Re: ansi colors in ports

2009-03-31 Thread Eitan Adler

> Perhaps because it is unneccessary?
> IMHO, I prefer the ports infrastructure to be functional, rather than
> "nice looking" any day.
It could be both ;)
Functional is often a result of a nice looking display as well.
> 

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Re: ansi colors in ports

2009-03-31 Thread Lars Eighner

On Tue, 31 Mar 2009, Sandra Kachelmann wrote:


Why does freebsd ports not use ansi colors? This would be so nice :-)
Eg. ECHO_MSG would be so much more visible within the compilation
soup. Gentoo uses colors too!


In fact, some ports do use ansi color for some things.  It pretty much
depends upon the source.  Many applications are written to compile in a
variety of environments, including those in which compiling from an
ansi-capable terminal is not guaranteed.  I think porters should do as
little to the source as possible, and that maintaining other applications
would be a better use of their time than forcing pretty-pretty on a compile
that should run only once.

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Re: ansi colors in ports

2009-03-31 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hi,

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 7:28 PM, Sandra Kachelmann
 wrote:
> Why does freebsd ports not use ansi colors? This would be so nice :-)

Perhaps because it is unneccessary?
IMHO, I prefer the ports infrastructure to be functional, rather than
"nice looking" any day.

> Eg. ECHO_MSG would be so much more visible within the compilation
> soup. Gentoo uses colors too!

Well, if we start using colors as indicators instead of text, how
about blind people then?
Are we just going to break things for people just because they have
bad eyesight?

I sure hope not.

Those who need to color their output can use tools to do that, like
colortail[1].

References:
1) http://www.freshports.org/misc/colortail/
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Re: Collecting pkg-message files [was: ansi colors in ports]

2009-03-31 Thread Wesley Shields
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 07:28:34PM +0200, Sandra Kachelmann wrote:
> Why does freebsd ports not use ansi colors? This would be so nice :-)
> Eg. ECHO_MSG would be so much more visible within the compilation
> soup. Gentoo uses colors too!

I have no comment on using ANSI colors, but I'd like to point something
out that I think is more important than coloring build output...

During compilation the most important information to users is contained
in the pkg-message that is displayed.  Traditionally this has shown to
be a problem because it often gets pushed into the scrollback buffer.
I've got a patch sitting in GNATS about this that I'd like feedback on.
It collects all the pkg-message files and displays them in a pager at
the end of the build.

I'm hoping people will comment on it and it will eventually make it into
the tree as I think it will be useful.  I know portmaster has a similar
behavior which I find quite useful when updating lots of ports.

http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/122877

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ansi colors in ports

2009-03-31 Thread Sandra Kachelmann
Why does freebsd ports not use ansi colors? This would be so nice :-)
Eg. ECHO_MSG would be so much more visible within the compilation
soup. Gentoo uses colors too!

Sandra
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