Re: 3D graphic cards

2003-07-11 Thread Scott M. Likens
On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 11:24, Brian Reichert wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 11:34:00AM -0700, Scott M. Likens wrote:
> > That's funny knowing I have a ATI Radeon 7200 and I have ALWAYS
> > supported FreeBSD and the ATI Radeon for ages.  Ever since one person
> > known as 'erek' showed me DRI-HEAD i've learned that XFree86 4.3.0 is
> > just a little outdated.
> 
> Is 'DRI-HEAD' a CVS tag?
> 

no 

it's just generic terms... just do co without any tags... and it'll be
fine.



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Re: 3D graphic cards

2003-07-11 Thread Brian Reichert
On Thu, Jul 10, 2003 at 11:34:00AM -0700, Scott M. Likens wrote:
> That's funny knowing I have a ATI Radeon 7200 and I have ALWAYS
> supported FreeBSD and the ATI Radeon for ages.  Ever since one person
> known as 'erek' showed me DRI-HEAD i've learned that XFree86 4.3.0 is
> just a little outdated.

Is 'DRI-HEAD' a CVS tag?

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Re: 3D graphic cards

2003-07-10 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Bruno Afonso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> No they don't. I have a radeon 7200 and at the moment the support
> seems to be broken (I don't think anyone has updated XFree to fix
> it). This is on 5.1. Search the -current archives and you will someone
> also complaining about it.

I have -CURRENT boxes with 7000s and 7500s, and they work like a
charm.

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Re: 3D graphic cards

2003-07-10 Thread Scott M. Likens
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 07:03, Bruno Afonso wrote:
> Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
> 
> > "Julian St." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> >>is there any list that provides information about what graphic cards
> >>on FreeBSD have supported 3D acceleration? (I need only X-Video
> >>support in particular, but it seems tied to 3D acceleration).
> > 
> > 
> > http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/dri/
> > 
> > Radeon-based cards (up to 8500) are fairly cheap and work well.
> 
> No they don't. I have a radeon 7200 and at the moment the support seems 
> to be broken (I don't think anyone has updated XFree to fix it). This is 
> on 5.1. Search the -current archives and you will someone also 
> complaining about it.

That's funny knowing I have a ATI Radeon 7200 and I have ALWAYS
supported FreeBSD and the ATI Radeon for ages.  Ever since one person
known as 'erek' showed me DRI-HEAD i've learned that XFree86 4.3.0 is
just a little outdated.

I use DRI-HEAD on my other server that is using a Matrox G400 Dual Head
also, works snappy on 5.1

I stopped relying on XFree to keep updating their stuff along time ago. 
I've had problems with DRI admitidly but it works now.

They get the kinks out in waves if you ask me.

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Re: 3D graphic cards

2003-07-10 Thread Bruno Afonso
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:

"Julian St." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

is there any list that provides information about what graphic cards
on FreeBSD have supported 3D acceleration? (I need only X-Video
support in particular, but it seems tied to 3D acceleration).


http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/dri/

Radeon-based cards (up to 8500) are fairly cheap and work well.
No they don't. I have a radeon 7200 and at the moment the support seems 
to be broken (I don't think anyone has updated XFree to fix it). This is 
on 5.1. Search the -current archives and you will someone also 
complaining about it.

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Re: 3D graphic cards

2003-07-09 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
"Julian St." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> is there any list that provides information about what graphic cards
> on FreeBSD have supported 3D acceleration? (I need only X-Video
> support in particular, but it seems tied to 3D acceleration).

http://people.freebsd.org/~anholt/dri/

Radeon-based cards (up to 8500) are fairly cheap and work well.

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Re: 3D graphic cards

2003-06-29 Thread Andy Sparrow

> I thought most of the GATOS stuff had been merged into 4.3. At least I
> have had no problems with Xv on my Radeon 7000 with XFree86 4.3.0 and
> I seem to recall that support was claimed for all Radeons except,
> perhaps the 9500.

Perhaps for other cards, but there's still no native Xv support for 
Mach64-based adaptors (such as the Rage Mobility M1 fitted to many 
laptops) in 4.3, you need the GATOS drivers for this.

(The M6 fitted to many slighly later laptops is a completely different 
chipset
that uses the Radeon driver, IIRC. Love it when Marketing pull BS like 
this)

Cheers,

AS






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Re: 3D graphic cards

2003-06-28 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 09:13:45 -0700
> From: Andy Sparrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > > You might want to try the Gatos drivers from http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ . 
> > > With this driver, I got the ATi chipset in my laptop working with Xv support. 
> > 
> > I've just visited the page. Looks promising, indeed, but I'm a bit puzzled. One 
> > binary release for FreeBSD _and_ Linux?
> 
> Yes, and most other Intel x86-based OS's. The X server contains support 
> for on-demand, OS- and even binary-format independent module loading.
> 
> See:
> 
>   http://www.xfree86.org/~dawes/4.3.0/DESIGN17.html#65
> 
> The GATOS binary drivers (originally compiled for Linux) have been 
> working for me on my ATI-based laptop for a long time (multiple 
> versions, natch), never a problem. I'm told they compile fine, but I've 
> never bothered.

I thought most of the GATOS stuff had been merged into 4.3. At least I
have had no problems with Xv on my Radeon 7000 with XFree86 4.3.0 and
I seem to recall that support was claimed for all Radeons except,
perhaps the 9500.

Before the 4.3.0 release, I ran the radeon and ati drivers built from
CVS on a Linux system. (At least until the API changed.) XFree86
drivers for x86 processors should be OS independent. This was some
really cool work by the XFree86 folks.
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Re: 3D graphic cards

2003-06-28 Thread Andy Sparrow

> > You might want to try the Gatos drivers from http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ . 
> > With this driver, I got the ATi chipset in my laptop working with Xv support. 
> 
> I've just visited the page. Looks promising, indeed, but I'm a bit puzzled. One 
> binary release for FreeBSD _and_ Linux?

Yes, and most other Intel x86-based OS's. The X server contains support 
for on-demand, OS- and even binary-format independent module loading.

See:

http://www.xfree86.org/~dawes/4.3.0/DESIGN17.html#65

The GATOS binary drivers (originally compiled for Linux) have been 
working for me on my ATI-based laptop for a long time (multiple 
versions, natch), never a problem. I'm told they compile fine, but I've 
never bothered.

Cheers,

AS




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Re: 3D graphic cards

2003-06-28 Thread Julian St.
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 17:32:51 +0200
"Julian St." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 15:19:55 +0200
> Arjan van Leeuwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > You might want to try the Gatos drivers from http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ . 
> > With this driver, I got the ATi chipset in my laptop working with Xv support. 
> 
> I've just visited the page. Looks promising, indeed, but I'm a bit puzzled. One 
> binary release for FreeBSD _and_ Linux?

Hey, it works. Thank you very much.

Regards,
Julian
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Re: 3D graphic cards

2003-06-28 Thread Julian St.
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 15:19:55 +0200
Arjan van Leeuwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> You might want to try the Gatos drivers from http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ . 
> With this driver, I got the ATi chipset in my laptop working with Xv support. 

I've just visited the page. Looks promising, indeed, but I'm a bit puzzled. One binary 
release for FreeBSD _and_ Linux?
 
> 3D acceleration is not tied to Xv support, in fact, there are many video 
> drivers that support Xv but not 3D (open source nv drivers, newer ATi drivers 
> for Radeon 9500, 9700 and 9800, the gatos drivers...).

The XFree86 nv driver didn't support Xv with my TNT2 Ultra, last checked yesterday or 
so, but that's not quite important for now.

Regards,
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Re: 3D graphic cards

2003-06-28 Thread Arjan van Leeuwen
Hi,

You might want to try the Gatos drivers from http://gatos.sourceforge.net/ . 
With this driver, I got the ATi chipset in my laptop working with Xv support. 

3D acceleration is not tied to Xv support, in fact, there are many video 
drivers that support Xv but not 3D (open source nv drivers, newer ATi drivers 
for Radeon 9500, 9700 and 9800, the gatos drivers...).

Best regards,

Arjan van Leeuwen

On Saturday 28 June 2003 14:28, Julian St. wrote:
> Hello,
>
> is there any list that provides information about what graphic cards on
> FreeBSD have supported 3D acceleration? (I need only X-Video support in
> particular, but it seems tied to 3D acceleration).
>
> I just learned that the following card is unsupported: :)
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0: class=0x03 card=0x00081002 chip=0x474d1002 rev=0x65
> hdr=0x00 vendor   = 'ATI Technologies'
> device   = 'Rage XL AGP 2x'
> class= display
> subclass = VGA
>
>
> Regards,
> Julian

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Re: 3D graphic cards

2003-06-28 Thread Thierry Herbelot
Le Saturday 28 June 2003 14:28, Julian St. a écrit :
> Hello,
>
> is there any list that provides information about what graphic cards on
> FreeBSD have supported 3D acceleration? (I need only X-Video support in
> particular, but it seems tied to 3D acceleration).

Hello,

you may want to have a look at NVidia boards - even the XFree Open Source has 
XVideo support (3D support only comes with the binary NVidia driver).

TfH

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3D graphic cards

2003-06-28 Thread Julian St.
Hello,

is there any list that provides information about what graphic cards on FreeBSD have 
supported 3D acceleration? (I need only X-Video support in particular, but it seems 
tied to 3D acceleration).

I just learned that the following card is unsupported: :)

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0: class=0x03 card=0x00081002 chip=0x474d1002 rev=0x65 hdr=0x00
vendor   = 'ATI Technologies'
device   = 'Rage XL AGP 2x'
class= display
subclass = VGA


Regards,
Julian
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