Re: Question about building source

2001-05-07 Thread Makoto MATSUSHITA


dave> $ cd /usr/src
dave> $ make installworld DESTDIR=/vol1/FreeBSD
dave> will install the entire OS into /vol1/FreeBSD?

Yes (or it should be).

dave> Has anyone ever tried this? ;)

You should have already seen the result that uses "make installworld
DESTDIR=/what/ever" -- FreeBSD distribution itself :-)

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Re: Question about building source

2001-05-08 Thread Terry Lambert

Makoto MATSUSHITA wrote:
> dave> $ cd /usr/src
> dave> $ make installworld DESTDIR=/vol1/FreeBSD
> dave> will install the entire OS into /vol1/FreeBSD?
> 
> Yes (or it should be).
> 
> dave> Has anyone ever tried this? ;)
> 
> You should have already seen the result that uses "make installworld
> DESTDIR=/what/ever" -- FreeBSD distribution itself :-)

FWIW: This breaks if you have updated your C++ compiler,
since the .mk files incorrectly override the paths for
thing like the RTTI header files and the CRT0 stuff...

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Re: Question about building source

2001-05-08 Thread Makoto MATSUSHITA


tlambert2> FWIW: This breaks if you have updated your C++ compiler,
tlambert2> since the .mk files incorrectly override the paths for
tlambert2> thing like the RTTI header files and the CRT0 stuff...

We have chroot(8) already, no problems:) Perhaps the original poster
assume that /vol1/FreeBSD is for a jail(8) environment.

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Re: Question about building source

2001-05-09 Thread Terry Lambert

Makoto MATSUSHITA wrote:
> 
> tlambert2> FWIW: This breaks if you have updated your C++ compiler,
> tlambert2> since the .mk files incorrectly override the paths for
> tlambert2> thing like the RTTI header files and the CRT0 stuff...
> 
> We have chroot(8) already, no problems:) Perhaps the original poster
> assume that /vol1/FreeBSD is for a jail(8) environment.

It still breaks.  See bsd.orig.mk; you _can't_ use a compiler
other than one installed in the default location, or it will
override the compiler defaults which tell it where the correct
header and crt0 files live.  Really.

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Re: Question about building source

2001-05-09 Thread Makoto MATSUSHITA


tlambert2> It still breaks.  See bsd.orig.mk; you _can't_ use a
tlambert2> compiler other than one installed in the default location,
tlambert2> or it will override the compiler defaults which tell it
tlambert2> where the correct header and crt0 files live.  Really.

???

If you run 'chroot /vol1/FreeBSD /bin/sh', you'll get an environment
that /vol1/FreeBSD is /; Compiler is in /usr/bin/cc.  Headers are in
/usr/include. Crt* files are in /usr/lib.  All files are located as it
should be.

If it doesn't work as you have said, "make release' also _doesn't_
work; we cannot make a distribution. Obviously, it's wrong:)

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Re: Question about building source

2001-05-09 Thread Dave Hayes

Terry Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> It still breaks.  See bsd.orig.mk; you _can't_ use a compiler
> other than one installed in the default location, or it will
> override the compiler defaults which tell it where the correct
> header and crt0 files live.  Really.

So this breaks the C++ compiler and any apps that were compiled with
this? Forgive me if I don't understand this...
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Re: Question about building source

2001-05-10 Thread Terry Lambert

Makoto MATSUSHITA wrote:
> tlambert2> It still breaks.  See bsd.orig.mk; you _can't_ use a
> tlambert2> compiler other than one installed in the default location,
> tlambert2> or it will override the compiler defaults which tell it
> tlambert2> where the correct header and crt0 files live.  Really.
> 
> ???
> 
> If you run 'chroot /vol1/FreeBSD /bin/sh', you'll get an environment
> that /vol1/FreeBSD is /; Compiler is in /usr/bin/cc.  Headers are in
> /usr/include. Crt* files are in /usr/lib.  All files are located as it
> should be.
> 
> If it doesn't work as you have said, "make release' also _doesn't_
> work; we cannot make a distribution. Obviously, it's wrong:)

I think you are missing the facts:

o   I am using a non-default compiler installation, so
that mu C++ include directory is in /usr/local/include

o   DESTDIR is set

o   Look in /usr/share/bsd.prog.mk for ".if defined(DESTDIR)";
it overrides my compiler defaults for the values of CFLAGS
and CXXINCLUDES.  This makes them _WRONG_:

.if defined(DESTDIR)
CFLAGS+= -I${DESTDIR}/usr/include
CXXINCLUDES+= -I${DESTDIR}/usr/include/g++
.endif

o   Look in /usr/share/bsd.lib.mk: it does the same thing:

.if defined(DESTDIR)
CFLAGS+= -I${DESTDIR}/usr/include
CXXINCLUDES+= -I${DESTDIR}/usr/include/g++
.endif

Specifically, you get the _WRONG_  and other C++ header
files, which makes exceptions and run time type information
_NOT WORK_.

See also:

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/share/mk/bsd.prog.mk?rev=1.86.2.3&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup

http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/share/mk/bsd.lib.mk?rev=1.91.2.1&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup

The /usr/include/g++ files are _WRONG_...

The /usr/local/include/g++ are _RIGHT_...

The BSD .mk files insist on using the wrong .mk files; I don't
know how much clearer I can make it?!?


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Re: Question about building source

2001-05-10 Thread David Mr. Hackers O'Brien

On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 08:28:41AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > If it doesn't work as you have said, "make release' also _doesn't_
> > work; we cannot make a distribution. Obviously, it's wrong:)
> 
> I think you are missing the facts:
... 
> o Look in /usr/share/bsd.prog.mk for ".if defined(DESTDIR)";
>   it overrides my compiler defaults for the values of CFLAGS
>   and CXXINCLUDES.  This makes them _WRONG_:
... 
> The BSD .mk files insist on using the wrong .mk files; I don't
> know how much clearer I can make it?!?

I went thru this last month -- bsd.*.mk assumes /usr/src and the base
compilers.  Peroid.  People didn't want to accept that, but you are
giving more proof of it.  If you want to change the assumptions of about
the base system, you have to be willing to change bsd.*.mk.  Peroid.

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Re: Question about building source

2001-05-12 Thread Terry Lambert

"David Mr. Hackers O'Brien" wrote:
> On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 08:28:41AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote:
> > > If it doesn't work as you have said, "make release' also _doesn't_
> > > work; we cannot make a distribution. Obviously, it's wrong:)
> >
> > I think you are missing the facts:
> ...
> > o Look in /usr/share/bsd.prog.mk for ".if defined(DESTDIR)";
> >   it overrides my compiler defaults for the values of CFLAGS
> >   and CXXINCLUDES.  This makes them _WRONG_:
> ...
> > The BSD .mk files insist on using the wrong .mk files; I don't
> > know how much clearer I can make it?!?
> 
> I went thru this last month -- bsd.*.mk assumes /usr/src and
> the base compilers.  Peroid.  People didn't want to accept
> that, but you are giving more proof of it.  If you want to
> change the assumptions of about the base system, you have to
> be willing to change bsd.*.mk.  Peroid.

It's trivial to fix.  I've posted the patches twice, now;
I've had the problem since 3.x, when I was working at
Whistle, and first had the problem, after fixing threaded
exception handling in g++ with Jeremy Allison.

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Re: Question about building source

2001-05-13 Thread Warner Losh

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "David Mr. Hackers O'Brien" writes:
: I went thru this last month -- bsd.*.mk assumes /usr/src and the base
: compilers.  Peroid.  People didn't want to accept that, but you are
: giving more proof of it.  If you want to change the assumptions of about
: the base system, you have to be willing to change bsd.*.mk.  Peroid.

All my systems that build sources have not had a /usr/src at all for
at least three years, maybe 4 now.  Nothing in bsd.*.mk assumes
/usr/src and things work just fine without them.  And have for years.
Terry must be doing something else wrong. :-)

You may be right about non-default compilers.  We at timing solutions
have a bunch of files that wrap bsd.*.mk that allow us to change the
compiler to compile our sources.  But I've always run into problems
trying to do that in the past.

Warner

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