Re: Apache2 and UserDir in FreeBSD

2004-06-17 Thread Jez Hancock
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 03:16:50PM -0400, Duane Winner wrote:
 
 Does anybody know why this is happening:
 
 I have found that with apache2, installed via portinstall on both 4.9 
 and 5.x, the UserDir is enabled even if it is commented out in httpd.conf!
 
 It is on by default in the stock httpd.conf that installs with apache2. 
 If I comment it out and restart, I have found that users can still 
 create public_html directories in their home directories, and publish 
 content.

I found this odd as well on apache13 a while ago. UserDir is enabled by
default for apache13 and will only be 'disabled' if you set it
disabled explicitly in httpd.conf:

UserDir disabled

Otherwise, ~/public_html 
Otherwise the httpd will serve up requests for:

http://example.com/~user/

 from:

~user/public_html

on the local file system.

 Why is this happening?

I presume it happens because apache is built with defaults set so that 
UserDir is enabled by default.  If you don't want UserDir enabled,
probably the easiest thing to do is just disable it as above.  


Good luck.


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Re: Mail

2004-06-17 Thread Geert Hendrickx
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 04:53:05PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 10:03:05AM -0400, Mark Frank typed:
  * On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 05:40:33AM -0500 Jason Dusek wrote:
   Hi,
   
   I am having a lot of trouble setting up mail. And, perhaps more 
   importantly, I am having a lot of trouble figuring what software to 
   set-up. Sendmail is standard but buggy, so I imagine that Postfix is a 
   better choice.
  
  Just curious.  What sendmail bugs are you referring?  Have you reported
  them to sendmail.org?
 
 Probably just hear-say. There's so much bad-mouthing sendmail! Most of
 it by people who got lost in sendmail's many configuration options, but
 instead of reading some docs they drop it, telling everybody they should
 avoid sendmail at all cost.
 
 Too bad, 'cause to me and many others sendmail is one of the most 
 reliable and compliant MTA's in existance today. And there hasn't been
 a major security problem in years.
 
 just .02 euro.

From what I have heard and read...  sendmail indeed has a serious history of 
security-issues (as it was not initially designed for the Internet as we know it 
today), but has had a major code cleanup a while ago, and doesn't run SUID anymore, 
so it should be much more secure now.  

Anyway, Postfix has been developed as a security-enhanced but compatible alternative 
to sendmail.  And as someone else mentioned already, its configuration is indeed quite 
straightforward.  

Personally, I would use sendmail on end-user machines (e.g. for use with fetchmail) 
because it's in the base system, but Postfix for mailservers with more complex 
configuration or security-concerns.  

Btw, can anyone of the sendmail-guru's tell me how sendmail compares performancewise?  

GH
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Apache config error log

2004-06-17 Thread Lee Ellis
The error log is as follows:

[Sun Jun 13 18:18:32 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: getaddrinfo failed for 
Ginger.Osoleon (hostname nor servname provided, or not known)
[Mon Jun 14 03:15:48 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: getaddrinfo failed for 
Ginger.Osoleon (hostname nor servname provided, or not known)
[Mon Jun 14 03:50:54 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: getaddrinfo failed for 
Ginger.Osoleon (hostname nor servname provided, or not known)
[Mon Jun 14 04:22:56 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: getaddrinfo failed for 
Ginger.Osoleon (hostname nor servname provided, or not known)
[Mon Jun 14 04:27:19 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: getaddrinfo failed for 
Ginger.Osoleon (hostname nor servname provided, or not known)
[Mon Jun 14 04:53:41 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to 
gethostbyname(Ginger.Osoleon)
[Tue Jun 15 17:19:21 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to 
gethostbyname(Ginger.Osoleon)
[Tue Jun 15 17:23:58 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to 
gethostbyname(Ginger.Osoleon)
[Tue Jun 15 17:28:40 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to 
gethostbyname(Ginger.Osoleon)
[Tue Jun 15 17:41:51 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to 
gethostbyname(Ginger.Osoleon)
[Tue Jun 15 19:38:21 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to 
gethostbyname(Ginger.Osoleon)
[Wed Jun 16 00:10:54 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to 
gethostbyname(Ginger.Osoleon)
[Wed Jun 16 00:30:11 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to 
gethostbyname(Ginger.Osoleon)
[Wed Jun 16 00:35:56 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to 
gethostbyname(.Ginger)
[Wed Jun 16 00:36:42 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to 
gethostbyname(.Ginger)
[Wed Jun 16 03:53:01 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to 
gethostbyname(.Ginger)
[Wed Jun 16 03:57:06 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to 
gethostbyname(.Ginger)
[Wed Jun 16 03:57:56 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to 
gethostbyname(.Ginger)
[Wed Jun 16 03:59:52 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to 
gethostbyname(.Ginger)
[Wed Jun 16 21:51:41 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to 
gethostbyname(.Ginger)
[Wed Jun 16 21:52:31 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to 
gethostbyname(.Ginger)
[Wed Jun 16 21:56:58 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to 
gethostbyname(.Ginger)
[Wed Jun 16 21:59:52 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to 
gethostbyname(.Ginger)
[Wed Jun 16 22:35:32 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to 
gethostbyname(.Ginger)

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Does 4.x + UFS2 exist in any way ?

2004-06-17 Thread Joe Schmoe
I need to run 4.x (currently 4.10-RELEASE) but I really want to use UFS2 because I 
also need larger files and filesystems, and I really want to use snapshots.
 
Is UFS2 available on 4.10 ?  If not, how big of a hack would it be to try to use UFS2 
with 4.10-RELEASE ?
 
thanks.


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Re: Apache config error log

2004-06-17 Thread Kjell Midtseter
On 17 Jun 2004 at 0:29, Lee Ellis wrote:

 The error log is as follows:
 
 [Sun Jun 13 18:18:32 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: getaddrinfo failed
 for Ginger.Osoleon (hostname nor servname provided, or not known)

 [Mon Jun 14 04:53:41 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to
 gethostbyname(Ginger.Osoleon) [Tue Jun 15 17:19:21 2004] [alert]
 mod_unique_id: unable to gethostbyname(Ginger.Osoleon) [Tue Jun 15
 17:23:58 2004] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to
 gethostbyname(Ginger.Osoleon) [Tue Jun 15 17:28:40 2004] [alert]
 mod_unique_id: unable to gethostbyname(Ginger.Osoleon) [Tue Jun 15

Seems like the ServerName you selected is unknown to the DNS system. 
Maybe the answer to your question is in the comments to the ServerName definition in 
httpd.conf
  # If your host doesn't have a registered DNS name, enter its IP address here.
Otherwise if you prefer to use your invented host name, you may try to set up a 
local 
DNS server that will resolve it for you.
- Kjell

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Re: Does 4.x + UFS2 exist in any way ?

2004-06-17 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 11:41:31PM -0700, Joe Schmoe wrote:
 I need to run 4.x (currently 4.10-RELEASE) but I really want to use UFS2 because I 
 also need larger files and filesystems, and I really want to use snapshots.
  
 Is UFS2 available on 4.10 ?

No.

  If not, how big of a hack would it be to try to use UFS2 with 4.10-RELEASE ?

A big one.

Kris


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4.10 Promise TX4 at Intel S875WP1-E motherboard - no disks?

2004-06-17 Thread astesin
Hello people,

After having some trouble with CURRENT on this box (P4 3.0E, note `E' on
Intel S875WP1-E motherboard, the modification with Promise SATA RAID in 0+1
setup, 4 SATA disks) due to development issues,

I decided to install 4.10 on it - the box needs to go into production really
soon and will stay in pretty much unattended mode in a datacenter.

Strange enough, 4.10 wasn't able to see RAID array on Promise, sysinstall
told me that there are no disks. Looking at kernel boot messages confirmed
this: there is no ar0 device. (???)

Any suggestions on how do I install STABLE on this box? What ATA driver do I
need in the distribution in order to get the thing working?

Thanks,
Andrew
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Re: Apache config error log

2004-06-17 Thread LW Ellis
OK seems now I am really confused.
Apparently I do not have my network (card) set up right.
When I configure my network card.
There are the following items
Host:
Domain
IPv4 Gateway:
nameserver:
Configuration for interface x10
IPv4 Address
Netmask
Extra options

What I have is 
Host Ginger (made up)
Domain (blank)
IPv4 Gateway blank
Name server 192.168.0.1 (router)
Config for x10
IPv4 Address 192.168.0.3 (assigned by the router)
netmask : 0xff00
Extra blank

The router has the mac address as 00:03:6d:14:08:df
I just want to set up a server accesable by my local network.
Where do I go from here.
I looked at the rc.conf file and it shows I am running 'named' server.
Do I need to configure this.
I've got The Complete FreeBSD by Greg Lehey
which is helping a great deal, but I have been playing with 
Unix for about a week and half now.
Sorry to say I am a windows guy.


  Seems like the ServerName you selected is unknown to the DNS system. 
  Maybe the answer to your question is in the comments to the ServerName definition in 
httpd.conf
# If your host doesn't have a registered DNS name, enter its IP address here.
  Otherwise if you prefer to use your invented host name, you may try to set up a 
local DNS server that will resolve it for you.
  - Kjell
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ATA Tape drives - 5.2.1

2004-06-17 Thread raymond

Is there anyone out there successfully using an ATA tape drive
(with or without ATAPICAM).  I am having all sorts of problems
and would appreciate a hand.

Thanks


Ray Newman
17 Jun 2004
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Re: Password not requested

2004-06-17 Thread Jan Muenther
Ahoi there,

 I have a slight problem that I cannot figure out.  I used cvsup and did 
 buildworld, etc...  When i finished I am no longer asked to supply a 
 password when logging on with any user (tried 3 accounts).

did you run mergemaster? My guess would be you f*cked up your PAM config. 


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Problem while upgrading to 4.10 from 4.7...

2004-06-17 Thread Timothy Gagnon
Alright, I have been trying to upgrade FreeBSD from 4.7 to 4.10...I used
cvsup to get all the files make buildworld when through just fine, but
the problem comes after make kernel KERNCONF=GENERIC...

When I reboot and the kernel starts to load...it *always* just stops at
the same point and just sits there doing nothing at acd1: CD-RW My CD-RW
info at ata1-slave PIO4...

If I restart and run kernel.GENERIC from the boot prompt I can get it to
load the kernel, but I want to be able to go into single-user mode to
mount the file system, plus I just don't like having things acting screwy.

Anyone have any advice for me?

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problem compiling php4 with gd

2004-06-17 Thread Ivan Carey
Hello
I am using FreeBSD 4.7 and have updated my ports tree.
I am having a problem with making php4.3.7 with gd 2.0.25.
I have installed gd first
 
The compilation of php stops with the following:
/usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.7/ext/gd/libgd/gdft.c: In function
`gdImageStringFTEx':
/usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.7/ext/gd/libgd/gdft.c:988:
`FT_ENCODING_MS_SYMBOL' undeclared (first use in this function)
/usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.7/ext/gd/libgd/gdft.c:988: (Each
undeclared identifier is reported only once
/usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.7/ext/gd/libgd/gdft.c:988: for each
function it appears in.)
*** Error code 1
 
Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.7.
*** Error code 1
 
Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php4.
*** Error code 1

Is there a problem with these ports and how may I correct this problem
 
Thank you,
Ivan
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Suggestions for replacements for vanilla ftpd?

2004-06-17 Thread Andy Holyer

I'm setting up our main customer web server: as a check-box feature, 
every customer gets 10Mb of free web space on our server. I'm very keen 
that I keep customer and user accounts on the server firmly separate, 
so that means that vanilla ftpd needs replacing.

What are people's favourites out of the 20 or so in ports? From my own 
survey PureFTPd seems favourite, but I thought it couldn't hurt to ask. 
Basically my desiderata are:
No using /etc/passwd for client stuff;
Enforced chrooting
Performance not actually that important, since there's ony 100 or so 
accounts.

I've curerently got user auth data handled by sasl, if that's important.
5.2.1 Release kernel.
On a related note, a web interface to allow customers to update their 
pages would be nice. CPanel is gross overkill, and too expensive for my 
Boss's wallet. Does a simpler tool exist, before I start writing my 
own?

Thanks in advance for any advice.
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New user questions :)

2004-06-17 Thread Graham Bentley


Hello to all you FreeBSD guys (and girls:)

I am new here and have some questions to ask and comments to invite.

For the last year or so I have been using SME server (an optimised Linux 
based server / LAN server that provides in one distro Mail/Webmail/FTP/
HTTP/Samba - all configurable from a Web browser on the LAN)

This has proved very quick to install / deploy but since it has been 'handed
over' to the community by the commercial company that sponsored the
project updates have been very slow. Of course you can pay $ if you
want the commercial version :)

If I needed just an FTP server or a Webserver I have used Trustix Linux
which seems very elegant / secure / minimal distro which is well maintained
and easy to update. Everything is off (almost) unless you explicitly
configure 
it. This seemed like a breath of fresh air compared to other Linux distros
which 
installed all but the kitchen sink (or you spent alot of time picking over
packages)

I recently found out that the company selling the commercial version of
Trustix
is going to cease support of the community version and to get updates
/ security fixes you have to pay $.

This seems fair enough and its a good distro. Some of my clients may want to
pay for the reassurance of the backing of a commercial company.

I however do not and only want some web services for my small co.

So, I start to look for a distro that  has a community roadmap that doesnt end
in me paying for just the few things that I need. I am aware of Debian and
have been told that it is secure / easy to update and people talk about it
as the most 'pure version' of Linux. As yet I have not had chance to DL it
or review it.

In the meantime I decided to try FreeBSD and am dual booting into
5.2.1 as an alternative desktop. I have to say that some things seem
alot easier than in the Linux world whilst others issues have seemed
difficult to resolve (MIDI Sound for example:) but these are minor desktop
issues that I dont really care too much about.

What I am interested in is replicating LAN / Web services that I
have learnt to configre under Linux on FreeBSD.

Heres my immediate shortlist :-

Setting up DHCP for LAN Clients
Synchronising time for LAN Clients
Setting up Samba to Share Files on a Wingroup
Setting up a print server for Winclients
Using Samba as a Virtual CD-ROM Server
Web Services (Apache / FTP)
Admin access over ssh
LAN Mail Hub (Postifx / Fetchmail?)
Checking for security / software updates
and updatig the system

I am sure some of these tasks are fairly easy and very similar
to that in the Linux world although I would welcome any advice / comments.

I also wondered if there is a project based on FreeBSD that
achieves similar goals to SME Server (ie all in one LAN server
with Web config) or similar to Trustix (ie minimal config with
series of scripts to configure server services.

I would also welcome comments on FreeBSD security / frequency of updates
and how to keep the installation updated ?

Also, what is the roadmap / lifespan of FreeBSD ?

Sorry about the length of this post :)



































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Re: New user questions :)

2004-06-17 Thread Jorn Argelo
Graham Bentley wrote:
[snip]
Install the ports tree, use CVSUP to get the latest version of the ports 
tree (if you don't know how to do that, go to the FreeBSD website and 
search the handbook)

Heres my immediate shortlist :-
Setting up DHCP for LAN Clients
 

cd /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server  make all install clean
Last time I played with DHCP I didn't had too much success, but I was 
still a complete *nix newbie back then. Ever since I'm just using the 
DHCP server of my router.

Synchronising time for LAN Clients
 

No idea how to do that. Probably setting up an NTP server, and get some 
Windows software to sync the system time with an NTP server.

Setting up Samba to Share Files on a Wingroup
 

cd /usr/ports/net/samba  make all install clean
Setting up a print server for Winclients
 

cd /usr/ports/print/cups  make all install clean
Do note that the configuration of cups can be bit tricky. I never got 
cups fully up and running.

Using Samba as a Virtual CD-ROM Server
 

I suppose that is just a matter of configuring Samba.
Web Services (Apache / FTP)
 

cd /usr/ports/www/apache(2)  make all install clean
If you want to build apache2 then type apache2 instead of apache.
cd /usr/ports/ftp/proftpd
Admin access over ssh
 

Standard included during a FreeBSD installation. Do note that root 
doesn't automatically has access to the SSH server.

LAN Mail Hub (Postifx / Fetchmail?)
 

Sendmail is standard installed during an FreeBSD installation. Though 
you can always build Postfix or Fetchmail if you prefer.

Checking for security / software updates
 

Suscribe to the freebsd-announce mailing list
and updatig the system
 

It is all described in the e-mail from freebsd-annnounce how and when to 
update your system with the proper patch.

I am sure some of these tasks are fairly easy and very similar
to that in the Linux world although I would welcome any advice / comments.
 

As long as you're comfortable with the configurations of the services 
you require, then there is not really a problem. FreeBSD has proven 
itself to be a robust and stable system in critical production 
enviroments. It's no wonder why every service from Yahoo runs on FreeBSD 
(except for launch.com, but that's no wonder)

I also wondered if there is a project based on FreeBSD that
achieves similar goals to SME Server (ie all in one LAN server
with Web config) or similar to Trustix (ie minimal config with
series of scripts to configure server services.
 

Not that I know of. Just build things from the ports tree.
I would also welcome comments on FreeBSD security / frequency of updates
and how to keep the installation updated ?
 

See my above mentioned note about freebsd-announce
Also, what is the roadmap / lifespan of FreeBSD ?
 

It's still in active development, and the developers are still steadily 
coding on FreeBSD. Do keep in mind that FreeBSD is not a company; it's a 
project where programmers are participating on from all over the world. 
Which is a good thing of course, since you can get one of the best OSs 
out there for free :)

Sorry about the length of this post :)
 

No worries, I hope I gave you the information you were seeking.
Cheers,
Jorn
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Re: Compiling only the base system?

2004-06-17 Thread Cordula's Web
how can I compile just the base system (sysinstall's minimal install)
from CURRENT sources in /usr/src into DESTDIR=/some/nonstandard/path?
 
  There is certainly some magic in .mk files to do this. I'm just
  too blind to find it...
 
 If you're running -current, check the /usr/src/tools/tools/nanobsd 
 directory. There's also some discussion on this in the archives.

Ah yes. Tweaking make.conf variables like this generates a useable
object tree!

Thanks for all the help,

-cpghost.

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USB Modem Fun

2004-06-17 Thread Edd

Hi,
I have recently required a USB modem (56k). On the casing it says it is a:
sitecom connectivity dc-009 56k usb modem

Plug in and dmesg says:
ugen0: Conexant USB modemInc. USB V.90 56k/FAX Modem erface,
rev1.00/0.01, addr 2

So far so good. So i scoot over to /etc/ppp/ppp.conf and type in
/dev/ugen0 for the device.

Then do a :
ppp papchap
dial

Nothing happens and dmesg now says: ugenpoll: no edesc

Whats all this about then?

Thanks!
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Re: Mail

2004-06-17 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 05:36:49PM +0200, Geert Hendrickx wrote:

 Btw, can anyone of the sendmail-guru's tell me how sendmail compares 
 performancewise?  

It's not a stellar performer, but it does the job.  Configuration may
be a black art, but with sendmail there will always be some
incantation that can get it to deal with whatever weird e-mail setup
you can imagine.

For a high traffic mailserver, I'd probably go with postfix.

Cheers,

Matthew

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problem compiling php4 with gd

2004-06-17 Thread Ivan Carey
Hello
I am using FreeBSD 4.7 and have updated my ports tree.
I am having a problem with making php4.3.7 with gd 2.0.25.
I have installed gd first
 
The compilation of php stops with the following:
/usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.7/ext/gd/libgd/gdft.c: In function
`gdImageStringFTEx':
/usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.7/ext/gd/libgd/gdft.c:988:
`FT_ENCODING_MS_SYMBOL' undeclared (first use in this function)
/usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.7/ext/gd/libgd/gdft.c:988: (Each
undeclared identifier is reported only once
/usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.7/ext/gd/libgd/gdft.c:988: for each
function it appears in.)
*** Error code 1
 
Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php4/work/php-4.3.7.
*** Error code 1
 
Stop in /usr/ports/lang/php4.
*** Error code 1

Is there a problem with these ports and how may I correct this problem
 
Thank you,
Ivan 
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Re: USB Modem Fun

2004-06-17 Thread Jan Muenther
Hi there,

 Plug in and dmesg says:
 ugen0: Conexant USB modemInc. USB V.90 56k/FAX Modem erface,
 rev1.00/0.01, addr 2
 
 So far so good. So i scoot over to /etc/ppp/ppp.conf and type in
 /dev/ugen0 for the device.


ugen(4) is the generic USB device driver, meaning this gets assigned when 
no other driver for the USB device can apply. You won't be able to use your
USB modem through the driver, you'll need umodem(4) and ucom(4) support in 
either your kernel or load the modules. 

Cheers, J.
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Re: [going OT] Re: Pruning the Ports Tree

2004-06-17 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 08:36:18AM +0400, Sergey Zaharchenko wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 08:32:49PM -0600,
  Dan MacMillan probably wrote:
  From: Sergey Zaharchenko at June 16, 2004 06:18
  
   On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 11:38:38AM +0100,
Matthew Seaman probably wrote:
  
Heh.  There's nothing to worry about -- I don't own or use any Windows
boxes, so there's no chance of picking up a worm from my e-mails.
  
   However, this won't save you from picking up a worm which has forged its
   mail's `From' address to be [EMAIL PROTECTED], or any other
   address... so unless you change your OS and/or mailer to something more
   secure, it's still a good idea to stay alert.
  
  On the other hand, the fact that Matthew signs all his email means we always
  know who to blame.  :)

More to the point, you know that if it's signed by my key, it's from
me, even if I do occasionally slip up and use the work e-mail address
when I should be using my personal one (Bad mutt! No biscuit!)
 
 Sure --- but his signatures mean nothing to Graham as long as he uses
 Outlook, which was the original problem :)

Unless, of course he has visited http://www.pgpi.org/ and downloaded
one of the free Windows version of PGPi which includes a plugin for
Outlook:

http://www.pgpi.org/cgi/download.cgi?filename=PGPFW658Win32.zip

Although it seems that PGP Corp have decided that the latest versions
of their software will only include the e-mail plugin in the pay-for
variant.  Dunno if that software will work with WinXP either.  But
thems the breaks when you use commercial OSes.

Cheers,

Matthew

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probably a silly question. probably requires a silly answer.

2004-06-17 Thread Edd

Is it a bad idea to use a 5.x kernel on a 4.x system?
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Re: probably a silly question. probably requires a silly answer.

2004-06-17 Thread Simon Dick
Very

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:04:37 +0100, Edd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Is it a bad idea to use a 5.x kernel on a 4.x system?
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which version?

2004-06-17 Thread stanisaw gsior
hi
which version will be good to my comp.plizz help me.


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newbie trouble - Internet problem solved!!!

2004-06-17 Thread jobse
Thanx
Steve Bertrand
Michael Clark
Remko Lodder
I now have Internet up and working.
Next problem is to learn handling the ports!
cheers
jobse
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Re: Re: Your website

2004-06-17 Thread webmaster
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Re: probably a silly question. probably requires a silly answer.

2004-06-17 Thread Simon Barner
Edd wrote:
 
 Is it a bad idea to use a 5.x kernel on a 4.x system?

It won't work at all, because FreeBSD 5.x and 4.x have substantial
differences.

It isn't even recommented to upgrade the kernel only on a FreeBSD
system, because kernel and userland have to be in sync. This is because
programms like `ps', and `ls', etc. share data type definitions with the
kernel, that might change.

Simon


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Re: New user questions :)

2004-06-17 Thread Bill Moran
Graham Bentley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hello to all you FreeBSD guys (and girls:)

There are girsl on this mailing list?! ... (fixes hair ...)

snip

 Heres my immediate shortlist :-
 
 Setting up DHCP for LAN Clients
 Synchronising time for LAN Clients
 Setting up Samba to Share Files on a Wingroup
 Setting up a print server for Winclients
 Using Samba as a Virtual CD-ROM Server
 Web Services (Apache / FTP)
 Admin access over ssh
 LAN Mail Hub (Postifx / Fetchmail?)
 Checking for security / software updates

In addition to what's been said before, install portaudit and use portupgrade
when it tells you there are problems ... very nice!

 I also wondered if there is a project based on FreeBSD that
 achieves similar goals to SME Server (ie all in one LAN server
 with Web config) or similar to Trustix (ie minimal config with
 series of scripts to configure server services.

Not that I know of, but it sure would be a nice project, huh?

 I would also welcome comments on FreeBSD security / frequency of updates
 and how to keep the installation updated ?

Subscribe to FreeBSD-security@ and update when the alerts on that list tell you.
Use portaudit for ports.

 Also, what is the roadmap / lifespan of FreeBSD ?

http://www.freebsd.org/security/index.html#adv ... best reference I know of.

 Sorry about the length of this post :)

The only problem I had was the length of blank space at the end of it ... ;)

-- 
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Re: newbie trouble - Internet problem solved!!!

2004-06-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
 I now have Internet up and working.

Great! One less mass mailing drone on the Inet! :o)

 Next problem is to learn handling the ports!


Ask away...

Steve

 cheers
 jobse

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Re: which version?

2004-06-17 Thread Bill Moran
stanis³aw g±sior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi
 which version will be good to my comp.plizz help me.

Check this:
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/4.10R/hardware.html

If your hardware is listed, then 4.10 is the way to go.

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Re: Problem while upgrading to 4.10 from 4.7...

2004-06-17 Thread Bill Moran
Timothy Gagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Alright, I have been trying to upgrade FreeBSD from 4.7 to 4.10...I used
 cvsup to get all the files make buildworld when through just fine, but
 the problem comes after make kernel KERNCONF=GENERIC...

If you did, literally, what you describe, then your problem is that you
upgraded improperly.

make buildworld builds world, but doesn't install it.  make kernel makes
and installs the kernel.  If you did the steps you describe, then you have
a kernel and a world with mistmatched versions.

If that's the case, get booted into the system and re-run the upgrade process.
Be sure to do all the steps this time, as described in 21.4.1:
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html

 When I reboot and the kernel starts to load...it *always* just stops at
 the same point and just sits there doing nothing at acd1: CD-RW My CD-RW
 info at ata1-slave PIO4...
 
 If I restart and run kernel.GENERIC from the boot prompt I can get it to
 load the kernel, but I want to be able to go into single-user mode to
 mount the file system, plus I just don't like having things acting screwy.

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Means of traversing a directory

2004-06-17 Thread Gerard Samuel
For a shell script.
The scenario.
Im running tar(1) to make a tar ball of a directory using the 
--newer-mtime to only get newer files after a specified date.
Unfortunately, it also creates unwanted empty directories.
Is there a way to scan the directory (recursively) into an array, and loop 
over it, in a script?

Thanks
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Re: firefox not launching since upgrade to 0.9_1

2004-06-17 Thread Richard Tobin
 # firefox -- we no longer need to launch 1st time as root, but...
 (firefox-bin:87415): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:  

Presumably you don't have DISPLAY set when you're running as root.

  firefox
 *** loading the extensions datasource
 *** loading the extensions datasource
 *** loading the extensions datasource

I have the same problem, but with an extra message:

LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library 
/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so 
[/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so: Undefined symbol 
_vt$16nsQueryInterface]
*** loading the extensions datasource
LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library 
/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so 
[/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so: Undefined symbol 
_vt$16nsQueryInterface]
*** loading the extensions datasource

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Re: New user questions :)

2004-06-17 Thread Jorn Argelo
Graham Bentley wrote:
Thanks for that Jorn :)
I am still elarning (guess I'll never stop :)
I did a minimal config of FreeBSD and wanted
to use Midnight Commander
(I know this isnt that secure and its a bit of a crutch
but its good for noobs like me)
Anyway, there was 7 porgs missing all of which
DL'ed and compiled but it took 35 minutes !!!
 

I suppose you don't want to compile KDE or OpenOffice.org from source 
then. KDE took me roughly ten hours and OpenOffice.org roughly twelve 
hours, including the java installation. *grin*

Is it possible to install just the binary (stoopid
question if that binary needs libs / other progs
to be installed first :)
 

You can install packages, yes. Just use the pkg_add command. However, I 
believe that the wonder of Open Source is that we compile the source 
code ourselves. If you're a fan of packages and RPMs, then you might as 
well use Bill's software then *ducks*

Next I am reading about cvsup but yesterday it
took *ages* to install/compile as I chose the
wrong one with modular support !!!
So, I will learn how to do minimal install first.
Then cvsup. Then security updates.
 

It's advicable to download the latest kernel sources and recompile your 
kernel. Get the stable-supfile, located at /usr/share/examples/cvsup, 
edit it to point to your proper version of FreeBSD (RELENG_5_2 for 
FreeBSD 5.2.1 and RELENG_4_10 for FreeBSD 4.10) and your proper mirror 
Do this by typing the following command:

# cvsup -g -L 2 stable-supfile
Once that is finished, read the part of the handbook, and start from: 
Procedure 2. Building a Kernel the ``New'' Way.

If your kernel is finished, you'll have all the current paches already. 
Again, see the link for more information on how to recompile your 
kernel. It might sound hard in the beginning, but it's really easy once 
you get the hang of it..

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/kernelconfig-building.html
After that I really learn how to install services :)
I have found this site good :-
http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd/
 

That is a nice site, yes. You might want to consider reading a few pages 
of the FreeBSD handbook as well

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/
Do you know any other *Step by Step* sites ?
 

Not really, but I really suggest you take a peek at the handbook.
Thanks !
 

You're welcome.
Jorn
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Re: Should gcc be accessable by others?

2004-06-17 Thread Geert Hendrickx
I think a better solution would be to mount the user-writable partitions
(/home, /tmp) with option noexec.  That prevents users from having their own
executables, whether locally compiled or not.  

GH


On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 04:08:29PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi:
 
  I see that gcc, g++, and other tools are usable by world (others). I was
  wondering if that is a bad idea as I read here:
  http://www.itworld.com/nl/lnx_sec/09242002/pf_index.html
 
 that the slapper worm used gcc to compile it's exploit.  Excerpt: The worm
 requires gcc to compile the .bugtraq.c file. 
 
  Is it a good idea to change the permisions on the gcc tools to 750 ? I
  looked through the FreeBSD Handbook and could find no advice on this matter.
  Also are there other tools that should not be available like strace? How can
  I find out which ones are potentially exploitable?  I am a newcomer to
  FreeBSD and have been using it for less than a year so don't be cross if
  these questions are naive.
 
  Kind regards,
  Jonathan
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Re: Still no graphic desktop

2004-06-17 Thread Curtis Almond
One other thing you can do besides /stand/sysinstall is to use XFree86
-configure.

After you boot simply type the above command.  After that command is
finished it will prompt you with another command to test the
configuration.  Simply type the command shown on the screen and you
should see an X type environment on your monitor.

In some cases at this point you will need to ctl-alt-backspace to exit.

Once you are done with this step cd /stand and type ./sysinstall.  Go
to configure, then desktop, and install Gnome.

Once you have installed GNOME then go back to your home directory and
create a .xinitrc file with one line in it as follows.

GNOME-SESSION

At this point the resolution may not be as you desire.  To configure
the resolution add the following lines to your XF86Config file.

Section Screen
Identifier Screen0
Device Card0
MonitorMonitor0
DefaultDepth24***(This is the line you want to add

Then in the below section add some lines:
SubSection Display
Depth 24
   Modes   1600x1200 ***Add this line 
Modes   1280x1024 ***add this line
   Modes   1024x768*** add this line
EndSubSection

Also while we are here you should enable the scroll mouse.

Section InputDevice
Identifier  Mouse0
Driver  mouse
Option  Protocol auto
Option  ZAxisMapping 4 5  ***add this line***
Option  Device /dev/sysmouse
EndSection


Then in the proper section

If you have an Intel integrated graphics card this may require more
changes.  If you do let me know and I can show you what I have done to
get an integrated Intel graphics chip to work.

At this point you should be able to just type startx and the GNOME
session will start at the resolution you desire.  If you entered all
three Modes lines  you can use clt-atl--minus sign to step down to
the next lowest resolution.

Let me know if you have qestions.

On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 22:14:06 -0600, Lloyd Hayes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  How are you trying to start X Windows? If you're just expecting it to
 start, you're going to end up disappointed.
 
 Oops...
 I was expecting the graphical desktop to start automatically. However I
 also tried startx, and I played with xdm. Whatever I was doing kept
 coming up with errors about no screen.
 
 Lloyd Hayes
 
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com
 E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590
 Web Journal: http://lloyd_hayes.bravejournal.com/
 
 
 
 
 Matt Navarre wrote:
 
 
 
  Lloyd Hayes wrote:
 
  I have been told that the reason that I don't have a graphic desktop
  yet is because my XFree86 Server is not configured right. I finally
  downloaded the exact specs on my old laptop from Gateway and plugged
  them into the configure file. No help.
  I tried each of the 4 configure methods from the menu. No good, nor
  does the graphics menu work any more.
  I have attempted to switch from KDE to Gnome, to Windowmaker. Again,
  no good.
 
 
  How are you trying to start X Windows? If you're just expecting it to
  start, you're going to end up disappointed.
 
  To start X you need to either type startx at the command prompt or
  edit /etc/ttys to start xdm (or kdm or gdm) on the console.
 
  here's the handbook page on configuring xdm to start after boot:
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/x-xdm.html
 
  Generally the step in section 5.6.2 is all you need to do, the rest is
  advanced options that you needn't be concerned with at this point.
  This info applies to kdm and gdm (KDE Display Manager and Gnome
  Display Manager, respectively)
 
  To get your desired desktop to start you need to put the command to
  start it in $HOME/.xinitrc(for startx) or $HOME/.xsession(for xdm). To
  get KDE started (assuming it's installed) just type
  'echo startkde  .xinitrc' at the prompt. Assuming you're at the text
  console type 'startx'. KDE should start.
 
 
  I have tried several other things such as the one below:
 
  # cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4
  # make install clean
 
  It then suggests that I 'make reinstall' or 'make deinstall'. I tried
  reinstall first with it then suggesting that I 'make reinstall' again
  or 'make deinstall'.
 
  # make deinstall
 
  # cd /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4
  # make install clean
 
  While this seemed to install ok, it was still no help. I'm still
  stuck with line item commands.
 
  When executing afterwards: XFree86 -configure  I get: Fatal Server Error
  xf86EnableIO: Failed to open /dev/io for extended I/O
 
 
  Hmm, are you doing this as root? You need to be. Another alternative,
  if you have the specs for your monitor and video card, is
  /usr/X11R6/bin/xf86config. It'll ask you questions about your setup
  and generate a config file based on what you tell it. Try that, and if
  you still have problems post your config file and relevant log
  messages to the list, and we'll try to help.
 
 

Re: Apache2 and UserDir in FreeBSD

2004-06-17 Thread Jez Hancock
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 07:04:07AM +0100, Jez Hancock wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 16, 2004 at 03:16:50PM -0400, Duane Winner wrote:
  
  Does anybody know why this is happening:
  
  I have found that with apache2, installed via portinstall on both 4.9 
  and 5.x, the UserDir is enabled even if it is commented out in httpd.conf!
  
  It is on by default in the stock httpd.conf that installs with apache2. 
  If I comment it out and restart, I have found that users can still 
  create public_html directories in their home directories, and publish 
  content.
 
 I found this odd as well on apache13 a while ago. UserDir is enabled by
 default for apache13 and will only be 'disabled' if you set it
 disabled explicitly in httpd.conf:
...
on rereading my post I realize I forgot to say that the details in my
post also apply to apache 2.x as well as 1.3.x - that's to say that by
default apache 2.x has UserDir enabled by default on FreeBSD.  Turn it
off using 'UserDir disabled' in httpd.conf.


-- 
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 - System Administrator / PHP Developer

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Compatable????

2004-06-17 Thread Roger Williams
Hello,
Does anyone know if the following hardware is compatable with 4.10?


Chipset  • Intel® E7210 (Canterwood ES) chipset
• MCH + ICH5-R + FWH

Serial ATA  • SATA Controller on-chip (Intel® ICH5-R)
• Dual Serial ATA ports
• RAID 0, 1 Supported

Network Controllers  • Dual Intel® 82541 Gigabit Ethernet
• Supports 10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, and 1000BASE-T, RJ45 output

Graphics  ATI Rage XL SVGA PCI video controller with 8 MB of video memory


Thanks,
Roger


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Re: firefox not launching since upgrade to 0.9_1

2004-06-17 Thread gaf
Richard Tobin wrote:
# firefox -- we no longer need to launch 1st time as root, but...
(firefox-bin:87415): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:  
   

Presumably you don't have DISPLAY set when you're running as root.
 

firefox
 

*** loading the extensions datasource
*** loading the extensions datasource
*** loading the extensions datasource
   

I have the same problem, but with an extra message:
LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library 
/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so 
[/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so: Undefined symbol 
_vt$16nsQueryInterface]
*** loading the extensions datasource
LoadPlugin: failed to initialize shared library 
/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so 
[/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/jre/plugin/i386/ns600/libjavaplugin_oji.so: Undefined symbol 
_vt$16nsQueryInterface]
*** loading the extensions datasource
-- Richard
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Firefox 0.9 won´t load under XP either.
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Re: New user questions :)

2004-06-17 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 Graham Bentley wrote:
 
 Thanks for that Jorn :)
 
 I am still elarning (guess I'll never stop :)
 
 I did a minimal config of FreeBSD and wanted
 to use Midnight Commander
 
 (I know this isnt that secure and its a bit of a crutch
 but its good for noobs like me)
 
 Anyway, there was 7 porgs missing all of which
 DL'ed and compiled but it took 35 minutes !!!
   
 
 I suppose you don't want to compile KDE or OpenOffice.org from source 
 then. KDE took me roughly ten hours and OpenOffice.org roughly twelve 
 hours, including the java installation. *grin*
 
 Is it possible to install just the binary (stoopid
 question if that binary needs libs / other progs
 to be installed first :)
   
 
 You can install packages, yes. Just use the pkg_add command. However, I 
 believe that the wonder of Open Source is that we compile the source 
 code ourselves. If you're a fan of packages and RPMs, then you might as 
 well use Bill's software then *ducks*

That advice may be OK for some things, but it doesn't make sense
to make yourself compile such behemoths as Openoffice and etc 
unless you are in to pain and suffering for your entertainment.
Download the packages from the creator/maintainer and pkg_add
them.   They already make a version compiled just for FreeBSD.
For Openoffice, check out:   
   http://projects.imp.ch/openoffice/

I used that and it works and works just fine.   There was an error in
the instructions though.   When you get done with the pck_add you need
to run it to config.  
That is:  /usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.1.0/program/soffice
instead of what they say.   That depends a little, also on where
you install it.  This depends on installing it in:
/usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.1.0/

As for the rest of the advice, yah, learn cvsup, the worlds, etc
But, when there are good packages available, don't be shy about
using them.   This is a practical thing.   It ain't about how
much macho-man you are.

jerry
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Re: Password not requested

2004-06-17 Thread Peter Ulrich Kruppa
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, Jan Muenther wrote:
Ahoi there,
I have a slight problem that I cannot figure out.  I used cvsup and did
buildworld, etc...  When i finished I am no longer asked to supply a
password when logging on with any user (tried 3 accounts).
did you run mergemaster? My guess would be you f*cked up your PAM config.
Or you overwrote your /etc/master.passwd
Uli.

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| Wuppertal |
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Re: New user questions :)

2004-06-17 Thread Peter Risdon

Jorn Argelo wrote:
Graham Bentley wrote:
[snip]
Install the ports tree, use CVSUP to get the latest version of the ports 
tree (if you don't know how to do that, go to the FreeBSD website and 
search the handbook)

Heres my immediate shortlist :-
Setting up DHCP for LAN Clients
 

cd /usr/ports/net/isc-dhcp3-server  make all install clean
Last time I played with DHCP I didn't had too much success, but I was 
still a complete *nix newbie back then. Ever since I'm just using the 
DHCP server of my router.
This is a sample config for /usr/local/etc/dhcpd.conf:
# change this to your own valid setting
option domain-name yourdomain.com;
#change the below to a valid name server address
option domain-name-servers 111.222.333.444;
default-lease-time 86400;
max-lease-time 2592000;
# If this DHCP server is the official DHCP server for the local
# network, the authoritative directive should be uncommented.
authoritative;
# ad-hoc DNS update scheme - set to none to disable dynamic DNS
#updates.
ddns-update-style none;
# Use this to send dhcp log messages to a different log file (you also
# have to hack syslog.conf to complete the redirection).
log-facility local7;
#The below uses an address pool of 172.16.1.100 to 172.16.1.199 - 99 
#addresses leaving all the others in this class C range for static 
#allocation (network printers, anything else that needs to be
#in the same place always). Change it if you need more addresses
#or want to use a different range.

subnet 172.16.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
  range 172.16.1.100 172.16.1.199;
  option routers 172.16.1.1;
  option broadcast-address 172.16.1.255;
  default-lease-time 600;
  max-lease-time 7200;
}

Setting up Samba to Share Files on a Wingroup
 

cd /usr/ports/net/samba  make all install clean
Setting up a print server for Winclients
 

cd /usr/ports/print/cups  make all install clean
Do note that the configuration of cups can be bit tricky. I never got 
cups fully up and running.

The biggest prob I've had with cups on FreeBSD is that the BSD lp and 
lpd are still in /usr/bin, and the cups versions are in /usr/local/bin, 
which usually comes later in your search paths. The consequence is that 
cups seems OK, localhost:631 displays the cups management interface in a 
web browser on the cups server, test pages print OK from this web 
interface, but applications don't print at all and command line lp tests 
just whinge about being unable to find a running print server. One fix 
is to back up the BSD versions and soft link the cups versions to /usr/bin

#mv /usr/bin/lp /usr/bin/lp.bak
#mv /usr/bin/lpr /usr/bin/lpr.bak
#ln -s /usr/local/bin/lp /usr/bin/lp
#ln -s /usr/local/bin/lpr /usr/bin/lpr
and then add the following to /etc/make.conf:
NO_LPR= true
CUPS_OVERWRITE_BASE=yes
Samba can also use the standard BSD spooler for sharing printers, but a 
properly set up cups is more automagic.

It's also worth installing gimp-print for a larger range of printer drivers.
Using Samba as a Virtual CD-ROM Server
 

I suppose that is just a matter of configuring Samba.
Yes, just make a share for the cdrom mount points in the usual way.
Peter.
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Shared Partition?

2004-06-17 Thread Tom Moyer
I currently dual boot Windows XP and FreeBSD 5.2.1.  I have files that are common to 
both (MP3's and some documents).  Is there a way to create a partition that can be 
read by both that would eliminate this double copy problem?

I thought creating a separate partition woudl work but Windows XP allows only one 
visible primary partition and I don't know how to mount a logical partition with 
multiple sub-partitions.
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[A bit OT]Re: New user questions :)

2004-06-17 Thread Jorn Argelo
Jerry McAllister wrote:
Graham Bentley wrote:
   

Thanks for that Jorn :)
I am still elarning (guess I'll never stop :)
I did a minimal config of FreeBSD and wanted
to use Midnight Commander
(I know this isnt that secure and its a bit of a crutch
but its good for noobs like me)
Anyway, there was 7 porgs missing all of which
DL'ed and compiled but it took 35 minutes !!!
 

I suppose you don't want to compile KDE or OpenOffice.org from source 
then. KDE took me roughly ten hours and OpenOffice.org roughly twelve 
hours, including the java installation. *grin*

   

Is it possible to install just the binary (stoopid
question if that binary needs libs / other progs
to be installed first :)
 

You can install packages, yes. Just use the pkg_add command. However, I 
believe that the wonder of Open Source is that we compile the source 
code ourselves. If you're a fan of packages and RPMs, then you might as 
well use Bill's software then *ducks*
   

That advice may be OK for some things, but it doesn't make sense
to make yourself compile such behemoths as Openoffice and etc 
unless you are in to pain and suffering for your entertainment.
 

Heh, that's true. Though let's be honest, you have to try everything 
once, don't you think? I  got no problems compiling KDE, but I don't 
really prefer using OOo. I'll use KOffice instead.

Download the packages from the creator/maintainer and pkg_add
them.   They already make a version compiled just for FreeBSD.
For Openoffice, check out:   
  http://projects.imp.ch/openoffice/

I used that and it works and works just fine.   There was an error in
the instructions though.   When you get done with the pck_add you need
to run it to config.  
That is:  /usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.1.0/program/soffice
instead of what they say.   That depends a little, also on where
you install it.  This depends on installing it in:
   /usr/local/OpenOffice.org1.1.0/

As for the rest of the advice, yah, learn cvsup, the worlds, etc
But, when there are good packages available, don't be shy about
using them.   This is a practical thing.   It ain't about how
much macho-man you are.
 

True there. Packages can be handy, especially for applications like 
OpenOffice.org. It's just a matter of preference I'd say.

Cheers,
Jorn
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probably a silly question. probably requires a silly answer.

2004-06-17 Thread Robert Huff

Edd writes:

  Is it a bad idea to use a 5.x kernel on a 4.x system?

Gun, ear, bang!.
Or if you want silly: halibut, pipe wrench, christmas tree
ornament.


Robert Huff


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Re: Means of traversing a directory

2004-06-17 Thread Richard Caley
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gerard Samuel (gs) writes:

gs Im running tar(1) to make a tar ball of a directory using the 
gs --newer-mtime to only get newer files after a specified date.
gs Unfortunately, it also creates unwanted empty directories.

Have you tried using find? 

If a relative time is good enough

find DIR -type f -mtime -6 

if you need to specify a time and date, I think the only way is to use
touch to makea file at the right date then use find's -newer test.

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Re: Success!

2004-06-17 Thread Lloyd Hayes
After re-installing the system, I typed 'startx' and everything started 
up right away, using Gnome this time.

Lloyd Hayes
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Web Journal: http://lloyd_hayes.bravejournal.com/


Matt Navarre wrote:
On Wednesday 16 June 2004 09:14, Lloyd Hayes wrote:
 

How are you trying to start X Windows? If you're just expecting it to
start, you're going to end up disappointed.
Oops...
I was expecting the graphical desktop to start automatically. However I
also tried startx, and I played with xdm. Whatever I was doing kept
coming up with errors about no screen.
   

Aha! a clue! You are missing at least the Screen section of your XFree config 
file. The Screen section tells the X server what combination of monitor, 
video card, resolution and color depth to use.

I'm guessing that your XF86Config file isn't configured right(or at all). Try 
the xf86config command I mentioned earlier, I've had better luck with that in 
general than the XFree86 -configure route in the past.

Don't feel bad, configuring X is one of the most common stumbling blocks for 
new FreeBSD users, especially people coming from a Mac or Windows background. 
Most Linux distros configure X automagically at install time, FreeBSD doesn't 
for a couple of reasons: A) X isn't part of the base system, it's an add-on 
like any other port. B) There's a stronger learn how to do it meme 'round 
these parts than, say, the Linux or Windows camps. Linux (at least the main 
distros) has much more a Mom should be able to use it mentallity. C) It's 
usually not a stumbling block for long, and you end up learning a bit about 
the system in the process. Think of it as a learning experience :) Or just 
keep repeating That which does not kill me can only make me stronger.

 

Lloyd Hayes
   


 

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Tuneable Parameters

2004-06-17 Thread Richard Burnett-Godfree
I am trying to port software currently running on hp-ux to freeBSD 4.9.

The application I have will normally run for large numbers of users
accessing database applications.

On hp-ux to enable reasonable user numbers with large numbers of files open
I would normally tune

MAXFILESNo files per process
MAXFILES_LIMSystem level max files per process
MAXUPRC Max no user processes
MAXUSERSUsed by kernel generation to calc tables sizes
NFILE   Max no files open
NFLOCKS Max no file locks
NINODE  Max no inodes open
NPTYMax no of virtual telnet devices

Where do these exist in FreeBSD or do I not worry about these type of
things.  I would normally experience 'unable to fork process' or issues with
performance as unix files are opened and accessed dynamically on a 'least
recently used' basis based on the size of some of these tables.

Thanks for your help.

Regards
Richard


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Re: Problems running Tar (1) for newer files

2004-06-17 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Gerard Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Im trying to create a tar ball by running -
 tar -c -N 'Jun 1 2004' -f ../dev.tar *
 
 I keep getting this error -
 tar: More than one threshold date
 
 Can anyone see what Im doing wrong?
 Im running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p6

Works for me (-STABLE).
My best guess would be that the '*' is matching a filename that
confuses tar (maybe something beginning with a dash?).
Try using '.' instead.
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IPSec Routing and Interfaces, ping problem (long)

2004-06-17 Thread Andre Rein
Hi Ml,

got a little understanding problem with my VPN connection.
I set up isakmpd. Connected from a static client ip.
Everything works fine.

10.0.1.0---195.226.x.98[INTERNET]195.226.x.124---10.0.0.0


gif0: flags=8050POINTOPOINT,RUNNING,MULTICAST mtu 1280
tunnel inet 195.226.x.124 -- 195.226.x.98
inet 10.0.0.124 -- 10.0.1.1 netmask 0xff00
inet6 fe80::250:baff:fede:bb73%gif0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x9

the gif0 Interface i created myself with:
gifconfig gif0 195.226.65.124 195.226.65.98
ifconfig gif0 inet 10.0.0.124 10.0.1.1 netmask 255.255.255.0
setkey -FP
setkey -F
setkey -c  EOF
spdadd 10.0.0.0/24 10.0.1.0/24 any -P out ipsec
esp/tunnel/195.226.x.124-195.226.x.98/require;
spdadd 10.0.1.0/24 10.0.0.0/24 any -P in ipsec
esp/tunnel/195.226.x.98-195.226.x.124/require;
EOF

First I tried racoon, so do I need gif0 Interface when using isakmpd?
Anyway, heres my setkey -D output:

195.226.x.124 195.226.x.98
esp mode=any spi=115684691(0x06e53553) reqid=0(0x)
E: 3des-cbc  f69579f2 ccee42f3 e046f2d3 ea44eaf0 0111da98 cf79ee9d
A: hmac-md5  f7f015ab 8200c964 13332790 8fdc3591
seq=0x002e replay=0 flags=0x state=mature
created: Jun 17 16:54:38 2004   current: Jun 17 16:55:38 2004
diff: 60(s) hard: 90(s) soft: 81(s)
last: Jun 17 16:55:38 2004  hard: 0(s)  soft: 0(s)
current: 6256(bytes)hard: 0(bytes)  soft: 0(bytes)
allocated: 46   hard: 0 soft: 0
sadb_seq=1 pid=79990 refcnt=2

195.226.x.98 195.226.x.124
esp mode=any spi=542689727(0x2058c9bf) reqid=0(0x)
E: 3des-cbc  935381d8 a9ccfc65 b82ab59d 4c2201fa c41adfc5 077cab63
A: hmac-md5  be01afa0 884cb945 0d561298 d17b5fbf
seq=0x002e replay=0 flags=0x state=mature
created: Jun 17 16:54:38 2004   current: Jun 17 16:55:38 2004
diff: 60(s) hard: 90(s) soft: 81(s)
last: Jun 17 16:55:38 2004  hard: 0(s)  soft: 0(s)
current: 3864(bytes)hard: 0(bytes)  soft: 0(bytes)
allocated: 46   hard: 0 soft: 0
sadb_seq=0 pid=79990 refcnt=1

I added a route to the 10.0.1/24 net:
10.0.1/24  10.0.1.1   UGSc0 2736   gif0

Now I set up a connection from a dynamic client.

192.168.10/30--Dynamic-IP[INTERNET]195.226.x.124---10.0.0.0

setkey -D:
195.226.x.124 217.236.140.95
esp mode=any spi=1631512562(0x613ee7f2) reqid=0(0x)
E: rijndael-cbc  ae65af22 6256a79a d37eb700 c7cd9917
A: hmac-md5  3e378bc3 f7abd982 67d838d9 b678d18d
seq=0x01c6 replay=0 flags=0x state=mature
created: Jun 17 16:57:06 2004   current: Jun 17 17:04:52 2004
diff: 466(s)hard: 2000(s)   soft: 1800(s)
last: Jun 17 17:04:51 2004  hard: 0(s)  soft: 0(s)
current: 69008(bytes)   hard: 20480(bytes)  soft: 18432(bytes)
allocated: 454  hard: 0 soft: 0
sadb_seq=3 pid=80022 refcnt=2
217.236.140.95 195.226.x.124
esp mode=any spi=1382069086(0x5260b35e) reqid=0(0x)
E: rijndael-cbc  3e52567a 51306d35 e2333684 55b64a40
A: hmac-md5  695a1b0a fb962e83 b38ff954 a2b4b4aa
seq=0x01c5 replay=0 flags=0x state=mature
created: Jun 17 16:57:06 2004   current: Jun 17 17:04:52 2004
diff: 466(s)hard: 2000(s)   soft: 1800(s)
last: Jun 17 17:04:51 2004  hard: 0(s)  soft: 0(s)
current: 38052(bytes)   hard: 20480(bytes)  soft: 18432(bytes)
allocated: 453  hard: 0 soft: 0
sadb_seq=2 pid=80022 refcnt=1


From the client I can ping 10.0.0.124. So I tried another host in this
net(10.0.0.1).

I gave 10.0.0.1 a route to the 192.168.10/30 net
192.168.10/30  10.0.0.124 UGSc0  341rl0

I'm able to ping 10.0.0.1 now from my vpnclient and ping the
vpnclient from 10.0.0.1 without any trouble.

The only problem I get, is to ping the vpnclient from the vpnserver.
It won't work.
So how should I setup the server to ping the client?
Am I just blind and don't see my mistake?


gruss/regards

Andre

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gcc 2.95 thread model (single or posix)?

2004-06-17 Thread Kurt Miller
What thread model is gcc 2.95 configured for on FreeBSD 4.9
(single or posix)?

I asked on gcc-help and they said that it was not easy to tell 
from the binary, but should be output during configure time. Does
anyone here know?

Thanks,
-Kurt

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Re: Shared Partition?

2004-06-17 Thread Curtis Almond
I am pretty sure the only way to do this is to have a FAT32 partition.
 I have not done this on FreeBSD but while playing with Xandros Linux
I was able to get read/write access using a FAT partition.

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:27:34 -0400, Tom Moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I currently dual boot Windows XP and FreeBSD 5.2.1.  I have files that are common to 
 both (MP3's and some documents).  Is there a way to create a partition that can be 
 read by both that would eliminate this double copy problem?
 
 I thought creating a separate partition woudl work but Windows XP allows only one 
 visible primary partition and I don't know how to mount a logical partition with 
 multiple sub-partitions.
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Sound problem

2004-06-17 Thread CAVELIER Grégory
First, thank you for your answers about CPU frequency.
But I have another problem: When I play something through XMMS I 
sometimes hear some little plop (Don't know how to explain that). It's 
like my PC is overloaded but it's not...

I've renice XMMS to priority -20 but it doesn't change anything.
Any ideas ?
I've have FreeBSD 5.2.1 and a SB AWE 32 ISA working with module snd_sb
Thanks
GaLi
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Re: Shared Partition?

2004-06-17 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
 I am pretty sure the only way to do this is to have a FAT32 partition.
  I have not done this on FreeBSD but while playing with Xandros Linux
 I was able to get read/write access using a FAT partition.

I also believe that you need a fat32 slice.It would be accessable
by both systems.

jerry

 
 On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 10:27:34 -0400, Tom Moyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I currently dual boot Windows XP and FreeBSD 5.2.1.  I have files that are common 
  to both (MP3's and some documents).  Is there a way to create a partition that can 
  be read by both that would eliminate this double copy problem?
  
  I thought creating a separate partition woudl work but Windows XP allows only one 
  visible primary partition and I don't know how to mount a logical partition with 
  multiple sub-partitions.
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Re: Problem while upgrading to 4.10 from 4.7...

2004-06-17 Thread Bill Moran
Timothy Gagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Timothy Gagnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Alright, I have been trying to upgrade FreeBSD from 4.7 to 4.10...I used
  cvsup to get all the files make buildworld when through just fine, but
  the problem comes after make kernel KERNCONF=GENERIC...
 
  If you did, literally, what you describe, then your problem is that you
  upgraded improperly.
 
  make buildworld builds world, but doesn't install it.  make kernel
  makes
  and installs the kernel.  If you did the steps you describe, then you have
  a kernel and a world with mistmatched versions.
 
 Well, I didn't use make buildkernel I used make kernel which from what
 I understood was the same as typing both make buildkernel and make
 installkernel...

Please re-read ...

I'm talking about the make buildworld step ... if you did not follow it with
a make installworld at some point, then your world was never updated and
you're running a kernel newer than your world.

 
  If that's the case, get booted into the system and re-run the upgrade
  process.
  Be sure to do all the steps this time, as described in 21.4.1:
  http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html
 
  When I reboot and the kernel starts to load...it *always* just stops at
  the same point and just sits there doing nothing at acd1: CD-RW My
  CD-RW
  info at ata1-slave PIO4...
 
  If I restart and run kernel.GENERIC from the boot prompt I can get it
  to
  load the kernel, but I want to be able to go into single-user mode to
  mount the file system, plus I just don't like having things acting
  screwy.
 
  --
  Bill Moran
  Potential Technologies
  http://www.potentialtech.com
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: Upgrading openssh

2004-06-17 Thread Nagilum
Hi Eric,
The base version of openssh is updated frequently (especially if any 
vulnerabilities are discovered), so why bother with the port?

Kind regards,
Alex.
Eric Crist wrote:
After figuring out perl (with the help of Matthew, I was wondering what the 
proper way to install/upgrade openssh.  I assume it's to install from ports, 
and somehow disable the installed, system version.

What's the proper method?
 


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Re: Shared Partition?

2004-06-17 Thread Renato Marques
I currently dual boot Windos 98 and FreeBSD 5.2.1. The only thing i
do is create first a primary dos and extend partition using a DOS FDISK
and FOMAT and so,
mount -t msdos /dev/ados1 /mnt/c
mount -t msdos /dev/ad0s5 /mnt/d
mount -t msdos /dev/ad0s6 /mnt/e
and even
mount /dev/ad0s7


Some time ago, when a tried to make that using fdisk and newfs_msdos
nothing
works only ad0s7.
Hope that helps.


I currently dual boot Windows XP and FreeBSD 5.2.1.  I have files that
are common to both (MP3's and some documents).  Is there a way to create
a partition that can be read by both that would eliminate this double
copy problem?

I thought creating a separate partition woudl work but Windows XP allows
only one visible primary partition and I don't know how to mount a
logical partition with multiple sub-partitions.
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RE: firefox not launching since upgrade to 0.9_1

2004-06-17 Thread Michael Clark
From the ports list::


If you're going to install the new firefox-0.9 update, there's something
important you should know.  You MUST run firefox as root before running
it as any other user.  The best way to do this is to su - to root or log
in as root (i.e. do not su -m to root).  After becoming root, simply run
``firefox''.  You can then quit the browser, then run it as any other
user.  If you do not run firefox as root first, the browser window will
not appear.

This is a known issue with 0.9.  See the Known Issues list at:

http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/releases/0.9.html

(it's the first one)



Michael Clark
Nemschoff Chairs Inc
mclark at nemschoff dot com
CompTIA A+, Network+, Server+, MCP
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Subject: firefox not launching since upgrade to 0.9_1


hello all,

problems since portupgrading firefox.  i deleted all .mozilla .phoenix
directories from $HOME.

 uname -a
FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE Thu May 27 13:51:30 EDT 2004 i386

 pkg_info | grep -i fire
firefox-0.9_1   Web browser based on the browser portion of Mozilla

# firefox -- we no longer need to launch 1st time as root, but...
(firefox-bin:87415): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:  

 firefox
*** loading the extensions datasource
*** loading the extensions datasource
*** loading the extensions datasource
-- same message repeats endlessly and cpu is maxed out --
*** loading the extensions datasource
*** loading the extensions datasource
*** loading the extensions datasource
^C

would anyone have ideas about what might be causing this?


thanks,
epi
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vinum setup

2004-06-17 Thread synrat
4.8

I'm trying to setup partitions for vinum.
I am in single user mode, but every time I try
to modify swap size to accomodate for vinum confuration
I get

disklabel: ioctl DIOCWDINFO: open partition would move or shrink
re-edit the label? [y]

#size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
  a: 21094400  21094404.2BSD 2048 1638489   # (Cyl.  131*-
1444*)
  b:  2109000  430  swap# (Cyl.0 -
131*)
  c: 1562481270unused0 0# (Cyl.0 -
9725*)
  e: 133044287 232038404.2BSD 2048 1638489  # (Cyl. 1444*-
9725*)
  h: 156248111   16 vinum   # (Cyl.0*-
9725*)


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Re: Still no graphic desktop

2004-06-17 Thread Lloyd Hayes
That probably was what I needed, plus I needed the exact specs on my 
video card and display (800x600). But someplace in there I mangled the 
config file, I think. After deleting and re-installing the system (for 
my 5th time) everything worked fine. I now have Gnome up and running. 
I'll probable switch to KDE because of it's office software.

Next step is configuiring WiFi Internet access. I access the Internet 
from all over the country through a WiFi modem. I have several pcmcia 
WiFi cards. Most are B cards, with one being a G card. But configuring 
this will wait for a later day...

Thanks.
Lloyd Hayes
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
URL: http://TalkingStaff.bravehost.com 
E-FAX Number: (208) 248-6590
Web Journal: http://lloyd_hayes.bravejournal.com/


Mike wrote:
Lloyd,
 I've been following this thread for a few days now, and I kept
hoping someone would give you some useful advice, but I haven't
seen any.  I really dislike posting to email groups, but if you find
this advice useful, feel free to forward it on to -questions, just
please anonymize my name/email address from the post.
Log in as root (configuring X11 (xwindows) requires root permissions)
At the prompt, type in:
xf86cfg
This will run a program that will try to autodetect the video card
in your computer.  Assuming it is successful (if it is not, this
process will be significantly harder and more annoying) it will bring
up a grahpical configuration program.  You should see a picture of a
computer connected to a mouse, keyboard, video card, and the video card
connected to a monitor.
At this point, hopefully the mouse will work.  If not, you can navigate
the mouse cursor with the number pad keys for directions.  This keyboard
interface requires a bit of playing around with to understand, and
hopefully you will not need to use it (your mouse will just work).
Once you are able to control the graphical interface, you will be able
to go to the monitors tab to configure monitors.  This procedure
is kind of tricky - there is a lot of buttons and weird controls - you
can ignore all these and just use the pulldown on top and select a
video mode that your monitor supports (likely 1024x768...).  It will
ask you if you want to add this mode line or something along those
lines - say yes.
Now use the quit button in the graphical program.  It will ask you
if you want to save /usr/X11R6/lib/X86Config file.  Click Ok, it will
ask you about a keyboard file, say Ok as well.
You should be back to a command line prompt.  Now type in
xf86cfg -textmode -xf86config /usr/X11R6/lib/XF86Config
this will run the same program, except in a text mode and use the
file that it created the first time through as the starting
configuration.  Everything should already be set up correctly except
for the Configure Screen section.  Go there, edit screen 0, pick
a color depth (depending on how new/old your computer is, it could
be as high as 24 bit, but to be on the safe side you can pick 8 or 16
bit for now and you can always re-reun xf86cfg with the same arguments
to change it later).  Then the next screen will have checkboxes - check
only one for the resolution you want.  To be on the safe side, I would
say pick the 1024x768 , but here again you can experiment.
After clicking finish you will be back to the main menu.  Select
'write XF86Config and quit' and agree to everything it asks of you.
Now you should be ready to start xwindows.  This is very similar to
typing win at the C: prompt back in the days of windows 3.0, type:
startx
at the prompt, and xwindows should come up with a graphical display
and a working mouse.
You can always kill xwindows by pressing alt+ctrl+backspace to be
returned to the command line again.  I do not know if you have done
this before or not, but if you have kde installed and want to use it
as your window manager/environment, you should also type
echo startkde  ~/.xinitrc
what this will do is create a file called .xinitrc in your home directory
that has the line startkde in it (~ means home directory).  When you
type startx this file will be read and the commands in it will be
executed.
Hope this helps.
 - Mike
On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 22:14:06 -0600, Lloyd Hayes wrote
 

How are you trying to start X Windows? If you're just expecting it 
 

to start, you're going to end up disappointed.
Oops...
I was expecting the graphical desktop to start automatically. 
However I also tried startx, and I played with xdm. Whatever I was 
doing kept coming up with errors about no screen.

Lloyd Hayes
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Web Journal: http://lloyd_hayes.bravejournal.com/

Matt Navarre wrote:
   

Lloyd Hayes wrote:
 

I have been told that the reason that I don't have a graphic desktop 
yet is because my XFree86 Server is not configured right. I finally 
downloaded the exact specs on my old laptop from Gateway and plugged 
them into the configure file. No help.
I tried each of the 4 configure 

firefox menu display issue

2004-06-17 Thread Steve Tremblett

This is a minor annoyance, but since I haven't seen anyone else comment
on it I figure I should throw it out and see.

When selecting any menu in firefox 0.9 (and 0.9_1), both the focus
highlight and the menu title appear as a solid white bar with no text. 
Has anyone seen this?  Any ideas on whether the problem lies within
firefox or maybe gnome themes?  I'm using the Simple theme unchanged
from its default, but a lot of gnome components were included in my
update yesterday.

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Re: Problems running Tar (1) for newer files

2004-06-17 Thread Gerard Samuel
On Thursday 17 June 2004 11:06 am, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Gerard Samuel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Im trying to create a tar ball by running -
  tar -c -N 'Jun 1 2004' -f ../dev.tar *
 
  I keep getting this error -
  tar: More than one threshold date
 
  Can anyone see what Im doing wrong?
  Im running FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE-p6

 Works for me (-STABLE).
 My best guess would be that the '*' is matching a filename that
 confuses tar (maybe something beginning with a dash?).
 Try using '.' instead.

I dont know.  Maybe a glitch in the matrix, but its working today
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Re: which version?

2004-06-17 Thread Reed L. O'Brien
If you aren't using it as a production machine you may as well start 
with the 5.x,  5.2.1 right now, as it could use a larger test base on 
the road to stable.

cheers,
reed
stanisaw gsior wrote:
hi
which version will be good to my comp.plizz help me.

Prawdziwa historia, zakazana mio, skandal obyczajowy...
Zobacz sam!
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Re: Is PERC4/Di supported under FreeBSD 5.2.1?

2004-06-17 Thread login

To the owners of a Dell PowerEdge 2600 server running FreeBSD 5.2.1:

I am in the process of a system purchase as above. It is coming with 
PERC4/Di hard drive controller. By looking at the hardware compatibility 
list for 4.10, it is supported. I do not see this same piece of hardware on 
the compatibility list for FreeBSD 5.2.1. Anyone comment or suggestion 
please!


Btw, if this system is going to be a hardware RAID level 5, does it really 
still a matter for the support under FreeBSD 5.2.1?

S. Mohammad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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FreeBSD community - best ever !

2004-06-17 Thread Graham Bentley

Have to say this :-

I have used alot of online resources and have had help
in many forms from far and wide.

Sometimes I have received ridicule and criticism and
condescending remarks for my inquisitiveness and
sometimes stupid questions.

But as a new FreeBSD user I am amazed at the first 
off response and help I have had.

Unbiased, polite, patient and informative.

Hats off to FreeBSD supporters everywhere !

Its a great community !!!
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Firefox 0.9 Port

2004-06-17 Thread Jamie Novak
I'm not really sure where to ask this, so I'm defaulting to the
questions list.

I recently reinstalled my machine and am running 5.2.1-RELEASE. Now that
Firefox 0.9 has been released, I decided to try installing it. (Note:
Since this is a freshly reinstalled workstation, no previous versions of
Mozilla or Firefox were lying around. I also deleted the .mozilla and
.phoenix directories from my homedir backup before running this new
version.)

The install was successful, but as soon as I try to run the program, all
I get is the same message repeating over and over again in my xterm:

*** loading the extensions datasource

The browser never actually starts and that message keeps repeating until
I ^C out of it.

Has anybody else encountered this since the new port came out? Previous
versions of Firefox on my old workstation (also of the 5.x line) worked
fine.
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Re: Is PERC4/Di supported under FreeBSD 5.2.1?

2004-06-17 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Jun 17), [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 To the owners of a Dell PowerEdge 2600 server running FreeBSD 5.2.1:
 
 I am in the process of a system purchase as above. It is coming with
 PERC4/Di hard drive controller. By looking at the hardware
 compatibility list for 4.10, it is supported. I do not see this same
 piece of hardware on the compatibility list for FreeBSD 5.2.1. Anyone
 comment or suggestion please!

It looks like the 5.2.1 release notes just list the driver name and the
generic device type:

AMI MegaRAID Express and Enterprise family RAID controllers ( amr(4) driver)

But if you click on the amr(4) link, the manpage does list Dell PERC
4/Di as one of the cupported controllers, so it is supported on
FreeBSD 5.x.

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Re: Firefox 0.9 Port

2004-06-17 Thread Richard Tobin
 The install was successful, but as soon as I try to run the program, all
 I get is the same message repeating over and over again in my xterm:

You have to run it as root first.

However, it then segmentation faults on most pages, so it's not a great
advance.

-- Richard
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Re: Firefox 0.9 Port

2004-06-17 Thread Jamie Novak
On 06/17, Richard Tobin rearranged the electrons to read:
 You have to run it as root first.

Actually, according to the last checkin, that's no longer true. I did
try that, though, to no avail. I'll try it again just to be sure.

-Jamie
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Re: System freeze on reboot

2004-06-17 Thread Lucas Holt
I think i have isolated part of the problem.  The rl driver has some 
serious problems.  Doing a google search i found posts on bugs@ that 
shows similar log entries to what i'm getting.  I suspect the system 
would not reboot because the network driver was misbehaved.

I swapped out the realtek chipset card with a 3com 3c905c.  The system 
seems to be running more smoothly.  So far so good.   There is a PR on 
the realtek driver that's been open since february...

Lucas Holt
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Re: FreeBSD community - best ever !

2004-06-17 Thread Jorn Argelo
Graham Bentley wrote:
Have to say this :-
I have used alot of online resources and have had help
in many forms from far and wide.
Sometimes I have received ridicule and criticism and
condescending remarks for my inquisitiveness and
sometimes stupid questions.
 

I believe your inquisitivity is more of a reason for us to reply (at 
least, for me). As long as you want to invest time in the OS, then I 
personally want to help out the person more if I can.

But as a new FreeBSD user I am amazed at the first 
off response and help I have had.

Unbiased, polite, patient and informative.
Hats off to FreeBSD supporters everywhere !
Its a great community !!!
 

Thanks Graham,
I never really got into another mailing list then FreeBSD, but I know 
these guys are great. I always get a reply very quickly if I have a 
question. As long as you use the proper English and remain polite, then 
you'll almost always get a reply on your question sooner or later. 
Perhaps the list is a bit more mature then other lists. (13 -14 year 
old kiddies that are rude, not willing to spend time into others (bad me 
for saying that as an 18 year old kid))

Ehh, anyway, it's nice to hear a positive reaction for a change  :)
Cheers,
Jorn
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Re: Firefox 0.9 Port

2004-06-17 Thread Lewis Thompson
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 12:36:09PM -0500, Jamie Novak wrote:
 The install was successful, but as soon as I try to run the program, all
 I get is the same message repeating over and over again in my xterm:
 
   *** loading the extensions datasource
 
 The browser never actually starts and that message keeps repeating until
 I ^C out of it.

Try starting it as root then as a regular user.  It's weird.  I had that
but after long enough I got a message about too mamy open files.

-lewiz.

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Re: FreeBSD community - best ever !

2004-06-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
 Sometimes I have received ridicule and criticism and
 condescending remarks for my inquisitiveness and
 sometimes stupid questions.

I found this to be true as well. Although most of the Linux community is
very kind as well, I found this type of I know the answer to that, so you
should too in some of their lists/groups.

 But as a new FreeBSD user I am amazed at the first
 off response and help I have had.

This is the same feeling I got when I started using FBSD at v4.5.

 Unbiased, polite, patient and informative.

...and many of the original people who were on the list when I came here
are still here, and just as kind and open to share their experiences and
offer knowledge they've aquired along the way as they were then.

 Hats off to FreeBSD supporters everywhere !

Yes, and hats off to the new users who make the change to FreeBSD, because
most of them I assume will be drawn in to lists like this and eventually
help with their knowledge they aquire due to the kind nature of the people
who help them out.

 Its a great community !!!

That's exactly what I feel this is... a community, of one person helping
out another, with patience and tolerance.

Just my $0.02

sb

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Adaptec 29160 Scsi card / camcontrol rescan

2004-06-17 Thread J.D. Bronson
I have a machine running 5.2.1 with DUAL Adaptec 29160LP scsi cards.
In the machine there are 2 U160 LVD scsi drives...one attached to each
drive...
I have an external SE tape drive that I have a cable for that I can attach 
to the 'extra' 29160 card port. If I hook it up to the card and then boot 
the machine, it is detected and runs fine :)

If I forget, I hook it up later and then run 'camcontrol rescan all'
and the tape drive is immediately picked up and works fine :)
My question is, since I start out w/o the tape drive connected, I am 
running LVD with u160 speeds. Then I hook up the tape drive (run the 
command) and then want to disconnect the tape drive.

I know the bus will slow down with the tape drive attached, but will it 
come back to normal speeds once I remove the tape drive? - and/or do I have 
to run the camcontrol command again?

Thanks in advance!!


--
J.D. Bronson
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Re: Adaptec 29160 Scsi card / camcontrol rescan

2004-06-17 Thread Carl Reisinger
J.D. Bronson wrote:
I know the bus will slow down with the tape drive attached, but will it 
come back to normal speeds once I remove the tape drive? - and/or do I 
have to run the camcontrol command again?
Run the rescan again.
Just removing the device from the bus does not cause the kernel or the 
hba to perform any action.

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Re: Firefox 0.9 Port

2004-06-17 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 07:04:50PM +0100, Lewis Thompson wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 12:36:09PM -0500, Jamie Novak wrote:
  The install was successful, but as soon as I try to run the program, all
  I get is the same message repeating over and over again in my xterm:
  
  *** loading the extensions datasource
  
  The browser never actually starts and that message keeps repeating until
  I ^C out of it.
 
 Try starting it as root then as a regular user.  It's weird.  I had that
 but after long enough I got a message about too mamy open files.

I found that running as root via sudo meant that firefox created a
root-owned ~/.mozilla/firefox directory -- so as soon as I tried to
run it under my own UID, that lead to being constantly asked to create
a new profile, failing to do that and then crashing as observed.

Doing a

% sudo chown -R matthew:matthew ~/.mozilla

fixed the problems and Firefox is running very nicely now, although
occasionally some unknown thing triggers it to dump core when
quitting.  Obviously (do I really need to say this?) substitute your
own usernamed and default group in the above.

Most ways of becoming root won't alter the ${HOME} environment
variable -- other than a full 'su -' or logging into the console as
root, so I'd expect this doing nasty things to file ownerships to be
quite common.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: Adaptec 29160 Scsi card / camcontrol rescan

2004-06-17 Thread J.D. Bronson
At 01:19 PM 06/17/2004, Carl Reisinger wrote:
J.D. Bronson wrote:
I know the bus will slow down with the tape drive attached, but will it 
come back to normal speeds once I remove the tape drive? - and/or do I 
have to run the camcontrol command again?
Run the rescan again.
Just removing the device from the bus does not cause the kernel or the hba 
to perform any action.

Please excuse my ignorance here
Once I disconnect my tape drive and run camcontrol rescan all, I should 
expect the bus speed to once again return to 160?

thanks!

--
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Re: Still no graphic desktop

2004-06-17 Thread Vulpes Velox
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 00:14:54 -0500
Curtis Almond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lloyd,
 
 When I was learning to install and configure FreeBSD for the first
 year or so I always defaulted to using /stand/sysinstall.  This
 allows you to configure your input devices (mouse and keyboard),
 video card, and choose the desktop you would like to use
 (Gnome/KDE).
 
 If you are using a system in which you installed from CD and have
 not done any port upgrade magic I would recommend that method to
 getting started.

Or you could do it using xf86cfg -textmode
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Sendmail and /var/spool/mqueue

2004-06-17 Thread Bill Moran
I'm not a sendmail expert.

What does it mean when I have a lot of files in /var/spool/mqueue?  I don't
really understand what that particular queue is for.

This client is not having any problems getting/sending mail, and the mailq
command only shows one mail in the queue, but I have 3867 files in this
directory.

-- 
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Re: Firefox 0.9 Port

2004-06-17 Thread Jamie Novak
On 06/17, Matthew Seaman rearranged the electrons to read:
  Try starting it as root then as a regular user.  It's weird.  I had that
  but after long enough I got a message about too mamy open files.
 
 I found that running as root via sudo meant that firefox created a
 root-owned ~/.mozilla/firefox directory -- so as soon as I tried to
 run it under my own UID, that lead to being constantly asked to create
 a new profile, failing to do that and then crashing as observed.

Interesting. The 15:29 checkin by marcus said The warning about running
as root first is no longer needed since the hack seems to work, so I
didn't try it again. He was, apparently, wrong.

Now, when I start it via sudo (rather than a su - and an exporting of
the display), it starts up just fine. After a chown -R of the .mozilla
directory to me, it starts fine as my userid, too.

Weirdness.

Thanks, everybody, for the replies! I really appreciate it.

- Jamie
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Re: Sendmail and /var/spool/mqueue

2004-06-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
 What does it mean when I have a lot of files in /var/spool/mqueue?  I
 don't
 really understand what that particular queue is for.

I believe the q is for messages that have failed, but have not yet
expired...don't quote me though.

sb


 This client is not having any problems getting/sending mail, and the mailq
 command only shows one mail in the queue, but I have 3867 files in this
 directory.

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screen 4.00.01 FREEBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE cannot read .bash_profile

2004-06-17 Thread Oliver Fuchs
Hi,

I am using screen 4.00.01 on FREEBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE.
Running the csh-shell everything works correctly inside screen.
But I have a user who is running the bash-shell.
Now this is happening:

Screen cannot read the .bash_profile unless I set the option in
.screenrc: shell -$SHELL.
I recognized this behavior when trying to run vim in screen. In
.bash_profile vim is set as alias of vi:
alias vi=vim.
But screen is not able to read this alias as long as it is set in
.bash_profile. If the alias is set in .cshrc:
alias vi vim
screen is running vim when typing vi (although the shell is still
bash). 

It seems to me that screen is only reading or reacting to the
csh-shell-environment and not to the actual given shell. I tried to set
in .screenrc: shell $SHELL - but no reaction. The only thing that helped is
to set in .screenrc
shell -$SHELL
then the .bash_profile and the bash-environment is accepted by screen.

How can I change this behavior?

Thanx in advance

Oliver
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Re: Sendmail and /var/spool/mqueue

2004-06-17 Thread Jerry McAllister
 
  What does it mean when I have a lot of files in /var/spool/mqueue?  I
  don't
  really understand what that particular queue is for.
 
 I believe the q is for messages that have failed, but have not yet
 expired...don't quote me though.

Pretty close. 
All Email messages seem to go their first - anyway, if the mailer doesn't
call sendmail on them right away directly - and then sendmail or whatever 
picks them out of there at its periodic intervals.  

 
 sb
 
  This client is not having any problems getting/sending mail, and the mailq
  command only shows one mail in the queue, but I have 3867 files in this
  directory.

Yah, all those extra messages in the mqueue are most likely ones that 
failed to get delivered for some non-permanent reason.   You can take 
a look at the 'q' files and see where they are supposed to go.  It is 
highly likely that they are bogus in some way and can be nuked.  But, 
it is also possible that some server was temporarily down and they will 
get delivered when it comes back up.

There should be a 'd' file for each 'q' file and vice versa.  We have
had occasions where some seemed to get orphanned with one file but
missing the other.  I don't remember if we ever figured out a reason.
I always nuked any orphans.

jerry

 
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RE: Keep log_in_vain Value

2004-06-17 Thread Matt \Cyber Dog\ LaPlante
 -Original Message-
 From: Bill Moran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 2:59 PM
 To: Matt Cyber Dog LaPlante
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Keep log_in_vain Value
 
 Matt \Cyber Dog\ LaPlante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   -Original Message-
   From: David Fuchs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   Matt Cyber Dog LaPlante wrote:
  
Ah, grep saves the day again.  It was being turned on in rc.network.
Thanks.
   
  
   You sure it wasn't being turned on in rc.conf instead?  Anything else
   would mean that someone was messing with rc.network or
   /etc/default/rc.conf, which really should be left alone.
 
  I'm positive...there is no log_in_vain entry in rc.conf.  It only
 appears in
  rc.network, where both tcp and udp were set to 1.
 
 That's really strange ... is you rc.network customized?  It really
 shouldn't
 be.
 
 The stock one only sets log_in_vain if /etc/rc.conf tells it to.
 
 --
 Bill Moran
 Potential Technologies
 http://www.potentialtech.com

Couldn't tell you, I didn't build this system.  It got dumped on me when I
took over a sysadmin job.  I guess it's just another checkmark on my list of
really strange things that have been done to this network. :)

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Re: ipfw question

2004-06-17 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
Hi Reuben,

Sorry for taking so long to reply.  My workstation at work which still
runs Fedora Core RC3 and not a real OS, like FreeBSD, decided to throw
away all outgoing email this morning.  Here's a repost extracted from
my =posted mailbox in Mutt [...]

On 2004-06-16 17:04, Reuben A. Popp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I believe that what I have is correct, and everything seems to be
 working well, with a few exceptions.  For instance, ftp and ssh still
 don't seem to make it into the logs, although the mail, web and
 web-ssl do with no problems.  Again, following this message is my
 revised ruleset.

Strange.  All incoming they should be logged.  Unless, of course, you
mean ftp and ssh connections that *you* start to the outside world, in
which case by reading the ruleset you will note that they are allowed
unconditionally, without logging, by a rule higher up the chain:

# Add all TCP connections that originate from us
ipfw add allow tcp from any to any out setup keep-state
# Pass and log all incoming ftp-data connections.
ipfw add allow log tcp from any 20 to any in setup keep-state
# Pass and log all incoming connections to: ftp, ssh, mail and www.
ipfw add allow log tcp from any to any 21,22,25,80,443 in setup keep-state

Since this doesn't log anything, all connections that your machine
starts towards another machine are passed through without logging.

If you want to log specific connections, you should use something like
this instead:

# Log ftp and ssh connections that we make.
ipfw add allow log tcp from any to any 21,22 out setup keep-state
# Let any other outgoing connections through, unlogged.
ipfw add allow tcp from any to any out setup keep-state

Note that you also have some rules that are useless in there.
Trim your ruleset a bit ;-)

The general idea with stateful filtering is that you set up a few
connections that are allowed to pass through and then let the packets
related to those connections pass too, but *nothing* else.  This is why
the general form of a stateful firewall with IPFW should be:

 rules that check states first 
 rules that selectively pass connections *and* create states 
 everything else blocked 

This way only the packets related to one of the states will pass
through.  Any other packets that require special handling (for instance,
ICMP packets) can be handled by other rules.

In your ruleset you have this:

# First of all state checking.  This will allow through any packet
# that is marked as legitimate by one of the following rules.
ipfw add check-state
ipfw add deny tcp from any to any established

# Add all TCP connections that originate from us
ipfw add allow tcp from any to any out setup keep-state

which should work without problems, and then you have:

# Allow TCP through if setup succeeded
ipfw add pass tcp from any to any established

This rule will never match with anything, since packets that could
possibly match are blocked by the 'established' rule right after
check-state above.  You can safely delete this rule.

Then you have this rule, that handles fragments in a special manner,
which is not very useful.

# Allow IP fragments to pass through
ipfw add pass all from any to any frag

AFAIK, any fragment that is related to an existing connection should
match with the check-state rule and will never reach this part of the
ruleset.  I think this can go too.

Finally, this rule is absolutely *not* good.  You've gone through all
the trouble to set up a stateful firewall so as NOT to be forced to
allow any incoming TCP connection through.  This single rule lets all
the connections through, effectively cancelling all of your filtering
rules :-(

# Allow setup of any other TCP connection
ipfw add pass tcp from any to any setup

You should definitely delete this one.  IMHO, it's a good idea to
replace it with a more strict rule like this:

# BLock everything else.
ipfw add deny ip from any to any

If you're too worried that this might break applications or protocols
that you're using now, try adding a log keyword to this last rule and
watch your system logs for dropped packets that are useful and should
have been allowed.  Then add special rules just for those packets.

Regards,

- Giorgos

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Re: Best place to spin down disk after boot?

2004-06-17 Thread Stefan A. Deutscher
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 12:37:22AM +, Stefan A. Deutscher wrote:
 
 Hi, I have a 5.1Release machine with currently four SCSI disks, out of
 which I need only two at any given time (system and /home). The other
 ones are an alternative system disk, and an OS/2 disk.

[ snip ]

 To reduce noise and heat production, I am going to spin down two SCSI
 disks on one of my machines with 
 
   camcontrol stop -n da -u 0
   camcontrol stop -n da -u 2
 

[ snip ]

 To spin down the disks right after boot, I ponder sticking things
 either in the /etc/rc.local (seems to be going out of style though) or
 as a separate script in /etc/rc.d/.  Any thoughts on that would be
 appreciated. As these commands take a while to return with a success
 message I'd like to do that in the background, and I wish to log it
 somewhere. Is there 'the right' way to send the camcontrol messages to
 syslog or the dmesg file (all true believers shall open their egg at
 the right end!)?


Following up to myself, I cooked the following script to be placed in
/etc/rc.d/, it works fine and does what I want it to do. Maybe it helps
someone else to save time to accomplish the same thing.
Now I just wonder whether it would be more elegant to place a script
that does the actual work in /usr/local/bin and just launch that one
from a small script in /etc/rc.d/. I suppose it's a matter of taste.
Oh - does stuff like this merit submission to ports?

[ --- cut here --- ]
#!/bin/sh
#
# Script to spin down unneeded SCSI disks right after system start
# and log this in the system log (which should be up by then) using
# /usr/bin/logger (the partition holding it should be mounted by then):

# PROVIDE: spindown_disks
# REQUIRE: mountall mountd syslogd
# KEYWORD: FreeBSD

LOGGER=/usr/bin/logger -s -t camcontrol

PROGNAME=`basename $0`

case $1 in 
start|faststart)

 ${LOGGER} Spinning down SCSI disks not needed ...
 ( /sbin/camcontrol stop -n da -u 0  /dev/null  \
${LOGGER} da0 stopped successfully. ) \
 || ${LOGGER} da0 could not be stopped

 ( /sbin/camcontrol stop -n da -u 2  /dev/null  \
${LOGGER} da2 stopped successfully. ) \
 || ${LOGGER} da2 could not be stopped
 ;;

stop)
 ;;

*)   
 echo ${PROGNAME}: unknown option '$1' - should be 'start', 'faststart' or 
'stop' 2
 ;;
esac

# eof.
[ --- cut here --- ]


Cheers, Stefan



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Re: Means of traversing a directory

2004-06-17 Thread Gerard Samuel
On Thursday 17 June 2004 10:31 am, Richard Caley wrote:
 In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gerard Samuel
 (gs) writes:

 gs Im running tar(1) to make a tar ball of a directory using the
 gs --newer-mtime to only get newer files after a specified date.
 gs Unfortunately, it also creates unwanted empty directories.

 Have you tried using find?

 If a relative time is good enough

 find DIR -type f -mtime -6

 if you need to specify a time and date, I think the only way is to use
 touch to makea file at the right date then use find's -newer test.

Well I made an ugly script, (50 lines), but it works.
Ill have to investigate on simplifying it, along with implementing absolute 
time with find, as that would eliminate me from using tar to get the newest 
files.
But the find commands that I used were -

# Blatantly remove CVS directories
find -d ./ -type d -regex '.*/CVS' -exec rm -rf {} \;

# Remove empty directories
find -d ./ -type d -exec rmdir {} \;

So Im good for now.
Thanks
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Re: FreeBSD community - best ever !

2004-06-17 Thread Remko Lodder
Hey Graham,
Graham Bentley wrote:
Have to say this :-
I have used alot of online resources and have had help
in many forms from far and wide.
Same goes for me ;)
Sometimes I have received ridicule and criticism and
condescending remarks for my inquisitiveness and
sometimes stupid questions.
So did i, also when i had a patch available etc, for a simple minor 
thing i got shouted at {well not litarly but.. ;) }

But as a new FreeBSD user I am amazed at the first 
off response and help I have had.
Well, as Jorn already said, i think this community is more mature, 
really want to help eachother, so everyone profits from it. So it's a 
honor to answer some questions from time to time (and ask questions as 
well) for me ;-)

Unbiased, polite, patient and informative.
How else would one get a clear explaination of what to do etc?
Hats off to FreeBSD supporters everywhere !
I'd agree
Its a great community !!!
Indeed, and you can make it better, by keep saying this ;) and trying to 
help us out (documentation project for example). Just a thought ;)

Cheers dude!
Thanks for the good news and your opinion

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RE: FreeBSD community - best ever !

2004-06-17 Thread Gary Hayers
Remko Lodder wrote:
 Hey Graham,
 
 Graham Bentley wrote:
 
 Have to say this :-
 
 I have used alot of online resources and have had help in many forms 
 from far and wide.
 
 Same goes for me ;)
 
 
 Sometimes I have received ridicule and criticism and condescending 
 remarks for my inquisitiveness and sometimes stupid questions.
 
 So did i, also when i had a patch available etc, for a simple minor 
 thing i got shouted at {well not litarly but.. ;) }
 
 
 But as a new FreeBSD user I am amazed at the first off response and 
 help I have had.
 
 Well, as Jorn already said, i think this community is more mature, 
 really want to help eachother, so everyone profits from it. So it's a 
 honor to answer some questions from time to time (and ask questions as 
 well) for me ;-)
 
 
 Unbiased, polite, patient and informative.
 
 How else would one get a clear explaination of what to do etc?
 
 
 Hats off to FreeBSD supporters everywhere !
 
 I'd agree
 
 
 Its a great community !!!
 
 Indeed, and you can make it better, by keep saying this ;) and trying 
 to help us out (documentation project for example). Just a thought ;)
 

I have to agree here too. In particular Mark Linimon has been of tremendous
help to me and I've seen other committers and indeed non committers giving
very valuable help all over the place.

Regards,

Gary Hayers

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Re: Keep log_in_vain Value

2004-06-17 Thread Bill Moran
Matt \Cyber Dog\ LaPlante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  -Original Message-
  From: Bill Moran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 2:59 PM
  To: Matt Cyber Dog LaPlante
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Keep log_in_vain Value
  
  Matt \Cyber Dog\ LaPlante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
-Original Message-
From: David Fuchs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   
Matt Cyber Dog LaPlante wrote:
   
 Ah, grep saves the day again.  It was being turned on in rc.network.
 Thanks.

   
You sure it wasn't being turned on in rc.conf instead?  Anything else
would mean that someone was messing with rc.network or
/etc/default/rc.conf, which really should be left alone.
  
   I'm positive...there is no log_in_vain entry in rc.conf.  It only
  appears in
   rc.network, where both tcp and udp were set to 1.
  
  That's really strange ... is you rc.network customized?  It really
  shouldn't
  be.
  
  The stock one only sets log_in_vain if /etc/rc.conf tells it to.
  
  --
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  Potential Technologies
  http://www.potentialtech.com
 
 Couldn't tell you, I didn't build this system.  It got dumped on me when I
 took over a sysadmin job.  I guess it's just another checkmark on my list of
 really strange things that have been done to this network. :)

Be warned ... it's likely that either /etc/rc.network, or /etc/defaults/rc.conf
have been modified.  Neither of these files should be cusomized, and both will
be (and should be) replaced the next time you update this machine.

Make sure you backup /etc and all subdirectories before you do the next upgrade,
in case the machine's behaviour changes enough that you have to search through
the old versions to see see what was going on!

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Re: firefox menu display issue

2004-06-17 Thread Geert Hendrickx
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 12:29:27PM -0400, Steve Tremblett wrote:
 
 This is a minor annoyance, but since I haven't seen anyone else comment
 on it I figure I should throw it out and see.
 
 When selecting any menu in firefox 0.9 (and 0.9_1), both the focus
 highlight and the menu title appear as a solid white bar with no text. 
 Has anyone seen this?  Any ideas on whether the problem lies within
 firefox or maybe gnome themes?  I'm using the Simple theme unchanged
 from its default, but a lot of gnome components were included in my
 update yesterday.

I'm having no problems using Firefox 0.9 with IceWM 1.2.14.  

GH
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Re: Shared Partition?

2004-06-17 Thread Geert Hendrickx
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 10:19:01AM -0500, Curtis Almond wrote:
 I am pretty sure the only way to do this is to have a FAT32 partition.
  I have not done this on FreeBSD but while playing with Xandros Linux
 I was able to get read/write access using a FAT partition.

FAT32 may be the only solution if you need read/write-access from both
systems, but for stuff like mp3, it may suffice to mount your Windows
NTFS-partition read-only.  FreeBSD can do that with mount_ntfs(8).  

I have setup such a thing for someone.  Read/write-access to a shared
FAT32-partition, and read-only acces to a Win2k NTFS-partition.  No
problem whatsoever.  

GH
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Re: vinum setup

2004-06-17 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
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Output wrapped.

On Thursday, 17 June 2004 at 12:04:01 -0400, synrat wrote:
 4.8

 I'm trying to setup partitions for vinum.
 I am in single user mode, but every time I try
 to modify swap size to accomodate for vinum confuration
 I get

 disklabel: ioctl DIOCWDINFO: open partition would move or shrink
 re-edit the label? [y]

 #size   offsetfstype   [fsize bsize bps/cpg]
   a: 21094400  21094404.2BSD 2048 1638489   # (Cyl.  131*- 1444*)
   b:  2109000  430  swap# (Cyl.0 - 131*)
   c: 1562481270unused0 0# (Cyl.0 - 9725*)
   e: 133044287 232038404.2BSD 2048 1638489  # (Cyl. 1444*- 9725*)
   h: 156248111   16 vinum   # (Cyl.0*- 9725*)

You can't change open partitions.  You also can't unmount swap.  If
you go from multi-user to single user mode, the swap remains mounted.
You'll need to boot to single user mode to do that.

If this doesn't answer your question, more details, please, including
any log messages.  Please don't wrap them.

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Re: Upgrading openssh

2004-06-17 Thread Eric Crist
On Thursday 17 June 2004 10:41, Nagilum wrote:
 Hi Eric,

 The base version of openssh is updated frequently (especially if any
 vulnerabilities are discovered), so why bother with the port?

 Kind regards,
 Alex.

 Eric Crist wrote:
 After figuring out perl (with the help of Matthew, I was wondering what
  the proper way to install/upgrade openssh.  I assume it's to install from
  ports, and somehow disable the installed, system version.
 
 What's the proper method?

Someone pointed out I was using an outdated version.  I just did a complete 
system upgrade the other day, so I assumed ports was the only way to go (I 
mean, look at the perl installation...)


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Dlink DSL router doesn't like FreeBSD

2004-06-17 Thread bob

I have had exactly the same experience with linux, using mandrake 10.
Everything works from my linux box on the lan to other hosts on the lan.
When I try to telnet on ports 22(ssh),25(smtp),80(http) and 110(pop3)
NOTHING WORKS. I can browse the web and send/recieve email with
Evolution/Thunderbird/Firefox without any problems BUT I cannot use
telnet for anything outside of the LAN when I am on my Linux box. My
windows laptop can do everything (I didn't try ssh because the windows
box doesn't have a client).

The only constant factor in this is the D-Link 504t. This has other
faults in it anyway, such as not restricting remote access to the
web-login screen once the latest firmware is installed. They missed out
essential features such as being able to configure the time when it
shipped, along with the option to connect on demand which was documented
in the mannual but not present in the config dispite being shown in
mannual's photographs. Not only this but the mannual was wrong on some
points too, showing a feature in one part of the web-config when it had
been moved to another section after the mannual was written.

Is anyone getting suspicious of the quality of this router ? I use it,
and it works, expect for this problem. I don't trust it very much though
and I will be glad to see the back of it when I upgrade, unless dlink
fix the problems listed above and restore my faith in this product.



On Fri, 14 May 2004, Walter C. Pelissero wrote:

 I'm trying to make work a D-Link 504T DSL router/switch with FreeBSD 
 5.2.1-RELEASE-p6. I've already realised that IPv6 is not supported by the router 
 so I compiled an IPv4-only kernel and got to work DNS, HTTP, and FTP. My problem 
 is that ssh and telnet don't work.  I get as far as the Password prompt, I type it 
 in, and then ssh freezes for a couple of minutes until it probably goes in timeout 
 and gives up. The D-Link help desk is useless; the only thing they suggested was 
 to return the router to where I bought it.  I've anyhow the impression that the 
 problem might not completely be the router's fault.  In fact I plugged a Windoze 
 machine, installed PuTTY, and ssh seems to work flawlessly. What am I missing 
 here?

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Re: Dlink DSL router doesn't like FreeBSD

2004-06-17 Thread bob

I forgot to add to this ... that if you monitor tcp/ip traffic with
tcpdump you can compare a sucessful connection on the internal lan with
a failure on when trying to connect to something on the internet.

Doing this you can see the syn-ack-syn process of a successful
pop/smtp/www connection on the lan, but when attempting to connect to on
the wan the reason it fails is because there is no reply to the inital
syn request, or subsequent syn requests sent out when the first one
fails to get a reply. I have cannot connect using ssh on the lan to test
that.

If ANYONE has a solution to this .. please post to me as well as this
list. I only made these posts to show that this is not an isolated
incident and defies sense trying to diagnose. I will post again when I
take the router out of the equation and replace with a windows box doing
connection sharing. That should be enough to start blaming the dlink if
it works with the windows box.

On Thu, 2004-06-17 at 23:49, bob wrote:
 I have had exactly the same experience with linux, using mandrake 10.
 Everything works from my linux box on the lan to other hosts on the lan.
 When I try to telnet on ports 22(ssh),25(smtp),80(http) and 110(pop3)
 NOTHING WORKS. I can browse the web and send/recieve email with
 Evolution/Thunderbird/Firefox without any problems BUT I cannot use
 telnet for anything outside of the LAN when I am on my Linux box. My
 windows laptop can do everything (I didn't try ssh because the windows
 box doesn't have a client).
 
 The only constant factor in this is the D-Link 504t. This has other
 faults in it anyway, such as not restricting remote access to the
 web-login screen once the latest firmware is installed. They missed out
 essential features such as being able to configure the time when it
 shipped, along with the option to connect on demand which was documented
 in the mannual but not present in the config dispite being shown in
 mannual's photographs. Not only this but the mannual was wrong on some
 points too, showing a feature in one part of the web-config when it had
 been moved to another section after the mannual was written.
 
 Is anyone getting suspicious of the quality of this router ? I use it,
 and it works, expect for this problem. I don't trust it very much though
 and I will be glad to see the back of it when I upgrade, unless dlink
 fix the problems listed above and restore my faith in this product.
 


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Re: Dlink DSL router doesn't like FreeBSB - FAULT CONFIRMED!!!

2004-06-17 Thread bob
here we go ... the router is rubbish for ssh and telnet

even dlink have said it is a problem!!!

http://www.broadbandreports.com/forum/remark,10278563~mode=flat

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need help on shell script

2004-06-17 Thread klr
Hi list,

I read http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/view/9074 and tried to adopt this
script to my ipfw firewall:

#!/bin/sh
tail -f /var/log/security | \
  awk '
$0 ~ /ICMP/ {
system(cat /root/sounds/icmp.wav  /dev/dsp );
}
$0 ~ /TCP/ {
system(cat /root/sounds/tcp.wav  /dev/dsp );
}
$0 ~ /UDP/ {
system(cat /root/sounds/udp.wav  /dev/dsp );
}
   '

This is what I got. However, sounds won't play one after another. e.g, if
3 packets are blocked at the same time, 2 TCP and one UDP, the system will
always wait for a sound to finish before playing the next. I want it to be
able to play the sounds in sequence (as fast as possible), but I couldn't
figure a way out!

Any shell script guru could give an helping hand? ;)

Regards

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Logging the message body from an MTA

2004-06-17 Thread Lonnie Santella
I need to log the message body of incoming and outgoing messages on my 
FreeBSD 5.2.1 Release server. I'm running Exim right now, but I really don't 
have a preference of MTA. The main thing is I need to facilitate the logging 
of message bodies.

I don't want to flood you with too many details, but we want to archive 
messages (including message body) to a MySQL database, so that we can 
quickly run queries and review messages from months/years ago - no matter 
who's mailbox it ended up in.

To accomplish this, we need to first log the message body somehow... 
anyhow... then commit the logs to the MySQL database.

I'd settle for learning how to do the first step. I've read through Exim 
docs and Sendmail docs, as well as various newsgroups - plenty of info on 
logging various data - but nothing on message bodies. I posted a message to 
the Exim news group - but no luck there.

I'm not set on Exim - I just want to log message bodies. Any help or a push 
in the right direction would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks,
Lonnie
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Re: need help on shell script

2004-06-17 Thread Adam Smith
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 08:15:23PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Hi list,
 
 I read http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/view/9074 and tried to adopt this
 script to my ipfw firewall:
 
 #!/bin/sh
 tail -f /var/log/security | \
   awk '
 $0 ~ /ICMP/ {
 system(cat /root/sounds/icmp.wav  /dev/dsp );
 }
 $0 ~ /TCP/ {
 system(cat /root/sounds/tcp.wav  /dev/dsp );
 }
 $0 ~ /UDP/ {
 system(cat /root/sounds/udp.wav  /dev/dsp );
 }
'
 
 This is what I got. However, sounds won't play one after another. e.g, if
 3 packets are blocked at the same time, 2 TCP and one UDP, the system will
 always wait for a sound to finish before playing the next. I want it to be
 able to play the sounds in sequence (as fast as possible), but I couldn't
 figure a way out!

This is the behaviour of the device, not your script.  Only one process can
access the device at any one time, and so your subsequent sounds must wait
for the first one to finish before it will be able to use /dev/dsp.

When using /dev/dsp, programs like artsd (which comes with KDE) allow other
artsd-aware programs to send sound events through the artsd daemon, and
artsd controls all the mixing of sounds together to send them out through
/dev/dsp.

So, you need something like this to play your events, rather than catting
them to /dev/dsp.  Unfortunately I don't know of any console programs that
do this.  Try looking in /usr/ports/audio :)


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