none of wpa_passphrase

2007-08-09 Thread Eitarou Kamo
I have posted this mail to mobile list. Just to make sure, I'll forward
to this list too.

Eitarou

Eitarou Kamo wrote:

>Hi,
> I used wpa _supplicant  and was aware none of  wpa _passphrase.
>My machine is  6.2  REREASE. Does anyone have it or way to making it?
>
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Re: Star & FreeBSD

2005-02-12 Thread Eitarou Kamo

David Schultz wrote:

As the conclusion, which state are available?
Pre Post
--
BSD license  >  CDDL
GPL license  >  CDDL
MIT license  >  CDDL
CDDL  >  BSD license
CDDL  >  GPL license
CDDL  >  MIT license
   

The Copyright holder can release his code under whatever licenses
as he sees fit.  If you're not the Copyright holder, then the
story is different.  It is my understanding that it is possible to
add additional restrictions to BSD/MIT-licensed software (without
removing the original restrictions and disclaimer, of course).
However, the GPL forbids additional restrictions on both source
and binary distributions, and the CDDL forbids additional
restrictions on source distributions:
You may not offer or impose any terms on any Covered
Software in Source Code form that alters or restricts the
applicable version of this License or the recipients
rights hereunder.  --CDDL 1.0, sec 3.4
It's too bad that Sun's lawyers think they need to force people to
contribute changes back to them.
 

CDDL doesn't cause  Hybrid GPL like issue  copyright  and  copyleft  issue,
I wonder?  Anyway I'll try not to mention so much not to make a god 
furious. 

Once again, the post herein and hereto is subject to hereinafter.
Once again: I am not a lawyer and make no guarantee about the
accuracy of the contents of this message.  The opinions herein do
not reflect those of the FreeBSD Project.  Use this information at
your own peril.  Beware of dog.  Slippery when wet.
 

#BTW, my FreeBSD-5.3 work comfortably on this machine so far.
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Re: Star & FreeBSD

2005-02-11 Thread Eitarou Kamo


Actually, I think the answer is YES.  You're apparently answering
a different question.  See below.
It is my understanding that virtually any open-source license is
*compatible* with the MIT and 2-clause BSD licenses, since all the
MIT/2-clause BSD licenses require is that you acknowledge and
preserve the license, copyright, and disclaimer.
However, I believe it is generally not possible to use CDDL code
for integral parts of FreeBSD because, like the LGPL, the CDDL
requires that modifications be made available under the CDDL.
It is probably fine for kernel modules and extensions, but that's
something core@ needs to decide.
 

As the conclusion, which state are available?
Pre Post
--
BSD license  >  CDDL
GPL license  >  CDDL
MIT license  >  CDDL
CDDL  >  BSD license
CDDL  >  GPL license
CDDL  >  MIT license
To say nothing of it, the post herein and hereto is subject to hereinafter.
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer and make no guarantee about the
accuracy of the contents of this message.  The opinions herein do
not reflect those of the FreeBSD Project.  Use this information at
your own peril.  Beware of dog.  Slippery when wet.
 

What a cool clause above is!  It's just simple though. If possible, I'd 
like to
use it in my this sort of post. It is entered into which type of 
License, I wonder.

Eitarou
 

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Re: send-pr

2004-08-22 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi,
Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
This means that it can take a while for someone to pick your report and
work on it; even then they might find the problem too difficult and just
leave it open for someone more knowledgeable.
Having said all this, what was your report about?  Perhaps I can find it in
the database and point the right person or group of persons to it.
- Giorgos
 

This is the one I sent.
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=70028

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2004-08-22 Thread Eitarou Kamo
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(B
(BI have sent the send-pr message. No one seems to work
(Baround to it.
(BDoesn't anyone necessarily do it even if it were sent
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Re: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org

2004-07-28 Thread Eitarou Kamo

(B
(BPeter Pentchev wrote:
(B
(B>
(B>GNATS is FreeBSD's problem report (PR) system.  freebsd-gnats-submit is
(B>the address that PR's and followups to PR's should be sent to.  Either
(B>you have filed a PR, or somebody has sent a follow-up message to one of
(B>your PR's.  Alternatively, it could just be some spammer forging e-mail
(B>addresses and choosing them at random.
(B>
(B>G'luck,
(B>Peter
(B>
(B>  
(B>
(BIt's the work of spamer , I guess.
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2004-07-28 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi guys,
(B
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Re: umass0: CBI reset failed, Timeout.... 4.10-R

2004-07-24 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi commiter and all,
(B
(BEitarou Kamo wrote:
(B
(B>Hi,
(B>
(B>I have some questions about umass and USB.
(B>
(B>I installed 4.10-R to Sony vaio laptop. and rebooted
(B>without any memory stick.
(B>In boot process, my machine said that
(B>
(B>umass0: CBI reset failed, TIMEOUT
(B>umass0: CBI bulk-in stall clear failed, TIMEOUT
(B>umass0: CBI bulk-out stall clear failed, TIMEOUT
(B>
(B>5 times( about 20 min). and didn't prompt "login:".
(B>
(B>and I look into source code by my debug print.
(B>
(B>It seems that reflexive loop occurs between uhci_callout( , ,
(B>uhci_poll_hub,)
(B>and uhci_poll_hub(). Now uhci_callout is called from uhci_power(). and
(B>uhci_poll_hub() have a path
(B>
(B>if (p[0] == 0)
(B>/* No change, try again in a while */
(B>return;
(B>
(B>If return here, loop occurs. Because uhci_poll_hub()
(B>includes uhci_callout( , , uhci_poll_hub,).
(B>
(B>Does anyone know? any idea?
(B>
(B>Any suggestion will be appreciated.
(B>
(B>  
(B>
(BI posted this message and I now remembered suddenly.
(BThen, I'm writing this message.
(B
(B|if (p[0] == 0)
(B|/* No change, try again in a while */
(B|return;
(B
(BWhat does this path mean?
(BThis path meant umass dev was none, I thought.
(BSo reflexible loop occurs until umass device is recognized.
(B
(BIf so, I'd like a option to bypass this path when something
(Bis set as the kernel param or anything else. which makes
(Bthe smooth boot process without umass devs.
(B
(BAny idea or suggestion?
(B
(BEitarou
(B
(BP.S.
(BSorry not to trim below.
(B
(B
(B>++ unci_poll_hub()+++
(B>void
(B>uhci_poll_hub(void *addr)
(B>{
(B>usbd_xfer_handle xfer = addr;
(B>usbd_pipe_handle pipe = xfer->pipe;
(B>uhci_softc_t *sc = (uhci_softc_t *)pipe->device->bus;
(B>int s;
(B>u_char *p;
(B>
(B>DPRINTFN(20, ("uhci_poll_hub\n"));
(B>
(B>usb_callout(sc->sc_poll_handle, sc->sc_ival, uhci_poll_hub, xfer);
(B>
(B>p = KERNADDR(&xfer->dmabuf, 0);
(B>p[0] = 0;
(B>if (UREAD2(sc, UHCI_PORTSC1) & (UHCI_PORTSC_CSC|UHCI_PORTSC_OCIC))
(B>p[0] |= 1<<1;
(B>if (UREAD2(sc, UHCI_PORTSC2) & (UHCI_PORTSC_CSC|UHCI_PORTSC_OCIC))
(B>p[0] |= 1<<2;
(B>if (p[0] == 0)
(B>/* No change, try again in a while */
(B>return;
(B>
(B>xfer->actlen = 1;
(B>xfer->status = USBD_NORMAL_COMPLETION;
(B>s = splusb();
(B>xfer->device->bus->intr_context++;
(B>usb_transfer_complete(xfer);
(B>xfer->device->bus->intr_context--;
(B>splx(s);
(B>}
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Re: disk recovery help

2004-07-22 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi Charles,
I sent this message. But SpamCop.net had listed
my ISP address. I received undelivered message.
So I will send again.
Eitarou
Eitarou Kamo wrote:
Hi,
How about this?
1. You mount dd.img as vn0 like this in your free space.
#vnconfig vn0 dd.img
# mount /dev/vn0c /mnt
2. archive or dump whole data of the /mnt.
3. restore archived data to /dev/ad3s1h after create file system.
FSCK failed because you set the bs=1024 in the dd command,
I guess.
Charles Sprickman wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2004, Eitarou Kamo wrote:




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Re: Grub capabilities (Re: Multiple Bootable FreeBSD partitions?)

2004-07-19 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi,
Thierry Herbelot wrote:
Le Monday 19 July 2004 22:43, Eitarou Kamo a écrit :
 

Me too. WinXP, RedHat, FreeBSD-4.10 and Solaris8 live
in my laptop. And RedHat has 2 kernels bootable. So I have
5 OSes bootable. If 2 linux live in dos basic partition each other
and each linux create extend partition, is it possible to create
10 bootable partition with grub?
   

one very good point of grub is that it allows booting from a "logical" 
partition inside an "extended" partition : the number of bootable OSes is 
therefore un-limited, as log as they can live in an extended partition (that 
is, none of the BSD's for now ; you may also have for example up to 3x6=18 
versions of FreeBSD alongside your numerous versions of Linux or Zin$$)

TfH
 

If space of HDD allows and linux can create next extended
partition by installing one after another on extended
partition, Grub may have bootable partition infinitely like
reflexive loop. If so, You may be able to have all OSes
being in this world even on a laptop. I don't know if it is worth
or not though. But it's amasing.
Eitarou
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Re: Multiple Bootable FreeBSD partitions?

2004-07-19 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi,
Michael W. Lucas wrote:
Not to blow my own horn, but:
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2002/05/09/Big_Scary_Daemons.html
 

If you have a time and you would like to run current, release, stable 
and extra
a few OS,  Install *Linux and use extended partition(slice for BSD guys)
and Grub, and you can run at most 8 OS on your single HDD. Grub would
boot from Linux extended partition( not dos extended partition).

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Re: Article on Sun's DTrace

2004-07-13 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi Andrey,
(B
(BAndrey Simonenko wrote:
(B
(B>
(B> Having read that bug report I began to think that they change several
(B> continues bytes in a function, probably they just search for well known
(B> commands sequence and atomically change one of them. I think it is
(B> possible
(B> to change almost any instruction on x86, just because changed instruction
(B> should be emulated after return from DTrace probe (this very actual for
(B> probes in userspace). Yes, you are right, using classic debugging
(B> technique for activating DTrace trampoline should work.
(B>
(B> One can find description of probe's activating for x86 in the 4.1
(B> paragraph of the DTrace Usenix report. They talked about IDT and
(B> interrupt handler.
(B>
(B> I know that you know this, but...
(B>
(B> If an interrupt call for activating probe is used on x86, then this
(B> explains how it is possible to get offset of "ret" command (cs:eip from
(B> trap frame) and how probes work in the userspace (control goes to kernel,
(B> where it works with script's variables).
(B>
(B> Again, if every "ret" instructions or instructions before "ret"
(B> instructions
(B> are changed in a function (because an offset of "ret" instruction is
(B> available in :return probe), then to speed up instruction changing, it
(B> is possible to save offsets of probes entries in some well known sections
(B> of object files (during compilation phase for example) and if there isn't
(B> such section, then try to find probes entries on-the-fly by disassembling
(B> binary code. Wildcard probes can require changing at least two
(B> instructions
(B> in every of tens of thousands functions.
(B> ___
(B>
(B>
(BYou seem to know well about DTrace. I was taught a lot by you
(Bon the off line too. By the way, Are you plan to port DTrace like
(Btool to FreeBSD? or are you Sun or DTrace developer? Sorry,
(BI'm not sure who and what you are, and I'm not old-timer on this list.
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Re: Article on Sun's DTrace

2004-07-08 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi,
Avleen Vig wrote:
They said "6 staff-years". This means if they have 6 people working on
it full time, it took 1 year to complete. If they had 60 people full
time, it took just over 5 weeks (technically, i doubt that would work
practically).
From speaking to a friend at sun, I do know it took a long time and a
lot of effort, and was *not* a simple thing to implement.
 

They may say so to add value-added. But I have never run it.
So I don't know what it is. They ought to finish Solaris10 itself before
DTrace...
Say hello to Sun guys.
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Re: Article on Sun's DTrace

2004-07-08 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi Julian,
Julian Elischer wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004, Steven Smith wrote:
 

It's also possible to put probes on the return instruction of the
function.  I'm not sure how they're actually finding that, though.
   

I think the return probe is done by adding a call probe that changes the 
return address.

 

The pointer to function seems to be the key word. "return_p" is
the pointer to function. In case of normal mode return _p points the
dummy address or Null pointer. In case of DTrace mode return_p
points the address of probe. This may be magic of the DTrace.
What all the DTrace do are to know the address of probe. If DTrace
get the pointer of probes "return_p"s via structure or else, lang D
would get the return value of the probe from memory.
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Re: Article on Sun's DTrace

2004-07-07 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi Dan N,
Dan Nelson wrote:
In the last episode (Jul 07), David Schultz said:
 

Pawel Jakub Dawidek has already written a C-like language for his
Cerber project that looks like it could be used for a FreeBSD DTrace. 
It doesn't support associative arrays for stat collecting like D does,
but it's got just about everything else.  If you just wanted to track
syscalls, you could almost use Cerber as-is.

http://cerber.sourceforge.net/
 

Indeed, he have already made a action.
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Re: Article on Sun's DTrace

2004-07-07 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi David,
David Schultz wrote:
On Wed, Jul 07, 2004, Eitarou Kamo wrote:
 

FreeBSD has good features such as jail, chroot e.t.c. which can controll
   

Solaris 10 has these features, too, but I'm not sure what that has
to do with DTrace.
 

If You use the feature with DTrace like tool, You can operate
it in parallel. This is just a idea. I know Sol10 has chroot or zfs
which behave like jail. What I'd like to say is that you need not
insist on just DTrace you can develop original one.

 

The page referenced earlier in this thread pointed out that 6
staff-years went into DTrace.  That's accurate, and we're not
talking about part-time employees or people who don't know what
they're doing.  The D compiler aside, this is not a small matter
of programming that can just be ported to a new OS or machine
architecture in a few months.
 

I think so. If you develop the DTrace like tool, you need the resources 
at least
equivalent with DTrace team, I guess. If you do, your develop team will make
any action to get a resources.

That said, there is prior work in this area, such as:
http://oss.software.ibm.com/developer/opensource/linux/projects/dprobes/
But these other efforts don't come close to DTrace.
 

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Re: Article on Sun's DTrace

2004-07-07 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi Nicolas,
(B
(BNicolas Be'rard Nault wrote:
(B
(B>>> Dtrace is (seems, at least) to be a very powerful tool. Eventual coders
(B>>> could/should get their inspiration out of the work of Sun engineers.
(B>>> But
(B>>> remember, the volunteers of the FreeBSD project aren't paid to do what
(B>>> they do. 2 years and 3 full-time engineers were needed to accomplish
(B>>> Dtrace so I think seeing a similar utility in the near future for
(B>>> FreeBSD
(B>>> is very hopeless.
(B>>>
(B>>>
(B>> So what?
(B>>
(B>
(B> Don't you think this is a candidate for funding from the FreeBSD
(B> foundation ?
(B>
(B>
(B>
(BDo you think it is worth for that?
(B
(BBTW, don't you know my previous post which was not received to this list
(Bbut you quoted.
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Re: Article on Sun's DTrace

2004-07-06 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi Nicpolas,
Nicolas Bérard Nault wrote:
I think the control of ressources in a jail is very limited right now. I
don't know if some work in that direction is in progress but it would be a
great project for the future.
 

If you attend the prj, You can tweak as you like, I think.

Dtrace is (seems, at least) to be a very powerful tool. Eventual coders
could/should get their inspiration out of the work of Sun engineers. But
remember, the volunteers of the FreeBSD project aren't paid to do what
they do. 2 years and 3 full-time engineers were needed to accomplish
Dtrace so I think seeing a similar utility in the near future for FreeBSD
is very hopeless.
 

So what?
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Re: Article on Sun's DTrace

2004-07-06 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi Dan,
Daniel Ellard wrote:
In a nutshell, here is what DTrace is about:
- It has no impact on the system when it is not used.  So you can
leave it in all the time, instead of having a debug kernel and
a production kernel.
	[I don't know how they achieve the "no impact" but they claim
	that they really mean "no", not just "negligible".]
 



Thanks good comment. This is the one everyone, of course me too,
wants to know. I wanted to get brief instruction.

So, you could think of it as "a million debugging printf's magically
inserted into the kernel for you" along with a tool to analyze the
output, but it's really much more sophisticated than that.
It looks very nice.  I wish I'd had it during my forays into the
FreeBSD kernel.  Is it hopelessly solaris-specific?  Well, I was at
the presentation that Bryan Cantrill gave at USENIX, where he was
asked about the possibility of porting DTrace to linux.  His response
was something like "well, we're really trying to encourage people to
use the *best* possible operating system, so no." (Of course, one
might argue that this means that a FreeBSD port is imminent, but I
don't think that's what he meant.)
-Dan
 

FreeBSD has good features such as jail, chroot e.t.c. which can controll
process or resources in parallel. So you need not port DTrace entirely.
You can implement DTrace like one from scratch. Using legacy system
sometimes makes new system feature. I would rather expect new one than
porting. DTrace is one of example, I think. You may be able to fork new 
debug
process in parallel in the future. If I dare name it, It's "B(SD)Trace"? 
But it's up to
your effort. DTrace is a pioneer work. And for the people like me who 
bothers
to put the debug lines in kernel this must be powerful tool.

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Re: Article on Sun's DTrace

2004-07-05 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi,
Eitarou Kamo wrote:

No, already the first article tells you that they use a VM with 
byte-code
for the C-like language "D". And it's not compiled into the kernel but
hooked in and removed on-the-fly.


I don't know langage "D" well. But my guess is that they trim the info
valuable from the debug print outputs. Sorry I haven't read the
articles compleately yet.
Eitarou
Again DTrace seems to observe the resources via system analyze tool
and command. But language "D" seems to be great enough to call C/C++
function or even assembler.
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Re: Article on Sun's DTrace

2004-07-05 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi Volker and all,
Volker Stolz wrote:
In local.freebsd-hackers, you wrote:
 

I haven't seen above well yet. But A article says that DTrace sounds
like 30,000 lines of debug print. 
   

No, already the first article tells you that they use a VM with byte-code
for the C-like language "D". And it's not compiled into the kernel but
hooked in and removed on-the-fly.
Volker
 

I don't know langage "D" well. But my guess is that they trim the info
valuable from the debug print outputs. Sorry I haven't read the
articles compleately yet.
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Re: Article on Sun's DTrace

2004-07-05 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi,
David Schultz wrote:
On Wed, Jun 30, 2004, Bruce M Simpson wrote:
 

This recently caught my eye:
http://www.samag.com/documents/s=9171/sam0406h/0406h.htm
There are a number of good sounding suggestions in there.
   

DTrace is pure magic.  It would be well worth your time to install
Solaris 10 just to try out DTrace for a day.  Keep in mind,
however, that it took them several man-years to develop just for
sparc64 and x86, so we're not talking about a port of it any time
soon...
 

See also,
http://www.sun.com/bigadmin/content/dtrace/
I haven't seen above well yet. But A article says that DTrace sounds
like 30,000 lines of debug print. I have written about 50 lines
of debug print in my 4.10-R kernel to chase my umass issue.
If the output of it exists on a trace log file, It may be one of
DTrace feature. I saw the some sort of debug print lines in the
kernel source of 4.10-R. If you enable them and gather the information
to a file, it may be nearly equal DTrace. But I can't warrant or guarantee
you the performance. DTrace may be a kinda elegant debug mode
kernel, I guess.
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Re: Article on Sun's DTrace

2004-07-05 Thread Eitarou Kamo
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(B>
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(B>> http://www.samag.com/documents/s=9171/sam0406h/0406h.htm
(B>>
(B>> There are a number of good sounding suggestions in there.
(B>>
(B>
(B> DTrace is pure magic. It would be well worth your time to install
(B> Solaris 10 just to try out DTrace for a day. Keep in mind,
(B> however, that it took them several man-years to develop just for
(B> sparc64 and x86, so we're not talking about a port of it any time
(B> soon...
(B>
(B>
(BIs DTrace open source? I know presence of DTrace. But
(BSun's products usually aren't open source especially OS
(Bitself. Recently JS(Sun's COO and president) announced
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Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-07-03 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi,
Bruce Cran wrote:

No, Apple _does_ invest the money and time to create an x86 port: 
http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/
That is only the kernel and command-line utilities, there's no GUI 
included. http://www.kernelthread.com/mac/osx/arch_xnu.html provides a 
good overview of the kernel. Apple did have a port of MacOS X to x86 
(http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/09/02/apples_x86_os_named_sized/), 
I would guess they were waiting to see which CPU they were going to 
use after the G3, since Motorola were being a little slow in making 
faster PowerPC CPUs. They were considering switching to an Intel-based 
line; in the end they went with IBM and their PPC970, so I would think 
it's fairly unlikely we'll now ever see a version (of the GUI) for x86.

--
Bruce Cran
As for GUI, no problem. Apple will be able to add X.org one
or other one with their DeskTop on the kernel ASAP, I guess.
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Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-07-03 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi,
Sean Winn wrote:
Eitarou Kamo wrote:
Apple will not invest it, I wonder.

Darwin has been available for x86 since at least version 1.3.1 
(possibly earlier, but that's the ISO on opendarwin.org)

Sorry, I'm somewhat stranger about Darwin.
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Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-07-03 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi John and all,
John Von Essen wrote:
Since OPENSTEP kernel had an x86 port, its not to far off to conclude 
that darwin could be run on x86 - but I think all the x86 talk was 
just hypothetical - would only happen in real life if some hardcore 
coders had alot of spare time on their hands...
Apple will not invest it, I wonder.
-john
On Jul 1, 2004, at 9:28 PM, Eitarou Kamo wrote:
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Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-07-01 Thread Eitarou Kamo
HI Justin,
Justin Walker wrote:
On Jul 1, 2004, at 5:28, Eitarou Kamo wrote:

Darwin, as the underpinnings for Mac OS X, is entirely open source, in 
the sense that you can build a running Darwin system from the 
open-source code available from Apple. You can't completely replace 
corresponding components in Mac OS X with code from the Darwin code 
base and have a working system (some frameworks/libraries are only 
partially open source).

Some components of the kernel are not open-source, but they are not 
needed to build a Darwin system, or to build a kernel that can replace 
the one you have on a running Mac OS X system. These components are 
loadable kernel modules, and as such, will load into a rebuilt kernel 
of the same version level.

Hope that isn't too confusing.
It may be OK, I guess. I didn't know Darwin well so far. and
I'm not going to port or derive Darwin to other systems. But
I'm interested in a bit.
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Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-07-01 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi Q,
Q wrote:

My curiosity is that the FreeBSD and NetBSD license are left.
And should those licenses are kept after porting?

Yes the original license and copyright notices are all kept intact, 
it's one of the requirements of virtually every opensource license. To 
remove them would be a violation of the original copyright holders 
requirements.

This is important. For the people to port from now this must
be a point, not to port beyond the law.
The words "Redistributions" in the FreeBSD License includes
"porting"?
But I heard, the algorithm of the source code wasn't preserved
by the copyright. In the case of the porting from FreeBSD to other
different flavor OS (e.g. Linux), the algorithm is used. But the 
variables or
way of writing is not used. In this case what should I do? Ethically I 
should
notice FreeBSD license. But It's a bit contradiction, I think.

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Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-07-01 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi all,
This is just correction of previous post.
Eitarou Kamo wrote:
#if 0
My curiosity is that the FreeBSD and NetBSD license are left.
And should those licenses are kept after porting?
#else
My curiosity is if the FreeBSD and NetBSD license are left.
And should those licenses are kept after porting?
#endif
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Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-07-01 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi Chris and all,
Chris Zumbrunn wrote:

Some of the things that have been adopted from FreeBSD/NetBSD in the 
Darwin kernel include:

Crypto support
Filesystem support for CD9660, DEVFS, NFS, VFS, MEMDEV (Curiously 
this doesn't include UFS/FFS support)
IP & IPV6 TCP stack support including BPF & IPFW
Most of the BSD/Posix/SYSV system calls (sysctl, fork, exec, ktrace, 
mmap, etc) and corresponding MAN pages.

My curiosity is that the FreeBSD and NetBSD license are left.
And should those licenses are kept after porting?
Eitarou
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Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-07-01 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi Q and all,
Q wrote:
The portions of the FreeBSD kernel that Apple have adopted can be 
found as part of the XNU project (the darwin kernel) from Apple's 
Opensource website
http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/
The CVS tags should still be intact on the files in question.

Is the darwin entirely open source?
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Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-06-29 Thread Eitarou Kamo
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Re: FreeBSD and MacOS

2004-06-29 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi Julian or guys,
Julian Elischer wrote:
 

There are bits of FreeBSD in the kernel..
the majority of the importing has been in the userland however where
the UNIX userland is mostly based on FreeBSD (or so I'm told)
 

There seem to be some stories about Mac X.
I have read the article which mentioned that for Mac X
Apple hired a core developer of FreeBSD as the manager.
and he and his team made BSD flavor of Mac X. But I heard
Mac X is based on NetBSD, too. I'm confused a bit.
Any idea?
I will be back umass issue. For a while I have left it.
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umass0: CBI reset failed, Timeout.... 4.10-R

2004-06-15 Thread Eitarou Kamo
Hi,
(B
(BI have some questions about umass and USB.
(B
(BI installed 4.10-R to Sony vaio laptop. and rebooted
(Bwithout any memory stick.
(BIn boot process, my machine said that
(B
(Bumass0: CBI reset failed, TIMEOUT
(Bumass0: CBI bulk-in stall clear failed, TIMEOUT
(Bumass0: CBI bulk-out stall clear failed, TIMEOUT
(B
(B5 times( about 20 min). and didn't prompt "login:".
(B
(Band I look into source code by my debug print.
(B
(BIt seems that reflexive loop occurs between uhci_callout( , ,
(Buhci_poll_hub,)
(Band uhci_poll_hub(). Now uhci_callout is called from uhci_power(). and
(Buhci_poll_hub() have a path
(B
(Bif (p[0] == 0)
(B/* No change, try again in a while */
(Breturn;
(B
(BIf return here, loop occurs. Because uhci_poll_hub()
(Bincludes uhci_callout( , , uhci_poll_hub,).
(B
(BDoes anyone know? any idea?
(B
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(B++ unci_poll_hub()+++
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(Buhci_poll_hub(void *addr)
(B{
(Busbd_xfer_handle xfer = addr;
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splusb splx

2004-06-07 Thread Eitarou Kamo
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(BI'm new to this list. and I have some question about
(Buhci.c and USB issue.
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(BWhat are the splusb() and splx()?
(Band how is the reration between uhci_idone() and splusb()?
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(BAbove the uhci_idone() in uhci.c "/* called at splusb() */"
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(BAny helps are appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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