Re: Question about building source
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] David Mr. Hackers O'Brien writes: : I went thru this last month -- bsd.*.mk assumes /usr/src and the base : compilers. Peroid. People didn't want to accept that, but you are : giving more proof of it. If you want to change the assumptions of about : the base system, you have to be willing to change bsd.*.mk. Peroid. All my systems that build sources have not had a /usr/src at all for at least three years, maybe 4 now. Nothing in bsd.*.mk assumes /usr/src and things work just fine without them. And have for years. Terry must be doing something else wrong. :-) You may be right about non-default compilers. We at timing solutions have a bunch of files that wrap bsd.*.mk that allow us to change the compiler to compile our sources. But I've always run into problems trying to do that in the past. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Question about building source
David Mr. Hackers O'Brien wrote: On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 08:28:41AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: If it doesn't work as you have said, make release' also _doesn't_ work; we cannot make a distribution. Obviously, it's wrong:) I think you are missing the facts: ... o Look in /usr/share/bsd.prog.mk for .if defined(DESTDIR); it overrides my compiler defaults for the values of CFLAGS and CXXINCLUDES. This makes them _WRONG_: ... The BSD .mk files insist on using the wrong .mk files; I don't know how much clearer I can make it?!? I went thru this last month -- bsd.*.mk assumes /usr/src and the base compilers. Peroid. People didn't want to accept that, but you are giving more proof of it. If you want to change the assumptions of about the base system, you have to be willing to change bsd.*.mk. Peroid. It's trivial to fix. I've posted the patches twice, now; I've had the problem since 3.x, when I was working at Whistle, and first had the problem, after fixing threaded exception handling in g++ with Jeremy Allison. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Question about building source
Makoto MATSUSHITA wrote:
tlambert2 It still breaks. See bsd.orig.mk; you _can't_ use a
tlambert2 compiler other than one installed in the default location,
tlambert2 or it will override the compiler defaults which tell it
tlambert2 where the correct header and crt0 files live. Really.
???
If you run 'chroot /vol1/FreeBSD /bin/sh', you'll get an environment
that /vol1/FreeBSD is /; Compiler is in /usr/bin/cc. Headers are in
/usr/include. Crt* files are in /usr/lib. All files are located as it
should be.
If it doesn't work as you have said, make release' also _doesn't_
work; we cannot make a distribution. Obviously, it's wrong:)
I think you are missing the facts:
o I am using a non-default compiler installation, so
that mu C++ include directory is in /usr/local/include
o DESTDIR is set
o Look in /usr/share/bsd.prog.mk for .if defined(DESTDIR);
it overrides my compiler defaults for the values of CFLAGS
and CXXINCLUDES. This makes them _WRONG_:
.if defined(DESTDIR)
CFLAGS+= -I${DESTDIR}/usr/include
CXXINCLUDES+= -I${DESTDIR}/usr/include/g++
.endif
o Look in /usr/share/bsd.lib.mk: it does the same thing:
.if defined(DESTDIR)
CFLAGS+= -I${DESTDIR}/usr/include
CXXINCLUDES+= -I${DESTDIR}/usr/include/g++
.endif
Specifically, you get the _WRONG_ rtti and other C++ header
files, which makes exceptions and run time type information
_NOT WORK_.
See also:
http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/share/mk/bsd.prog.mk?rev=1.86.2.3content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup
http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk?rev=1.91.2.1content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup
The /usr/include/g++ files are _WRONG_...
The /usr/local/include/g++ are _RIGHT_...
The BSD .mk files insist on using the wrong .mk files; I don't
know how much clearer I can make it?!?
-- Terry
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Re: Question about building source
On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 08:28:41AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: If it doesn't work as you have said, make release' also _doesn't_ work; we cannot make a distribution. Obviously, it's wrong:) I think you are missing the facts: ... o Look in /usr/share/bsd.prog.mk for .if defined(DESTDIR); it overrides my compiler defaults for the values of CFLAGS and CXXINCLUDES. This makes them _WRONG_: ... The BSD .mk files insist on using the wrong .mk files; I don't know how much clearer I can make it?!? I went thru this last month -- bsd.*.mk assumes /usr/src and the base compilers. Peroid. People didn't want to accept that, but you are giving more proof of it. If you want to change the assumptions of about the base system, you have to be willing to change bsd.*.mk. Peroid. -- -- David ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Question about building source
Makoto MATSUSHITA wrote: tlambert2 FWIW: This breaks if you have updated your C++ compiler, tlambert2 since the .mk files incorrectly override the paths for tlambert2 thing like the RTTI header files and the CRT0 stuff... We have chroot(8) already, no problems:) Perhaps the original poster assume that /vol1/FreeBSD is for a jail(8) environment. It still breaks. See bsd.orig.mk; you _can't_ use a compiler other than one installed in the default location, or it will override the compiler defaults which tell it where the correct header and crt0 files live. Really. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Question about building source
tlambert2 It still breaks. See bsd.orig.mk; you _can't_ use a tlambert2 compiler other than one installed in the default location, tlambert2 or it will override the compiler defaults which tell it tlambert2 where the correct header and crt0 files live. Really. ??? If you run 'chroot /vol1/FreeBSD /bin/sh', you'll get an environment that /vol1/FreeBSD is /; Compiler is in /usr/bin/cc. Headers are in /usr/include. Crt* files are in /usr/lib. All files are located as it should be. If it doesn't work as you have said, make release' also _doesn't_ work; we cannot make a distribution. Obviously, it's wrong:) -- - Makoto `MAR' MATSUSHITA To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Question about building source
Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It still breaks. See bsd.orig.mk; you _can't_ use a compiler other than one installed in the default location, or it will override the compiler defaults which tell it where the correct header and crt0 files live. Really. So this breaks the C++ compiler and any apps that were compiled with this? Forgive me if I don't understand this... -- Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The opinions expressed above are entirely my own They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.-Benjamin Franklin To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Question about building source
dave $ cd /usr/src dave $ make installworld DESTDIR=/vol1/FreeBSD dave will install the entire OS into /vol1/FreeBSD? Yes (or it should be). dave Has anyone ever tried this? ;) You should have already seen the result that uses make installworld DESTDIR=/what/ever -- FreeBSD distribution itself :-) -- - Makoto `MAR' MATSUSHITA To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Question about building source
Makoto MATSUSHITA wrote: dave $ cd /usr/src dave $ make installworld DESTDIR=/vol1/FreeBSD dave will install the entire OS into /vol1/FreeBSD? Yes (or it should be). dave Has anyone ever tried this? ;) You should have already seen the result that uses make installworld DESTDIR=/what/ever -- FreeBSD distribution itself :-) FWIW: This breaks if you have updated your C++ compiler, since the .mk files incorrectly override the paths for thing like the RTTI header files and the CRT0 stuff... -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
Re: Question about building source
tlambert2 FWIW: This breaks if you have updated your C++ compiler, tlambert2 since the .mk files incorrectly override the paths for tlambert2 thing like the RTTI header files and the CRT0 stuff... We have chroot(8) already, no problems:) Perhaps the original poster assume that /vol1/FreeBSD is for a jail(8) environment. -- - Makoto `MAR' MATSUSHITA To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message
