Re: graphviz -- can't fetch

2013-03-16 Thread Bernt Hansson

2013-03-16 01:09, Ronald F. Guilmette skrev:


In message <44k3p8pa1t@lowell-desk.lan>,
Lowell Gilbert  wrote:


"Ronald F. Guilmette"  writes:


What gives?  Where is the missing .gz file?


% portupgrade graphics/graphviz
...
===>  Found saved configuration for graphviz-2.30.1
=> graphviz-2.30.1.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
=> Attempting to fetch http://www.graphviz.org/pub/graphviz/ARCHIVE/graphviz

-2.30.1.tar.gz

fetch: http://www.graphviz.org/pub/graphviz/ARCHIVE/graphviz-2.30.1.tar.gz:

Moved Temporarily

=> Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/gra

phviz-2.30.1.tar.gz

fetch:
ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/graphviz-2.30.1.tar.gz:
File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
=> Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this
=> port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again.
*** [do-fetch] Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz.
*** [build] Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz.
** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa
/tmp/portupgrade20130314-39851-1llt20w-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade
UPGRADE_PORT=graphviz-2.30.0 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=2.30.0 make
** Fix the problem and try again.
** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
 ! graphics/graphviz (graphviz-2.30.0)   (fetch error)


Try the first mastersite again; I just fetched from there.


By "the first master site" I assume you mean by the first URL, i.e.:

   http://www.graphviz.org/pub/graphviz/ARCHIVE/graphviz-2.30.1.tar.gz

Well, I just did try that and I am still getting the same result.  In fact,
it appears to me that the entire web site of "www.graphviz.org" is most
seriously and entirely baroque I mean busted, kaput, blewie, snafued,
hosed in a major way.

Please look for yourself.

I've tried looking at the home page on that site and every version of the
URL for the (alleged) .gz file between the full path of the .gz file and
the home page of the web site, and all of these display as nothing but
a blank page.  I've reproduced this is both FireFox and Opera.

I think that _somebody_ has really and totally effed up that site.

But anyway, meanwhile, back here on earth, forget about THAT for a
second... How come a copy of the dist file is *also* not available
(still) from ftp.FreeBSD.org ??

I'm filing a PR.  This is really broke.

(I wouldn't even care, but graphviz is apparently a dependency of something
else I need to build.  Gr.)


I built graphviz on 2013-03-15 with no errors and today 2013-03-16 08:24
looks like this

===>  Found saved configuration for graphviz-2.30.1
=> graphviz-2.30.1.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
=> Attempting to fetch 
http://www.graphviz.org/pub/graphviz/ARCHIVE/graphviz-2.30.1.tar.gz

graphviz-2.30.1.tar.gz 7% of   22 MB  478 kBps
^C
fetch: transfer interrupted

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How can I switch compiler from clang to gcc46?

2013-03-16 Thread Beeblebrox
I need to compile a source not in the ports tree. The source needs to use the
gcc compiler (I have lang gcc (46) installed). Sourec make file complains it
cannot find gcc46.

To test, I placed in my environment:
setenv CC gcc46
setenv CXX g++46
setenv CPP cpp46

When I do "cc -v" I still get clang output and not gcc46. What am I doing
wrong here?



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Re: How can I switch compiler from clang to gcc46?

2013-03-16 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 16/03/2013 13:01, Beeblebrox wrote:
> I need to compile a source not in the ports tree. The source needs to use the
> gcc compiler (I have lang gcc (46) installed). Sourec make file complains it
> cannot find gcc46.

gcc46 will be /usr/local/bin/gcc46 -- it could be that /usr/local/bin
isn't on the path that Makefile searches.

> To test, I placed in my environment:
> setenv CC gcc46
> setenv CXX g++46
> setenv CPP cpp46

Try using the fully qualified path in those settings:

setenv CC /usr/local/bin/gcc46
setenv CXX /usr/local/bin/g++46
setenv CPP /usr/local/bin/cpp46

(Sanity check that -- I don't have gcc46 installed, so cannot confirm
those are the correct paths.)

> When I do "cc -v" I still get clang output and not gcc46. What am I doing
> wrong here?

Well, yes.  What did you expect?  Typing 'cc' at the shell prompt will
almost certainly run /usr/bin/cc and that's going to be Clang on recent
versions of FreeBSD.  What you need to do is persuade your Makefile to
run a different compiler, somewhere else in the filesystem.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: How can I switch compiler from clang to gcc46?

2013-03-16 Thread Beeblebrox
I changed env as proposed, to full path (path is correct, btw)
CC=/usr/local/bin/gcc46
CXX=/usr/local/bin/g++46
CPP=/usr/local/bin/cpp46
I also placed same in the Makefile of 3rd party source.

> you need to .. persuade your Makefile to run a different compiler.
That's exactly what I want to do, but I'm not getting there.
Any other ideas? Should I start tearing down $PATH?



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Re: How can I switch compiler from clang to gcc46?

2013-03-16 Thread Florent Peterschmitt
If you put these environment variables into make.conf ?

Le 16/03/2013 13:53, Beeblebrox a écrit :
> I changed env as proposed, to full path (path is correct, btw)
> CC=/usr/local/bin/gcc46
> CXX=/usr/local/bin/g++46
> CPP=/usr/local/bin/cpp46
> I also placed same in the Makefile of 3rd party source.
> 
>> you need to .. persuade your Makefile to run a different compiler.
> That's exactly what I want to do, but I'm not getting there.
> Any other ideas? Should I start tearing down $PATH?
> 
> 
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Re: How can I switch compiler from clang to gcc46?

2013-03-16 Thread Eitan Adler
On 16 March 2013 09:01, Beeblebrox  wrote:
> I need to compile a source not in the ports tree. The source needs to use the
> gcc compiler (I have lang gcc (46) installed). Sourec make file complains it
> cannot find gcc46.
>
> To test, I placed in my environment:
> setenv CC gcc46
> setenv CXX g++46
> setenv CPP cpp46
>
> When I do "cc -v" I still get clang output and not gcc46. What am I doing
> wrong here?

cc is a program.  If you want to use the environment variables try
using "$CC -v".  If you want help to make your makefile to use $CC
instead of 'cc' you will need to provide the Makefile as an attachment
so we can see what it is doing.

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Re: How can I switch compiler from clang to gcc46?

2013-03-16 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 10:04:41 -0400
Eitan Adler  wrote:

> On 16 March 2013 09:01, Beeblebrox  wrote:
> > I need to compile a source not in the ports tree. The source needs
> > to use the gcc compiler (I have lang gcc (46) installed). Sourec
> > make file complains it cannot find gcc46.
> >
> > To test, I placed in my environment:
> > setenv CC gcc46
> > setenv CXX g++46
> > setenv CPP cpp46
> >
> > When I do "cc -v" I still get clang output and not gcc46. What am I
> > doing wrong here?
> 
> cc is a program.  If you want to use the environment variables try
> using "$CC -v".  If you want help to make your makefile to use $CC
> instead of 'cc' you will need to provide the Makefile as an attachment
> so we can see what it is doing.
> 

why not set this as an alias? Of course, with the full path.

Erich
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Re: How can I switch compiler from clang to gcc46?

2013-03-16 Thread Beeblebrox
Hi,
I tried both "CC= /usr/local/bin/gcc46" and "export CC=
/usr/local/bin/gcc46", but no good.

Per request, enclosing the default Makefile; I'm trying to compile OpenWRT
on native FreeBSD.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bxs_eepbMt6qV3Y3bDFtbnBUZFk/edit?usp=sharing

The Makefile is unable to locate these either (but they are installed)
Please install ncurses. (Missing libncurses.so or ncurses.h)
Please install zlib. (Missing libz.so or zlib.h)
from devel/ncurses-devel: /usr/local/include/ncurses/ncurses.h
from archivers/lzlib: /usr/local/lib/compat/libz.so.4

Previously the compile broke at e2fsprogs and I wanted to test whether it
has been fixed. OpenWRT is starting to support NetBSD compile environment,
so the Makefile should be compatible... Source also has a BSDmakefile, with
only this in it:
world ${.TARGETS}:
@gmake $@

Thanks and regards.



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Re: How can I switch compiler from clang to gcc46?

2013-03-16 Thread Beeblebrox
If interested, OpenWRT build requirements:
http://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/buildroot.exigence

My work so far:
https://forum.openwrt.org/viewtopic.php?pid=194727#p194727



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Re: How can I switch compiler from clang to gcc46?

2013-03-16 Thread Beeblebrox
@ Erich: The alias setting is the only thing that has worked so far in shell
environment - too bad it did no good for the Makefile's dependents test
(which is what I really want to get done).

Neither of these gave correct output at "cc -v" nor "CC -v"
setenv CC /usr/local/bin/gcc46
setenv cc /usr/local/bin/gcc46




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Re: How can I switch compiler from clang to gcc46?

2013-03-16 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 07:37:38 -0700 (PDT)
Beeblebrox  wrote:

> @ Erich: The alias setting is the only thing that has worked so far
> in shell environment - too bad it did no good for the Makefile's
> dependents test (which is what I really want to get done).
> 
this is also my experience. We use a different structure in our own
make files. Ok, it is much more work to get them done. But - the big
but here - they behave then as you would expect it.

I got this idea with the alias once after I ran into the same problem
as you.

Erich
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Re: How can I switch compiler from clang to gcc46?

2013-03-16 Thread Beeblebrox
@David: Ooops, forgot that bit. My shell also csh. Info for "un-modified"
environment (no extra setenv or alias)
uname  -> 10.0-CURRENT #1 r248212, amd64
The extras you asked for:
$which make  ->  /usr/bin/make
$ make -V CC  ->  cc
$ echo $CC  ->  CC: Undefined variable.
$ setenv CC /usr/local/bin/gcc46 
$ echo $CC  ->  /usr/local/bin/gcc46
$ make -V CC  ->  /usr/local/bin/gcc46
$ unsetenv CC 
$ echo $CC  ->  CC: Undefined variable.
$ make -V CC  ->  cc
$ make CC=/usr/local/bin/gcc46 -V CC  ->  /usr/local/bin/gcc46

Same output / results as yours...
Regards.



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Re: How can I switch compiler from clang to gcc46?

2013-03-16 Thread Beeblebrox
I just remembered: The last time I tried to compile this, I was on 9-STABLE
as I recall and I did not have any of the specific problems  I am running
into now. Everything went much more smoothly back then.



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Re: CFT mplayer and mencoder snapshot

2013-03-16 Thread Waitman Gobble
Thomas Zander  wrote ..
> On 10 March 2013 20:51, Thomas Zander  wrote:
> 
> > I have prepared a recent snapshot of mplayer and mencoder. The port
> > itself has changed quite a bit, therefore testing and reporting (and
> > patches if necessary) are greatly appreciated.
> > The port tarballs can be found here:
> > https://bsdistfiles.googlecode.com/files/m20130310.tar.xz
> 
> No problems? Anyone?

Hello Thomas,

Both of the ports built without any issue.

selected mencoder options:
BLURAY, CDIO, CDPARANOIA, FAAC, GIF, IPV6, LIVEMEDIA, MAD, NAS, OCFLAGS, 
PULSEAUDIO, RTCPU, THEORA, VPX, WIN32, X264, XVID

selected mplayer options:
BLURAY, CACA, ESOUND, GUI, IPV6, LIVEMEDIA, MAD, NAS, OCFLAGS, OPENGL, 
PULSEAUDIO, RTCPU, SKINS, WIN32, X11, X11DGA, X11VM, XINERAMA, XVIDE

[1056] > uname -a
FreeBSD dx.burplex.com 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #0 r248165: Mon Mar 11 
18:20:30 PDT 2013 r...@dx.burplex.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/FURAHA  amd64

Thank you,

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Re: How can I switch compiler from clang to gcc46?

2013-03-16 Thread Chris Rees
On 16 March 2013 15:22, Beeblebrox  wrote:
> I just remembered: The last time I tried to compile this, I was on 9-STABLE
> as I recall and I did not have any of the specific problems  I am running
> into now. Everything went much more smoothly back then.

The way I've always used gcc to compile ports is to use the USE_GCC=any flag.

Don't put that unconditionally in make.conf however, or you will break
everything because of circular dependencies; either use something
like:

.if ${.CURDIR:M*/category/port}
USE_GCC=any
.endif

or use it on the command line.

Don't forget to make clean first.

Chris
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FreeBSD Port: x11-themes/gtk-equinox-engine

2013-03-16 Thread Marco Dola
Hi there,
I had this error when I tried to install x11-themes/gtk-equinox-engine:

In file included from ./src/animation.c:31:0:
/usr/include/glib-2.0/glib/gtimer.h:28:2: error: #error "Only  can
be included directly."

So I replaced   with  and it works.
Tnx
Marco
P.S.
You will find my patch attached


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Re: How can I switch compiler from clang to gcc46?

2013-03-16 Thread Beeblebrox
Sorry, not working - I know it normally would.

make -DUSE_GCC=any
Build dependency: Please install the GNU C Compiler (gcc).
Build dependency: Please install the GNU C++ Compiler (g++).
Build dependency: Please install ncurses. (Missing libncurses.so or
ncurses.h)
Build dependency: Please install zlib. (Missing libz.so or zlib.h)




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Re: How can I switch compiler from clang to gcc46?

2013-03-16 Thread Beeblebrox
Neither works, both give same fail:
make -USE_GCC=any
make -DUSE_GCC=any



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Re: How can I switch compiler from clang to gcc46?

2013-03-16 Thread Chris Rees
On 16 March 2013 16:33, Beeblebrox  wrote:
> Neither works, both give same fail:
> make -USE_GCC=any
> make -DUSE_GCC=any

Don't use -D; Make options are not the same as cc.

Try:

make USE_GCC=any

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pkg-plist error

2013-03-16 Thread Gary J. Hayers
I am trying to write a port, however when I install the port I get an 
error telling me that...


Correct pkg-plist sequence to create group(s) and user(s)

This does not seem to be right, what is the correct way to nullify this?

Many thanks
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Re: pkg-plist error

2013-03-16 Thread Chris Rees
On 16 March 2013 16:53, Gary J. Hayers  wrote:
> I am trying to write a port, however when I install the port I get an error
> telling me that...
>
> Correct pkg-plist sequence to create group(s) and user(s)
>
> This does not seem to be right, what is the correct way to nullify this?

Nope, it's not a problem at all.  It always happens if GROUPS or USERS
is defined in the Makefile (cf bsd.port.mk line 4222).

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Re: graphviz -- can't fetch

2013-03-16 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 12:26 AM, Bernt Hansson  wrote:

> 2013-03-16 01:09, Ronald F. Guilmette skrev:
>
>>
>> In message <44k3p8pa1t.fsf@lowell-desk.**lan>,
>> Lowell Gilbert 
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>>  "Ronald F. Guilmette"  writes:
>>>
>>>  What gives?  Where is the missing .gz file?


 % portupgrade graphics/graphviz
 ...
 ===>  Found saved configuration for graphviz-2.30.1
 => graphviz-2.30.1.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in
 /usr/ports/distfiles/.
 => Attempting to fetch http://www.graphviz.org/pub/**
 graphviz/ARCHIVE/graphviz

>>> -2.30.1.tar.gz
>>>
 fetch: http://www.graphviz.org/pub/**graphviz/ARCHIVE/graphviz-2.**
 30.1.tar.gz
 :

>>> Moved Temporarily
>>>
 => Attempting to fetch ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/**
 FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/gra

>>> phviz-2.30.1.tar.gz
>>>
 fetch:
 ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/**FreeBSD/ports/distfiles/**
 graphviz-2.30.1.tar.gz
 :
 File unavailable (e.g., file not found, no access)
 => Couldn't fetch it - please try to retrieve this
 => port manually into /usr/ports/distfiles/ and try again.
 *** [do-fetch] Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz.
 *** [build] Error code 1

 Stop in /usr/ports/graphics/graphviz.
 ** Command failed [exit code 1]: /usr/bin/script -qa
 /tmp/portupgrade20130314-**39851-1llt20w-0 env UPGRADE_TOOL=portupgrade
 UPGRADE_PORT=graphviz-2.30.0 UPGRADE_PORT_VER=2.30.0 make
 ** Fix the problem and try again.
 ** Listing the failed packages (-:ignored / *:skipped / !:failed)
  ! graphics/graphviz (graphviz-2.30.0)   (fetch error)

>>>
>>> Try the first mastersite again; I just fetched from there.
>>>
>>
>> By "the first master site" I assume you mean by the first URL, i.e.:
>>
>>http://www.graphviz.org/pub/**graphviz/ARCHIVE/graphviz-2.**
>> 30.1.tar.gz
>>
>> Well, I just did try that and I am still getting the same result.  In
>> fact,
>> it appears to me that the entire web site of "www.graphviz.org" is most
>> seriously and entirely baroque I mean busted, kaput, blewie, snafued,
>> hosed in a major way.
>>
>> Please look for yourself.
>>
>> I've tried looking at the home page on that site and every version of the
>> URL for the (alleged) .gz file between the full path of the .gz file and
>> the home page of the web site, and all of these display as nothing but
>> a blank page.  I've reproduced this is both FireFox and Opera.
>>
>> I think that _somebody_ has really and totally effed up that site.
>>
>> But anyway, meanwhile, back here on earth, forget about THAT for a
>> second... How come a copy of the dist file is *also* not available
>> (still) from ftp.FreeBSD.org ??
>>
>> I'm filing a PR.  This is really broke.
>>
>> (I wouldn't even care, but graphviz is apparently a dependency of
>> something
>> else I need to build.  Gr.)
>>
>
> I built graphviz on 2013-03-15 with no errors and today 2013-03-16 08:24
> looks like this
>
> ===>  Found saved configuration for graphviz-2.30.1
> => graphviz-2.30.1.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/.
> => Attempting to fetch http://www.graphviz.org/pub/**
> graphviz/ARCHIVE/graphviz-2.**30.1.tar.gz
> graphviz-2.30.1.tar.gz 7% of   22 MB  478 kBps
> ^C
> fetch: transfer interrupted
>
>
FWIW, I have fetched the distfile repeatedly over the  past three days on a
variety of systems with no problems at all. Slow at between 600 and 800
kBps with my very well connected work system at the high end and my home
system at the low end. I am also getting it from www.graphviz.org.

Sounds like some sort of network issue at your location, though it could
also have been a transitive error at the source that most people, including
myself) never happened to hit.
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Re: graphviz -- can't fetch

2013-03-16 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"Ronald F. Guilmette"  writes:

> Well, I just did try that and I am still getting the same result.  In fact,
> it appears to me that the entire web site of "www.graphviz.org" is most
> seriously and entirely baroque I mean busted, kaput, blewie, snafued,
> hosed in a major way.
>
> Please look for yourself.

Well, I have, but I haven't seen the problem.

> But anyway, meanwhile, back here on earth, forget about THAT for a
> second... How come a copy of the dist file is *also* not available
> (still) from ftp.FreeBSD.org ??
>
> I'm filing a PR.  This is really broke.

I suspect that it's tied to the package building cluster problems. I'm
not sure who to ask directly, so a PR is the right approach.

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Re: pkg-plist error

2013-03-16 Thread Gary J. Hayers

On 16/03/2013 18:54, Chris Rees wrote:

On 16 March 2013 16:53, Gary J. Hayers  wrote:

I am trying to write a port, however when I install the port I get an error
telling me that...

Correct pkg-plist sequence to create group(s) and user(s)

This does not seem to be right, what is the correct way to nullify this?


Nope, it's not a problem at all.  It always happens if GROUPS or USERS
is defined in the Makefile (cf bsd.port.mk line 4222).

Chris


Ok thanks Chris.


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Re: is it a good idea to overwrite GCC_DEFAULT_VERSION= in Mk/bsd.gcc.mk?

2013-03-16 Thread Bryan Drewery
On 2/11/2013 9:21 AM, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> Hi Anton,
> 
> On Thu, 7 Feb 2013, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
>> Right now the default GCC is GCC_DEFAULT_VERSION=4.6
>> For some time lang/gcc46 doesn't build for me on ia64.
>> However, lang/gcc47 and lang/gcc48 do.
>>
>> There are quite a few ports which I cannot update
>> because they depend on lang/gcc46 via USE_FORTRAN=yes.
>>
>> So I wonder if there are any side effects or unexpected
>> effects if I just change GCC_DEFAULT_VERSION= to e.g. 4.7?
> 
> this should work.  In my experience most ports that work with
> GCC 4.6 also should with GCC 4.7, and most have USE_GCC=4.6+
> anyway, so other users may well have built them with a later
> version aleady.

Hi Gerald,

I don't think this is working as expected. See also ports/177017 which I
believe is a bsd.gcc.mk issue and not a pkgng or portmaster issue. My
understanding is that this user want

When I change GCC_DEFAULT_VERSION to 4.7, it now depends on the gcc47
package, but still is using lang/gcc:

> $ make -C lang/p5-ExtUtils-F77 -V RUN_DEPENDS
> gcc47:/home/bryan/freebsd/ports/lang/gcc 
> /usr/local/bin/perl5.12.4:/home/bryan/freebsd/ports/lang/perl5.12

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Re: graphviz -- can't fetch

2013-03-16 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette

>FWIW, I have fetched the distfile repeatedly over the  past three days on a
>variety of systems with no problems at all. Slow at between 600 and 800
>kBps with my very well connected work system at the high end and my home
>system at the low end. I am also getting it from www.graphviz.org.
>
>Sounds like some sort of network issue at your location, though it could
>also have been a transitive error at the source that most people, including
>myself) never happened to hit.


It was indeed a transient DNS eror... *not* originating on my end.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=177011

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Re: graphviz -- can't fetch

2013-03-16 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette

In message <44mwu3rqxn@lowell-desk.lan>, you wrote:

>I suspect that it's tied to the package building cluster problems. I'm
>not sure who to ask directly, so a PR is the right approach.

For the enlightment of those not in the know (which includes myself)
please do elaborate.  What am "the package building cluster problems" ?
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Re: graphviz -- can't fetch

2013-03-16 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"Ronald F. Guilmette"  writes:

> In message <44mwu3rqxn@lowell-desk.lan>, you wrote:
>
>>I suspect that it's tied to the package building cluster problems. I'm
>>not sure who to ask directly, so a PR is the right approach.
>
> For the enlightment of those not in the know (which includes myself)
> please do elaborate.  What am "the package building cluster problems" ?

http://www.freebsd.org/news/2012-compromise.html

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Gnustep group

2013-03-16 Thread Chris Petrik
Looking at the current state of gnustep and I am wondering if any 
commiters would be interested in creating a gnustep group/team? as a lot 
of ports have no maintainer and would be nice if there was a ML and 
other means for gnustep ?


Chris
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Re: Gnustep group

2013-03-16 Thread Waitman Gobble
Chris Petrik  wrote ..
> Looking at the current state of gnustep and I am wondering if any 
> commiters would be interested in creating a gnustep group/team? as a lot 
> of ports have no maintainer and would be nice if there was a ML and 
> other means for gnustep ?
> 
> Chris
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Hi,

Sounds great. I'm not a committer but was looking at gnustep earlier today, 
have a need for a JBOS system and this could be good for a wall. It's an 
interesting coincidence I suppose.
I'll check out ports status. 

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