Re[2]: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's?

2004-10-26 Thread Hexren

JP> On Tuesday 26 October 2004 21:20, Hexren wrote:
>> >> For example:
>> >>
>> >> 192.168.1.100 on NIC 1
>> >>
>> >> 192.168.1.101 on NIC 2
>> >>
>> >> Gateway 192.168.1.1
>>
>> --
>>
>> Am I seeing the wrong problem when I say that:
>>
>> #ifconfig NIC1 192.168.1.100
>> #ifconfig NIC1 192.168.1.101
>> #route add default 192.168.1.1
>>
>> should do what you want ?
>>
>> Hexren

JP> You can't put two NICs w/ the same subnet into a FBSD machine


-

I can't challenge that I never tried but it should surprise me if that
was true. What error message does the system give if you try to do
that ?

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RE: Finding the Right Sound Driver ...

2004-10-26 Thread Darren Pilgrim
> From: Matt Navarre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> On Tuesday 26 October 2004 01:55, Darren Pilgrim wrote:
>> The first step is to provide copies of the outputs of the 
>> commands `uname -a`, `dmesg` and `kldstat`.
> 
> Also the output of cat /dev/sndstat would help.
> 
>> Did you first try loading snd.ko (4.x) or snd_driver.ko 
>> (5.x) and see which driver finds your hardware?
> 
> If you load the snd* kernel module you can cat /dev/sndstat 
> and it should tell you which driver attached to you card.

Or just read the attach messages.


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Re: Finding the Right Sound Driver ...

2004-10-26 Thread Matt Navarre
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 01:55, Darren Pilgrim wrote:
>The first step is to provide copies of the outputs of the commands `uname
>-a`, `dmesg` and `kldstat`.

Also the output of cat /dev/sndstat would help.

> Did you first try loading snd.ko (4.x) or snd_driver.ko (5.x) and see
> which driver finds your hardware?
If you load the snd* kernel module you can cat /dev/sndstat and it should tell 
you which driver attached to you card.
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Re: GPL vs BSD Licence

2004-10-26 Thread Gert Cuykens
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> > Foundation, who is the copyright holder of the GPL license itself.
> > In fact, the FSF advises authors to transfer copyright rights of their
> > work to the FSF to avoid these problems.
> 
> >Ah, so your point is that people should transfer their copyrights to an
> >organization dedicated to keeping the code free.  Well, maybe they
> should,>but that has nothing to do with which license is used.
> 
> I think they both have it wrong. If you want to donate your code to
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> entire concept of "here, use my crappy code but don't make any
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> Its still there.
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If you buy a product what would you want ? A pretty box or pretty
software ? Finishing the product is just marketing and trying to make
a very pretty box to put the software in. When something is open
source and you want to sell it you are forced to make it the best
peace of code out there. Its what i call healthy competition. For me
open source translates into "If you think you can do better be my
guest" Finishing a product and making it closed source is just plain
wrong. Its  like stealing from the church basket. Every body shares
something and you want to take it and keep it for your self.
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Re: some advice needed to considering to move my w2k machine into a freebsd workstation.

2004-10-26 Thread W. D.
At 14:31 10/26/2004, Jian Guang Xu wrote:
>My current system follows:
>AMD Athlon 1600+, 1 Gigabytes RAM, 40 Giga harddrive, GeForce 2 with
>32 Mb, AC97 Onboard Audio Adaptor, D-Link DFE-538TX.
>
>The system got follow applications:
>W2K Workstation Professional runs very smooth right now.
>Firefox 1.0 for most of the web surfing. IE occasionally but nessary
>for some of the website I need to go to due to personally reason.
>Thunderbird for me email and newsgroup reading.
>VMWare to testing FreeBSD.
>ACT! 2005 as a CRM software(personal organizor as well) but I'm trying
>to move to a  internet application via www.freecrm.com
>OpenOffice currently runs in my system with MS Office removed.
>Acrobat 5.0 for form editing(Occasionally)
>MusicMatch for online radio (all the time)
>Realplayer for DVD/Movie(Occasionally)
>I have online conference calls using MS Media Player Plugin which is
>very important for me.
>Zonealarm as my firewall, Norton Antirus.
>I'm using a home network connected to Rogers High Speed via DHCP
>protocol, another machine is a XP laptop.
>
>My job is in Marketing field so I do need the system to be robust and
>more productivity. At the same time, I have the dream to play OS
>around and hack into the system at my spare time. To be honest, I'm
>pretty happy with my current system with all the feature I specified.
>
>Is there anybody could point out a way to play FreeBSD around and at
>the same time, I could perform my job easily? As I said, I need the
>Media Player plug in a lot, and any suggestion for a CRM software
>under BSD would be much appreciated.
>
>I gotta be very careful to change a system.
>
>I thank you for reading my nonsense post and hoping that  if somebody
>could give me some advice.
>
>JX

Hi JX,

It sounds like you have a nice Windows system.  My advice would
be to leave it exactly as it is.  For probably around $100, you can
buy a computer that's a few years old for a FreeBSD 'experimental'
system.  I don't recommend dual booting because there is a positive
probability that you will hose your current system.  If you use
a KVM switch, you can avoid duplicating the Keyboard, Video monitor,
and Mouse.

There is a lot of documentation out there about FreeBSD, but I've
compiled my notes into step-by-step procedures that can get you
up and running fairly quickly:
http://www.US-Webmasters.com/FreeBSD/Install/

Good luck.  Welcome to FreeBSD!


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Re: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's?

2004-10-26 Thread pete wright
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 20:30:49 +, Josh Paetzel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tuesday 26 October 2004 21:20, Hexren wrote:
> > >> For example:
> > >>
> > >> 192.168.1.100 on NIC 1
> > >>
> > >> 192.168.1.101 on NIC 2
> > >>
> > >> Gateway 192.168.1.1
> >
> > --
> >
> > Am I seeing the wrong problem when I say that:
> >
> > #ifconfig NIC1 192.168.1.100
> > #ifconfig NIC1 192.168.1.101
> > #route add default 192.168.1.1
> >
> > should do what you want ?
> >
> > Hexren
> 
> You can't put two NICs w/ the same subnet into a FBSD machine
> 
sure you can, see previous posts by Aaron Nichols in this thread
regarding this.  now as far as reasons why you may want to/or not do
this may be open to debate.

-p  

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Multilink PPP over UDP Tunnel

2004-10-26 Thread Gerard D.
I'm trying to create a multilink ppp over udp tunnel to combine the
bandwidth of 3 dsl lines into one big fat pipe. I currently have a
FreeBSD server co located at my ISP's data center and a FreeBSD Server
at my house with 3 dsl lines. I would like to be able to create some
kind of tunnel or vpn to the co located server and have it evenly
distribute the bandwith over the 3 dsl lines. I have been
experimenting with using ppp over TCP tunnels however the speeds are
very inconsistent. However when I use PPPoUDP the speeds are great for
a single line. My problem is is that I cannot seem to bring up more
than one udp tunnel. Soon as the second link tries to come up the
whole tunnel is closed. Does anyone have a working example of
Multilink PPP over UDP tunnel? I have looked at the
ppp.conf.span-isp.working in the examples directory many of times
however it is extremely confusing.

Does anyone know if Multilink PPPoE is possible? I know there are
companys in the UK doing ML-PPPoA but I need ML-PPPoE. I have the full
support of my isp in configuring their cisco routers to help me with
ml-pppoe I just need to tell them how to set it up for me. If anyone
could help with either of my issues I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks
-Gerard
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Re: Dlink-g520 Wireless and WEP more

2004-10-26 Thread scott renna
SUCCESS...at least at 40-bit WEP, which is good
enough, it's not like getting up higher will make that
much of a difference.  Thanks for the tips, still
puzzled why two cards in the same system can't be on
the same subnet.

thanks for the help.

--- "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Tuesday 26 October 2004 17:38, scott renna wrote:
> > ok, well this system has a 3com, xl0 holding an ip
> of
> > 192.168.2.150
> > Does this mean that I need to have each interface
> > having an IP on a different subnet?
> > maybe I could change the mask on the xl0 to
> > 255.255.248.0 and it might work?
> Nope, that won't help.
> 
> > I wanted to have the wireless card on the same
> subnet
> > as the rest of the LAN and keep the wired card up
> and
> > running just for testing before permanently
> migrating
> > to this wireless card(i'm using encrypted
> protocols
> > locally so wep weaknesses should not be an issue).
> >
> > is there a way to have both cards be on the same
> > subnet and have the same subnet mask?
> Nope.
> If you would do that, FreeBSD wouldn't know on what
> interface it should send 
> packets destined for a PC on that subnet. (That's
> why ifconfig refuses to set 
> the ip address).
> 
> If you want to be able to switch between LAN and
> WLAN, you'll have to turn off 
> one of the interfaces...
> If you want to run over WLAN, type :
> ifconfig xl0 down
> ifconfig ath0 192.168.2.150 etc etc etc...
> 
> If you want to switch back to LAN, type :
> ifconfig ath0 down
> ifconfig xl0 up
> 
> You can assign the same ip address to multiple
> interfaces, but you can only 
> have one of the "up" at a time.
> 
> good luck,
> Daan
> 
> 




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Re: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's?

2004-10-26 Thread Josh Paetzel
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 21:20, Hexren wrote:
> >> For example:
> >>
> >> 192.168.1.100 on NIC 1
> >>
> >> 192.168.1.101 on NIC 2
> >>
> >> Gateway 192.168.1.1
>
> --
>
> Am I seeing the wrong problem when I say that:
>
> #ifconfig NIC1 192.168.1.100
> #ifconfig NIC1 192.168.1.101
> #route add default 192.168.1.1
>
> should do what you want ?
>
> Hexren

You can't put two NICs w/ the same subnet into a FBSD machine

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Thanks,

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Re: Finding the Right Sound Driver ...

2004-10-26 Thread Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P.
Siavash EDRISI wrote:
Hi!
I have been reading the text "Setting Up the Sound Card" at
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.html
in order to find and install the right driver for the sound card in my i386. The
hardware is an ESS 1869 PCI. Before I had WinXP installed on this hardware and
it reported that the location of the card is: PCI slot 3 (PCI bus 0, device 14,
function 0)
I did whatever is described in the section 7.2.1 of the manual:
1- I checked the entries in "/boot/defaults/loader.conf". The right line was
 snd_sbc_load="NO"
I imagine this means that the driver is already somewhere on the harddisk!
2- Then I inserted the following line into /boot/loader.conf
 snd_sbc_load="YES"
3- I booted the system.
Right after calling "startx" and entering KDE I got (as usual) the error message
that the sound server could not find the file /dev/dsp.
As I read in the manual configuring a custom kernel with sound support is just a
second method and can be used alternatively. So I am not sure if I really have
to do something in the kernel or not, since the first efforts did not help!
Could someone please tell me what I still have to do? I would of course be very
thankful for more precise advices.
Thanks in advance
Sia
 

Hi, Sia!
I'm taking the liberty of cc'ing this to a more appropriate forum.
For further diagnosis, what is the output of "uname -a" ??  The
instructions have changed recently, because the code changed
fairly recently, and the age of your installation might help determine
the solution to your problem.
I'm fairly sure I've used this card before
Kevin Kinsey
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Re: some advice needed to considering to move my w2k machine into a freebsd workstation.

2004-10-26 Thread Frank Jahnke
I'd suggest leaving your Windows machine (and all the software you use)
in tact, and play with FreeBSD on the side until you are comfortable
enough with it to use it full time.  You may like it (most do), but you
may not.

There are two ways I would proceed.  One is to get a live FreeBSD CD
(Freesbie) and play around with it.  The other would be to make your
system dual-boot.  That is, you can select either FreeBSD or Windows at
boot time.  That way you can have the benefits of both environments
(though not at the same time). 

I'd recommend you buy a second hard drive -- 40 MB is fine to get going
-- and install FreeBSD on that.  Drives are cheap right now; I've seen
decent 40 GB drives for $30 or so.  Download the ISOs from FreeBSD.org
onto the new disk, and have at it!

You may find that you need to keep windows around, because as you
mention there are sites where you really need IE.  Otherwise, I find
there are no limitations on the FreeBSD desktop, though I'm not big into
multimedia.

FWIW, that's how I got started on FreeBSD -- an inexpensive secondary
disk on a PIII/dual boot.  I liked it well enough that when I put
together my dual Athlon workstation I used FreeBSD as the only OS.  I
like it.

Frank

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Re: HT kernel

2004-10-26 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 09:54:45PM +0100, Alexandre Vieira wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>   I have a machine with an Intel p4 3.2ghz FSB800 w/ 1MB L2 cache and
> I wanted to know your opinion about some kernel options that would
> boost the performance of this kind of processor.

I flirted with a syctl locking option with 5.2 (or 4.x). When one of the
logical processes used the calculation processer, the second logical
processor where locked. I turned this off. The result was that the two
logical processes started fighting with eachother to who was first in
using the calculation processer. Causing a decrease in effency and a
increase in CPU temp. I don't remeber any other options. I've stiked
with GENERIC ather this.

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Re: HT kernel

2004-10-26 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 02:17:48AM +0200, Alex de Kruijff wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 02:01:30PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 09:54:45PM +0100, Alexandre Vieira wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > >   I have a machine with an Intel p4 3.2ghz FSB800 w/ 1MB L2 cache and
> > > I wanted to know your opinion about some kernel options that would
> > > boost the performance of this kind of processor.
> > 
> > Note that for a lot of workloads HT decreases performance.
> 
> In what way? Does HT/SMP kernel or option do worse then a normal kernel
> or default options?

Depends on the workload.  Remember that hyperthreading isn't "a secret
extra CPU hiding inside the same chip"; if you try and execute an
instruction on the second virtual CPU that cannot be executed on the
silicon because the first virtual CPU is using that part of the
silicon (or other reasons), the virtual CPU will block.  If you're
spending most of your time blocked in this way because of the
computational workload you're running, performance is going to be
worse than the !HT case due to OS overheads.

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Re: Compiling PF and IPFW in the same kernel

2004-10-26 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 10:46:53PM +0100, Alexandre Vieira wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Anyone knows if there is any problem in compiling ipfw and pf in the
> same kernel?
> Which one will be turned off by default? Or will they both be turned on?

Useing two different firewall doesn't cause a problem. I've used ipfw
and ipf (different from pf, i think) combined. This never caused any
problem. I feel its unlikly if it would cause a problem in this case.

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Re: HT kernel

2004-10-26 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 02:01:30PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 09:54:45PM +0100, Alexandre Vieira wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> >   I have a machine with an Intel p4 3.2ghz FSB800 w/ 1MB L2 cache and
> > I wanted to know your opinion about some kernel options that would
> > boost the performance of this kind of processor.
> 
> Note that for a lot of workloads HT decreases performance.

In what way? Does HT/SMP kernel or option do worse then a normal kernel
or default options?

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Re: something: DESTDIR is not a user settable variable

2004-10-26 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Wed, Oct 27, 2004 at 12:15:27AM +0200, Olivier Gautherot wrote:

> >What's in your make.conf file?  [Not DESTDIR, is it?]
> >
> > 
> >
> Hi Gilbert!
> 
> No, it is not defined there. The funny bit in this story is that it does 
> not always happen and the same package may work in one shell  and fail 
> in another one... Weird...

...in a shell where you have defined DESTDIR? ;-)

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Apache2 & Apache 1.3 Conf File Differences? (Was: Apache 2 -"Directory index forbidden by rule")

2004-10-26 Thread Drew Tomlinson
On 10/19/2004 10:38 AM Drew Tomlinson wrote:
I recently upgraded my existing Apache 1.3x server to Apache 2.0.52.  
I changed nothing (that I recall) in my httpd.conf file.  In 1.3x, I 
had defined a virtual server to link to /usr/local/share/doc so I 
could easily read my docs from what ever computer I was using at the 
time.  There was never an index.html file.  I just relied on whatever 
was built-in to Apache (mod_autoindex?) to provide a directory listing 
when I accessed the Document Root.

But since upgrading, I get a 403 error and this appears in my log file:
Directory index forbidden by rule: /usr/local/share/doc/
I've Googled on the subject and found others with the same problem.  
The general recommendation is to make sure that "Options Indexes" is 
defined for the directory.  I've done this and restarted Apache but it 
has not helped.  Here's the relevant section of httpd.conf:


   ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   ServerName freebsd.mykitchentable.net
   DocumentRoot /usr/local/share/doc
   CustomLog /var/log/httpd_freebsd-access.log combined
   ErrorLog /var/log/httpd_freebsd-error.log
  
   Options All
   Order allow,deny
   Allow from all
   

Can anyone point out my error?
Thanks,
Drew
I am still having this problem and can't figure it out.  Because I 
upgraded from 1.3x to 2, I wonder if there's something in my httpd.conf 
that needs to be added?  Does anyone else that has upgraded recall 
having to add or change something?

Thanks ,
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Re: First impressions of FreeBSD 5.3

2004-10-26 Thread Jonathan T. Sage
Gordon Freeman wrote:
ipfstat doesn't run. The error:
openkmem:open:no such file or directory

device mem
in your kernel config.  this bit me in the ass as well.
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Re: IDE drive - "hard error reading fsbn..." - recoverable?

2004-10-26 Thread BSDjunkie
You could try using SpinRite.

http://www.grc.com

It now works with all filesystems and is up to version
6.

Mark

--- Tuc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > >   Problem is, unless it fails the Dell Power on
> IDE test, they won't
> > > replace it. :-/  Guess I just keep backing it up
> until it fails totally.
> > 
> > Get a Dell diagnostic disk for your system, and
> run the hard drive test.  It 
> > ought to see the problems, which you can then
> report back to Dell in order to 
> > get them to do something.
> > 
>   Sorry, I should have mentioned I used the BIOS
> based disk check and
> it passed. Maybe I do need to go to the more
> extensive one.
> 
>   Thanks, Tuc
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Re: something: DESTDIR is not a user settable variable

2004-10-26 Thread Olivier Gautherot

I'm hitting regularly the same problem with various ports that deinstall
properly during upgrades but won't reinstall. I had the case with firefox
this morning.
The typical message is:
   bash-2.05b$ sudo make install clean
   firefox-1.0.1.p_4: DESTDIR is not a user settable variable
   *** Error code 1
Can anyone tell me where the message is coming from and how to
overcome it? I've tried to grep "user settable" but did not find it...
For what it's worth, here is my uname -a:
   FreeBSD ogautherot.og-lan.freesurf.fr 5.2.1-RELEASE
   FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE #0: Mon Jul  5 19:32:44 CEST 2004
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/OG_CONF  i386
   

What's in your make.conf file?  [Not DESTDIR, is it?]
 

Hi Gilbert!
No, it is not defined there. The funny bit in this story is that it does 
not always happen and the same package may work in one shell  and fail 
in another one... Weird...

I guess I'll wait for the problem to occur again, run a printenv and 
compare it with a shell that does work.

Thanks for the tip anyway!
Cheers
   Olivier
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Compiling PF and IPFW in the same kernel

2004-10-26 Thread Alexandre Vieira
Hello,

Anyone knows if there is any problem in compiling ipfw and pf in the
same kernel?
Which one will be turned of by default? Or will they both be turned on?
Will the default rule for PF be allow all ?

Sorry for the mass questioning!

thanks for your time :)
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Re: photoshop

2004-10-26 Thread Danny MacMillan
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 03:02:14PM -0600, Eric Kjeldergaard wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:11:45 +0200, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Is there a way to translate photoshop files into gimp files and gimp
> > into photoshop files ?
> 
> If I'm understanding this right -- then of course, both editors (gimp
> and photoshop) deal with jpegs, gifs, bmps, etc...it doesn't do much
> good in the Real World (TM) to use crazy proprietary formats because
> browsers/etc simply can't render them.

True, but the crazy proprietary formats are still important because you lose
information when you convert a Photoshop document to a raster image, in just
the same way as you lose information when you convert a C source file into
an object file.

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Re: photoshop

2004-10-26 Thread albi
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 04:02:14PM -0500, Eric Kjeldergaard wrote:

> If I'm understanding this right -- then of course, both editors (gimp
> and photoshop) deal with jpegs, gifs, bmps, etc...it doesn't do much
> good in the Real World (TM) to use crazy proprietary formats because
> browsers/etc simply can't render them.

There's more than just pictures in browsers, if you want pictures to be
printed by a professional printer then those printers usually like to have 
the "original" format, not just the jpg or png end-result.
For Gimp it's .xcf and for Photo$hop it's .pdf. And .. Gimp can read .psd
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Re: 10-13" laptop. Where to buy?

2004-10-26 Thread Eric Crist
On Oct 26, 2004, at 1:23 AM, Svein Halvor Halvorsen wrote:
[Michael Johnson, 2004-10-25]
I'm looking for a x86 laptop with a 10 to 13" screen but its very
 hard to find one under 14"
 anyone have any ideas of where to look?
I am very happy with my Dell Latitude X300.
What are you looking to use this laptop for?  If you just want a tiny  
laptop with a *nix of some sort, try apple.  Otherwise, you can get the  
little sony laptop.  You can find an example here:

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/ 
SY_BrowseCatalog-Start? 
CategoryName=cpu_VAIONotebookComputers&CP=newsonycom_navbar_el_nb

WARNING: THE ABOVE PROBABLY WRAPPED.
HTH
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Re[2]: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's?

2004-10-26 Thread Hexren

>> 
>> For example:
>> 
>> 192.168.1.100 on NIC 1
>> 
>> 192.168.1.101 on NIC 2
>> 
>> Gateway 192.168.1.1 

--

Am I seeing the wrong problem when I say that:

#ifconfig NIC1 192.168.1.100
#ifconfig NIC1 192.168.1.101
#route add default 192.168.1.1

should do what you want ?

Hexren

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Re: sysinstall problem

2004-10-26 Thread Mark Frasa
On 2004.10.26 14:06:23 +, Leighton Reed wrote:
> When I run "Standard Installation" from sysinstall I get the following 
> error messages:
> -unable to make new root file system on /dev/ad0sla! command returned 
> status 36
> -Couldn't make filesystems properly. Aborting
> Can anyone recomend a fix?
> 

It depends on your hardware.

Check this:
http://www.google.com/bsd?hl=en&lr=&q=status+36+new+root+file+system&btnG=Google+Search

The first 2 links...

Mark.

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Re: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's?

2004-10-26 Thread Aaron P. Martinez
On Tue, 2004-10-26 at 11:27, Adam Seniuk wrote:
> Hello;
> 
>  
> 
> I am wondering how to get 2 Different network cards to have 2 Different IP's
> but I want to have both ips on the same ip block.
> 
>  
> 
> For example:
> 
> 192.168.1.100 on NIC 1
> 
> 192.168.1.101 on NIC 2
> 
> Gateway 192.168.1.1 
> 
>  
> 
> Not sure on how to set it up properly. I would appreciate any help or tips
> people have on this subject. and yes I have googled for it but none have
> this scenario :D
> 

Probably a better setup for this would be using carp and only one IP
address.  
>  
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> 
> Adam Seniuk
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> -
> System Administrator |
> Server Administrator ||
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Re: FreeBSD and UPS's

2004-10-26 Thread Robert Huff

Bob Bomar writes:

>  Look at sysutils/nut and sysutils/apcupsd

If you're looking at apcupsd, you will probably want to join
the mailing list.  There have been huge FreeBSD-related developments
in the last 2-3 months (including the ability to use USB UPSs) that
are not part of the main code base and therefore not in the port.


Robert Huff
(currently testing the experimental
 branch with his BackUPS RS)







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Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows

2004-10-26 Thread TM4525
In a message dated 10/26/04 3:38:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
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>The fact that Cisco does something wrong doesn't somehow make it right for
>Windows.  It's not a good excuse either.

Its the way it is, and the way its always been. 
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sysinstall problem

2004-10-26 Thread Leighton Reed
When I run "Standard Installation" from sysinstall I get the following 
error messages:
-unable to make new root file system on /dev/ad0sla! command returned 
status 36
-Couldn't make filesystems properly. Aborting
Can anyone recomend a fix?

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Re: First impressions of FreeBSD 5.3

2004-10-26 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 12:54:06PM -0600, Gordon Freeman wrote:
> Well, After upgrading a very vanilla 5.2.1 to 5.3 a lot of things are
> just broken.
> 
> ipfstat doesn't run. The error:
> openkmem:open:no such file or directory
> 
> My RAID card (Adaptec 2150 using asr driver) is inaccessible because
> the rasr control device no longer exists. Making raidutil useless.

Both of these look bogus..are you certain you upgraded completely?
You'll get this kind of problem if your userland, kernel and/or
modules are out of sync.

> And the server runs incredibly slow. (No I didn't leave in the testing options)

Slow doing what?  Please provide more information.  You also forgot to
include details of your hardware.  Also, discussions of 5.3 should be
sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] since it's still in development.

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Re: photoshop

2004-10-26 Thread Eric Kjeldergaard
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:11:45 +0200, Gert Cuykens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I dont know anything about photoshop, i only know i like building
> websites, and every company i want to work for asks photoshop this
> flash mx that :(
> 
> So i want to say to my boss screw photoshop i can do the same with gimp :)
> Is there a way to translate photoshop files into gimp files and gimp
> into photoshop files ?
> 

If I'm understanding this right -- then of course, both editors (gimp
and photoshop) deal with jpegs, gifs, bmps, etc...it doesn't do much
good in the Real World (TM) to use crazy proprietary formats because
browsers/etc simply can't render them.

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Re: HT kernel

2004-10-26 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 09:54:45PM +0100, Alexandre Vieira wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>   I have a machine with an Intel p4 3.2ghz FSB800 w/ 1MB L2 cache and
> I wanted to know your opinion about some kernel options that would
> boost the performance of this kind of processor.

Note that for a lot of workloads HT decreases performance.

Kris

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Re: remote login problem

2004-10-26 Thread Lowell Gilbert
"Joe Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I just did a fresh install of freebsd 4.10.  Now there is a remote login
> limit that is set to 32.  I have changed these two options in the kernel
> conf and still it does not seem to change.
> maxusers 96
> pseudo-device   pty 64 
> 
> When I try to login using ssh I get this error message. 
> Server refused to allocate pty
> 
> I was sure that the pseudo-device option in the kernel would fix it.
> Does anyone else have any suggestions?

Is there anything in the system logs?  
Is sshd being affected by any limits(1), 
particularly from login.conf?
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HT kernel

2004-10-26 Thread Alexandre Vieira
Hello,

  I have a machine with an Intel p4 3.2ghz FSB800 w/ 1MB L2 cache and
I wanted to know your opinion about some kernel options that would
boost the performance of this kind of processor.

Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz (3206.95-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf34  Stepping = 4
  
Features=0xbfebfbff
  Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs
real memory  = 2146369536 (2046 MB)
avail memory = 2079641600 (1983 MB)
FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 2 CPUs
 cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
 cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
ioapic0: Changing APIC ID to 2
ioapic0  irqs 0-23 on motherboard
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled

Will the GENERIC options fit for this or will other options boost this
processor to his maxium? I remember in 4.x that HT was an option but
now it's seems defaulted.

Thanks for your time.
Regards.
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Re: Finding the Right Sound Driver ...

2004-10-26 Thread Darren Pilgrim
[Redirected from -newbies.]

On Tue, October 26, 2004 12:50 pm, Siavash EDRISI said:
> Hi!
>
> I have been reading the text "Setting Up the Sound Card" at
>
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/sound-setup.html
>
> in order to find and install the right driver for the sound card in my
> i386. The hardware is an ESS 1869 PCI. Before I had WinXP installed on
> this hardware and it reported that the location of the card is: PCI
> slot 3 (PCI bus 0, device 14, function 0)
>
> I did whatever is described in the section 7.2.1 of the manual:
>
> 1- I checked the entries in "/boot/defaults/loader.conf". The right line
> was
>   snd_sbc_load="NO"
> I imagine this means that the driver is already somewhere on the harddisk!

It means the kernel will not attempt to load the snd_sbc module at boot.

> 2- Then I inserted the following line into /boot/loader.conf
>   snd_sbc_load="YES"
>
> 3- I booted the system.
>
> Right after calling "startx" and entering KDE I got (as usual) the error
> message that the sound server could not find the file /dev/dsp.

This may be due to a number of reasons.  Among them are the snd_sbc driver
not being the right driver for your hardware and KDE/X not being
configured with the correct device.

The first step is to provide copies of the outputs of the commands `uname
-a`, `dmesg` and `kldstat`.

Did you first try loading snd.ko (4.x) or snd_driver.ko (5.x) and see
which driver finds your hardware?

> As I read in the manual configuring a custom kernel with sound support is
> just a second method and can be used alternatively. So I am not sure if I
> really have to do something in the kernel or not, since the first efforts
> did not help!

Typically you don't need to recompile the kernel just to add something
like a sound driver.  Loading the module works just fine.  Just to be
sure, please provide a copy of your kernel configuration file so it can be
checked.

> Could someone please tell me what I still have to do?

Send a reply with the requested, necessary information.
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Re: interim port versions

2004-10-26 Thread Charles Swiger
On Oct 26, 2004, at 3:52 PM, Spiral Eyed Girl wrote:
Quick question: Whats a port freeze?
Normally, the port committers make changes to the ports tree all of the  
time, on a continuing basis.  A ports freeze occurs to help get the  
ports tree caught up and avoid making sweeping changes just before a  
new version of the OS is released.

See: http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html
During a ports freeze, changes need to be approved by portmgr.
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On Oct 21, 2004, at 7:48 PM, Aaron P. Martinez wrote:
I'm new to the bsd's, came from linux and i'm having a bit of  
difficulty
figuring out the general philosophy.
OK.  (Welcome!)
One of the major reasons that i decided to try out the 'bsds'  is
because of the security.  I'm having a hard time however figuring out
how security issues in the ports get dealt with when there is a port
freeze, like now.  The best example i can think of is gaim...(i almost
didn't recheck the port on the 4.10 tree, it's now mysteriously up to
date, phew.)
As I mentioned above, the ports tree still changes during a freeze.
Security fixes to ports are very likely to get quick approval by  
portmgr.

..slightly altered next paragraph
lets say i found out there is a msn slp buffer overflow (like  
currently)
and i wanted to protect myselfso i cvsuped my ports tree and then
wanted to portupgrade... problem is...since it's a port freeze...up
until a few days ago it's still at 0.82  not the 1.02 that is out now,  
I
watched it and never saw version 1.00 or 1.01.  Are the ports frozen
_except_for_security_fixes or am i missing something.
I was going to say, "the latter", but maybe it's a little of both.  :-)
Note that you are free to update ports manually.  Try looking for a PR  
containing the changes to update the port(s) you care about, or perhaps  
by doing the work yourself.

I looked around on the lists for this but didn't see it and it seems
like a fairly big deal if security issues arise during a freeze.
This issue was recently discussed here:
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=146244+0+/usr/local/www/ 
db/text/2004/freebsd-current/20041017.freebsd-current
http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=149246+0+archive/2004/ 
freebsd-current/20041017.freebsd-current

--
-Chuck
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Re: FreeBSD and UPS's

2004-10-26 Thread Bob Bomar
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On Oct 26, 2004, at 3:13 PM, Michael A. Alestock wrote:
I was just curious if FreeBSD supports any of the UPS's that have the 
automated powerdown feature in the event of powerloss (APM)?

Look at sysutils/nut and sysutils/apcupsd
I have 2 Matrix 5000's connected to a 4.8 machine, and it works fine 
with
nut.

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Re: lib/pam problems...

2004-10-26 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 10:08:32AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:

>   Rats!  I started fresh with my 5.2 CD then upgraded to
>   (I thought) RELENG_5, but ended up building 4.whatever.
>   On my third try i rebuilt using an explicit _5_3 and
>   got 5.3-RELEASE #2.  tHere are fewer than 30 ports on
>   my devel box.  Would you recommend I portupgrade -fa everything??

Yeah, that might be best.

Kris


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some advice needed to considering to move my w2k machine into a freebsd workstation.

2004-10-26 Thread Jian Guang Xu
My current system follows:
AMD Athlon 1600+, 1 Gigabytes RAM, 40 Giga harddrive, GeForce 2 with
32 Mb, AC97 Onboard Audio Adaptor, D-Link DFE-538TX.

The system got follow applications:
W2K Workstation Professional runs very smooth right now.
Firefox 1.0 for most of the web surfing. IE occasionally but nessary
for some of the website I need to go to due to personally reason.
Thunderbird for me email and newsgroup reading.
VMWare to testing FreeBSD.
ACT! 2005 as a CRM software(personal organizor as well) but I'm trying
to move to a  internet application via www.freecrm.com
OpenOffice currently runs in my system with MS Office removed.
Acrobat 5.0 for form editing(Occasionally)
MusicMatch for online radio (all the time)
Realplayer for DVD/Movie(Occasionally)
I have online conference calls using MS Media Player Plugin which is
very important for me.
Zonealarm as my firewall, Norton Antirus.
I'm using a home network connected to Rogers High Speed via DHCP
protocol, another machine is a XP laptop.

My job is in Marketing field so I do need the system to be robust and
more productivity. At the same time, I have the dream to play OS
around and hack into the system at my spare time. To be honest, I'm
pretty happy with my current system with all the feature I specified.

Is there anybody could point out a way to play FreeBSD around and at
the same time, I could perform my job easily? As I said, I need the
Media Player plug in a lot, and any suggestion for a CRM software
under BSD would be much appreciated.

I gotta be very careful to change a system.

I thank you for reading my nonsense post and hoping that  if somebody
could give me some advice.

JX
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FreeBSD and UPS's

2004-10-26 Thread Michael A. Alestock
I was just curious if FreeBSD supports any of the UPS's that have the 
automated powerdown feature in the event of powerloss (APM)?


Michael A. Alestock,
- Computer Systems Support/UNIX Support Specialist (Geek)
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Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows

2004-10-26 Thread Bart Silverstrim
On Oct 26, 2004, at 2:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Integration is what separates the men from the boys, so don't complain.
If it were "easy" most of us would be doing something else.
Not necessarily.
Changing your oil isn't that hard.  Most people pay someone else to do 
it though.

Fixing a hole in drywall isn't that hard.  Most people pay someone else 
to do it though.

Even mowing a yard isn't hard, but many people out there still hire 
people to do it for them.

"easy" doesn't mean that the service niche goes away; as long as people 
are busy enough that the job is an inconvenience to do themselves, 
there's always a demand for the service, easy or not.

Sorry, know this is probably a tangent from what was implied, but I get 
tired of people saying that we need our stress and problems because if 
it were easy we'd all be out of jobs.  We'd be paid far less if it were 
a commodity service, perhaps, but it doesn't automatically mean we're 
going to be jobless just because we made a network or system that 
works...if anything, it means we could finally focus on training users 
and creating training materials for them to help them use the system we 
put into place!

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linux_base compatibility issue?

2004-10-26 Thread Stephen Fulton
Hi Derrick,
Did you find a solution to your problem with FBSD 4.x and CS:Source? 
I'm running into the same issue now.

-- Stephen.
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RE: interim port versions

2004-10-26 Thread Spiral Eyed Girl
Qucik question: Whats a port freeze?
From: "Aaron P. Martinez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: interim port versions
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:48:18 -0500
I'm new to the bsd's, came from linux and i'm having a bit of difficulty
figuring out the general philosophy.
One of the major reasons that i decided to try out the 'bsds'  is
because of the security.  I'm having a hard time however figuring out
how security issues in the ports get dealt with when there is a port
freeze, like now.  The best example i can think of is gaim...(i almost
didn't recheck the port on the 4.10 tree, it's now mysteriously up to
date, phew.)
..slightly altered next paragraph
lets say i found out there is a msn slp buffer overflow (like currently)
and i wanted to protect myselfso i cvsuped my ports tree and then
wanted to portupgrade... problem is...since it's a port freeze...up
until a few days ago it's still at 0.82  not the 1.02 that is out now, I
watched it and never saw version 1.00 or 1.01.  Are the ports frozen
_except_for_security_fixes or am i missing something.
I looked around on the lists for this but didn't see it and it seems
like a fairly big deal if security issues arise during a freeze.
Thanks in advance,
Aaron
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Network speed mysteries

2004-10-26 Thread Andrew P.
Dear friends
I have just stumbled upon a phenomena, which I cannot believe is real, 
though I reproduced it easily. Some days ago I have set up a 
FreeBSD-4.10 file-server. I have a small network in my room (3 boxes, 
100Mbps). I uploaded some files from my Windows 2000 PC, using the 
latest version of FileZilla client. The speed was pretty constant at 
9.5Mbytes/s. Two days ago I switched to Windows XP SP2, reinstalled all 
the software and was taken aback when I tried to upload some more files 
and the speed never exceeded 3.5Mb/s. I browsed and googled for some 
hours, made dozens of assumptions, tried to reconfigure both Windows and 
FreeBSD - but it was all in vain.

Just an hour ago I decided to rebuild the file-server kernel - and it 
takes time to build it there, as it's an old Celeron box with little 
RAM. By coincidence, some files were being uploaded just when I entered 
"make buildkernel ...". I looked at FileZilla windows, expecting to see 
the speed drop - but WOW! - the speed was at 7Mbytes/s!!! It then 
hovered around 6.5-9Mbytes/s while the kernel was being built! I waited 
for some minutes until the kernel was finally built - and the upload 
speed dropped back to 2.5-3.5Mb/s. I couldn't believe it - and I still 
can't - so I waited and built a kernel once more - with all the same 
effects on speed! It's worth to mention, that when I was installing the 
built kernel, the speed didn't change from usual 3Mb/s.

Please let me know what the heck is going on - or just what you think 
about it.

Best regards,
Andrew P.
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Re: First impressions of FreeBSD 5.3

2004-10-26 Thread Mark Cullen
Gordon Freeman wrote:
Well, After upgrading a very vanilla 5.2.1 to 5.3 a lot of things are
just broken.
ipfstat doesn't run. The error:
openkmem:open:no such file or directory
My RAID card (Adaptec 2150 using asr driver) is inaccessible because
the rasr control device no longer exists. Making raidutil useless.
And the server runs incredibly slow. (No I didn't leave in the testing options)
The upgrade was far from smooth for me. Which was mostly my fault
(/usr/src/UPDATING is a must read) but that doesn't really explain why
things are running so badly on this box.
ACPI is disabled, and aside from including IPF and SMP options into
the kernel, it is a very generic kernel as well.
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Not an answer to your question but on my (old 133MHz) box 5.x is alot 
lot slower than 4.x. But I think the general response there will be... 
you shouldn't run 5.x on such a slow box :)

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Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows

2004-10-26 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-10-26 14:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In a message dated 10/26/04 10:07:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>> Nonsense, if you ask me.  For many reasons:
>>
>> a. Windows doesn't work nicely even for small networks most of the time.
>> It's not the size of the network that matters.  It's the nature of the
>> network.  Homogeneous, Windows-only networks will usually work somehow;
>> not optimally, mind you, but they can be coerced into working.
>> Heterogeneous networking environments, with many different types and
>> versions of operating systems, are not so easy to use from Windows.
>
> the same can be said of Cisco based networks.  Everything works "better"
> with products of the same make.  Even NFS between different un*x boxes has
> issues.

The fact that Cisco does something wrong doesn't somehow make it right for
Windows.  It's not a good excuse either.

> Integration is what separates the men from the boys, so don't complain.
> If it were "easy" most of us would be doing something else.

I don't see you supporting UNIX because "it's harder to use, so it must be
what 'real men' use".  Probably because this sort of argument is pointless.

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Re: Only Template file not copied to sub-directories at cvs checkout time

2004-10-26 Thread login
Hello,

Here is current environment:

On cvs client host:

# uname -a
FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE

# cvs -v
Concurrent Versions System (CVS) 1.11.5-FreeBSD (client/server)
..

On Server host:

# uname -a
FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE

# cvsd -V
cvsd 1.0.0

On client host, I have initiated these commands:

# export CVSROOT=:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/cvsroot
# export CVS_RSH=/usr/bin/rsh
# mkdir cvs-test; cd cvs-test
# cvs co project/alpha/section1

When I modify a file at section1 level, and issue cvs commit, the Template 
is perfact in the CVS directory and I see that being called and added the 
following lines at the top of log:

PR# (blank if N/a):
Feature Title (max 30 characters):
Modules Affected (max 30 characters):
Change PR status to fixed?(y/n):
Log Message:

However, if I modify a file in the subdirecotry of section1 (say for example 
subdir1), the Template file is not in the CVS directory anymore at that 
level. 

How comes the CVS/Template is only copies at top level but not 
subdirectories levels at the cvs checkout time? Btw, other files in CVS are 
copied at all levels but Template which is only at top-level.


S. Mohammad [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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First impressions of FreeBSD 5.3

2004-10-26 Thread Gordon Freeman
Well, After upgrading a very vanilla 5.2.1 to 5.3 a lot of things are
just broken.

ipfstat doesn't run. The error:
openkmem:open:no such file or directory

My RAID card (Adaptec 2150 using asr driver) is inaccessible because
the rasr control device no longer exists. Making raidutil useless.

And the server runs incredibly slow. (No I didn't leave in the testing options)

The upgrade was far from smooth for me. Which was mostly my fault
(/usr/src/UPDATING is a must read) but that doesn't really explain why
things are running so badly on this box.

ACPI is disabled, and aside from including IPF and SMP options into
the kernel, it is a very generic kernel as well.
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Re: GPL vs BSD Licence

2004-10-26 Thread TM4525
In a message dated 10/26/04 2:26:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Foundation, who is the copyright holder of the GPL license itself.
> In fact, the FSF advises authors to transfer copyright rights of their
> work to the FSF to avoid these problems.

>Ah, so your point is that people should transfer their copyrights to an
>organization dedicated to keeping the code free.  Well, maybe they 
should,>but that has nothing to do with which license is used.

I think they both have it wrong. If you want to donate your code to 
the general community, make it available with no restrictions. The
entire concept of "here, use my crappy code but don't make any
money off of it" is totally lame. If someone takes it and doesn't 
give away the changes it doesn't diminish the original contribution. 
Its still there. 

Finishing a product is what has value. Anyone can write code that does
this or that. Making it into something that someone is willing to pay 
for is what has value. And the more products that are available, the
better off the community is. Even if they're not free. You still have 
the choice of paying for it or not. And you still have the original
contribution to change as you please.
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Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows

2004-10-26 Thread TM4525
In a message dated 10/26/04 10:07:10 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

[much snippage]
>Nonsense, if you ask me.  For many reasons:
>
>a. Windows doesn't work nicely even for small networks most of the time.
>
>It's not the size of the network that matters.  It's the nature of the
>network.  Homogeneous, Windows-only networks will usually work somehow;
>not optimally, mind you, but they can be coerced into working.
>Heterogeneous networking environments, with many different types and
>versions of operating systems, are not so easy to use from Windows.

the same can be said of Cisco based networks. Everything works "better"
with products of the same make.  Even NFS between different un*x boxes
has issues.

Integration is what separates the men from the boys, so don't complain. 
If it were "easy" most of us would be doing something else.
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Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows

2004-10-26 Thread Micheal Patterson


- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows


In a message dated 10/26/04 12:24:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> If you think that administering a Windows server is so simple then
> answer the following test:
>
> How do you lock down an Exchange 5.5 server to prevent a spammer from
> using it as a relay.
>

So who was the one who said either was "easy"?

I said it takes a higher
talent level to generally administer a un*x box than a windows box. I don't
think that just because you can think of something thats not easy to do
in windows makes any point at all. The fact that a un*x guy had
to be called in to solve the problem says alot about the type of talent that
is required to do most things that windows techs do.

-

I agree with you. However, it wasn't I that posed that question. :)

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Re: GPL vs BSD Licence

2004-10-26 Thread Danny MacMillan
I will preface my reply with the following disclaimer:  I am no
lawyer.  However as it's clear that you're not either, it makes
little practical difference.

On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 01:51:02AM -0600, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> What is ignored is that the GPL contains a loophole - it DOES allow
> itself to be violated by a very specific person - the code copyright
> holder.

There is no violation.  The copyright holder is the licensor, not the
licensee.  No one needs a license to use the materials to which she
holds the copyright.  A license is used to grant (usually limited)
rights to people who do not hold the copyright.  The copyright holder,
by definition, has those rights and does not need them to be assigned.

> The reason is that the GPL is a license that DOES NOT CHANGE the
> copyright.

No license changes the copyright; see below.

> In short, if you apply the real live BSD license to your code, you
> are explicitly transferring your copyright to the Regents of the
> University of California.

This is nonsense.  Copyright assignment and licensing are separate and
discrete.  You certainly can assign your copyright to the Regents if you
wish.  This has no doubt been done.  However, you can assign your
copyright to anyone you wish, regardless of the license that is used.
In fact, the instant you assign your copyright you no longer have the
right to decide under what license the copyrighted material will be
provided (if at all), although when assigning to the Regents "BSD" is
a pretty safe bet.  Furthermore, licensing material under the BSD
license does not imply that the copyright will be transferred to
the Regents.  The copyright holder is identified at the top of the
BSD license; this information is important as it identifies the
licensor, one party to the agreement represented by the license.
For material you wrote, you are the copyright holder unless and until
you explicitly assign the copyright to another entity, or you're under
some agreement with someone (with your employer, for example) that
causes the copyright for the product of your work to belong to them.
Identifying the Regents as the copyright holder at the top of a BSD
license pertaining to material you wrote probably is legally
sufficient to transfer the copyright to them, but you are not
obligated to identify them as the copyright holder or relinquish
your copyright just to use the BSD license.

I refer you to the license itself:

http://www.opensource.org/licenses/bsd-license.php

Note the placeholder for .

I fully expect you to argue that a BSD license that does not identify
the Regents of the University of California is not "the real live
BSD license".  I would disagree.  By what criteria can an authentic
BSD license be distinguished from lesser imitations?  I doubt that
whether the Regents are the licensor are not is a criteria in common
use -- see above web site, which is about as authoritative a
reference as exists for free and open source licenses.  It's also
instructive to peruse the source code for the ostensibly BSD-licensed
FreeBSD operating system and see who holds the copyright.

Most of the rest of your arguments, being based on this fallacy, is
invalid.  To the extent that your arguments against the GPL are
valid, they are equally valid arguments against the BSD license.

> 
> ...
> 
> In short, Linus Torvalds owns copyright on the Linux kernel used in
> Linux.  He is legally free to license a copy of the Linux kernel
> to any commercial entity.  Granted, he cannot license out any files
> of the Linux kernel that he himself didn't write.  And of course,
> an OS is so complex and has so many files, that it would be likely
> that a purely Linus Torvalds kernel would be unrunnable. (at lest
> the kernel of today)
> 
> But in theory he could take his code and license it to some UNIX
> vendor separately, he is not obligated to license new versions of
> it under the GPL.
> 
> Now, you might think "So what, Linus will never do this"
> 
> But, what if he dies of a heart attack tomorrow?  Well, his copyright
> of Linux is property that will exist for another 70 years.  What happens
> if some company like SCO Group comes along and offers Linus's heirs
> a million dollars to purchase the Linux kernel copyright?  Do you
> think they wouldn't sell?
> 
> Sure, the GPL'd version of the kernel is still out there.  But, the
> copyright owner could make hay with the subsequent confusion.
> 
> These issues are NOT speculative and are NOT unknown by the Free Software
> Foundation, who is the copyright holder of the GPL license itself.
> In fact, the FSF advises authors to transfer copyright rights of their
> work to the FSF to avoid these problems.

Ah, so your point is that people should transfer their copyrights to an
organization dedicated to keeping the code free.  Well, maybe they should,
but that has nothing to do with which license is used.

> But, very few have done so.  It appears most GPL license proponents
> who writ

procmail postfix maildir

2004-10-26 Thread RYAN vAN GINNEKEN
I am useing Freebsd 4.10stable, postfix 2.1.5 with SASL and TLS,
procmail version 3.22 and binc IMAP 1.2.8 binc uses Maildir style mail
boxes and i have everthing set up to for $HOME/IMAPdir.  Funny thing is
pocmail sends me the mails it filters fine but the stuff it doesnt
filter gets lost in my system mail box /var/mail/rmvg. I  have included
my .procmailrc, rc.test (reciepe file with test rule), and
pmlog(procmail log with verbose enabled) also a postconf -n file for all
to see and hopefully someone can help me solve this problem.
.procmailrc
 Begin Variables section 
# It is essential that you set SHELL to a Bourne-type shell if
# external commands are run from your procmailrc, for example if
# you use rc.spamassassin, rc.quarantine, or other advanced recipes.
# Setting SHELL should not be needed for the simple sorting recipes in
# this step-by-step section, but to be safe and to future proof your
# procmailrc, set it anyway! Details are in Check Your $SHELL and $PATH.
SHELL=/bin/sh
#PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:.
# Directory for storing procmail configuration and log files
# You can name this variable anything you like, for
# example PROCMAILDIR or don't set it (but then don't refer to it!)
PMDIR=$HOME/Procmail
# LOGFILE should be specified ASAP so everything below it is logged
# Put ## before LOGFILE if you want no logging (not recommended)
LOGFILE=$PMDIR/pmlog
# To insert a blank line between each message's log entry,
# uncomment next two lines (this is helpful for debugging)
LOG="
"
# Set to yes when debugging; VERBOSE default is no
VERBOSE=yes
# Replace $HOME/Msgs with the directory where your personal
(non-system-spool) mail
# Mutt and elm use $HOME/Mail
# Pine uses $HOME/mail
# Netscape Messenger uses $HOME/nsmail
# Some NNTP clients, such as slrn & nn, use $HOME/News
# Mailboxes in maildir format or served by Courier IMAP are often in
$HOME/Maildir
# Mailboxes served by UW IMAP are sometimes in $HOME
MAILDIR=$HOME/IMAPdir # This directory must exist & be writable by
your LOGNAME
#DEFAULT=IN-catchall  # On most systems, your
$MAILDIR is a sub
# IMPORTANT: Upon reading a line that begins with MAILDIR=
#Procmail does a chdir to $MAILDIR and
#relative paths are relative to $MAILDIR
 End Variables section; Begin Processing section 
INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.testing
#INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.subscriptions
# Messages that fall through all your procmail recipes are delivered
# to your default INBOX. To find out yours, see step 2 above.
 End Processing section 

rc.testing
:0
* ^Subject:.*test
IN-testing/
#IN-testing
#IN-testing/
#IN-testing/.
#.IN-testing
pmlog
procmail: [10251] Tue Oct 26 00:11:32 2004
procmail: Assigning "MAILDIR=/home/rmvg/IMAPdir"
procmail: Assigning "INCLUDERC=/home/rmvg/Procmail/rc.testing"
procmail: No match on "^Subject:.*test"
procmail: Bypassed locking "/var/mail/rmvg.lock"
procmail: Assigning "LASTFOLDER=/var/mail/rmvg"
procmail: Opening "/var/mail/rmvg"
procmail: Acquiring kernel-lock
procmail: Notified comsat: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/mail/rmvg"
From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Tue Oct 26 00:11:32 2004
Subject: procmail final
Folder:
/var/mail/rmvg885
procmail: [10252] Tue Oct 26 00:11:41 2004
procmail: Assigning "MAILDIR=/home/rmvg/IMAPdir"
procmail: Assigning "INCLUDERC=/home/rmvg/Procmail/rc.testing"
procmail: Match on "^Subject:.*test"
procmail: Assigning
"LASTFOLDER=IN-testing/new/1098771101.10252_0.v22.computerking.
procmail: Notified comsat:
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/rmvg/IMAPdir/IN-testing/new/1098771101.102
From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Tue Oct 26 00:11:41 2004
Subject: procmail testing
Folder:
IN-testing/new/1098771101.10252_0.v22.computerking.ca 848
postconf -n
alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases
broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
command_directory = /usr/local/sbin
config_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix
daemon_directory = /usr/local/libexec/postfix
debug_peer_level = 2
home_mailbox = IMAPdir/INBOX/
html_directory = no
inet_interfaces = all
mail_owner = postfix
mailq_path = /usr/local/bin/mailq
manpage_directory = /usr/local/man
mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain $mydomain
mydomain = computerking.ca
myhostname = mail1.computerking.ca
mynetworks_style = subnet
myorigin = $mydomain
newaliases_path = /usr/local/bin/newaliases
queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix
readme_directory = no
relay_domains = $mydestination, shoemasters.computerking.ca, highcoup.ca
sample_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix
sendmail_path = /usr/local/sbin/sendmail
setgid_group = maildrop
smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd
smtp_tls_loglevel = 2
smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes
smtp_use_tls = yes
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks,
permit_mx_backup,permit_sasl_authenticated,
reject_unauth_destination
smtpd_sasl_application_name = smtpd
smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
smtpd_sasl_local_domain

interim port versions

2004-10-26 Thread Aaron P. Martinez

I'm new to the bsd's, came from linux and i'm having a bit of difficulty
figuring out the general philosophy.

One of the major reasons that i decided to try out the 'bsds'  is
because of the security.  I'm having a hard time however figuring out
how security issues in the ports get dealt with when there is a port
freeze, like now.  The best example i can think of is gaim...(i almost
didn't recheck the port on the 4.10 tree, it's now mysteriously up to
date, phew.)

..slightly altered next paragraph
lets say i found out there is a msn slp buffer overflow (like currently)
and i wanted to protect myselfso i cvsuped my ports tree and then
wanted to portupgrade... problem is...since it's a port freeze...up
until a few days ago it's still at 0.82  not the 1.02 that is out now, I
watched it and never saw version 1.00 or 1.01.  Are the ports frozen
_except_for_security_fixes or am i missing something. 


I looked around on the lists for this but didn't see it and it seems
like a fairly big deal if security issues arise during a freeze.  

Thanks in advance,

Aaron

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stack overflow after boot menu when booting from CD

2004-10-26 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
Hi all,

I have a little problem with FreeBSD 5.2.1 boot CD. After booting from it I 
can see the boot menu and below "error: stack overflow".

The machine is a Pentium 233 MMX with 128mb RAM.
Any ideas on this?

TIA and Greetings, Matthias

PS: I have no problem with a FreeBSD 4.10 CD, but I need 5.x cause of 
ACLs...

PPS: There is allready a bug submitted, but without any fix:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=67260

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procmail postfix maildir

2004-10-26 Thread RYAN vAN GINNEKEN
I am useing Freebsd 4.10stable, postfix 2.1.5 with SASL and TLS,  
procmail version 3.22 and binc IMAP 1.2.8 binc uses Maildir style mail 
boxes and i have everthing set up to for $HOME/IMAPdir.  Funny thing is 
pocmail sends me the mails it filters fine but the stuff it doesnt 
filter gets lost in my system mail box /var/mail/rmvg. I  have included 
my .procmailrc, rc.test (reciepe file with test rule), and 
pmlog(procmail log with verbose enabled) also a postconf -n file for all 
to see and hopefully someone can help me solve this problem.
.procmailrc

 Begin Variables section 
# It is essential that you set SHELL to a Bourne-type shell if
# external commands are run from your procmailrc, for example if
# you use rc.spamassassin, rc.quarantine, or other advanced recipes.
# Setting SHELL should not be needed for the simple sorting recipes in
# this step-by-step section, but to be safe and to future proof your
# procmailrc, set it anyway! Details are in Check Your $SHELL and $PATH.
SHELL=/bin/sh
#PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/bin:.
# Directory for storing procmail configuration and log files
# You can name this variable anything you like, for
# example PROCMAILDIR or don't set it (but then don't refer to it!)
PMDIR=$HOME/Procmail
# LOGFILE should be specified ASAP so everything below it is logged
# Put ## before LOGFILE if you want no logging (not recommended)
LOGFILE=$PMDIR/pmlog
# To insert a blank line between each message's log entry,
# uncomment next two lines (this is helpful for debugging)
LOG="
"
# Set to yes when debugging; VERBOSE default is no
VERBOSE=yes
# Replace $HOME/Msgs with the directory where your personal 
(non-system-spool) mail
# Mutt and elm use $HOME/Mail
# Pine uses $HOME/mail
# Netscape Messenger uses $HOME/nsmail
# Some NNTP clients, such as slrn & nn, use $HOME/News
# Mailboxes in maildir format or served by Courier IMAP are often in 
$HOME/Maildir
# Mailboxes served by UW IMAP are sometimes in $HOME
MAILDIR=$HOME/IMAPdir # This directory must exist & be writable by 
your LOGNAME
#DEFAULT=IN-catchall  # On most systems, your 
$MAILDIR is a sub
# IMPORTANT: Upon reading a line that begins with MAILDIR=
#Procmail does a chdir to $MAILDIR and
#relative paths are relative to $MAILDIR

 End Variables section; Begin Processing section 
INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.testing
#INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.subscriptions
# Messages that fall through all your procmail recipes are delivered
# to your default INBOX. To find out yours, see step 2 above.
 End Processing section 

rc.testing
:0
* ^Subject:.*test
IN-testing/
#IN-testing
#IN-testing/
#IN-testing/.
#.IN-testing
pmlog
procmail: [10251] Tue Oct 26 00:11:32 2004
procmail: Assigning "MAILDIR=/home/rmvg/IMAPdir"
procmail: Assigning "INCLUDERC=/home/rmvg/Procmail/rc.testing"
procmail: No match on "^Subject:.*test"
procmail: Bypassed locking "/var/mail/rmvg.lock"
procmail: Assigning "LASTFOLDER=/var/mail/rmvg"
procmail: Opening "/var/mail/rmvg"
procmail: Acquiring kernel-lock
procmail: Notified comsat: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/mail/rmvg"
From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Tue Oct 26 00:11:32 2004
Subject: procmail final
Folder: 
/var/mail/rmvg885

procmail: [10252] Tue Oct 26 00:11:41 2004
procmail: Assigning "MAILDIR=/home/rmvg/IMAPdir"
procmail: Assigning "INCLUDERC=/home/rmvg/Procmail/rc.testing"
procmail: Match on "^Subject:.*test"
procmail: Assigning 
"LASTFOLDER=IN-testing/new/1098771101.10252_0.v22.computerking.
procmail: Notified comsat: 
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/rmvg/IMAPdir/IN-testing/new/1098771101.102
From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Tue Oct 26 00:11:41 2004
Subject: procmail testing
Folder: 
IN-testing/new/1098771101.10252_0.v22.computerking.ca 848

postconf -n
alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases
broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
command_directory = /usr/local/sbin
config_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix
daemon_directory = /usr/local/libexec/postfix
debug_peer_level = 2
home_mailbox = IMAPdir/INBOX/
html_directory = no
inet_interfaces = all
mail_owner = postfix
mailq_path = /usr/local/bin/mailq
manpage_directory = /usr/local/man
mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain $mydomain
mydomain = computerking.ca
myhostname = mail1.computerking.ca
mynetworks_style = subnet
myorigin = $mydomain
newaliases_path = /usr/local/bin/newaliases
queue_directory = /var/spool/postfix
readme_directory = no
relay_domains = $mydestination, shoemasters.computerking.ca, highcoup.ca
sample_directory = /usr/local/etc/postfix
sendmail_path = /usr/local/sbin/sendmail
setgid_group = maildrop
smtp_sasl_password_maps = hash:/etc/postfix/sasl_passwd
smtp_tls_loglevel = 2
smtp_tls_note_starttls_offer = yes
smtp_use_tls = yes
smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks,   
permit_mx_backup,permit_sasl_authenticated,
reject_unauth_destination
smtpd_sasl_application_name = smtpd
smtpd_sasl_auth_e

Is anyone running Novells eDirectory on Freebsd

2004-10-26 Thread Paul Hillen
Hi everyone,

 

I want to know if anyone out there is running Novell's eDirectory on FreeBSD
and if so, what OS version.

 

I am at moving from an NT Domain and would like to look into eDirectory, but
I really don't like Linux as much as FreeBSD.

 

I know FreeBSD has Linux compatibility, but I need to know if anyone is
actually using it.

 

Thanks in advance

Paul

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free(): error: chunk is already free

2004-10-26 Thread Osmany Guirola Cruz
Hi people ... i am having this error when i close certain applications
for example i run 
%bpm
and when i close it. i got this
bpm in free(): error: chunk is already free
Abort
and create the bpm.core file :-(
and when i run  
%firefox
and close it 

firefox-bin in free(): error: chunk is already free
Abort trap (core dumped)

What should i do?

 Thanks 
   Osmany

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Re: GPL vs BSD Licence

2004-10-26 Thread TM4525
In a message dated 10/26/04 2:32:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Actually a more interesting example is some of the Linksys routers
do indeed use an embedded Linux along with Zebra as the routing engine.

Ted
 Or Allot communications, who openly advertise the use of linux, but do 
not make source available to an obviously modified kernel.. I believe they 
claim that the GPL is optional. 
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Re: Dlink-g520 Wireless and WEP more

2004-10-26 Thread scott renna
oh man...ok that's what i was afraid of.  i've always
wondered why you can't have two nics on the same
subnet in freebsd, maybe i'm just missing something or
is that by design?

I guess i'll drop the wired line and switch to
wireless tonight and give it a shot.

would aliasing one card to the next work, or is there
any particular reason why you can't have two ips from
the same subnet on a bsd box?
--- "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Tuesday 26 October 2004 17:38, scott renna wrote:
> > ok, well this system has a 3com, xl0 holding an ip
> of
> > 192.168.2.150
> > Does this mean that I need to have each interface
> > having an IP on a different subnet?
> > maybe I could change the mask on the xl0 to
> > 255.255.248.0 and it might work?
> Nope, that won't help.
> 
> > I wanted to have the wireless card on the same
> subnet
> > as the rest of the LAN and keep the wired card up
> and
> > running just for testing before permanently
> migrating
> > to this wireless card(i'm using encrypted
> protocols
> > locally so wep weaknesses should not be an issue).
> >
> > is there a way to have both cards be on the same
> > subnet and have the same subnet mask?
> Nope.
> If you would do that, FreeBSD wouldn't know on what
> interface it should send 
> packets destined for a PC on that subnet. (That's
> why ifconfig refuses to set 
> the ip address).
> 
> If you want to be able to switch between LAN and
> WLAN, you'll have to turn off 
> one of the interfaces...
> If you want to run over WLAN, type :
> ifconfig xl0 down
> ifconfig ath0 192.168.2.150 etc etc etc...
> 
> If you want to switch back to LAN, type :
> ifconfig ath0 down
> ifconfig xl0 up
> 
> You can assign the same ip address to multiple
> interfaces, but you can only 
> have one of the "up" at a time.
> 
> good luck,
> Daan
> 
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Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows

2004-10-26 Thread TM4525
In a message dated 10/26/04 12:24:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> If you think that administering a Windows server is so simple then
> answer the following test:
>
> How do you lock down an Exchange 5.5 server to prevent a spammer from
> using it as a relay.
>

So who was the one who said either was "easy"? 

I said it takes a higher 
talent level to generally administer a un*x box than a windows box. I don't 
think that just because you can think of something thats not easy to do
in windows makes any point at all. The fact that a un*x guy had
to be called in to solve the problem says alot about the type of talent that
is required to do most things that windows techs do.
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Re: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's?

2004-10-26 Thread Aaron Nichols
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:14:21 -0600, Adam Seniuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is more for redundancy, I have 2 on board nic's so if I can use both of
> them to do basic dns round robin load balancing and manual failover its more
> useful then one network card doing nothing :D

There is a sysctl variable which can be set to zero and would stop the
log events I think

net.link.ether.inet.log_arp_wrong_iface: 1

Hopefully that helps. 

Aaron
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RE: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's?

2004-10-26 Thread Adam Seniuk
This is more for redundancy, I have 2 on board nic's so if I can use both of
them to do basic dns round robin load balancing and manual failover its more
useful then one network card doing nothing :D


-Original Message-
From: Aaron Nichols [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 11:10 AM
To: Adam Seniuk
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's?

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:00:45 -0600, Adam Seniuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > xl0
> > arp: 192.168.1.100 is on fxp0 but got reply from 00:02:b3:9f:74:89 on
> > xl0
> > arp: 192.168.1.1 is on fxp0 but got reply from 00:07:e9:10:43:78 on
> 
> I get these messages in my logs (quite a few)
> 
> So I am not sure what is wrong. I noticed in another thread that freebsd
> does not allow ips from the same netmask so how does the blundering
windows
> do it?

Those messages are probably technically correct. Since both NIC's are
on the same wire, they are both going to see the same ARP
request/responses. I assume this error is just indicating that there
is already an ARP entry for 192.168.1.100 which indicates that it can
be found via fxp0 and it just saw an ARP response indicating that it
is also available via xl0 - so which should it use?  It's a bit
confusing to a machine which has to select the correct NIC to send
traffic out.

What is the goal of all this? Typically for multipe IP's on the same
subnet you would just use an alias - I assume that's not suitable in
this case but am not sure why.

Aaron


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Re: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's?

2004-10-26 Thread Aaron Nichols
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 11:00:45 -0600, Adam Seniuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > xl0
> > arp: 192.168.1.100 is on fxp0 but got reply from 00:02:b3:9f:74:89 on
> > xl0
> > arp: 192.168.1.1 is on fxp0 but got reply from 00:07:e9:10:43:78 on
> 
> I get these messages in my logs (quite a few)
> 
> So I am not sure what is wrong. I noticed in another thread that freebsd
> does not allow ips from the same netmask so how does the blundering windows
> do it?

Those messages are probably technically correct. Since both NIC's are
on the same wire, they are both going to see the same ARP
request/responses. I assume this error is just indicating that there
is already an ARP entry for 192.168.1.100 which indicates that it can
be found via fxp0 and it just saw an ARP response indicating that it
is also available via xl0 - so which should it use?  It's a bit
confusing to a machine which has to select the correct NIC to send
traffic out.

What is the goal of all this? Typically for multipe IP's on the same
subnet you would just use an alias - I assume that's not suitable in
this case but am not sure why.

Aaron
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Re: lib/pam problems...

2004-10-26 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 09:01:37AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 12:38:50AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 12:26:23AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > 
> > > > > Is your xdm linked to stale (FreeBSD 4.x) libraries?
> > > > > 
> > > Can you humour me and run a ldd on the xdm binary?
> > > 
> > Hm, ahhh, maybe...  (!)  sure...  
> > 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc# ldd `which xdm`
> > /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm:
> > libXpm.so.4 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x2808c000)
> > libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x2809a000)
> > libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x280af000)
> > libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x280f9000)
> > libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x28102000)
> > libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x28119000)
> > libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x28127000)
> > libXau.so.0 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXau.so.0 (0x281e5000)
> > libXdmcp.so.0 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXdmcp.so.0 (0x281e8000)
> > libpam.so.1 => /usr/lib/libpam.so.1 (0x281ec000)
> > libcrypt.so.2 => /lib/libcrypt.so.2 (0x281f6000)
> > libXinerama.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x2820e000)
> > libutil.so.3 => /usr/lib/libutil.so.3 (0x28211000)
> > libxpg4.so.3 => /usr/lib/libxpg4.so.3 (0x2821a000)
> > libc.so.4 => /usr/lib/libc.so.4 (0x2821c000)
>   ^
> 
> Thought so..that's a 4.x binary.  You can't mix 4.x binaries and 5.x
> libraries, which is why you're getting the PAM failure from dlopen().
> Rebuild it.
> 
> Kris

Rats!  I started fresh with my 5.2 CD then upgraded to
(I thought) RELENG_5, but ended up building 4.whatever.
On my third try i rebuilt using an explicit _5_3 and
got 5.3-RELEASE #2.  tHere are fewer than 30 ports on
my devel box.  Would you recommend I portupgrade -fa everything??

you're a gentleman and a scholar, Kris.

gary

PS:  FWIW, my upgrade script did a portclean to get rid
 of old libs, &c.




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RE: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's?

2004-10-26 Thread Adam Seniuk
> xl0
> arp: 192.168.1.100 is on fxp0 but got reply from 00:02:b3:9f:74:89 on 
> xl0
> arp: 192.168.1.1 is on fxp0 but got reply from 00:07:e9:10:43:78 on

I get these messages in my logs (quite a few) 

So I am not sure what is wrong. I noticed in another thread that freebsd
does not allow ips from the same netmask so how does the blundering windows
do it?

-Original Message-
From: pete wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 10:57 AM
To: Adam Seniuk
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's?

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:27:03 -0600, Adam Seniuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hello;
> 
> I am wondering how to get 2 Different network cards to have 2 Different
IP's
> but I want to have both ips on the same ip block.
> 
> For example:
> 
> 192.168.1.100 on NIC 1
> 
> 192.168.1.101 on NIC 2
> 
> Gateway 192.168.1.1
> 
> Not sure on how to set it up properly. I would appreciate any help or tips
> people have on this subject. and yes I have googled for it but none have
> this scenario :D
> 
maybe i'm missing something obvious here, but why can't you just
assign 192.168.1.1 as your default route then assign each of those
ip's thier respective nic's?

-p


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Re: 2 Network Cards & 2 IP's?

2004-10-26 Thread pete wright
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 10:27:03 -0600, Adam Seniuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello;
> 
> I am wondering how to get 2 Different network cards to have 2 Different IP's
> but I want to have both ips on the same ip block.
> 
> For example:
> 
> 192.168.1.100 on NIC 1
> 
> 192.168.1.101 on NIC 2
> 
> Gateway 192.168.1.1
> 
> Not sure on how to set it up properly. I would appreciate any help or tips
> people have on this subject. and yes I have googled for it but none have
> this scenario :D
> 
maybe i'm missing something obvious here, but why can't you just
assign 192.168.1.1 as your default route then assign each of those
ip's thier respective nic's?

-p


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Re: A good IDE for C development?

2004-10-26 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 12:29:08PM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> On 2004-10-26 00:04, "Loren M. Lang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On Sun, Oct 24, 2004 at 12:45:55AM +0300, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> >>On 2004-10-23 22:52, John Oxley wrote:

[ ... ]

> >> I use both Emacs and vim, with reasonable levels of comfort.  I haven't
> >> found a way to convince ctags that it's ok for a tag to appear multiple
> >> times (which can really be annoying when editing the sources of a kernel,
> >> where names are *bound* to appear multiple times), but I know what you
> >> mean.
> >
> > Are you using exuberant ctags?  I've had problems with various other ctags
> > programs choking before, but exuberant has usually worked instead.  Now I
> > know that I had some programs with exuberant ctags with the linux kernel
> > before, but I think if exuberant knows all the defines then it should be
> > able to figure out which tag is correct by way of the c pre-processor.
> 
> I don't think so.  I tried using `/usr/bin/ctags' but being able to do my work
> with Emacs' support for tags didn't search for other vim-compatible tagging
> tools.  I see now that Exuberant Ctags is available as the devel/ctags port.
> Perhaps it would be nice to try it out one of these days.
> 
> Apparently it doesn't even conflict with the /usr/local/bin/ctags
> executable that comes with Emacs (it's installed as exctags in the same
> directory).  Coolness!
> 
I've given up on emacs, save for use in vi-mode: [x]emacs
demands at least two hands:)   Beside, my fingers know vi
automatically.  --That said, isn't/wasn't there some kind 
of IDE that let the user choose different toolsets??--  
(For example, I might be happy with an integrated [n]vi 
or vim + ctags + gdb)  I've tried the KDE flavor of IDE
back while running SuSE but it's editor gave me fits;
kept hitting ESC and the [jk] keys, &c.  

In the end, I think the IDE concept might not do that
much for productivity; it may be more along thr 
'neat-toys' category.  But I'll withhold my biases until
I learn differently.  If there is no IDE that lets you
pick-and-choose, is there any that uses vi* as its
default?

gary


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SV: SV: Vinum, and poweroutage... HELP!

2004-10-26 Thread Thomas Rasmussen


This is what happend...

Still got the second disk... what to do now? 


Fsck -b32 -y /dev/vinum/mirror

webserver1# mount /dev/vinum/mirror /a
webserver1# ls
.cshrc  .login_conf .mailrc .rhosts
.login  .mail_aliases   .profile.shrc
webserver1# cd /a
webserver1# ls
lost+found
webserver1# cd lost+found/
webserver1# ls
#02557845   #07175061   #15169226   #15183754   #15198282   
#16387003   #16430779
#02558357   #07175573   #15169728   #15184256   #15198784   
#16387499   #16431275
#02558869   #07176085   #15169730   #15184258   #15198786   
#16387515   #16431291
#02559381   #07176597   #15169732   #15184260   #15198788   
#16388011   #16431787
#02559893   #07177109   #15169734   #15184262   #15198790   
#16388027   #16431803
#02560405   #07177621   #15169736   #15184264   #15198792   
#16388523   #16432299
#02561109   #07178133   #15169738   #15184266   #15198794   
#16388539   #16432315
#02561621   #07178645   #15170240   #15184768   #15199296   
#16389035   #16432811
#02562133   #07179157   #15170242   #15184770   #15199298   
#16389051   #16432827
#02562645   #07179349   #15170244   #15184772   #15199300   
#16389547   #16433323
#02563157   #07179861   #15170246   #15184774   #15199302   
#16389563   #1649
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#16390059   #16433835
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#16390075   #16433851
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#16392619   #16436395
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#16397947   #16441723
#07112981   #15158784   #15173312

Re: Dlink-g520 Wireless and WEP more

2004-10-26 Thread Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 17:38, scott renna wrote:
> ok, well this system has a 3com, xl0 holding an ip of
> 192.168.2.150
> Does this mean that I need to have each interface
> having an IP on a different subnet?
> maybe I could change the mask on the xl0 to
> 255.255.248.0 and it might work?
Nope, that won't help.

> I wanted to have the wireless card on the same subnet
> as the rest of the LAN and keep the wired card up and
> running just for testing before permanently migrating
> to this wireless card(i'm using encrypted protocols
> locally so wep weaknesses should not be an issue).
>
> is there a way to have both cards be on the same
> subnet and have the same subnet mask?
Nope.
If you would do that, FreeBSD wouldn't know on what interface it should send 
packets destined for a PC on that subnet. (That's why ifconfig refuses to set 
the ip address).

If you want to be able to switch between LAN and WLAN, you'll have to turn off 
one of the interfaces...
If you want to run over WLAN, type :
ifconfig xl0 down
ifconfig ath0 192.168.2.150 etc etc etc...

If you want to switch back to LAN, type :
ifconfig ath0 down
ifconfig xl0 up

You can assign the same ip address to multiple interfaces, but you can only 
have one of the "up" at a time.

good luck,
Daan

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2 Network Cards & 2 IP's?

2004-10-26 Thread Adam Seniuk
Hello;

 

I am wondering how to get 2 Different network cards to have 2 Different IP's
but I want to have both ips on the same ip block.

 

For example:

192.168.1.100 on NIC 1

192.168.1.101 on NIC 2

Gateway 192.168.1.1 

 

Not sure on how to set it up properly. I would appreciate any help or tips
people have on this subject. and yes I have googled for it but none have
this scenario :D

 

Sincerely,


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Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows

2004-10-26 Thread Micheal Patterson


- Original Message - 
From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Micheal Patterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 1:20 AM
Subject: RE: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows


>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Micheal Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 9:44 AM
> > To: Ted Mittelstaedt; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows
> >
> >
> > Honestly, what makes you think that Windows is more complex in it's
> > administration than a *Nix system?
>
> Well, the first thing that makes me think this is because the ISP I
> work at has an arm of the businesses that is purely Windows
> techs who companies pay to fix their Windows servers, and I get called
> in to help fix lots of messes there pretty regularly.  (even
> though I do not have a MCSE myself)
>
> I've seen the stuff with my own eyes.  It ain't pretty.
>
> If you think that administering a Windows server is so simple then
> answer the following test:
>
> How do you lock down an Exchange 5.5 server to prevent a spammer from
> using it as a relay.
>
> I know how to do it.  No, it does not involve grubbing around in the
> registry.  No it is not documented, either.  I know for a fact that
> it isn't because I was in the conference call
> where we had to do it, and the Microsoft support tech himself told us
> it wasn't documented.
>

Are you referring to reconfiguring the IMC with:

"Reroute incoming SMTP mail", then in Routing Restrictions,  selecting
"Hosts and Clients with these IP addresses" and leaving the data fields
blank?

If that's the method that you're talking about, it's only "non-documented"
within MS's help files. It's plastered all over the web. Do a search on
google for "MS exchange 5.5 open relay" and just look at the info that you
get. If that's the issue that you're discussing, someone in your admin
section just cost the company the price for the trouble ticket for no reason
because they didn't bother to look for it.

> > It's common knowledge that Windows is
> > "easier" to manage. That's one of it's selling points and it always has
> > been. "Windows is now easier than ever, just point and click". Tell me
how
> > many times have you heard someone say that about any *Nix OS currently
> > available?
> >
>
> Windows by itself is pretty useless as a server.  It only becomes useful
> when you start adding in all the other crap, like a mailserver (exchange)
> a terminal server, a backup software, etc.

People in the type of network that I'm in, only use Windows for applications
that require it's use. Telerad, Centricity, and various other medical
software that requires MSSQL. All other applications here on my network are
using FreeBSD from 4.9 to 5.3.7 or AIX.

> You have obviously never had to sort out a mess with Veritos ie: Seagate
> Backup on Windows.  Backup is so hairy under Windows servers that even
> Microsoft themselves is afraid or unable to release a backup program
> with the operating system that backs up open files.  And SQL server,
> Exchange, and any other serious server application ALWAYS has open
> files under a Windows server.

Oh, yes.. I've had my share of issues with Windows. Just as I've had with
every other OS that I've used. I also know how to use login restrictions to
force users out of the network so that the backups can occur to reduce the
amount of open file skips as well.

> > The human race as a whole, is always looking for something to make doing
> > something easier for them. That's what drives our desire to contstantly
> > design new technology.
> >
>
> Hate to wake you with the clue phone but WE don't design new technology.
> The people who design new technology are the companies that produce
> it.  And they have agendas OTHER than just making your life easier.
> Such as making money.  Why do you think that there's a new version of
> Microsoft Word every couple years?  Can you tell me with a straight
> face that each new version of Word has made it easier to type a
> typical business letter?

Clue phone? How about letting me smack you in the forhead with a clue bat.
You speak about companies having other agendas. Yes, that's true. Pray tell,
do answer the inevitable quesiton. How is it that companies, corporations
and other big business are able to make that profit?

Do they force their wares onto the unsuspecting public and force us to
purchase them?

Do they force you to use the aftershave you use to make you smell better to
the little woman?

Do they force upon you the car that you drive, the furniture in your home,
the home you live in, is that forced upon you by anyone? Wait for it, wait
for it. Clue bat time.

You, as an individual, chose to own / use those items. Just as everyone else
did. Your desire to make your life easier and more comfortable for yourself
and you

RE: waiting for a syslogd message

2004-10-26 Thread Valerian Galeru
uname -a
FreeBSD v 4.9-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE #0: Mon Oct
27 17:51:09 GMT 2003
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
 i386

I would like to make a sh script and I have the next
question: I don`t want the next command to be executed
until the kernel sends a syslogd message. For example,
I want make the script waiting for the message from
ifconfig after I change the MAC : ifconfig my_nc ether
mac. This command will send a message to syslogd (and
this => to console).



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Re: Serial console weirdness

2004-10-26 Thread Mark Cullen
Mark Cullen wrote:
Artem Kazakov wrote:
Mark Cullen wrote:

Ok, I am having a bit of trouble setting up a serial console login. The 
cable is attached to com1, heres my /etc/ttys

# The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc.
ttyd0   "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" dialup  on  secure
Now, my problem is that when I do a kill -HUP 1 nothing happens; Well, I 
am sure something happens, it certainly doesn't start getty on that 
serial port though! However(!) when I start getty manually on that port:

/usr/libexec/getty std.9600 ttyd0
It promptly goes into the background and on my other machine I get the 
login prompt and all is well (until I logout as getty isn't being 
respawned). I didn't see anything logged as to why it's not working.

I will mention that I yanked the (very very broken) graphics card out of 
that machine, so there's no ttyv's. Do I need to make the serial console 
my ... console/display for getty to start working again perhaps?

Any help would be much appreciated.
probably you need to change dialup with something (like vt100) sutable 
your enviroment


I have tried cons25, xterm and (now) vt100. It's not that...
# Serial terminals
# The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc.
ttyd0   "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" cons25  on  secure
ttyd1   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   dialup  off secure
ttyd2   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   dialup  off secure
ttyd3   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   dialup  off secure
# Dumb console
dcons   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   vt100   off secure
# Pseudo terminals
ttyp0   nonenetwork
/etc/ttys: 307 lines, 7539 characters
(root|bone)/home/mrboo# kill -HUP 1
(root|bone)/home/mrboo# ps ax | grep getty
21134  p0  R+ 0:00.02 grep getty
(root|bone)/home/mrboo#
Note: I have no getty processes as there's no graphics card, so I am 
guessing if it was working right I would start to see a:

/usr/libexec/getty std.115200 ttyd0
It appears in the process list (and works) when I run the above manually!
I'll reply to myself here.
I just now created /boot.config with -h, rebooted, and all is well. With 
the added bonus of it being a serial console at the boot loader part. I 
am impressed :)

Can't seem to get it to work with anything other than 9600 (even though 
the process list shows std.115200), but it gives me some sort of of 
display to work with during the boot process atleast :)

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Re: Opteron problem after recompile is "ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp"

2004-10-26 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 07:51:07AM -0700, Peter G wrote:
> Generic amd64 kernel boots fine
> 
> after recompile of 5.2.1 amd64 version on Opteron 146
> single proc machine (2GHz)
> 
> It doesn't mount the root file system
> 
> the error is:
> 
> ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp
> 
> The Geom list is blank
> 
> 
> any suggestions?

You removed too much from your kernel config file relative to GENERIC?

Kris


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Re: FreeBSD 5.3BETA7 and Disk Woes!!

2004-10-26 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 12:38:38PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote:
> 
> Hello experts,
> 
> [If I haven't provided any info, please let me know what it is and I
> will]

We need exact error messages, from the main console and on the other
vtys (press Alt+F2, etc).

Kris


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Re: lib/pam problems...

2004-10-26 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 12:38:50AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 12:26:23AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> 
> > > > Is your xdm linked to stale (FreeBSD 4.x) libraries?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > >   no, already checked thatt.  xfree86 is gone; only xorg binaries
> > >   are there.  also,i moved away pam.conf; it has the same info as
> > >   pam.d, but just to see...
> > 
> > Can you humour me and run a ldd on the xdm binary?
> > 
>   Hm, ahhh, maybe...  (!)  sure...  
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/etc# ldd `which xdm`
> /usr/X11R6/bin/xdm:
> libXpm.so.4 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4 (0x2808c000)
> libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x2809a000)
> libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x280af000)
> libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x280f9000)
> libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x28102000)
> libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x28119000)
> libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x28127000)
> libXau.so.0 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXau.so.0 (0x281e5000)
> libXdmcp.so.0 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXdmcp.so.0 (0x281e8000)
> libpam.so.1 => /usr/lib/libpam.so.1 (0x281ec000)
> libcrypt.so.2 => /lib/libcrypt.so.2 (0x281f6000)
> libXinerama.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXinerama.so.1 (0x2820e000)
> libutil.so.3 => /usr/lib/libutil.so.3 (0x28211000)
> libxpg4.so.3 => /usr/lib/libxpg4.so.3 (0x2821a000)
> libc.so.4 => /usr/lib/libc.so.4 (0x2821c000)
  ^

Thought so..that's a 4.x binary.  You can't mix 4.x binaries and 5.x
libraries, which is why you're getting the PAM failure from dlopen().
Rebuild it.

Kris

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Dmesg output confusion/printer problems

2004-10-26 Thread MrBluez
Sorry to be impatient but I'm really curious about this stuff.  I'm trying
to get my printer (HP LaserJet 4L) to function in Free BSD 5.2.1.  I'm
following the handbook's instructions verbatim because I can't reliably get
the printer to print (even plain text).  The handbook isn't appears to be
outdated & is unclear about how to troubleshoot at best.  But that's another
point, :-).  

 

Per section 9.3.1.2.1 Kernel Configuration in the handbook, I ran a dmesg
command & received the doubled response.  The command & responses are listed
below. 

 

% grep ppc2 /var/run/dmesg.boot

 

ppc2 port 0x778-0x77b,0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0

ppc2: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode

ppbus2:  on ppc2

 

ppc2 port 0x778-0x77b,0x378-0x37f irq 7 on acpi0

ppc2: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode

ppbus2:  on ppc2

 

Question 1) Why am I getting a doubled response with the dmesg query & if it
isn't normal behavior for "dmesg" to double the reply, how do I make it go
away?  

Question 2) Assuming that I get question 1 resolved, how do I get on the
right track to figure out what's up with the printing issue?  I don't want
to install CUPS or any other spooler program until I have a handle on what's
happening with the lpd.  

 

 

 

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init - inittab , how to monitor process like on linux ?

2004-10-26 Thread ADNET Ghislain
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 04:45:13 +0200, ADNET Ghislain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,
  The init process can watch daemon and respawn died ones on linux with
simple configuration. I tried to reproduce this in my FreeBSD server. I
know this can be done also as the man page says:
 Init can also be used to keep arbitrary daemons running, automatically
 restarting them if they die.  In this case, the first field in the
 ttys(5) file must not reference the path to a configured device
node and
 will be passed to the daemon as the final argument on its command line.
 This is similar to the facility offered in the AT&T System V UNIX
 /etc/inittab.
but no matter how i tweak the ttys file  i cannot make it to work.
Does any FreeeBSD guru can help me make the step from linux complete as
i cannot find help about this anywhere (the freeBSD admin book do not
speak of it and google is silent about freeBSD specific ttys "inittab
like" settings).
A simple exemple will do the trick, basicaly i need this to keep spamd,
clamd running (with better and safer way  than using a while 1 loop on
the shell).
Best regards,
Ghislain.
Best to post this to freebsd-questions.
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Scrub Vendor

2004-10-26 Thread Rick
T.W.I.M.C.

If I have sent this by mistake please disregard.  I am looking to find a
Medical Scrub Uniform vendor, if you can help please contact me.

Thanks,
Rick Navarro
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Re: Serial console weirdness

2004-10-26 Thread Mark Cullen
Artem Kazakov wrote:
Mark Cullen wrote:
Ok, I am having a bit of trouble setting up a serial console login. The 
cable is attached to com1, heres my /etc/ttys

# The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc.
ttyd0   "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" dialup  on  secure
Now, my problem is that when I do a kill -HUP 1 nothing happens; Well, I 
am sure something happens, it certainly doesn't start getty on that 
serial port though! However(!) when I start getty manually on that port:

/usr/libexec/getty std.9600 ttyd0
It promptly goes into the background and on my other machine I get the 
login prompt and all is well (until I logout as getty isn't being 
respawned). I didn't see anything logged as to why it's not working.

I will mention that I yanked the (very very broken) graphics card out of 
that machine, so there's no ttyv's. Do I need to make the serial console 
my ... console/display for getty to start working again perhaps?

Any help would be much appreciated.
probably you need to change dialup with something (like vt100) sutable 
your enviroment

I have tried cons25, xterm and (now) vt100. It's not that...
# Serial terminals
# The 'dialup' keyword identifies dialin lines to login, fingerd etc.
ttyd0   "/usr/libexec/getty std.115200" cons25  on  secure
ttyd1   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   dialup  off secure
ttyd2   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   dialup  off secure
ttyd3   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   dialup  off secure
# Dumb console
dcons   "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600"   vt100   off secure
# Pseudo terminals
ttyp0   nonenetwork
/etc/ttys: 307 lines, 7539 characters
(root|bone)/home/mrboo# kill -HUP 1
(root|bone)/home/mrboo# ps ax | grep getty
21134  p0  R+ 0:00.02 grep getty
(root|bone)/home/mrboo#
Note: I have no getty processes as there's no graphics card, so I am 
guessing if it was working right I would start to see a:

/usr/libexec/getty std.115200 ttyd0
It appears in the process list (and works) when I run the above manually!
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Re: Dlink-g520 Wireless and WEP more

2004-10-26 Thread scott renna
ok, well this system has a 3com, xl0 holding an ip of
192.168.2.150
Does this mean that I need to have each interface
having an IP on a different subnet?
maybe I could change the mask on the xl0 to
255.255.248.0 and it might work? 

I wanted to have the wireless card on the same subnet
as the rest of the LAN and keep the wired card up and
running just for testing before permanently migrating
to this wireless card(i'm using encrypted protocols
locally so wep weaknesses should not be an issue).  

is there a way to have both cards be on the same
subnet and have the same subnet mask?
--- "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Tuesday 26 October 2004 15:59, you wrote:
> > Here's what I got:
> >
> > This is my ifconfig for this device ath0 before
> > executing a new ifconfig command:
> >
> > pluto# ifconfig ath0
> >
> > ath0:
> > flags=8843
> mtu
> > 1500
> > inet6 fe80::20f:3dff:fea9:3645%ath0
> prefixlen
> > 64 scopeid 0x2
> > ether 00:0f:3d:a9:36:45
> > media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet
> > autoselect (DS/11Mbps)
> > status: associated
> > ssid  1:
> > channel 5 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF
> > powersavesleep 100
> > wepmode MIXED weptxkey 1
> > wepkey 1:40-bit
> >
> > See it says it's associated and has picked up a
> > channel, but no IP!
> >
> > pluto# ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.2.180 netmask
> > 255.255.255.0 ssid  wepmode on weptxkey
> > 1:0x123456789
> > ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists
> 
> ifconfig says this if you already have another
> interface with an ip-address in 
> the same range. I think you have another interface
> on your system with an 
> 192.168.2.X ip address. Remove the address from the
> other interface and try 
> again.
> 
> grtz,
> Daan
> 
> 




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Unable to mount ufs drive after changing drive order

2004-10-26 Thread Ryan Crumley
I have a FreeBSD 4.9 machine (i386) with 3 hard drives in it. I
installed a 4th hard drive and booted the system however this changed
the drive numbers (expected since I rearranged their connection order)
and fstab refered to the wrong drives so the only drive that was able
to be mounted was the root drive. [see the end of the message for
dmesg output, fdisk output, and fstab info]

I looked at my dmesg output and figured out the mapping between the
old drive numbers and the new numbers and tried issueing the command:

mount -t ufs /dev/ad5s1c /mnt 

(this drive used to be ad6 but is now ad5, fstab reads /dev/ad6s1c)

and instead of mounting the hard drive on /mnt I get the following error:

mount: /dev/ad5s1c: Device not configured

So I thought maybe I am confused and this drive is not ad5, maybe its
ad6 or ad7... So I tried the same mount command and got:

mount: /dev/ad6s1c: Operation not permitted
mount: /dev/ad7s1c: Operation not permitted

(Either ad5 or ad6 is blank, it is hard for me to tell for sure since
they are both the same model of hard drive however I am pretty sure
its ad6 that is blank. ad5 and ad7 were both mountable before
installing the new hard drive).

Next I tried:

cd /dev
rm ad5* ad6* ad7*
sh MAKEDEV ad5 ad6 ad7

and then tried mounting the drives as described above with the same results. 

At this point I am not sure what to do. Can someone point me in the
right direction?


Here is my hardware configuration:
Computer:
k6-3 400mghz
296mb of ram
HighPoint HPT370 Raid Controller (motherboard doesn't support ata100
drives so I have a pci card that all the drives plug into)

ide connection:
all drives are set to cable select and connected to the raid
controller card via two cables (so on each channel there is a master
and a slave).

here is some output from dmesg:

atapci1:  port 0xb800-0xb8ff,0xb400-0xb403,0
xb000-0xb007,0xac00-0xac03,0xa800-0xa807 irq 10 at device 9.0 on pci0
ata2: at 0xa800 on atapci1
ata3: at 0xb000 on atapci1
[...]
ad4: 156334MB  [317632/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA100
ad5: 190782MB  [387621/16/63] at ata2-slave UDMA100
ad6: 190782MB  [387621/16/63] at ata3-master UDMA100
ad7: 76319MB  [155061/16/63] at ata3-slave UDMA100
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad4s2a

ad4 = root hard drive
ad5 = old ad6
ad6 = blank hard drive
ad7 = old ad5

It is possible that I have ad5 and ad6 confused since they are the
same model of drive however I am pretty sure ad6 is the blank one.

Now for some fdisk output:
~$ fdisk /dev/ad5
*** Working on device /dev/ad5 ***
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=387621 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)

Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=387621 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)

fdisk: invalid fdisk partition table found
Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:

The data for partition 2 is:

The data for partition 3 is:

The data for partition 4 is:
sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
start 63, size 390721905 (190782 Meg), flag 80 (active)
beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
end: cyl 548/ head 15/ sector 63


~$ fdisk /dev/ad6
*** Working on device /dev/ad6 ***
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=387621 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)

Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=387621 heads=16 sectors/track=63 (1008 blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
start 63, size 390721905 (190782 Meg), flag 80 (active)
beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
end: cyl 548/ head 15/ sector 63
The data for partition 2 is:

The data for partition 3 is:

The data for partition 4 is:



~$ fdisk /dev/ad7
*** Working on device /dev/ad7 ***
parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are:
cylinders=165398 heads=15 sectors/track=63 (945 blks/cyl)

Figures below won't work with BIOS for partitions not in cyl 1
parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are:
cylinders=165398 heads=15 sectors/track=63 (945 blks/cyl)

Media sector size is 512
Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1
Information from DOS bootblock is:
The data for partition 1 is:
sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)
start 63, size 156301047 (76318 Meg), flag 80 (active)
beg: cyl 0/ head 1/ sector 1;
end: cyl 533/ head 14/ sector 63
The data for partition 2 is:

The data for partition 3 is:

The data for partition 4 is:


~$ cat /etc/fstab
# See the fstab(5) manual page for important information on automatic mounts
# of network filesystems before modifying this file.
#
# DeviceMountpoint  FStype  Options DumpPass#
/dev/ad4s1b  

Re: Dlink-g520 Wireless and WEP more

2004-10-26 Thread Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]
On Tuesday 26 October 2004 15:59, you wrote:
> Here's what I got:
>
> This is my ifconfig for this device ath0 before
> executing a new ifconfig command:
>
> pluto# ifconfig ath0
>
> ath0:
> flags=8843 mtu
> 1500
> inet6 fe80::20f:3dff:fea9:3645%ath0 prefixlen
> 64 scopeid 0x2
> ether 00:0f:3d:a9:36:45
> media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet
> autoselect (DS/11Mbps)
> status: associated
> ssid  1:
> channel 5 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF
> powersavesleep 100
> wepmode MIXED weptxkey 1
> wepkey 1:40-bit
>
> See it says it's associated and has picked up a
> channel, but no IP!
>
> pluto# ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.2.180 netmask
> 255.255.255.0 ssid  wepmode on weptxkey
> 1:0x123456789
> ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists

ifconfig says this if you already have another interface with an ip-address in 
the same range. I think you have another interface on your system with an 
192.168.2.X ip address. Remove the address from the other interface and try 
again.

grtz,
Daan

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Re: [How To] Setting up a http server

2004-10-26 Thread Danny
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 09:09:53 -0600, Clay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Cool thanks ill give those links a look.

Ignore this link, because it focuses on Linux:
http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/apache/2000/02/24/installing_apache.html

Sorry about that.

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RE: [How To] Setting up a http server

2004-10-26 Thread Clay
Cool thanks ill give those links a look.

Clay

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Subject: Re: [How To] Setting up a http server

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:40:07 -0600, Clay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to know if there are any good How To's out there,
> on setting up a FreeBSD 4.10 server to act as a web server.

Start here:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-apache.htm
l

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/apache/2000/02/24/installing_apache.html

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RE: 10-13" laptop. Where to buy?

2004-10-26 Thread Kevin Glick

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Johnson
> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 7:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: 10-13" laptop. Where to buy?
> 
> Hi,
>   I'm looking for a x86 laptop with a 10 to 13" screen but its very
> hard
> to find one under 14"
> anyone have any ideas of where to look?
> 
> Michael
Check out Fujitsu's P-series notebooks.  10.2" screen with a max resolution
of 1280x768.  I've got a 2040 with 5.2.1 running on it.  XFree86 is a
no-brainer to setup.  The new P7000/P7000D are pretty well loaded, compact
and light, even with the long-life battery.

http://webshop.fujitsupc.com/fpc/Ecommerce/buildseriesbean.do?series=P7

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Re: perl vs php round 1

2004-10-26 Thread Benjamin Walkenhorst
Gert Cuykens wrote:
Can you do as much with perl as you can do with php ?
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I should think so.
In fact, I am pretty sure you can do far more with Perl than with PHP...
There are so many modules for perl, I think there's hardly anything short of
writing a compiler or operating system that cannot be done in perl (and 
possibly even that)...

Or are you referring to web development specifically? In that regard, I 
think the two are pretty
close in terms of what they allow you to do.
PHP has a strong plus since it's embeddable in HTML, and a strong minus, 
because I did not
get a debugger to work with it...
I for one prefer Perl a lot, since it's really an all-round language 
whereas PHP was designed with
web development in mind; true, nowadays you can also write GUIs in PHP, 
but it wasn't meant to do
that...

However, I think - if you are in fact talking about web development - 
Perl vs. PHP is more a matter of taste
(or other circumstances) than a technical one.

Kind regards,
Benjamin
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Re: perl vs php round 1

2004-10-26 Thread Scott Gerhardt

i want to learn something that is capable to run applications on the
web but is totally separated from the html meaning i HATE doing this
If using PHP then give Smarty a try:
http://smarty.php.net/rightforme.php
Thanks,
--
Scott A. Gerhardt, P.Geo.
Gerhardt Information Technologies
On Oct 26, 2004, at 12:02 AM, Gert Cuykens wrote:
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Opteron problem after recompile is "ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp"

2004-10-26 Thread Peter G
Generic amd64 kernel boots fine

after recompile of 5.2.1 amd64 version on Opteron 146
single proc machine (2GHz)

It doesn't mount the root file system

the error is:

ffs_mountroot: can't find rootvp

The Geom list is blank


any suggestions?

PLS also email your responses to PG_AT_ETH1.com
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Re: flash

2004-10-26 Thread Jim Trigg
On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 03:49:48AM -0700, Loren M. Lang wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 26, 2004 at 08:19:53AM +0200, Gert Cuykens wrote:
> > goddammit :)
> > 
> > 7rxI# make install
> > ===>  flashpluginwrapper-0.20021113 is only for i386, and you are
> > running amd64.
> 
> Isn't amd64 supposed to be fully compatible with i386?  Maybe the port
> just doesn't reconize that fact.  The only other thing might be if
> firefox is compiled as amd64, u might need to recompile it as i386 but
> don't take my word for it.

Yes and no.  A single program (for example, mozilla plus plugins) must
be entirely either native AMD64 or ix86, not mixed.  So you'd need a
mozilla (and any needed shared libraries) built for ix86.

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Re: [How To] Setting up a http server

2004-10-26 Thread Danny
On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:40:07 -0600, Clay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to know if there are any good How To's out there,
> on setting up a FreeBSD 4.10 server to act as a web server.

Start here:

http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/network-apache.html

http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/apache/2000/02/24/installing_apache.html

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RE: [How To] Setting up a http server

2004-10-26 Thread Olaf Stein
After installing apache and needed modules with ports the configuration is
not too much different than on a linux or *nix system (main difference is
the location off the config files)

Unfortunately I do not know any good howto`s that cover every single step or
topic
I guess you will need to find several ones

olaf


>I would like to know if there are any good How To's out there,
>on setting up a FreeBSD 4.10 server to act as a web server. I am new to
>FreeBSD but if the steps are for the most part clear I can get it.
>Something
>that goes from the installation of FreeBSD and how to set it up properly to
>how to download and configure things if using the command line and not
>X-Windows or similar.

 

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[How To] Setting up a http server

2004-10-26 Thread Clay
Hi,

 

I would like to know if there are any good How To's out there,
on setting up a FreeBSD 4.10 server to act as a web server. I am new to
FreeBSD but if the steps are for the most part clear I can get it. Something
that goes from the installation of FreeBSD and how to set it up properly to
how to download and configure things if using the command line and not
X-Windows or similar.

 

Clay

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Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows

2004-10-26 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2004-10-26 07:42, "Butterworth, Thaddaeus (UI Exploratory)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> I work in a testing environment where I have set up both Windows and
> *nix type servers. The first time I set up a server it was Exchange 2003
> on Windows Server 2003. I was able to figure out how to securely set it
> up within two hours. On the other hand, setting up ldap on FreeBSD took
> me two days. All of these needed to connect to various computing
> platforms, including the embedded systems (using LYNX) that I was
> testing. I've worked with Windows, *nix, and Mac OS. I've found Mac to
> be the easiest to work with, Windows second easiest, and the *nix take
> far more skill than the other two combined. Part of the issue that you
> are facing from your description of the complications with Windows,
> comes from trying to make windows do what windows was not designed to
> do.

> I don't care what Bill Gates says, none of the windows server environments
> were ever designed with anything more than simple, small networks in
> mind. It's part of the culture of MS. They started out with personal
> computing systems, and then decided that they would get into the server
> market. They inherently approach all software from a personal computing
> standpoint. That's why there are so many "undocumented" procedures to make
> things work the way that they are supposed to.

Nonsense, if you ask me.  For many reasons:

a. Windows doesn't work nicely even for small networks most of the time.

It's not the size of the network that matters.  It's the nature of the
network.  Homogeneous, Windows-only networks will usually work somehow;
not optimally, mind you, but they can be coerced into working.
Heterogeneous networking environments, with many different types and
versions of operating systems, are not so easy to use from Windows.

b. The small-network culture has nothing to do with documentation.

Undocumented stuff is undocumented because Microsoft either didn't have the
time to document them all (rushing a new release out to gather a few more
billion dollars) or -- more importantly -- they don't _want_ them
documented, to have an edge over the rest of the software developers.

> It's not really a matter of what is better for everybody, but what is
> better for the context that you are working under. I've recommended both
> Windows and *nix solutions to people. It just depends on who I am talking
> to. It's the same thing with this subject. I cannot and will not
> emphatically state that one OS is better than the other. I can tell you
> which I prefer, but you have to look at the needs of the individual or
> company and try to determine the right solution from there. If you are
> having to mess around with undocumented procedures and do all this extra
> junk just to secure your windows servers, then I would say you need to
> take a serious look at changing your server OS.

I mostly agree.  Then, one day, eventually and also pretty unavoidably,
freedom suddenly matters.

That's about the same time that Windows starts to feel uncomfortable, with
all its undocumented "lock-in" stuff whose only purpose is not to make
computing easier but to make more money for Microsoft.  If it so happens
that some part of the every day experience of the average user is also made
easier, it's a happy coincidence in the Microsoft world; not the Ultimate
Goal(TM), but not unwelcome either ;-)

But this thread reminds me of far too many threads that I've seen this
topic discussed to death and beyond, some of them on this list too.  So
I'll stop writing.



- Giorgos

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Re: Dlink-g520 Wireless and WEP more

2004-10-26 Thread scott renna
Here's what I got:

This is my ifconfig for this device ath0 before
executing a new ifconfig command:

pluto# ifconfig ath0

ath0:
flags=8843 mtu
1500
inet6 fe80::20f:3dff:fea9:3645%ath0 prefixlen
64 scopeid 0x2 
ether 00:0f:3d:a9:36:45
media: IEEE 802.11 Wireless Ethernet
autoselect (DS/11Mbps)
status: associated
ssid  1:
channel 5 authmode OPEN powersavemode OFF
powersavesleep 100
wepmode MIXED weptxkey 1
wepkey 1:40-bit

See it says it's associated and has picked up a
channel, but no IP!  

pluto# ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.2.180 netmask
255.255.255.0 ssid  wepmode on weptxkey
1:0x123456789
ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFADDR): File exists

So I gave that command a shot and still looks like an
issue.  very strange.  I've turned the ath0 interface
up and back down again several times, any thoughts on
why this card can't pull an IP?

Note:  I'm running MAC Address control on the Wireless
router I'm using and ath0 is in there and allowed. 
Also, I've set the router to use 40 bit WEP encryption
and open authentication.  I'm not sure this card does
128 bit or if FreeBSD does.  any where else I might
check for problems?

--- "Daan Vreeken [PA4DAN]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> On Tuesday 26 October 2004 03:47, scott renna wrote:
> > So I am still having a go at getting this Dlink
> card
> > to work here's what i got:
> >
> > pluto# ifconfig ath0 inet 192.168.2.180 netmask
> > 255.255.255.0 ssid  wepmode on authmode open
> > wepkey 0x1234567890
> > ifconfig: SIOCS80211: Invalid argument
> 
> Try changing : wepkey 0x1234567890 into :
> weptxkey 1 wepkey 1:0x1234567890
> 
> Which tells the device to use key 1, and then
> specifies key 1.
> You need to start the argument of "wepkey" with the
> key number, it's a bit 
> confusing.
> 
> > pluto# ifconfig ath0 remove
> > ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCDIFADDR): Can't assign
> requested
> > address
> >
> > I can't remove the interface nor configure it.
> "remove" isn't a valid option to ifconfig. If you
> want to remove the 
> ip-address you have assigned to ath0, try :
> ifconfig ath0 delete 192.168.2.180
> or
> ifconfig ath0 delete
> (to delete all addresses assigned to ath0)
> 
> > any ideas?
> Try the above, if something fails, let me (and the
> list) know.
> 
> A last tip :
> You can turn on/off the wireless card by entering :
> ifconfig ath0 down
> ifconfig ath0 up
> 
> grtz,
> Daan
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Re: duplicate ports

2004-10-26 Thread Brian Bobowski
Petre Bandac wrote:
do I really need both the old version of an port and the new one ?
 

The specifics of perl have been addressed, but it's worth noting that 
sometimes, you do. A good example is tk; it's perfectly possible to have 
multiple versions of it installed because they're installed to different 
paths and have different names in /usr/bin, and sometimes necessary, 
because programs that run under one version(say, requires wish8.3) might 
not work under a later version(wish8.4). If the program isn't 
specifically referring to a version, it might need to be told which 
version to use; and in this case, i.e. if a program starts with #! 
/usr/bin/wish, the versionless command will just advise you to use one 
with a version.

Generally, if an interpreter has two versions in the /same/ ports tree, 
there's a reason for it. You just might not have any software installed 
that requires the different versions. Software besides interpreters 
might have different versions in there for a different reason, and they 
might not get along, which you'll be told if you try to install 
both(either directly or as the result of installing something else).

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Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows

2004-10-26 Thread Butterworth, Thaddaeus (UI Exploratory)
I work in a testing environment where I have set up both Windows and
*nix type servers. The first time I set up a server it was Exchange 2003
on Windows Server 2003. I was able to figure out how to securely set it
up within two hours. On the other hand, setting up ldap on FreeBSD took
me two days. All of these needed to connect to various computing
platforms, including the embedded systems (using LYNX) that I was
testing. I've worked with Windows, *nix, and Mac OS. I've found Mac to
be the easiest to work with, Windows second easiest, and the *nix take
far more skill than the other two combined. Part of the issue that you
are facing from your description of the complications with Windows,
comes from trying to make windows do what windows was not designed to
do. I don't care what Bill Gates says, none of the windows server
environments were ever designed with anything more than simple, small
networks in mind. It's part of the culture of MS. They started out with
personal computing systems, and then decided that they would get into
the server market. They inherently approach all software from a personal
computing standpoint. That's why there are so many "undocumented"
procedures to make things work the way that they are supposed to. On the
other hand, *nix was designed for larger systems and networking, that's
why it has been so much harder for the average person to get into. It's
not really a matter of what is better for everybody, but what is better
for the context that you are working under. I've recommended both
Windows and *nix solutions to people. It just depends on who I am
talking to. It's the same thing with this subject. I cannot and will not
emphatically state that one OS is better than the other. I can tell you
which I prefer, but you have to look at the needs of the individual or
company and try to determine the right solution from there. If you are
having to mess around with undocumented procedures and do all this extra
junk just to secure your windows servers, then I would say you need to
take a serious look at changing your server OS. 

For what it's worth, there's my .02.

 

Thad Butterworth

 

 

 

 

>Windows WAS simpler than UNIX.  No longer.  You need to get out into

>the field again, you have been sitting behind a desk managing things

>for too long.  I'd love to see you setup a Active Directory network of

>any size that contains mixed Windows versions.  You would lose a lot of

>these misguided preconceptions.

 

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Re: Serious investigations into UNIX and Windows

2004-10-26 Thread terry tyson
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 23:20:08 -0700, Ted Mittelstaedt
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 

PMFJI, (especially since I'm a newbie) but I think I understand at
least some of what Ted is saying here. I set up a home firewall and
later had a hardware failure. I replaced the box and decided to use
Mandrake Linux for the firewall because I thought it would be easier
to set up. It was easier to set up initially with all the pointy
clicky stuff. Then a friend (who knows much more than I do) sniffed
the box and warned me that I had holes galore. As I tried to fix the
problem it became more difficult than when I was using BSD. I finally
installed OpenBSD for the firewall (still use FreeBSD for everything
else) and even tho there is a lot to learn I can make it do what I
want. I have learned that just because something looks good on the
surface, that doesn't mean that it's better.
-- 
Terry
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