Re: pkg audit -F - insufficient privileges
ls -al /var/db/pkg|more total 137316 drwxr-x--x 1466 root wheel 42496 21 Okt 16:09 . drwxr-xr-x20 root wheel 1024 21 Okt 16:43 .. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: misc/jive deleted
On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 13:45:10 +1100 andrew clarke wrote: > At the risk of this developing into a flame war, I thought this was > curious: > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-ports-head/2016-August/126687.html > > Is this the first time a port has been deleted for being "offensive"? >From Jive description at wikipedia: *Jive, also known as the Jive Filter, is a novelty computer program that *converts plain English to a comic dialect known as "jive", a parody of *African American Vernacular English. Some versions of the filter were *adapted to parody other forms of English speech, such as valspeak, *cockney, geordie, Pig Latin, and even the Swedish Chef. The latter form *is sometimes known as the "Encheferator" or "Encheferizer". This family *of programs became quite popular in the late 1980s. So it's a parody of multiple english speechs. Also, mark it as offensive is subjective opinion. Perhaps who made the change could explain better. --- --- Eduardo Morras ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: misc/jive deleted
disclaimer: I wasn't the person who made the decision. This change became contentious after it was made; however, that discussion only occurred on internal mailing lists. The "pro" removal points: some of these terms are no longer acceptable in polite society, and far cross the line from humor to offensive. If FreeBSD is trying to be more inclusive, having this around isn't the way. The "anti" removal point: well, just don't install it, then. I fall firmly into the former camp, and for the reason stated. At least one of the terms could never possibly have been interpreted as humor in my native Texas. And particularly in Houston, Texas, where in the late 1970s the term was used in a police incident, in which the suspect later died. tl:dr; it's pretty difficult to offend me personally, but when I read that particular entry, I turned pale. mcl ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
FreeBSD ports you maintain which are out of date
Dear port maintainer, The portscout new distfile checker has detected that one or more of your ports appears to be out of date. Please take the opportunity to check each of the ports listed below, and if possible and appropriate, submit/commit an update. If any ports have already been updated, you can safely ignore the entry. You will not be e-mailed again for any of the port/version combinations below. Full details can be found at the following URL: http://portscout.freebsd.org/po...@freebsd.org.html Port| Current version | New version +-+ comms/lirc | 0.9.0 | 0.9.4c +-+ math/giacxcas | 1.2.2-57| 1.2.2-97 +-+ textproc/py-texttable | 0.8.4 | 0.8.6 +-+ If any of the above results are invalid, please check the following page for details on how to improve portscout's detection and selection of distfiles on a per-port basis: http://portscout.freebsd.org/info/portscout-portconfig.txt Thanks. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: misc/jive deleted
andrew clarke wrote: > Is this the first time a port has been deleted for being "offensive"? There used to be "offensive" (a term to be taken rather loosely in this case) fortune cookies, but they got kicked out somewhere in 9.X. That was the base system though; not the ports tree. Come to think of it, I'm quite (be it pleasantly) surprised to see that deskutils/hot-babe is still allowed. I'm still half waiting for someone with misguided delusions of moral superiority to delete that port, thinking it's their decision to make that FreeBSD must not enable people to display their system load as a cartoon woman in various stages of undress. Or something along those lines. But I digress... Anyway, if anyone misses this port, I'll be happy to maintain it privately and make it available from a public repository, if only because I strongly oppose censorship, so I would gladly help circumvent what I consider to be a hopelessly outdated and even morally wrong concept. Fonz Disclaimer: I am neither the author nor the maintainer of misc/jive. Ditto for deskutils/hot-babe. -- A.J. "Fonz" van Werven mailsig: Help! I'm a prisoner in a Chinese fortune cookie factory. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Commiter for www/drush update required
Am 20.10.2016 um 08:36 schrieb Matthias Fechner: > could a commiter please have a look on: > > https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=213612 > anyone willing to commit it? Thanks. Gruß Matthias -- "Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning." -- Rich Cook ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Alternatives to rsync
Hi, Reference: > From: "reko.turja--- via freebsd-ports" > Reply-to: reko.tu...@liukuma.net > Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 07:39:45 +0300 "reko.turja--- via freebsd-ports" wrote: > One of my users is needing rsync like functionality to transfer changed > contents of some directories between couple of machines. As rsync 3 isn't > open source, but GPL3 it's out of question in order to keep the system > untainted. > > The software should be relatively lightweight - no fullblown > mirroring/backup is needed. Also hints how to achieve similar ends using > maybe tar/ssh might do. > > -Reko I've used use /usr/ports/net/rdist6 for decades, similar to but a big improvement on rdist, rdist was in BSD src/ back I recall in UCB-4.2. Samples: http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/Distfile(also called from ./Makefile) http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/home/Distfile http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/scanjet/data/Distfile Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Linux Unix Sys Eng Consultant Munich Reply below, Prefix '> '. Plain text, No .doc, base64, HTML, quoted-printable. http://berklix.eu/brexit/#stolen_votes ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: pkg audit -F - insufficient privileges
Le 22/10/2016 à 09:37, Walter Schwarzenfeld a écrit : > ls -al /var/db/pkg|more > total 137316 > drwxr-x--x 1466 root wheel 42496 21 Okt 16:09 . > drwxr-xr-x20 root wheel 1024 21 Okt 16:43 .. Mmm, ok, I can't see why /var/db/pkg was 751 on your system. Maybe a strange umask when pkg bootstrapped itself. -- Mathieu Arnold signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: misc/jive deleted
On 22/10/2016 11:31, Alphons van Werven wrote: andrew clarke wrote: Is this the first time a port has been deleted for being "offensive"? There used to be "offensive" (a term to be taken rather loosely in this case) fortune cookies, but they got kicked out somewhere in 9.X. That was the base system though; not the ports tree. Come to think of it, I'm quite (be it pleasantly) surprised to see that deskutils/hot-babe is still allowed. I'm still half waiting for someone with misguided delusions of moral superiority to delete that port, thinking it's their decision to make that FreeBSD must not enable people to display their system load as a cartoon woman in various stages of undress. Or something along those lines. But I digress... Anyway, if anyone misses this port, I'll be happy to maintain it privately and make it available from a public repository, if only because I strongly oppose censorship, so I would gladly help circumvent what I consider to be a hopelessly outdated and even morally wrong concept. Fonz Could you maybe have a separate category in ports, called "uncensored" or something? We are all adults and can take care of ourselves, can't we? Grzegorz ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: misc/jive deleted
On Sat, 22 Oct 2016, andrew clarke wrote: > At the risk of this developing into a flame war, I thought this was > curious: > > https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/svn-ports-head/2016-August/126687.html > > Is this the first time a port has been deleted for being "offensive"? "man jive | jive" is quite hilarious, and I almost lost my job for piping all man pages through it; the boss had a "drinkful night" and was sure that his eyes were playing tricks on him, until he figured out that I was the perp. The man page for UUCP was quite interesting, for example; I actually had UUCP running on my home Z-80 box (there were overlays to hell and back). Next thing you know, "valgirl" will be deleted from Usenet... -- Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer." ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: misc/jive deleted
Grzegorz Junka wrote: > > On 22/10/2016 11:31, Alphons van Werven wrote: > > andrew clarke wrote: > > > >> Is this the first time a port has been deleted for being "offensive"? > > There used to be "offensive" (a term to be taken rather loosely in this > > case) fortune cookies, but they got kicked out somewhere in 9.X. That was > > the base system though; not the ports tree. > > > > Come to think of it, I'm quite (be it pleasantly) surprised to see that > > deskutils/hot-babe is still allowed. I'm still half waiting for someone > > with misguided delusions of moral superiority to delete that port, thinking > > it's their decision to make that FreeBSD must not enable people to display > > their system load as a cartoon woman in various stages of undress. Or > > something along those lines. But I digress... > > > > Anyway, if anyone misses this port, I'll be happy to maintain it privately > > and make it available from a public repository, if only because I strongly > > oppose censorship, so I would gladly help circumvent what I consider to be > > a hopelessly outdated and even morally wrong concept. > > > > Fonz > > > > Could you maybe have a separate category in ports, called "uncensored" > or something? We are all adults and can take care of ourselves, can't we? misc/jive is in 4.11-RELEASE 6.4-RELEASE 9.2-RELEASE 9.3-RELEASE 10.3-RELEASE, https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/branches/2016Q3/misc/jive/Makefile?view=log Censorship is offensive. Censor the offensive Censor: remove his/her commit bit. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Linux Unix Sys Eng Consultant Munich Reply below, Prefix '> '. Plain text, No .doc, base64, HTML, quoted-printable. http://berklix.eu/brexit/#stolen_votes ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: misc/jive deleted
Grzegorz Junka wrote: > Could you maybe have a separate category in ports, called "uncensored" or > something? We are all adults and can take care of ourselves, can't we? If memory serves me well, that has been suggested before and there were reasons (which I don't remember) for not doing that. Maybe something can be found in the list archives. Fonz -- A.J. "Fonz" van Werven mailsig: Help! I'm a prisoner in a Chinese fortune cookie factory. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
398 out of 1025 ports failed because of llvm37 compilation error
How to fix it? [00:52:02] >> [02][00:42:43] Finished build of devel/llvm37: Failed: build Exception occurred: File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sphinx/environment.py", line 1261, in get_doctree doctree = pickle.load(f) EOFError The full traceback has been saved in /tmp/sphinx-err-naeTZg.log, if you want to report the issue to the developers. Grzegorz ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: misc/jive deleted
On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 01:31:04PM +0200, Alphons van Werven wrote: > I'm still half waiting for someone with misguided delusions of moral > superiority to delete that port, thinking it's their decision to make > that FreeBSD must not enable people to display their system load as a > cartoon woman in various stages of undress. It's not delusions of moral superiority. It's common decency. There's no "censorship" if the FreeBSD developers make a collective decision that they don't want to be associated with juvenile junk that makes them look like a bunch of out-of-touch clueless old white guys; that instead they would like to look like adults rather than some adolescent clique; and that instead they would like to seem more welcoming to people that don't look, think, and talk exactly like they do. But your mileage may vary, and in this case, I'm practically certain of it. mcl ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: misc/jive deleted
On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 05:46:15PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > Censorship is offensive. Censor the offensive Censor: remove his/her commit > bit. IIUC correctly you will be removing more than one commit bit, but again, I cannot speak for those who made the decision. "Free Speech" means _you_ can publish anything _you_ want. It doesn't mean _you_ can make _other people_ publish what you want them to. mcl ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: 398 out of 1025 ports failed because of llvm37 compilation error
On 22/10/2016 16:04, Grzegorz Junka wrote: How to fix it? [00:52:02] >> [02][00:42:43] Finished build of devel/llvm37: Failed: build Exception occurred: File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/site-packages/sphinx/environment.py", line 1261, in get_doctree doctree = pickle.load(f) EOFError The full traceback has been saved in /tmp/sphinx-err-naeTZg.log, if you want to report the issue to the developers. Grzegorz ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" Disabling the documentation helped which probably means something is wrong in that part of the port. ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Advise requested when a repo split occurs
Hello, Some what recently a couple of the ports I maintain split into two, one being -server, and the other being -client. The code was more or less cloned then removed some make args/files that one would be used to enable both. Currently the code is so similar it would be possible to create a slave port and use the same patches, makefile and plist with minimal changes, however I have no idea the direction this split may go and this maybe short lived. So onto my topic for this post. Would it be better to create a new port with mostly duplicate code and remove/add the little changes required? Or as previously stated make a slave port and use the common code. I am struggling to decide on this and would appreciate opinions. Thanks Ultima ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Re: misc/jive deleted
On 22.10.2016 05:27, Mark Linimon wrote: disclaimer: I wasn't the person who made the decision. You are too humble, Mark. Whoever actually did it, would not have gone ahead if you objected. The "pro" removal points: some of these terms are no longer acceptable in polite society, and far cross the line from humor to offensive. If FreeBSD is trying to be more inclusive, having this around isn't the way. That begs the question, does not it? Is FreeBSD "trying to be more inclusive"? Is this -- being more inclusive (whatever that means) -- even a valid goal for a technical project? We aren't curing the world's ills nor aiming for a "greater justice" here -- we are simply building the best Operating System. A long as a port keeps building/packaging, it should remain available. Please, put it back if only to honor this sentiment: http://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/06/01/defend-say/ Thanks, -mi ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Jive prejudices (fwd)
missing "." get a bounce...
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 16:07:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: Louis Epstein
To: freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org, freebsd-ports@freebsdorg
Subject: Jive prejudices
Nobody has answered me on this on the Usenet group.
I've used FreeBSD since 2.1.
A couple of days ago I did one of my frequent svn updates of /usr/ports
and the revised MOVED file advised that misc/jive had been deleted,
"expired: Offensive".
Never having seen that as a reason to delete a port before (and countless
applications can be used to do things that offend),I then installed the
program via pkg out of sheer curiosity.
(I was at this point told the program was to deprecated and offensive
and asked to reconsider installing it as the installation went through).
>From the man page and the article about it ("Jive filter") on Wikipedia,
I gather that it's a parodic language-mangler like the ones that turn
prose into "valspeak" or "sound like a pirate" or "Swedish chef".
In any event,portmaster -a -i updates now abort because misc/jive is
detected on my system.
This goes beyond "We will no longer provide this application" to
"we will no longer let you upgrade your applications as long as you
have this one installed".
I am still able to upgrade via pkg but am wondering if that's next?
And when will portmaster resolve its wrinkles over linux_base-c6
and linux_base-c7 (the makefile for the former generates error messages
for both portmaster and svn now)?
You really need to have a hands-off policy on what software people use.
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Re: misc/jive deleted
Mark Linimon wrote: > Answering opposition/criticism with violence isn't exactly my style. I tend to take it as an indication that one has run out of rational arguments. Moreover, I think you'll find that the word you're looking for is . > It's not delusions of moral superiority. It's common decency. Decency is subject to personal and/or cultural opinion. Selectively suppressing matter that does not fit one's (moral, political, stylistic, religious, whatever) agenda *is* censorship. Simple as that. > There's no "censorship" if the FreeBSD developers make a collective > decision that they don't want to be associated with [snip derogative high horse description] > and that instead they would like to seem more welcoming to people that > don't look, think, and talk exactly like they do. Quite the opposite, in fact. If the FreeBSD developers make a collective decision that they don't want other people to be aware of software that isn't in line with exactly how they happen to look, think and talk, that's censorship. And it doesn't seem particularly welcoming to people with more liberal/relaxed attitudes than one's own. Fortunately, it's still possible to create one's own ports and to make the resulting packages available from one's own repositories. Therefore, I can't be bothered to be overly fussed when someone feels that FreeBSD ought to take a stance on morality. I find it unfortunate and think it's not the right way to go, but I'm accepting it and will gladly work around it, as is apparently necessary. Have a cookie, Fonz -- A.J. "Fonz" van Werven mailsig: Help! I'm a prisoner in a Chinese fortune cookie factory. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: misc/jive deleted
On Sat, 22 Oct 2016, Alphons van Werven wrote: > There used to be "offensive" (a term to be taken rather loosely in this > case) fortune cookies, but they got kicked out somewhere in 9.X. That > was the base system though; not the ports tree. Not to mention "fortune -o" (to get the obscene versions) and there were some beauties there... > Come to think of it, I'm quite (be it pleasantly) surprised to see that > deskutils/hot-babe is still allowed. I'm still half waiting for someone > with misguided delusions of moral superiority to delete that port, > thinking it's their decision to make that FreeBSD must not enable people > to display their system load as a cartoon woman in various stages of > undress. Or something along those lines. But I digress... I never cease to be astonished by censorship. > Anyway, if anyone misses this port, I'll be happy to maintain it > privately and make it available from a public repository, if only > because I strongly oppose censorship, so I would gladly help circumvent > what I consider to be a hopelessly outdated and even morally wrong > concept. Yes please; it seems to be marked as broken: aneurin% cd wmfortune aneurin% less *descr WMFortune outputs fortune messages, just as its name says. aneurin% make ===> wmfortune-0.241_3 is marked as broken: No public disfiles. *** [all] Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/games/wmfortune. Sigh... -- Dave Horsfall DTM (VK2KFU) "Those who don't understand security will suffer." ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: misc/jive deleted
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 02:44:11AM +0200, Alphons van Werven wrote: > > > > Answering opposition/criticism with violence isn't exactly my style. So. If you say something that makes me want to plow my face into my hands, that's violence? Wow. mcl ___ freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: misc/jive deleted
Mark Linimon wrote: >>> >> >> Answering opposition/criticism with violence isn't exactly my style. > > If you say something that makes me want to plow my face into my hands, > that's violence? I stand corrected. Something got lost in translation there. Fonz -- A.J. "Fonz" van Werven mailsig: Help! I'm a prisoner in a Chinese fortune cookie factory. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
