Re: I'm resigning from FreeBSD

2003-12-27 Thread Richard Coleman
I think the FreeBSD is dying crowd from slashdot have found the 
FreeBSD mailing lists.  They must be mad because they got a lump of coal 
in their Christmas stocking.

Richard Coleman
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Pull-Henning Kunt wrote:
Back in the day, around FreeBSD 2.2.8, it was a very nice
 operating system. However, when RELENG_5 was branched, a
 lot of wrong decisions were made, most of them by people
with zero clue about how to implement proper SMP (e.g. John
Baldwin). Matt Dillon tried to fix the situation, but all he
 got in response was a commit bit suspension, which later
lead to his expulsion (1)
(1) http://slashdot.org/articles/03/02/03/239238.shtml?tid=122tid=156

You can thank assholes like: Poul-Henning Kamp
(POT, KETTLE, BLACK), Greg Lehey, Dag-Erling Smorgrav,
Mark Murray and Bill Fumerola for kicking him out and making
sure that, thanks to overengineering, RELENG_5 will never work.
Pull-Henning Kunt FreeBSD coreteam member
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Re: I'm resigning from FreeBSD

2003-12-27 Thread Lucas Holt
Funny, I see people switching to *BSD from Linux all the time.  I've 
converted quite a few people at Western Michigan where i'm a student.

Most people think of FreeBSD as the new linux.  You have to think to 
use it, as opposed to the redhat idiot wizards.

That guy who quit reminded me of Theo from the OpenBSD project for some 
reason.  I read the exchange between him and the NetBSD group when they 
kicked him out.  Maybe that guy will get pissed and do something cool 
like Theo did.

Lucas Holt
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'Re-implementing what I designed in 1979 is not interesting to me 
personally. For kids who are 20 years younger than me, Linux is a great 
way to cut your teeth. It's a cultural phenomenon and a business 
phenomenon. Mac OS X is a rock-solid system that's beautifully 
designed. I much prefer it to Linux.'
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Re: I'm resigning from FreeBSD

2003-12-27 Thread Ceri Davies
On Sat, Dec 27, 2003 at 12:12:03PM -0500, Lucas Holt wrote:
 Funny, I see people switching to *BSD from Linux all the time.  I've 
 converted quite a few people at Western Michigan where i'm a student.
 
 Most people think of FreeBSD as the new linux.  You have to think to 
 use it, as opposed to the redhat idiot wizards.
 
 That guy who quit reminded me of Theo from the OpenBSD project for some 
 reason.  I read the exchange between him and the NetBSD group when they 
 kicked him out.  Maybe that guy will get pissed and do something cool 
 like Theo did.

Nobody quit.

Ceri

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Re: I'm resigning from FreeBSD

2003-12-27 Thread Per Engelbrecht
Hi everyone
Let's drop this thread and try to hush up these ignorant
self-centred kids. They're presumably just misplaced windows-users
anyway.. but frankly, I don't care.
This leads nowhere.

Best regards

/per
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 On Sat, Dec 27, 2003 at 12:12:03PM -0500, Lucas Holt wrote:
 Funny, I see people switching to *BSD from Linux all the time.
 I've  converted quite a few people at Western Michigan where
 i'm a student.

 Most people think of FreeBSD as the new linux.  You have to
 think to  use it, as opposed to the redhat idiot wizards.

 That guy who quit reminded me of Theo from the OpenBSD project
 for some  reason.  I read the exchange between him and the
 NetBSD group when they  kicked him out.  Maybe that guy will get
 pissed and do something cool  like Theo did.

 Nobody quit.

 Ceri

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Re: I'm resigning from FreeBSD

2003-12-27 Thread Josef Grosch
On Sat, Dec 27, 2003 at 07:37:23PM +0100, Per Engelbrecht wrote:
 Hi everyone
 Let's drop this thread and try to hush up these ignorant
 self-centred kids. They're presumably just misplaced windows-users
 anyway.. but frankly, I don't care.
 This leads nowhere.

Hear, Hear. This guy is just some random bozo. If we ignore him he will
just go away or subscribe us to dozens of random mailing lists.



Josef

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Re: I'm resigning from FreeBSD

2003-12-27 Thread Marcin Dalecki
Lucas Holt wrote:
Funny, I see people switching to *BSD from Linux all the time.  I've 
converted quite a few people at Western Michigan where i'm a student.

Most people think of FreeBSD as the new linux.  You have to think to 
use it, as opposed to the redhat idiot wizards.
Personally I just love a system which even detracted from defaulting
to perl like most UNICEs out ther nowadays (AIX/Solaris).
Boy do I hate those Java based admin tools or comparably the 
perl/python/ruby/whatever/petscriptinglanguageoftheweek
library mess found on Linux-distros. FreeBSD gives me just what I need - an
OS which is working - the rest is up to my choice. Even looking at the
kernel I can't find anything strikingly in need of immediate personal
action. Quite contrary to the Linux world where you don't have to shop
for too long...

However I can't find the GEOM related XML formatted sysctl, which
was giving me bad feelings anymore...
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I'm resigning from FreeBSD

2003-12-26 Thread Pull-Henning Kunt
Back in the day, around FreeBSD 2.2.8, it was a very nice
 operating system. However, when RELENG_5 was branched, a
 lot of wrong decisions were made, most of them by people
with zero clue about how to implement proper SMP (e.g. John
Baldwin). Matt Dillon tried to fix the situation, but all he
 got in response was a commit bit suspension, which later
lead to his expulsion (1)

(1) http://slashdot.org/articles/03/02/03/239238.shtml?tid=122tid=156

You can thank assholes like: Poul-Henning Kamp
(POT, KETTLE, BLACK), Greg Lehey, Dag-Erling Smorgrav,
Mark Murray and Bill Fumerola for kicking him out and making
sure that, thanks to overengineering, RELENG_5 will never work.

Pull-Henning Kunt FreeBSD coreteam member
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Real hackers run -current on their laptop.
ttyv0 -- What UNIX calls a kill da jews.



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Re: I'm resigning from FreeBSD

2003-12-26 Thread Ion-Mihai Tetcu

Some Cristmas spirit, heh ?

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Re: I'm resigning from FreeBSD

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