Re: Porting libumem (was Re: Is anyone working on a port of ZFS to FreeBSD)
--- Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: ... > > It may still be worth trying. I only started looking at `umem' from > sourceforge this week, but if there is more interest in ptmalloc, > maybe it is better if I focused on why ptmalloc fails to work on > FreeBSD. > FWIW, I just submitted an update to ptmalloc as a followup to ports/95179. I'm still more interested in libumem though :). Pedro. Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Porting libumem (was Re: Is anyone working on a port of ZFS to FreeBSD)
On 2006-06-02 16:44, Jason Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> IMHO, and purely as constructive criticism, Jason's article >> would've been much more interesting if he had tested ptmalloc (in >> the ports tree) and we had had libumem. > > Yes, that would have been nice, but when I tried to use ptmalloc, it > failed to work correctly. I don't remember the details anymore, but > ISTR there was something wrong with the ptmalloc port that I didn't > have the time to fix. It may still be worth trying. I only started looking at `umem' from sourceforge this week, but if there is more interest in ptmalloc, maybe it is better if I focused on why ptmalloc fails to work on FreeBSD. - Giorgos ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Porting libumem (was Re: Is anyone working on a port of ZFS to FreeBSD)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMHO, and purely as constructive criticism, Jason's article would've been much more interesting if he had tested ptmalloc (in the ports tree) and we had had libumem. Yes, that would have been nice, but when I tried to use ptmalloc, it failed to work correctly. I don't remember the details anymore, but ISTR there was something wrong with the ptmalloc port that I didn't have the time to fix. Jason ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Porting libumem (was Re: Is anyone working on a port of ZFS to FreeBSD)
--- Giorgos Keramidas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > On 2006-06-01 03:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > FWIW, I'd also like to see libumem ported. > > Me too. > > I have been toying with the idea of consulting Jason Evans about > this for a while now. If something like this starts, are you > willing to help with the port? > Such a project was started (for linux at least) http://sourceforge.net/projects/umem I don't have time right now, but yes I'd like to help. I'd surely like to see libumem in the ports tree. IMHO, and purely as constructive criticism, Jason's article would've been much more interesting if he had tested ptmalloc (in the ports tree) and we had had libumem. Pedro. ___ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Is anyone working on a port of ZFS to FreeBSD
On Jun 1, 2006, at 9:50 AM, Robert Watson wrote: On Thu, 1 Jun 2006, Eric Anderson wrote: Agreed it would be. I'd love to see it (I'm an advocate for as many filesystems available as possible actually). So, the real question is, who's going to volunteer to start actually porting it? People interested in volunteering can expect lots of help and interest, but should go into it knowing that it's a highly complex multi man year project, and definitely not a summer project or "free weekends" sort of thing. I'm happy to be proven wrong on that point, but it would be dishonest for me to suggest it will be easy. :-) I thought that I'd mentioned this on this list a few days ago, but there is a SoC project to port ZFS to FUSE. The person doing the work is specifically targeting Linux for this, but since we already have FUSE running on FreeBSD it seems like a pretty good way to at least get something working (assuming the SoC project completes). Jeff Bonwick's blog about it: http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/ bonwick?entry=zfs_on_fuse_linux ZFS on FUSE blog: http://zfs-on-fuse.blogspot.com/ ZFS on FUSE website/wiki: http://www.wizy.org/wiki/ZFS_on_FUSE I doubt that I'd be any help making the code work, but I certainly like to see this make to FreeBSD is possible. If there are other things that I can do to help then I'd be open to suggestions. -- Joseph Scott http://joseph.randomnetworks.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Is anyone working on a port of ZFS to FreeBSD
On Thu, 1 Jun 2006, Eric Anderson wrote: Agreed it would be. I'd love to see it (I'm an advocate for as many filesystems available as possible actually). So, the real question is, who's going to volunteer to start actually porting it? People interested in volunteering can expect lots of help and interest, but should go into it knowing that it's a highly complex multi man year project, and definitely not a summer project or "free weekends" sort of thing. I'm happy to be proven wrong on that point, but it would be dishonest for me to suggest it will be easy. :-) Robert N M Watson ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Is anyone working on a port of ZFS to FreeBSD
On 2006-06-01 03:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > FWIW, I'd also like to see libumem ported. Me too. I have been toying with the idea of consulting Jason Evans about this for a while now. If something like this starts, are you willing to help with the port? ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Is anyone working on a port of ZFS to FreeBSD
Iantcho Vassilev wrote: On 6/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- Eric Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > I realize how hard getting write support for one of those is, for > certain.You'd still have to go through the labor with ZFS though, > unless you are talking about read-only support for it. I don't know > much about licensing stuff... > Well ... one thing we can't underestimate is that SUN would actually like a port (noticed all the good PR for them Dtrace for FreeBSD has brought?) and is willing to cooperate: not coding but at least saying what to do, explaining the code, etc. Reiser doesn't care and SGI is clearly busy with other problems and hasn't really cared at all either. cheers, Pedro. > > NetBSD has a Journalling Google SoC, definitely interesting if they get > far. > > > > Pedro. > > We did too last year, but it didn't complete. I think Scott Long is > back looking at it again (I've seen some hints of life in the p4 repo). > > > Eric > I vote for ZFS as well... The argument by Pedro are more than true..and also ZFS is an incredible filesystem. It would be a SUPER SUPER step to have it on FreeBSD. Iantcho Agreed it would be. I'd love to see it (I'm an advocate for as many filesystems available as possible actually). So, the real question is, who's going to volunteer to start actually porting it? Eric -- Eric AndersonSr. Systems AdministratorCentaur Technology Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Is anyone working on a port of ZFS to FreeBSD
On 6/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- Eric Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > I realize how hard getting write support for one of those is, for > certain.You'd still have to go through the labor with ZFS though, > unless you are talking about read-only support for it. I don't know > much about licensing stuff... > Well ... one thing we can't underestimate is that SUN would actually like a port (noticed all the good PR for them Dtrace for FreeBSD has brought?) and is willing to cooperate: not coding but at least saying what to do, explaining the code, etc. Reiser doesn't care and SGI is clearly busy with other problems and hasn't really cared at all either. cheers, Pedro. > > NetBSD has a Journalling Google SoC, definitely interesting if they get > far. > > > > Pedro. > > We did too last year, but it didn't complete. I think Scott Long is > back looking at it again (I've seen some hints of life in the p4 repo). > > > Eric > I vote for ZFS as well... The argument by Pedro are more than true..and also ZFS is an incredible filesystem. It would be a SUPER SUPER step to have it on FreeBSD. Iantcho ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Is anyone working on a port of ZFS to FreeBSD
--- Eric Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > I realize how hard getting write support for one of those is, for > certain.You'd still have to go through the labor with ZFS though, > unless you are talking about read-only support for it. I don't know > much about licensing stuff... > Well ... one thing we can't underestimate is that SUN would actually like a port (noticed all the good PR for them Dtrace for FreeBSD has brought?) and is willing to cooperate: not coding but at least saying what to do, explaining the code, etc. Reiser doesn't care and SGI is clearly busy with other problems and hasn't really cared at all either. cheers, Pedro. > > NetBSD has a Journalling Google SoC, definitely interesting if they get > far. > > > > Pedro. > > We did too last year, but it didn't complete. I think Scott Long is > back looking at it again (I've seen some hints of life in the p4 repo). > > > Eric > > > > -- > > Eric AndersonSr. Systems AdministratorCentaur Technology > Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. > > Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Is anyone working on a port of ZFS to FreeBSD
--- Eric Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: ... > > > ZFS surely is cool, but I'm not sure how much it benefits FreeBSD > compared to something like journaling, or adding features to our > existing filesystem, or even write support for one of the already ported > read-only filesystems we have (like XFS, or reiserfs). > I'm afraid adding write support to XFS or reiserfs is not easy, and then there's the license issue. ZFS might not have the best license either but we can work with it. Apple's updated HFS license is also something that could be worked with but Apple is interested in ZFS too so it must have something interesting ;-). NetBSD has a Journalling Google SoC, definitely interesting if they get far. Pedro. Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Is anyone working on a port of ZFS to FreeBSD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Eric Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: ... ZFS surely is cool, but I'm not sure how much it benefits FreeBSD compared to something like journaling, or adding features to our existing filesystem, or even write support for one of the already ported read-only filesystems we have (like XFS, or reiserfs). I'm afraid adding write support to XFS or reiserfs is not easy, and then there's the license issue. ZFS might not have the best license either but we can work with it. Apple's updated HFS license is also something that could be worked with but Apple is interested in ZFS too so it must have something interesting ;-). I realize how hard getting write support for one of those is, for certain.You'd still have to go through the labor with ZFS though, unless you are talking about read-only support for it. I don't know much about licensing stuff... NetBSD has a Journalling Google SoC, definitely interesting if they get far. Pedro. We did too last year, but it didn't complete. I think Scott Long is back looking at it again (I've seen some hints of life in the p4 repo). Eric -- Eric AndersonSr. Systems AdministratorCentaur Technology Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Is anyone working on a port of ZFS to FreeBSD
Hello; --- Michael Vince <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: (I forgot to mention Apple is interested in it too) > Since this is a project that would benefit just about anyone using > FreeBSD, it would be good to see a project like this get funding or do a > fund raise. > As a summer of code project I would assume this would be to difficult of > a project to for anyone but those of a fair amount of experience? > > Mike > Back in the days when IBM released their JFS for Linux, there was a written petition asking IBM to relax the license so that it would be ported to the BSDs. IBM didn't accept but it was really nice to see all the BSDs together on this. Porting it to one BSD will help the others, but maybe (and this is mere speculation) it would be easier for FreeBSD once Dtrace is finished/imported and we get some extra OpenSolaris compatibility in the headers. FWIW, I'd also like to see libumem ported. That said, these projects usually pick up only when someone takes the flag and starts on it's own, making it easier for an interested expert to continue and polish the initial effort. Pedro. Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Is anyone working on a port of ZFS to FreeBSD
Michael Vince wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello; DragonFly and NetBSD are interested, I'm sure there's interest in FreeBSD too, but AFAICT no one has started. Here is an interesting link: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/porting/ cheers, Pedro. --- Since this is a project that would benefit just about anyone using FreeBSD, it would be good to see a project like this get funding or do a fund raise. As a summer of code project I would assume this would be to difficult of a project to for anyone but those of a fair amount of experience? Mike ZFS surely is cool, but I'm not sure how much it benefits FreeBSD compared to something like journaling, or adding features to our existing filesystem, or even write support for one of the already ported read-only filesystems we have (like XFS, or reiserfs). Eric -- Eric AndersonSr. Systems AdministratorCentaur Technology Anything that works is better than anything that doesn't. ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Is anyone working on a port of ZFS to FreeBSD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello; DragonFly and NetBSD are interested, I'm sure there's interest in FreeBSD too, but AFAICT no one has started. Here is an interesting link: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/porting/ cheers, Pedro. --- Since this is a project that would benefit just about anyone using FreeBSD, it would be good to see a project like this get funding or do a fund raise. As a summer of code project I would assume this would be to difficult of a project to for anyone but those of a fair amount of experience? Mike ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Is anyone working on a port of ZFS to FreeBSD
Hello; DragonFly and NetBSD are interested, I'm sure there's interest in FreeBSD too, but AFAICT no one has started. Here is an interesting link: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/porting/ cheers, Pedro. --- Pedro F. Giffuni M. Sc. Industrial Eng. University of Pittsburgh Mech. Eng. Universidad Nacional de Colombia --- Yahoo is powered by FreeBSDhttp://www.FreeBSD.org/ Chiacchiera con i tuoi amici in tempo reale! http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/*http://it.messenger.yahoo.com ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
