Re: perl question

2004-08-14 Thread jason
Bart Silverstrim wrote:
On Aug 13, 2004, at 1:10 AM, AlanSung wrote:
IMHO, bsdpan-* means install via cpan directory (not via ports),
p5-* means installed from ports..

Okay.  Nuts.  That's what I was afraid of.
I guess I was a little thrown because the bsdpan modules are showing 
up with portversion and portupgrade, which I had always associated 
with just the ports database and ports collection.

And yes, if you can find expected module in ports tree, it is better
install from ports than install from cpan driectly..

Okay...question...
When I set up this server, it was (at the time) just for the purpose 
of this portal server (web based).  I followed their directions for 
Linux and FreeBSD, and did it to the letter, etc...a lot of install 
this and this from CPAN using this command line instruction... etc. etc.

In this case, R'ing the F'ing M was apparently a bad idea :-(  Wish 
this server software were available as a port!

Anyway, I am tentatively hoping to replace the bsdpan modules with 
ports' p5 modules.  Is there a method AND ORDER to best attempt this, 
so the application (hopefully) won't break?  I don't want to install a 
p5 port and remove a bsdpan module only to have the bsdpan module 
erase parts of the p5 modules in the process :-(

-Bart
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I just noticed you have 2 threads on this.  Are they the same?
I think it was a case of R'ing the Wrong F'ing M.  My other post has 
some info.  Follow the docs you used to install the stuff to remove it.  
When you have your system back to a new clean enviroment use the ports 
to add what you want.
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Re: IBM x306 with Serial ATA Drives

2004-08-14 Thread jason
eric wrote:
I have an IBM x306 with two serial ATA drives. Unfortunately the
installer for 5.2.1 comes up with No disks found. Is there any
magic to get this machine to work?
Thanks.
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The last install I did was at least a year ago.  I want to say you can 
load or unload extra drivers for the installer before it begins.  Just 
build the drivers for it on put it on a cd or floppy and loadem up 
before you start the installer.  Does this sound right?  Its been a load 
time since I have done this.
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No sound from Avance Logic ALC655 onboard nForce2 sound card

2004-08-14 Thread Andrew J Caines
[Please follow up to Multimedia]

5.2.1-RELEASE-p9 with pcm in kernel identifies onboard nForce2 card (K7
Triton GA-7N400-L mobo, enabled in BIOS), creates devices and behaves
correctly in every way except for producing any sound. No errors.

The /dev/{audio*,dsp*} devices appear to read sound data, but nothing
comes out of the jacks.

Searching the web and list archives has turned up nothing similar. All
ideas appreciated.

# cat /dev/sndstat 
FreeBSD Audio Driver (newpcm)
Installed devices:
pcm0: Nvidia nForce2 at io 0xb000, 0xb400 irq 5 bufsz 16384 (1p/1r/0v channels 
duplex default)

# egrep pcm /var/run/dmesg.boot 
pcm0: Nvidia nForce2 port 0xb400-0xb47f,0xb000-0xb0ff mem 0xe7001000-0xe7001fff irq 
5 at device 6.0 on pci0
pcm0: Avance Logic ALC655 AC97 Codec (id = 0x414c4760)
pcm0: Codec features 5 bit master volume, no 3D Stereo Enhancement
pcm0: Primary codec extended features reserved 1, center DAC, surround DAC, LFE DAC, 
reserved 5
pcm0: sndbuf_setmap 29a000, 4000; 0xe5b6d000 - 29a000
pcm0: sndbuf_setmap 2a2000, 4000; 0xe5b71000 - 2a2000
pcm0: measured ac97 link rate at 48018 Hz, will use 48000 Hz

# mixer
Mixer vol  is currently set to  50:50
Mixer pcm  is currently set to  75:75
Mixer speaker  is currently set to  75:75
Mixer line is currently set to  75:75
Mixer mic  is currently set to   0:0
Mixer cd   is currently set to  75:75
Mixer rec  is currently set to   0:0
Mixer ogainis currently set to  50:50
Mixer line1is currently set to  75:75
Mixer phin is currently set to   0:0
Mixer phoutis currently set to   0:0
Recording source: mic

# ls -l /dev/{audio*,dsp*,mixer*}
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   4 Aug 11 23:39 /dev/audio0.0
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30, 0x00010004 Aug 11 23:39 /dev/audio0.1
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   3 Aug 14 01:30 /dev/dsp0.0
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30, 0x00010003 Aug 11 23:39 /dev/dsp0.1
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   5 Aug 11 23:39 /dev/dspW0.0
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30, 0x00010005 Aug 11 23:39 /dev/dspW0.1
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,  11 Aug 11 23:39 /dev/dspr0.0
crw-rw-rw-  1 root  wheel   30,   0 Aug 11 23:39 /dev/mixer0



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Fetchmail/Sendmail rejects

2004-08-14 Thread Malcolm Kay
I run fetchmail in daemon mode to download
POP3 mail from my ISP.

Sendmail rejects many messages as for example:
Aug 14 16:59:33 beta sm-mta[35000]: i7E7DYje035000: 
  ruleset=check_mail, arg1=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
  relay=localhost.home [127.0.0.1], reject=451 
  4.1.8 Domain of sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  does not resolve

I am quite happy to have these rejected but it seems they don't 
get deleted at the ISP end and clog up the mail box, I think 
eventually confusing fetchmail.

Is there some reasonable way of disposing of these messages. I would
prefer not to download these into my normal user mailbox but I would 
be quite happy to divert them to some pseudo user setup for the 
purpose. I would imagine sendmail can be coaxed into doing this, but
how?

Responding to 2 or 3 lists using a valid e-mail address means that
I receive a lot of spam including much with unresolvable addresses.

I would appreciate any ideas.

Malcolm 

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Re: Best way to keep large ports uptodate

2004-08-14 Thread Johan Pettersson
 Only thing I can think of is that I have CPUTYPE as I686 in my custom
 kernel and as p3 in /etc/make.conf.  Should I try changing
 /etc/make.conf to I686? The computer is a 600MHz p3.

No. The settings you got is exactly right for your CPU. :)
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Re: Updating Emacs without installing X?

2004-08-14 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-08-13 23:49, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Your Name wrote:
  First i want to upgrade Emacs from an older version, but when i try
  to do this from ports it starts trying to install a whole bunch of X
  stuff.

 Emacs requires XFree libraries, and I think imake, in order to build
 and run.

That's not true.  Emacs can be built without X11 support if necessary:

$ ldd `which emacs`
/usr/local/bin/emacs:
libutil.so.4 = /lib/libutil.so.4 (0x28168000)
libncurses.so.5 = /lib/libncurses.so.5 (0x28174000)
libm.so.2 = /lib/libm.so.2 (0x281b3000)
libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x281cd000)
$

This version of Emacs has been built from the ports.  I've used WITHOUT_X11
on the command line to force Emacs to build without any X11 support.

Giorgos

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USB scanner

2004-08-14 Thread Fractal
Does uscanner driver on FreeBSD 4.8-stable support USB 2.0 interface?
It seems that my scanner (EPSON Perfection 2400) does not work at 
maximum speed. Besides this, it becomes inaccessible via scanimage 
(sane-find-scanner also cannot find it) in several time interval 
after system startup if it was not used during this time, and to 
work with it again it's necessary to completely restart computer. 

Thanks in advance.
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Re: OT: Dead hard drive

2004-08-14 Thread Henrik W Lund
Paul wrote:
Henrik W Lund wrote:
Has anyone got any clue as to what may have happened, and how one can 
go about accessing the drive?

Take the electronics board from a similar drive and use it to run your 
bad drive.

Does the drive at least spin up?
Yes, the drive spins up perfectly. Sadly, it's quite an old drive, and I 
don't have any other drives like it (it's a 30GB IBM DTLA-307030), so I 
don't have any electronics boards that will fit. Oh well, I can at least 
leave it lying around, just in case. ;-)

-Henrik W Lund
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Re: USB scanner

2004-08-14 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 01:32:17PM +0400, Fractal wrote:
 Does uscanner driver on FreeBSD 4.8-stable support USB 2.0 interface?
 It seems that my scanner (EPSON Perfection 2400) does not work at 
 maximum speed. Besides this, it becomes inaccessible via scanimage 
 (sane-find-scanner also cannot find it) in several time interval 
 after system startup if it was not used during this time, and to 
 work with it again it's necessary to completely restart computer. 


4.8-STABLE is a bit old, could you try on a 4.10 please?

Marc
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Re: Dead hard drive

2004-08-14 Thread Henrik W Lund
Kurt wrote:
You might try the freezer trick.
Bag the drive securely against moisture, put it in the freezer for
several hours, then put it back in the machine while still very cold,
and see if it responds. If it does, get the data you need from it
quickly.
You may require several attempts to get all of the data you need, or it
may not work at all, but all it costs is a litle time.
 

Quite the unorthodox suggestion there, but I'll try anything once. ;-)
Just have to make sure that the condensed humidity doesn't fry anything. 
Leave all the cables plugged in and hanging outside the bag, maybe? 
Hmm... Now where did I put that spare extension power cable?

-Henrik W Lund
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Re: Laptop overheating problem.

2004-08-14 Thread Henrik W Lund
Laszlo Antal wrote:
Hi,
So my laptop was working just fine but after a whole day of usage
everything slowed down, my physical memory was 89% full, and the
openoffice did not want to start at all.As soon as it happend I knew
the problem is I did not hear the cooling fan.
After shutdown about a hour I turned back on and everything was
working again very fast.I hope I didn't brake anything!
Here are the spec about the laptop::
Toshiba Satellit A15-S157, 2.2ghz proc, 512mb ram.
I installed FreeBSD 4.10 on it, adn I use KDE desktop.
Is there any built in or third party program I can install to turn on
the cooling fan when is necessary??
Or do I need to make some change in my installation??
Thank you soo much for all the answers.
Laszlo 
Greetings!
I'm pretty sure the cooling fan is hardware controlled (at least for 
laptops), and that no change you do to the system will affect the 
cooling fan in any way. I know that if you put your laptop in your lap, 
it can overheat (your thighs certainly do after a while!), especially if 
you place it on a pillow or some other soft object that prevents air 
from circulating properly around your laptop. Another thing, leave your 
laptop plugged in (i.e. to the power grid) whenever possible, as things 
like fans and such usually run at lower speeds or in shorter intervals 
when the laptop is running off of the battery.

Have you checked the BIOS for any cooling fan settings? Switch them on 
if they're off or not at full speed. Try placing the laptop flat on a 
table and leave it running. If the laptop still overheats, my guess is 
that it's a hardware problem.

Hope this helps!
-Henrik W Lund
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Re: Problems connecting a digital camera

2004-08-14 Thread Norbert Koch
* v dot velox at vvelox dot net:

| I find this second one works nicely. Turn on user mount and install
| wmmount and it works nicely :)

Hmm, still no onions.  Using a card reader, I get

umass0: SMSC 223 USB97C223, rev 2.00/1.95, addr 2
da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
da0: SMSC 223 U HS-CF 1.95 Removable Direct Access SCSI-0 device 
da0: 650KB/s transfers
da0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present

Looks like I'm still missing something ...

norbert.
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Re: mozilla and courier-imap

2004-08-14 Thread cpghost
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 07:47:55PM +0200, Radek Kozlowski wrote:
 On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 12:50:22PM -0400, Richard Coleman wrote:
  I'm using the most recent ports for mozilla and courier-imap on an 
  up-to-date FreeBSD-stable.  Very often I will not see new messages in a 
  folder until I restart mozilla.  I was convinced it was mozilla that was 
  broken, but I've seen similar behavior using Thunderbird on my Windows 
  box.  Now I'm not so sure.
  
  Anyone else seen this?
  
  What is another decent IMAP client in ports?
 
 I had the same problem with Thunderbird (both on FreeBSD and Windows)
 and I blamed Mozilla. But then I was told that Courier-IMAP is not very
 standards-compliant IMAP implementation and tried Dovecot (mail/dovecot)
 instead. It turned out that Courier was the one to blame. With Dovecot
 Thunderbird was showing mail like it should. FWIW, I don't have any
 problems with it in mutt+imap either.

No problems with cyrus-imap and mutt(+esmtp). Thunderbird also works
as it should with cyrus-imap. Didn't test Courier though.

 -Radek

-cpghost.

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propolice patch on 4.10

2004-08-14 Thread Siddhartha Jain
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I wanted the propolice protection for my 4.10 FreeBSD install. So I
downloaded the latest available propolice patch (for 4.8) and patched
the source (seemed to go ok). Now after going thru the entire rebuild
process, how do I verify that the propolice thing is active and fine?
thanks,
Siddhartha
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security run output

2004-08-14 Thread Chris
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First time I've ever seen this:


server.tcslea.org kernel log messages:
 ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE

(one long line - sorry for the wrapping)

It appears to be CPU related, but in what context? Is it something I need to 
investigate, and if so, how?

Thanks,
Chris
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Re: /etc and /usr/local/etc directories

2004-08-14 Thread Scott Mitchell
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 11:20:38AM -0400, Jim Trigg wrote:
 
 But most of what's in /usr/local/etc is machine-specific.

Not if you have a lab/office with a hundred workstations all running the
same set of third-party apps, it isn't.

Cheers,

Scott

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cd and dvd burning program K3b and permissions for non-root users.

2004-08-14 Thread edwinculp
I've installed K3b and it works great for the root user but I can't get it to work for 
any non-privileged user even though I have put the user in the wheel group and have 
set sysctl vfs.usermount=1, cd0 has permissions set to 666, the same in devfs.conf 
(That solves the problem for xmms but not for k3b.  I have tried to suid and kde won't 
let it start.  I'm out of ideas.  After this much time, I'm sure that I'm making a 
mountain out of a mole hill and I'm missing something very simple.

Any help would be appreciated.  I can't see my users using burncd


Thanks

ed

P.S. Machines are running current and are AMD Athlon

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Re: /etc/make.conf

2004-08-14 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Roberto Nunnari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 As announced yesterday..
 
 ..today I finished the upgrade process and all went just fine.
 
 ...have you had the chance to find out whether perl is needed at
 all in 5.2.1?

I'm sorry, but I haven't.

[I just moved to a new house this week and I can't even *find* my
scratch machine yet.]
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Re: Fetchmail/Sendmail rejects

2004-08-14 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 05:40:58PM +0930, Malcolm Kay wrote:
 I run fetchmail in daemon mode to download
 POP3 mail from my ISP.
 
 Sendmail rejects many messages as for example:
 Aug 14 16:59:33 beta sm-mta[35000]: i7E7DYje035000: 
   ruleset=check_mail, arg1=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
   relay=localhost.home [127.0.0.1], reject=451 
   4.1.8 Domain of sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   does not resolve
 
 I am quite happy to have these rejected but it seems they don't 
 get deleted at the ISP end and clog up the mail box, I think 
 eventually confusing fetchmail.
 
 Is there some reasonable way of disposing of these messages. I would
 prefer not to download these into my normal user mailbox but I would 
 be quite happy to divert them to some pseudo user setup for the 
 purpose. I would imagine sendmail can be coaxed into doing this, but
 how?
 
 Responding to 2 or 3 lists using a valid e-mail address means that
 I receive a lot of spam including much with unresolvable addresses.
 
 I would appreciate any ideas.

Fetchmail (nor getmail) will do this for you. I don't know of any
(other) program that allow you to do this on the client side. You can do
this if you have shell access to the ISP server with procmail. Can you
tell me if you have access to those files? (It doesn't make much sence
going in to that rigth now.)

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Re: security run output

2004-08-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 07:57:58AM -0500, Chris wrote:
 *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro*
 
 
 
 First time I've ever seen this:
 
 
 server.tcslea.org kernel log messages:
  ffFPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE
 
 (one long line - sorry for the wrapping)
 
 It appears to be CPU related, but in what context? Is it something I need to 
 investigate, and if so, how?

No -- that's entirely harmless. If you look at /var/run/dmesg.boot,
you see that it's just part of the normal kernel output during boot.
Specifically it's a list of the capabilities of your CPU.

What's happened is that the message buffer has somehow got truncated
at the beginning, and you're seeing just the end of that particular
line.  For some reason, the daily security script thinks it's
significant kernel output, but it isn't really.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: portupgrade/ports question

2004-08-14 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 12:14:23PM -0400, Bart Silverstrim wrote:
 Situation:
 I set up a portal server as per the instructions at their site; it 
 involved installing some PERL modules from CPAN, which I have since 
 learned on FreeBSD appears to be a no no...
 
 Now I have some updates to do, but I don't want it to interfere with 
 the web portal software.  In theory, the updates should just replace 
 the CPAN stuff where they overlap, no?  When I do some updates on 
 software (like ClamAV) that apparently *uses* some of these modules, I 
 get the error:
 pkg_delete: package bsdpan-MIME-tools-5.411 has no origin recorded
 pkg_delete: package bsdpan-MailTools-1.62 has no origin recorded
 pkg_delete: package bsdpan-MIME-tools-5.411 has no origin recorded
 pkg_delete: package bsdpan-MailTools-1.62 has no origin recorded
 
 but these errors aren't enough to keep it from completing the update on 
 the software in question. Portversion is yielding:
 
 # portversion | grep -v =
 apache  
 bsdpan-Archive-Zip  
 bsdpan-DBD-mysql
 bsdpan-DBI  
 bsdpan-IO-stringy   
 bsdpan-Lingua-EN-NameParse  
 bsdpan-MIME-tools   #
 bsdpan-Mail-POP3Client  
 bsdpan-MailTools#
 bsdpan-Spreadsheet-WriteExcel  
 bsdpan-Test-Manifest
 bsdpan-URI  
 bsdpan-Unicode-String   
 bsdpan-XML-RSS  
 bsdpan-perl-ldap
 expat   
 ezm3
 libiconv
 m4  
 openssl 
 p5-libwww   
 perl
 rc_subr 
 rsync   
 ruby
 
 
 Meaning some PAN modules are of *higher* versions than available 
 through ports?  How?
 
 Can I safely try upgrading those modules?  Has anyone run into 
 something like this before?

I have got these may times over. You have nothing to wurry about. If you
check with pkg_version then you will see that non of them are reported
with a higher version (i.e. ). 

You can rebuilt varius package related stuf to be on the safe side. One
command is portsdb -uU.  There can be one or two other relevant command
but i don't know these by memory. You can find them, do, in the
portupgrade manual.


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Re: Fetchmail/Sendmail rejects

2004-08-14 Thread Lowell Gilbert
Alex de Kruijff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 05:40:58PM +0930, Malcolm Kay wrote:

  Is there some reasonable way of disposing of these messages.
 
 Fetchmail (nor getmail) will do this for you.

Specifically, see the SPAM FILTERING section of the fetchmail(1)
manual, and the --antispam option.  

Figure out what kind of error response sendmail is giving for the
problem messages, and make sure fetchmail knows that it is allowed to
throw those messages away.
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Re: Security log question

2004-08-14 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 07:46:47PM -0500, James A. Coulter wrote:
 This message has  been showing up in /var/log/security:
 
   Aug  6 01:56:44 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
   Aug  6 16:40:05 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
   Aug  7 13:25:23 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
   Aug  7 15:32:00 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
   Aug  7 15:32:03 sara last message repeated 3 times
   Aug  8 22:30:53 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
   Aug 10 19:47:31 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
   Aug 11 11:11:46 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
   Aug 11 13:08:15 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
   Aug 11 13:10:26 sara last message repeated 12 times
   Aug 11 13:20:34 sara last message repeated 55 times
   Aug 11 13:30:00 sara last message repeated 66 times
   Aug 11 16:49:26 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
   Aug 11 16:49:58 sara last message repeated 5 times
   Aug 11 16:52:04 sara last message repeated 20 times
   Aug 11 17:02:01 sara last message repeated 93 times
   Aug 11 17:18:01 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
   Aug 11 17:23:03 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
 
 I'm running FreeBSD 4.10 with IPFW and NAT as a gateway/router/firewall for a home 
 LAN.  I am the only user (I hope!) with access to this system.
 
 I googled the drop session message and found e-mail correspondence indicating this 
 message is a result of having too many telnet or ssh sessions open at the same time 
 and could be an indication of a DOS attack.
 
 I have disabled telnet in inetd.conf.  I am running ftp with anonymous log-in 
 disabled and ssh with root login disabled.  I am also running apache 1.3.
 
 Is this message something I should investigate further, or is it like the script 
 kiddies who scan my ports every night - just something to live with?

Yes, but I don't think you are likly at risk to have someone bracking in
on you system. You're server proberbly just handle the traffic nicly.
You need to investigate further to find out what is causing this and
what you can do about it.

P.S. I notices you have very lone lines in you'r mail and use mutt.
Whould you consider adding the following line to .muttrc (and install
vim) so that this is automaticly wraped at 72 char?

set editor=vim +':set tw=72' +':set ww=,,h,l,[,]' %s


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Re: Running Mozilla FireBird 6.1.6 Under Linux Emulation On FreeBSD 4.10

2004-08-14 Thread Jud
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 07:50:17 +, Rob DeMarco  
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On Fri, 2004-08-13 at 15:55, Paul Mather wrote:

You should be able to use portupgrade to upgrade your linux_base-6.1_6
to a more recent version.  This does assume you have the ports tree
installed (and preferably up to date via cvsup) under /usr/ports...
  While I have some familiarity with the ports tree, I didn't install
it this time because of limited disk space (though I suppose I could
do a partial port-tree install).  Also, my P150 makes compiles long
and painful :)
  To avoid all that, I'm trying to see if a simple binary pkg_add
to Linux-emul 7 would do the trick.
Portupgrade can be made to use packages (see the man page), avoiding the  
compile problem.

If you don't have portupgrade (sysutils/portupgrade), then you should
install it.  It's really useful!
What he said.
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Re: Running Mozilla FireBird 6.1.6 Under Linux Emulation On FreeBSD 4.10

2004-08-14 Thread Paul Mather
On Sat, 2004-08-14 at 03:50, Rob DeMarco wrote:

   While I have some familiarity with the ports tree, I didn't install
 it this time because of limited disk space (though I suppose I could
 do a partial port-tree install).  Also, my P150 makes compiles long
 and painful :)
   To avoid all that, I'm trying to see if a simple binary pkg_add
 to Linux-emul 7 would do the trick.

You can instruct portupgrade to use binary packages only when
upgrading.  See the -PP option for details.

Be careful when using partial ports trees that you get all the portions
a package needs.  (Portupgrade still needs to be able to determine what
the latest version is of a port and its dependencies.)

Also, if you do decide to force-delete emulators/linux_base 6 and
pkg_add emulators/linux_base 7 then be sure to run pkgdb -F to fix up
the dependencies.

 I could try a direct pkg_add from the FBSD-5 ports tree (it all
 goes into /compat anyway, right?) but I'm not sure about the kld
 issue.  Anyway, I'll think about my options, and whether compiling
 from scratch is really worth it for me.  Thanks for your help!

There is a linux_base-7.1_7.tgz in the packages-4.10-release/emulators
directory on ftp.freebsd.org (under /pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386).  That
would be a better option for you, IMHO, if you're running 4-STABLE.

I seem to recall when installing linux_base-8 that the only thing it
actually compiled and built was the rpm package (a dependency).  The
rest was just fetching and unpacking various RPMs.  So, I wouldn't worry
about too much compilation demands for this particular port.

Cheers,

Paul.
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Re: Fetchmail/Sendmail rejects

2004-08-14 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Saturday 14 August 2004 23:37, Chuck Swiger wrote:
 Malcolm Kay wrote:
 [ ... ]

  I am quite happy to have these rejected but it seems they don't
  get deleted at the ISP end and clog up the mail box, I think
  eventually confusing fetchmail.

 You ought to convince your ISP to apply better spam filtering before they
 accept messages for you, which will reduce the problem you see.


I agree except that my ISP already provides extensive SPAM filtering. The 
problem is with those that don't trip the ISP's spam filter. I am able to 
set the spam trigger level -- maybe I should be setting this lower. But
I don't believe unsolvable addresses is included in his criteria.

  Responding to 2 or 3 lists using a valid e-mail address means that
  I receive a lot of spam including much with unresolvable addresses.

 Nowadays, you can receive a lot of spam regardless of what you do, so it
 helps to reject most of it immediately.

Agreed

Malcolm

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IS freebsd.org working

2004-08-14 Thread JJB
Trying to get to FreeBSD handbook and www.freebsd.org is coming up
as not reachable.

Any body else having same problem

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Problem: changing IP address

2004-08-14 Thread Parahat Melayev
Hi list,
When I change my IP Address (fxp0) from sysinstall,
system does not activate new settings.
It is activated only when I reboot system.
what may be the problem?
do I need restart something?
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Re: IS freebsd.org working

2004-08-14 Thread Marc Fonvieille
On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 01:38:23PM -0400, JJB wrote:
 Trying to get to FreeBSD handbook and www.freebsd.org is coming up
 as not reachable.
 
 Any body else having same problem


The machine serving www.FreeBSD.org is down.  Please use a mirror, for
example www.CC.FreeBSD.org where CC is a country code, or
http://www2.freebsd.org/, http://www3.freebsd.org/ etc.

Marc
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Re: Problem: changing IP address (solved)

2004-08-14 Thread Parahat Melayev
Sorry,
I just figured out that I need to refresh
network interfaces to activate new settings
# /etc/netstart

Parahat Melayev wrote:
Hi list,
When I change my IP Address (fxp0) from sysinstall,
system does not activate new settings.
It is activated only when I reboot system.
what may be the problem?
do I need restart something?
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Re: IS freebsd.org working

2004-08-14 Thread Tim Hawkins
On Saturday 14 August 2004 18:38, JJB wrote:
Yes its down for me too, I have been trying to register a PR all day. 

 Trying to get to FreeBSD handbook and www.freebsd.org is coming up
 as not reachable.

 Any body else having same problem

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Re: Problem: changing IP address

2004-08-14 Thread George V. Neville-Neil
At Sat, 14 Aug 2004 23:35:54 +0300,
Parahat Melayev wrote:
 
 Hi list,
 When I change my IP Address (fxp0) from sysinstall,
 system does not activate new settings.
 
 It is activated only when I reboot system.

Yes you have to reboot or use the ifconfig(8) program.

Later,
George
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Broadcast radio station over internet.

2004-08-14 Thread JJB
Looking for port that has web application for changing radio
stations on Radio tuner card and them stream broadcast over
internet. Anybody know of such port or combo of ports to achieve
this? Any suggestions on how to do this?

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Re: cd and dvd burning program K3b and permissions for non-root users.

2004-08-14 Thread edwinculp
 Chuck Swiger wrote:
  Edwin Culp wrote:
  I've installed K3b and it works great for the root user but I
 can't get it
  to work for any non-privileged user even though I have put the
 user in the
  wheel group and have set sysctl vfs.usermount=1, cd0 has
 permissions set to
  666, the same in devfs.conf (That solves the problem for xmms
 but not for k3b.
 
 I believe k3b runs dvd+rw-tools underneath, so you might consider
 making
 dvd+rw-tools setuid-root.  See the port's Makefile if you have
 questions.

Thanks, Chuck.  I saw that dvd+rw-tools wasn't installed so I checked the make file 
and found that it depends on:
   cdrecord:${PORTSDIR}/sysutils/cdrtools \
   cdrdao:${PORTSDIR}/sysutils/cdrdao

So I set the uid-root on cdrecord, readcd and cdrdao.  It still doesn't find cd0.  I 
must have missed one.  I'm going to keep looking.

Thanks again, I was sure that was it.

ed


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Re: Fetchmail/Sendmail rejects

2004-08-14 Thread SD
On Saturday 14 August 2004 09:10, Malcolm Kay wrote:
 I run fetchmail in daemon mode to download
 POP3 mail from my ISP.

 Sendmail rejects many messages as for example:
 Aug 14 16:59:33 beta sm-mta[35000]: i7E7DYje035000:
   ruleset=check_mail, arg1=[EMAIL PROTECTED],
   relay=localhost.home [127.0.0.1], reject=451
   4.1.8 Domain of sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   does not resolve

 I am quite happy to have these rejected but it seems they don't
 get deleted at the ISP end and clog up the mail box, I think
 eventually confusing fetchmail.

-Z 451 on cli will have fetchmail trash all messages for which MTA 
returns code 451. There's an equivilent fetchmailrc option (antispam 
iirc).

 Is there some reasonable way of disposing of these messages. I would
 prefer not to download these into my normal user mailbox but I would
 be quite happy to divert them to some pseudo user setup for the
 purpose. I would imagine sendmail can be coaxed into doing this, but
 how?

 Responding to 2 or 3 lists using a valid e-mail address means that
 I receive a lot of spam including much with unresolvable addresses.

 I would appreciate any ideas.

 Malcolm

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Re: Fetchmail/Sendmail rejects

2004-08-14 Thread Shantanoo
Malcolm Kay wrote:
I run fetchmail in daemon mode to download
POP3 mail from my ISP.
Sendmail rejects many messages as for example:
Aug 14 16:59:33 beta sm-mta[35000]: i7E7DYje035000: 
  ruleset=check_mail, arg1=[EMAIL PROTECTED], 
  relay=localhost.home [127.0.0.1], reject=451 
  4.1.8 Domain of sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  does not resolve

I am quite happy to have these rejected but it seems they don't 
get deleted at the ISP end and clog up the mail box, I think 
eventually confusing fetchmail.

Is there some reasonable way of disposing of these messages. I would
prefer not to download these into my normal user mailbox but I would 
be quite happy to divert them to some pseudo user setup for the 
purpose. I would imagine sendmail can be coaxed into doing this, but
how?

Responding to 2 or 3 lists using a valid e-mail address means that
I receive a lot of spam including much with unresolvable addresses.
I would appreciate any ideas.
Malcolm 
have a look at mail/filtermail
Regards,
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Fwd: Re[2]: sysinstall doesn't detect my harddrive

2004-08-14 Thread Iuliu Pascaru
Hello JJB,

Saturday, August 14, 2004, 9:08:34 PM, you wrote:

J [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

J This is an known bug in 5.0 thats why there is now 5.2.1. The 5.x
J branch is an development version no intended for regular use. 5.3
J development is scheduled for Aug 20. Try using 4.10 stable instead
J of any of the 5.x development versions.

Thank you very much! I thought that nobody knows the answer to my question,
or worse, i begun to think that everybody is avoiding to give me an
answer... Thank you once more time! I'll consider your recomendation.
hoping that everihing will be OK!


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Re: mozilla and courier-imap

2004-08-14 Thread Uwe Laverenz
On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 12:50:22PM -0400, Richard Coleman wrote:

 I'm using the most recent ports for mozilla and courier-imap on an 
 up-to-date FreeBSD-stable.  Very often I will not see new messages in a 
 folder until I restart mozilla.  I was convinced it was mozilla that was 

What do you mean with a folder? If you mean the normal INBOX, just
increase the value of MAXPERIP in /usr/local/etc/courier-imap/imapd.
This value must be increased for use with mozilla (16 should be fine).

If you mean any folder, you have to tell Mozilla to monitor this folder
for new incoming mails (right-click on the folder...).

Generally Courier-Imap works perfectly with Mozilla: I have several servers
running it with many users of Mozilla-Mail.

cu,
Uwe

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freebsd's galery

2004-08-14 Thread Paulo Roberto

What happened to it? I couldn't find it...




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Re: IS freebsd.org working

2004-08-14 Thread John Murphy
JJB wrote:
Trying to get to FreeBSD handbook and www.freebsd.org is coming up
as not reachable.

Any body else having same problem

Me too.  I browse this list via http://docs.freebsd.org and it's been
down all day.  http://www.uk.freebsd.org/ is still working though :)

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Re: IS freebsd.org working

2004-08-14 Thread Tim Hawkins
On Saturday 14 August 2004 23:29, John Murphy wrote:
 JJB wrote:
 Trying to get to FreeBSD handbook and www.freebsd.org is coming up
 as not reachable.
 
 Any body else having same problem

 Me too.  I browse this list via http://docs.freebsd.org and it's been
 down all day.  http://www.uk.freebsd.org/ is still working though :)

Sadly you cannot the PR system via that as it cgi posts back to 
www.freebsd.org :-{
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FreeBSD scanners

2004-08-14 Thread Anton Alin-Adrian
Please, if any of you has confident experience with any of the following 
scanners under FreeBSD, please let me know. I must find something available 
for buying and it must work smoothly in FreeBSD (otherwise there's no point 
of buying a new scanner, as I already have one which is not working in 
anything else but Windows..)

EPSON perfection 1670
EPSON perfection 1670 Photo
EPSON perfection 3170 photo
EPSON perfection 2400 photo
EPSON perfection 3200 photo
EPSON perfection 4870 photo
EPSON perfection 2480 photo
EPSON Expression 1680
EPSON Expression 1680 Pro
EPSON GT 1XL
EPSON GT - 15000
EPSON GT - 3
MUSTEK ScanExpress 1248 UB Plus
MUSTEK Bear Paw 1200 CU Plus
MUSTEK Bear Paw 1200 Fast
MUSTEK Bear Paw 2400 CU Plus
MUSTEK Bear Paw 2448CS Plus
MUSTEK Bear Paw 2448 TA Plus
MUSTEK Bear Paw 4800 TA PRO II
HP ScanJet 2400
HP ScanJet 3670
HP ScanJet 3690
HP ScanJet 3970
HP ScanJet 4600
HP ScanJet 4670
HP ScanJet 5590
HP ScanJet 8200
HP ScanJet 2400C
HP ScanJet 3670C
HP ScanJet 3690C
HP ScanJet 3970C
HP ScanJet 4070C
HP ScanJet 4600C
HP ScanJet 4670C
HP ScanJet 5530C
Thank you for your help and time.
Yours Sincerely,
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find -exec surprisingly slow

2004-08-14 Thread Paul A. Hoadley
Hello,

I'm in the process of cleaning a Maildir full of spam.  It has
somewhere in the vicinity of 400K files in it.  I started running
this yesterday:

find . -atime +1 -exec mv {} /home/paulh/tmp/spam/sne/ \;

It's been running for well over 12 hours.  It certainly is
working---the spams are slowly moving to their new home---but it is
taking a long time.  It's a very modest system, running 4.8-R on a
P2-350.  I assume this is all overhead for spawning a shell and
running mv 400K times.  Is there a better way to move all files based
on some characteristic of their date stamp?  Maybe separating the find
and the move, piping it through xargs?  It's mostly done now, but I
will know better for next time.


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Re: FreeBSD scanners

2004-08-14 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Sunday, 15 August 2004 at  1:46:17 +0300, Anton Alin-Adrian wrote:
 Please, if any of you has confident experience with any of the following
 scanners under FreeBSD, please let me know. I must find something available
 for buying and it must work smoothly in FreeBSD (otherwise there's no point
 of buying a new scanner, as I already have one which is not working in
 anything else but Windows..)

 EPSON ...
 MUSTEK ...
 HP ScanJet ...

I don't know any of these, but I'd be interested to hear opinions.
One maker I can't recommend is Canon.  See
http://www.lemis.com/grog/product-reviews/Canon-breakage.html for more
details.

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Re: IS freebsd.org working

2004-08-14 Thread John Murphy
Tim Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Saturday 14 August 2004 23:29, John Murphy wrote:
 JJB wrote:
 Trying to get to FreeBSD handbook and www.freebsd.org is coming up
 as not reachable.
 
 Any body else having same problem

 Me too.  I browse this list via http://docs.freebsd.org and it's been
 down all day.  http://www.uk.freebsd.org/ is still working though :)

Sadly you cannot the PR system via that as it cgi posts back to 
www.freebsd.org :-{

True.  The OP should find the handbook is available there though.

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Re: find -exec surprisingly slow

2004-08-14 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 08:31:43AM +0930, Paul A. Hoadley wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm in the process of cleaning a Maildir full of spam.  It has
 somewhere in the vicinity of 400K files in it.  I started running
 this yesterday:
 
 find . -atime +1 -exec mv {} /home/paulh/tmp/spam/sne/ \;
 
 It's been running for well over 12 hours.  It certainly is
 working---the spams are slowly moving to their new home---but it is
 taking a long time.  It's a very modest system, running 4.8-R on a
 P2-350.  I assume this is all overhead for spawning a shell and
 running mv 400K times.

I wouldn't make that assumption. The overhead for starting new
processes is probably only a relatively small part of the time.

You seem to have missed the fact that operations on very large
directories (which a directory with 400K files in it certainly
qualifies as) simply are slow.
A directory is essentially just a list of the names of all the files in
it and their i-nodes.  To find a given file in a directory (e.g. in
order to create, delete or rename it) the system needs to do a linear
search through all the files in the directory. For directories
containing large number of files this can take some time.

If you have the UFS_DIRHASH kernel option enabled (which I believe is
the default since 4.5-R) then the system will keep bunch of hash-tables
in memory to avoid having to search through the whole directory every
time.  There is however an upper limit to how much memory will be used
for such hashtables (2MB by default) and if this limit is exceeded
(which it probably is in your case) things will slow down again.
The effect of the UFS_DIRHASH option is effectively that instead of
directory operations starting to slow down after a few thousand files
in the same directory, you can have a few tens of thousands of files
before operations start to become noticably slower.

I am quite certain that if those 400K files had been divided into 40
directories, each with 10K files in it, things would have been much
faster.


  Is there a better way to move all files based
 on some characteristic of their date stamp?  Maybe separating the find
 and the move, piping it through xargs?  It's mostly done now, but I
 will know better for next time.

Reducing the number of processes spawned will certainly help some, but
a better idea is to not have so many files in a single directory - that
is just asking for trouble.


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Re: find -exec surprisingly slow

2004-08-14 Thread Matthew Seaman
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 08:31:43AM +0930, Paul A. Hoadley wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I'm in the process of cleaning a Maildir full of spam.  It has
 somewhere in the vicinity of 400K files in it.  I started running
 this yesterday:
 
 find . -atime +1 -exec mv {} /home/paulh/tmp/spam/sne/ \;
 
 It's been running for well over 12 hours.  It certainly is
 working---the spams are slowly moving to their new home---but it is
 taking a long time.  It's a very modest system, running 4.8-R on a
 P2-350.  I assume this is all overhead for spawning a shell and
 running mv 400K times.  Is there a better way to move all files based
 on some characteristic of their date stamp?  Maybe separating the find
 and the move, piping it through xargs?  It's mostly done now, but I
 will know better for next time.

Yup.  Invoking mv 40,000 times is not particularly efficient.
Something like this would have been better:

find . -atime +1 -print0 | xargs -0 -J % mv % /home/paulh/tmp/spam/sne/

xargs defaults to taking up to 5,000 arguments from it's stdin to
generate the mv commands (or up to ARG_MAX - 4096 = 61440 bytes), so
that would have done the job with only 8 or so invocations of mv.

Cheers,

Matthew

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Re: FreeBSD scanners

2004-08-14 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004, Anton Alin-Adrian wrote:
EPSON perfection 1670
http://www.sane-project.org says it has good support for the 1670.
There's an entry for the printer in /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/uscanner.c 
(FreeBSD 4.10), so FreeBSD should detect it as a uscanner device. 
(Assuming you'll be using USB; can't say how other interfaces work.)

Based on my experience with the Epson Perfection 1640SU (works fine), 
this would be the way I'd look.  Epson is better about assisting the 
open-source community than many other manufacturers.

It may be possible to get the Expression 1680 to work, because SANE 
says it has complete support for it.

There's no entry for the scanner in uscanner.c, but adding entries isn't 
difficult; usbdevs -v will tell you the ID numbers.  It's not a 
guarantee that it would work, though.

-Warren Block * Rapid City, South Dakota USA
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Re: propolice patch on 4.10

2004-08-14 Thread horio shoichi
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Following code (and the instruction) has been snatched from somewhere
discussing Solaris propolice. If you need the credibility, or better
solution please search them yourself.

% cat test-propolice.c
/* test-propolice.c */

#define OVERFLOW This is longer than 10 bytes

int main (int argc, char *argv[])
{ char buffer[10]; strcpy(buffer, OVERFLOW); return 0;
} 
% cc test-propolice.c
% ./a.out
Abort (core dumped)
% tail -2 /var/log/messages
Aug 15 08:15:48 hydra a.out: stack overflow in function main
Aug 15 08:15:48 hydra /kernel: pid 75040 (a.out), uid 100: exited on signal 6 (core 
dumped)
% cc -fno-stack-protector test-propolice.c
% ./a.out
Segmentation fault (core dumped)
% tail -3 /var/log/messages
Aug 15 08:15:48 hydra a.out: stack overflow in function main
Aug 15 08:15:48 hydra /kernel: pid 75040 (a.out), uid 100: exited on signal 6 (core 
dumped)
Aug 15 08:19:05 hydra /kernel: pid 75051 (a.out), uid 100: exited on signal 11 (core 
dumped)
%

Above test is done on 4.9-STABLE.

Note the propolice produced messages:

o Abort on terminal, and
o stack overflow in log file.




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Re: Fetchmail/Sendmail rejects

2004-08-14 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Sunday 15 August 2004 04:34, you wrote:
 Malcolm Kay wrote:
  I run fetchmail in daemon mode to download
  POP3 mail from my ISP.
 
  Sendmail rejects many messages as for example:
  Aug 14 16:59:33 beta sm-mta[35000]: i7E7DYje035000:
ruleset=check_mail, arg1=[EMAIL PROTECTED],
relay=localhost.home [127.0.0.1], reject=451
4.1.8 Domain of sender address [EMAIL PROTECTED]
does not resolve
 
  I am quite happy to have these rejected but it seems they don't
  get deleted at the ISP end and clog up the mail box, I think
  eventually confusing fetchmail.
 
  Is there some reasonable way of disposing of these messages. I would
  prefer not to download these into my normal user mailbox but I would
  be quite happy to divert them to some pseudo user setup for the
  purpose. I would imagine sendmail can be coaxed into doing this, but
  how?
 
  Responding to 2 or 3 lists using a valid e-mail address means that
  I receive a lot of spam including much with unresolvable addresses.


 have a look at mail/filtermail


I've just downloaded this port and find it quite interesting. However it
seems not to offer very much in this particular case as the criteria used 
are similar to those used by my ISP to reject mail -- I'm able to set the 
level. But I don't see a way of getting filtermail to reject based on 
domain name resolution.

Others have pointed out that spam filtering in fetchmail can be used to 
delete mail based on the error code returned by sendmail. It seems it 
might also be reasonable to change sendmail.cf to issue a 553 error in place
of the 451 as the 553 invoking messages are deleted by fetchmail by default.

Thanks for the thought and bringing an interesting port to my attention.

Malcolm

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Re[2]: security run output

2004-08-14 Thread Chris
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 ... MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE

No -- that's entirely harmless. If you look at /var/run/dmesg.boot,
you see that it's just part of the normal kernel output during boot.
Specifically it's a list of the capabilities of your CPU.

What's happened is that the message buffer has somehow got truncated
at the beginning, and you're seeing just the end of that particular
line.  For some reason, the daily security script thinks it's
significant kernel output, but it isn't really.


Odd, because I haven't booted in awhile. This just showed up out of the blue this one 
time, and has never shown up before.

Thanks for the info, though.
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Re: find -exec surprisingly slow

2004-08-14 Thread Garance A Drosihn
At 8:31 AM +0930 8/15/04, Paul A. Hoadley wrote:
Hello,
I'm in the process of cleaning a Maildir full of spam.  It has
somewhere in the vicinity of 400K files in it.  I started running
this yesterday:
find . -atime +1 -exec mv {} /home/paulh/tmp/spam/sne/ \;
It's been running for well over 12 hours.  It certainly is
working---the spams are slowly moving to their new home---but
it is taking a long time.  It's a very modest system, running
4.8-R on a P2-350.  I assume this is all overhead for spawning
a shell and running mv 400K times.
Some of it is that, and some of it is the performance-penalty of
deleting files from a directory which has 400K filenames in it,
only to add the same files into a directory which will eventually
have 400K filenames in it.  Directory adds/deletes are not fast
when a directory has that many filenames.  It is probably even
worse if there are other processes still working on the same
directory (such as sendmail importing more mail).
Where is '.' in the above `find .' command?  Is it is on the same
partition as /home/paulh/tmp/spam/sne/ ?
You may find it much faster to do something like:
mkdir usermail.new
chown user:group usermail.new
mv usermail usermail.bigspam
mv usermail.new usermail
cd usermail.bigspam
find . \! -atime +1 -exec mv {} ../usermail \;
My assumption there is that you have a LOT fewer good files than
you have bad files, so there will be fewer files to move.  But I
am also making the assumption that all your files are in a single
directory (and not a tree of directories), which may be a bad
assumption.
Is there a better way to move all files based on some characteristic
of their date stamp?  Maybe separating the find and the move, piping
it through xargs?
The thing to use is the '-J' option of xargs.  That way you can
have the destination-directory be the last argument in the command
that gets executed, and yet you're still moving as many files in
a single `mv' command as possible.  E.g., change my earlier `find'
command to:
find . \! -atime +1 -print0 | xargs -0J[] mv [] ../usermail
Check the man page for xargs for a description of -J
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Re: Fetchmail/Sendmail rejects

2004-08-14 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Sunday 15 August 2004 00:12, Lowell Gilbert wrote:
 Alex de Kruijff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 05:40:58PM +0930, Malcolm Kay wrote:
   Is there some reasonable way of disposing of these messages.
 
  Fetchmail (nor getmail) will do this for you.

 Specifically, see the SPAM FILTERING section of the fetchmail(1)
 manual, and the --antispam option.

 Figure out what kind of error response sendmail is giving for the
 problem messages, and make sure fetchmail knows that it is allowed to
 throw those messages away.

On Sunday 15 August 2004 04:15, SD wrote:

 -Z 451 on cli will have fetchmail trash all messages for which MTA
 returns code 451. There's an equivilent fetchmailrc option (antispam
 iirc).

Thanks guys for the responses -- this really looks the way to go.

Does anyone know how sendmail distinguishes between:
 reject=451 4.1.8 Domain of sender address  does not resolve
 reject=553 5.1.8 .. Domain of sender address .. does not exist
It seems the former is to be interpreted as a 'temporary' condition while the latter
is to be interpreted as 'permanent' (and is by default deleted by fetchmail)?

Thanks

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sgi_fam/tcp server

2004-08-14 Thread Tim Kellers
Console message:

Aug 14 20:10:25 www inetd[645]: sgi_fam/tcp server failing (looping), service 
terminated

Anyone know what this message means?  I tried searching on www.freebsd.org, 
but the site is down.  This is on a FBSD-CURRENT i386 box, but I wanted to 
ask here before I asked on the Current list.

uname -a:

FreeBSD www.smsdesign.org 5.2-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT #4: Sat Aug  7 
18:41:05 EDT 2004 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BRASIDAS  i386

Thanks

Tim Kellers
CPE/NJIT
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trouble with sysinstall

2004-08-14 Thread Edward Carmody
Hi,

When trying to do anything from sysinstall, I get the following error:

Can't find the `5.2.1-RELEASE-p8' distribution on this x
x FTP server.  You may need to visit a
different server forx
x the release you are trying to fetch or go
to the Options x
x menu and to set the release name to
explicitly match what's  x
x available on ftp1.freebsd.org (or set to
any). x
x
x
x Would you like to select another FTP
server?  


Any ideas?


Edward Carmody, CCNP
Systems Engineer
ShoreGroup, Inc.
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Re: sgi_fam/tcp server

2004-08-14 Thread Joe Marcus Clarke
On Sat, 2004-08-14 at 20:28, Tim Kellers wrote:
 Console message:
 
 Aug 14 20:10:25 www inetd[645]: sgi_fam/tcp server failing (looping), service 
 terminated
 
 Anyone know what this message means?  I tried searching on www.freebsd.org, 
 but the site is down.  This is on a FBSD-CURRENT i386 box, but I wanted to 
 ask here before I asked on the Current list.

If you recently upgraded to a GCC 3.4.2 -CURRENT, you need to rebuild
devel/fam.

Joe

 
 uname -a:
 
 FreeBSD www.smsdesign.org 5.2-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT #4: Sat Aug  7 
 18:41:05 EDT 2004 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BRASIDAS  i386
 
 Thanks
 
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Re: sgi_fam/tcp server

2004-08-14 Thread Tim Kellers
On Saturday 14 August 2004 08:30 pm, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
 On Sat, 2004-08-14 at 20:28, Tim Kellers wrote:
  Console message:
 
  Aug 14 20:10:25 www inetd[645]: sgi_fam/tcp server failing (looping),
  service terminated
 
  Anyone know what this message means?  I tried searching on
  www.freebsd.org, but the site is down.  This is on a FBSD-CURRENT i386
  box, but I wanted to ask here before I asked on the Current list.

 If you recently upgraded to a GCC 3.4.2 -CURRENT, you need to rebuild
 devel/fam.

 Joe

  uname -a:
 
  FreeBSD www.smsdesign.org 5.2-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT #4: Sat Aug  7
  18:41:05 EDT 2004
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BRASIDAS  i386
 
  Thanks
 
  Tim Kellers
  CPE/NJIT

Wow...  what a speedy response!  Thanks Joe!
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new NVIDIA driver is released

2004-08-14 Thread Ara Avvali
Hi
There is a new version on NVIDIA site for those who are interested


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Re: new NVIDIA driver is released

2004-08-14 Thread Glyn Tebbutt
On Sun, 2004-08-15 at 01:36, Ara Avvali wrote:
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Re: sgi_fam/tcp server

2004-08-14 Thread Tim Kellers
On Saturday 14 August 2004 08:30 pm, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:
 On Sat, 2004-08-14 at 20:28, Tim Kellers wrote:
  Console message:
 
  Aug 14 20:10:25 www inetd[645]: sgi_fam/tcp server failing (looping),
  service terminated
 
  Anyone know what this message means?  I tried searching on
  www.freebsd.org, but the site is down.  This is on a FBSD-CURRENT i386
  box, but I wanted to ask here before I asked on the Current list.

 If you recently upgraded to a GCC 3.4.2 -CURRENT, you need to rebuild
 devel/fam.

 Joe

  uname -a:
 
  FreeBSD www.smsdesign.org 5.2-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT #4: Sat Aug  7
  18:41:05 EDT 2004
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/BRASIDAS  i386
 
  Thanks
 
  Tim Kellers

$ gcc --version
gcc (GCC) 3.3.3 [FreeBSD] 20031106
Copyright (C) 2003 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

I thought I already had gcc 3.4, but I don't.  fam is fam-2.6.9_6.

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Re: Fetchmail/Sendmail rejects

2004-08-14 Thread Chuck Swiger
Malcolm Kay wrote:
[ ... ]
Thanks guys for the responses -- this really looks the way to go.
Does anyone know how sendmail distinguishes between:
 reject=451 4.1.8 Domain of sender address  does not resolve
 reject=553 5.1.8 .. Domain of sender address .. does not exist
It seems the former is to be interpreted as a 'temporary' condition while the latter
is to be interpreted as 'permanent' (and is by default deleted by fetchmail)?
Sendmail pays attention to the return value from doing DNS queries.  If 
sendmail receives an NXDOMAIN response, it treats that as a permanent, 5xx 
failure code.  If sendmail gets a timeout/TRY_AGAIN, it will return a 4xx temp 
failure.

It's not clear to me why this would matter if your ISP is the one running the 
mailserver: they aren't accepting the message in either case, which ought to 
mean that fetchmail will never see it.

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Re: Problems with Firefox Package

2004-08-14 Thread jason
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|  clean   make reinstall.
When I had 0.91 installed and saw that a newer version was out I did
portupgrade firefox, but the build failed so it did'nt touch my
installed version so I left it as is and decided I'd wait for a binary
release of it. When the binary came I went to the port and did a make
deinstall, than pkg_add firefox.tgz. Everything in theory should be
cleaned up cause of the make deinstall, but perhaps I need to update my
entire set of libs. I'll probably try and get portupgrade todo all my
packages and retry it.
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Just as a last thought, did you run firefox as root before you used it 
after the upgrade?
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Re: find -exec surprisingly slow

2004-08-14 Thread Paul A. Hoadley
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 01:32:35AM +0200, Erik Trulsson wrote:

 You seem to have missed the fact that operations on very large
 directories (which a directory with 400K files in it certainly
 qualifies as) simply are slow.

Good point.  I had overlooked that.

 Reducing the number of processes spawned will certainly help some,
 but a better idea is to not have so many files in a single directory
 - that is just asking for trouble.

I'm not sure that I can make qmail do anything else.  These are spams
sent to non-existent addresses at my domain, being caught by
.qmail-default.  What I am going to do is clear out the Maildir daily
instead of monthly, though.  Collecting them has become a significant
drain on disk space---the 400K spams are the result of about a month
and a half of collection.


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Re: find -exec surprisingly slow

2004-08-14 Thread Paul A. Hoadley
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 12:39:33AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:

 find . -atime +1 -print0 | xargs -0 -J % mv % /home/paulh/tmp/spam/sne/
 
 xargs defaults to taking up to 5,000 arguments from it's stdin to
 generate the mv commands (or up to ARG_MAX - 4096 = 61440 bytes), so
 that would have done the job with only 8 or so invocations of mv.

Thanks for that.


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Re: find -exec surprisingly slow

2004-08-14 Thread Paul A. Hoadley
On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 08:11:54PM -0400, Garance A Drosihn wrote:

 Where is '.' in the above `find .' command?  Is it is on the same
 partition as /home/paulh/tmp/spam/sne/ ?
 
 You may find it much faster to do something like:
 mkdir usermail.new
 chown user:group usermail.new
 mv usermail usermail.bigspam
 mv usermail.new usermail
 cd usermail.bigspam
 find . \! -atime +1 -exec mv {} ../usermail \;
 
 My assumption there is that you have a LOT fewer good files than
 you have bad files, so there will be fewer files to move.  But I
 am also making the assumption that all your files are in a single
 directory (and not a tree of directories), which may be a bad
 assumption.

All assumptions correct, and that is what I should have done.

 The thing to use is the '-J' option of xargs.  That way you can have
 the destination-directory be the last argument in the command that
 gets executed, and yet you're still moving as many files in a single
 `mv' command as possible.  E.g., change my earlier `find' command
 to:
 find . \! -atime +1 -print0 | xargs -0J[] mv [] ../usermail
 
 Check the man page for xargs for a description of -J

Will do.  Thanks for the tip.


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Re: Fetchmail/Sendmail rejects

2004-08-14 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Sunday 15 August 2004 10:40, Chuck Swiger wrote:
 Malcolm Kay wrote:
 [ ... ]

  Thanks guys for the responses -- this really looks the way to go.
 
  Does anyone know how sendmail distinguishes between:
   reject=451 4.1.8 Domain of sender address  does not
  resolve reject=553 5.1.8 .. Domain of sender address
  .. does not exist It seems the former is to be interpreted as
  a 'temporary' condition while the latter is to be interpreted as
  'permanent' (and is by default deleted by fetchmail)?

 Sendmail pays attention to the return value from doing DNS queries.  If
 sendmail receives an NXDOMAIN response, it treats that as a permanent, 5xx
 failure code.  If sendmail gets a timeout/TRY_AGAIN, it will return a 4xx
 temp failure.


This sort of takes us back one more level -- how does the DNS service decide 
between responding with NXDOMAIN and a timeout/TRY_AGAIN? And does the
difference have any real significance?

 It's not clear to me why this would matter if your ISP is the one running
 the mailserver: they aren't accepting the message in either case, which
 ought to mean that fetchmail will never see it.

None of it is particularly clear to me -- but apparently my ISP's server is
not rejecting these messages.

If all mail servers rejected these messages it would seem to me to make the 
spammers endeavours rather pointless.

Thanks,

Malcolm

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Re: Security log question

2004-08-14 Thread James A. Coulter
On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 04:39:58PM +0200, Alex de Kruijff wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 11, 2004 at 07:46:47PM -0500, James A. Coulter wrote:
  This message has  been showing up in /var/log/security:
  
  Aug  6 01:56:44 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
  Aug  6 16:40:05 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
  Aug  7 13:25:23 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
  Aug  7 15:32:00 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
  Aug  7 15:32:03 sara last message repeated 3 times
  Aug  8 22:30:53 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
  Aug 10 19:47:31 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
  Aug 11 11:11:46 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
  Aug 11 13:08:15 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
  Aug 11 13:10:26 sara last message repeated 12 times
  Aug 11 13:20:34 sara last message repeated 55 times
  Aug 11 13:30:00 sara last message repeated 66 times
  Aug 11 16:49:26 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
  Aug 11 16:49:58 sara last message repeated 5 times
  Aug 11 16:52:04 sara last message repeated 20 times
  Aug 11 17:02:01 sara last message repeated 93 times
  Aug 11 17:18:01 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
  Aug 11 17:23:03 sara /kernel: drop session, too many entries
  
  I'm running FreeBSD 4.10 with IPFW and NAT as a gateway/router/firewall for a home 
  LAN.  I am the only user (I hope!) with access to this system.
  
  I googled the drop session message and found e-mail correspondence indicating 
  this message is a result of having too many telnet or ssh sessions open at the 
  same time and could be an indication of a DOS attack.
  
  I have disabled telnet in inetd.conf.  I am running ftp with anonymous log-in 
  disabled and ssh with root login disabled.  I am also running apache 1.3.
  
  Is this message something I should investigate further, or is it like the script 
  kiddies who scan my ports every night - just something to live with?
 
 Yes, but I don't think you are likly at risk to have someone bracking in
 on you system. You're server proberbly just handle the traffic nicly.
 You need to investigate further to find out what is causing this and
 what you can do about it.
 
 P.S. I notices you have very lone lines in you'r mail and use mutt.
 Whould you consider adding the following line to .muttrc (and install
 vim) so that this is automaticly wraped at 72 char?
 
 set editor=vim +':set tw=72' +':set ww=,,h,l,[,]' %s
 
 
 -- 
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Alex - thanks for the response and for the .muttrc tip.  I added it and hopefully my 
mail will now wrap at 72 characters.

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Re: Fetchmail/Sendmail rejects

2004-08-14 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Aug 15), Malcolm Kay said:
 This sort of takes us back one more level -- how does the DNS service decide 
 between responding with NXDOMAIN and a timeout/TRY_AGAIN? And does the
 difference have any real significance?

NXDOMAIN means that a server replied this domain does not exist, and
usually indicates a forged or mistyped domain.  A timeout is just that. 
No authoritative servers replied, at all.  This is usually due to
misconfiguration or server failure at the domain in question, and
mailers should retry the lookup later.

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Re: Fetchmail/Sendmail rejects

2004-08-14 Thread Malcolm Kay
On Sunday 15 August 2004 11:26, Malcolm Kay wrote:
 On Sunday 15 August 2004 10:40, Chuck Swiger wrote:
  Malcolm Kay wrote:
  [ ... ]
 
   Thanks guys for the responses -- this really looks the way to go.
  
   Does anyone know how sendmail distinguishes between:
reject=451 4.1.8 Domain of sender address  does not
   resolve reject=553 5.1.8 .. Domain of sender address
   .. does not exist It seems the former is to be interpreted
   as a 'temporary' condition while the latter is to be interpreted as
   'permanent' (and is by default deleted by fetchmail)?
 
  Sendmail pays attention to the return value from doing DNS queries.  If
  sendmail receives an NXDOMAIN response, it treats that as a permanent,
  5xx failure code.  If sendmail gets a timeout/TRY_AGAIN, it will return a
  4xx temp failure.

 This sort of takes us back one more level -- how does the DNS service
 decide between responding with NXDOMAIN and a timeout/TRY_AGAIN? And does
 the difference have any real significance?

  It's not clear to me why this would matter if your ISP is the one running
  the mailserver: they aren't accepting the message in either case, which
  ought to mean that fetchmail will never see it.

 None of it is particularly clear to me -- but apparently my ISP's server is
 not rejecting these messages.

 If all mail servers rejected these messages it would seem to me to make the
 spammers endeavours rather pointless.


Perhaps I've not made it clear that the above reject messages appear in the 
maillog on my local machine as a consequnce of fetchmail reposting the messages 
to local sendmail.

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Re[2]: find -exec surprisingly slow

2004-08-14 Thread Gary
Hi Paul,

On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 11:09:55 +0930 UTC (8/14/2004, 8:39 PM -0500 UTC my
time), Paul A. Hoadley trunco scripsit:

 Reducing the number of processes spawned will certainly help some,
 but a better idea is to not have so many files in a single directory
 - that is just asking for trouble.

P I'm not sure that I can make qmail do anything else.  These are spams
P sent to non-existent addresses at my domain, being caught by
P .qmail-default.

Question... why do you have a .qmail-default file to begin with? If you have
proper namespace or .qmail- files for your users, it is not necessary at
all... all would then be bounced. Or if you wish just to drop mail coming in
to .qmail-default, just put a # in it...

P  What I am going to do is clear out the Maildir daily
P instead of monthly, though.  Collecting them has become a significant
P drain on disk space---the 400K spams are the result of about a month
P and a half of collection.

I would never think of collecting them at all, not even allow them in. There
are several techniques just to block them at SMTP negotiation all together,
so they don't even enter your system...

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Re: Fetchmail/Sendmail rejects

2004-08-14 Thread Chuck Swiger
Malcolm Kay wrote:
On Sunday 15 August 2004 10:40, Chuck Swiger wrote:
[ ... ]
Sendmail pays attention to the return value from doing DNS queries.  If
sendmail receives an NXDOMAIN response, it treats that as a permanent, 5xx
failure code.  If sendmail gets a timeout/TRY_AGAIN, it will return a 4xx
temp failure.
This sort of takes us back one more level -- how does the DNS service decide 
between responding with NXDOMAIN and a timeout/TRY_AGAIN?
Dan provided a good answer to this.
And does the difference have any real significance?
The real significance is that a 5xx response means the other side should give 
up and never attempt to redeliver that message.  A 4xx response means the 
other MTA will keep retrying for several days.

You want to reject spam permanently, and you want to do it as close to the 
source as possible.  Meaning, you don't want to accept the message for 
relaying to some other machine, then have that other machine reject the 
message, because then your machine becomes responsible for generating a 
bounce.  Which then clogs up your machine when bounces for spam are not 
deliverable.

It's not clear to me why this would matter if your ISP is the one running
the mailserver: they aren't accepting the message in either case, which
ought to mean that fetchmail will never see it.
None of it is particularly clear to me -- but apparently my ISP's server is
not rejecting these messages.
You should forward the log messages you showed us to your ISP, and ask them 
what's going on.  Their mailservers should be rejecting the messages for the 
same reason your mailserver does.

[ Hmm, I suppose it could also indicate that you have problems with your local 
DNS resolver, if you are getting lots of temp failures your ISP isn't. 
Unlikely, though, but you could test by switching to using their nameservers 
if you aren't doing so already. ]

If all mail servers rejected these messages it would seem to me to make the 
spammers endeavours rather pointless.
Spammers forge mail from legitimate addresses as well, but it certainly helps 
to reject mail from invalid domains.

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Re: Re[2]: find -exec surprisingly slow

2004-08-14 Thread Bill Moran
Gary [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Paul,
 
 On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 11:09:55 +0930 UTC (8/14/2004, 8:39 PM -0500 UTC my
 time), Paul A. Hoadley trunco scripsit:
 
  Reducing the number of processes spawned will certainly help some,
  but a better idea is to not have so many files in a single directory
  - that is just asking for trouble.
 
 P I'm not sure that I can make qmail do anything else.  These are spams
 P sent to non-existent addresses at my domain, being caught by
 P .qmail-default.
 
 Question... why do you have a .qmail-default file to begin with? If you have
 proper namespace or .qmail- files for your users, it is not necessary at
 all... all would then be bounced. Or if you wish just to drop mail coming in
 to .qmail-default, just put a # in it...
 
 P  What I am going to do is clear out the Maildir daily
 P instead of monthly, though.  Collecting them has become a significant
 P drain on disk space---the 400K spams are the result of about a month
 P and a half of collection.
 
 I would never think of collecting them at all, not even allow them in. There
 are several techniques just to block them at SMTP negotiation all together,
 so they don't even enter your system...

I have to second this.  You should never accept email destin for users that
don't exist, you should bounce it with a 5xx error prior to even accepting
the data portion of the SMTP transmission.

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Re: find -exec surprisingly slow

2004-08-14 Thread Paul A. Hoadley
Hello,

On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 09:13:32PM -0500, Gary wrote:

 P I'm not sure that I can make qmail do anything else.  These are spams
 P sent to non-existent addresses at my domain, being caught by
 P .qmail-default.
 
 Question... why do you have a .qmail-default file to begin with? If
 you have proper namespace or .qmail- files for your users, it is not
 necessary at all... all would then be bounced. Or if you wish just
 to drop mail coming in to .qmail-default, just put a # in it...

Good question---without context, my claim that I can do nothing else
seems wrong.  What I should have said is given I have an interest in
collecting all the spams to non-existent addresses, I don't think I
can make qmail do anything other than deliver it to the new/ subdir of
a Maildir.

The original problem was that _bouncing_ these messages is
fruitless---they almost invariably have a forged From address.  I'm
getting on average about 10,000 of them per day, so there were
constantly several thousand messages in my queue, as well as several
thousand bounced bounces and failures in my postmaster mailbox every
day.

IMHO, these messages should be _rejected_ at the SMTP session, though
(AFAICS) qmail won't do this (without being patched).  (I am sure I
once read a security justification for this behaviour, though I
can't seem to find any justification for it at all now.  I am willing
to be convinced otherwise, but IMHO, accepting these messages is bogus
behaviour.)  Anyway, I was about to embark on tracking down a patch to
do SMTP-level rejection, when I decided I would just funnel them into
a Maildir and use them later to train Bogofilter, or whatever.

 P  What I am going to do is clear out the Maildir daily
 P instead of monthly, though.  Collecting them has become a significant
 P drain on disk space---the 400K spams are the result of about a month
 P and a half of collection.
 
 I would never think of collecting them at all, not even allow them
 in.

I may soon change my mind, though my original plan was to put the spam
to use.  The sheer volume looks like making that plan unworkable.  :-)

 There are several techniques just to block them at SMTP negotiation
 all together, so they don't even enter your system...

Techniques for qmail?  Without patching it?  I thought I had RTFMd
pretty thoroughly, but I am willing to be enlightened.


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[OT] Re: find -exec surprisingly slow

2004-08-14 Thread stheg olloydson
it was said:

I'm not sure that I can make qmail do anything else.  These are spams
sent to non-existent addresses at my domain, being caught by
.qmail-default.  What I am going to do is clear out the Maildir daily
instead of monthly, though.  Collecting them has become a significant
drain on disk space---the 400K spams are the result of about a month
and a half of collection.

Hello,

What I would do is avoid the problem in the first place by not having a
.qmail-default. I don't know how important being sure you have no false
positive spam rejections to incorrect/misspelled addresses is to you,
but is it worth accepting hundreds of thousands of spams and then
looking through them to find the very few that may be legitimate? I
think you would be better off creating variations in the users' .qmail
file, such as paul.hoadley@, phoadley@, [EMAIL PROTECTED] That could been done
via a script that gets called when you create a user, so the only extra
work would be to write script the first time and plugging it in. (Of
course, you would have to run it against your existing users, too.)
As I said, I don't know what your requirements are, just my 2% of the
applicable currency's base unit.

HTH,

Stheg





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Re: Re[2]: find -exec surprisingly slow

2004-08-14 Thread Paul A. Hoadley
On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 10:27:29PM -0400, Bill Moran wrote:

 I have to second this.  You should never accept email destin for
 users that don't exist, you should bounce it with a 5xx error prior
 to even accepting the data portion of the SMTP transmission.

I agree completely.  I can't see how to make qmail do this,
though---have I overlooked something?


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Re: find -exec surprisingly slow

2004-08-14 Thread Bill Moran
Paul A. Hoadley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 09:13:32PM -0500, Gary wrote:
 
  P I'm not sure that I can make qmail do anything else.  These are spams
  P sent to non-existent addresses at my domain, being caught by
  P .qmail-default.
  
  Question... why do you have a .qmail-default file to begin with? If
  you have proper namespace or .qmail- files for your users, it is not
  necessary at all... all would then be bounced. Or if you wish just
  to drop mail coming in to .qmail-default, just put a # in it...
 
 Good question---without context, my claim that I can do nothing else
 seems wrong.  What I should have said is given I have an interest in
 collecting all the spams to non-existent addresses, I don't think I
 can make qmail do anything other than deliver it to the new/ subdir of
 a Maildir.
 
 The original problem was that _bouncing_ these messages is
 fruitless---they almost invariably have a forged From address.  I'm
 getting on average about 10,000 of them per day, so there were
 constantly several thousand messages in my queue, as well as several
 thousand bounced bounces and failures in my postmaster mailbox every
 day.

 IMHO, these messages should be _rejected_ at the SMTP session, though
 (AFAICS) qmail won't do this (without being patched).  (I am sure I
 once read a security justification for this behaviour, though I
 can't seem to find any justification for it at all now.  I am willing
 to be convinced otherwise, but IMHO, accepting these messages is bogus
 behaviour.)

I agree.

 Anyway, I was about to embark on tracking down a patch to
 do SMTP-level rejection, when I decided I would just funnel them into
 a Maildir and use them later to train Bogofilter, or whatever.

Well, if you do have a reason to keep them, as example spams for a Bayes
filter, for example, then I can't say otherwise.

I'm surprised that qmail doesn't allow you to reject these properly, but
I haven't been using qmail for a while now, so I don't remember.

I've switched to Postfix, as this is pretty easy to set up in Postfix.
I think the default config file for Postfix is set up this way as it is.

I hope you find a better solution.  Good luck.

  P  What I am going to do is clear out the Maildir daily
  P instead of monthly, though.  Collecting them has become a significant
  P drain on disk space---the 400K spams are the result of about a month
  P and a half of collection.
  
  I would never think of collecting them at all, not even allow them
  in.
 
 I may soon change my mind, though my original plan was to put the spam
 to use.  The sheer volume looks like making that plan unworkable.  :-)
 
  There are several techniques just to block them at SMTP negotiation
  all together, so they don't even enter your system...
 
 Techniques for qmail?  Without patching it?  I thought I had RTFMd
 pretty thoroughly, but I am willing to be enlightened.

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Re: [OT] Re: find -exec surprisingly slow

2004-08-14 Thread Paul A. Hoadley
Hello,

On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 08:01:47PM -0700, stheg olloydson wrote:

 What I would do is avoid the problem in the first place by not
 having a .qmail-default.

Without a .qmail-default, qmail's default behaviour is to _accept_ the
message and then _bounce_ it.  IMHO, this is _worse_ than (a) saving
the spam (which (I had hoped!) might be useful in other contexts), or
(b) piping it to the bit bucket.  Both (a) and (b) require a
.qmail-default.

Have I overlooked something really obvious here?  Is there a way
(preferably without patching it) to get qmail to _reject_ the mail
sent to non-existent addresses?


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Re: find -exec surprisingly slow

2004-08-14 Thread Gary
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 12:30:01PM +0930 or thereabouts, Paul A. Hoadley wrote:
 Hello,
 
 On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 09:13:32PM -0500, Gary wrote:
 
  P I'm not sure that I can make qmail do anything else.  These are spams
  P sent to non-existent addresses at my domain, being caught by
  P .qmail-default.
  
  Question... why do you have a .qmail-default file to begin with? If
  you have proper namespace or .qmail- files for your users, it is not
  necessary at all... all would then be bounced. Or if you wish just
  to drop mail coming in to .qmail-default, just put a # in it...
 
 Good question---without context, my claim that I can do nothing else
 seems wrong.  What I should have said is given I have an interest in
 collecting all the spams to non-existent addresses, I don't think I
 can make qmail do anything other than deliver it to the new/ subdir of
 a Maildir.

ah, okay... makes sense now.
 
 The original problem was that _bouncing_ these messages is
 fruitless---they almost invariably have a forged From address.  I'm
 getting on average about 10,000 of them per day, so there were
 constantly several thousand messages in my queue, as well as several
 thousand bounced bounces and failures in my postmaster mailbox every
 day.

right... this is why I block them at the SMTP level... 

 IMHO, these messages should be _rejected_ at the SMTP session, though
 (AFAICS) qmail won't do this (without being patched).  (I am sure I
snip 
 behaviour.)  Anyway, I was about to embark on tracking down a patch to
 do SMTP-level rejection, when I decided I would just funnel them into
 a Maildir and use them later to train Bogofilter, or whatever.

okay.. 

  I would never think of collecting them at all, not even allow them
  in.
 
 I may soon change my mind, though my original plan was to put the spam
 to use.  The sheer volume looks like making that plan unworkable.  :-)
 
hee, hee... always with spam.. g 

  There are several techniques just to block them at SMTP negotiation
  all together, so they don't even enter your system...
 
 Techniques for qmail?  Without patching it?  I thought I had RTFMd
 pretty thoroughly, but I am willing to be enlightened.

Most are patches, and very good. I use Eben Pratt's goodrcptto personally
on my own server, and some that I have built for others (gives me control
for accepting mail from lists only for those lists that do not subscribe
via envelope sender, such as this one)... there are several to choose from

http://lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#smtp-reject

which will lead you here..

http://netdevice.com/qmail/rcptck/
 
Other techniques are my own RBL lists, commercial RBLs, etc... 


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Re: find -exec surprisingly slow

2004-08-14 Thread stheg olloydson
it was said:

The original problem was that _bouncing_ these messages is
fruitless---they almost invariably have a forged From address.  I'm
getting on average about 10,000 of them per day, so there were
constantly several thousand messages in my queue, as well as several
thousand bounced bounces and failures in my postmaster mailbox every
day.

Hello,

Ahh! That is much clearer! You may want to look into ucspi-tcp in
sysutils/ports. Its tcpserver, tcprules, and rblsmtpd sub-programs do
a fairly good job of rejecting connections from undesirable smtp
servers - from the individual address all the way to netblock level.
See http://cr.yp.to/ucspi-tcp.html for details.
Other possible options a something like spamassassin, route them  to
/dev/null, etc.

Another 2%,

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Re: find -exec surprisingly slow

2004-08-14 Thread Gary
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 12:30:01PM +0930 or thereabouts, Paul A. Hoadley wrote:
 
 Techniques for qmail?  Without patching it?  I thought I had RTFMd
 pretty thoroughly, but I am willing to be enlightened.

forgot to add, there are also challange/auth mechanisms that one can use
too.. I have used these in the past, until the simplicity of Eben's
goodrcptto made it and RBLDNS /tcp.smtp files outdated and not necessary.

For example, on qconfirm, I used to just send it an email and it would
list all that was pending. I could then accept / drop / bounce it, etc..
Of course, if you are getting those large numbers, this would be
unworkable. 

they are

qconfirm 

and tmda
 

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Re: find -exec surprisingly slow

2004-08-14 Thread Paul A. Hoadley
Hi Gary,

On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 10:25:46PM -0500, Gary wrote:

 Most are patches, and very good. I use Eben Pratt's goodrcptto
 personally on my own server, and some that I have built for others
 (gives me control for accepting mail from lists only for those lists
 that do not subscribe via envelope sender, such as this
 one)... there are several to choose from
 
 http://lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#smtp-reject
 
 which will lead you here..
 
 http://netdevice.com/qmail/rcptck/

Thanks.  I was fairly sure it couldn't be done without patching.


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Re: find -exec surprisingly slow

2004-08-14 Thread Gary
On Sun, Aug 15, 2004 at 01:06:42PM +0930 or thereabouts, Paul A. Hoadley wrote:
 
 On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 10:25:46PM -0500, Gary wrote:
  http://lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html#smtp-reject
  
  which will lead you here..
  
  http://netdevice.com/qmail/rcptck/
 
 Thanks.  I was fairly sure it couldn't be done without patching.

yes, for the 55x at SMTP level, but there are several others methods so
that your queue will not fill with waiting junk from non-existent senders.
One is a selective spamassassin setup by .qmail file, called ifspamh,
IIRC, so you can drop this into any .qmail file you wish, and it will run
spamassassin client, and then deliver it where you wish for inspection,
deletion, etc... 
 

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NAT / ipfw / GW - FreeBSD 4.10 to Linux Private Network???

2004-08-14 Thread Hakim Z. Singhji
Hello All,
So with the help of all of you I have configure my FreeBSD 4.10 gateway.
I am able to ping, tracerout, ssh and call webpages with a fully
functioning DHCP client. I thank all of you from the bottom of my heart,
those of you that helped me out... its been hardwork and late nights (or
early mornings) building these computers from scratch and then
introducing them with Linux and FreeBSD OS's which I have only a
combined year of experience.
With that said I have come to the final component of my network... the
NAT component. I was trying to play around with it until I found out
that I really didn't know what I was doing... so here I am again.
I'm trying to configure one box through NAT via my FreeBSD gateway. I
figure after I do it once I'll be able to tweak it for the rest of my
machines. This is my set up
[internet] - [firewall/gateway] -- [ linux box ]
24.199.105.0--  192.168.1.1 -   192.168.1.3
(   dc0   )  (  txp0  ) (  eth0  )
I'm trying to get internet connection for my linux box, and I also want
all pop3, smtp and http passed to my linux box as well.  The freebsd box
is setup to be headless once I get this configured properly. In addition
I would like SSH2 to be able to tunnel from box to box as well as SSH2
outside my network with my Linux box.
I have attached my config files for ipfw.rules, rc.conf, and natd.conf
however natd.conf is where I am lost I don't exactly know the rules
for natd.conf. I reviewed my resources: The Complete FreeBSD by Greg
Lehey and Absolute BSD by Michael Lucas however there was not much on
the actual syntax. If someone could help me in these areas it would be
greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance...
Hakim Z. Singhji
New York University
1st year Information Systems Management Student

###
# RC.CONF FILE
###

 Network ##

gateway_enable=YES
network_interfaces=dc0 txp0 txp1
hostname=redgate.ath.cx
ifconfig_dc0=DHCP
ifconfig_txp0=inet 192.168.1.1/24
ifconfig_txp1=inet 192.168.1.2/24
natd_enable=dc0
natd_flags=-s -u -f /etc/natd.conf

# IPFW 

firewall_enable=YES
firewall_script=/etc/rc.firewall
firewall_type=/etc/ipfw.rules
firewall_quiet=NO
firewall_logging_enable=YES

## Extra Firewalling Options ##

log_in_vain=YES
tcp_drop_synfin=NO
tcp_restrict_rst=YES
icmp_drop_redirect=YES

 MISC RC Rules #

...



# IPFW.RULES


add 00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0
add 00101 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8

# from man ipfw: allow only tcp connections I've created
add 00300 check-state
add 00301 deny tcp from any to any in established
add 00302 allow tcp from any to any out setup keep-state

# allow DNS/UDP Packets
add 00400 allow udp from 207.69.188.185 53 to any in recv dc0
add 00401 allow udp from 207.69.188.186 53 to any in recv dc0
add 00402 allow udp from 207.69.188.187 53 to any in recv dc0
add 00403 allow udp from any to any out 

# allow DHCP
add 00500 allow udp from any 68 to 24.29.99.105. 67 out via dc0
add 00501 allow udp from 24.29.99.105 67 to any 68 in via dc0

# uncomment rules 00502 and 00503 if ISP's DHCP server has problems
#add 00502 allow udp from any 68 to 255.255.255.255 67 out via dc0
#add 00503 allow udp from any 67 to 255.255.255.255 68 in via dc0

#allow some icmp types (codes not supported)
add 00600 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 3

#allow source quench in and out 
add 00601 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 4

#allow me to ping out and receive response back
add 00602 allow icmp from any to any icmp types 8 out
add 00603 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 0 in

#allow me to run traceroute
add 00604 allow icmp from any to any icmptypes 11 in
##
# NAT.CONF
##

# I'm not at all sure if this is ok for diverting these packets
# to my private network machines ip and port numbers???

redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.3:110 110 #pop3
redirect_port udp 192.168.1.3:110 110 #pop3
redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.3:25 25 #smtp
redirect_port udp 192.168.1.3:25 25 #smtp
redirect_port tcp 192.168.1.3:80 80 #http
redirect_port udp 192.168.1.3:80 80 #http










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Dual Homing Networks with DSL and Cable

2004-08-14 Thread Eric Crist
Hey all,

I'm thinking about getting both DSL and Cable at home.  I've currently
got DSL with static Ips and I host servers.  I would like to setup a
dual-homed system, so I could utilize both download bandwidths.  How
should I best go about this, and does my desired setup make sense?

Thanks,

Eric F Crist
Best Access Systems
11300 Rupp Dr. Burnsville, MN 55337
Phone: 952.894.3830
Cell: 612.998.3588
Fax: 952-894-1990


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kdm refuses to allow non-root login to kde

2004-08-14 Thread Tim Kellers

I've been battling this on and off (mostly off) since April.

If I put exec startkde in .xesession in a non-root folder and I enable xdm 
in /etc/ttys, I can log into xorg's xdm and kde starts just fine -- even as a 
non-root user.

If I enable kdm in /etc/ttys, I get the kdm login screen, and if I login with 
a non-root account, the display just stays at it's default background until I 
kill it with CNTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE.  

At the kdm login screen, if I login as root, the kde desktop loads and starts 
just fine.

I've read and implemented the commands in /usr/src/UPDATING regarding kde/kdm 
and I'm running the latest kde-everything as of a few hours ago.

I do like Xorg's xdm, but I do like kdm/KDE better, but, apparently, kdm/kde 
doesn't like me at all.  The box I'm currently testing this on is i386 
FreeBSD-Current as of 8/7/2004, but I've also had this difficulty on 4.9/4.10 
-STABLE installs at work.

Any advice on wht I'm doing wrong (or a pointer to docs so I can RTFM) would 
be greatly appreciated.

Tim Kellers
CPE/NJIT
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kdm refuses to allow non-root login to kde

2004-08-14 Thread Tim Kellers
[If this gets posted twice, I apologize for the noise]


I've been battling this on and off (mostly off) since April.

If I put exec startkde in .xesession in a non-root folder and I enable xdm 
in /etc/ttys, I can log into xorg's xdm and kde starts just fine -- even as a 
non-root user.

If I enable kdm in /etc/ttys, I get the kdm login screen, and if I login with 
a non-root account, the display just stays at it's default background until I 
kill it with CNTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE.  

At the kdm login screen, if I login as root, the kde desktop loads and starts 
just fine.

I've read and implemented the commands in /usr/src/UPDATING regarding kde/kdm 
and I'm running the latest kde-everything as of a few hours ago.

I do like Xorg's xdm, but I do like kdm/KDE better, but, apparently, kdm/kde 
doesn't like me at all.  The box I'm currently testing this on is i386 
FreeBSD-Current as of 8/7/2004, but I've also had this difficulty on 4.9/4.10 
-STABLE installs at work.

Any advice on wht I'm doing wrong (or a pointer to docs so I can RTFM) would 
be greatly appreciated.

Tim Kellers
CPE/NJIT
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The switch to X.org

2004-08-14 Thread Clinton MacKinnon
Hello all,
Does anyone know where I can find, or what exactly needs to be done to 
switch a 5.2.1 system from XFree86 to X.org. Due to the lists currently 
being down I'm unable to find the official HEADS UP articles I was 
looking for.

Thank you in advance
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Re: mozilla and courier-imap

2004-08-14 Thread Reza Muhammad
I have some problem too with mozilla mail and courier
imap.
When i'm using imap with mozilla mail, everytime i
sent email, mozilla mail idle with progrees tool bar 
 Copy message to sent item
is there any idea ?

regards
reza
--- Uwe Laverenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 12:50:22PM -0400, Richard
 Coleman wrote:
 
  I'm using the most recent ports for mozilla and
 courier-imap on an 
  up-to-date FreeBSD-stable.  Very often I will not
 see new messages in a 
  folder until I restart mozilla.  I was convinced
 it was mozilla that was 
 
 What do you mean with a folder? If you mean the
 normal INBOX, just
 increase the value of MAXPERIP in
 /usr/local/etc/courier-imap/imapd.
 This value must be increased for use with mozilla
 (16 should be fine).
 
 If you mean any folder, you have to tell Mozilla
 to monitor this folder
 for new incoming mails (right-click on the
 folder...).
 
 Generally Courier-Imap works perfectly with Mozilla:
 I have several servers
 running it with many users of Mozilla-Mail.
 
 cu,
 Uwe
 
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Re: The switch to X.org

2004-08-14 Thread Tim Kellers
On Sunday 15 August 2004 12:51 am, Clinton MacKinnon wrote:
 Hello all,

 Does anyone know where I can find, or what exactly needs to be done to
 switch a 5.2.1 system from XFree86 to X.org. Due to the lists currently
 being down I'm unable to find the official HEADS UP articles I was
 looking for.

 Thank you in advance

From /usr/src/Updating


20040723:
  AFFECTS: users of FreeBSD-current, users of xorg
  AUTHOR: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  The XFREE86_VERSION variable is deprecated and has been replaced by the
  X_WINDOW_SYSTEM variable. X_WINDOW_SYSTEM may be set to xorg, xfree86-4, or
  xfree86-3.  X_WINDOW_SYSTEM defaults to xorg on FreeBSD-current.  If you are
  switching to xorg, you should follow this set of commands to cleanly 
upgrade:

  pkg_delete -f /var/db/pkg/imake-4* /var/db/pkg/XFree86-*
  cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg  make install
  pkgdb -F

  Users of -stable or older -current can switch to X.Org by setting
  X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xorg in make.conf and following the same process.

You should have portupgrade installed before you attempt the above 
instructions.  Assuming you do, follow the above instructions exactly.
I did exactly the above, and it worked fine for me, though when running pkgdb 
-F, some of the replacement xorg choices aren't intuitive.

Tim Kellers
CPE/NJIT

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Any external USB cdrw recommended for FreeBSD[4,5]* ?

2004-08-14 Thread Unix Forever
Hello,

I was looking for some ideas on an external USB burner for my laptop.  I'm
running 5.2.1 but would go back to 4.10 if needed to make a recommended model
work. TIA



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Re: The switch to X.org

2004-08-14 Thread stheg olloydson
it was said:







Hello,

I don't personally have an answer, but from the archives comes this one
from Matthew Seaman:


On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 02:45:08PM -0400, Jim Trigg wrote:
On Mon, Jun 28, 2004 at 01:22:32PM -0500, Vulpes Velox wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 13:17:56 -0400
Jim Trigg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 AFAICT, this won't really do anything -- there does not appear to
be a real way to tell the ports system that you want X ports to
depend on xorg instead of xfree.  Every X port appears to have xfree
hardcoded.
 
 Not sure, I think some do, but everything I have hear does not seem
to have that problem.
 
 OK, so how do you get cvsup to use xorg?  As best I can tell, it will
 depend on either XFree86 (XFree86 v. 3) or
XFree86-4-libraries(XFree86 v. 4), with no option to depend on
xorg-libraries.

Both the XFree86-4-libraries and xorg-libraries provide the
/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 shared library (amongst others).  It's the
same ABI independent of which port the shlib comes from.

The short answer is just install the x11/xorg-libraries port before
you install cvsup.

In fact, cvsup works perfectly well even if you replace the XFree86
libs with the xorg ones underneath a previously installed copy of
cvsup.  Doesn't even need a recompile.  The same goes for most X based
software.

Here's how it works: when the Makefile in the cvsup port says
USE_XLIB that gets transformed into a LIB_DEPENDS line in
/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.ports.mk:

LIB_DEPENDS+=   X11.6:${PORTSDIR}/x11/XFree86-4-libraries

(assuming you've not got XFREE86_VERSION == 3).

That LIB_DEPENDS line is in two parts separated by a colon.  The first
bit:

X11.6

means that the port needs to link against libX11.so.6, and it checks
to see if a suitable shlib is installed and accessible by grep'ing in
the output of ldconfig:

% ldconfig -r | fgrep X11.6
116:-lX11.6 = /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6

Since last night on my system that's from:

% pkg_info -W /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6
/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 was installed by package
xorg-libraries-6.7.0

If make(1) can find a suitable shlib, everything is happy and the
compile continues -- all make looks for is the presence of the
library.  It doesn't check what (if any) port the library is part of.
Only if it can't find the correct shlib does the right hand side of
that LIB_DEPENDS line get considered:

${PORTSDIR}/x11/XFree86-4-libraries

That's simply a suggestion of a suitable port that will provide the
required shlib, and fulfil the dependency.  But there are several such
ports in the tree, any of which could be used.  Often in such
situations there will be some sort of 'WANT_FOO' or 'WITH_FOO_VER'
make variable to select which one gets used.  Unfortunately, no such
mechanism for saying I want X.Org ports in preference to XFree86
ones has yet been committed.

One annoyance due to the lake of make(1) infrastructure is that the
suggested port will be listed in the package dependencies of the
installed port, rather than the actual port that provided the shlib
you used to build against.  That, however, is just an administrative
detail which you can fix up with pkgdb(1), and has no real bearing on
the effectiveness of the software.

Cheers,

Matthew
###


And an answer from Matthew to a follow-up question from Axel S. Gruner:


###

On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 12:46:37PM +0200, Axel S. Gruner wrote:

 i have written a howto for people willing to switch from XFree86 to 
 xorg. Ok, at this time it is only available in german:
 
 http://www.bsdforen.de/showthread.php?p=39983#post39983
 
 But i also have some questions about switching to xorg. 
 
 (1) Will xorg be the default X in future FreeBSD Releases?

Probably.  It seems that most of the Linux distros have switched or
are switching to it, and the Unix vendors like Sun always were behind
X.Org anyway.  

There is has been a discussion on the x11 and docs mailing lists
covering all of the whys and wherefores.  A good place to start is
here:

http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/mid.cgi?200406051411.04259.linimon

 (2) I have xorg running, without a problem, but if i install a new 
 application with a XFree86 dependency i have to run pkgdb -F to fix

 the dependency to xorg stuff (and imake-6).
 If i change /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk and the entries about XFree86
and 
 imake-4 to xorg and imake-6, the change will not be permanent (cvsup 
 will overwrite the change):
 
 [...]
 LIB_DEPENDS+=   X11.6:${PORTSDIR}/x11/xorg-libraries
 [...]
 .if defined(USE_IMAKE)
 BUILD_DEPENDS+= ${X11BASE}/lib/X11/config/date.def:
 ${PORTSDIR}/devel/imake-6
 RUN_DEPENDS+= mkhtmlindex:${PORTSDIR}/devel/imake-6
 [...]
 
 So, is there another way to fix that permanently or a work-around?

Eventually something like what you propose 

RE: Dual Homing Networks with DSL and Cable

2004-08-14 Thread Lucas Holt
You will have difficulty with this setup.  Most large providers require that
you register your multihomed capacity on a list.  Otherwise traffic won't
know to come in on a particular interface or that it can go either way.  I
must admit I'm going from memory here.  I used to work at an ISP about 5
years ago.  At that time we went from a T3 with UUNET to a multihomed setup
with verio and uunet.  It was rather odd actually.. 3 t1s connected us to
our modem banks at the telco and then we had an ethernet connection to
verio's pipe, plus the T3 in our main office.  Anyway, verio required us to
get on this list.  They told us that most large ISPs use it for routing.  I
suspect you will need static ips with the cable provider to pull it off as
well.  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Crist
Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2004 11:55 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Dual Homing Networks with DSL and Cable

Hey all,

I'm thinking about getting both DSL and Cable at home.  I've currently
got DSL with static Ips and I host servers.  I would like to setup a
dual-homed system, so I could utilize both download bandwidths.  How
should I best go about this, and does my desired setup make sense?

Thanks,

Eric F Crist
Best Access Systems
11300 Rupp Dr. Burnsville, MN 55337
Phone: 952.894.3830
Cell: 612.998.3588
Fax: 952-894-1990


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cd and dvd burning program K3b and permissions for non-root users.

2004-08-14 Thread Ian Smith
On Sat, 14 Aug 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[..]
  Message: 4
  Date: Sat, 14 Aug 2004 08:47:09 -0500
  From: edwinculp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[..]
  
  I've installed K3b and it works great for the root user but I can't
  get it to work for any non-privileged user even though I have put the
  user in the wheel group and have set sysctl vfs.usermount=1, cd0 has
  permissions set to 666, the same in devfs.conf (That solves the
  problem for xmms but not for k3b.  I have tried to suid and kde won't
  let it start.  I'm out of ideas.  After this much time, I'm sure that
  I'm making a mountain out of a mole hill and I'm missing something
  very simple. 
 
  Any help would be appreciated.  I can't see my users using burncd
  
  
  Thanks
  
  ed
  
  P.S. Machines are running current and are AMD Athlon

I see you've not got this going yet.  I don't know about current but on
4.x, as well as vfs.usermount=1 you need to have non-root users mount
CDs on a directory that they actually own.  Might that be an issue here?

Cheers, Ian

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