Re: how many IP aliases

2004-05-28 Thread Steven Hartland
Cant u use namebased vhosts? Or different ports?

Steve
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 Hi guys.
 
 Can anyone tell me what is the limit for how many IP aliases can be setup 
 on the same ethernet card?
 
 Is there a global limit for the total number of aliases in the OS?
 
 To be clear: one needs 128 IPs (for irc vhosts) to be setup on one server. 
 Is that impossible?



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Re: how many IP aliases

2004-05-28 Thread Steven Hartland
Ah I assumed u meant irc vhost servers
Still leaves there question why would each psync require a specific IP?
If the IRC network you connection to limits on connections per IP
e.g.  QuakeNet ( which all should do ). You just need to apply
for a trust for X connections and your all sorted. Using multiple
IP's for such a use would be totally wasteful.

Steve 
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 Different ports? Why would be using different ports different? They (users) 
 need to go out to irc with a different IP each time they connect. In order 
 to do that, psybnc needs to use that specific IP when connecting outside to 
 the IRC server. I don't see how different ports will change this situation.
 
 Nambased vhosts work for web, I guess, but not for IRC.
 
 Let one correct me if I am wrong.



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how many IP aliases

2004-05-27 Thread Anton Alin-Adrian
Hi guys.
Can anyone tell me what is the limit for how many IP aliases can be setup 
on the same ethernet card?

Is there a global limit for the total number of aliases in the OS?
To be clear: one needs 128 IPs (for irc vhosts) to be setup on one server. 
Is that impossible?

Thanks!
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Re: how many IP aliases

2004-05-27 Thread Anton Alin-Adrian
Steven Hartland wrote:
Cant u use namebased vhosts? Or different ports?
Steve
Different ports? Why would be using different ports different? They (users) 
need to go out to irc with a different IP each time they connect. In order 
to do that, psybnc needs to use that specific IP when connecting outside to 
the IRC server. I don't see how different ports will change this situation.

Nambased vhosts work for web, I guess, but not for IRC.
Let one correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks for all the replies. 240 IPs is far enough.

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Subject: how many IP aliases


Hi guys.
Can anyone tell me what is the limit for how many IP aliases can be setup 
on the same ethernet card?

Is there a global limit for the total number of aliases in the OS?
To be clear: one needs 128 IPs (for irc vhosts) to be setup on one server. 
Is that impossible?


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Re: how many IP aliases

2004-05-27 Thread Anton Alin-Adrian
Steven Hartland wrote:
Ah I assumed u meant irc vhost servers
Still leaves there question why would each psync require a specific IP?
If the IRC network you connection to limits on connections per IP
e.g.  QuakeNet ( which all should do ). You just need to apply
for a trust for X connections and your all sorted. Using multiple
IP's for such a use would be totally wasteful.
Our ISP's policy is that when one IP gets flooded, it gets blocked from 
internet access for a while.

That's the reason for so many IPs. Not perfect, but helps a lot.

Steve 
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Different ports? Why would be using different ports different? They (users) 
need to go out to irc with a different IP each time they connect. In order 
to do that, psybnc needs to use that specific IP when connecting outside to 
the IRC server. I don't see how different ports will change this situation.

Nambased vhosts work for web, I guess, but not for IRC.
Let one correct me if I am wrong.


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Re: how many IP aliases

2004-05-27 Thread Brooks Davis
On Thu, May 27, 2004 at 04:03:58PM +0300, Anton Alin-Adrian wrote:
 Hi guys.
 
 Can anyone tell me what is the limit for how many IP aliases can be setup 
 on the same ethernet card?
 
 Is there a global limit for the total number of aliases in the OS?
 
 To be clear: one needs 128 IPs (for irc vhosts) to be setup on one server. 
 Is that impossible?

Addresses are attached to an interface in a linked list so there may be
some inefficenies, but I don't see any reason why 128 IPs shouldn't
work.

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Re: how many IP aliases

2004-05-27 Thread Per Engelbrecht
Hi Alin

 Can anyone tell me what is the limit for how many IP aliases can be
 setup  on the same ethernet card?

 Is there a global limit for the total number of aliases in the OS?

 To be clear: one needs 128 IPs (for irc vhosts) to be setup on one
 server.  Is that impossible?

I don't know the exact max. number for aliases on a single nic, but I
do know that 128 addresses isn't a problem - depending of course on
your setup such as ram, cpu, board and last but not least, nic.
Don't do it on a $20 nomame-nic.

respectfully
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Re: how many IP aliases

2004-05-27 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Per Engelbrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I don't know the exact max. number for aliases on a single nic,

There is no upper limit.

 but I
 do know that 128 addresses isn't a problem - depending of course on
 your setup such as ram, cpu, board and last but not least, nic.
 Don't do it on a $20 nomame-nic.

It doesn't make any difference to the NIC.

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Re: how many IP aliases

2004-05-27 Thread Per Engelbrecht

 There is no upper limit.

ok.
  I
 do know that 128 addresses isn't a problem - depending of course
 on your setup such as ram, cpu, board and last but not least,
 nic. Don't do it on a $20 nomame-nic.

 It doesn't make any difference to the NIC.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but addresses to a interface is 'managed'
by SIOCAIFADDR and yes, that has noting to do with the nic itself.

But a server-box with a $20 noname-nic with a small amount of ram,
a slow cpu and 128 ip-aliases sounds more like a academic exercise
(even though it can be done) than a practical solution.
Again correct me if I'm wrong.

respectfully
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Re: how many IP aliases

2004-05-27 Thread Anton Alin-Adrian
Per Engelbrecht wrote:
There is no upper limit.

ok.
  I
great. got that.
do know that 128 addresses isn't a problem - depending of course
on your setup such as ram, cpu, board and last but not least,
nic. Don't do it on a $20 nomame-nic.
It doesn't make any difference to the NIC.
Well I understand it's just a linked list with aprox 128 nodes. That should 
be OK on decent RAM and CPU.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but addresses to a interface is 'managed'
by SIOCAIFADDR and yes, that has noting to do with the nic itself.
They have nothing to do with NICs, they have to do with OS implementation.
NICs talk on ethernet level, and I don't know any NIC's designed with 
special hardware for handling IP aliases. Intel's FXPs rule, because they 
even do CRC and QoS with microchip:).

Probably his point was no-name hardware with small buffers may add to the 
latency.

Thank you all so much!
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