Re: using pkgdb

2008-03-29 Thread Parv
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 I'm using pkgdb because I wanted to try portupgrade, and it
 required it.

portupgrade does not require pkgdb.  pkgdb is part of portupgrade;
portupgrade installs pkgdb.


  - Parv

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Re: using pkgdb

2008-03-29 Thread Chuck Robey
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Parv wrote:
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 wrote Chuck Robey thusly...
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 I'm using pkgdb because I wanted to try portupgrade, and it
 required it.
 
 portupgrade does not require pkgdb.  pkgdb is part of portupgrade;
 portupgrade installs pkgdb.

I don't doubt that, but portupgrade itself tossed out the instruction to me to
run pkgdb -F, to fix something (I don't know what).  I didn't just want to run
something which has such a confusing man page.  I ran it under instructions, and
now it's asking me questions which I can't figure out the effects of any of the
offered actions will be.

Everyone seems to want to toss me hazy hints instead of what those options
actually accomplish; I'm beginning to think that the only folks who are
answering are the folks who don't really know the answer.

 
 
   - Parv
 

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Fwd: using pkgdb

2008-03-29 Thread Garrett Cooper
On Sat, Mar 29, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Parv wrote:
  in message [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  wrote Chuck Robey thusly...
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  I'm using pkgdb because I wanted to try portupgrade, and it
  required it.
 
  portupgrade does not require pkgdb.  pkgdb is part of portupgrade;
  portupgrade installs pkgdb.

 I don't doubt that, but portupgrade itself tossed out the instruction to
 me to
 run pkgdb -F, to fix something (I don't know what).  I didn't just want to
 run
 something which has such a confusing man page.  I ran it under
 instructions, and
 now it's asking me questions which I can't figure out the effects of any
 of the
 offered actions will be.

 Everyone seems to want to toss me hazy hints instead of what those options
 actually accomplish; I'm beginning to think that the only folks who are
 answering are the folks who don't really know the answer.

 
 
- Parv
 


y = yes, I want the stale dependency to map to the proposed one.
n = no, that proposed replacement is pure poppycock.
a = who knows... [the Ruby code doesn't make sense for my virgin eyes -- I
only do shell scripts, Perl, and some TCL :)..]

The line of referring to is /usr/local/sbin/pkgdb:646.

-Garrett
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Re: using pkgdb

2008-03-29 Thread Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH


On Mar 29, 2008, at 16:13 , Garrett Cooper wrote:

y = yes, I want the stale dependency to map to the proposed one.
n = no, that proposed replacement is pure poppycock.
a = who knows... [the Ruby code doesn't make sense for my virgin  
eyes -- I

only do shell scripts, Perl, and some TCL :)..]


a = if you see the same stale dependency anywhere else, fix it the  
same way instead of asking me again


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Re: using pkgdb

2008-03-28 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm using pkgdb because I wanted to try portupgrade, and it required it.  My
 problem is that it's doing procedures, asking for a decision on my part, but I
 can't make any guess how to answer it, because the prompt is fairly 
 meaningless
 to  me.  Here is an example of what I'm seeing:

 Stale dependency: someportname-1.1.1 - differentportname-1.1.1 
 (differentportname):
 3rdportname-1.1.1 ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]

To me, this is fairly self-explanatory.  someportname is listed as
depending on differentportname, but differentportname isn't
installed.  It suggests that 3rdportname be listed as a dependency
instead, on the theory that 3rdportname may be providing the
functionality that someportname actually depends on. 

Your choices are y to accept that suggestion, n to refuse it, and
a to accept it and also apply it to all other ports that depend on
differentportname.

 I haven't the least idea what the Y/N/A is referring to, what sort of action I
 am causing or allowing.  I tried the man page on pkgdb, but I didn't see that
 sort of message in that page.  Sure hope you can give me a hint (and, as a 
 hint,
 this might be a good time to fix that fairly useless prompt).

Apparently, but you would have to make a concrete suggestion to the
program's author.  Since it makes sense to me, I doubt any attempts I
made for improvements would turn out to actually be better.

Be well.
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Re: using pkgdb

2008-03-28 Thread Chuck Robey
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Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 I'm using pkgdb because I wanted to try portupgrade, and it required it.  My
 problem is that it's doing procedures, asking for a decision on my part, but 
 I
 can't make any guess how to answer it, because the prompt is fairly 
 meaningless
 to  me.  Here is an example of what I'm seeing:

 Stale dependency: someportname-1.1.1 - differentportname-1.1.1 
 (differentportname):
 3rdportname-1.1.1 ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]
 
 To me, this is fairly self-explanatory.  someportname is listed as
 depending on differentportname, but differentportname isn't
 installed.  It suggests that 3rdportname be listed as a dependency
 instead, on the theory that 3rdportname may be providing the
 functionality that someportname actually depends on. 
 
 Your choices are y to accept that suggestion, n to refuse it, and
 a to accept it and also apply it to all other ports that depend on
 differentportname.
 

Unfortunately, you didn't tell me what the Y/N/A meant either.  First, thing,
your estimate of what it means isn't obvious to ME (I'm writing this as some
prank), my own guess would have been that the word stale would refer to
something that's still hanging around.  Irregardless, I can't get any hint
whatsoever if Y means to do some deleting somewhere; for the deletion, I have no
guess if it's going to delete the first or second file reference.

If you think I'm dumb and just want to be insulting, then just tell me what
actual action the Y refers to, so I get something useable out of this, then go
ahead and talk about me.  I'm honestly confused about it, and wouldn't be
writing this if I weren't.

 I haven't the least idea what the Y/N/A is referring to, what sort of action 
 I
 am causing or allowing.  I tried the man page on pkgdb, but I didn't see that
 sort of message in that page.  Sure hope you can give me a hint (and, as a 
 hint,
 this might be a good time to fix that fairly useless prompt).
 
 Apparently, but you would have to make a concrete suggestion to the
 program's author.  Since it makes sense to me, I doubt any attempts I
 made for improvements would turn out to actually be better.
 
 Be well.

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Re: using pkgdb

2008-03-28 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Chuck Robey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 3rdportname-1.1.1 ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]
  ^ ^^

 Unfortunately, you didn't tell me what the Y/N/A meant either.
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using pkgdb

2008-03-27 Thread Chuck Robey
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I'm using pkgdb because I wanted to try portupgrade, and it required it.  My
problem is that it's doing procedures, asking for a decision on my part, but I
can't make any guess how to answer it, because the prompt is fairly meaningless
to  me.  Here is an example of what I'm seeing:

Stale dependency: someportname-1.1.1 - differentportname-1.1.1 
(differentportname):
3rdportname-1.1.1 ? ([y]es/[n]o/[a]ll) [yes]

I haven't the least idea what the Y/N/A is referring to, what sort of action I
am causing or allowing.  I tried the man page on pkgdb, but I didn't see that
sort of message in that page.  Sure hope you can give me a hint (and, as a hint,
this might be a good time to fix that fairly useless prompt).
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