RE: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Durham > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 11:04 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup? > > > I guess I would have to say that the niche I am talking about > is supporting > applications of a corporate/business nature on FreeBSD. > One big problem with this is that still, the majority of software business apps are commercial packages, and the vendors of those packages release their apps for platforms that they consider to help them sell their software. The Oracle story is a good example. Back in 1999-2000, Oracle actually completed a port of Oracle to FreeBSD. But they never released it, deciding that there was not enough market for it. Later they released it for Linux, but still, even today, many companies that sell Oracle-related software still don't have Linux ports. Naturally, a lot of software that isn't really a corporate business application (like a web server) is used by business and by corporations. But that is already covered plenty elsewhere. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?
> -Original Message- > From: Jim Durham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:42 AM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt > Subject: Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup? > > > On Saturday 15 January 2005 03:05 pm, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > > > Have you seen my book and website? > > > > http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > > It is out of print now but still available on Amazon. > > > > I have the book and I contributed some stuff to you a few > years ago 8-) . > Thanks! Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Security for webserver behind router?
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Thanos Tsouanas > Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 11:46 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Security for webserver behind router? > > > Just how much secure do you want to be? You can run apache > chrooted in its directory. That basically means, that if > apache is installed at /var/www/ , you can set it so that it > isn't aware of anything that's not under /var/www/ > > So, even if a security hole is found on apache, and someone does > manage to break in, they won't be able to do much to the system, > nor gain information about it, but will only be able to deal > with /var/www/* ... > Not true. Naturally this is more of an academic discussion since the vast majority of cracks are perpetuated against Windows. If they get access to the CGI directory they can launch attacks against the loopback address 127.0.0.1 and thus have access to all services on the server, including the ones that are behind the firewall. They can also attack other hosts on the same subnet and compromise those then head back to the apache box. They can fill the disk up and if /var/tmp is on there then things might stop working. And of course, if the server isn't configured all that well they might find a script that some cronjob is executing, that is located down in the chrooted directory and install their stuff there. > If security is all that matters, you might want to have a look > at OpenBSD's approach, which runs a modified apache version, > chrooted by default. > OpenBSD's approach to security is designed to allow Theo de Raadt to run around and lecture everyone else about how crappy their security is. Out of the box an OpenBSD server is pretty useless. Secure but useless. To get it to do anything you have to start turning on things, (like the webserver, etc.) and it's those things that get broken into. It's like when Microsoft ran around claiming that Windows NT 3.51 was "C4" security compliant (Air Force manual 33-270) everyone was really impressed but what Microsoft didn't tell you is that NT only met C4 security when it didn't have a network adapter installed!!! > P.S. Running apache chrooted is a great idea, and that's how my > httpd is running, but it can be a PITA if you try to > install it without understainding how it works. > I'm sure you feel more secure running it like that, if it makes you happy, go for it. Me, I'm not going to be shutting down my DMZ any time soon. Ted ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Security for webserver behind router?
On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 12:27:01AM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > Just how much secure do you want to be? You can run apache > > chrooted in its directory. That basically means, that if > > apache is installed at /var/www/ , you can set it so that it > > isn't aware of anything that's not under /var/www/ > > > > So, even if a security hole is found on apache, and someone does > > manage to break in, they won't be able to do much to the system, > > nor gain information about it, but will only be able to deal > > with /var/www/* ... > > Not true. Naturally this is more of an academic discussion since > the vast majority of cracks are perpetuated against Windows. > > If they get access to the CGI directory they can launch attacks > against the loopback address 127.0.0.1 and thus have access to > all services on the server, including the ones that are behind > the firewall. They can also attack other hosts on the same subnet > and compromise those then head back to the apache box. Have you actually done such a thing with obsd? Please let me know how you did it, and let it not include a httpd -u flag on the apache, nor things like chmod -R 777 / ;) > They can fill the disk up and if /var/tmp is on there then > things might stop working. Of course /var/tmp is not in /var/www... > And of course, if the server isn't configured all that well they > might find a script that some cronjob is executing, that is > located down in the chrooted directory and install their stuff > there. Ok, so you put scripts under /var/www/ for use with cronjob.. is this stupid or what? > > If security is all that matters, you might want to have a look > > at OpenBSD's approach, which runs a modified apache version, > > chrooted by default. > > OpenBSD's approach to security is designed to allow Theo de Raadt > to run around and lecture everyone else about how crappy their > security is. Out of the box an OpenBSD server is pretty useless. > Secure but useless. To get it to do anything you have to start > turning on things, (like the webserver, etc.) and it's those > things that get broken into. You obviously never used it. But the point is not to talk about obsd on a fbsd list, is it? The guy needs suggestions, and i gave him the best i could think of. See the strength points of each os, don't just act childish defending your fave. We would have the same discussion a year ago if i had suggested to guy asking for firewalls to use pf. Of course, now pf is in freebsd so you would accept it as good. > It's like when Microsoft ran around claiming that Windows NT 3.51 > was "C4" security compliant (Air Force manual 33-270) everyone > was really impressed but what Microsoft didn't tell you is that > NT only met C4 security when it didn't have a network adapter > installed!!! Yes you are right. It's like that. You are funny. > > P.S. Running apache chrooted is a great idea, and that's how my > > httpd is running, but it can be a PITA if you try to > > install it without understainding how it works. > > I'm sure you feel more secure running it like that, if it makes > you happy, go for it. Me, I'm not going to be shutting down > my DMZ any time soon. Sure, if it makes you happy don't use it. Who cares. P.S. No point of this being in the list, so if you want a reply on this thread mail me personally. -- Thanos Tsouanas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> .: Sians http://thanos.sians.org/ .: http://www.sians.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:26:49 -0500 daniel quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On January 19, 2005 03:06 pm, Anthony Atkielski wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> >> Fac> I think the "junky old PC" market is just what the current FreeBSD >> "team" Fac> is targeting. >> >> At least someone is thinking of it. There are a lot of PCs out there >> that are still in perfect working order, but are too slow to run the >> hugely bloated desktop operating systems (and the "server" versions >> thereof) that are popular today. Efficient operating systems like UNIX >> can give these machines new life and purpose and save tremendous >> resources in the process. >> >> Indeed, someone in the Third World without the means to buy a new PC and >> an expensive Windows license could find a junk PC and install FreeBSD on >> it for nothing, and be up and running in no time. While UNIX doesn't >> have the advantages of Windows on the desktop, you can't beat the price, >> and it'll run on anything. > >not to mention the huge environmental implications of producing newer hardware >every year to support said bloated hardware. if the same job can be done >with a 10 year old box, i'm glad freebsd is here to help me do it. > The recent discussion in this thread causes me to wonder whether FreeBSD's performance on older, slower equipment could be a contributing factor to why hardware vendors like Dell and ATI are willing to provide only limited support for LINUX and none at all for FreeBSD. After all, if FreeBSD lets a Pentium II w/MMX handle, for example, a moderately loaded web site or large network firewall or some other reasonable use and thereby obviating many purchases of hardware upgrades, why would they want to encourage its use? Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ** ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 01:09:10 +0100 Matthias Buelow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Anthony Atkielski wrote: > >> Indeed, someone in the Third World without the means to buy a new PC and >> an expensive Windows license could find a junk PC and install FreeBSD on > >And where do you think would they "find" this "junk PC"? >Don't you think that's a bit condescending? >Like, "let's give those negroes our old shoes"? And so your preference would be that the machines should go to a landfill rather than to someone who can't afford a computer at all? > >They can perfectly well buy new machines at local retailers (there are >some in bigger cities) for a fraction of the money that it would take >you to ship'em your old rustbucket. Why don't you send some money instead? > You sound awfully willing to spend other people's money. Perhaps you should ask them to buy you some texts on economics. Scott Bennett, Comm. ASMELG, CFIAG ** * Internet: bennett at cs.niu.edu * ** * "A well regulated and disciplined militia, is at all times a good * * objection to the introduction of that bane of all free governments * * -- a standing army." * *-- Gov. John Hancock, New York Journal, 28 January 1790 * ** ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
On 2005-01-20 04:30, Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Giorgos Keramidas writes: >> I've seen Windows machines "lose" CD-ROM or floppy drives, on >> perfectly working systems. You may find that booting the >> installation CD-ROM of some FreeBSD version locates the floppy >> drive just fine. > > The problem is external to Windows. The machine won't even boot > off a diskette. I see. I hadn't realized that, until I read the entire thread. > The floppy drive makes the usual noises as the BIOS goes through its > paces, but then the BIOS says that the diskette isn't there. It's > frustrating. The machine is so old and has been so reliable that I > don't remember much about configuring the BIOS, and I have no idea > where the documentation is now. It _seems_ like the diskette drive > may have a problem, but I'm not sure. This is likely too. Floppies have mechanical moving parts that are more prone to failure than other pieces of hardware. >> Your best choise may be to install by physically moving the disk to >> an other system. Then you can return the disk to the Vectra system >> and let it boot. > > No other systems available currently, alas. And this machine has > SCSI drives; the other machines have cheaper IDE or SATA drives. Hmmm, that could be a problem. Any chance of installing a SCSI controller to one of the other machines? :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
pdflib for php
Hello, i'm trying to install php extensions for pdf and i encounter the following error : => pdflib-2.0.4.tgz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/PECL. => Attempting to fetch from http://pecl.php.net/get/. pdflib-2.0.4.tgz 100% of 35 kB 22 kBps ===> Extracting for pecl-pdflib-2.0.4 => Checksum OK for PECL/pdflib-2.0.4.tgz. ===> Patching for pecl-pdflib-2.0.4 ===> pecl-pdflib-2.0.4 depends on file: /usr/local/include/php/main/php.h - found ===> pecl-pdflib-2.0.4 depends on executable: phpize - found ===> pecl-pdflib-2.0.4 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/php/20020429/gd.so - found ===> pecl-pdflib-2.0.4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/automake15 - found ===> pecl-pdflib-2.0.4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/autoconf253 - found ===> pecl-pdflib-2.0.4 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/libtool13 - found ===> pecl-pdflib-2.0.4 depends on shared library: pdf.7 - not found ===>Verifying install for pdf.7 in /usr/ports/print/pdflib ===> pdflib-6.0.1 is forbidden: http://vuxml.freebsd.org/fc7e6a42-6012-11d9-a9e7-0001020eed82.html. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/print/pdflib. *** Error code 1 I even try to manually install the port ... no luck. www2# cd /usr/ports/print/pdflib www2# make install ===> pdflib-6.0.1 is forbidden: http://vuxml.freebsd.org/fc7e6a42-6012-11d9-a9e7-0001020eed82.html. www2# Forbidden ? Why ? anyone ... Cristi --- This message and its contents have been scanned and certified for transmission as being free from malicious code by <>. This message may contain confidential, privileged or other legally protected information. It is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the addressee, or someone the addressee authorized to receive this message, you are prohibited from copying, distributing or otherwise using it. Please notify the sender and return it.Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d vs /etc/rc.conf question
Toomas Aas wrote: Andy Firman wrote: On my 4.10 box, there is a mysql-server script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d and nothing in /etc/rc.conf, yet mysql-server starts up a boot time. Why? Your mysql-server port was probably installed before 31.10.2004. It was modified to use rc.conf variables at that date (see /usr/ports/UPDATING). AFAIK 4.x will run any script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d which ends in .sh and is executable. The script may use variables stored in /etc/rc.conf but in old installations the scripts has not been updated. If you want not to start mysql-server on startup, rename the script or change permissions. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: pdflib for php
On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 12:11:04PM +0200, Cristi Tauber wrote: > ===> pdflib-6.0.1 is forbidden: > http://vuxml.freebsd.org/fc7e6a42-6012-11d9-a9e7-0001020eed82.html. > > Forbidden ? Why ? anyone ... Yes this one: just follow the link. (pretty obvious ;)) If you insist in installing the port, 'un' break it manually. HTH -- Thanos Tsouanas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> .: Sians http://thanos.sians.org/ .: http://www.sians.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Open Sound System
Gerard Seibert wrote: > I have seen OSS from opensound.org mentioned here a few times. I have > not been able to locate it in the 'ports tree'. Would I be correct in > assuming that it is not available there, but rather only by downloading > it directly from opensound.org directly? Yes, that's correct. AFAIK, the reason is this: "Open Sound System is not freeware but commercial product. The software itself is freely downloadable from our web site. However it needs a run time license to work. The software package itself contains a time limited evaluation license which installs automatically. To remove the time limit you will need to purchase a permanent license from our web site or any of our official distributors."[1] and: "Open Sound System is now free for personal and non-commercial use and comes with a license key that will allow you to run OSS. The license key is valid for 3 months at a time after which you will need to download and install OSS again. There are no time limitations or restricted functionality during the licensing period. A permanant license key that will entitle you to free support and upgrades can be ordered here"[2] Regards, Karol [1] http://www.opensound.com/install_gzipped.html [2] http://www.opensound.com/download.cgi -- Karol Kwiatkowski ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Security for webserver behind router?
>From the keyboard of Ted Mittelstaedt, written on Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at >11:25:00PM -0800: > > I am running Apache 1.3.33, as you suggest I should. You say > > "as long as > > Apache is secure"; what should I do to be sure that Apache is secure? > > > > Nothing, you nor nobody can do this. All you can do is subscribe to > the Apache mailing list and if someone discovers a hole in Apache > at some point in the future, then you can immediately patch your > installation with the inevitable patch that will shortly follow. Don't forget that Apache's nature is offering content. What about unsafe PHP/CGI-scripts? You can secure Apache, but that doesn't help when your webapplication is a big hole to your system. Just my 0.2$c Grtz, -- Eilko. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
Scott Bennett wrote: And so your preference would be that the machines should go to a landfill rather than to someone who can't afford a computer at all? Here in the Civilized World, we recycle the materials used in computers (well, most of them), we don't throw them into the sea. You sound awfully willing to spend other people's money. Perhaps you should ask them to buy you some texts on economics. Perhaps you should attempt to do some calculations and try to find out which is actually less expensive, and at the same time, provides bigger benefit. Apart from the fact that a person who speaks Arabic or Indonesian, or Pashtu probably has little use for a "kewl-themed" blackbox desktop, or something like that. That works for us latin-script Unix geeks with a working knowledge of English but certainly not for an average user in the 3rd World. And anything that gets near internationalization on Unix or Linux, namely KDE and Gnome, requires even more powerful hardware than "Windoze" and probably still doesn't have the kind of local language integration that a localized version of Windows has. Wake up from your pipe dreams. Shipping decommissioned computers to the 3rd world is not going to solve any development problem. Cheap Asian computers with a pirated localized version of XP Home and Office are a lot more effective here. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: freebsd IT mailing list or newsgroup?
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:05:41 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Have you seen my book and website? > > http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > It is out of print now but still available on Amazon. Ted; Will you do an updated version of the book some day ? I see it has 4 and 1/2 stars on Amazon.com; a very good reader review rating. Kind regards, Jonathan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
fast CGI
I have a .fcgi perl routine which has at the top of it: #!/usr/bin/perl use FCGI; # imports the library and when I attempt to execute this .fcgi, I get the following error message: Can't locate FCGI.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.5 /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/BSDPAN /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5/mach /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.5 .) at ./test.fcgi line 3 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at ./test.fcgi line 3. I tried compiling the perl port using -DWITH_FCGI ... that was a stab in the dark How can I get this FCGI module ? Thanks, Jim ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: pdflib for php
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Thanos Tsouanas > Sent: donderdag 20 januari 2005 11:31 > To: FreeBSD questions > Subject: Re: pdflib for php > > ===> pecl-pdflib-2.0.4 depends on shared library: pdf.7 - not found > ===>Verifying install for pdf.7 in /usr/ports/print/pdflib > ===> pdflib-6.0.1 is forbidden: > http://vuxml.freebsd.org/fc7e6a42-6012-11d9-a9e7-0001020eed82.html. > > Yes this one: just follow the link. (pretty obvious ;)) > > If you insist in installing the port, 'un' break it manually. I just installed PHP 4.3.10 myself (FreeBSD 4.10R), and it never complained about pdflib-6.0.1 being forbidden. This is not good. :( I just looked at my phpinfo output, and it says: PDFlib GmbH Version 6.0.1 PECL Version 2.0.3 I only installed the entire new ports.tar.gz a few days ago. Why would this occur? Thanks, - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: fast CGI
Hello, On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 03:45:23AM -0800 or thereabouts, Jim Pazarena wrote: > I have a .fcgi perl routine which has at the top of it: > > #!/usr/bin/perl > > use FCGI; # imports the library > > and when I attempt to execute this .fcgi, I get the following error > message: > > Can't locate FCGI.pm in @INC (@INC contains: Go for these: /usr/ports/www/mod_fastcgi /usr/ports/www/p5-FastCGI Cheers, Martin -- martin hudec * 421 907 303 393 * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://www.aeternal.net "Nothing travels faster than the speed of light with the possible exception of bad news, which obeys its own special laws." Douglas Adams, "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" pgp4C9ZkMqp3y.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: fast CGI
On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 03:45:23AM -0800, Jim Pazarena wrote: > I have a .fcgi perl routine which has at the top of it: > > I tried compiling the perl port using -DWITH_FCGI > ... that was a stab in the dark Maybe the ports will help you: cd /usr/ports make search key="fcgi" or go to http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ and search for 'fcgi'.. HTH -- Thanos Tsouanas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> .: Sians http://thanos.sians.org/ .: http://www.sians.org/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
Matthias Buelow wrote: Apart from the fact that a person who speaks Arabic or Indonesian, or Pashtu probably has little use for a "kewl-themed" blackbox desktop, or something like that. That works for us latin-script Unix geeks with a working knowledge of English but certainly not for an average user in the 3rd World. You seem to forget that in most african and central/south american countries the official languages are still English, French, Spanish, Portugese, or other European language, while local languages are only slowly getting recognized. Further, the European languages are particularly strong in areas that actually have electricity to hook up a computer, not to mention internet access. Also, in many developing countries, people are much more aware of the need to learn in particular English than in many European countries. So, shipping of used pc's to a second life may not be a bad idea. Also, these old machines are less sensible to fluctuations in electricity, and this may be important factor in parts of these countries. That said, ofcourse, one should consider the cost against buying new computers, the risks that personal data is not properly deleted before shipping etc. (personally I believe that harddisks should always be destroyed). Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: need help
angelito munez schrieb: Hi,.. i just know how to fomat and basic configure freebsd 4.9 i want to run as a firewall and router s well. what shud i need some file to fetch. i have a DSL connection and i have 5 users to be run.. and i wnt to know just a basic routing and firewaaling commands.. thnks.. bro.. if u can help me out.. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' Go to http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/index.html an read it carefully. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Re[6]: Can´t access a box remotely
Hexren: Ok. From the logical point of view this is true. But when I put put router_enable="NO" in rc.conf, the internal LAN and the box cannot be reached anymore from the Internet. From the internal LAN I can do ssh to the box always regardless of this setting. Thanks anyway!! Your help was very useful. Sincerely, Mauricio. On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:48:18 +0100, Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > MB> Hexren: > > MB> Also I have another question: > > MB> If you look at the handbook it states that if you use ppp, you need to > MB> put router_enable="NO" in rc.conf, because if you enable routed, it > MB> can delete the routes added by ppp. The problem is that if I put > MB> router_enable="NO" in rc.conf, i cant access my box from outside, and > MB> this time is not a dyndns related issue. I don´t have idea that what > MB> could be the cause of this situation. Does it seems familiar to you??? > > MB> Thank you for all your help!!! > > MB> Mauricio. > > - > > No it does not. > In my experience just using 'gateway_enable="yes"' is sufficient for > bringing a private LAN online. > > Hexren > > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
On Jan 20 at 12:53, Erik Norgaard opined: > (personally I believe that harddisks should always be destroyed). Eh? Surely you don't meant trashed - physically annihilated? Phew! I believe in radical solutions certainly, but..umm..isn't that going just a little bit too far? :-) I'm assuming you mean destructively formatted... Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE - http://www.FreeBSD.org - There can be only One Thu Jan 20 13:11:00 CET 2005 1:11PM up 2:01, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Torrent Program
Im chasing a GUI Torrent program that will allow multiple downloads of torrents without having to re-open the d/l program for each new torrent. If anyone knows of such a program please let me know(not QTorrent) -- Yours Sincerely Shinjii http://www.shinji.nq.nu ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: pdflib for php
Thanos Tsouanas wrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 12:11:04PM +0200, Cristi Tauber wrote: ===> pdflib-6.0.1 is forbidden: http://vuxml.freebsd.org/fc7e6a42-6012-11d9-a9e7-0001020eed82.html. Forbidden ? Why ? anyone ... Yes this one: just follow the link. (pretty obvious ;)) If you insist in installing the port, 'un' break it manually. HTH Purely out of curiosity.. when a possible exploit such as this is discovered in a port and a patch is provided, why is it not patched immediately? I understand that when a vulnerability is discovered it is important to look for similar bugs in the file and also the entire port. Is this what takes the time or is it purely a maintainer finding the time to update it? Again this is just out of curiosity and not related to this port in particular. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
I do not understand kernel modules
Hello friends. I am a FreeBSD newbie, I am going to ask you a question that I have not been able to solve reading the manual. I am using 5.3 release. I have compiled a custom kernel in my old pentium 75 MHz machine to include the driver for my sound card. I added the following lines to the kernel config file device sound device "snd_es137x" and compiled the kernel perfectly. (long time ;-) ) But there is something that I do not understand well. When I look at the contents of /boot/kernel/ directory, I found that there are kernel sound modules *.ko for every sound card the kernel supports. Should not there be my sound card module alone? Does It mean that you have to compile all the stuff, even if you are going to use only one kind of sound card? Am I missing something? Thanks in advance. Ramiro. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: DNS reverse zone problem?
I wrote an article http://newweb.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch3/ about the
reverse zones.
the idea was that in classless network it is the same 0/26 with PTR
records = CNAME 1.0.z.y.x.in-addr.arpa.
and about the ip address is like that:
example
network : 111.111.111.0/26
ns1.example.com 111.111.111.1
named.conf:
options {
directory "/etc/namedb";
pid-file"/var/run/named/pid";
dump-file "/var/dump/named_dump.db";
statistics-file "/var/stats/named.stats";
allow-query { //any;
10.0.0.1/24; #internal ip addresses
} ;
allow-transfer { none; } ;
//allow-recursion { none; } ;
version " " ;
// If named is being used only as a local resolver, this is a safe
default.
// For named to be accessible to the network, comment this option, specify
// the proper IP address, or delete this option.
//listen-on { 127.0.0.1; };
// If you have IPv6 enabled on this system, uncomment this option for
// use as a local resolver. To give access to the network, specify
// an IPv6 address, or the keyword "any".
// listen-on-v6{ ::1; };
// In addition to the "forwarders" clause, you can force your name
// server to never initiate queries of its own, but always ask its
// forwarders only, by enabling the following line:
//
// forward only;
// If you've got a DNS server around at your upstream provider, enter
// its IP address here, and enable the line below. This will make you
// benefit from its cache, thus reduce overall DNS traffic in the
Internet.
/*
forwarders {
my-isp-dns;
};
*/
/*
* If there is a firewall between you and nameservers you want
* to talk to, you might need to uncomment the query-source
* directive below. Previous versions of BIND always asked
* questions using port 53, but BIND versions 8 and later
* use a pseudo-random unprivileged UDP port by default.
*/
query-source address * port 53;
};
#disable lame logging
logging {
category lame-servers { null; };
};
// If you enable a local name server, don't forget to enter 127.0.0.1
// first in your /etc/resolv.conf so this server will be queried.
// Also, make sure to enable it in /etc/rc.conf.
zone "." {
type hint;
file "named.root";
};
zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" {
type master;
file "master/localhost.rev";
};
// RFC 3152
zone
"1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.ARPA"
{
type master;
file "master/localhost-v6.rev";
};
// RFC 1886 -- deprecated
zone
"1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.INT"
{
type master;
file "master/localhost-v6.rev";
};
//###
// CONFIGURATION
//###
zone "example.com" {
type master;
file "master/example.com";
allow-query { any; };
allow-transfer { myslaves;
};
};
zone "0/26.111.111.111.in-addr.arpa" {
type master;
file "master/example.com.rev";
allow-query { any; };
allow-transfer { myslaves;
};
};
zone file:
$TTL 3600
$ORIGIN 0/26.111.111.111.in-addr.arpa.
@ IN SOA ns1.example.com. root.example.com. (
2005011901 ; Serial
10800 ; Refresh
3600; Retry
604800 ; Expire
3600 ) ; Minimum
@ IN NS ns1.example.com.
@ IN NS ns.example.com.
1 IN PTR ns1.example.com.
7 IN PTR mail1.example.com.
5 IN PTR example.com.
error message:
named[96142]: client 209.120.155.226#8539: query (cache)
'1.111.111.111.in-addr.arpa/PTR/IN' denied
>
> zone "0/26.XXX.XXX.XXX.in-addr.arpa." {
> type master;
> file "master/example.com.rev"
> allow-query { any; } ;
> allow-transfer {
> myslave server;
> } ;
> };
That's a very strange zone declaration. You'd normally have
a zone named 0.z.y.x.in-addr.arpa with PTR records from 1-62 therein,
and the above zone delegated to you. Then the z.y.x.in-addr.arpa zone
would include CNAMEs such as:
$ORIGIN z.y.x.in-addr.arpa.
1IN CNAME 1.0.z.y.x.in-addr.arpa.
2IN CNAME 2.0.z.y.x.in-addr.arpa.
Anyway, I think the zone name above is your problem.
Failing that, please explain how your reverse DNS is delegated (note: at
times like this, obfuscation of IP addresses is likely to make it harder
for me to understand your situation, so I may just give up if you
continue to do this).
Ceri
PS. This is *way* off-topic for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
Colin J. Raven wrote: Eh? Surely you don't meant trashed - physically annihilated? Phew! I believe in radical solutions certainly, but..umm..isn't that going just a little bit too far? :-) I'm assuming you mean destructively formatted... Surely that depends on what was on them. The disks from Internet Cafe computers are most likely unproblematic. mkb. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
dns question
Not really a freebsdquestion specifically. My company uses ns.foo.com and ns1.foo.com for primay/secondary dns, about 200 domains rely on these. We want a new physical machine , in a different location, with a different IP to be our secondary dns. lets call it www.jerky.com ip = 244.233.222.211 imaginary.. Can I just make ns1.foo.com point to the new ip address, and update the registrar with the new ip for ns1.foo.com, and here's the kicker _ NOT have to worry about changing the secondary dns info for all 200 other domains _ Thanks folks, I hope i wrote my scenerio clearly enough. Jeff. -- Jeff MacDonald http://www.halifaxbudolife.ca ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:55:39 -0600 (CST), Scott Bennett wrote > On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:26:49 -0500 daniel quinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >On January 19, 2005 03:06 pm, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> > >> Fac> I think the "junky old PC" market is just what the current FreeBSD > >> "team" Fac> is targeting. > >> > >> At least someone is thinking of it. There are a lot of PCs out there > >> that are still in perfect working order, but are too slow to run the > >> hugely bloated desktop operating systems (and the "server" versions > >> thereof) that are popular today. Efficient operating systems like UNIX > >> can give these machines new life and purpose and save tremendous > >> resources in the process. > >> > >> Indeed, someone in the Third World without the means to buy a new PC and > >> an expensive Windows license could find a junk PC and install FreeBSD on > >> it for nothing, and be up and running in no time. While UNIX doesn't > >> have the advantages of Windows on the desktop, you can't beat the price, > >> and it'll run on anything. > > > >not to mention the huge environmental implications of producing newer hardware > >every year to support said bloated hardware. if the same job can be done > >with a 10 year old box, i'm glad freebsd is here to help me do it. > > > The recent discussion in this thread causes me to wonder > whether FreeBSD's performance on older, slower equipment could be a contributing > factor to why hardware vendors like Dell and ATI are willing to > provide only limited support for LINUX and none at all for FreeBSD. > After all, if FreeBSD lets a Pentium II w/MMX handle, for example, a > moderately loaded web site or large network firewall or some other > reasonable use and thereby obviating many purchases of hardware > upgrades, why would they want to encourage its use? AFAIK Dell only provides support for Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Which is a company. There's probably profit in it for Dell as well. So why would a company that want more money give support for an operating system where is no money to be gained from? Of course, I could be completely wrong in here. So feel free to correct me if I am :) Cheers, Jorn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: I do not understand kernel modules
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:38:54 +0100, Ramiro Aceves wrote > Hello friends. > > I am a FreeBSD newbie, I am going to ask you a question that I have not > been able to solve reading the manual. I am using 5.3 release. I have > compiled a custom kernel in my old pentium 75 MHz machine to include > the driver for my sound card. I added the following lines to the kernel > config file > > device sound > device "snd_es137x" > > and compiled the kernel perfectly. (long time ;-) ) > > But there is something that I do not understand well. When I look at > the contents of /boot/kernel/ directory, I found that there are > kernel sound modules *.ko for every sound card the kernel supports. > Should not there be my sound card module alone? Does It mean that > you have to compile all the stuff, even if you are going to use only > one kind of sound card? Am I missing something? Your sound card has been build into the kernel itself (which is /boot/kernel/ kernel AFAIK). The *.ko are kernel modules, which you can load using the kldload command. So in case you get a new sound card, find out what driver it supports and you can use kldload .ko to get support for your sound card without recompiling your kernel. Cheers, Jorn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Torrent Program
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:25:50 +1000, Warren wrote > Im chasing a GUI Torrent program that will allow multiple downloads > of torrents without having to re-open the d/l program for each new > torrent. If anyone knows of such a program please let me know(not > QTorrent) ABC has a Linux version, though it's still in alpha fase. Jorn. > -- > Yours Sincerely > Shinjii > http://www.shinji.nq.nu > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: dns question
* Jeff MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [0157 12:57]: > Not really a freebsdquestion specifically. > > My company uses >ns.foo.com and ns1.foo.com for primay/secondary dns, about 200 > domains rely on these. > > We want a new physical machine , in a different location, with a > different IP to be our secondary dns. lets call it www.jerky.com ip = > 244.233.222.211 imaginary.. > Can I just make ns1.foo.com point to the new ip address, and update > the registrar with the new ip for ns1.foo.com, and here's the kicker > > _ NOT have to worry about changing the secondary dns info for all 200 > other domains _ Is the second NS server listed in the domain by hostname? If so, you'll be alright. > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" -- 'When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite.' -- Winston Churchill, On formal declarations of war Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Hardware RAID Support (was RE: One Last Plea For Vinum Assistance)
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:57:21 -0800, > "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > This did teach me a lesson that I kind of knew already but > didn't think too much about. That is, a software array is no substitute > for a hardware array. ... Agreed completely, which leads me to my question. Does anybody know what the plans are for the SCSI hardware raid controllers vis a vis CAM? I have a Mylex Extreme RAID 1100, which uses the mlx(4) driver. The mlx(4) driver does not use CAM, whereas its cousin the mly(4) driver does interact with CAM. I corresponded with Michael Smith, the principal author of both drivers, a while ago and he told me that it was a pain in the neck to integrate mly(4) with CAM and he did not forsee this ever being done for mlx(2). One side-effect of this is that although the RAID setup utility for the card does allow a channel(s) to be designated a plain non-RAID SCSI channel for use by a tape drive or CDROM, the FreeBSD driver does not support this. Also, the mlxcontrol(8) facility is a little on the basic side, with most of the capabilities of the card not supported. My main point is that support for SCSI hardware RAID seems to be a bit of a dog's breakfast at the moment and are there plans to brings things together? BTW: 1. Please do not ask me to donate a card to the developers. I don't have a spare. However, I know how the game is played and I am not asking anybody to donate their time to my problems. My only serious problem was a bug in mlxcontrol, for which I submitted a PR, with a patch. 2. If anybody is looking for a hardware RAID card, I can recommend the Extreme RAID 1100. It's a triple channel U2W card. I got mine for a song on Ebay. Note that it is definitely worth the trouble to update to the latest version of the firmware. ...Sandy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
SIR
SORRY SIR, I DONOT MADE THIS TYPE OF MISTAKE AGAIN . I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT NEXT TIME.SORRY AGAIN TO DISTURB YOU. BUT SIR...KINDLY TELL ME HOW CA I INSTALL MODEM IN FREEBSD 5.1 ...MY MODEM IS LUCENT (LT WIN MODEM).PLZ SIR ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: SIR
Could it be, that you *do* have a serious *CAPS LOCK* obsession? Ali Farhan schrieb: SORRY SIR, I DONOT MADE THIS TYPE OF MISTAKE AGAIN . I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT NEXT TIME.SORRY AGAIN TO DISTURB YOU. BUT SIR...KINDLY TELL ME HOW CA I INSTALL MODEM IN FREEBSD 5.1 ...MY MODEM IS LUCENT (LT WIN MODEM).PLZ SIR ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" !DSPAM:41efb2e521413598313366! -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen / With kind regards DAn.I.El S. Haischt Want a complete signature??? Type at a shell prompt: $ > finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD 5.3 installation
Le 19/01/2005 à 10:05:23-0600, javier ivan mendoza a écrit > When the device probing starts the last line is like > this > md0: Preloaded image 4423680 bytes at > 0xc03ddcd4 > Then nothing happens and the machine does not respond, > what do you think is wrong? > > Pentium III processor, MSI motherbord, this is my > first contact with Unix so I will apreciate you help. > You boot from cd-rom ? or other kind of device ? like floppy Regards -- Albert SHIH Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT) U.F.R. de Mathematiques. Heure local/Local time: Thu Jan 20 14:36:32 CET 2005 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Creator of 4.4 BSD
Hello, Sorry for my poor english language because I'm french.. I would to know who is the creator of 4.4 BSD. Cordially, Ben Clark. -- ___ Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
Colin J. Raven wrote: Eh? Surely you don't meant trashed - physically annihilated? Phew! I believe in radical solutions certainly, but..umm..isn't that going just a little bit too far? :-) I'm assuming you mean destructively formatted... You always have to classify the data and take appropriate measures, as well as consider the costs of various methods of data destruction. It may actually be cheaper to melt the disks and by new ones rather than do a destructive format. Remember, if you have no trust relation with the ones who receive the pc's then the trusted employee will most likely be one from your organization and high paid. It has happened that companies have shipped of a load of used pc's for reuse in poor countries and then sensitive data has reappeared where it shouldn't, causing more than just embarasment to the original owner. If a harddisk contains sensitive information such as personal infor- mation, information about your security infrastructure (passwords), or other, then I would prefer a complete meltdown of the disk and recycle it as scrap metal. EOR Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Creator of 4.4 BSD
On 01/20/05 14:38, b zz wrote: Hello, Sorry for my poor english language because I'm french.. I would to know who is the creator of 4.4 BSD. Cordially, Ben Clark. It was released by the University of California at Berkeley, although it has its roots at the Bell Labs. Or at AT&T. Or maybe in Berkeley. Depending on how you look at things. http://www.levenez.com/unix/ Regards, Phil. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Hardware RAID Support (was RE: One Last Plea For Vinum Assistance)
On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 05:22:36AM -0800, Sandy Rutherford wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 22:57:21 -0800, > > "Ted Mittelstaedt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > This did teach me a lesson that I kind of knew already but > > didn't think too much about. That is, a software array is no substitute > > for a hardware array. ... > > Agreed completely, which leads me to my question. > > Does anybody know what the plans are for the SCSI hardware raid > controllers vis a vis CAM? I have a Mylex Extreme RAID 1100, which > uses the mlx(4) driver. The mlx(4) driver does not use CAM, whereas > its cousin the mly(4) driver does interact with CAM. > > I corresponded with Michael Smith, the principal author of both > drivers, a while ago and he told me that it was a pain in the neck to > integrate mly(4) with CAM and he did not forsee this ever being done > for mlx(2). One side-effect of this is that although the RAID setup > utility for the card does allow a channel(s) to be designated a plain > non-RAID SCSI channel for use by a tape drive or CDROM, the FreeBSD > driver does not support this. Also, the mlxcontrol(8) facility is a > little on the basic side, with most of the capabilities of the card > not supported. > > My main point is that support for SCSI hardware RAID seems to be a bit > of a dog's breakfast at the moment and are there plans to brings > things together? > > BTW: > > 1. Please do not ask me to donate a card to the developers. I don't have a >spare. However, I know how the game is played and I am not asking >anybody to donate their time to my problems. My only serious >problem was a bug in mlxcontrol, for which I submitted a PR, with a >patch. > > 2. If anybody is looking for a hardware RAID card, I can recommend the >Extreme RAID 1100. It's a triple channel U2W card. I got mine for >a song on Ebay. Note that it is definitely worth the trouble to >update to the latest version of the firmware. Sandy, there are Hardware RAID implementations that do not need special controllers. The array is free-standing, and presents to the host what looks like simple disks, and hides mirroring, RAID-parity, striping, scrubbing, and other integrity functions behind that layer of abstraction. I know that there are people that are using such arrays as these (even EMC Symmetrix, which is very costly) on FreeBSD systems, because FreeBSD just thinks that they are just simple (but extremely fast and reliable:) ) disks. Even CDW has such "under the covers" hardware arrays for sale. You don't need ANY special support in FreeBSD to use some of them. Be ware, though! Some of them, for reasons beyond my ability to phathom, do require custom HBA drivers! That's right - standard HBA hardware and firmware - but custom drivers. Maddening. Make sure you understand what you are buying, because FreeBSD probably won't be on their support matrix, even though they will work find together. That's nothing new - FreeBSD is not on the support matrix of 90% of the hardware we use. Sadly, we're just not "on the radar screen" for many of these companies. FreeBSD has two problems in this regard - and if I were in a decision-making capacity with a large company, I'd be donating equipment and money to make these happen: 1) Some intelligent subsystems of this nature (EMC CLARiiON, EMC Symmetrix, Hitachi Thunder, LSI, Xiotech Magnitude) are moving to all FC-SW implementations, or at least, FC-AL, though FC-AL, whether "real" or "simulated" (QuickLoop simulates FC-AL on Brocade switches, for instance) does have some support in FreeBSD. FreeBSD's fibre support is, um, limited. A driver has been written for QLogic controllers that use the "isp" chip, but it's not clear to me yet whether it supports FC-SW and FC-AL, or FC-AL only. I can find some documentation that only mentions FC-AL, and other documetation that seems to hint otherwise - I'm actually in the process of trying to hook up an EMC CLARiiON through a Brocade switch to some Q-Logic cards now. FreeBSD has no support for other FC HBA's. 2) FreeBSD does not have, as nearly as I can tell, any sort of path management software. That is, there's no support for presenting the same volume down multiple HBA's and either coordinating the access or using one as active and the other as standby. (Greg - if vinum does this, my apologies - I haven't seen what I recognized as this functionality.) What I'm talking about here is like HP PV-LINKS, AIX MPIO, Veritas Volume Manager DMP (Dynamic Multi-Pathing), DG/EMC ATF (Automated Transparent Failover), or EMC PowerPath. I think that Linux benefits from Veritas DMP (if you buy the license), but I'm not sure about that. This message comes at a very interesting time. I am, actually, in a position to donate some FibreChannel switches, and I was about to write to the author of the ISP driver to see if he, or someone he
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
On Jan 20 at 14:55, Erik Norgaard launched this into the bitstream: > Colin J. Raven wrote: > >> Eh? Surely you don't meant trashed - physically annihilated? >> Phew! I believe in radical solutions certainly, but..umm..isn't that going >> just a little bit too far? :-) >> I'm assuming you mean destructively formatted... > > You always have to classify the data and take appropriate measures, as well > as consider the costs of various methods of data destruction. > > It may actually be cheaper to melt the disks and by new ones rather than > do a destructive format. Remember, if you have no trust relation with the > ones who receive the pc's then the trusted employee will most likely be one > from your organization and high paid. > > It has happened that companies have shipped of a load of used pc's for > reuse in poor countries and then sensitive data has reappeared where it > shouldn't, causing more than just embarasment to the original owner. > > If a harddisk contains sensitive information such as personal infor- > mation, information about your security infrastructure (passwords), or other, > then I would prefer a complete meltdown of the disk and recycle it as scrap > metal. I always thought that formatting/fdisk'ing twice completely erased *permanently* whatever had been on the disc. You make an interesting case that previously I never thought about in any detail. Thanks for real info from the field, it's definitely food for thought! Regards, -Colin -- Colin J. Raven FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE - http://www.FreeBSD.org - There can be only One Thu Jan 20 14:59:00 CET 2005 2:59PM up 3:49, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Samba not showing public share et al.
Server Box (): Pentium 3 FreeBSD 5.3 Samba 3.0.7 connection to a windows 2000 LAN Samba on the freebsd side has the following smb.conf: [global] workgroup = MYCO # server string = VicBSD load printers = no log file = /var/log/samba/log.%m log level = 1 max log size = 50 security = user nt acl support = no null passwords = yes encrypt passwords = yes smb passwd file = /usr/local/private/smbpasswd wins server = 192.168.201.122 192.168.201.121 [homes] read only=no [public] comment = %h Shared Public Directory path = /home/public force directory mode = 0777 force create mode = 0777 force group = nobody force user = nobody public = yes writeable = yes read only = no browseable = yes - I gave /home/public permissions r,w,x for all the users and issued a 'smbpassword -a -n nobody'. With this configuration I can easily and reliably connect to my home share providing a password. BUT, I and other users are unable to connect from our Win2k or XP Pro boxes directly to the public share. As a matter of fact windows: 1) Shows all the shares including an 'invented' nobody share not defined elsewhere. This happens while I put browseable=yes only in the [public] section of smb.conf and not in each share. 2) If we ask to connect to \\vicbsd\public I'm prompted for a userid and password. Only giving the 'nobody' userid is possible to connect to the share from within windows boxes. I mean not directly without being prompted. Why is that 1) and 2) and what should I do to connect without being prompted for userid and password? Ciao Vittorio ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: pdflib for php
On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 12:38:01PM +, Chris Hodgins wrote: > Thanos Tsouanas wrote: > >On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 12:11:04PM +0200, Cristi Tauber wrote: > > > >>===> pdflib-6.0.1 is forbidden: > >>http://vuxml.freebsd.org/fc7e6a42-6012-11d9-a9e7-0001020eed82.html. > >> > >>Forbidden ? Why ? anyone ... > > > > > >Yes this one: just follow the link. (pretty obvious ;)) > > > >If you insist in installing the port, 'un' break it manually. > > > >HTH > > > > Purely out of curiosity.. when a possible exploit such as this is > discovered in a port and a patch is provided, why is it not patched > immediately? I understand that when a vulnerability is discovered it is > important to look for similar bugs in the file and also the entire port. > Is this what takes the time or is it purely a maintainer finding the > time to update it? > > Again this is just out of curiosity and not related to this port in > particular. Yes -- it's just waiting for the maintainer to provide an update. Most maintainers in this situation will send-pr(1) a fix within a day or so. The security team will generally prod (via e-mail) any port maintainer when they add a VuXML entry concerning their port -- unless it was the port maintainer that told them about the problem in the first place, which does happen occasionally. PRs applying updates to ports and marked 'Security' and/or CC'd to the security team tend to get committed PDQ, even during the middle of a ports freeze. Depending on the responsiveness of the maintainer and/or the severity of the vulnerability and/or availability of patches a port may either be marked 'FORBIDDEN' or pre-emptively patched without the maintainer's involvement, but those are both quite rare events. You can always override the vulnerability checking by setting 'DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes' in the environment. Often this makes sense to do, but only once you've read through the background material from the VuXML document -- eg. the vulnerability may permit privilege escalation for local users, which would be bad ju-ju if you were running a public access shell server, but no biggie if it was on your personal desktop box that only you would ever use. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK pgpZhMOMUUB9O.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: pdflib for php
Matthew Seaman wrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 12:38:01PM +, Chris Hodgins wrote: Thanos Tsouanas wrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 12:11:04PM +0200, Cristi Tauber wrote: ===> pdflib-6.0.1 is forbidden: http://vuxml.freebsd.org/fc7e6a42-6012-11d9-a9e7-0001020eed82.html. Forbidden ? Why ? anyone ... Yes this one: just follow the link. (pretty obvious ;)) If you insist in installing the port, 'un' break it manually. HTH Purely out of curiosity.. when a possible exploit such as this is discovered in a port and a patch is provided, why is it not patched immediately? I understand that when a vulnerability is discovered it is important to look for similar bugs in the file and also the entire port. Is this what takes the time or is it purely a maintainer finding the time to update it? Again this is just out of curiosity and not related to this port in particular. Yes -- it's just waiting for the maintainer to provide an update. Most maintainers in this situation will send-pr(1) a fix within a day or so. The security team will generally prod (via e-mail) any port maintainer when they add a VuXML entry concerning their port -- unless it was the port maintainer that told them about the problem in the first place, which does happen occasionally. PRs applying updates to ports and marked 'Security' and/or CC'd to the security team tend to get committed PDQ, even during the middle of a ports freeze. Depending on the responsiveness of the maintainer and/or the severity of the vulnerability and/or availability of patches a port may either be marked 'FORBIDDEN' or pre-emptively patched without the maintainer's involvement, but those are both quite rare events. You can always override the vulnerability checking by setting 'DISABLE_VULNERABILITIES=yes' in the environment. Often this makes sense to do, but only once you've read through the background material from the VuXML document -- eg. the vulnerability may permit privilege escalation for local users, which would be bad ju-ju if you were running a public access shell server, but no biggie if it was on your personal desktop box that only you would ever use. Cheers, Matthew Thanks. That was very informative. :) Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
Colin J. Raven wrote: I always thought that formatting/fdisk'ing twice completely erased *permanently* whatever had been on the disc. You make an interesting case that previously I never thought about in any detail. Thanks for real info from the field, it's definitely food for thought! I am not an expert on this, but AFAIK formatting/fdisking only rewrites the disktable and file information while the file content remain. To actually delete the files you need to overwrite each sector with random data (I think there are tools in the ports for this). Some security companies suggest that you need to overwrite each sector 20 times or more. Due to inacurracies in the writing, there may be remnants of data left after the first overwrites that can be recovered with the right tools, allthough for most users, it may be considered sufficient security to do a single overwrite. If this is required, it may actually be cheaper simply to ship new disks rather than have someone destroy data manually. But ofcourse, if you need that much security you'd also use encrypted file systems, right!? OK, this is getting off topic... end of thread (or start a new one?) Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Re[6]: Connection via proxy
Unfortunately, I was still not able to ping the proxy server. I tried pinging by using the name of the server as well as the IP address but neither were successful. Are there any preliminary configurations that should be done prior to connecting to a proxy server or is it simply a matter of connecting the cat 5 cable to the switch, adding the DNS server addresses to /etc/resolv.conf, and configuring the web browser to access the internet? --- Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> -Original Message- > >> From: Mervin McDougall > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:22 PM > >> To: Hexren > >> Cc: freebsd questions > >> Subject: Re: Re[4]: Connection via proxy > >> > >> > >> tried updating the /etc/resolve.conf with the ips > of > >> the nameservers I got from windows XP but got the > same > >> results after trying to run mozilla .. that the > proxy > >> server could not be found. > >> > > HDA> if you updated /etc/resolve.conf it won't work! > HDA> drop the 'e' off resolve > > HDA> dave > > > > >> --- Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > MM> the laptop is a dual boot running windows > XP on > >> > one > >> > MM> slice and Freebsd 5.3 on another slice. > >> > > >> > MM> I tried pinging the proxy server but got > this > >> > error > >> > MM> message > >> > > >> > MM> can't resolve proxy.uvi.edu host name look > up > >> > failure > >> > MM> proxy.uvi.edu being the name of the proxy > server > >> > > >> > MM> --- Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > >> > >> MM> Can you identify some other tests as > well I > >> > >> could > >> > >> MM> possible run other than pinging as I am > going > >> > to > >> > >> have > >> > >> MM> to reboot on each occurence to try see > if > >> > >> freebsd can > >> > >> MM> see that server and connect to it > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > - > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> You can ping the Proxy from the Notebook > ? > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> Hexren > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > - > >> > >> > >> > >> Your message doesn't parse. Why do you have > to > >> > >> reboot the machine ? Each > >> > >> time ? > >> > >> I just wanted to know, if at the point where > >> > mozilla > >> > >> says it > >> > >> can't find the proxy you can ping the proxy > using > >> > >> DNS name or IP. > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards (I really should look up some nice > way to > >> > >> finish a mail in > >> > >> english) > >> > >> > >> > >> Hexren > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > MM> __ > >> > MM> Do you Yahoo!? > >> > MM> Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So > do we. > >> > > >> > MM> http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > >> > MM> > ___ > >> > MM> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> > MM> > >> > > >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >> > MM> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > >> > > >> > - > >> > I would guess that you haven't configured DNS > under > >> > FreeBSD. > >> > > >> > > >> > Lookup the nameserver you use with WinXP. > >> > (Start->Run type "cmd" in > >> > the shell opening type "ipconfig /all") > >> > > >> > Then insert that DNS server into your > >> > /etc/resolv.conf under FreeBSD > >> > The line should look like > >> > "nameserver here>" > >> > > >> > > >> > Hexren > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> __ > >> Do you Yahoo!? > >> Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. > >> http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > >> ___ > >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/free> > bsd-questions > >> > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > >> > HDA> ___ > HDA> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > HDA> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > HDA> To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > - > > may sound like repetition. But can you ping the ip > of the nameserver ? > > Hexren > > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsu
RE: pdflib for php
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Chris Hodgins > Sent: donderdag 20 januari 2005 15:19 > To: Matthew Seaman > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: pdflib for php > > Thanks. That was very informative. :) I still do not know how to upgrade to libpdf.7 yet. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/print/pdflib/ Does not contain an upgrade/fix yet. :( - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Creator of 4.4 BSD
On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 08:38:18AM -0500, b zz wrote: > Hello, > Sorry for my poor english language because I'm french.. > I would to know who is the creator of 4.4 BSD. > Cordially, > Ben Clark. Bon jour, Ben! There - that's almost all my French - so your English is far superior to my French. BSD Unix anything came out of CSRG UCB. How's that for alphabet jumble? CSRG is the Computer Science Research Group of the University of California at Berkeley (UCB). BSD, in fact, stands for Berkeley Software Distribution. Many interesting people were in that group at the time, including some of the founders of Sun MicroSystems and other movers and shakers of the industry. The University of California bought a full source licence from AT&T Bell Labs, which had produced The Unix Operating System (at that time, they were quite adamant that "Unix" was not a noun, but an adjective which needed a noun to modify), and, at the time, offered the full source license for $200,000 commercially or $20,000 to educational institutions. The source license, interestingly, granted you the right to redistribute derivative code (code based on the licensed code), but only to another license holder. Consequently, BSD Unix spread like wildfire through educational institutions, to whom $20,000 was not an unreasonable sum. They'd mail off their check to AT&T, and sometimes, before it even got there, mail off a photocopy of the check to UCB along with a nomial media charge, and get back a 9-track tape with the full BSD on it. This included a LOT of AT&T-developed code, but since you were an AT&T license holder, that was OK. That was in the time of the Dec VAX 750 and 780, and the Dec PDP-11/63 and 11/70 - around 1975. The catch was that it was not really practical to run BSD Unix without the source, no-one was really serious about making binary distributions, and you still needed a license from AT&T to be able to receive it. Furthermore, the educational source license did NOT include a provision for redistribution to commercial binary license holders, even if someone had made a binary distribution. (Obviously, everything in computers is binary. What this convention meant was an object-code or executable-only distribution where everything is at least compiled, and no source code is distributed.) The effort began to re-write all the AT&T "encumbered" code, but therein lies a tale of mystery, intrigue, and things-that-go-bump-in-the-night. I recommend the Handbook and _The Complete FreeBSD_ by Greg Lehey for a history of What Came After That, the relationship of BSD to SyS III, Sys V, OSF-1, et al. Suffice it to say, for now, that part of what the "Free" in FreeBSD means is that it is free of all proprietary intellectual property and legally unencumbered for unlimited distribution. Ew - English can get so odd: "Proprietary property". But you all know what I mean. -- John Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
OpenOffice doesn't seem to want to accept spanish key mapings
OpenOffice doesn't seem to want to accept spanish key mappings. I can't get openoffice to accept dead key mappings that are used to create accents. Could someone who is using spanish, french, italian, portuguese give me a hint as to what they do? Every other program that I use does. Thanks, ed This is current with openoffice 1.1.4 both es and english versions. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
what release to install
I'm used to running fbsd 4.8 release on a sandbox server on my lan, from the mini-iso only. But now am looking at installing the full os from the two cd set. Is 5.3 release the recommended one to use at this time? My plan is to first install this on my xp box which is a year old and has dozens of free GB's on 4 windows partitions (one hd) and make it a dual bootable machine. Then I'd like to put it on another box with a p2-233 and about 8 free GB's on its three windows partitions. Is this all reasonable sounding? Marty Marty Landman, Face 2 Interface Inc. 845-679-9387 Search & Sort Easily: http://face2interface.com/Products/FormATable.shtml Web Installed Formmail: http://face2interface.com/formINSTal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
Scott Bennett writes: SB> The recent discussion in this thread causes me to wonder whether SB> FreeBSD's performance on older, slower equipment could be a SB> contributing factor to why hardware vendors like Dell and ATI are SB> willing to provide only limited support for LINUX and none at all SB> for FreeBSD. After all, if FreeBSD lets a Pentium II w/MMX handle, SB> for example, a moderately loaded web site or large network firewall SB> or some other reasonable use and thereby obviating many purchases of SB> hardware upgrades, why would they want to encourage its use? An excellent point. Certainly Intel has shown in the past that it is interesting in promoting technologies that gobble processor time, and so logically it and other hardware-oriented companies are not going to be interested in anything that extends the life of older hardware. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
Giorgos Keramidas writes: GK> This is likely too. Floppies have mechanical moving parts that are GK> more prone to failure than other pieces of hardware. The eerie part is that the diskette drive worked find right up until the moment where I tried to boot from it. Now it doesn't seem to work at all, or at least the BIOS and OS don't see it. It still makes the same noises when the system is reset, though. Additionally, I can't persuade the BIOS to boot from CD, even though it's supposed to be able to. GK> Hmmm, that could be a problem. Any chance of installing a SCSI GK> controller to one of the other machines? :-) The FreeBSD machine already has a SCSI controller, but I use it only for the external tape drive. I have a much fancier Adaptec SCSI controller somewhere, but it wasn't supported by my old hardware. I don't know if it would be supported by the new hardware. In any case, I don't like to move hardware bits and pieces around; it just encourages hardware problems. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Detecting CD devices
Trey Sizemore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 16:06 -0500, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > > What device are those applications looking for? > > > > Perhaps (just a guess) they're looking for /dev/cdrom or /dev/cd0 and > > you only have /dev/acd0? > > I'm not sure. I thought I remember there being a way to 'alias' the > devices such that /dev/cdrom, /dev/dvd, etc. could point to the same > device such that programs would find them. Is this the case? How would > fstab look? fstab(5) is irrelevant; that has to do with mounting filesystems. What you're thinking of is called a "symbolic link" (see ln(1)). On 5.x, you can configure devfs(8) to make links for you. /etc/devfs.conf comes with an example for making a link from /dev/acd0 to /dev/cdrom. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
Colin J. Raven writes: CJR> Eh? Surely you don't meant trashed - physically annihilated? Absolutely. That's the only safe way to protect data. Any disk drive with platters that are even remotely intact can still be read. I have yet to throw away any disk drives for this reason (can't find a convenient place to have them destroyed). -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
Colin J. Raven writes: CJR> I always thought that formatting/fdisk'ing twice completely erased CJR> *permanently* whatever had been on the disc. Information can be recovered from disks even after a dozen or more overwrites. The data is never safe with the platters intact. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Security for webserver behind router?
--- Eilko Bos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From the keyboard of Ted Mittelstaedt, written on > Wed, Jan 19, 2005 at 11:25:00PM -0800: > > > I am running Apache 1.3.33, as you suggest I > should. You say > > > "as long as > > > Apache is secure"; what should I do to be sure > that Apache is secure? > > > > > > > Nothing, you nor nobody can do this. All you can > do is subscribe to > > the Apache mailing list and if someone discovers a > hole in Apache > > at some point in the future, then you can > immediately patch your > > installation with the inevitable patch that will > shortly follow. > > Don't forget that Apache's nature is offering > content. What about unsafe > PHP/CGI-scripts? You can secure Apache, but that > doesn't help when your > webapplication is a big hole to your system. > > Just my 0.2$c > > Grtz, You can also use usr/ports/www/mod_security to help secure Apache. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 02:59:13PM +0100, Colin J. Raven wrote: > I always thought that formatting/fdisk'ing twice completely erased > *permanently* whatever had been on the disc. You make an interesting > case that previously I never thought about in any detail. By no means. You may need specialised equipment to extract the data, but you can generally recover anything that was recorded on a hard drive even after reformatting/overwriting etc. The police do that sort of recovery quite a lot when they bust people for trading in child porn and the like. If your drive contains or once contained military secrets, then in the USA and probably anywhere in the West, standard disposal procedure is that the drive be completely overwritten with specific patterns of random data several times, and then taken to a secure facility where the whole thing is literally stamped flat and chewed into small lumps of scrap. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK pgpExotRzbIGk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
Matthias Buelow writes: MB> Wake up from your pipe dreams. Shipping decommissioned computers to the MB> 3rd world is not going to solve any development problem. It helps solve an environmental problem, though. And they need not be shipped anywhere. It is sufficient to just continue using them, instead of throwing them away. That's true everywhere in the world. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
On Wednesday 19 January 2005 23:11, Tim wrote: > faisal gillani wrote: > >hmmm exactly right .. u know i have a 750MHz Athalon > >with 256MB ram .. & still my processor is 80% idle > >most of the time .. > >i also have some windows server on my network but > >thats a compulsory rather then choice . > > > > > > > >--- Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >wrote: > >>Jorn Argelo writes: > >> > >>JA> Either way, I never want another server OS > >>again. This is great. > >> > >>If I had to install a dozen more servers today, they > >>would all get > >>FreeBSD. It makes extremely good use of whatever > >>hardware you care to > >>give it. Indeed, FreeBSD can turn even junky old > >>PCs into productive > >>systems, since it is fast enough to do useful work > >>even with creaky old > >>hardware. Of course, this is presumably true with > >>most versions of UNIX > >>(those without a GUI to support, at least), but > >>since my experience is > >>with FreeBSD and it has been uniformly positive, > >>I'll just continue with > >>that. The thought of going back to a Windows server > >>now makes my teeth > >>chatter with terror--how awkward Windows servers > >>seem now! (Then again, > >>they seemed awkward even back when I used them > >>regularly--have you ever > >>tried to maintain a distant Windows server over a > >>dial-up line with > >>pcAnywhere?) > >> > >>-- > >>Anthony > >> > >> > >>___ > >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > >= > >*º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨¨*¤ Allah-hu-Akber*º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨*¤ > > > > Since we're posting specs and such, my P3 800MHz. w/ 256 RAM does all I > ask of it, with plenty of room to spare. > > FreeBSD Extacy.homeip.net 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #2: Sun Dec 19 > 04:59:10 EST 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/EXTACY > i386 > > > > last pid: 77942; load averages: 0.05, 0.09, 0.08up 2+17:49:55 > 17:52:00 > 107 processes: 2 running, 104 sleeping, 1 zombie > CPU states: 4.7% user, 0.0% nice, 4.3% system, 1.2% interrupt, 89.9% > idle > Mem: 89M Active, 49M Inact, 62M Wired, 9092K Cache, 34M Buf, 33M Free > Swap: 650M Total, 69M Used, 581M Free, 10% Inuse > > > Now, on this server I run: > PF & Nat, serving my entire internal LAN. It is my gateway from the DSL > to my LAN. > Nfs client and server. It's my file and back up server. > Apache2 W/ PHP and SSl, it's my web server for various projects, and > acts as a back up web server for a friends project. > MySql (For some database driven web projects, and for virtual domain > e-mail.) > DNS - Zone authoritave and caching. > DHCP - For the times when I need to add another machine to lan quickly. > SMTP, IMAP, POP (and their Secure equivalents) - Handles e-mail for a > few domains, probably ~5000 mails a day, with all the lists and groups > some of these people are on. (Myself included). > Spam filtering. > SSh > VNC over SSh. > X.org & enlightenment (So I can use synergy, since the server and my > workstation are right next to each other.) > A few eggdrop bots. > Top and PFTop are constantly running, so I can be constantly in awe of > just how well this thing runs. > A few other random and various daemons for monitoring and the like. > All on a generic + PF kernel. I never did any real kernel tuning. That's > next week's project. > > - Niy. > > My Athlon 3200 is always running seventeen or bust (www.seventeenorbust.com) so the load average is usually 1. Its at a low priority tho so there's not really a performance drop -- /Xian "Lady Astor to Winston Churchill: 'Sir, you're drunk.' Winston Churchill to Lady Astor: 'Madam you're ugly but I'll be sober in the morning.'" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
On Wednesday 19 January 2005 23:11, Tim wrote: > faisal gillani wrote: > >hmmm exactly right .. u know i have a 750MHz Athalon > >with 256MB ram .. & still my processor is 80% idle > >most of the time .. > >i also have some windows server on my network but > >thats a compulsory rather then choice . > > > > > > > >--- Anthony Atkielski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >wrote: > >>Jorn Argelo writes: > >> > >>JA> Either way, I never want another server OS > >>again. This is great. > >> > >>If I had to install a dozen more servers today, they > >>would all get > >>FreeBSD. It makes extremely good use of whatever > >>hardware you care to > >>give it. Indeed, FreeBSD can turn even junky old > >>PCs into productive > >>systems, since it is fast enough to do useful work > >>even with creaky old > >>hardware. Of course, this is presumably true with > >>most versions of UNIX > >>(those without a GUI to support, at least), but > >>since my experience is > >>with FreeBSD and it has been uniformly positive, > >>I'll just continue with > >>that. The thought of going back to a Windows server > >>now makes my teeth > >>chatter with terror--how awkward Windows servers > >>seem now! (Then again, > >>they seemed awkward even back when I used them > >>regularly--have you ever > >>tried to maintain a distant Windows server over a > >>dial-up line with > >>pcAnywhere?) > >> > >>-- > >>Anthony > >> > >> > >>___ > >>freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > >http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > > >= > >*º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨¨*¤ Allah-hu-Akber*º¤., ¸¸,.¤º*¨¨*¤ > > > > Since we're posting specs and such, my P3 800MHz. w/ 256 RAM does all I > ask of it, with plenty of room to spare. > > FreeBSD Extacy.homeip.net 5.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.3-RELEASE #2: Sun Dec 19 > 04:59:10 EST 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/EXTACY > i386 > > > > last pid: 77942; load averages: 0.05, 0.09, 0.08up 2+17:49:55 > 17:52:00 > 107 processes: 2 running, 104 sleeping, 1 zombie > CPU states: 4.7% user, 0.0% nice, 4.3% system, 1.2% interrupt, 89.9% > idle > Mem: 89M Active, 49M Inact, 62M Wired, 9092K Cache, 34M Buf, 33M Free > Swap: 650M Total, 69M Used, 581M Free, 10% Inuse > > > Now, on this server I run: > PF & Nat, serving my entire internal LAN. It is my gateway from the DSL > to my LAN. > Nfs client and server. It's my file and back up server. > Apache2 W/ PHP and SSl, it's my web server for various projects, and > acts as a back up web server for a friends project. > MySql (For some database driven web projects, and for virtual domain > e-mail.) > DNS - Zone authoritave and caching. > DHCP - For the times when I need to add another machine to lan quickly. > SMTP, IMAP, POP (and their Secure equivalents) - Handles e-mail for a > few domains, probably ~5000 mails a day, with all the lists and groups > some of these people are on. (Myself included). > Spam filtering. > SSh > VNC over SSh. > X.org & enlightenment (So I can use synergy, since the server and my > workstation are right next to each other.) > A few eggdrop bots. > Top and PFTop are constantly running, so I can be constantly in awe of > just how well this thing runs. > A few other random and various daemons for monitoring and the like. > All on a generic + PF kernel. I never did any real kernel tuning. That's > next week's project. > > - Niy. I also have a P90 128MB ram as a home web server (Apache/PHP/MySQL/FTP) and that is mostly idle. I dos all the odds and ends that I want to continuously. -- /Xian "The greatest glory in living lies not in never failling, but in rising every time we fall" Nelson Mandela ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
Matthew Seaman writes: MS> If your drive contains or once contained military secrets, then in the MS> USA and probably anywhere in the West, standard disposal procedure is MS> that the drive be completely overwritten with specific patterns of MS> random data several times, and then taken to a secure facility where MS> the whole thing is literally stamped flat and chewed into small lumps MS> of scrap. Assuming one doesn't have the resources to do this, what might one do to secure disk drives before disposal. I've thought of opening them up and scratching the platters or chopping them into pieces (not sure how hard this might be to do), or something. Home incineration isn't very practical, nor are machines that can chop metallic platters into confetti. Also, is there anything like a bulk degausser for disk platters (after removal from the drives)? Come to think of it, I can't remember the last time I saw a tape degausser, and I still am not quite sure what to do with old backup tapes that are unreadable but still filled with backup data. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: SIR
On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 02:23:27AM +, Ali Farhan wrote: > BUT SIR...KINDLY TELL ME HOW CA I INSTALL MODEM IN FREEBSD 5.1 ...MY > MODEM IS LUCENT (LT WIN MODEM).PLZ SIR Ah... Win modems are not generally supported under FreeBSD. You should try installing the comms/ltmdm port which has drivers for several models, but no guarrantee that your particular one will work, I'm afraid. See: http://www.freshports.org/comms/ltmdm/ Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK pgpqT6zgWJ66C.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
> >Anthony Atkielski wrote: > >> Indeed, someone in the Third World without the means to buy a new PC and > >> an expensive Windows license could find a junk PC and install FreeBSD on > > > >And where do you think would they "find" this "junk PC"? > >Don't you think that's a bit condescending? > >Like, "let's give those negroes our old shoes"? > >They can perfectly well buy new machines at local retailers (there are > >some in bigger cities) for a fraction of the money that it would take > >you to ship'em your old rustbucket. But they can get used machines for a fraction of the fraction of the cost of an old rustbucket... to use your expression. What was it that the 3rd world Windows license costs... $20? Or was that just for India or something. Anyway, after living a year in Nigeria, West Africa, where the average National salary is roughly $900 ($300 or less in rural areas), $20 is alot of money. Hardware will, in almost all cases, cost even more, so if the whole "junk" system with *NIX costs 70 USD w/ an old monitor (A quite large investment for a Nigerian) , and the "junkiest" system that can run Windows XP decently costs them 150 USD with a monitor... than I think that a "junkie" system would be the best choice. Just for my two cents... I recently sent an old laptop to a student in Nigeria who was getting ready to take a basic introduction to computer course (I.E. click the box to close the window, hit the keys on the keyboar to enter text into the word processor), and his teacher said that, though the laptop was about 10 years old, it would do perfectly fine. I got it for $40 off ebay... still more than this Nigerian college student or his family could afford. Yes, we could have sent money. But giving hand-me-down computers is useful to them, at no cost to us (We don't need those old computers), while giving money puts us at a loss, which is a feeling that Americans generally disdain. Giving money would help, as it would with alot of things in 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and all the rest world countries, but old computers, I say, are better off in the hands of those who may never have a chance to use or own a system of their own than in our dumps or garages. Cheerio, SigmaX ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: SIR
Ali: The ltmdm port may work: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/url.cgi?ports/comms/ltmdm/pkg-descr I have a feeling Matthew Seamen is right though. You may have to use an external modem. See this e-mail: Help: Tip on Buying External modem http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2004-May/046049.html On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 02:23:27 +, Ali Farhan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >SORRY SIR, I DONOT MADE THIS TYPE OF MISTAKE AGAIN . I'LL TAKE CARE OF >IT NEXT TIME.SORRY AGAIN TO DISTURB YOU. > >BUT SIR...KINDLY TELL ME HOW CA I INSTALL MODEM IN FREEBSD 5.1 ...MY >MODEM IS LUCENT (LT WIN MODEM).PLZ SIR > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
Anthony Atkielski wrote: Assuming one doesn't have the resources to do this, what might one do to secure disk drives before disposal. I've thought of opening them up and scratching the platters or chopping them into pieces (not sure how hard this might be to do), or something. Home incineration isn't very practical, nor are machines that can chop metallic platters into confetti. Open up take out the plates. The rest can be disposed normally. Either melt the plates or expose to strong fluctuating magnetic field for a long time. The simple/cheap way of doing this is to send the metal for recycling, it will be melted and all data is lost. Be sure to separate different types of metal. Ofcourse you always need to trust that noone picks out the plates. Before you get paranoid, be sure to consider the risks against the costs and make a sane decision :-) Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
Anthony Atkielski ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050121 02:12]: > Matthias Buelow writes: > MB> Wake up from your pipe dreams. Shipping decommissioned computers to the > MB> 3rd world is not going to solve any development problem. > It helps solve an environmental problem, though. And they need not be > shipped anywhere. It is sufficient to just continue using them, instead > of throwing them away. That's true everywhere in the world. Last year's model is more usable than you might think if you fill it with memory. My desktop is a PII-450. I got two more identical ones free. It's running FreeBSD 5.3 with KDE 3.3 just fine; it would have no problems running current GNOME. The main thing needed in such boxes is *memory* - it's got 768MB. So something around 500MHz will happily run Pango and the other cutting-edge internationalisation stuff if you fill it with memory. Oh, and I *really* want a much bigger hard disk so I can rip more of my CDs at higher quality. I have 60 gig of stuff and it's not enough ;-) The main reason for MHz is media tasks that involve number crunching. I have a Debian laptop, a Pentium MMX 233MHz (Pentium I, not Pentium II). Minimal install - base, then XFree86 4.3 with twm, Firefox, VNC. It has enough CPU to play MP3 or Ogg, but not to play any sort of video. However, 500MHz is enough to play 320x240 video files and to do pretty well on DVDs. So I expect the next big jump in what people think of as CPU requirements will be the next CPU-intensive media format. Or, of course, Longhorn. I'm not sure even KDE with SVG for everything could outdo that ;-) - d. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
> And anything that > gets near internationalization on Unix or Linux, namely KDE and Gnome, > requires even more powerful hardware than "Windoze" and probably still > doesn't have the kind of local language integration that a localized > version of Windows has. Um... never had it work quite that way. Especially at the server level things almost always work smoother on older systems for me than with Windows boxes, and at the user level it's generally the same. Of course, it depends on how much eye candy I enable with KDE on my Pentium w/MMX @ 233MHz, but I get better performane (And fit more apps and more usefullness on the 2 GB HD) by far than Windows XP, and does good compared to Windows 2000 (Which, granted, runs alot faster than XP). I don't care to argue about older operating systems on older hardware, or newer operating systems on newer hardware, but when it comes to *NIX vs Doze on old hardware, Windows is designed to require a hardware upgrade. Who in their right mind would try to run Windows XP on a 233MHz system? I use it as a router :-P, and can't bare much of anything else. I used it as a secondary workstation for a while with *NIX, however, and found it very usefull and enjoyable to use under KDE 3.1 (And a 1 GB HD at the time, which was plenty enough space for the apps I needed) > Wake up from your pipe dreams. Shipping decommissioned computers to the > 3rd world is not going to solve any development problem. Cheap Asian > computers with a pirated localized version of XP Home and Office are a Many countries have localized versions of Linux or other *NIX systems as well, and in my opinion SuSE, Mandrake, or Fedora (And maybe others) are easy enough to use by now to be a viable alternative to Windows on the desktop (Granted KDE or Gnome). Though I do agree, that people shouldn't be forced to learn English or other more commonly spoken languages to use their computers. Cheerio, SigmaX ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
The recent discussion in this thread causes me to wonder whether FreeBSD's performance on older, slower equipment could be a contributing factor to why hardware vendors like Dell and ATI are willing to provide only limited support for LINUX and none at all for FreeBSD. After all, if FreeBSD lets a Pentium II w/MMX handle, for example, a moderately loaded web site or large network firewall or some other reasonable use and thereby obviating many purchases of hardware upgrades, why would they want to encourage its use? Here is an interview with ati. The sad part is they give a solid no to bsd support. http://www.rage3d.com/index.php?node=getarticle&u=content%2Finterviews% 2FATIChats%2F&p=4 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 03:52:29PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Colin J. Raven writes: > > CJR> I always thought that formatting/fdisk'ing twice completely erased > CJR> *permanently* whatever had been on the disc. > > Information can be recovered from disks even after a dozen or more > overwrites. The data is never safe with the platters intact. Good gosh, what are you people doing on your machines - designing weapons systems? What what you are all saying is TRUE, it is not TRIVIAL. After a "security erase" on a disk drive, or a full over-write, it takes increasingly sophisticated levels of lab equipement and environments to do the sort of things that you are describing - including disassembly and clean-room stuff. In otherwords, someone has to be willing to invest at least a few hundred dollars (if it has simply been overwritten) to several THOUSAND dollars to do these sorts of recoveries, and some patience, because it takes TIME, and often, like million-year-old DNA, there are gaps that need to be reconstructed. What do you folks have on your hard drives that is worth thousands of dollars and weeks of time for someone to recover? If it was as easy as you describe, we'd rarely need backups. Your disk drive crash? Oh, just bring it to the local recovery service and they'll get all your data back for $9.95. NOT -- John Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Mouse in X w/ 5.3
> Maybe tweaking the configuration of mouse in X would solve the > problem. Does this problem appear if no X is running as well? Well I googled my mouse, and found a bug report and several questions, but no solutions to the problem. I'm sure it's doable, but I don't want to spend the time with it right now. The PS/2 mouse that doesn't work is from another system anyway. I have a spare serial mouse around, so I'll use it. What do I need to do in the X config file to set up the serial mouse as opposed to PS/2? > take a look at ports: > /ust/ports/ if you installed them.. > www.freebsd.org/ports/ > You can use either ports (source-code based, you compile them > locally) or packages (binary based, faster bethod but not that > much configurable) Okay, I have ports installed... but... um... now what? tehe. I've never used Gentoo, so I'm at a loss. How do I go about installing those packages... Thanx, SigmaX ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 03:51:01PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Colin J. Raven writes: > > CJR> Eh? Surely you don't meant trashed - physically annihilated? > > Absolutely. That's the only safe way to protect data. Any disk drive > with platters that are even remotely intact can still be read. > > I have yet to throw away any disk drives for this reason (can't find a > convenient place to have them destroyed). Most disks nowadays use a metallic surface as the magnetic medium. If you're really paranoid about destroying the data on the drive, then heating it up beyond it's Curie temperature should do the trick. For iron the Curie temperature is 1043K (or 770 degC) -- other ferromagnetic metals should be in the same ball park. Thus heating the disk platters until they glow red-hot (about 800 degC) should be enough to wipe any magnetic data on them. You can achieve that sort of temperature readily enough using a good bed of charcoal and a bellows, or you might be able to use a butane powered blow-torch. But on the whole, unless you're dealing with people's confidential medical information or with state secrets why got to that degree of expense? Just overwrite the data with a series of different patterns of 1s and 0s, which will be sufficient to render the data unrecoverable for all practical purposes and send the drives for scrap. If you're really paranoid, you might render the drives definitively unsable by drilling a hole through them as well as overwriting. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 8 Dane Court Manor School Rd PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Tilmanstone Tel: +44 1304 617253 Kent, CT14 0JL UK pgp26hCE8Lcos.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: pdflib for php
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Matthew Seaman > Sent: donderdag 20 januari 2005 15:15 > To: Chris Hodgins > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: pdflib for php > > Yes -- it's just waiting for the maintainer to provide an update. There is a very simple patch for this, at: http://www.idefense.com/application/poi/display?id=174&type=vulnerabilities&; flashstatus=true And I applied it, and it works great. No need to disable my whole pdf functionality. :) - Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: /usr/local/etc/rc.d vs /etc/rc.conf question
> >> On my 4.10 box, there is a mysql-server script in > /usr/local/etc/rc.d > >> and nothing > >> in /etc/rc.conf, yet mysql-server starts up a > boot time. > >> Why? (the following is true for 4.x) Check the /etc/defaults/rc.conf file You'll see in there that the default setting for local_startup is "/usr/local/etc/rc.d /usr/X11R6/etc/rc.d" So (as someone else pointed out) if you don't want MySQL to start up, and its script is in one of those default directories, then you'll need to disable that script somehow. Either rename it to not have a .sh extension, or chmod it so it's not executable. __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Torrent Program
On Jan 20, "Warren" wrote: > Im chasing a GUI Torrent program that will allow multiple downloads of > torrents without having to re-open the d/l program for each new torrent. If > anyone knows of such a program please let me know(not QTorrent) I haven't tried this Java client on FBSD, but it claims to run on linux: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Mouse in X w/ 5.3
Okay... got the serial mouse working... just took me a while to figure out the config app was "sysinstall" not "sysconfig" :-P Cheerio, SigmaX ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re[8]: Connection via proxy
MM> Unfortunately, I was still not able to ping the proxy MM> server. I tried pinging by using the name of the MM> server as well as the IP address but neither were MM> successful. Are there any preliminary configurations MM> that should be done prior to connecting to a proxy MM> server or is it simply a matter of connecting the cat MM> 5 cable to the switch, adding the DNS server addresses MM> to /etc/resolv.conf, and configuring the web browser MM> to access the internet? MM> --- Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: Mervin McDougall >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:22 PM >> >> To: Hexren >> >> Cc: freebsd questions >> >> Subject: Re: Re[4]: Connection via proxy >> >> >> >> >> >> tried updating the /etc/resolve.conf with the ips >> of >> >> the nameservers I got from windows XP but got the >> same >> >> results after trying to run mozilla .. that the >> proxy >> >> server could not be found. >> >> >> >> HDA> if you updated /etc/resolve.conf it won't work! >> HDA> drop the 'e' off resolve >> >> HDA> dave >> >> >> >> >> --- Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > MM> the laptop is a dual boot running windows >> XP on >> >> > one >> >> > MM> slice and Freebsd 5.3 on another slice. >> >> > >> >> > MM> I tried pinging the proxy server but got >> this >> >> > error >> >> > MM> message >> >> > >> >> > MM> can't resolve proxy.uvi.edu host name look >> up >> >> > failure >> >> > MM> proxy.uvi.edu being the name of the proxy >> server >> >> > >> >> > MM> --- Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >> MM> Can you identify some other tests as >> well I >> >> > >> could >> >> > >> MM> possible run other than pinging as I am >> going >> >> > to >> >> > >> have >> >> > >> MM> to reboot on each occurence to try see >> if >> >> > >> freebsd can >> >> > >> MM> see that server and connect to it >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> - >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> You can ping the Proxy from the Notebook >> ? >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> Hexren >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> - >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Your message doesn't parse. Why do you have >> to >> >> > >> reboot the machine ? Each >> >> > >> time ? >> >> > >> I just wanted to know, if at the point where >> >> > mozilla >> >> > >> says it >> >> > >> can't find the proxy you can ping the proxy >> using >> >> > >> DNS name or IP. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Regards (I really should look up some nice >> way to >> >> > >> finish a mail in >> >> > >> english) >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Hexren >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > MM> __ >> >> > MM> Do you Yahoo!? >> >> > MM> Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So >> do we. >> >> > >> >> > MM> http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail >> >> > MM> >> ___ >> >> > MM> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> >> > MM> >> >> > >> >> >> MM> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> >> > MM> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> >> > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> >> > >> >> > - >> >> > I would guess that you haven't configured DNS >> under >> >> > FreeBSD. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Lookup the nameserver you use with WinXP. >> >> > (Start->Run type "cmd" in >> >> > the shell opening type "ipconfig /all") >> >> > >> >> > Then insert that DNS server into your >> >> > /etc/resolv.conf under FreeBSD >> >> > The line should look like >> >> > "nameserver > here>" >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Hexren >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> __ >> >> Do you Yahoo!? >> >> Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. >> >> http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail >> >> ___ >> >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/free> >> bsd-questions >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> >> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> >> >> HDA> ___ >> HDA> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> HDA> >> MM> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> HDA> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> >> - >> >> may sound like repetition. But can you ping the ip >> of the nameserver ? >> >> Hexren >> >> ___ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> MM> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> MM> __ MM> Do you Yahoo!? MM> Yahoo! Mail - 25
Re[8]: Connection via proxy
> Unfortunately, I was still not able to ping the proxy > server. I tried pinging by using the name of the > server as well as the IP address but neither were > successful. Are there any preliminary configurations > that should be done prior to connecting to a proxy > server or is it simply a matter of connecting the cat > 5 cable to the switch, adding the DNS server addresses > to /etc/resolv.conf, and configuring the web browser > to access the internet? > --- Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: Mervin McDougall >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:22 PM >> >> To: Hexren >> >> Cc: freebsd questions >> >> Subject: Re: Re[4]: Connection via proxy >> >> >> >> >> >> tried updating the /etc/resolve.conf with the ips >> of >> >> the nameservers I got from windows XP but got the >> same >> >> results after trying to run mozilla .. that the >> proxy >> >> server could not be found. >> >> >> >> HDA> if you updated /etc/resolve.conf it won't work! >> HDA> drop the 'e' off resolve >> >> HDA> dave >> >> >> >> >> --- Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > MM> the laptop is a dual boot running windows >> XP on >> >> > one >> >> > MM> slice and Freebsd 5.3 on another slice. >> >> > >> >> > MM> I tried pinging the proxy server but got >> this >> >> > error >> >> > MM> message >> >> > >> >> > MM> can't resolve proxy.uvi.edu host name look >> up >> >> > failure >> >> > MM> proxy.uvi.edu being the name of the proxy >> server >> >> > >> >> > MM> --- Hexren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >> MM> Can you identify some other tests as >> well I >> >> > >> could >> >> > >> MM> possible run other than pinging as I am >> going >> >> > to >> >> > >> have >> >> > >> MM> to reboot on each occurence to try see >> if >> >> > >> freebsd can >> >> > >> MM> see that server and connect to it >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> - >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> You can ping the Proxy from the Notebook >> ? >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> Hexren >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> - >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Your message doesn't parse. Why do you have >> to >> >> > >> reboot the machine ? Each >> >> > >> time ? >> >> > >> I just wanted to know, if at the point where >> >> > mozilla >> >> > >> says it >> >> > >> can't find the proxy you can ping the proxy >> using >> >> > >> DNS name or IP. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Regards (I really should look up some nice >> way to >> >> > >> finish a mail in >> >> > >> english) >> >> > >> >> >> > >> Hexren >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > MM> __ >> >> > MM> Do you Yahoo!? >> >> > MM> Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So >> do we. >> >> > >> >> > MM> http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail >> >> > MM> >> ___ >> >> > MM> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> >> > MM> >> >> > >> >> >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> >> > MM> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> >> > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> >> > >> >> > - >> >> > I would guess that you haven't configured DNS >> under >> >> > FreeBSD. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Lookup the nameserver you use with WinXP. >> >> > (Start->Run type "cmd" in >> >> > the shell opening type "ipconfig /all") >> >> > >> >> > Then insert that DNS server into your >> >> > /etc/resolv.conf under FreeBSD >> >> > The line should look like >> >> > "nameserver > here>" >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Hexren >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> __ >> >> Do you Yahoo!? >> >> Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. >> >> http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail >> >> ___ >> >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/free> >> bsd-questions >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> >> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> >> >> HDA> ___ >> HDA> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> HDA> >> > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> HDA> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> >> - >> >> may sound like repetition. But can you ping the ip >> of the nameserver ? >> >> Hexren >> Hi, can you please send the output of the following commands to the list. ifconfig netstat -r mfg X3K6A2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Mrs. Butterworth vs Vermont Maid
What is this subject? - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Creator of 4.4 BSD
Just in case somebody cares, "The Art Of Unix Programming" by Eric S. Raymond contains a very detailed description of the history of Unix, BSD and Linux. In my opinion, that chapter alone makes the book worth reading. Kind regards, Benjamin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: OpenOffice doesn't seem to want to accept spanish key mapings
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:38:11 -0600, eculp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OpenOffice doesn't seem to want to accept spanish key mappings. I can't get > openoffice to accept dead key mappings that are used to create accents. > > Could someone who is using spanish, french, italian, portuguese give me a > hint as to what they do? Every other program that I use does. > > Thanks, > > ed > > This is current with openoffice 1.1.4 both es and english versions. I have a config much like yours (except my OO is english only), and I set my keyboard map to Brazilian (I'm Brazilian and my first language is Portuguese), the dead keys work flawlessly. The enviroment I use is KDE, and I don't use its keyboard mapping feature. The relevant section of my xorg.conf: Section "InputDevice" Identifier "Keyboard1" Driver "keyboard" Option "AutoRepeat" "200 30" Option "XkbRules" "xfree86" Option "XkbModel" "abnt2" Option "XkbLayout" "br" EndSection My .login_conf is also properly configured for the Brazilian charset (iso-8859-1), as follows: me:\ :charset=iso-8859-1:\ :lang=pt_BR.ISO8859-1:\ :lc_all=pt_BR.ISO8859-1:\ :lc_ctype=pt_BR.ISO8859-1:\ :lc_messages=pt_BR.ISO8859-1:\ :lc_collate=pt_BR.ISO8859-1:\ :lc_monetary=pt_BR.ISO8859-1:\ :lc_numeric=pt_BR.ISO8859-1:\ :lc_time=pt_BR.ISO8859-1:\ charset=latin1: Hope this sheds some light upon your problem ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
named[604]: *** POKED TIMER ***
Greetings.. I am running FreeBSD 5.3 on dual Xeon 3GHz box and today i got a line in my messages, which goes: named[604]: *** POKED TIMER *** I've searched the web but i could not find what this means. Could anyone help me? Is this a bug? Thanks in advance. Martin ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: Torrent Program
Bittornado is in the ports Works fine and doesn't require linux and java and god knows what else to run. > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hunter > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 5:35 PM > To: Warren > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Torrent Program > > On Jan 20, "Warren" wrote: > > > Im chasing a GUI Torrent program that will allow multiple > downloads of > > torrents without having to re-open the d/l program for each new > > torrent. If anyone knows of such a program please let me know(not > > QTorrent) > > I haven't tried this Java client on FBSD, but it claims to > run on linux: > > http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
RE: need help
You can google it, there're many articles. Breifly answer your question: 1. Compile kernel to support ipfw (firewall). 2. Edit /etc/sysctl.conf add "net.inet.ip.forwarding=1" for routing. Good luck. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of angelito munez Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 10:49 AM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: need help Hi,.. I just formatted freeBSD4.9. i want it run as a router and a firewall. does anybody out here can help me out.. and commands do i want.. from complete to become a sevver.. thanks.. - Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' ___ freebsd-net@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-net To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Anthony Atkielski > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 3:51 PM > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > Subject: *** SPAMMY *** Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU > > Colin J. Raven writes: > > CJR> Eh? Surely you don't meant trashed - physically annihilated? > > Absolutely. That's the only safe way to protect data. Any > disk drive with platters that are even remotely intact can > still be read. > > I have yet to throw away any disk drives for this reason > (can't find a convenient place to have them destroyed). > I find installing windows on them does the trick ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Torrent Program
Mike Hunter wrote: On Jan 20, "Warren" wrote: Im chasing a GUI Torrent program that will allow multiple downloads of torrents without having to re-open the d/l program for each new torrent. If anyone knows of such a program please let me know(not QTorrent) I haven't tried this Java client on FBSD, but it claims to run on linux: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/ ports/net/azureus -- Jeremy Faulkner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: dns question
I think it depends upon the registrar. Of the 200 domains, they are probably registered across 2 or 3 registrars. Some ask for just the host name, while others ask for both hostname and IP. Jeff. On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:14:01 +, Dick Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Jeff MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [0157 12:57]: > > Not really a freebsdquestion specifically. > > > > My company uses > >ns.foo.com and ns1.foo.com for primay/secondary dns, about 200 > > domains rely on these. > > > > We want a new physical machine , in a different location, with a > > different IP to be our secondary dns. lets call it www.jerky.com ip = > > 244.233.222.211 imaginary.. > > > Can I just make ns1.foo.com point to the new ip address, and update > > the registrar with the new ip for ns1.foo.com, and here's the kicker > > > > _ NOT have to worry about changing the secondary dns info for all 200 > > other domains _ > > Is the second NS server listed in the domain by hostname? > If so, you'll be alright. > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > -- > 'When you have to kill a man it costs nothing to be polite.' > -- Winston Churchill, On formal declarations of war > Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns > -- Jeff MacDonald http://www.halifaxbudolife.ca ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Thread Scheduling
While reading The Design and Implementation of FreeBSD I came across the section on thread scheduling. At the present time I am only testing FreeBSD on a single processor system, but will be moving to an SMP once I complete building it. Now it says that since FreeBSD 5.0 the /sys/kern/sched_ule.c along with the historic 4.4BSD scheduler is available to be used at the time the kernel is built. My question is, will I notice any performance improvement by using the new scheduler opposed to the 4.4BSD scheduler on an SMP system and can the new scheduler be utilized on a single processor system? The intended use of the SMP system is for MySQL databases only. Note: I'm far from a C or kernel guru so if anyone replies please respond in a manner a noobie to C would understand. Regards Gardner ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
snapshots, soft update inconsistency
I've got some filesystem problems on my /usr partition. Cause: power failures caused by TWO exploding transformers I restarted in single-user mode and fsck'd all of my partitions. Everything looked fine. I've got a handful of zero-length files that I can't fix. "Bad file descriptor". I've tried `ls -i` to get the inode number so I can delete the files via find. ls doesn't work -- it just returns "Bad file descriptor". I then had the bright idea of making a snapshot and running fsck against it. I got a few hundred lines of "unexpected soft update inconsistency". I didn't have fsck repair anything against the snapshot; I just wanted to see what the output was. Should I: a) run fsck against the snapshot and let it fix things b) go back to single-user mode and run fsck c) do something else I'm sure that booting into single-user mode is the best idea, however, I'd prefer not to do that if possible -- the machine is up and running and doing it's thing fairly well at the moment. I still have the undeleteable zero-length file problem, and any suggestions would be appreciated. I think it's probably wise to handle the larger problem first. Thanks. -- Jay. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Torrent Program
Torrentflux.com. I use this wonderful product. Got some great features. On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:25:50 +1000, Warren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Im chasing a GUI Torrent program that will allow multiple downloads of > torrents without having to re-open the d/l program for each new torrent. If > anyone knows of such a program please let me know(not QTorrent) > -- > Yours Sincerely > Shinjii > http://www.shinji.nq.nu > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
John wrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 03:52:29PM +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Colin J. Raven writes: CJR> I always thought that formatting/fdisk'ing twice completely erased CJR> *permanently* whatever had been on the disc. Information can be recovered from disks even after a dozen or more overwrites. The data is never safe with the platters intact. Good gosh, what are you people doing on your machines - designing weapons systems? What what you are all saying is TRUE, it is not TRIVIAL. After a "security erase" on a disk drive, or a full over-write, it takes increasingly sophisticated levels of lab equipement and environments to do the sort of things that you are describing - including disassembly and clean-room stuff. In otherwords, someone has to be willing to invest at least a few hundred dollars (if it has simply been overwritten) to several THOUSAND dollars to do these sorts of recoveries, and some patience, because it takes TIME, and often, like million-year-old DNA, there are gaps that need to be reconstructed. What do you folks have on your hard drives that is worth thousands of dollars and weeks of time for someone to recover? If it was as easy as you describe, we'd rarely need backups. Your disk drive crash? Oh, just bring it to the local recovery service and they'll get all your data back for $9.95. NOT Sorry, this spun of from my initial post about destroying harddrives before donating old machines. Many larger companies have a fixed upgrading schedule, a pc lives 3 years. But for many people, schools and developing countries such a pc is absolutely not dead. In most cases the average home pc will not be worth throwing that amount of money to recover data, and hence nor will it be worth to go through all that trouble to destroy data. However, it has happened that pc's donated (this was the topic) to schools or to developing countries by companies or government institu- tions still contained confidential data, personal data or industrial secrets, that were recovered and revealed against the will of the original owner. My consideration was that it might be cheaper to donate such pc's with new harddrives rather than go through the trouble to overwrite the disk to destroy data properly. If you are paranoid about your home pc you keep secret data on an encrypted partition. One should however, not neglect that most home pc's contain confidential or personal information such as credit card numbers, passwords and embarrasing photos. In case you didn't find the top of where this discussion span of, I hope this clears things up. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
Erik Norgaard writes: EN> Many larger companies have a fixed upgrading schedule, a pc lives 3 EN> years. One must wonder why. After all, they don't rebuild their offices every three years (although some seem to replace company cars fairly quickly--but mostly due to wear and tear, I presume, which is not much of a factor with PCs). EN> My consideration was that it might be cheaper to donate such pc's with EN> new harddrives rather than go through the trouble to overwrite the disk EN> to destroy data properly. If one can be confident that the drive will not be opened, it's probably safe to just wipe the drive with overwrites. Getting any but the most recent information off the drive usually requires opening it (although some drives allow calibration that might get around this). Unfortunately, most people will probably need Windows on the machine, and unless they happen to have an old copy of Windows around to install, an older PC may not be fast enough to suit them. Of course, if they want FreeBSD, no problem. -- Anthony ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: usbd: Executing umount: Device not configured
On Wed, 2005-01-19 at 21:41 -0500, Alexander Anderson wrote: > Greetings all, > > I have a Sony DSC-P32 digital camera with a USB interface. I can't get > usbd to unmount the camera when it's disconnected, powered off, or > detached. > > I have to remember to execute umount(8) manually before the camera is > physically disconnected, or else it stays mounted to a stale device forever > (which makes it impossible to use the camera again until a reboot), and an > attempt to forcibly unmount the stale device causes the kernel to panic. > > The relevant entry in /etc/usbd.conf: > > device "Sony DSC" > vendor 0x054c > product 0x0010 > attach "sleep 1 ; /sbin/mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/camera" > detach "/sbin/umount /dev/da0s1" > > It mounts without problems. But when I disconnect the camera, here's what > I see (the output was obtained from usbd -dvv): > > umass0: at uhub1 port 1 (addr 2) disconnected > (da0:umass-sim0:0:0:0): lost device > umass0: detached > usbd: processing event queue on /dev/usb > usbd: device-detach event at 1106184871.250725000, DSC cameras, Sony: > vndr=0x054c prdct=0x0010 rlse=0x0450 clss=0x subclss=0x prtcl=0x > usbd: Found action 'Sony DSC' for DSC cameras, Sony > usbd: action 0: Sony DSC > vndr=0x054c prdct=0x0010 > attach='sleep 1 ; /sbin/mount_msdosfs /dev/da0s1 /mnt/camera' > detach='/sbin/umount /dev/da0s1' > usbd: Executing '/sbin/umount /dev/da0s1' > umount: unmount of /mnt/camera failed: Device not configured > usbd: '/sbin/umount /dev/da0s1' returned 1 > > Not so long ago upgraded from 4.9-RELEASE to 5.3-RELEASE, and this > configuration used to work before, but not now. > > I'm wondering if usbd can execute the detach command before the special > device has disappeared, not after the fact, as it seems to be. > > And I'm also wondering, why does "/sbin/umount -f /dev/da0s1" when > /dev/da0s1 does not exist cause a kernel panic? Though, I wouldn't care > about it if all worked without this hitch. Ummm, your mount point is /mnt/camera. The command should be umount /mnt/camera ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: different behaviour between 4.x and 5.x (ping response/disk io) [was Re: ]
stheg olloydson wrote: Glad to be of help. Raidframe had been ported to FBSD 5.x, but it was removed because kernel changes broke it, and no one volunteered to fix it. I think gvinum replaced vinum in 5.3 for the same reason. I don't use software raid, so I don't really know. It's a pity that raidframe didn't make it into FreeBSD. It seems to be faster than (g)vinum at least for me. I tried gvinum because i wanted to look on gdbe but it didn't seem to be ripe. It lacked several options from "gvinum help" and if used not carefully enough it would crash the whole machine. On the other hand vinum seems to be very stable but hasn't GEOM support. But NBSD 2.0 is very nice. A company that I do consulting for has just chosen it as the OS for a new embedded product in their pipeline. I've been toying with the idea of idea of web-enabling my toaster by hooking up temperature sensors and a camera, so web surfers could make toast at my house. Good idea, maybe i should install NetBSD in my hair-drier and have the web crowd decide wether my hairs will be dry or wet. :) I was going to use a 8051 chip and write the code, but maybe I'll use NBSD on an embedded board. (Someday, I may want to add the sprinkler system, pool pump,) A fully controllable house is very nice but it either means a lot of work or a lot of money. It's also quite difficult to "upgrade" an old house because all the walls and floors would have to be ripped open in order to install cabling. P.S. (to the list in general) Why do all of the questions about FBSD performance, especially 4.x vs 5.x, come from people posting from Windows boxes? Theories? In my case i'm using windows because it's pre-installed on the laptop i use and i never had luck with *bsd/linux on the desktop (and especially laptops). This was meant as a humorous question because of certain Windows users' not well-reasoned or -argued posts on this very topic in the last few days. Trolls are really a plague but i think it's quite calm on this list in regard to some Internet panels. Anyway i hope nobody thought that i'm trolling. :) Different tools for different jobs. Although, in the thread you referenced, you said you were having major SMP problems with NBSD. I hope you get those sorted. Those, I would think, are worse than any network and vinum performance problems. In any event you may wish to check back when 5.4 is released. (No release schedule yet.) There are some more points that made me stick with NetBSD and maybe i'll want to come back to FreeBSD when 5.4 is out. However i think that development for NetBSD will make advances too. What SMP, NetBSD and FreeBSD concerns i have to say that i know much more now than when i wrote to the NetBSD mailing list. I made some assumptions back then which proved to be wrong. Somebody gave me the hint to have a look at "sysstat vmstat" and i saw that the interrupts grew to an high number on disk i/o. It went a little bit smoother without SMP. I couldn't remember that FreeBSD did so, thus i assumed that it performed better. Checking it again exposed that there was almost the same interrupt behaviour. My apologies for writing emails with unevaluated statements. You're welcome and see you on the 'net. stheg Best Wishes, Jochen Keil ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance
Just joined an ISP that has agreed to provide residential DSL service. Their service is normally limited to commercial operations but they made the offer based on the fact that my OS was FreeBSD. At this stage we have determined that only one of three phone jacks in my apartment is able to sync-up with the DSL. The options, thus far, are to fix the inside phone wiring or install a wireless router. I know little about wireless routers but have started some research and will continue. However, thought I would also touch base with the mailing list to see what information/experience members are willing to pass along. Would appreciate it you would direct me to relevant resource material for further review. If you have the time, please respond with your thoughts re hardware/software, installation, stability, and security issues as they relate to wireless routers and FreeBSD. I also just purchased the 5.3 CD set and will replace my 4.9 box with it. Thanks, Bob Perry -- I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly distributed. FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
On Thu, 2005-01-20 at 16:17 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > Assuming one doesn't have the resources to do this, what might one do to > secure disk drives before disposal. I live in Kona on the "Big Island of Hawai`i". One mile from shore the water is over 4000 feet. Send your hard drives and $5 US and I will take care of it. :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
Robert Marella wrote: On Thu, 2005-01-20 at 16:17 +0100, Anthony Atkielski wrote: Assuming one doesn't have the resources to do this, what might one do to secure disk drives before disposal. I live in Kona on the "Big Island of Hawai`i". One mile from shore the water is over 4000 feet. Send your hard drives and $5 US and I will take care of it. :-) Don't you have a vulcano? :-) Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
[INFO]Nvidia Driver information
For the people with nvidia graphic cards some information on somethings that I have noticed. I have a Elsa Gloria II which is based on the RIVA/TNT II chip set by Nvidia. The Nvidia driver works fine for me except in the following conditions. 1) I had a PCI usb card that I placed in the machine. The card has a OPTi chip set. For some reason this cause the Nvidia driver to lock up the machine. When I swithced to the Xorg driver no lock ups. I removed the card and switched back to the Nvidia driver and everything was fine. 2) This one I have found no work around or even have a clue as to why it does it, but if I use the line In on my sound card to transfer music from tape to cd it locks up. I don't even need to try anything other that pluging in the line in?? My machine is an HP Visualize X-Class PIII with sound on board. I use the css driver, I believe that is Crystal. I'm just passing this along in that it my help some one figure out why the driver works for some and not for others. -- Rod "If you stay the same long enough you'll be in style some day again." Cren Dog ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: FreeBSD I LOVE YOU
On Thu, Jan 20, 2005 at 04:17:50PM +, Jason Henson wrote: > Here is an interview with ati. The sad part is they give a solid no to > bsd support. Oh, that's not a problem, their drivers suck anyway. At least I wouldn't like to have them on one of my machines. cu, Uwe ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance
FWIW, stay away from Linksys if you can help it. I used to love them for basic stuff, but once I wanted to do more advanced stuff like bridging and having "Client APs", i hit all kinds of problems...even getting 2 identical APs to talk to each other. I've gotten D-Link every since and been happy. I haven't tried Linksys since Cisco has taken over and help them fix some of their products, but I don't know that it's worth the risk. On that note, you can also get a Cisco solution if you have the money (separate router and AP)...but sometimes it's just not worth it. I just got at NewEgg, a DLink 802.11g pack with a "wireless router" and PCMCIA NIC, with their "Super G" or whatever it's called technology, for 98 bux...something to consider. --Brian On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 15:37:07 -0500, Bob Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just joined an ISP that has agreed to provide residential DSL service. > Their service is normally limited to commercial operations but they > made the offer based on the fact that my OS was FreeBSD. > > At this stage we have determined that only one of three phone jacks > in my apartment is able to sync-up with the DSL. The options, thus far, > are to fix the inside phone wiring or install a wireless router. > > I know little about wireless routers but have started some research and will > continue. However, thought I would also touch base with the mailing list > to see what information/experience members are willing to pass along. > > Would appreciate it you would direct me to relevant resource material for > further review. If you have the time, please respond with your thoughts re > hardware/software, installation, stability, and security issues as they > relate to wireless routers and FreeBSD. > > I also just purchased the 5.3 CD set and will replace my 4.9 box with it. > > Thanks, > > Bob Perry > > -- > I've learned that whatever hits the fan will not be evenly > distributed. > > FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p2 #0 > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
Re: Basic Info on Wireless Router Installation and Performance
Bob Perry wrote: Just joined an ISP that has agreed to provide residential DSL service. Their service is normally limited to commercial operations but they made the offer based on the fact that my OS was FreeBSD. Cool At this stage we have determined that only one of three phone jacks in my apartment is able to sync-up with the DSL. The options, thus far, are to fix the inside phone wiring or install a wireless router. I know little about wireless routers but have started some research and will continue. However, thought I would also touch base with the mailing list to see what information/experience members are willing to pass along. Would appreciate it you would direct me to relevant resource material for further review. If you have the time, please respond with your thoughts re hardware/software, installation, stability, and security issues as they relate to wireless routers and FreeBSD. OK, I need a diagram, I am having the same thoughts, my network will be like this: +-AP)) | INET --- ADSL-router FBSD gw ---+-AP)) | My plan is to let the AP's be plain and stupid and let FBSD do the work, is this what you are thinking about? Really, than the AP works more like a switch and the FBSD gw is the router doing NAT and internat access control. O'Reily has two books that might interest you, one on 802.11 security goes through setup for Linux Free and OpenBSD based hosts and gateways, the other on building wireless community networks. The first book is far the most interesting. The other get lost in antennas, polarization and stuff and just doesn't cover much about how to extend the network beyond the reach of the first AP. Cheers, Erik -- Ph: +34.666334818 web: http://www.locolomo.org S/MIME Certificate: http://www.locolomo.org/crt/2004071206.crt Subject ID: A9:76:7A:ED:06:95:2B:8D:48:97:CE:F2:3F:42:C8:F2:22:DE:4C:B9 Fingerprint: 4A:E8:63:38:46:F6:9A:5D:B4:DC:29:41:3F:62:D3:0A:73:25:67:C2 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
