RE: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-08-13 Thread Andrew Hotlab

 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:20:36 -0700
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0

 On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 02:53:32PM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote:
 At 01:54 PM 8/12/2008, Andrew Hotlab wrote:
 I tried to boot without disks using the new firmware, but nothing
 changed! Then I created a new RAID0
 set/volume using only a single SATA drive (it was used as online
 spare), but still not success... I'm afraid
 to have ended any ideas about what it might be the cause of this trouble!! 
 :(

 I'll go on changing PCI-X slot of the Areca card, but I'm going to
 became pessimistic about a successful
 end of this story... sigh!


 MB BIOS update ?  On some more exotic boards I find I sometimes have to
 disable some features, typically USB related, if there are problems.  Not
 sure in your case.  I think MSI is enabled by default on 7 and not on 6,
 so perhaps something on the board does not like that ?  Try disabling it
 in the loader.conf

 hw.pci.enable_msi=0

 Don't forget MSI-X:

 hw.pci.enable_msix=0

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Sorry for the late post, my Windows Live Hotmail mailbox suffered a 
disruption... :(

I flashed the BIOS of the Supermicro H8DAE with the latest update available 
(v1.1a to v1.1b). With
both the old and the new version of the BIOS to modify sysctl tunables do not 
resolve the problem, but
I've found that FreeBSD 7.0R boots successfully simply by changing the PCI-X 
slot for the Areca card!!!

I've also verified that 7.0R boots when only the RAID card is plugged in the 
system (removing the Intel
Pro/1000MT Quad Port adapter)... it might be changed something in the latest 
FreeBSD release causing
the fault with this particular hardware configuration.

Thanks you all very much to have supported me in solving this trouble... that 
system will be the
first physical Unix BSD host that can be considered in production in my 
network! I'm going to
begin the setup! :)

Andrew
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RE: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-08-12 Thread Andrew Hotlab

My card has no battery backup, but I disconnected the machine power cord and 
pulled
the card off itsPCI-X slot.

After few minutes I reconnected the card and I booted the machine without any
hard drive. Then the same issue arised with the 7.0-RELEASE.



 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:09:04 -0600
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0
 
 Pull the battery from the unit and reset the configuration. Reconnect the 
 battery when the system boots FreeBSD properly.
 
 ---
 Barkley C. Vowk -- Systems Analyst -- University of Alberta
 Math Sciences Department - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Office: CAB642A, 780-492-4064
 
 Opinions expressed are the responsibility of the author and
 may not reflect the opinions of others or reality.
 
 On Mon, 11 Aug 2008, Andrew Hotlab wrote:
 

 Hi to all. I've finally convinced my IT manager to replace a MSFT Windows 
 Server Virtual Server host with
 a FreeBSD 7 jail host. Obviously, before proposing this change I checked 
 that our hardware was supported
 by the FreeBSD platform, but as soon as I boot the FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE/amd64 
 CD-ROM the systems
 hangs!

 I also tried the i386 version of the same release experiencing the same 
 trouble. By using a 6.3-RELEASE
 CD-ROM all works well (excluding some warnings still showing during the 
 boot). I compared the source files
 of the driver arcmsr(4) without finding any real difference: both of them 
 are at the 1.20.00.15 revision, but
 I'm not a very experienced FreeBSD sysadmin (yet!), and I need at least your 
 opinions about this trouble!

 I think the most complete set of informations I can give you are the verbose 
 boot logs of both the 6.3 and
 7.0 releases (sorry for the log post), but I'm ready to submit whatever data 
 you want... please help me to
 put Windows out of my datacenter! :)


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RE: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-08-12 Thread Andrew Hotlab

Thanks for the suggestion, Mike. I've just tested both FreeBSD/amd64 6.3 and 
7.0 releases with both 1.43 and 1.44 Areca firmware revisions, but nothing 
seems changed: 6.3 boots up, while 7.0 hangs! :(

You can confirm me that you are successfully using FreeBSD 7.0R with the 1.43 
firmware? If it's so, we might compare our hardware components to find out if 
and what are differences...

Thanks a lot for your help.


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 Subject: Re: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0
 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:13:56 -0400
 
 On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:54:41 +, in sentex.lists.freebsd.hardware
 you wrote:
arcmsr0:  mem 0xfc7ff000-0xfc7f,0xfc00-0xfc3f irq 31 at device 
14.0 on pci2
arcmsr0: Reserved 0x1000 bytes for rid 0x10 type 3 at 0xfc7ff000
ARECA RAID ADAPTER0: Driver Version 1.20.00.15 2007-10-07 
ARECA RAID ADAPTER0: FIRMWARE VERSION V1.39 2006-2-9   
 
 
 Not sure it will help you or not, but I run the same card with version
 1.43 of the firmware.  I would try to upgrade the Areca card's
 firmware and then give 7.0R another try.  
 
   ---Mike

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RE: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-08-12 Thread Andrew Hotlab

 At 11:11 AM 8/12/2008, Andrew Hotlab wrote:
 
You can confirm me that you are successfully using FreeBSD 7.0R with 
the 1.43 firmware? If it's so, we might compare our hardware 
components to find out if and what are differences...
 
 
 Hi,
  The dmesg below is on a supermicro board.  Actually, if you 
 take the Areca out, does 7.0R boot up ?  As mentioned by another 
 poster, try the RELENG_7 snapshot to see if it boots with that. If 
 you are starting fresh, I would suggest it as there are a number of 
 bug fixes and enhancements in the snapshot and its quite stable.
 
 

Hi Mike... you've read in my mind: I tried to boot up 7.0R without the card 
immediately after I sent my
last e-mail! :)  I can confirm that all works like a charm without the Areca 
card. So, where the problem might lie?!  I tested the card with both 7.0-STABLE 
and 8.0-CURRENT (it hangs even before) without
success... :(

P.S.: during all these tests I was always verifying that the card itself was 
always functioning well, by
booting the Windows Server 2003 x64 installed on the RAID set.

 
 
Thanks a lot for your help.


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0
 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:13:56 -0400

 On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:54:41 +, in sentex.lists.freebsd.hardware
 you wrote:
arcmsr0:  mem 0xfc7ff000-0xfc7f,0xfc00-0xfc3f irq 31 
 at device 14.0 on pci2
arcmsr0: Reserved 0x1000 bytes for rid 0x10 type 3 at 0xfc7ff000
ARECA RAID ADAPTER0: Driver Version 1.20.00.15 2007-10-07
ARECA RAID ADAPTER0: FIRMWARE VERSION V1.39 2006-2-9


 Not sure it will help you or not, but I run the same card with version
 1.43 of the firmware.  I would try to upgrade the Areca card's
 firmware and then give 7.0R another try.

   ---Mike


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RE: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-08-12 Thread Barkley Vowk

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Andrew Hotlab wrote:



My card has no battery backup, but I disconnected the machine power cord and 
pulled
the card off itsPCI-X slot.

After few minutes I reconnected the card and I booted the machine without any
hard drive. Then the same issue arised with the 7.0-RELEASE.


Did you reset the raid configurations? I've had this problem several times 
with machines that have run the cards in Windows prior running FreeBSD.





Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:09:04 -0600
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0

Pull the battery from the unit and reset the configuration. Reconnect the
battery when the system boots FreeBSD properly.

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Math Sciences Department - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Office: CAB642A, 780-492-4064

Opinions expressed are the responsibility of the author and
may not reflect the opinions of others or reality.

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008, Andrew Hotlab wrote:



Hi to all. I've finally convinced my IT manager to replace a MSFT Windows 
Server Virtual Server host with
a FreeBSD 7 jail host. Obviously, before proposing this change I checked that 
our hardware was supported
by the FreeBSD platform, but as soon as I boot the FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE/amd64 
CD-ROM the systems
hangs!

I also tried the i386 version of the same release experiencing the same 
trouble. By using a 6.3-RELEASE
CD-ROM all works well (excluding some warnings still showing during the boot). 
I compared the source files
of the driver arcmsr(4) without finding any real difference: both of them are 
at the 1.20.00.15 revision, but
I'm not a very experienced FreeBSD sysadmin (yet!), and I need at least your 
opinions about this trouble!

I think the most complete set of informations I can give you are the verbose 
boot logs of both the 6.3 and
7.0 releases (sorry for the log post), but I'm ready to submit whatever data 
you want... please help me to
put Windows out of my datacenter! :)



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RE: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-08-12 Thread Mike Tancsa
 irqs 0
sio0: port may not be enabled
sio0: 16550A-compatible COM port port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0
sio0: type 16550A, console
sio0: [FILTER]
orm0: ISA Option ROMs at iomem 
0xc-0xc8fff,0xc9000-0xc9fff,0xca000-0xcafff,0xcb000-0xcbfff on isa0

ppc0: cannot reserve I/O port range
sc0: System console at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA 16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio1: port may not be enabled
vga0: Generic ISA VGA at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa-0xb on isa0
Timecounters tick every 1.000 msec
Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle
(probe16:arcmsr0:0:16:0): inquiry data fails comparison at DV1 step
da0 at arcmsr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: Areca ARC-1210-VOL#00 R001 Fixed Direct Access SCSI-5 device
da0: 166.666MB/s transfers (83.333MHz DT, offset 32, 16bit)
da0: 305175MB (624999424 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 38904C)
SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/da0s1a



Thanks a lot for your help.


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0
 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:13:56 -0400

 On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:54:41 +, in sentex.lists.freebsd.hardware
 you wrote:
arcmsr0:  mem 0xfc7ff000-0xfc7f,0xfc00-0xfc3f irq 31 
at device 14.0 on pci2

arcmsr0: Reserved 0x1000 bytes for rid 0x10 type 3 at 0xfc7ff000
ARECA RAID ADAPTER0: Driver Version 1.20.00.15 2007-10-07
ARECA RAID ADAPTER0: FIRMWARE VERSION V1.39 2006-2-9


 Not sure it will help you or not, but I run the same card with version
 1.43 of the firmware.  I would try to upgrade the Areca card's
 firmware and then give 7.0R another try.

   ---Mike

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RE: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-08-12 Thread Andrew Hotlab

 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:17:58 -0600
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org
 Subject: RE: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0
 
 On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Andrew Hotlab wrote:
 

 My card has no battery backup, but I disconnected the machine power cord and 
 pulled
 the card off itsPCI-X slot.

 After few minutes I reconnected the card and I booted the machine without any
 hard drive. Then the same issue arised with the 7.0-RELEASE.
 
 Did you reset the raid configurations? I've had this problem several times 
 with machines that have run the cards in Windows prior running FreeBSD.


Booting without hard drives left the card with no knowledge about RAID sets or 
volumes, since
these data are saved on them. Surely I can now retry the boot after destroying 
current RAID
configuration, which was defined for Windows (by the way, I did it by using the 
BIOS configuration
utility...), but sincerely I wish to view FreeBSD 7.0R booting at least one 
time before breaking
with the past. :)

Uhm, wait for a moment... actually all that RAID volumes were defined when the 
card's firmware
was at v1.39! What I can do now is booting the machine up with the v1.44 
firmware without any
attached drive. I'll post the result as soon as possible.

Thanks you very much!

 
 
 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:09:04 -0600
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0

 Pull the battery from the unit and reset the configuration. Reconnect the
 battery when the system boots FreeBSD properly.

 ---
 Barkley C. Vowk -- Systems Analyst -- University of Alberta
 Math Sciences Department - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Office: CAB642A, 780-492-4064

 Opinions expressed are the responsibility of the author and
 may not reflect the opinions of others or reality.

 On Mon, 11 Aug 2008, Andrew Hotlab wrote:


 Hi to all. I've finally convinced my IT manager to replace a MSFT Windows 
 Server Virtual Server host with
 a FreeBSD 7 jail host. Obviously, before proposing this change I checked 
 that our hardware was supported
 by the FreeBSD platform, but as soon as I boot the FreeBSD 
 7.0-RELEASE/amd64 CD-ROM the systems
 hangs!

 I also tried the i386 version of the same release experiencing the same 
 trouble. By using a 6.3-RELEASE
 CD-ROM all works well (excluding some warnings still showing during the 
 boot). I compared the source files
 of the driver arcmsr(4) without finding any real difference: both of them 
 are at the 1.20.00.15 revision, but
 I'm not a very experienced FreeBSD sysadmin (yet!), and I need at least 
 your opinions about this trouble!

 I think the most complete set of informations I can give you are the 
 verbose boot logs of both the 6.3 and
 7.0 releases (sorry for the log post), but I'm ready to submit whatever 
 data you want... please help me to
 put Windows out of my datacenter! :)


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RE: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-08-12 Thread Mike Tancsa

At 12:13 PM 8/12/2008, Andrew Hotlab wrote:
last e-mail! :)  I can confirm that all works like a charm without 
the Areca card. So, where the problem might lie?!  I tested the card 
with both 7.0-STABLE and 8.0-CURRENT (it hangs even before) without

success... :(


Perhaps a disk option set on the Areca ? Looking at my config, I have 
it set to

SATA300+NCQ
HDD Read Ahead Cache  enabled
Stagger Power On Control 0..4
Spin Down Idle HDD  disabled
HDD SMART status polling enabled
Disk Write Cache Mode enabled

Can you try booting without the drives, or with just a couple of 
drives with a fresh raidset created ?  I wonder if the box is booting 
up and is confused by the existing raidset ?


---Mike


P.S.: during all these tests I was always verifying that the card 
itself was always functioning well, by

booting the Windows Server 2003 x64 installed on the RAID set.



Thanks a lot for your help.


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0
 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 08:13:56 -0400

 On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:54:41 +, in sentex.lists.freebsd.hardware
 you wrote:
arcmsr0:  mem 0xfc7ff000-0xfc7f,0xfc00-0xfc3f irq 31
 at device 14.0 on pci2
arcmsr0: Reserved 0x1000 bytes for rid 0x10 type 3 at 0xfc7ff000
ARECA RAID ADAPTER0: Driver Version 1.20.00.15 2007-10-07
ARECA RAID ADAPTER0: FIRMWARE VERSION V1.39 2006-2-9


 Not sure it will help you or not, but I run the same card with version
 1.43 of the firmware.  I would try to upgrade the Areca card's
 firmware and then give 7.0R another try.

   ---Mike


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RE: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-08-12 Thread Andrew Hotlab


 My card has no battery backup, but I disconnected the machine power cord 
 and pulled
 the card off itsPCI-X slot.

 After few minutes I reconnected the card and I booted the machine without 
 any
 hard drive. Then the same issue arised with the 7.0-RELEASE.
 
 Did you reset the raid configurations? I've had this problem several times 
 with machines that have run the cards in Windows prior running FreeBSD.

 
 Booting without hard drives left the card with no knowledge about RAID sets 
 or volumes, since
 these data are saved on them. Surely I can now retry the boot after 
 destroying current RAID
 configuration, which was defined for Windows (by the way, I did it by using 
 the BIOS configuration
 utility...), but sincerely I wish to view FreeBSD 7.0R booting at least one 
 time before breaking
 with the past. :)
 
 Uhm, wait for a moment... actually all that RAID volumes were defined when 
 the card's firmware
 was at v1.39! What I can do now is booting the machine up with the v1.44 
 firmware without any
 attached drive. I'll post the result as soon as possible.
 

No improvement: I've booted first without disks and then with only a RAID0 
Volume created by
scratch using one disk that was used as online spare in the old RAID set, and 
7.0R still have not
been able to complete the boot process! :(

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RE: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-08-12 Thread Andrew Hotlab

 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 13:04:32 -0400
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0
 CC: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org
 
 At 12:13 PM 8/12/2008, Andrew Hotlab wrote:
last e-mail! :)  I can confirm that all works like a charm without 
the Areca card. So, where the problem might lie?!  I tested the card 
with both 7.0-STABLE and 8.0-CURRENT (it hangs even before) without
success... :(
 
 Perhaps a disk option set on the Areca ? Looking at my config, I have 
 it set to
 SATA300+NCQ
 HDD Read Ahead Cache  enabled
 Stagger Power On Control 0..4
 Spin Down Idle HDD  disabled
 HDD SMART status polling enabled
 Disk Write Cache Mode enabled
 
 Can you try booting without the drives, or with just a couple of 
 drives with a fresh raidset created ?  I wonder if the box is booting 
 up and is confused by the existing raidset ?
 
  ---Mike
 

My card's options were slightly different from yours (Stagger Power On 
Control was set to 0..7 and
Disk Write Cache Mode was set to Auto). Even setting them as yours the 7.0R 
didn't boot.

I tried to boot without disks using the new firmware, but nothing changed! Then 
I created a new RAID0
set/volume using only a single SATA drive (it was used as online spare), but 
still not success... I'm afraid
to have ended any ideas about what it might be the cause of this trouble!! :(

I'll go on changing PCI-X slot of the Areca card, but I'm going to became 
pessimistic about a successful
end of this story... sigh!
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RE: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-08-12 Thread Mike Tancsa

At 01:54 PM 8/12/2008, Andrew Hotlab wrote:
I tried to boot without disks using the new firmware, but nothing 
changed! Then I created a new RAID0
set/volume using only a single SATA drive (it was used as online 
spare), but still not success... I'm afraid

to have ended any ideas about what it might be the cause of this trouble!! :(

I'll go on changing PCI-X slot of the Areca card, but I'm going to 
became pessimistic about a successful

end of this story... sigh!



MB BIOS update ?  On some more exotic boards I find I sometimes have 
to disable some features, typically USB related, if there are 
problems.  Not sure in your case.  I think MSI is enabled by default 
on 7 and not on 6, so perhaps something on the board does not like 
that ?  Try disabling it in the loader.conf


hw.pci.enable_msi=0

---Mike 


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Re: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-08-12 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 02:53:32PM -0400, Mike Tancsa wrote:
 At 01:54 PM 8/12/2008, Andrew Hotlab wrote:
 I tried to boot without disks using the new firmware, but nothing  
 changed! Then I created a new RAID0
 set/volume using only a single SATA drive (it was used as online  
 spare), but still not success... I'm afraid
 to have ended any ideas about what it might be the cause of this trouble!! :(

 I'll go on changing PCI-X slot of the Areca card, but I'm going to  
 became pessimistic about a successful
 end of this story... sigh!


 MB BIOS update ?  On some more exotic boards I find I sometimes have to 
 disable some features, typically USB related, if there are problems.  Not 
 sure in your case.  I think MSI is enabled by default on 7 and not on 6, 
 so perhaps something on the board does not like that ?  Try disabling it 
 in the loader.conf

 hw.pci.enable_msi=0

Don't forget MSI-X:

hw.pci.enable_msix=0

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Re: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-08-11 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:54:41PM +, Andrew Hotlab wrote:
 Hi to all. I've finally convinced my IT manager to replace a MSFT Windows 
 Server Virtual Server host with a FreeBSD 7 jail host. Obviously, before 
 proposing this change I checked that our hardware was supported by the 
 FreeBSD platform, but as soon as I boot the FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE/amd64 CD-ROM 
 the systems hangs!

Do you see any improvement using a 7.0-STABLE snapshot?

ftp://ftp4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/200808/

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RE: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0

2008-08-11 Thread Andrew Hotlab

No improvement. I've just tried the 7.0-STABLE-200807-amd64 snapshot, that 
behaves like the 7.0-RELEASE, stopping at the same step.



 Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:24:18 -0700
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 CC: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: Areca ARC-1120 on FreeBSD 7.0
 
 On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:54:41PM +, Andrew Hotlab wrote:
 Hi to all. I've finally convinced my IT manager to replace a MSFT Windows 
 Server Virtual Server host with a
 FreeBSD 7 jail host. Obviously, before proposing this change I checked that 
 our hardware was supported by
 the FreeBSD platform, but as soon as I boot the FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE/amd64 
 CD-ROM the systems hangs!
 
 Do you see any improvement using a 7.0-STABLE snapshot?
 
 ftp://ftp4.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/200808/
 
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 | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com |
 | Parodius Networking   http://www.parodius.com/ |
 | UNIX Systems Administrator  Mountain View, CA, USA |
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