Re: Need help recovering from major mistake

1999-05-23 Thread David E. Cross
 Using my FreeBSD CD-ROMs, I've been able to go into fixit mode and mount
 the root filesystem of the drive, but I'm not sure where to go from there.
 How can I figure out what my old disklabel was? Is there some way I can
 search the raw disk for the locations of the file systems?
 
 Any help will be GREATLY appreciated. Please email me directly with your
 responses as I'm not subscribed to the FreeBSD mailing lists.
I had NT kindly overwrite my disklable once, I got arround the problem by
scanning the disk for the magic numbers that signifies the start of a 
FreeBSD sub-partition.  You then have to do some math based on the raw block
numbers to figure out the start and lenght.  you are lucky in that FreeBSD
will tell you if you get the lenght wrong (you need to get the start correct);
it tells you the correct length.  After you have that information go into
'disklabel -e disk' and re-enter the values.

I no longer have the program, but the magic values to look for are easily
gotten by examining the the first  block or 2 from a subpartition.
'dd bs=512 if=/dev/rdsk count=2 | less' did the trick for me.

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[Q] disklabel magic number

1999-05-23 Thread Ruslan Ermilov
Hi!

Just out of curiosity, is there any hidden meaning of

#define DISKMAGIC   ((u_int32_t)0x82564557) /* The disk magic number */

Or is it just a random number?

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security: what does OpenBSD have, that FreeBSD doesn't have...

1999-05-23 Thread Andreas Klemm
Hi !

Am currently discussing FreeBSD vs. OpenBSD in private e-mail.

What make OpenBSD so secure ? Or can this kind of security be
reproduced with FreeBSD ports ? I think of tools like:

bjorb   - secure TCP relay software, 
  http://www.hitachi-ms.co.jp/bjorb/ 
bro - Bro is a system for detecting Network Intruders in
  real-time by the guys that brought you tcpdump, libpcap,
  and flex
cfs - This is CFS, Matt Blaze's Cryptographic File System.
  It provides transparent encryption and decryption of 
  selected directory trees. It is implemented as a 
  user-level NFS server and thus does not require any 
  kernel modifications. Under FreeBSD, the mount command 
  for the CFS tree must include -o port=3049,nfsv2.
fwtk- The TIS Firewall Toolkit is a set of programs and 
  configuration practices designed to facilitate the 
  building of network firewalls.
skip- IP-Level Cryptography, Secure every application with 
  one protocol. http://skip.incog.com
stunnel - The stunnel program is designed to work as SSL 
  encryption wrapper between remote client and
  local (inetd-startable) or remote server. 
  stunnel can be used to add SSL functionality 
  to  commonly used  inetd  daemons like  POP-2,  
  POP-3  and  IMAP servers without any changes in
  the programs' code.
tcp_wrapper - With this package you can monitor and filter
  incoming requests for the SYSTAT, FINGER, FTP,
  TELNET, RLOGIN, RSH, EXEC, TFTP, TALK, and other
  network services.
vscan   - McAfee's evaluation VirusScan for FreeBSD, provides
  immediate scanning of MS-DOS files hosted on FreeBSD
  Unix systems.

Could somebody please explain ?


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RE: security: what does OpenBSD have, that FreeBSD doesn't have.

1999-05-23 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
Hi Andreas =)

On 23-May-99 Andreas Klemm wrote:
 Am currently discussing FreeBSD vs. OpenBSD in private e-mail.
 
 What make OpenBSD so secure ? Or can this kind of security be
 reproduced with FreeBSD ports ? I think of tools like:

Ye missed one of the most important things: auditing of the sourcecode.

The OpenBSD team does a lot wrt auditing of the complete sourcetree, but
then the question is: is this valid concern or is this pure paranoia.
OpenBSD does a lot of valid changes but borders (and sometimes crosses thta
border) on paranoia, wrt code.

A lot of the security tools can be get from the ports, but the true
security of a system lies in the eye of the admin. I have known admins whom
I would never trust mission critical security systems to.

HTH,

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RE: IPv6 and -current?

1999-05-23 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
On 23-May-99 Alex Zepeda wrote:
 Out of a perhaps morbid curiosity, I'm somewhat interested in setting up
 an IPv6 stack on my computer.  From what I can tell there are two well
 supported stacks.  Kame and Inria, and both support 2.2.8, Kame also
 supports 3.x.  Has anyone tried to port either to -current?  I tried
 playing around with the Kame release for 3.0, and it generated quite a
 few rejects...

I am currently merging KAME with CURRENT and it's a lovely adventure to
embark on...

One can best port 3.x to CURRENT since the internal changes from 2.2.x to
3.x are great and would merely duplicate work...

If yer interested Alex, we could work together on this and prepare a
CURRENT-KAME solution since I believe the time has come to start work in
CURRENT on IPv6. 

I already mailed Itojun-san about the status of the KAME/Inria merger and
hope to hear from him soon.

HTH,

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RE: security: what does OpenBSD have, that FreeBSD doesn't have.

1999-05-23 Thread sthaug
 The OpenBSD team does a lot wrt auditing of the complete sourcetree, but
 then the question is: is this valid concern or is this pure paranoia.
 OpenBSD does a lot of valid changes but borders (and sometimes crosses thta
 border) on paranoia, wrt code.

Given the number of postings to BUGTRAQ about array overflows and stack
smashing, I think it's relevant to ask whether it possible to be *too*
paranoid here. Personally, I think what the OpenBSD folks are doing is
very important.

 A lot of the security tools can be get from the ports, but the true
 security of a system lies in the eye of the admin. I have known admins whom
 I would never trust mission critical security systems to.

The true security of a system depends on the operating system itself, the
applications, *and* the admin. You can be a very good and security conscious
admin - but it won't help you much if the operating system is Windows 98.

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sth...@nethelp.no


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RE: security: what does OpenBSD have, that FreeBSD doesn't have.

1999-05-23 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
On 23-May-99 sth...@nethelp.no wrote:
 The OpenBSD team does a lot wrt auditing of the complete sourcetree, but
 then the question is: is this valid concern or is this pure paranoia.
 OpenBSD does a lot of valid changes but borders (and sometimes crosses
 that border) on paranoia, wrt code.
 
 Given the number of postings to BUGTRAQ about array overflows and stack
 smashing, I think it's relevant to ask whether it possible to be *too*
 paranoid here. Personally, I think what the OpenBSD folks are doing is
 very important.

Paranoia/security and freedom of use are opposites on the balance of use.
If you make so much security restrictions to a system it's bound to make it
less enjoyable where it concerns freedom.

 A lot of the security tools can be get from the ports, but the true
 security of a system lies in the eye of the admin. I have known admins
 whom I would never trust mission critical security systems to.
 
 The true security of a system depends on the operating system itself,
 the applications, *and* the admin. You can be a very good and security
 conscious admin - but it won't help you much if the operating system is
 Windows 98.

Correct there Steinaur, I left those other two out. But then the admin most
certainly knows that he has to replace that Win98 box with FreeBSD ;)

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RE: FreeBSD/USENIX Ocean Cruise

1999-05-23 Thread Keith Anderson
Hi All

Has this idea sunk ?

Keith


On 15-May-99 Randall Hopper wrote:
 http://www.geekcruises.com/
 
 What a cool idea.  
 
 Maybe we'll see a FreeBSD/USENIX conference on-deck someday.
 
 Randall
 
 
 
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**  The thing I like most about Windows 98 is...
**  You can download FreeBSD with it!

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Re: Suggestion...

1999-05-23 Thread Brian Somers
  I plan on doing some work on it and the dgm driver.  They're almost 
  the same and should be merged.  They both violate style(9) in almost 
  every way too :-[
  
  I know of only one person with an Xem card (dgm driver), but he's 
  promised to send me the specs by snail mail.  Once I get them, I'll 
  start the work.
  
  Let's leave the `alpha' there for a little longer :-)
  
  What are you planning on doing with it?  Other than DDB support I can't
  imagine what could be *added* to the driver; it is one of those just
  works things right now.
 
 Why not merge the two into a *new* driver?  Once it's running at an 
 acceptable level, drop support for the two old drivers.  That way if
 something breaks, the current users still have the one that works.

Yes, this makes most sense.

 Vince.
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UFS parameter survey: HELP WANTED!

1999-05-23 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
---BeginMessage---

I recently made a 15GB filesystem and ended up with almost 500
cylinder groups.  That is unlikely to be optimal.  I talked to Kirk
about the right parameters for UFS on modern disks some years back,
and he said that no more than maybe a hundred cylinder groups made
any sense.

I think the fact that disks have gotten 25 times larger since the
newfs paramters were last tweaked means that it is time to do so
again.  Unfortunately determining the parameters are not simple,
so I would like to solicit help from as many as possible in
determining if we should retune the newfs defaults.

What I'm looking for is hard and soft data on the difference it
makes for various sets of parameters, for various workloads and
programs.  So if you have time and facilities, lend me a hand.

Basically, we can only sensibly compare data from the same hardware
with the same workload, otherwise there are too many things to
compare.  Not all things can be measured precisely, but try to
provide as much data as you can, and as good data as you can,
ie: don't change controllers move partitions change BIOS settings
without noting that you did so.

The newfs parameters I would like to map out are:

-a -b -c -e -f -i -m -t -u

I'm generally interested in all impacts of this, but in particular
if you can measure one or more of these specific parameters:

read performance
write performance
create performance
fsck time
space wastage
other

I have no particular wishes for what program/application is used
to excercise the system, but I would always prefer real-world over
synthetic benchmarks.  If somebody could measure news-server and
web-server performance for instance it would be great.

If anybody feels like making a structured benchmark script which
just takes a device name as arg and runs some standardized tests
that would be great too!

Please report all results to fs-d...@phk.freebsd.dk using this
form.  Put the information instead of the ___, but leave the line
number intact please.  You don't need to return the lines starting
with #

I will post news and updates about this project on:

http://phk.freebsd.dk/ufs

If there is sufficient interest we will make a mailing list too.

Thank you for your participation!

Poul-Henning

*BEGIN UFSTUNE FORM*

# Your email address.  This will be used only to catalogue and
# request further details from you.  It will not be published
# or distributed.
# Example:
#   1 p...@freebsd.org
1 ___

# Identity of the system you used.  This is just to keep all measurements
# straight.  It is used with your email as a unique index.  This
# should identify one particular combination of hardware, excluding
# the disk you had the filesystems on.  If you have the disk on
# different controllers in the same system, that will count as two
# systems.  Use names/numbers/whatever helps you keep track of things.
# Please use the same thing for all measurements made on the same
# system.
# Example:
#   2 rover using NCR controller
2 ___

# Identity of the disk/device you had the filesystem on, please
# cutpaste the ... piece from /var/run/dmesg.boot:
# Example:
#   3 Quantum XP34300W 81HB
3 ___

# Describe the nature of the test in one-line form.
# Example:
#   4 Time to fsck filesystem with all four 3.2 CD's loaded
4 ___

# Describe the nature and conditions of the test in 
# sufficient detail that somebody else can repeat it.
# Example:
#   5 Filesystem is newfs'ed and mounted.  The four CDs from the FreeBSD
#   5 3.2 release were copied in using find . -print | cpio -dump XXX
#   5 where XXX is mountpoint/cd[1234].  Filesystem unmounted and run
#   5 /usr/bin/time -l fsck /dev/rsd0c
5 ___

# You must repeat the rest of the form for each experiment.

# document the newfs commandline used.  Include a -s option here.
# Example:
#   6 newfs -f 2048 -s 3072
6 ___

# document any mount options, kernel features or softupdates.
# Example:
#   7 softupdates
7 ___

# note any other detailes pertaining to this experiment (multiline)
# Example:
#   8 BIOS set to 5 MHz/narrow
8 ___

# document the result of the experiment, for instance the output from
# time(1) or similar (multiline)
# Example:
#   9 2.91 real 0.03 user 0.05 sys
9 ___

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RE: security: what does OpenBSD have, that FreeBSD doesn't have.

1999-05-23 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, 23 May 1999 sth...@nethelp.no wrote:

  The OpenBSD team does a lot wrt auditing of the complete sourcetree, but
  then the question is: is this valid concern or is this pure paranoia.
  OpenBSD does a lot of valid changes but borders (and sometimes crosses thta
  border) on paranoia, wrt code.
 
 Given the number of postings to BUGTRAQ about array overflows and stack
 smashing, I think it's relevant to ask whether it possible to be *too*
 paranoid here. Personally, I think what the OpenBSD folks are doing is
 very important.

One of my plans is to merge all of these changes into our tree (along with all
the other minor changes/manpage corrections, etc).

Longer term, I'd like to work on porting some of their kernel code like
randomized sin_port selection and TCP initial sequence numbering, probably
hidden behind sysctl knobs (defaulting to off to keep people happy).

Kris

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[johnathan.f.mee...@bankerstrust.com: FreeBSD Configuration]

1999-05-23 Thread Wolfram Schneider
- Forwarded message from johnathan.f.mee...@bankerstrust.com -
From: johnathan.f.mee...@bankerstrust.com
To: w...@freebsd.org
Message-Id: 8525677a.003d42ac...@nysmtp4000.svc.btco.com
Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 12:08:50 +0100
Subject: FreeBSD Configuration


Hi,

I currently run FreeBSD 3.1 at home, and recently recommended it to a few
friends at work as my preference for a non-commercial flavour of UNIX. This
opened up an avenue for development that I would like to volunteer to make
happen - configuration tools. Being Windows people, they found FreeBSD
intimidating - configuring a sound card, adding a new device, or setting up
userPPP were things they were used to having done for them. These people
now run Linux, as they fell into the UNIX is too difficult for me trap,
and liked the comfort of easy configuration. Your documentation is great,
but some people need to be started more slowly. Even after following your
documentation, a user may not think of creating a symlink /dev/modem to
their device node (which is needed, for example, by Minicom).

I like the idea of easy configuration as an /option/ to those who would
like it - particularly newcomers to UNIX. With this in mind, I searched my
install set for such utilities but couldn't find them, nor see them on the
wanted projects list. Would you be interested in such tools being developed
for FreeBSD, and could I organise such a development team? I don't want to
duplicate somebody else's work, so please point me in the right direction
if such work has been undertaken.

Your comments on this subject wold be appreciated, but please reply to 
jmee...@easynet.co.uk , as the return address for this mail is my
workplace.

Regards,

Johnathan Meehan
jmee...@easynet.co.uk
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Re: Logging promiscuous mode disabled

1999-05-23 Thread Sheldon Hearn


On Sat, 22 May 1999 17:24:32 +0200, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:

 Would make intrusion detection easier, etc etc =)

Hi Jeroen,

I don't know about that. I'd hate for anyone to think that this
improves security.

I see it as a convenience option, and wanted feedback on any negative
side-effects that folks more familiar with the code might spot.

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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Re: security: what does OpenBSD have, that FreeBSD doesn't have.

1999-05-23 Thread Dan Moschuk

| One of my plans is to merge all of these changes into our tree (along with all
| the other minor changes/manpage corrections, etc).
| 
| Longer term, I'd like to work on porting some of their kernel code like
| randomized sin_port selection and TCP initial sequence numbering, probably
| hidden behind sysctl knobs (defaulting to off to keep people happy).

I think that would be a great idea.  I'd be willing spare a few hours on a 
weekend to help out with this.

-Dan


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Re: [ALERT] a.out support is broken in 3.2-STABLE and 4.0-CURRENT

1999-05-23 Thread Adrian Filipi-Martin
On Sat, 22 May 1999, David O'Brien wrote:

  And would it be possible to MFC this stuff
 
 After it is tested in -CURRENT first.
 
  and add an 3.2-ERRATA entry...
 
 Why?  The compat22 distribution on the FTP site has ld.so in it, as wil
 the CDROM.  Did you install 3.2 on the very first day?

Just about.  Did a make release for local internal use.  Is there a
slightly newer CVS tag other than RELENG_3_2_0_RELEASE that gets us all we
need to build completely functional COMPATxx's?  

I only care becuase of the few binaries I have that are not open
source, binary only and not  ELF.

thanks,

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converting Multia riser card into a generic NCR810

1999-05-23 Thread Wilko Bulte
People interested in converting a riser card of a DEC Multia into a generic
NCR810 card please refer to:

http://www.tcja.nl/~wilko/ncr_hack.html

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Re: security: what does OpenBSD have, that FreeBSD doesn't have.

1999-05-23 Thread Warner Losh
In message 
pine.osf.4.10.9905232037320.11148-100...@mercury.physics.adelaide.edu.au Kris 
Kennaway writes:
: One of my plans is to merge all of these changes into our tree
: (along with all the other minor changes/manpage corrections, etc).

Which ones are currently missing?

Also, beware.  Most of the patches will not come into the FreeBSD tree 
w/o some tweaking to pass the bruce filter.

Warner


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Re: [ALERT] a.out support is broken in 3.2-STABLE and 4.0-CURRENT

1999-05-23 Thread David O'Brien
  Why?  The compat22 distribution on the FTP site has ld.so in it, as wil
  the CDROM.  Did you install 3.2 on the very first day?
 
   Just about.  Did a make release for local internal use.  Is there a
 slightly newer CVS tag other than RELENG_3_2_0_RELEASE that gets us all we
 need to build completely functional COMPATxx's?  

I'm not sure if the RELENG_3_2_0_RELEASE was slid forward for my fix.

Since doing so would allow someone to build what was on the 3.2-RELEASE
CDROM, maybe we should ask Jordan if the tag shouldn't be slid forward
for src/lib/compat/compat22/Makefile.

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[Q] LKM linking

1999-05-23 Thread Constantine Shkolnyy
Hi All,

1. Is this possible to produce an LKM device driver that would export
functions to another LKM driver?

2. If the 1. is possible, will it be possible to load the another LKM
driver without loading the exporting driver?

Which references would you suggest me to look into? Maybe some known
combination of existing drivers?

Thank you,
Stan



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Re: freebsd-hackers-digest V4 #466

1999-05-23 Thread B1oL0g1c
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getopt.c in gnu/*/*

1999-05-23 Thread Warner Losh

Is there any reason to have getopt.c replicated in so many different
programs:
cvs, grep, gzip, patch, ptx, sort, tar
and maybe a few others that I missed...

Warner


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Re: security: what does OpenBSD have, that FreeBSD doesn't have.

1999-05-23 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sun, 23 May 1999, Warner Losh wrote:

 In message 
 pine.osf.4.10.9905232037320.11148-100...@mercury.physics.adelaide.edu.au 
 Kris Kennaway writes:
 : One of my plans is to merge all of these changes into our tree
 : (along with all the other minor changes/manpage corrections, etc).
 
 Which ones are currently missing?

I'm not sure..I've been wandering through the openbsd source tree and merging
useful diffs from binaries, but I haven't been too organised about it so far,
and haven't encountered much in the way of important fixes. I'm sure there
are some, though.

 Also, beware.  Most of the patches will not come into the FreeBSD tree 
 w/o some tweaking to pass the bruce filter.

I'm expecting that, but I'm willing to clean up what I bring across.

Kris

 
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RE: IPv6 and -current?

1999-05-23 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Sun, 23 May 1999, Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai wrote:

 I already mailed Itojun-san about the status of the KAME/Inria merger and
 hope to hear from him soon.

Well, I finally got the userland shit working!

This would make an awesome port, it compiles out of the box, and works
with bpf to do ipv6 in ipv4 tunneling :)

- alex



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Re: [johnathan.f.mee...@bankerstrust.com: FreeBSD Configuration]

1999-05-23 Thread Studded
Wolfram Schneider wrote:
 
 I like the idea of easy configuration as an /option/ to those who would
 like it - particularly newcomers to UNIX. With this in mind, I searched my
 install set for such utilities but couldn't find them, nor see them on the
 wanted projects list. 

Your best bet would be to take a look at http://www.webmin.com/. What
you're talking about would best be included as a module for their
framework. For what it's worth, I think it's an excellent idea.

Doug
-- 
***   Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network  ***

Nominated for quote of the year is the statement made by Representative
Dick Armey (Texas), who when asked if he were in the President's place,
would he resign, responded:

If I were in the President's place I would not get a chance to resign.
I would be lying in a pool of my own blood hearing Mrs. Armey standing
over me saying, 'How do I reload this damn thing?'


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