Re: portsnap depreciation

2020-09-18 Thread Carmel NY
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 15:44:27 -0700, John Kennedy stated:
>On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 08:17:35PM +, Pau Amma wrote:
>> On 2020-09-18 17:58, Carmel NY wrote:  
>> > On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 13:43:48 +, Pau Amma stated:  
>> >> See
>> >> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/testing-poudriere.html#testing-poudriere-ports-tree
>> >> and the next sections.  
>> > 
>> > According to the above page, "The most straightforward way is to
>> > have Poudriere create a default ports tree for itself, using either
>> > portsnap(8) (if running FreeBSD 12.1 or 11.4) or Subversion (if
>> > running FreeBSD-CURRENT)" Am I to understand that if I am running
>> > 11.4-RELEASE, I cannot use subversion?  
>> 
>> "The most straightforward", not "the only". You can definitely use 
>> Subversion with 11.4 if you wish or need to. What you no longer can
>> do is use portsnap with -CURRENT. (I'll grant that "straightforward"
>> may be in the eye of the beholder, though.)  
>
>For my stuff, I pull my stuff into /usr/ports however I want (git,
>long before it was fashionable in my case) and then just set up
>poudriere to use that.  I do a similar things with /usr/src, except I
>want poudriere to have a static copy of that, just in case.
>
>[initial creation]
>   poudriere jail -c -j 12-2 -v 12.2 -m src=/usr/src
>   poudriere ports -c -m null -M /usr/ports -p master
>
>   poudriere jail -l
>
>   JAILNAME VERSIONARCH  METHOD
>   TIMESTAMP   PATH 12-2 12.2-BETA2 1202000 amd64
>   src=/usr/src 2020-09-18 15:32:59
>   /usr/local/poudriere/jails/12-2
>
>  The "-m null" (null method) lets you manage it however you want.
>
>  If I look at my mounts during the build, with ZFS, I can see them:
>
>   Filesystem  SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted
>   on ...
>   /usr/ports  350G4.0G346G 1%
>   /usr/local/poudriere/data/.m/12-2-master/ref/usr/ports
>   /usr/ports/distfiles364G 17G346G 5%
>   /usr/local/poudriere/data/.m/12-2-master/ref/distfiles

Thanks John, but that is definitely more complex than my needs require.

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Re: portsnap depreciation

2020-09-18 Thread John Kennedy
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 08:17:35PM +, Pau Amma wrote:
> On 2020-09-18 17:58, Carmel NY wrote:
> > On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 13:43:48 +, Pau Amma stated:
> >> See
> >> https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/testing-poudriere.html#testing-poudriere-ports-tree
> >> and the next sections.
> > 
> > According to the above page, "The most straightforward way is to have
> > Poudriere create a default ports tree for itself, using either
> > portsnap(8) (if running FreeBSD 12.1 or 11.4) or Subversion (if running
> > FreeBSD-CURRENT)" Am I to understand that if I am running 11.4-RELEASE,
> > I cannot use subversion?
> 
> "The most straightforward", not "the only". You can definitely use 
> Subversion with 11.4 if you wish or need to. What you no longer can do 
> is use portsnap with -CURRENT. (I'll grant that "straightforward" may be 
> in the eye of the beholder, though.)

For my stuff, I pull my stuff into /usr/ports however I want (git, long before
it was fashionable in my case) and then just set up poudriere to use that.  I
do a similar things with /usr/src, except I want poudriere to have a static
copy of that, just in case.

[initial creation]
poudriere jail -c -j 12-2 -v 12.2 -m src=/usr/src
poudriere ports -c -m null -M /usr/ports -p master

poudriere jail -l

JAILNAME VERSIONARCH  METHOD   TIMESTAMP
   PATH
12-2 12.2-BETA2 1202000 amd64 src=/usr/src 2020-09-18 
15:32:59 /usr/local/poudriere/jails/12-2

  The "-m null" (null method) lets you manage it however you want.

  If I look at my mounts during the build, with ZFS, I can see them:

Filesystem  SizeUsed   Avail Capacity  Mounted on
...
/usr/ports  350G4.0G346G 1%
/usr/local/poudriere/data/.m/12-2-master/ref/usr/ports
/usr/ports/distfiles364G 17G346G 5%
/usr/local/poudriere/data/.m/12-2-master/ref/distfiles

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Re: portsnap depreciation

2020-09-18 Thread Pau Amma

On 2020-09-18 17:58, Carmel NY wrote:

On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 13:43:48 +, Pau Amma stated:

See
https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/testing-poudriere.html#testing-poudriere-ports-tree
and the next sections.


According to the above page, "The most straightforward way is to have
Poudriere create a default ports tree for itself, using either
portsnap(8) (if running FreeBSD 12.1 or 11.4) or Subversion (if running
FreeBSD-CURRENT)" Am I to understand that if I am running 11.4-RELEASE,
I cannot use subversion?


"The most straightforward", not "the only". You can definitely use 
Subversion with 11.4 if you wish or need to. What you no longer can do 
is use portsnap with -CURRENT. (I'll grant that "straightforward" may be 
in the eye of the beholder, though.)

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Re: portsnap depreciation

2020-09-18 Thread Rene Ladan
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 01:58:29PM -0400, Carmel NY wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 13:43:48 +, Pau Amma stated:
> >On 2020-09-18 11:14, Carmel NY wrote:
> >> Is 'portsnap'
> >> going to be depreciated?  
> >
> >Yes.
> >
> >> If so, when?  
> >
> >I believe when 13.0 is released, or already if you're using a recent 
> >-current.
> >
> >> If is is depreciated, how will
> >> this affect poudriere?  
> >
> >See 
> >https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/testing-poudriere.html#testing-poudriere-ports-tree
> > 
> >and the next sections.
> 
> According to the above page, "The most straightforward way is to have
> Poudriere create a default ports tree for itself, using either
> portsnap(8) (if running FreeBSD 12.1 or 11.4) or Subversion (if running
> FreeBSD-CURRENT)" Am I to understand that if I am running 11.4-RELEASE,
> I cannot use subversion?
> 
You can if you specify the -m (method) parameter when creating the
poudriere ports tree.

René
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Re: portsnap depreciation

2020-09-18 Thread David Wolfskill
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 01:58:29PM -0400, Carmel NY wrote:
> ...
> >https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/testing-poudriere.html#testing-poudriere-ports-tree
> > 
> >and the next sections.
> 
> According to the above page, "The most straightforward way is to have
> Poudriere create a default ports tree for itself, using either
> portsnap(8) (if running FreeBSD 12.1 or 11.4) or Subversion (if running
> FreeBSD-CURRENT)" Am I to understand that if I am running 11.4-RELEASE,
> I cannot use subversion?
> 

I don't see any reason why you cannot use subversion: I do, and have
done, since 05 July 2015, running stable/10  at the time; now running
stable/12.

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Re: portsnap depreciation

2020-09-18 Thread Carmel NY
On Fri, 18 Sep 2020 13:43:48 +, Pau Amma stated:
>On 2020-09-18 11:14, Carmel NY wrote:
>> Is 'portsnap'
>> going to be depreciated?  
>
>Yes.
>
>> If so, when?  
>
>I believe when 13.0 is released, or already if you're using a recent 
>-current.
>
>> If is is depreciated, how will
>> this affect poudriere?  
>
>See 
>https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/testing-poudriere.html#testing-poudriere-ports-tree
> 
>and the next sections.

According to the above page, "The most straightforward way is to have
Poudriere create a default ports tree for itself, using either
portsnap(8) (if running FreeBSD 12.1 or 11.4) or Subversion (if running
FreeBSD-CURRENT)" Am I to understand that if I am running 11.4-RELEASE,
I cannot use subversion?

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Re: portsnap depreciation

2020-09-18 Thread Pau Amma

On 2020-09-18 11:14, Carmel NY wrote:

Is 'portsnap'
going to be depreciated?


Yes.


If so, when?


I believe when 13.0 is released, or already if you're using a recent 
-current.



If is is depreciated, how will
this affect poudriere?


See 
https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/porters-handbook/testing-poudriere.html#testing-poudriere-ports-tree 
and the next sections.

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portsnap depreciation

2020-09-18 Thread Carmel NY
Perhaps I am wrong on this, so I thought I would ask. Is 'portsnap'
going to be depreciated? If so, when? If is is depreciated, how will
this affect poudriere? I thought that poudriere used 'portsnap'.

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