Re: -current install on large disk in non-LBA mode

2002-11-01 Thread John Baldwin

On 01-Nov-2002 stephan mantler wrote:
> John Baldwin wrote:
>> Sectors more than 63 are not allowed for IDE drives at all.
>> What happens when you use the LBA geometry?  Does the drive
>> not boot properly after being installed?
> 
> Well, I did try LBA as well, but couldn't boot at all. boot2 did
> let me look at the root directory, but any further investigation
> (like trying 0:da(0,a)/boot/? ) produced junk and/or killed boot2.
> The Windows partition also didn't boot.
> 
> Btw. according to http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/bios/modesECHS-c.html
> the CHS parameters *are* within limits of the IDE/ATA standard;
> the "Large" mode is off limits since it can't get the Cylinder
> cound below 1024 without exceeding the max Heads.
> 
> *sigh* what a mess :-)

The problem is that the _BIOS_ restricts to 63 sectors per head. :)
Not ATA.  If windows is the first slice on the disk then it might
seem to work ok by accident.

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Re: -current install on large disk in non-LBA mode

2002-11-01 Thread stephan mantler
John Baldwin wrote:

Sectors more than 63 are not allowed for IDE drives at all.
What happens when you use the LBA geometry?  Does the drive
not boot properly after being installed?


Well, I did try LBA as well, but couldn't boot at all. boot2 did
let me look at the root directory, but any further investigation
(like trying 0:da(0,a)/boot/? ) produced junk and/or killed boot2.
The Windows partition also didn't boot.

Btw. according to http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/bios/modesECHS-c.html
the CHS parameters *are* within limits of the IDE/ATA standard;
the "Large" mode is off limits since it can't get the Cylinder
cound below 1024 without exceeding the max Heads.

*sigh* what a mess :-)

/step

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RE: -current install on large disk in non-LBA mode

2002-10-31 Thread John Baldwin

On 01-Nov-2002 stephan mantler wrote:
> tonight i tried once again to install from 5.0-DP1 and the
> 2002-10-25 snapshot media. it has been interesting.
> 
> the disk i'm trying to install to is a seagate ST360021A
> 60G disk with a 30G windows partition already installed.
> the BIOS accepts it either as a 28733/16/255 Cyl/Hd/Sec CHS,
> 1915/240/255 "Large", or 7297/255/63 LBA disk (yes, both
> CHS and Large with 255 sectors).
> I had the BIOS set to "auto" during the initial install, which
> apparently defaulted to CHS mode. Windows is happy to work in
> both CHS and Large modes, so i subsequently tried both
> settings for the FreeBSD install.
> 
> However, sysinstall (neither from the 4.7-mini ISO nor the
> 5.0 snapshots i have) refuses to accept either and
> insists on the LBA geometry. using  to manually set the
> geometry doesn't help ("you have entered an invalid geometry,
> a more likely blah blah"). Wizard Mode let me enter the BIOS
> geometry but apparently refused to write anything back to disk.
> 
> My next try was to create the partitions (er, slices) in Windows
> and try to go from there, but that didn't work out either. Disklabel
> just wouldn't cooperate.
> 
> For the time being I'll wipe out another disk and install there,
> but i sure wonder which detail i've missed.

Sectors more than 63 are not allowed for IDE drives at all.
What happens when you use the LBA geometry?  Does the drive
not boot properly after being installed?

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-current install on large disk in non-LBA mode

2002-10-31 Thread stephan mantler
tonight i tried once again to install from 5.0-DP1 and the
2002-10-25 snapshot media. it has been interesting.

the disk i'm trying to install to is a seagate ST360021A
60G disk with a 30G windows partition already installed.
the BIOS accepts it either as a 28733/16/255 Cyl/Hd/Sec CHS,
1915/240/255 "Large", or 7297/255/63 LBA disk (yes, both
CHS and Large with 255 sectors).
I had the BIOS set to "auto" during the initial install, which
apparently defaulted to CHS mode. Windows is happy to work in
both CHS and Large modes, so i subsequently tried both
settings for the FreeBSD install.

However, sysinstall (neither from the 4.7-mini ISO nor the
5.0 snapshots i have) refuses to accept either and
insists on the LBA geometry. using  to manually set the
geometry doesn't help ("you have entered an invalid geometry,
a more likely blah blah"). Wizard Mode let me enter the BIOS
geometry but apparently refused to write anything back to disk.

My next try was to create the partitions (er, slices) in Windows
and try to go from there, but that didn't work out either. Disklabel
just wouldn't cooperate.

For the time being I'll wipe out another disk and install there,
but i sure wonder which detail i've missed.

regards,
-stephan



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