[9.0 RC1] Unable to build Image Magik and glib-20

2011-11-11 Thread David Marec

hi mates,

I get build-failures  while i try to update the following ports, with 
the help of portmaster:


* devel/glib20

config.status: executing glib/glibconfig.h commands
config.status: executing chmod-scripts commands
===  Building for glib-2.28.8_2
make  all-recursive
make: illegal option -- -
usage: make [-BPSXeiknpqrstv] [-C directory] [-D variable]
[-d flags] [-E variable] [-f makefile] [-I directory]
[-j max_jobs] [-m directory] [-V variable]
[variable=value] [target ...]
gmake: *** [all] Erreur 2
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/glib20.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/glib20.

=== make failed for devel/glib20
=== Aborting update
---

*graphics/ImageMagik

===  Building for ImageMagick-6.7.3.4
/bin/sh ./config/mkinstalldirs . ltdl/
cp ./ltdl/argz_.h ltdl/argz.h-t
mv ltdl/argz.h-t ltdl/argz.h
make  all-am
make: illegal option -- -
usage: make [-BPSXeiknpqrstv] [-C directory] [-D variable]
[-d flags] [-E variable] [-f makefile] [-I directory]
[-j max_jobs] [-m directory] [-V variable]
[variable=value] [target ...]
gmake: *** [all] Erreur 2
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/ImageMagick.

=== make failed for graphics/ImageMagick
=== Aborting update

=== Update for graphics/ImageMagick failed
=== Aborting update





'Sounds like there is something missing or outdated in ports/Mk ?


Thanks in advance.

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Re: Recent ports removal

2011-11-11 Thread Dmitry Marakasov
* Martin Wilke (m...@freebsd.org) wrote:

  They have been deprecated for a while and noone said anything about those, 
  that
  is the purpose of the DEPRECATED status. The not used anymore mean not 
  used in
  Why should we go through it again and again? If it's not broken, it's
  useable, you may not remove it, period.
 
  the portstree (ie no more depended on).
  Most of the portstree is leaf ports, now what?
 
  If someone really needs it, he can:
  What we need is to not have to do extra work and to not have extra noise
  on the maillist because someone does unneeded things. I really don't
  want to call that vandalism.
 
 You can't only put in u have also to put out.

Why don't we take out Gnome and KDE then? I don't use it.

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mysql-gui-tools

2011-11-11 Thread Benny Goemans
Hi,

I've noticed that the mysql-gui-tools port has been removed. A few months ago 
I had found a way to fix the build (in fact, change one line in an include 
file somewhere) but was unsure if it would work with other mysql versions than 
the one I'm using.
Is it possible to bring back the port so I can submit that change so that at 
least some people can use it again? 

Kind regards,

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Re: Recent ports removal

2011-11-11 Thread David Marec

Le 11.11.2011 11:07, Dmitry Marakasov a écrit :


Why don't we take out Gnome and KDE then? I don't use it.


Cause,  there is  still guys that are ready to maintain them, and, 
futhermore, some stuff in the ports tree that depend on them ?



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Re: mysql-gui-tools

2011-11-11 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hi,

On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Benny Goemans
benny.goem...@belgacom.net wrote:
 Hi,

 I've noticed that the mysql-gui-tools port has been removed. A few months ago
 I had found a way to fix the build (in fact, change one line in an include
 file somewhere) but was unsure if it would work with other mysql versions than
 the one I'm using.
 Is it possible to bring back the port so I can submit that change so that at
 least some people can use it again?

It doesn't look like the Porter's Handbook has a section on
re-animating dead ports.
But you could always submit it as a new port (with your fix included):
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/porting-submitting.html

I guess that would also make you the new port maintainer.
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Re: Recent ports removal

2011-11-11 Thread Jerry
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:07:08 +0400
Dmitry Marakasov articulated:

 * Martin Wilke (m...@freebsd.org) wrote:
 
   They have been deprecated for a while and noone said anything
   about those, that is the purpose of the DEPRECATED status. The
   not used anymore mean not used in
   Why should we go through it again and again? If it's not broken,
   it's useable, you may not remove it, period.
  
   the portstree (ie no more depended on).
   Most of the portstree is leaf ports, now what?
  
   If someone really needs it, he can:
   What we need is to not have to do extra work and to not have
   extra noise on the maillist because someone does unneeded things.
   I really don't want to call that vandalism.
  
  You can't only put in u have also to put out.
 
 Why don't we take out Gnome and KDE then? I don't use it.

That reality might come sooner than you think but for an entirely
different reason.

http://www.technograte.com/2011/05/18/gnome-to-drop-support-for-bsd-solaris-unix/

http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/gnome-to-drop-support-for-bsd-solaris-unix/

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Re: Recent ports removal

2011-11-11 Thread Chris Rees
On 11 November 2011 13:09, Jerry je...@seibercom.net wrote:
 On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:07:08 +0400
 Dmitry Marakasov articulated:

 * Martin Wilke (m...@freebsd.org) wrote:

   They have been deprecated for a while and noone said anything
   about those, that is the purpose of the DEPRECATED status. The
   not used anymore mean not used in
   Why should we go through it again and again? If it's not broken,
   it's useable, you may not remove it, period.
  
   the portstree (ie no more depended on).
   Most of the portstree is leaf ports, now what?
  
   If someone really needs it, he can:
   What we need is to not have to do extra work and to not have
   extra noise on the maillist because someone does unneeded things.
   I really don't want to call that vandalism.
  
  You can't only put in u have also to put out.

 Why don't we take out Gnome and KDE then? I don't use it.

 That reality might come sooner than you think but for an entirely
 different reason.

 http://www.technograte.com/2011/05/18/gnome-to-drop-support-for-bsd-solaris-unix/

 http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/05/gnome-to-drop-support-for-bsd-solaris-unix/


Hm.

The real problem of course is that although addport is written in
Perl, rmport is written in sh; thus making it much more convenient to
use on a machine without Perl.

Possible solutions:

- Reimport Perl to base
- Rewrite addport to sh (though that would undo a lot of recent work :/)
- Rewrite rmport in perl?

This way we could make a better equilibrium -- a committer looking to
fiddle a category Makefile would no longer be forced to choose between
installing Perl and removing a port, which would remove the incentive
to remove rather than add.

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Re: Recent ports removal

2011-11-11 Thread Stanislav Sedov
On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 14:07:08 +0400
Dmitry Marakasov amd...@amdmi3.ru mentioned:

 * Martin Wilke (m...@freebsd.org) wrote:
 
   They have been deprecated for a while and noone said anything about 
   those, that
   is the purpose of the DEPRECATED status. The not used anymore mean not 
   used in
   Why should we go through it again and again? If it's not broken, it's
   useable, you may not remove it, period.
  
   the portstree (ie no more depended on).
   Most of the portstree is leaf ports, now what?
  
   If someone really needs it, he can:
   What we need is to not have to do extra work and to not have extra noise
   on the maillist because someone does unneeded things. I really don't
   want to call that vandalism.
  
  You can't only put in u have also to put out.
 
 Why don't we take out Gnome and KDE then? I don't use it.
 

Because portmgr@ is using it?  There're numerous cases when unmaintained, buggy,
vulnerable and plainly dangerous stuff stays in tree because someone in portmgr
gang likes it when other applications not used by them being removed without
prior discussion notice.  Because your opinion doesn't matter.  Neither is mine.
Like in old good USSR times...

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Re: Recent ports removal

2011-11-11 Thread Mark Linimon
 Why don't we take out Gnome and KDE then? I don't use it.

It's this kind of comment that is souring me on the FreeBSD community.

Can't we just disagree politely anymore?

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Re: Recent ports removal

2011-11-11 Thread Mark Linimon
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 12:40:12PM -0800, Stanislav Sedov wrote:
 Because portmgr@ is using it?  There're numerous cases when unmaintained, 
 buggy,
 vulnerable and plainly dangerous stuff stays in tree because someone in 
 portmgr
 gang likes it when other applications not used by them being removed without
 prior discussion notice.

There are always periodic emails, both to individual maintainers and
ports@, that summarize which ports are deprecated, expiring, and forbidden.
That's served as the best springboard for discussion I know how to do in an
automated fashion, for several years.  In many rounds of those emails I get
responses which result in ports being kept from the scrapheap.

I'm not aware of vulnerable things that stay in (other than gnats3, which
is still part of our infrastructure), and php52, which apparently is so
widely used that we must continue to support it despite our best effrots
to clean up the tree.  Which other ones are there?

From your email I'm sure you don't believe me, but we are attempting to
be objective about removing stale, broken, and dangerous code.  It's an
imperfect art and relies on judgement calls.

Surely we can come up with a better alternative than just leave ports
in forever.  I don't think this serves our users well.

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Re: Recent ports removal

2011-11-11 Thread Doug Barton
On 11/10/2011 03:06, Dmitry Marakasov wrote:
 * Baptiste Daroussin (b...@freebsd.org) wrote:

 They have been deprecated for a while and noone said anything about those, 
 that
 is the purpose of the DEPRECATED status. The not used anymore mean not 
 used in
 
 Why should we go through it again and again? If it's not broken, it's
 useable, you may not remove it, period. 

Yes, we realize that you, and a small minority of other interested
parties, have this belief in spite of endless repetition of the
reasoning, by the people who do the actual work to keep the ports tree
functional, as to why your desire to keep every port is not a workable
solution.

I personally have handled the removal of hundreds of broken and
vulnerable ports over the last several months. A very small percentage
(2% perhaps?) were ports that people cared enough to fix, and the fact
that someone fixed them is a great outcome. OTOH, in several cases after
contacting the port's maintainer I was told that yes indeed, they would
like the port removed, but were unsure of how to go about it.

The removed ports are in the CVS attic where any interested party can
retrieve and fix them. However the fact that no one has made a peep
about them is a pretty strong indication that they were simply dead
weight that we were carrying for no good reason.


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Re: Recent ports removal

2011-11-11 Thread Xin LI
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(I just picked one message to do a reply-all, not specific to any one
single message but all of them).

Technically speaking the current approach's problem is that the user
might have no chance of seeing it before the port is removed.  By its
nature, deprecated ports tends not to be updated for long time, port
tools like portmaster, portupgrade will not even see it because no
PORTREVISION bump happen.  For users who install from packages, there
is no deprecation message at all, and it's pretty likely that these
user when updating to a new version suddenly find the software missing.

I think if we want to deprecate ports in a constant manner, we need to
do a better job of letting the user (or let's say potential
contributor) know it.  My own server in China have went offline for a
few months before my friend rebuild and install one for me, and I
suddenly noticed that some of previous ports maintained by someone
else have been marked as DEPRECATED because upstream gone.

Think about this: FreeBSD is not just a product, it's also a project
and a community.  It's never an overkill to do more things to keep
developers, contributors and potential contributors happy and continue
to contribute.  Making them happy is not do whatever they want us to
do but to think more about what they would think, and how we can
improve.

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Re: Recent ports removal

2011-11-11 Thread Doug Barton
On 11/11/2011 14:15, Xin LI wrote:
 (I just picked one message to do a reply-all, not specific to any one
 single message but all of them).
 
 Technically speaking the current approach's problem is that the user
 might have no chance of seeing it before the port is removed. 

That's going to be true no matter what approach we use, or what time
period we choose. There are plenty of boxes that just sit there happily
doing their work without being updated. If that's the case, then the
fact that a port is deprecated or removed isn't really a problem for
them. Vulnerable ports are a different issue, but we have portaudit for
that.

 By its
 nature, deprecated ports tends not to be updated for long time, port
 tools like portmaster, portupgrade will not even see it because no
 PORTREVISION bump happen. 

portmaster -L will warn you about ports marked
DEPRECATED/FORBIDDEN/IGNORE/BROKEN if you run it against an updated
ports tree. One area where we actually can improve here is to also put
this information in the INDEX. I have an idea for that, just haven't
been able to put the time into making it happen.

 For users who install from packages, there
 is no deprecation message at all, and it's pretty likely that these
 user when updating to a new version suddenly find the software missing.

I would think that the lack of a package would be a pretty clear message
that there is an issue that needs attention, wouldn't you? :) Perhaps we
need to rethink the policy on whether packages should be created for
deprecated ports.

 I think if we want to deprecate ports in a constant manner, we need to
 do a better job of letting the user (or let's say potential
 contributor) know it. 

I think you're right that we can do more, so what is your proposal?


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Re: mysql-gui-tools

2011-11-11 Thread Eitan Adler
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen tin...@gmail.com wrote:
 It doesn't look like the Porter's Handbook has a section on
 re-animating dead ports.

Not yet.

 But you could always submit it as a new port (with your fix included):

This is the important part. You need to fix the reason it was removed
(perhaps by becoming the upstream maintainer as well)
FWIW I'd prefer a patch against the old version instead of a shar
like a new port. I don't know how other committers feel about this.

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/porting-submitting.html

If you need help just ask on this list.

 I guess that would also make you the new port maintainer.

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Re-adding a port [was: Re: mysql-gui-tools]

2011-11-11 Thread Mark Linimon
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 01:04:41PM +0100, Benny Goemans wrote:
 Is it possible to bring back the port so I can submit that change so that at 
 least some people can use it again? 

I've just added a section to our Committer's Guide, since it seems
something that many people don't understand how to do:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/ports.html#AEN1347

I'd be glad to get reactions/corrections.

mcl
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Re: Re-adding a port [was: Re: mysql-gui-tools]

2011-11-11 Thread Warren Block

On Fri, 11 Nov 2011, Mark Linimon wrote:


On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 01:04:41PM +0100, Benny Goemans wrote:

Is it possible to bring back the port so I can submit that change so that at
least some people can use it again?


I've just added a section to our Committer's Guide, since it seems
something that many people don't understand how to do:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/ports.html#AEN1347

I'd be glad to get reactions/corrections.


Re-adding kind of makes my teeth hurt.  Suggested patch attached.Index: article.sgml
===
RCS file: 
/home/dcvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/article.sgml,v
retrieving revision 1.305
diff -u -r1.305 article.sgml
--- article.sgml11 Nov 2011 23:51:12 -  1.305
+++ article.sgml12 Nov 2011 04:26:09 -
@@ -2608,11 +2608,11 @@
   /qandadiv
 
   qandadiv
-   titleRe-adding a Deleted Port/title
+   titleRecovering a Deleted Port/title
 
qandaentry
  question
-   paraHow do I re-add a deleted port?/para
+   paraHow do I bring back a deleted port?/para
  /question
 
  answer
@@ -2624,7 +2624,7 @@
  and then navigate to
  
replaceablecategory/replaceable/replaceableportname/replaceable/filenameAttic/filename/
 .
  Pick a date that is before the removal but after the last true
-  commit./para
+ commit./para
   /step
 
   step
@@ -2633,7 +2633,7 @@
   /step
 
   step
-   paraMake whatever changes needed to make the port
+   paraMake whatever changes are needed to make the port
  work again.  (If it was deleted due to no more distfiles
  being available, you will need to volunteer to become the
  upstream maintainer yourself and host the distfiles, or
@@ -2641,11 +2641,11 @@
   /step
 
   step
-   paraRe-add the port via commandcvs commit/command./para
+   paraAdd the port via commandcvs commit/command./para
   /step
 
  step
-   paraRe-add the makevarSUBDIR/makevar listing of the port
+   paraAdd the makevarSUBDIR/makevar listing of the port
  in the parent directory filenameMakefile/filename./para
  /step
 
@@ -2656,7 +2656,7 @@
 
  step
paraIf the port had an entry in
- filenameports/LEGAL/filename, re-add that./para
+ filenameports/LEGAL/filename, add that./para
  /step
/procedure
  /answer
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Re: Re-adding a port [was: Re: mysql-gui-tools]

2011-11-11 Thread Doug Barton
On 11/11/2011 20:28, Warren Block wrote:
 On Fri, 11 Nov 2011, Mark Linimon wrote:
 
 On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 01:04:41PM +0100, Benny Goemans wrote:
 Is it possible to bring back the port so I can submit that change so
 that at
 least some people can use it again?

 I've just added a section to our Committer's Guide, since it seems
 something that many people don't understand how to do:

 http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/committers-guide/ports.html#AEN1347


 I'd be glad to get reactions/corrections.
 
 Re-adding kind of makes my teeth hurt.  Suggested patch attached.

Given the context, I think re-adding fits.



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emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod fails on HEAD

2011-11-11 Thread Doug Barton
I'm running r227447 and get the following:

cc -O2 -pipe -DRT_OS_FREEBSD -DIN_RING0 -DIN_RT_R0 -DIN_SUP_R0 -DVBOX
-DRT_WITH_VBOX -w -DVBOX_WITH_HARDENING -DVBOX_WITH_64_BITS_GUESTS
-DRT_ARCH_AMD64 -fno-strict-aliasing -Werror -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE
-nostdinc  -Iinclude -I. -Ir0drv -I. -I@ -I@/contrib/altq
-finline-limit=8000 --param inline-unit-growth=100 --param
large-function-growth=1000 -fno-common  -fno-omit-frame-pointer
-mno-sse -mcmodel=kernel -mno-red-zone -mno-mmx -msoft-float
-fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -ffreestanding -fstack-protector
-std=iso9899:1999 -fstack-protector -Wall -Wredundant-decls
-Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes  -Wmissing-prototypes
-Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual  -Wundef -Wno-pointer-sign
-fformat-extensions  -Wmissing-include-dirs -fdiagnostics-show-option -c
/usr/local/tmp/frontier/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod/work/VirtualBox-4.0.12_OSE/out/freebsd.amd64/debug/bin/src/vboxdrv/freebsd/SUPDrv-freebsd.c
/usr/local/tmp/frontier/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod/work/VirtualBox-4.0.12_OSE/out/freebsd.amd64/debug/bin/src/vboxdrv/freebsd/SUPDrv-freebsd.c:104:
error: 'D_PSEUDO' undeclared here (not in a function)
*** Error code 1

Stop in
/usr/local/tmp/frontier/ports/emulators/virtualbox-ose-kmod/work/VirtualBox-4.0.12_OSE/out/freebsd.amd64/debug/bin/src/vboxdrv.
*** Error code 1


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