin
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 12:37:11 -0500
Kevin Kinsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Steven Johnson wrote:
  Hello,
  I am receiving your email because of a screw-up in Gmail. I have no 
  recourse
  but to mark your email as spam and delete it.
  Gmail has been unresponsive in correcting the problem.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
 
 Hi, Steven
 
 It *might* be a screwup in GMail.  However, I have circumstantial
 evidence that suggests it may be otherwise.  I hate to bother you,
 but, in the interest of several people who may be affected, could
 you send the full source of an e-mail you received from the FreeBSD
 list directly to me, and not to the list?  Also, if you have some
 convincing evidence that it's GMail, are we allowed to know about it?
 
 I'd like everyone to note that I'm merely curious; this is the
 fourth person in 24 hours to say why in the world am I getting
 these e-mails? or please unsubscribe me, including 2 G-mail users,
 an AIM.com/AOL user, and one who's at/near Abacus America/Aplus in
 San Diego.
 
 I'm copying postmaster@ as well, although I doubt it's his problem,
 but maybe a heads up would be a Good Thing(tm).  My best guess so
 far is a messed-up forwarding rule or alias/virtuser somewhere (and
 it's a big, big world), or an malicious or incompetent person with
 an axe to grind.
 
 To those of you who are receiving these messages, perhaps Mr. Johnson's
 recourse is currently your best option.  Also, please note that I am
 simply an interested individual, and do not represent the FreeBSD Project,
 G-Mail, AOL/AIM, Abacus/A+, the Teamsters/AFL/CIO, CIA/NSA, KGB, Zdnet,
 , Yahoo!, Pravda, New York Times, etc., etc.
 
 Kevin Kinsey

Haha! That's funny for sure. :)
Supposing there are not too much people who can't unsubscribe
silently there must be many more others receiving the list
accidentally. On other side, it's not a huge victim public
because we'd get much more complaints. Anyway, if someone will
get some clue, let me know.

Yuri Grebenkin
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Re: Erroneous delivery of list e-mail (was Re: adding keyboard after reboot with no keyboard )

2007-04-10 Thread soralx

  I'd like everyone to note that I'm merely curious; this is the
  fourth person in 24 hours to say why in the world am I getting
  these e-mails? or please unsubscribe me, including 2 G-mail

do you think that it wasn't simply spam? I once got a finely crafted
spam with quoutes from the lists, which I read almost halfway before
realizing that I was losing the thread far too often, and maybe not
because of my logic unit being particularly slow that day...

Maybe what we're seeing is an emergent behaviour of the Internet --
distributed intelligence that got lonely and bored and wants to
chat? :-o I can't seem to think of a sane reason to send out messages
full of garbage that have a chance of being deleted close to 100%.
Doing that on a massive scale seems to me to be beyond any logic or
reason.

  Kevin Kinsey

[SorAlx]  ridin' VN1500-B2
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Logitech G15 Keyboard

2007-01-25 Thread Sam Fourman Jr.

Hello,

I Just bought a Logitech G15 Keyboard,and I would like to use all the
keys on it with FreeBSD.

could someone that knows more than I do, tell me if there is a chance
of getting this g15 daemon to work under FreeBSD.

maybe FreeBSD sensors could even be displayed on the LCD? (Wishful thinking?)

http://g15daemon.sourceforge.net/

Thank you for any Feedback

Sam Fourman Jr.
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