Re: interesting problem

2000-09-29 Thread Alfred Perlstein

* Tony Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000928 17:54] wrote:
 I really did not want to reply to this but since some people believe that I
 am just see-ing things, then I will set this straight.

No we don't Tony, we aren't claiming any stability in -current,
I'm sure people will remeber your initial bug report and eventually
work out a fix.  Unfortunatly for you they may also remeber how
you continued to hammer on this issue while completely deluding
yourself.

 
 I have a dual PPro-200 systems.  aha-3950u2 scsi card.  Teflon cables from
 scsi-cables.com.  Segate cheetah 4.5gig drive that runs FreeBSD5.0-Current
 since it came out.
 
 I have been running FreeBSD for years...  I ran 3.0 and 4.0 when they were
 /current and I never had these problems.

You were obviously luckier than I was at times.

 I cannot even get the thing
 (5.0-Current in recent days) to boot from boot floppies that you put on
 ftp://current.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386.  If you are producing
 an OS that does not boot on /current then say this publicly and not curse me
 out for your production of a non functional product.

We do, read on.

 I'm sure I could
 produce a set of non-functioning asm code that just crashes peoples
 machines, if your idea of development is this.  I don't believe that I need
 to write an email list for this.

Actually Tony, I'm unsure if you're able to produce _any_ code because
so I really can't remeber seeing any code produced by you.

You also seriously need to read the handbook,
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/current-stable.html:

  18.2.1.1. What is FreeBSD-CURRENT?

  FreeBSD-CURRENT is, quite literally, nothing more than a daily
  snapshot of the working sources for FreeBSD. These include work
  in progress, experimental changes and transitional mechanisms
  that may or may not be present in the next official release of
  the software. While many of us compile almost daily from
  FreeBSD-CURRENT sources, there are periods of time when the
  sources are literally un-compilable. These problems are generally
  resolved as expeditiously as possible, but whether or not
  FreeBSD-CURRENT sources bring disaster or greatly desired
  functionality can literally be a matter of which part of any
  given 24 hour period you grabbed them in!

It goes on to say:

  18.2.1.3. What is FreeBSD-CURRENT not?

   1.A fast-track to getting pre-release bits because you heard
   there is some cool new feature in there and you want to be the
   first on your block to have it.

   2.A quick way of getting bug fixes.

   3.In any way ``officially supported'' by us. We do our best to
   help people genuinely in one of the 3 ``legitimate'' FreeBSD-CURRENT
   categories, but we simply do not have the time to provide tech
   support for it. This is not because we are mean and nasty people
   who do not like helping people out (we would not even be doing
   FreeBSD if we were), it is literally because we cannot answer
   400 messages a day and actually work on FreeBSD! I am sure that,
   if given the choice between having us answer lots of questions
   or continuing to improve FreeBSD, most of you would vote for us
   improving it.

Can you imagine that!  Yup, you were warned, you were told, the
only thing we couldn't do (unfortunatly) is fly someone over to
fwap you with a rolled up newspaper when you initially thought
of running -current.

I think all three points are reason enough for you to stop using
-current.

 I have a better idea, how about an option on the install to save buffer
 cache to a floppy disk , or atleast the portion that caused the automatic
 reboot???   Gdb anyone?

Sure, send patches, follow my previous advice or simply piss off.

jeez,
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Re: interesting problem

2000-09-29 Thread Alfred Perlstein

* Thomas David Rivers [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000928 03:34] wrote:
 
  Alfred,
 
Just playing `devils advocate' here.  But, in some initial
  install situations, exactly how is the user, even the most 
  knowledgeable one, supposed to do much of anything if the 
  install itself doesn't work?  Not too much chance of building 
  a kernel, getting a crashdump, etc...

I think I just detailed how one could do that in my first two
responses.

Although it may be something we want to put off for awhile,
  being able to gather debugging information during a failed
  install would be rather nice.  I'm not sure how this could 
  happen; perhaps a crashdump to an MSDOS file system (if available)?
  Or, straight to a partition with some recovery program that
  reads the dump?  Or, over a serial line?  [Just tossing out ideas.]
  Maybe ficl can get involved and manage this?
 
I would keep this as one of those "maybe nice to have in the
  ideal future" ideas - but it's something to ponder...

Yes, it's a very good idea.  I've brought up changing the default
panic to output a traceback so that the user could post it, but
bringing it up is a far cry from implementing it.

  * even without debug symbols a traceback can be very helpful
if one can locate the IP and text addresses of the kernel.

However, he shouldn't have been using -current in the first
place, and when someone offers to reach out and help it's not the
time to get snippy about it.  (seriously, refusing to read the
handbook?)

I've been guilty of this sort of cluelessness and arrogance in the
past and I'm glad that a few people came down on me about my attitude
while at the same time offering extremely useful advice.  Jordan,
Mike Smith and John Polstra to name a few, all in one incident
actually.  I think without their application of knowledge and
smack-down I wouldn't have learned nearly as much.

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Re: sysinstall: Avoiding version checking of CD-ROM (patch included)

2000-09-29 Thread Jordan Hubbard

 Speaking about sysinstall, would you please check my PR (bin/21423, 
 URL:http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21423) ?

Done and fixed, thanks!  It should be in the next (2930) -current
snapshot in ftp://current.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/

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Re: sysinstall: Avoiding version checking of CD-ROM (patchincluded)

2000-09-29 Thread Makoto MATSUSHITA


jkh Done and fixed, thanks!

Wow, thank you ^_^

But.. maybe my PR is not clearly described, it does not fix current
situation; very sorry for my poor presentations.

Here is a current directory structure (just extracted tarballs) of
5-current as of Sep/29/2000.

% cd ~ftp/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/i386/livetree/5-LATEST/
% ls
COPYRIGHT   cdrom.inf   kernel.GENERIC  roottmp
bin dev mnt sbinusr
bootetc procsys var
% ls boot/kernel/kernel*
zsh: no matches found: boot/kernel/kernel*
% 

We can easily found that:

* Generic kernel is /kernel.GENERIC.
  (and sysinstall copies /kernel.GENERIC to /kernel when installed)
* There is no /boot/kernel/kernel. We cannot boot without kernel:)

So, it should be:

* Generic kernel go to /boot/kernel directory (I have no idea of about
  its filename).
* After installation, /boot/kernel/kernel exists.

To do that, we can:

* modify src/release/Makefile to put generic kernel under /boot/kernel.
* modify src/release/install.c to copy generic kernel to /boot/kernel/kernel.

or,

* modify src/release/Makefile to put generic kernel to /boot/kernel/kernel.
* modify src/release/install.c, not to do copying generic kernel.
  (this is done by rev. 1.283)

Sorry if I'm wrong,
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Re: My system hang with ACPI kernel thread

2000-09-29 Thread Munehiro Matsuda

From: Takanori Watanabe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 13:38:57 +0900
::With the addition of ACPI kernel thread, my system hangs in about 
::10 miniutes use after boot up. By disabling kernel thread, system
::runs just fine.
::
::Do you have any idea where to look at?
::I'll try and see what I can do myself.
::
::Please set debug.aml_debug and debug.acpi_debug to 1 and 
::see what will happen.

I'm sorry, there was a fault on my side.
I had old /modules directory (Pre SMPng patch), and for some reason
if enabled ACPI kernel thread, system hang.

I've removed everything under /modules and system seems to be happy!

So sorry for the false alarm.
  Haro
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ACPI megapatch

2000-09-29 Thread Mike Smith


Here's the latest ACPI megapatch:

 - Move all the register I/O into a separate file
 - Made all the I/O spaces use proper bus resources
 - Allocate the resources in machine-dependant code
 - Map ACPI-used memory in machine-dependant code
 - Create a machine-dependant "acpiprobe" device which just knows
   how to find and set up ACPI for the machine-independant code
 - Remove all the ACPI #ifdefs from non-ACPI code
 - Minor style and commenting fixes

Issues outstanding:

 - Need to remove superfluous headers
 - Need to decide the correct split between sys/acpi.h and 
   sys/dev/acpi/acpi.h in terms of functionality.

Comments, etc. all welcome as usual.




Index: conf/files
===
RCS file: /host/fs/local0/cvs/src/sys/conf/files,v
retrieving revision 1.416
diff -u -r1.416 files
--- conf/files  2000/09/23 22:21:39 1.416
+++ conf/files  2000/09/27 10:17:04
@@ -75,7 +75,8 @@
 #dev/aac/aac_debug.c   optional aac
 dev/aac/aac_disk.c optional aac
 dev/aac/aac_pci.c  optional aac pci
-dev/acpi/acpi.ccount acpi
+dev/acpi/acpi.coptional acpi
+dev/acpi/acpi_io.c optional acpi
 dev/acpi/acpi_powerres.c   optionalacpi
 dev/acpi/aml/aml_amlmem.c  optionalacpi
 dev/acpi/aml/aml_common.c  optionalacpi
Index: dev/acpi/acpi.c
===
RCS file: /host/fs/local0/cvs/src/sys/dev/acpi/acpi.c,v
retrieving revision 1.14
diff -u -r1.14 acpi.c
--- dev/acpi/acpi.c 2000/09/27 05:43:53 1.14
+++ dev/acpi/acpi.c 2000/09/29 07:54:01
@@ -52,7 +52,6 @@
 #include sys/rman.h
 
 #include sys/acpi.h
-
 #include dev/acpi/acpi.h /* for softc */
 
 #include dev/acpi/aml/aml_amlmem.h
@@ -63,38 +62,14 @@
 #include dev/acpi/aml/aml_parse.h
 #include dev/acpi/aml/aml_memman.h
 
-#include machine/acpi_machdep.h  /* for ACPI_BUS_SPACE_IO */
-
-/*
- * ACPI pmap subsystem
- */
-#define ACPI_SMAP_MAX_SIZE 16
-
-struct ACPIaddr {
-   int entries;
-   struct {
-   vm_offset_t pa_base;
-   vm_offset_t va_base;
-   vm_size_t   size;
-   u_int32_t   type;
-   } t [ACPI_SMAP_MAX_SIZE];
-};
-
-static void acpi_pmap_init(void);
-static void acpi_pmap_release(void);
-static vm_offset_t  acpi_pmap_ptv(vm_offset_t pa);
-static vm_offset_t  acpi_pmap_vtp(vm_offset_t va);
-static void acpi_free(struct acpi_softc *sc);
 
 /*
  * These items cannot be in acpi_softc because they are be initialized
  * before probing for the device.
  */
 
-static struct  ACPIaddr acpi_addr;
+struct ACPIaddr acpi_addr;
 struct ACPIrsdp *acpi_rsdp;
-static int acpi_port;
-static int acpi_irq;
 
 /* Character device */
 
@@ -122,32 +97,8 @@
 };
 
 /* 
- * ACPI register I/O 
+ * Miscellaneous utility functions 
  */
-#defineACPI_REGISTER_INPUT 0
-#defineACPI_REGISTER_OUTPUT1
-static void acpi_register_input(u_int32_t ioaddr,
-   u_int32_t *value, u_int32_t size);
-static void acpi_register_output(u_int32_t ioaddr,
-u_int32_t *value, u_int32_t size);
-static void acpi_enable_disable(acpi_softc_t *sc, boolean_t enable);
-static void acpi_io_pm1_status(acpi_softc_t *sc, boolean_t io,
-  u_int32_t *a, u_int32_t *b);
-static void acpi_io_pm1_enable(acpi_softc_t *sc, boolean_t io,
-  u_int32_t *a, u_int32_t *b);
-static void acpi_io_pm1_control(acpi_softc_t *sc, boolean_t io,
-   u_int32_t *a, u_int32_t *b);
-static void acpi_io_pm2_control(acpi_softc_t *sc, boolean_t io, u_int32_t *val);
-static void acpi_io_pm_timer(acpi_softc_t *sc, boolean_t io, u_int32_t *val);
-static void acpi_io_gpe0_status(acpi_softc_t *sc, boolean_t io, u_int32_t *val);
-static void acpi_io_gpe0_enable(acpi_softc_t *sc, boolean_t io, u_int32_t *val);
-static void acpi_io_gpe1_status(acpi_softc_t *sc, boolean_t io, u_int32_t *val);
-static void acpi_io_gpe1_enable(acpi_softc_t *sc, boolean_t io, u_int32_t *val);
-
-/* 
- * Miscellous utility functions 
- */
-static int  acpi_sdt_checksum(struct ACPIsdt * sdt);
 static void acpi_handle_dsdt(acpi_softc_t *sc);
 static void acpi_handle_facp(acpi_softc_t *sc, struct ACPIsdt *facp);
 static int  acpi_handle_rsdt(acpi_softc_t *sc);
@@ -164,8 +115,7 @@
 /* 
  * ACPI events
  */
-static void acpi_process_event(acpi_softc_t *sc,
-  u_int32_t status_a, u_int32_t status_b,
+static void acpi_process_event(acpi_softc_t *sc, u_int32_t status_e,
   u_int32_t status_0, u_int32_t status_1);
 static void acpi_intr(void *data);
 static void acpi_enable_events(acpi_softc_t *sc);
@@ -174,22 +124,22 @@
 /*
  * Bus interface 
  */
-static int  acpi_send_pm_event(acpi_softc_t *sc, u_int8_t 

Re: My system hang with ACPI kernel thread

2000-09-29 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI

Currently kernel thread seems broken, so mallocing storage in
acpi_queue_event() never be freed.  I think number of events at a
point of tme is limited and we can have static storage for the events.
The implementaion of sys/i386/apm/apm.c:apm_record_event() (it's for apmd)
would be a good example.
   
   I have a megapatch for acpi.c that I am nearly ready to commit which 
   converts it to use bus resources for all I/O allocations.  I'll fix this 
   in there, if you like.
  
  I'm interested in your patch.  Can I see it?
 
 Sure.  I'm not 100% sure it's going to work right, so please feel free 
 to tell me I've broken something...

I've just tried the patch, GREAT!  it seems working for me perfectly w/o
any functional changes, much better than before.  I'll do testing more.

I have some comments;
# most of them is not related with your patch :-) but I'd like to
# consult with you.

Can we separate the code which uses FreeBSD specific APIs and structs
into a other file or arrange them at one place?
Because I'm going to merge NetBSD porting effort, I want to avoid having
too many #ifdef __FreeBSD__.  The patch is available at
http://www.imou.to/~AoiMoe/UNIX-at-Random/acpi/acpi-freebsd-netbsd-changes-2000-09-24.diff.gz

Because of above reason, 
/*
 * Debugging, console output
 *
 * XXX this should really be using device_printf
 */
extern int acpi_debug;
#define ACPI_DEVPRINTF(args...) printf("acpi0: " args)

I don't use device_printf() here.
# Also we don't have more than 2 instances of acpi :-)


static void
acpi_trans_sleeping_state(acpi_softc_t *sc, u_int8_t state)
:
/* XXX should be MI */
/* XXX should always be called with interrupts enabled! */
ef = read_eflags();
disable_intr();

for this, I referred the comments in ACPI spec 7.5.2.
// Required environment:  Executing on the system boot
// processor.  All other processors stopped.  Interrupts --
// disabled.  All Power Resources (and devices) are in
// corresponding device state to support NewState.

I don't know much about IA64, I'm not sure {read|write}_eflags()
inline functions will be available on IA64.  Should we replace them
with save_intr() and restore_intr() ?  because seems more general.

Also we need to consider SMP.  There is no hack for it so far.
# I think APM BIOS Call need to be executed on the system boot
# processor too.


acpi_soft_off(void *data, int howto)
:
/* XXX Disable GPE intrrupt,or power on again in some machine */
acpi_io_gpe0_enable(sc, ACPI_REGISTER_OUTPUT, vala);
acpi_io_gpe1_enable(sc, ACPI_REGISTER_OUTPUT, vala);

This still give no effect on my PORTEGE.  I think this should be done
in earlier phase.  Maybe we'd better to have acpi_disable_events() and
call this at shutdown_pre_sync (or some such) for shutdown -p, also
call this in acpi_set_sleeping_state() for power button/acpiconf -s 5.


acpi_intr(void *data)
:
#if 0
/* Clear interrupt status */
val = enable;   /* XXX */
acpi_io_gpe0_status(sc, ACPI_REGISTER_OUTPUT, val);

/* Re-enable interrupt */
acpi_io_gpe0_enable(sc, ACPI_REGISTER_OUTPUT, enable);

acpi_debug = 0; /* Shut up again */
#endif

GPE1 too, right? :-)


acpi_attach(device_t dev)
:
sc-iores[i].rsc = bus_alloc_resource(dev, SYS_RES_IOPORT, 
sc-iores[i].rid,
  0, ~0, 1, RF_ACTIVE);
^^
I didn't understand clearly for long time, but this give us more
flexibility w/o problems if we call bus_set_resource() and set count
correctly, right?


#ifndef ACPI_NO_ENABLE_ON_BOOT
acpi_enable_disable(sc, 1);
acpi_enable_events(sc);
acpi_intr((void *)sc);
#endif

Should we remove them and have acpi_enalbe="YES" in /etc/rc.conf just line APM ?


And last thing, how about header file name and location?
some poeple suggested that
/sys/dev/acpi/acpi.h should be renamed to acpivar.h.  And
/sys/sys/acpi.h should be moved to /sys/dev/acpi.h (installed in
/usr/include/dev/acpi/acpi.h).  We didn't care and are not interested
in this matter at all so far, but it seems quite reasonable for me and
doesn't hurt anything.

And *real* last thing :-)

msmith the code in machdep.c.  Everything will move to acpi_machdep.c  I'll also 
msmith be deleting machine/acpi.h, as it's not necessary (and never was).

I think better to wait deleting until IA64 porting.  I'm not sure if
this file really unnecessary or not.

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Re: ACPI megapatch

2000-09-29 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI

Thanks a lot mike, these are mostly acceptable for me.

 Here's the latest ACPI megapatch:
 
  - Move all the register I/O into a separate file

Agreed.

  - Made all the I/O spaces use proper bus resources
  - Allocate the resources in machine-dependant code

I prefer previous patch because most of the code in i386/acpi_machdep.c
can be shared with IA64 I think.

  - Map ACPI-used memory in machine-dependant code

Agreed.

  - Create a machine-dependant "acpiprobe" device which just knows
how to find and set up ACPI for the machine-independant code

I think only machine-dependant sub-routines should be in acpi_machdep.c,
the rest common code should be moved back to dev/acpi/acpi.c.
The first half of acpiprobe_identify() is trying to find rsdp, so
renaming it to acpi_find_rsdp() (returns struct ACPIrsdp * or NULL),
moving the rest of acpiprobe_identify() to dev/acpi/acpi.c:acpi_identify()
and calling acpi_find_rsdp() from acpi_identify() would be better for me.
acpiprobe_mapmem() seems machine-dependant, so just renaming (acpi_mapmem() ?)
would be enough.
acpiprobe_facp(), I think, is MI, should be moved dev/acpi/acpi.c and
renamed (acpi_find_facp() ?).

In summary, my suggestions are
 - i386/i386/acpi_machdep.c
acpi_find_rsdp() and acpi_mapmem()
 - dev/acpi/acpi.c
acpi_identify() and acpi_find_facp()

  - Remove all the ACPI #ifdefs from non-ACPI code
  - Minor style and commenting fixes

Completely agreed.

 Issues outstanding:
 
  - Need to remove superfluous headers
  - Need to decide the correct split between sys/acpi.h and 
sys/dev/acpi/acpi.h in terms of functionality.

I'd like to move and rename them as I said in my previous mail,
sys/acpi.h - sys/dev/acpi/acpi.h
shared by both kernel and userland programs
sys/dev/acpi/acpi.h - sys/dev/acpi/acpivar.h
shared within kernel code (acpi stuff and related drivers)

That's my rough understanding, but I could be wrong :-)

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Re: ACPI megapatch

2000-09-29 Thread T.SHIOZAKI


From: Mitsuru IWASAKI [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [acpi-jp 691] Re: ACPI megapatch
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:05:17 +0900
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  Issues outstanding:
   - Need to remove superfluous headers
   - Need to decide the correct split between sys/acpi.h and 
 sys/dev/acpi/acpi.h in terms of functionality.
 I'd like to move and rename them as I said in my previous mail,
 sys/acpi.h - sys/dev/acpi/acpi.h
   shared by both kernel and userland programs
 sys/dev/acpi/acpi.h - sys/dev/acpi/acpivar.h
   shared within kernel code (acpi stuff and related drivers)

IMHO, it's desirable to use the name "acpi.h", because of conflict
with the file dumped by /usr/sbin/config.

I love :
  fooreg.h : device dependent and implementation independent
 structures, macros, and others.
  foovar.h : implementation dependent ones.


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Re: [acpi-jp 692] Re: ACPI megapatch

2000-09-29 Thread T.SHIOZAKI


From: "T.SHIOZAKI" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [acpi-jp 692] Re: ACPI megapatch
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 22:41:39 +0900 (JST)
Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 IMHO, it's desirable to use the name "acpi.h", because of conflict

Sorry, "it's desirable to avoid using ...".


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Re: ACPI megapatch

2000-09-29 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI

Hi,

  I'd like to move and rename them as I said in my previous mail,
  sys/acpi.h - sys/dev/acpi/acpi.h
  shared by both kernel and userland programs
  sys/dev/acpi/acpi.h - sys/dev/acpi/acpivar.h
  shared within kernel code (acpi stuff and related drivers)
 
 IMHO, it's desirable to use the name "acpi.h", because of conflict
 with the file dumped by /usr/sbin/config.
 
 I love :
   fooreg.h : device dependent and implementation independent
  structures, macros, and others.
   foovar.h : implementation dependent ones.

Thanks Shiozaki-san, I think `reg' is short for registers of the
target chip, correct?  In ACPI's case, PM1 register and some such
and maybe definitions for ACPI tables.
How about kernel/userland shareable stuff like ioctl?  for example,
usb(4) has this kind of definitions in dev/usb/usb.h, not in usbreg.h.
Is this a special case violating the guideline?
I think we can distinguish them like "usb.h" and dev/usb/usb.h,
also we will stop generating acpi.h in kernel build directory.

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Re: ACPI megapatch

2000-09-29 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI

 In summary, my suggestions are
  - i386/i386/acpi_machdep.c
   acpi_find_rsdp() and acpi_mapmem()
  - dev/acpi/acpi.c
   acpi_identify() and acpi_find_facp()

Here is a patch for your megapatch at
http://people.FreeBSD.org/~iwasaki/acpi/patch-for-megapatch.diff
I'll be happy if you accept and commit this :-)

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Re: ACPI megapatch

2000-09-29 Thread takawata

In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mitsuru IWASAKI wrote:
 In summary, my suggestions are
  - i386/i386/acpi_machdep.c
  acpi_find_rsdp() and acpi_mapmem()
  - dev/acpi/acpi.c
  acpi_identify() and acpi_find_facp()

Here is a patch for your megapatch at
http://people.FreeBSD.org/~iwasaki/acpi/patch-for-megapatch.diff
I'll be happy if you accept and commit this :-)


I think it is better bus attachment code is in MD part than in MI part.
And MD bus attachment code calls MI bus attachment code.

For example,Current acpi_probe code rename to acpi_probesubr and
 call it from acpi_probe in acpi_machdep.c . 

And probe method and identify method should not be confused.
Memory area check etc can be in MD acpi probe code.

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IPX requires 'device random'

2000-09-29 Thread Kevin M. Dulzo


I am not aware of the full status of IPX networking support in -current,
but I migrated my -stable kernel config as best I could.  Kernel compilation
completes, but linking fails due to a rand_ function not being present ( I do
not have the exact error handy, but can generate for anyone who wants it.) A
simple 'device random' to compile the support in statically rectifies the 
problem.

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setting device permissions for DEVFS

2000-09-29 Thread Alexander Langer

Hello!

What is the suggested best way to set permissions on devices in DEVFS?
(I want to chmod 664 /dev/acd0c to let users in the group operator
burn CD-R's).
Do we already have a common way that I missed?
Or is the best way to put it into rc.local (or similar)?

Thanks

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procfs info.

2000-09-29 Thread mirko . viviani

Ciao.

I need to know the exact format of the /proc/*/cmdline of FreeBSD. Actually
I'm using 4.1 and I have discovered that at the end of cmdline file there are
always 2 NULL characters.

Is this a standard behaviour of FBSD cmdline ? From 3.0 is it changed or
it will change ?

Thanks.

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Re: procfs info.

2000-09-29 Thread Dan Nelson

In the last episode (Sep 29), [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 I need to know the exact format of the /proc/*/cmdline of FreeBSD.
 Actually I'm using 4.1 and I have discovered that at the end of
 cmdline file there are always 2 NULL characters.

You sure?

$ uname -v
FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #69: Tue Sep  5 18:59:54 CDT 2000 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/DANSMP 
$ hd /proc/curproc/cmdline
  68 64 00 2f 70 72 6f 63  2f 63 75 72 70 72 6f 63  |hd./proc/curproc|
0010  2f 63 6d 64 6c 69 6e 65  00   |/cmdline.|
0019

$ uname -v
FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #6: Tue Aug  8 18:35:09 CDT 2000 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/compile/EMSSRV5 
$ hd /proc/curproc/cmdline
  68 64 00 2f 70 72 6f 63  2f 63 75 72 70 72 6f 63  |hd./proc/curproc|
0010  2f 63 6d 64 6c 69 6e 65  00   |/cmdline.|
0019

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Re: ACPI megapatch

2000-09-29 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI

 Here is a patch for your megapatch at
 http://people.FreeBSD.org/~iwasaki/acpi/patch-for-megapatch.diff
 I'll be happy if you accept and commit this :-)
 
 
 I think it is better bus attachment code is in MD part than in MI part.
 And MD bus attachment code calls MI bus attachment code.
 
 For example,Current acpi_probe code rename to acpi_probesubr and
  call it from acpi_probe in acpi_machdep.c . 

Hmm, I think you're talking about BI/BD.  Most of ACPI code must be
shared between IA32/IA64 (even bus interface code). Difference between
them is very limited, we can put them in acpi_machdep.c.  I like this
model.  NetBSD's pci code take this one (dev/pci/pci.c has MI code
like pcimattach(), arch/*/pci/pci_machdep.c have a set of MD
sub-routines for the specific machine architecture such as
pci_conf_read().).  I'm not sure this is correct or not, but it seems
reasonable for me.

 And probe method and identify method should not be confused.
 Memory area check etc can be in MD acpi probe code.

Yes, I think it's in acpi_machdep.c :-)
if not, which one?

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Re: procfs info.

2000-09-29 Thread John Polstra

In article [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I need to know the exact format of the /proc/*/cmdline of
 FreeBSD. Actually I'm using 4.1 and I have discovered that at the
 end of cmdline file there are always 2 NULL characters.

I'm not seeing that on my 4.x-stable system from about a month ago:

austin$ sleep 100 
[1] 67372
austin$ hd 67372/cmdline
  73 6c 65 65 70 00 31 30  30 00|sleep.100.|
000a

As you can see, there's just a single NUL at the end.

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Re: setting device permissions for DEVFS

2000-09-29 Thread Donn Miller

On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Alexander Langer wrote:

 What is the suggested best way to set permissions on devices in DEVFS?
 (I want to chmod 664 /dev/acd0c to let users in the group operator
 burn CD-R's).
 Do we already have a common way that I missed?

/etc/rc.devfs

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Re: sysinstall: Avoiding version checking of CD-ROM (patch included)

2000-09-29 Thread Jordan Hubbard

 % ls boot/kernel/kernel*
 zsh: no matches found: boot/kernel/kernel*

That's a different problem - there should be a boot/kernel/kernel.ko
file and I'm not sure why there isn't.  I'll talk to David O'Brien
about fixing it.

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Re: procfs info.

2000-09-29 Thread mirko . viviani

You wrote:

  I need to know the exact format of the /proc/*/cmdline of
  FreeBSD. Actually I'm using 4.1 and I have discovered that at the
  end of cmdline file there are always 2 NULL characters.
 
 I'm not seeing that on my 4.x-stable system from about a month ago:

Sorry, I just found a bug in the code. :(

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Re: procfs info.

2000-09-29 Thread Brian O'Shea

On Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 08:49:06PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You wrote:
 
   I need to know the exact format of the /proc/*/cmdline of
   FreeBSD. Actually I'm using 4.1 and I have discovered that at the
   end of cmdline file there are always 2 NULL characters.
  
  I'm not seeing that on my 4.x-stable system from about a month ago:

Hmm, but look at this:

[panic:/root]# uname -a
FreeBSD panic.localdomain 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #0: Sat Sep 
16 16:24:39 PDT 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/local/cvs
up/current/src/sys/PANIC  i386

[panic:/root]# hd /proc/0/cmdline   
  73 77 61 70 70 65 72 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |swapper.|
0010
[panic:/root]# hd /proc/10/cmdline 
  69 64 6c 65 00 65 72 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |idle.er.|
0010
[panic:/root]# hd /proc/11/cmdline   
  73 6f 66 74 69 6e 74 65  72 72 75 70 74 00 00 00  |softinterrupt...|
0010
[panic:/root]# hd /proc/12/cmdline   
  69 72 71 31 34 3a 20 61  74 61 30 00 00 00 00 00  |irq14: ata0.|
0010
[panic:/root]# hd /proc/13/cmdline 
  69 72 71 31 35 3a 20 61  74 61 31 00 00 00 00 00  |irq15: ata1.|
0010
[panic:/root]# hd /proc/14/cmdline 
  69 72 71 31 31 3a 20 75  68 63 69 30 2b 00 00 00  |irq11: uhci0+...|
0010
[panic:/root]# hd /proc/15/cmdline 
  69 72 71 36 3a 20 66 64  63 30 00 00 00 00 00 00  |irq6: fdc0..|
0010
[panic:/root]# hd /proc/16/cmdline 
  69 72 71 31 3a 20 61 74  6b 62 64 30 00 00 00 00  |irq1: atkbd0|
0010

There seem to be lots of nulls at the end of the names of kernel
threads (padding their names to 16 bytes).  Not that it matters,
but it's strange.

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Re: interesting problem

2000-09-29 Thread Gerhard Sittig

On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 21:45 -0500, Tony Johnson wrote:
 
 Since I am complaining then I need to figure out what U have
 done to make 5.0-CURRENT crash??  Well atleast U admit that U
 do not know and U do not care.  So anyone who is using FreeBSD
 should also not care??  This is more screwed up then I thought
 and people @FreeBSD have made this much harder then necessary.

irony mode on
It seems you finally got it.  Somebody thought about "what can
I do to break _his_ system?  I have some spare time and I feel
bored ...".
irony mode off

But it could be just as well the way the handbook told you:
-CURRENT is the place where development takes place.  Using
-CURRENT you're supposed to know what you do and how to help
yourself.

What the participants in the past thread wanted you to do is to
provide some more info to make them able to help you better.
Claiming "you broke it somewhere - guess where - , fix it or I'll
leave" will make you get answers like "feel free to choose the
second".  Chances are that the "broken code" works for other
people.  Only you and nobody else can provide the info what
exactly breaks things for _you_ -- nobody else has the system to
repeat and explore it.


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Re: ACPI megapatch

2000-09-29 Thread Mike Smith

   I'd like to move and rename them as I said in my previous mail,
   sys/acpi.h - sys/dev/acpi/acpi.h
 shared by both kernel and userland programs
   sys/dev/acpi/acpi.h - sys/dev/acpi/acpivar.h
 shared within kernel code (acpi stuff and related drivers)
  
  IMHO, it's desirable to use the name "acpi.h", because of conflict
  with the file dumped by /usr/sbin/config.
  
  I love :
fooreg.h : device dependent and implementation independent
   structures, macros, and others.
foovar.h : implementation dependent ones.
 
 Thanks Shiozaki-san, I think `reg' is short for registers of the
 target chip, correct?  In ACPI's case, PM1 register and some such
 and maybe definitions for ACPI tables.
 How about kernel/userland shareable stuff like ioctl?  for example,
 usb(4) has this kind of definitions in dev/usb/usb.h, not in usbreg.h.
 Is this a special case violating the guideline?
 I think we can distinguish them like "usb.h" and dev/usb/usb.h,
 also we will stop generating acpi.h in kernel build directory.

Typically you would have:

acpivar.h   Data structures defined by implementation
acpireg.h   Data structures defined by interface
acpiio.hInterface to userland

Since we're all in agreement, I'll move to these.

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Re: ACPI megapatch

2000-09-29 Thread Mike Smith

 Thanks a lot mike, these are mostly acceptable for me.
 
   - Made all the I/O spaces use proper bus resources
   - Allocate the resources in machine-dependant code
 
 I prefer previous patch because most of the code in i386/acpi_machdep.c
 can be shared with IA64 I think.

I'm not so sure about that.  I suspect that the IA64 code is going to be
using the 'generic address' structures and the x-fields in eg. the FACT.
It won't be using the bios signature search either, or the int15
interface.  Realistically, the code in acpi_machdep.c is very simple.a

I also think that if I'm going to continue to use a private identify 
method to attach ACPI (IMO a good idea) then I want to keep its 
implementation as separate from the 'generic' ACPI code as possible.  The 
pmap interface and one checksum routine is all that the current division 
uses, and that's fairly clean.

   - Create a machine-dependant "acpiprobe" device which just knows
 how to find and set up ACPI for the machine-independant code
 
 I think only machine-dependant sub-routines should be in acpi_machdep.c,
 the rest common code should be moved back to dev/acpi/acpi.c.
 The first half of acpiprobe_identify() is trying to find rsdp, so
 renaming it to acpi_find_rsdp() (returns struct ACPIrsdp * or NULL),
 moving the rest of acpiprobe_identify() to dev/acpi/acpi.c:acpi_identify()
 and calling acpi_find_rsdp() from acpi_identify() would be better for me.
 acpiprobe_mapmem() seems machine-dependant, so just renaming (acpi_mapmem() ?)
 would be enough.
 acpiprobe_facp(), I think, is MI, should be moved dev/acpi/acpi.c and
 renamed (acpi_find_facp() ?).

That would be possible, but as I mentioned above, adding support for the 
generic-address formats is going to make things *very* messy.

I get a strong feeling that whoever was responsible for making sure that 
ACPI stayed sensible has quit or been fired.  There are a lot of recent 
changes that are just plain *stupid*.

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Re: ACPI megapatch

2000-09-29 Thread Mike Smith

 And probe method and identify method should not be confused.
 Memory area check etc can be in MD acpi probe code.

Can you explain what you mean here a bit more?  The FACT lookup and 
resource establishment need to be done in the identify routine, not the 
probe routine...

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Re: ACPI megapatch

2000-09-29 Thread Mitsuru IWASAKI

Hi,

  I prefer previous patch because most of the code in i386/acpi_machdep.c
  can be shared with IA64 I think.
 
 I'm not so sure about that.  I suspect that the IA64 code is going to be
 using the 'generic address' structures and the x-fields in eg. the FACT.
 It won't be using the bios signature search either, or the int15
 interface.  Realistically, the code in acpi_machdep.c is very simple.a
 
 I also think that if I'm going to continue to use a private identify 
 method to attach ACPI (IMO a good idea) then I want to keep its 
 implementation as separate from the 'generic' ACPI code as possible.  The 
 pmap interface and one checksum routine is all that the current division 
 uses, and that's fairly clean.

OK, understood.  How about having MD sub-routine in the same interface
(say acpi_set_resources() or acpi_create_instance() or whatever) for
i386 and ia64?  Then generic ACPI identify method calls suitable
sub-routine depending on machine architecture.

 - i386/i386/acpi_machdep.c
acpi_set_resources() (ex-acpiprobe_identify())
 - ia64/ia64/acpi_machdep.c
acpi_set_resources()

 - dev/acpi/acpi.c
acpi_identify()
this is quite simple, just do simple error checking and
call acpi_set_resources() then return.

Is this good for you too?


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Re: ACPI megapatch

2000-09-29 Thread Mike Smith

 OK, understood.  How about having MD sub-routine in the same interface
 (say acpi_set_resources() or acpi_create_instance() or whatever) for
 i386 and ia64?  Then generic ACPI identify method calls suitable
 sub-routine depending on machine architecture.
 
  - i386/i386/acpi_machdep.c
   acpi_set_resources() (ex-acpiprobe_identify())
  - ia64/ia64/acpi_machdep.c
   acpi_set_resources()
 
  - dev/acpi/acpi.c
   acpi_identify()
   this is quite simple, just do simple error checking and
   call acpi_set_resources() then return.
 
 Is this good for you too?

It's closer.  I just realised that we need a way of creating resources 
for SystemIO and SystemMemory AML objects as well.  I think I've worked 
this out too; I'll try to get it worked out today and send you a patch 
this evening.  I'm following your request to get the bus-dependant parts 
split out, but I do *not* think that we should be committing any of the 
NetBSD code to the FreeBSD source tree (this has been a failure in the 
past), or vice versa.

Meanwhile, my laptop is getting very hot. 8)

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Re: Repeated panic out of chgsbsize

2000-09-29 Thread Don Lewis

On Sep 29, 11:30am, Greg Lehey wrote:
} Subject: Repeated panic out of chgsbsize
} In the past couple of days, I've had a couple of panics out of chgsbsize:
} 
} (kgdb) bt

 [ snip ]

} #12 0xc01cbac9 in panic (fmt=0xc0356920 "reducing sbsize: lost count, uid = %d") at 
../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:553
} #13 0xc01c8d7b in chgsbsize (uid=50, diff=-17520, max=9223372036854775807) at 
../../kern/kern_proc.c:206
} #14 0xc01ee6aa in sbrelease (sb=0xcdc091f4, so=0xcdc09180) at 
../../kern/uipc_socket2.c:453
} #15 0xc01eb9fb in sofree (so=0xcdc09180) at ../../kern/uipc_socket.c:261
} #16 0xc0221e0b in in_pcbdetach (inp=0xce1c3aa0) at ../../netinet/in_pcb.c:542
} #17 0xc022c462 in tcp_close (tp=0xce1c3b60) at ../../netinet/tcp_subr.c:711
} #18 0xc0229bf6 in tcp_input (m=0xc0e96500, off0=20, proto=6) at 
../../netinet/tcp_input.c:2012
} #19 0xc02247ee in ip_input (m=0xc0e96500) at ../../netinet/ip_input.c:756
} #20 0xc022484b in ipintr () at ../../netinet/ip_input.c:784
} #21 0xc0309195 in swi_net_next ()

That version of the per-uid accounting implementation has some race
conditions between the kernel top and bottom halves.  I'd recommend
upgrading to PRE_SMPNG.


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Fwd: [cvs commit: src/lib/libc/net hesiod.c]

2000-09-29 Thread Jacques A. Vidrine

If you have machines running -CURRENT from September 9 - September
29, _and_ you created an /etc/nsswitch.conf with any of `passwd: dns',
`group: dns', `passwd_compat: dns', `group_compat: dns', then you
are vulnerable to a local attack.

So upgrade :-) 
(or just apply the small patch)
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Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 05:56:34 -0700 (PDT)
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: cvs commit: src/lib/libc/net hesiod.c

nectar  2000/09/29 05:56:34 PDT

  Modified files:
lib/libc/net hesiod.c 
  Log:
  Ignore HESIOD_CONFIG and HES_DOMAIN environmental variables for
  set-user-ID and set-group-ID programs.
  
  Suggested by: Danny Braniss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.2   +13 -3 src/lib/libc/net/hesiod.c
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Re: IPX requires 'device random'

2000-09-29 Thread Boris Popov

On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Kevin M. Dulzo wrote:

   I am not aware of the full status of IPX networking support in -current,
 but I migrated my -stable kernel config as best I could.  Kernel compilation
 completes, but linking fails due to a rand_ function not being present ( I do
 not have the exact error handy, but can generate for anyone who wants it.) A
 simple 'device random' to compile the support in statically rectifies the 
 problem.

Yes, 'device random' is required for now.

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Re: ACPI megapatch

2000-09-29 Thread Mike Smith


Ok.  Based on all the suggestions, received today, and some more ideas 
besides, here's the latest megapatch.

 - Move all register I/O into a new file
 - Move event handling into a new file
 - Move headers to acpivar/acpireg/acpiio
 - Move find-RSDT and find-ACPI-owened-memory into acpi_machdep
 - Allocate all resources (except OperationRegions in AML) using
   real resources.  AML fix will now be easy though.
 - Remove all ACPI #ifdefs
 - Minor style and commenting fixes
 - Removed unnecessary #includes

Please test this; there are lots of opportunities for error in these 
changes.  In particular, I am afraid that I may have broken I/O from AML 
bytecode.  Hopefully with this committed I can finally get to work on the 
thermal management. 8)




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Re: ACPI megapatch

2000-09-29 Thread Mike Smith


As Iwasaki-san pointed out, I left acpi_event.c out of the previous 
megapatch.  Rather than resend the entire thing, you can fetch the 
complete patch from:

  http://people.freebsd.org/~msmith/acpi-2929.diff.gz

Regards,
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