Re: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.3.36 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD)
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 20:45:13 +0100, =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Andr=E9 Hentschel?= > said: > > >> >>> > >> >>> To answer your question directly, I have put no thought or effort into > >> >>> wine64. > >> >> > >> >> There is still a need for the 32bit wine, as the wow64 build will ONLY > >> >> run 64bit windows apps, so for the majority of applications and games, > >> >> we'll still need the 32bit wine. > >> > > >> > Is that because wow64 is unstable in wine64? > >> > > >> > Wow64's reason for existence is to run 32-bit Windows binaries on 64-bit > >> > Windows/Wine and it works pretty well for most applications. > >> > > >> > __Martin > >> > ___ > >> > freebsd-emulation at freebsd.org mailing list > >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-emulation > >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-emulation-unsubscribe at > >> > freebsd.org" > >> wow64 doesnt -exist- in wine64 unless you compile the 32bit wine > >> alongside it. > >> > >> You have to build it twice, to get two binaries "wine" and "wine64" and > >> if you build them "properly" what happens when you attempt to execute a > >> 64bit app with "wine" it's automatically relaunched with "wine64" But > >> the reverse is NOT true. > > > > OK, that's what I would call unstable. Eventually though, I would expect a > > packaged wine64 to include wow64, just like Windows does. > > That's not unstable, that's the way it needs to be done. Yes, sorry, I didn't mean to sound critical of Wine. > To clarify this confusing thread: > wine64 as standalone can run 64-bit windows apps (on a 64-bit processor of > course) > wine(32) can run 32-bit windows apps > a wow64 setup means wine64 and wine(32) side by side with some > exchange mechanisms to run 32-bit apps in the same wineprefix as 64-bit ones > > Linux distros handle packaging that differently: > fedora uses the i386 package as a dependency, arch builds both together I'm glad that it is just a packaging issue (the original topic of this thread). __Martin ___ freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-emulation To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-emulation-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.3.36 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD)
>> >>> The latter makes this statement "Wine 64bit works at the moment only on >> >>> Linux." which would indicate that, at this stage, FreeBSD is precluded. >> >>> That, >> >>> however, is just my speculation. worth a try :) (be free to report bugs about not working on freebsd to wine as enhancement) >> >>> >> >>> To answer your question directly, I have put no thought or effort into >> >>> wine64. >> >> >> >> There is still a need for the 32bit wine, as the wow64 build will ONLY >> >> run 64bit windows apps, so for the majority of applications and games, >> >> we'll still need the 32bit wine. >> > >> > Is that because wow64 is unstable in wine64? >> > >> > Wow64's reason for existence is to run 32-bit Windows binaries on 64-bit >> > Windows/Wine and it works pretty well for most applications. >> > >> > __Martin >> > ___ >> > freebsd-emulation at freebsd.org mailing list >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-emulation >> > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-emulation-unsubscribe at >> > freebsd.org" >> wow64 doesnt -exist- in wine64 unless you compile the 32bit wine >> alongside it. >> >> You have to build it twice, to get two binaries "wine" and "wine64" and >> if you build them "properly" what happens when you attempt to execute a >> 64bit app with "wine" it's automatically relaunched with "wine64" But >> the reverse is NOT true. > > OK, that's what I would call unstable. Eventually though, I would expect a > packaged wine64 to include wow64, just like Windows does. That's not unstable, that's the way it needs to be done. To clarify this confusing thread: wine64 as standalone can run 64-bit windows apps (on a 64-bit processor of course) wine(32) can run 32-bit windows apps a wow64 setup means wine64 and wine(32) side by side with some exchange mechanisms to run 32-bit apps in the same wineprefix as 64-bit ones Linux distros handle packaging that differently: fedora uses the i386 package as a dependency, arch builds both together -- Best Regards, André Hentschel ___ freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-emulation To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-emulation-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.3.36 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD)
> On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 11:47:40 -0600, Chuck Burns said: > > On 01/11/12 10:24, Martin Simmons wrote: > >> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:20:04 -0600, Chuck Burns said: > >> > >> On 01/10/12 10:49, David Naylor wrote: > >>> I wasn't aware of WoW64 (and how it will make my packages redundent :->). > >>> I > >>> see there are two wiki pages: > >>>+ http://wiki.winehq.org/Wine64 > >>>+ http://wiki.winehq.org/Wine64ForPackagers > >>> > >>> The latter makes this statement "Wine 64bit works at the moment only on > >>> Linux." which would indicate that, at this stage, FreeBSD is precluded. > >>> That, > >>> however, is just my speculation. > >>> > >>> To answer your question directly, I have put no thought or effort into > >>> wine64. > >> > >> There is still a need for the 32bit wine, as the wow64 build will ONLY > >> run 64bit windows apps, so for the majority of applications and games, > >> we'll still need the 32bit wine. > > > > Is that because wow64 is unstable in wine64? > > > > Wow64's reason for existence is to run 32-bit Windows binaries on 64-bit > > Windows/Wine and it works pretty well for most applications. > > > > __Martin > > ___ > > freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-emulation > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-emulation-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > wow64 doesnt -exist- in wine64 unless you compile the 32bit wine > alongside it. > > You have to build it twice, to get two binaries "wine" and "wine64" and > if you build them "properly" what happens when you attempt to execute a > 64bit app with "wine" it's automatically relaunched with "wine64" But > the reverse is NOT true. OK, that's what I would call unstable. Eventually though, I would expect a packaged wine64 to include wow64, just like Windows does. __Martin ___ freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-emulation To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-emulation-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.3.36 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD)
On 01/11/12 10:24, Martin Simmons wrote: On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:20:04 -0600, Chuck Burns said: On 01/10/12 10:49, David Naylor wrote: I wasn't aware of WoW64 (and how it will make my packages redundent :->). I see there are two wiki pages: + http://wiki.winehq.org/Wine64 + http://wiki.winehq.org/Wine64ForPackagers The latter makes this statement "Wine 64bit works at the moment only on Linux." which would indicate that, at this stage, FreeBSD is precluded. That, however, is just my speculation. To answer your question directly, I have put no thought or effort into wine64. There is still a need for the 32bit wine, as the wow64 build will ONLY run 64bit windows apps, so for the majority of applications and games, we'll still need the 32bit wine. Is that because wow64 is unstable in wine64? Wow64's reason for existence is to run 32-bit Windows binaries on 64-bit Windows/Wine and it works pretty well for most applications. __Martin ___ freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-emulation To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-emulation-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" wow64 doesnt -exist- in wine64 unless you compile the 32bit wine alongside it. You have to build it twice, to get two binaries "wine" and "wine64" and if you build them "properly" what happens when you attempt to execute a 64bit app with "wine" it's automatically relaunched with "wine64" But the reverse is NOT true. -- Chuck Burns The Southern Libertarian http://www.thesouthernlibertarian.com/ ___ freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-emulation To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-emulation-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.3.36 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD)
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:20:04 -0600, Chuck Burns said: > > On 01/10/12 10:49, David Naylor wrote: > > I wasn't aware of WoW64 (and how it will make my packages redundent :->). I > > see there are two wiki pages: > > + http://wiki.winehq.org/Wine64 > > + http://wiki.winehq.org/Wine64ForPackagers > > > > The latter makes this statement "Wine 64bit works at the moment only on > > Linux." which would indicate that, at this stage, FreeBSD is precluded. > > That, > > however, is just my speculation. > > > > To answer your question directly, I have put no thought or effort into > > wine64. > > There is still a need for the 32bit wine, as the wow64 build will ONLY > run 64bit windows apps, so for the majority of applications and games, > we'll still need the 32bit wine. Is that because wow64 is unstable in wine64? Wow64's reason for existence is to run 32-bit Windows binaries on 64-bit Windows/Wine and it works pretty well for most applications. __Martin ___ freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-emulation To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-emulation-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.3.36 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD)
On 01/10/12 10:49, David Naylor wrote: I wasn't aware of WoW64 (and how it will make my packages redundent :->). I see there are two wiki pages: + http://wiki.winehq.org/Wine64 + http://wiki.winehq.org/Wine64ForPackagers The latter makes this statement "Wine 64bit works at the moment only on Linux." which would indicate that, at this stage, FreeBSD is precluded. That, however, is just my speculation. To answer your question directly, I have put no thought or effort into wine64. There is still a need for the 32bit wine, as the wow64 build will ONLY run 64bit windows apps, so for the majority of applications and games, we'll still need the 32bit wine. -- Chuck Burns The Southern Libertarian http://www.thesouthernlibertarian.com/ ___ freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-emulation To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-emulation-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.3.36 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD)
On Monday, 9 January 2012 20:19:48 Chuck Burns wrote: > On 01/09/12 12:17, David Naylor wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.3.36 have been uploaded to mediafire [2]. > > > > There are many reports that wine does not work with a clang compiled > > world (help in fixing this problem is appreciated as it affects quite a > > few users). > > > > The patch [3] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run > > on installation (if the relevant files are accessable). Please read the > > installation messages for further information. > > > > Regards, > > > > David > > > > [1] > > > >MD5 (freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.3.36,1.tbz) = > >019cdde0ff7fad7dc877ed1e3bc3c481 MD5 > >(freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.3.36,1.txz) = > >7fe1bbd75c8c6af1d3fe6f0a03841fa2 > > > > [2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64 > > [3] The patch is located at /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh > > Have you put any thought into getting both wine and wine64 (for Wow64 > apps) working? There have been more than a few people hopping onto IRC > asking about wine64 (full 64bit wine) I wasn't aware of WoW64 (and how it will make my packages redundent :->). I see there are two wiki pages: + http://wiki.winehq.org/Wine64 + http://wiki.winehq.org/Wine64ForPackagers The latter makes this statement "Wine 64bit works at the moment only on Linux." which would indicate that, at this stage, FreeBSD is precluded. That, however, is just my speculation. To answer your question directly, I have put no thought or effort into wine64. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Wine-fbsd64 updated to 1.3.36 (32bit Wine for 64bit FreeBSD)
On 01/09/12 12:17, David Naylor wrote: Hi, Packages [1] for wine-fbsd64-1.3.36 have been uploaded to mediafire [2]. There are many reports that wine does not work with a clang compiled world (help in fixing this problem is appreciated as it affects quite a few users). The patch [3] for nVidia users is now included in the package and is run on installation (if the relevant files are accessable). Please read the installation messages for further information. Regards, David [1] MD5 (freebsd8/wine-fbsd64-1.3.36,1.tbz) = 019cdde0ff7fad7dc877ed1e3bc3c481 MD5 (freebsd9/wine-fbsd64-1.3.36,1.txz) = 7fe1bbd75c8c6af1d3fe6f0a03841fa2 [2] http://www.mediafire.com/wine_fbsd64 [3] The patch is located at /usr/local/share/wine/patch-nvidia.sh Have you put any thought into getting both wine and wine64 (for Wow64 apps) working? There have been more than a few people hopping onto IRC asking about wine64 (full 64bit wine) -- Chuck Burns The Southern Libertarian http://www.thesouthernlibertarian.com/ ___ freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-emulation To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-emulation-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
