Re: reccomendation for a building architecture schematic diagram editor ?

[Ronald Klop]

On Thu, 03 May 2018 18:45:49 +0200, Miroslav Lachman <000.f...@quip.cz>  
wrote:



Julian H. Stacey wrote on 2018/05/03 14:54:

CC pruned, & 1 added as som thread commonality below ***
 Miroslav Lachman wrote:

The cad/freecad port has PORTNAME= FreeCAD in the Makefile, so the
package name is FreeCAD-0.17.13509.txz

Miroslav Lachman

 Thanks.
As these fail:
pkg search cad | grep -i free
pkg search CAD | grep -i free
pkg install FreeCAD-0.17.13509.txz
pkg install FreeCAD-0.17.13509
pkg install FreeCAD-0.17
pkg install FreeCAD-0
pkg install FreeCAD
& I am reaching the world with these 2 that produce the same
pkg search cad
pkg search CAD
&   pkg search exmh # exmh-2.8.0_1
pkg install exmh-2.8.0_1
ports/mail/exmh2/Makefile
PORTNAME=   exmh
PORTVERSION=2.8.0
PORTREVISION=   1
ports/cad/freecad/Makefile
PORTNAME=   FreeCAD
DISTVERSION=0.17.13509
 ***
Probably some packages are missing from the freebsd.org build system,  
as in

Subject: port x11-wm/icewm does not have a pkg?
These also fail
pkg search  icewm
pkg install icewm-1.3.8_3



What repository are you using?
Did you run pkg update -f?

The package is in official FreeBSD repo for 10 and 11:
http://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:10:amd64/latest/All/FreeCAD-0.17.13509.txz
http://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:11:amd64/latest/All/FreeCAD-0.17.13509.txz

Also in quaterly branch
http://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:10:amd64/quarterly/All/FreeCAD-0.17.12018_2.txz
http://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:11:amd64/quarterly/All/FreeCAD-0.17.12018_2.txz

pkg install FreeCAD shoul work. (I am not using official FreeBSD repo on  
any of our machines so I cannot test it now)


Miroslav Lachman



In the past we had portsmon which displayed if a port build or not.

http://portsmon.freebsd.org/portoverview.py?category=cad=freecad

But is in maintenance for a while now. The maintainer mailed me (about a  
month ago) it will be back in Q2 probably.


I don't know of a similar site with the data of the current pkg build  
system.


Cheers,
Ronald.
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Re: reccomendation for a building architecture schematic diagram editor ?

[Miroslav Lachman]

Julian H. Stacey wrote on 2018/05/03 14:54:

CC pruned, & 1 added as som thread commonality below ***

Miroslav Lachman wrote:

The cad/freecad port has PORTNAME= FreeCAD in the Makefile, so the
package name is FreeCAD-0.17.13509.txz

Miroslav Lachman


Thanks.
As these fail:
pkg search cad | grep -i free
pkg search CAD | grep -i free
pkg install FreeCAD-0.17.13509.txz
pkg install FreeCAD-0.17.13509
pkg install FreeCAD-0.17
pkg install FreeCAD-0
pkg install FreeCAD
& I am reaching the world with these 2 that produce the same
pkg search cad
pkg search CAD
&   pkg search exmh # exmh-2.8.0_1
pkg install exmh-2.8.0_1
ports/mail/exmh2/Makefile
PORTNAME=   exmh
PORTVERSION=2.8.0
PORTREVISION=   1
ports/cad/freecad/Makefile
PORTNAME=   FreeCAD
DISTVERSION=0.17.13509

***
Probably some packages are missing from the freebsd.org build system, as in
Subject: port x11-wm/icewm does not have a pkg?
These also fail
pkg search  icewm
pkg install icewm-1.3.8_3



What repository are you using?
Did you run pkg update -f?

The package is in official FreeBSD repo for 10 and 11:
http://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:10:amd64/latest/All/FreeCAD-0.17.13509.txz
http://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:11:amd64/latest/All/FreeCAD-0.17.13509.txz

Also in quaterly branch
http://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:10:amd64/quarterly/All/FreeCAD-0.17.12018_2.txz
http://pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD:11:amd64/quarterly/All/FreeCAD-0.17.12018_2.txz

pkg install FreeCAD shoul work. (I am not using official FreeBSD repo on 
any of our machines so I cannot test it now)


Miroslav Lachman
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Re: reccomendation for a building architecture schematic diagram editor ?

[Greg Byshenk]

On Thu, May 03, 2018 at 02:54:46PM +0200, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
> CC pruned, & 1 added as som thread commonality below ***
> 
> Miroslav Lachman wrote:
> > The cad/freecad port has PORTNAME= FreeCAD in the Makefile, so the 
> > package name is FreeCAD-0.17.13509.txz
> > 
> > Miroslav Lachman
> 
> Thanks.
> As these fail:
>   pkg search cad | grep -i free
>   pkg search CAD | grep -i free
>   pkg install FreeCAD-0.17.13509.txz
>   pkg install FreeCAD-0.17.13509
>   pkg install FreeCAD-0.17
>   pkg install FreeCAD-0
>   pkg install FreeCAD

For me the obvious things work:

# pkg search cad |grep -i free
FreeCAD-0.17.13509 General purpose 3D CAD modeller
# pkg search CAD | grep -i free
FreeCAD-0.17.13509 General purpose 3D CAD modeller
#

This on 10.4-STABLE from 23 March.

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Re: reccomendation for a building architecture schematic diagram editor ?

[Julian H. Stacey]

CC pruned, & 1 added as som thread commonality below ***

Miroslav Lachman wrote:
> The cad/freecad port has PORTNAME= FreeCAD in the Makefile, so the 
> package name is FreeCAD-0.17.13509.txz
> 
> Miroslav Lachman

Thanks.
As these fail:
pkg search cad | grep -i free
pkg search CAD | grep -i free
pkg install FreeCAD-0.17.13509.txz
pkg install FreeCAD-0.17.13509
pkg install FreeCAD-0.17
pkg install FreeCAD-0
pkg install FreeCAD
& I am reaching the world with these 2 that produce the same
pkg search cad
pkg search CAD
&   pkg search exmh # exmh-2.8.0_1
pkg install exmh-2.8.0_1
ports/mail/exmh2/Makefile
PORTNAME=   exmh
PORTVERSION=2.8.0
PORTREVISION=   1
ports/cad/freecad/Makefile
PORTNAME=   FreeCAD
DISTVERSION=0.17.13509

***
Probably some packages are missing from the freebsd.org build system, as in
Subject: port x11-wm/icewm does not have a pkg?
These also fail
pkg search  icewm
pkg install icewm-1.3.8_3

Cheers,
Julian
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Re: reccomendation for a building architecture schematic diagram editor ?

[Miroslav Lachman]

Julian H. Stacey wrote on 2018/05/03 13:31:


Yes please, I'll give it a try.

cad/sweethome3d :
Builds & starts OK, but first time I reloaded a saved file:
  "A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment"
I mailed Maintainer matth...@petermann-it.de to ask if he sees that.

/usr/ports/cad/freecad
Suggested by a non FreeBSD friend, make running, nothing from
pkg search cad | grep -i free


The cad/freecad port has PORTNAME= FreeCAD in the Makefile, so the 
package name is FreeCAD-0.17.13509.txz


Miroslav Lachman
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Re: reccomendation for a building architecture schematic diagram editor ?

[Julian H. Stacey]

blubee blubeeme wrote:
> On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 8:11 PM, Julian H. Stacey <j...@berklix.com> wrote:
> 
> > I wrote Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:21:20 +0200
> >
> > > Hi po...@freebsd.org people,
> > > Might any of you have a FreeBSD ports/ reccomendation for a building
> > > architecture schematic diagram editor, please ? To plan eg big house room
> > > layouts { furniture moves, building sale / rent} etc ?
> > >
> > > I'm not looking for professional architects or structural engineers
> > > tools to plan new buildings.  I'm not looking for millimetre precise
> > > kitchen layout programs if such exist, I'm just looking to produce
> > > the sort of plan one gets from estate agents, and on landlord/
> > > tenant rental contracts etc.
> > >
> > > I searched, but nothing from https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi
> > >
> > > Only port I can think of is xfig, which I've used for other things
> > >   https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/graphics/xfig/
> > > but wondering if something else more appropriate exists ?
> > >
> > > Looking for something to tart up my hand sketches & a raft of
> > > measurements hand written on them, taken from a laser measurer.
> > >
> > > I'm not looking to include a bluetooth professional laser measurer
> > > to PC/android data transfer, though they exist, I just bought a
> > > much cheaper simple laser measurer, & content to hand edit.
> >
> > Thanks to all respondents. Summary since:
> >
> > Probably best for my purpose
> >   /usr/ports/cad/sweethome3d
> > make package builds on 12.0-CURRENT & 9.2-RELEASE,
> > make package-recursive breaks, ** To be retried later.
> > Supports MS users & use live on web too.
> > http://www.sweethome3d.com
> > Mouse clicks can set to metric.
> >
> > Possibly:
> >   /usr/ports/cad/librecad
> > make install OK on 12.0-CURRENT & 9.2-RELEASE
> > make package failed on 12.0-CURRENT,
> > RUNNING unsetenv NOCLEANDEPENDS make clean make package-recursive
> > Mouse:
> >   Failed from 9.2-RELEASE X display host to remote 12.0-CURRENT
> > librecad
> >   host.  Mouse OK on 9.2-RELEASE with local screen & librecad.
> > http://librecad.org/
> > a free Open Source CAD application for Windows, Apple and Linux.
> > Supports MS users too
> >
> > Other Like Xfig, useable but perhaps not ideal for requirement :
> >   /usr/ports/graphics/xfig
> >
> >   /usr/ports/graphics/dia
> > make package OK on 12.0-CURRENT
> > No units to set to metric or imperial.
> >
> >   /usr/ports/graphics/tgif
> > make package OK
> > Like xfig.
> > Mouse switch to metric grid.
> >
> > Broken on my 12.0-CURRENT & 9.2-RELEASE hosts
> >   /usr/ports/cad/brlcad
> > http://www.brlcad.org/
> > On 9.2-RELEASE Running unsetenv NOCLEANDEPENDS; make clean; make
> >
> > No executable, Just libraries:
> >   /usr/ports/graphics/kdiagram
> > http://projects.kde.org/kdiagram
> >
> I forgot that cad/brlcad is broken in ports.
> 
> I have a semi working port where it installs in a {LOCALBASE}/brlcad dir
> and not in the typical install location.
> 
> If you'd like to try that let me know, it's a great piece of software but
> I've been too busy this year to actually do much work on computers.
> 
> Best,
> Owen

Yes please, I'll give it a try.

cad/sweethome3d :
Builds & starts OK, but first time I reloaded a saved file:
  "A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment"
I mailed Maintainer matth...@petermann-it.de to ask if he sees that.

/usr/ports/cad/freecad
Suggested by a non FreeBSD friend, make running, nothing from
pkg search cad | grep -i free 

Cheers,
Julian
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Re: reccomendation for a building architecture schematic diagram editor ?

[blubee blubeeme]

On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 8:11 PM, Julian H. Stacey <j...@berklix.com> wrote:

> I wrote Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:21:20 +0200
>
> > Hi po...@freebsd.org people,
> > Might any of you have a FreeBSD ports/ reccomendation for a building
> > architecture schematic diagram editor, please ? To plan eg big house room
> > layouts { furniture moves, building sale / rent} etc ?
> >
> > I'm not looking for professional architects or structural engineers
> > tools to plan new buildings.  I'm not looking for millimetre precise
> > kitchen layout programs if such exist, I'm just looking to produce
> > the sort of plan one gets from estate agents, and on landlord/
> > tenant rental contracts etc.
> >
> > I searched, but nothing from https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi
> >
> > Only port I can think of is xfig, which I've used for other things
> >   https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/graphics/xfig/
> > but wondering if something else more appropriate exists ?
> >
> > Looking for something to tart up my hand sketches & a raft of
> > measurements hand written on them, taken from a laser measurer.
> >
> > I'm not looking to include a bluetooth professional laser measurer
> > to PC/android data transfer, though they exist, I just bought a
> > much cheaper simple laser measurer, & content to hand edit.
>
> Thanks to all respondents. Summary since:
>
> Probably best for my purpose
>   /usr/ports/cad/sweethome3d
> make package builds on 12.0-CURRENT & 9.2-RELEASE,
> make package-recursive breaks, ** To be retried later.
> Supports MS users & use live on web too.
> http://www.sweethome3d.com
> Mouse clicks can set to metric.
>
> Possibly:
>   /usr/ports/cad/librecad
> make install OK on 12.0-CURRENT & 9.2-RELEASE
> make package failed on 12.0-CURRENT,
> RUNNING unsetenv NOCLEANDEPENDS make clean make package-recursive
> Mouse:
>   Failed from 9.2-RELEASE X display host to remote 12.0-CURRENT
> librecad
>   host.  Mouse OK on 9.2-RELEASE with local screen & librecad.
> http://librecad.org/
> a free Open Source CAD application for Windows, Apple and Linux.
> Supports MS users too
>
> Other Like Xfig, useable but perhaps not ideal for requirement :
>   /usr/ports/graphics/xfig
>
>   /usr/ports/graphics/dia
> make package OK on 12.0-CURRENT
> No units to set to metric or imperial.
>
>   /usr/ports/graphics/tgif
> make package OK
> Like xfig.
> Mouse switch to metric grid.
>
> Broken on my 12.0-CURRENT & 9.2-RELEASE hosts
>   /usr/ports/cad/brlcad
> http://www.brlcad.org/
> On 9.2-RELEASE Running unsetenv NOCLEANDEPENDS; make clean; make
>
> No executable, Just libraries:
>   /usr/ports/graphics/kdiagram
> http://projects.kde.org/kdiagram
>
> Cheers,
> Julian
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> Munich
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>  UK Govt. lied it's "democratic" in Article 50 letter to EU paragraph 3.
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>
I forgot that cad/brlcad is broken in ports.

I have a semi working port where it installs in a {LOCALBASE}/brlcad dir
and not in the typical install location.

If you'd like to try that let me know, it's a great piece of software but
I've been too busy this year to actually do much work on computers.

Best,
Owen
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Re: reccomendation for a building architecture schematic diagram editor ?

[Julian H. Stacey]

I wrote Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:21:20 +0200

> Hi po...@freebsd.org people,
> Might any of you have a FreeBSD ports/ reccomendation for a building
> architecture schematic diagram editor, please ? To plan eg big house room
> layouts { furniture moves, building sale / rent} etc ?
> 
> I'm not looking for professional architects or structural engineers
> tools to plan new buildings.  I'm not looking for millimetre precise
> kitchen layout programs if such exist, I'm just looking to produce
> the sort of plan one gets from estate agents, and on landlord/
> tenant rental contracts etc.
> 
> I searched, but nothing from https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi
> 
> Only port I can think of is xfig, which I've used for other things
>   https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/graphics/xfig/
> but wondering if something else more appropriate exists ?
> 
> Looking for something to tart up my hand sketches & a raft of
> measurements hand written on them, taken from a laser measurer.
> 
> I'm not looking to include a bluetooth professional laser measurer
> to PC/android data transfer, though they exist, I just bought a
> much cheaper simple laser measurer, & content to hand edit.

Thanks to all respondents. Summary since:

Probably best for my purpose 
  /usr/ports/cad/sweethome3d 
make package builds on 12.0-CURRENT & 9.2-RELEASE,
make package-recursive breaks, ** To be retried later.
Supports MS users & use live on web too.
http://www.sweethome3d.com
Mouse clicks can set to metric.

Possibly:
  /usr/ports/cad/librecad   
make install OK on 12.0-CURRENT & 9.2-RELEASE
make package failed on 12.0-CURRENT, 
RUNNING unsetenv NOCLEANDEPENDS make clean make package-recursive
Mouse:
  Failed from 9.2-RELEASE X display host to remote 12.0-CURRENT librecad 
  host.  Mouse OK on 9.2-RELEASE with local screen & librecad.
http://librecad.org/ 
a free Open Source CAD application for Windows, Apple and Linux.
Supports MS users too

Other Like Xfig, useable but perhaps not ideal for requirement :
  /usr/ports/graphics/xfig

  /usr/ports/graphics/dia 
make package OK on 12.0-CURRENT
No units to set to metric or imperial.

  /usr/ports/graphics/tgif 
make package OK
Like xfig. 
Mouse switch to metric grid.

Broken on my 12.0-CURRENT & 9.2-RELEASE hosts
  /usr/ports/cad/brlcad
http://www.brlcad.org/
On 9.2-RELEASE Running unsetenv NOCLEANDEPENDS; make clean; make 

No executable, Just libraries:
  /usr/ports/graphics/kdiagram 
http://projects.kde.org/kdiagram

Cheers,
Julian
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Re: reccomendation for a building architecture schematic diagram editor ?

[Don Lewis]

On 18 Apr, Julian H. Stacey wrote:
>> Might any of you have a FreeBSD ports/ reccomendation for a building
>> architecture schematic diagram editor, please ?
> 
> Thanks for all suggestions, I installed all to try, but about to
> travel so will be a few days before I try, I'll summarise to list
> with a few notes after I've tried them.

Another one that might be worth a look is librecad.  I haven't had a
chance to play with it yet, but I have a similar need.  In my case I
need to draw up a site plan for my lot showing my house and all of my
trees.

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Re: reccomendation for a building architecture schematic diagram editor ?

[Julian H. Stacey]

> Might any of you have a FreeBSD ports/ reccomendation for a building
> architecture schematic diagram editor, please ?

Thanks for all suggestions, I installed all to try, but about to
travel so will be a few days before I try, I'll summarise to list
with a few notes after I've tried them.

Cheers,
Julian
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Re: reccomendation for a building architecture schematic diagram editor ?

[blubee blubeeme]

You might try cad/brlcad


On Mon, Apr 16, 2018, 17:55 Julian Elischer  wrote:

> On 16/4/18 4:32 pm, Kurt Jaeger wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> >> Only port I can think of is xfig, which I've used for other things
> >>  https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/graphics/xfig/
> >> but wondering if something else more appropriate exists ?
> > If I did drawings in the past, I used xfig. graphics/dia is also
> > usable. Then there's kdiagram, but I never used it.
> >
> one of the oldest drawing tools ever, tgif ...
>
> I find it way better than some newer, fancier packages.
>
>
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Re: reccomendation for a building architecture schematic diagram editor ?

[Julian Elischer]

On 16/4/18 4:32 pm, Kurt Jaeger wrote:

Hi!


Only port I can think of is xfig, which I've used for other things
https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/graphics/xfig/
but wondering if something else more appropriate exists ?

If I did drawings in the past, I used xfig. graphics/dia is also
usable. Then there's kdiagram, but I never used it.


one of the oldest drawing tools ever, tgif ...

I find it way better than some newer, fancier packages.


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Re: reccomendation for a building architecture schematic diagram editor ?

[Tijl Coosemans]

On Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:21:20 +0200 "Julian H. Stacey" <j...@berklix.com> wrote:
> Hi po...@freebsd.org people,
> Might any of you have a FreeBSD ports/ reccomendation for a building
> architecture schematic diagram editor, please ? To plan eg big house room
> layouts { furniture moves, building sale / rent} etc ?
> 
> I'm not looking for professional architects or structural engineers
> tools to plan new buildings.  I'm not looking for millimetre precise
> kitchen layout programs if such exist, I'm just looking to produce
> the sort of plan one gets from estate agents, and on landlord/
> tenant rental contracts etc.
> 
> I searched, but nothing from https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi
> 
> Only port I can think of is xfig, which I've used for other things
>   https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/graphics/xfig/
> but wondering if something else more appropriate exists ?
> 
> Looking for something to tart up my hand sketches & a raft of
> measurements hand written on them, taken from a laser measurer.
> 
> I'm not looking to include a bluetooth professional laser measurer
> to PC/android data transfer, though they exist, I just bought a
> much cheaper simple laser measurer, & content to hand edit.

maybe cad/sweethome3d
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Re: reccomendation for a building architecture schematic diagram editor ?

[Kurt Jaeger]

Hi!

> Only port I can think of is xfig, which I've used for other things
>   https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/graphics/xfig/
> but wondering if something else more appropriate exists ?

If I did drawings in the past, I used xfig. graphics/dia is also
usable. Then there's kdiagram, but I never used it.

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reccomendation for a building architecture schematic diagram editor ?

[Julian H. Stacey]

Hi po...@freebsd.org people,
Might any of you have a FreeBSD ports/ reccomendation for a building
architecture schematic diagram editor, please ? To plan eg big house room
layouts { furniture moves, building sale / rent} etc ?

I'm not looking for professional architects or structural engineers
tools to plan new buildings.  I'm not looking for millimetre precise
kitchen layout programs if such exist, I'm just looking to produce
the sort of plan one gets from estate agents, and on landlord/
tenant rental contracts etc.

I searched, but nothing from https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi

Only port I can think of is xfig, which I've used for other things
https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/graphics/xfig/
but wondering if something else more appropriate exists ?

Looking for something to tart up my hand sketches & a raft of
measurements hand written on them, taken from a laser measurer.

I'm not looking to include a bluetooth professional laser measurer
to PC/android data transfer, though they exist, I just bought a
much cheaper simple laser measurer, & content to hand edit.

Cheers,
Julian
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