Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

2014-08-31 Thread olli hauer
On 2014-08-31 22:38, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 8:37 PM, olli hauer  wrote:
>>
>> Hm, do you mean update with subversion to 8.4-stable or 8.4-current?
> 
> Yes, and 8.4-stable. There is no 8.4-current.
> 
>> Unless you have a non default kernel there is no need to rebuild to get 
>> 8.4-stable, just run `freebsd-update fetch install' without '-r ...' and you 
>> are done.
> 
> Ok. Old habits came into play; I've always updated my FreeBSD systems
> via source. It is that freebsd-update which is new to me...
> 
> 
>> Rebuilding the system from source can break freebsd-update specially if 
>> build with custom optimizations (-O...)
> 
> Noted. In my case, using freebsd-update was only to get out of the
> "ports tree suddenly not supported" situation I got into.
> 
>> Anyway good to hear you managed to get your system to a supported release.
> 
> Yes. :)
> 

If you have the time / resources setup a small test jail/vm with an older
release to play with freebsd-update try it out.

In case there is a security update or other fix for stable freebsd-update
will lift your system with one or two commands to the new stable version.

freebsd-update updates not only the OS but also /usr/src

Once you've done that you will love it.

PS:
After using freebsd-update the directory "/var/db/freebsd-update" and
your system is running stable you can cleanup everything inside
"/var/db/freebsd-update" to save some space.

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Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

2014-08-31 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 8:37 PM, olli hauer  wrote:
>
> Hm, do you mean update with subversion to 8.4-stable or 8.4-current?

Yes, and 8.4-stable. There is no 8.4-current.

> Unless you have a non default kernel there is no need to rebuild to get 
> 8.4-stable, just run `freebsd-update fetch install' without '-r ...' and you 
> are done.

Ok. Old habits came into play; I've always updated my FreeBSD systems
via source. It is that freebsd-update which is new to me...


> Rebuilding the system from source can break freebsd-update specially if build 
> with custom optimizations (-O...)

Noted. In my case, using freebsd-update was only to get out of the
"ports tree suddenly not supported" situation I got into.

> Anyway good to hear you managed to get your system to a supported release.

Yes. :)

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Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

2014-08-31 Thread olli hauer
On 2014-08-31 19:43, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Erich Dollansky
>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I did not got through the full thread to see if you found a solution.
> 
> Yes, I did. In fact, freebsd-update provided the solution; I used it
> to upgrade to FreeBSD 8.4-release:
> root@kg-vm2# uname -a
> FreeBSD kg-vm2 8.4-RELEASE-p14 FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE-p14 #0: Tue Jul  8
> 12:41:46 UTC 2014
>  r...@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64
> 
> and since the machine now is on a supported version, the ports tree
> works again, and I installed subversion and
> used that to get the latest FreeBSD 8-stable source on the machine,
> and used that to update the machine to FreeBSD 8.4-stable.

Hm, do you mean update with subversion to 8.4-stable or 8.4-current?

Unless you have a non default kernel there is no need to rebuild to get 
8.4-stable, just run `freebsd-update fetch install' without '-r ...' and you 
are done.

Rebuilding the system from source can break freebsd-update specially if build 
with custom optimizations (-O...)

Anyway good to hear you managed to get your system to a supported release.


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Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

2014-08-31 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Erich Dollansky
 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I did not got through the full thread to see if you found a solution.

Yes, I did. In fact, freebsd-update provided the solution; I used it
to upgrade to FreeBSD 8.4-release:
root@kg-vm2# uname -a
FreeBSD kg-vm2 8.4-RELEASE-p14 FreeBSD 8.4-RELEASE-p14 #0: Tue Jul  8
12:41:46 UTC 2014
 r...@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  amd64

and since the machine now is on a supported version, the ports tree
works again, and I installed subversion and
used that to get the latest FreeBSD 8-stable source on the machine,
and used that to update the machine to FreeBSD 8.4-stable.

HTH
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Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

2014-08-27 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi,

I did not got through the full thread to see if you found a solution.

Allow me to tell you how I generally update multiple machines no matter
in what state they are in. If they are all on the same source version,
I compile on one machine the new kernel for the target machine. I will
install it them either via NFS on other machines or via bootable media
on which I copy the newly compiled source tree and the new binaries.

When the other machine is up, I go through the normal installation
procedure for kernel and world. Be careful with mergemaster and do not
overwrite some configuration files.

It might seems awkward but I did not run into any problems since I
moved to this procedure.

You might get first a generic kernel onto an external media and upgrade
to generic if you want before compiling the 'real thing' on the target
machine.

Erich

On Tue, 26 Aug 2014 22:11:25 +0200
Torfinn Ingolfsen  wrote:

> I have a machine which has an old installation of FreeBSD 8.3 on it:
> root@kg-vm2# uname -a
> FreeBSD kg-vm2 8.3-RC2 FreeBSD 8.3-RC2 #0: Sat Mar 24 16:15:47 UTC
> 2012 r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
> amd64
> 
> and I want to update it. Since FreeBSD this old doesn't have svnlite
> installed, I fetch a ports tree (no, this machine didn't have one
> already) and try to install the subversion port:
> root@kg-vm2# cd /usr/ports/devel/subversion
> root@kg-vm2# make install
> Unknown modifier 't'
> 
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 1727: Malformed conditional
> (defined(USE_RC_SUBR) && ${USE_RC_SUBR:tu} != "YES")
> Unknown modifier 't'
> 
> Unknown modifier 't'
> 
> Unknown modifier 't'
> 
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk", line 956: Malformed conditional
> (!empty(_PERL_CPAN_ID) && ${_PERL_CPAN_FLAG:tl} == "cpan")
> Unknown modifier 't'
> 
> Unknown modifier 't'
> 
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2858: Unclosed conditional/for loop
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2858: Unexpected end of file in for
> loop.
> 
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 6574: Unclosed conditional/for loop
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 6574: Unexpected end of file in for
> loop.
> 
> make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
> 
> So I google a bit and find this[1] thread.
> Hmm, ok let's try to install bmake then:
> root@kg-vm2# cd /usr/ports/devel/bmake
> root@kg-vm2# make install
> Unknown modifier 't'
> 
> Unknown modifier 't'
> 
> Unknown modifier 't'
> 
> Unknown modifier 't'
> 
> Unknown modifier 't'
> 
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk", line 956: Malformed conditional
> (!empty(_PERL_CPAN_ID) && ${_PERL_CPAN_FLAG:tl} == "cpan")
> Unknown modifier 't'
> 
> Unknown modifier 't'
> 
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2858: Unclosed conditional/for loop
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2858: Unexpected end of file in for
> loop.
> 
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 6574: Unclosed conditional/for loop
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 6574: Unexpected end of file in for
> loop.
> 
> 1 open conditional:
>  at line 1167 (evaluated to true)
> make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
> 
> Now, can anyone explain to me how I am going to get an updated source
> (/usr/src) onto this machine, without resorting to (to me, totally
> unnecessary) unconventional steps?
> 
> AFAICT, there is nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING about this.
> So much for POLA.
> Bah.
> 
> References:
> 1) https://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=46291#p258936

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Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

2014-08-27 Thread Lawrence K. Chen, P.Eng.


On 08/27/14 17:09, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Kurt Jaeger  wrote:
>> Hi!
>>> I didn't figure it out from the man page at least.
>>> Trying the simple solution doesn't work:
>>> root@kg-vm2# freebsd-update fetch
>>
>> Try
>>
>> freebsd-update -r 8.4-RELEASE upgrade
> 
> this one appears to work (and yes, I should have figured it out from
> the man page):
> root@kg-vm2#  freebsd-update -r 8.4-RELEASE upgrade
> Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found.
> Fetching metadata signature for 8.3-RC2 from update5.freebsd.org... done.
> Fetching metadata index... done.
> Fetching 1 metadata files... done.
> Inspecting system... done.
> 
> The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed:
> kernel/generic src/base src/bin src/cddl src/contrib src/crypto src/etc
> src/games src/gnu src/include src/krb5 src/lib src/libexec src/release
> src/rescue src/sbin src/secure src/share src/sys src/tools src/ubin
> src/usbin world/base world/doc world/games world/lib32 world/manpages
> 
> The following components of FreeBSD do not seem to be installed:
> world/catpages world/dict world/info world/proflibs
> 
> Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y
> 
> Fetching metadata signature for 8.4-RELEASE from update5.freebsd.org... done.
> Fetching metadata index... done.
> Fetching 1 metadata patches. done.
> Applying metadata patches... done.
> Fetching 1 metadata files... done.
> Inspecting system... done.
> Fetching files from 8.3-RC2 for merging... done.
> Preparing to download files... done.
> Fetching 34433 
> patches.102030405060708090100110120
> 
> 
> So perhaps the freebsd-update method should be documented as "the way out"?
> 

I missed the start of this threadbut two months ago, had a customer with a
FreeBSD 9.0 system (with jails) that had wanted to upgrade Jenkins ... where
after doing an 'ezjail-admin update -P' ran into similar issues from 
bsd.port.mk.

Using freebse-update to upgrade to 9.1-RELEASE went a lot better than I
expected, including upgrading the jails...something its previous admin had
said wasn't possible, hence the lack of updates/upgrades.

At the time, I was partly hoping that 9.3 would make an early appearance, even
though it would be difficult to know if there would be any surprisesbeyond
the ones I had prepared for, having run into such issues when I updated some
servers from 9.1 to 9.2.

But, I opted to only take them to 9.1, since at the time...9.2 was going to
EOL at the end of September, while 9.1 wouldn't EOL until the end of the year.
 And, I had been told that they're moving sometime next quarter, so it'll be
somebody else's problem when they need to upgrade again.

Not sure about the fate of the other two production 9.1 servers.

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Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

2014-08-27 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello,

On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 5:07 PM, Kurt Jaeger  wrote:
> Hi!
>> I didn't figure it out from the man page at least.
>> Trying the simple solution doesn't work:
>> root@kg-vm2# freebsd-update fetch
>
> Try
>
> freebsd-update -r 8.4-RELEASE upgrade

this one appears to work (and yes, I should have figured it out from
the man page):
root@kg-vm2#  freebsd-update -r 8.4-RELEASE upgrade
Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found.
Fetching metadata signature for 8.3-RC2 from update5.freebsd.org... done.
Fetching metadata index... done.
Fetching 1 metadata files... done.
Inspecting system... done.

The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed:
kernel/generic src/base src/bin src/cddl src/contrib src/crypto src/etc
src/games src/gnu src/include src/krb5 src/lib src/libexec src/release
src/rescue src/sbin src/secure src/share src/sys src/tools src/ubin
src/usbin world/base world/doc world/games world/lib32 world/manpages

The following components of FreeBSD do not seem to be installed:
world/catpages world/dict world/info world/proflibs

Does this look reasonable (y/n)? y

Fetching metadata signature for 8.4-RELEASE from update5.freebsd.org... done.
Fetching metadata index... done.
Fetching 1 metadata patches. done.
Applying metadata patches... done.
Fetching 1 metadata files... done.
Inspecting system... done.
Fetching files from 8.3-RC2 for merging... done.
Preparing to download files... done.
Fetching 34433 
patches.102030405060708090100110120


So perhaps the freebsd-update method should be documented as "the way out"?
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Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

2014-08-27 Thread Mathieu Arnold

+--On 27 août 2014 17:07:41 +0200 Kurt Jaeger  wrote:
| Hi!
|> I didn't figure it out from the man page at least.
|> Trying the simple solution doesn't work:
|> root@kg-vm2# freebsd-update fetch
| 
| Try
| 
| freebsd-update -r 8.4-RELEASE upgrade

And if that says it can't find stuff because it's a -RC2, you can always
run:

env UNAME_r=8.3-RELEASE freebsd-update -r 8.4-RELEASE upgrade

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Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

2014-08-27 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi!
> I didn't figure it out from the man page at least.
> Trying the simple solution doesn't work:
> root@kg-vm2# freebsd-update fetch

Try

freebsd-update -r 8.4-RELEASE upgrade

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Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

2014-08-27 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Royce Williams  wrote:
>
> Just because it says RC doesn't mean that it can't be upgraded with
> freebsd-update.
>
> If freebsd-update was used to bump to BETA, RC, PRERELEASE, etc. then
> it can be used to bump again to RELEASE.  (I assume that this
> functionality isn't going away just because of package changes.)
>
> Actually, can freebsd-update be used to switch from tracking STABLE to
> tracking a subsequent release?  I know that the diffs aren't on the
> freebsd-update servers for that, but could it be forced, and then
> follow up with a manual merge of /etc changes?
>

I didn't figure it out from the man page at least.
Trying the simple solution doesn't work:
root@kg-vm2# freebsd-update fetch
Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 5 mirrors found.
Fetching public key from update2.freebsd.org... done.
Fetching metadata signature for 8.3-RC2 from update2.freebsd.org... done.
Fetching metadata index... done.
Fetching 1 metadata files... done.
Inspecting system... done.
Preparing to download files... done.

No updates needed to update system to 8.3-RC2-p0.

WARNING: FreeBSD 8.3-RC2 HAS PASSED ITS END-OF-LIFE DATE.
Any security issues discovered after Fri May 25 02:00:00 CEST 2012
will not have been corrected.


HTH
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Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

2014-08-27 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 5:04 AM, James R. Van Artsdalen  wrote:
> Which branch of ports did Torfinn use?

no branch, simply portsnap fetch; portsnap extract.


>
> fetch branch ports/branches/RELEASE_8_4_0/ and see if that works.

Hmm, checking the man page for portsnap - it doesn't look like (to me
at least) it supports getting branches of ports...
So where are the instructions for that operation?

(and thanks to all who replied with instructions on how to fix the
actual problem (getting a make binary, getting a static subersion and
so on) I knew some of them, and learned a few new ones)

The point being; assuming the worst situation; that I was
inexperienced with FreeBSD and only had this one machine with FreeBSD
available, I would expect and want the system to tell me about the
problem in a useful way which would give me breadcrumbs / clues
pointers / to a solution, be it in /usr/ports/UPDATING or otherwise
(but it should be somewhere I would expect it, for POLA reasons).

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Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

2014-08-27 Thread Royce Williams
On Wed, Aug 27, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Michael Gmelin  wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 10:26:42 +0200
> Michelle Sullivan  wrote:
>
>> Daniel Austin via freebsd-ports wrote:
>> >
>> > On 27/08/2014 03:13, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>> >>> While I understandthe need to get rid of the old system, three
>> >>> needs ot be
>> >>> a clear path for those wanting ot update old versions. I hit this
>> >>> yesterday
>> >>> trying to upgrade a 9.0-RC2 system and it was a real pain.
>> >> Can't just do a checkout on an older machine and tar/rsync it over?
>> >
>> > Or download the src tarballs from a current release from one of the
>> > FTP mirrors?
>> >
>> > Or, if currently on a -RELEASE, use freebsd-update first?
>> >
>>
>> Subject says the system is 8.3-RC2 ... so not on a -RELEASE
>
> I think he was answering the general "there needs to be a clear path
> for those wanting to update old versions" requirement. Upgrading from
> RC, downloading src.txz seems like a reasonable approach.

Just because it says RC doesn't mean that it can't be upgraded with
freebsd-update.

If freebsd-update was used to bump to BETA, RC, PRERELEASE, etc. then
it can be used to bump again to RELEASE.  (I assume that this
functionality isn't going away just because of package changes.)

Actually, can freebsd-update be used to switch from tracking STABLE to
tracking a subsequent release?  I know that the diffs aren't on the
freebsd-update servers for that, but could it be forced, and then
follow up with a manual merge of /etc changes?

Royce
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Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

2014-08-27 Thread Michael Gmelin
On Wed, 27 Aug 2014 10:26:42 +0200
Michelle Sullivan  wrote:

> Daniel Austin via freebsd-ports wrote:
> >
> > On 27/08/2014 03:13, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> >>> While I understandthe need to get rid of the old system, three
> >>> needs ot be
> >>> a clear path for those wanting ot update old versions. I hit this
> >>> yesterday
> >>> trying to upgrade a 9.0-RC2 system and it was a real pain.
> >> Can't just do a checkout on an older machine and tar/rsync it over?
> >
> > Or download the src tarballs from a current release from one of the
> > FTP mirrors?
> >
> > Or, if currently on a -RELEASE, use freebsd-update first?
> >
> 
> Subject says the system is 8.3-RC2 ... so not on a -RELEASE
> 

I think he was answering the general "there needs to be a clear path
for those wanting to update old versions" requirement. Upgrading from
RC, downloading src.txz seems like a reasonable approach.

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Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

2014-08-27 Thread Thomas Mueller
> > Or download the src tarballs from a current release from one of the
> > FTP mirrors?

> > Or, if currently on a -RELEASE, use freebsd-update first?

> Subject says the system is 8.3-RC2 ... so not on a -RELEASE

--
> Michelle Sullivan
> http://www.mhix.org/

Would it not be possible to download src tree in tgx, tbz or txz form from a 
release such as 10.0?  I think it would be txz.

I just browsed without downloading on ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/

That will lead you to where you can download either source tree (src.txz) or 
binary sets, your choice between 10.0-STABLE, 11-current, 10.0-RELEASE.

For ports tree, I believe you can download with svnlite, included with FreeBSD 
>= 10.0, or portsnap.

Both of these are part of the base system unless you specifically disable 
building them.

Tom

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Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

2014-08-27 Thread Michelle Sullivan
Daniel Austin via freebsd-ports wrote:
>
> On 27/08/2014 03:13, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
>>> While I understandthe need to get rid of the old system, three needs
>>> ot be
>>> a clear path for those wanting ot update old versions. I hit this
>>> yesterday
>>> trying to upgrade a 9.0-RC2 system and it was a real pain.
>> Can't just do a checkout on an older machine and tar/rsync it over?
>
> Or download the src tarballs from a current release from one of the
> FTP mirrors?
>
> Or, if currently on a -RELEASE, use freebsd-update first?
>

Subject says the system is 8.3-RC2 ... so not on a -RELEASE

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Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

2014-08-27 Thread Daniel Austin via freebsd-ports


On 27/08/2014 03:13, Alfred Perlstein wrote:

While I understandthe need to get rid of the old system, three needs
ot be
a clear path for those wanting ot update old versions. I hit this
yesterday
trying to upgrade a 9.0-RC2 system and it was a real pain.

Can't just do a checkout on an older machine and tar/rsync it over?


Or download the src tarballs from a current release from one of the FTP 
mirrors?


Or, if currently on a -RELEASE, use freebsd-update first?


Thanks,

Daniel.

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Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

2014-08-26 Thread Alfred Perlstein


On 8/26/14 5:22 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote:

On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Michelle Sullivan 
wrote:


And this is precisely why I think the killing of the old packaging
system on Sept 1, is the wrong thing to do.

If you don't have the new packaging system installed and setup by then,
you're screwed... royally...

Happened somewhere between 6.x and 7.x with the ports tree, pre 8.4...
the list goes on

FWIW Torfinn, get a amd64, 8.4 make binary (from the install disk) and
manually copy it over (just /usr/bin/make ) backing up the original first.

You'll find the ports tree will then work... well until Sept 1 when all
hell breaks loose if you use anything but the quarterly SVN tree...
and then you'll have 90 days more..

Michelle

Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:

I have a machine which has an old installation of FreeBSD 8.3 on it:
root@kg-vm2# uname -a
FreeBSD kg-vm2 8.3-RC2 FreeBSD 8.3-RC2 #0: Sat Mar 24 16:15:47 UTC
2012 r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
amd64

and I want to update it. Since FreeBSD this old doesn't have svnlite
installed, I fetch a ports tree (no, this machine didn't have one
already) and try to install the subversion port:
root@kg-vm2# cd /usr/ports/devel/subversion
root@kg-vm2# make install
Unknown modifier 't'

"/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 1727: Malformed conditional
(defined(USE_RC_SUBR) && ${USE_RC_SUBR:tu} != "YES")
Unknown modifier 't'

Unknown modifier 't'

Unknown modifier 't'

"/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk", line 956: Malformed conditional
(!empty(_PERL_CPAN_ID) && ${_PERL_CPAN_FLAG:tl} == "cpan")
Unknown modifier 't'

Unknown modifier 't'

"/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2858: Unclosed conditional/for loop
"/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2858: Unexpected end of file in for

loop.

"/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 6574: Unclosed conditional/for loop
"/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 6574: Unexpected end of file in for

loop.

make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue

So I google a bit and find this[1] thread.
Hmm, ok let's try to install bmake then:
root@kg-vm2# cd /usr/ports/devel/bmake
root@kg-vm2# make install
Unknown modifier 't'

Unknown modifier 't'

Unknown modifier 't'

Unknown modifier 't'

Unknown modifier 't'

"/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk", line 956: Malformed conditional
(!empty(_PERL_CPAN_ID) && ${_PERL_CPAN_FLAG:tl} == "cpan")
Unknown modifier 't'

Unknown modifier 't'

"/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2858: Unclosed conditional/for loop
"/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2858: Unexpected end of file in for

loop.

"/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 6574: Unclosed conditional/for loop
"/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 6574: Unexpected end of file in for

loop.

1 open conditional:
  at line 1167 (evaluated to true)
make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue

Now, can anyone explain to me how I am going to get an updated source
(/usr/src) onto this machine, without resorting to (to me, totally
unnecessary) unconventional steps?

AFAICT, there is nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING about this.
So much for POLA.
Bah.

References:
1) https://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=46291#p258936



--
Michelle Sullivan
http://www.mhix.org/



While I understandthe need to get rid of the old system, three needs ot be
a clear path for those wanting ot update old versions. I hit this yesterday
trying to upgrade a 9.0-RC2 system and it was a real pain.

Can't just do a checkout on an older machine and tar/rsync it over?

-Alfred
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Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

2014-08-26 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Michelle Sullivan 
wrote:

> And this is precisely why I think the killing of the old packaging
> system on Sept 1, is the wrong thing to do.
>
> If you don't have the new packaging system installed and setup by then,
> you're screwed... royally...
>
> Happened somewhere between 6.x and 7.x with the ports tree, pre 8.4...
> the list goes on
>
> FWIW Torfinn, get a amd64, 8.4 make binary (from the install disk) and
> manually copy it over (just /usr/bin/make ) backing up the original first.
>
> You'll find the ports tree will then work... well until Sept 1 when all
> hell breaks loose if you use anything but the quarterly SVN tree...
> and then you'll have 90 days more..
>
> Michelle
>
> Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
> > I have a machine which has an old installation of FreeBSD 8.3 on it:
> > root@kg-vm2# uname -a
> > FreeBSD kg-vm2 8.3-RC2 FreeBSD 8.3-RC2 #0: Sat Mar 24 16:15:47 UTC
> > 2012 r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
> > amd64
> >
> > and I want to update it. Since FreeBSD this old doesn't have svnlite
> > installed, I fetch a ports tree (no, this machine didn't have one
> > already) and try to install the subversion port:
> > root@kg-vm2# cd /usr/ports/devel/subversion
> > root@kg-vm2# make install
> > Unknown modifier 't'
> >
> > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 1727: Malformed conditional
> > (defined(USE_RC_SUBR) && ${USE_RC_SUBR:tu} != "YES")
> > Unknown modifier 't'
> >
> > Unknown modifier 't'
> >
> > Unknown modifier 't'
> >
> > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk", line 956: Malformed conditional
> > (!empty(_PERL_CPAN_ID) && ${_PERL_CPAN_FLAG:tl} == "cpan")
> > Unknown modifier 't'
> >
> > Unknown modifier 't'
> >
> > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2858: Unclosed conditional/for loop
> > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2858: Unexpected end of file in for
> loop.
> >
> > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 6574: Unclosed conditional/for loop
> > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 6574: Unexpected end of file in for
> loop.
> >
> > make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
> >
> > So I google a bit and find this[1] thread.
> > Hmm, ok let's try to install bmake then:
> > root@kg-vm2# cd /usr/ports/devel/bmake
> > root@kg-vm2# make install
> > Unknown modifier 't'
> >
> > Unknown modifier 't'
> >
> > Unknown modifier 't'
> >
> > Unknown modifier 't'
> >
> > Unknown modifier 't'
> >
> > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk", line 956: Malformed conditional
> > (!empty(_PERL_CPAN_ID) && ${_PERL_CPAN_FLAG:tl} == "cpan")
> > Unknown modifier 't'
> >
> > Unknown modifier 't'
> >
> > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2858: Unclosed conditional/for loop
> > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2858: Unexpected end of file in for
> loop.
> >
> > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 6574: Unclosed conditional/for loop
> > "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 6574: Unexpected end of file in for
> loop.
> >
> > 1 open conditional:
> >  at line 1167 (evaluated to true)
> > make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
> >
> > Now, can anyone explain to me how I am going to get an updated source
> > (/usr/src) onto this machine, without resorting to (to me, totally
> > unnecessary) unconventional steps?
> >
> > AFAICT, there is nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING about this.
> > So much for POLA.
> > Bah.
> >
> > References:
> > 1) https://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=46291#p258936
> >
>
>
> --
> Michelle Sullivan
> http://www.mhix.org/
>
>
While I understandthe need to get rid of the old system, three needs ot be
a clear path for those wanting ot update old versions. I hit this yesterday
trying to upgrade a 9.0-RC2 system and it was a real pain.
--
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired
E-mail: rkober...@gmail.com
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Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

2014-08-26 Thread Michelle Sullivan
And this is precisely why I think the killing of the old packaging
system on Sept 1, is the wrong thing to do.

If you don't have the new packaging system installed and setup by then,
you're screwed... royally...

Happened somewhere between 6.x and 7.x with the ports tree, pre 8.4... 
the list goes on 

FWIW Torfinn, get a amd64, 8.4 make binary (from the install disk) and
manually copy it over (just /usr/bin/make ) backing up the original first.

You'll find the ports tree will then work... well until Sept 1 when all
hell breaks loose if you use anything but the quarterly SVN tree...
and then you'll have 90 days more..

Michelle

Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
> I have a machine which has an old installation of FreeBSD 8.3 on it:
> root@kg-vm2# uname -a
> FreeBSD kg-vm2 8.3-RC2 FreeBSD 8.3-RC2 #0: Sat Mar 24 16:15:47 UTC
> 2012 r...@mason.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
> amd64
>
> and I want to update it. Since FreeBSD this old doesn't have svnlite
> installed, I fetch a ports tree (no, this machine didn't have one
> already) and try to install the subversion port:
> root@kg-vm2# cd /usr/ports/devel/subversion
> root@kg-vm2# make install
> Unknown modifier 't'
>
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 1727: Malformed conditional
> (defined(USE_RC_SUBR) && ${USE_RC_SUBR:tu} != "YES")
> Unknown modifier 't'
>
> Unknown modifier 't'
>
> Unknown modifier 't'
>
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk", line 956: Malformed conditional
> (!empty(_PERL_CPAN_ID) && ${_PERL_CPAN_FLAG:tl} == "cpan")
> Unknown modifier 't'
>
> Unknown modifier 't'
>
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2858: Unclosed conditional/for loop
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2858: Unexpected end of file in for loop.
>
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 6574: Unclosed conditional/for loop
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 6574: Unexpected end of file in for loop.
>
> make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
>
> So I google a bit and find this[1] thread.
> Hmm, ok let's try to install bmake then:
> root@kg-vm2# cd /usr/ports/devel/bmake
> root@kg-vm2# make install
> Unknown modifier 't'
>
> Unknown modifier 't'
>
> Unknown modifier 't'
>
> Unknown modifier 't'
>
> Unknown modifier 't'
>
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk", line 956: Malformed conditional
> (!empty(_PERL_CPAN_ID) && ${_PERL_CPAN_FLAG:tl} == "cpan")
> Unknown modifier 't'
>
> Unknown modifier 't'
>
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2858: Unclosed conditional/for loop
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 2858: Unexpected end of file in for loop.
>
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 6574: Unclosed conditional/for loop
> "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk", line 6574: Unexpected end of file in for loop.
>
> 1 open conditional:
>  at line 1167 (evaluated to true)
> make: fatal errors encountered -- cannot continue
>
> Now, can anyone explain to me how I am going to get an updated source
> (/usr/src) onto this machine, without resorting to (to me, totally
> unnecessary) unconventional steps?
>
> AFAICT, there is nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING about this.
> So much for POLA.
> Bah.
>
> References:
> 1) https://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=46291#p258936
>   


-- 
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http://www.mhix.org/

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Re: I want to upgrade an old (8.3-RC2) FReeBSD installation, but can't install subversion

2014-08-26 Thread Kurt Jaeger
Hi!

> and I want to update it. Since FreeBSD this old doesn't have svnlite
> installed, I fetch a ports tree (no, this machine didn't have one
> already) and try to install the subversion port:
> root@kg-vm2# cd /usr/ports/devel/subversion
> root@kg-vm2# make install
> Unknown modifier 't'

Get the binary package from 8.4 and try to install it: (i386 or amd64?)

ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-8.4-release/devel/subversion-static-1.7.9_1.tbz

This probably runs on 8.3-RC2.

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