Re: bitdefender port failing to start

[Adi Pircalabu]

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 12:02:16 -0500
"Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've just installed the latest bitdefender port, updated it then
> tried a scan. I used:
> bdc /
> and bdc / --files
> both cases i got the following error:
> 
> error: core initialization failed: Libfn initialization failed

Hi, it is a known issue, libfn.so was accidentally linked against
libm.so.2
You must install misc/compat4x to fix the problem.
Please keep me posted, thanks

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Re: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

[Doug Hardie]

Not surprising.  Gates and Microsoft didn't develop DOS.  They bought  
it.



On Nov 2, 2005, at 20:27, Moffatt, Chris wrote:

It is a reserved word from the DOS days (like "prn")  I think it  
stands for

"console"

Actually, you can't create a folder named:

CON, PRN, AUX, CLOCK$, NUL, COM1, COM2, COM3, COM4, COM5, COM6,  
COM7, COM8,

COM9, LPT1, LPT2, LPT3, LPT4, LPT5, LPT6, LPT7, LPT8, and LPT9



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Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 8:31 PM
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Subject: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

An Indian discovered that nobody can create a FOLDER anywhere named as
"con".
This is something pretty cool...and unbelievable...
At Microsoft the whole Team, including Bill Gates, couldn't answer  
why this

happened!
Try it out yourself...
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Re: New Logo

[Peter Clutton]

On 11/2/05, Ted Mittelstaedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:15 PM
> >To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> >Cc: Free BSD Questions list
> >Subject: Re: New Logo
> >
> >
> >On Tuesday,  1 November 2005 at 21:48:57 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> >> [missing attribution to Greg Lehey]
> >>> On Tuesday,  1 November 2005 at 14:15:30 -0800, Ted
> >Mittelstaedt wrote:
>  On  Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:32 PM, Chad Leigh  wrote:
>
> >> And I suspect the majority of people are of the same mind.  Quite
> >> obviously, the boot-lickers of the conservative right don't understand
> >> this
> >> - my choice of language was intended to knock some sense in to them.

> Greg, I don't know why I bother even trying to be nice to you, you
> can be such a puffed up crumb when you want to be.
>
> >And now would you please shut up?

> >Yes, there are others on the list who are behaving just as badly as
> >you.
>
> Your opinion, they probably wouldn't agree.  If you decide Beastie isn't
> important enough to bother defending, that's your choice.  Of course I
> will note that you had no problem getting the attention for your books
> by using Beastie images on their covers.

You are embarrassing yourself. Greg is a great contributor to freebsd,
who also just made probably the first mature post on this topic.
Making it a personal attack makes you look like a baby.

I hope some of the people acting the same way aren't representative of
the freebsd community. So much is said about the mature community of
freebsd and so much derision often directed to linux script kiddies.
Well this post makes me long to read a list of slashdot replies.

And if you're referring using the beastie on his book The Complete
FreeBSD, I hardly think it was responsible for it's success. Might
have something to do with being one of the best books on FreeBSD
sysadmin out there at the moment. Can't comment on his other books,
haven't read them.

Anyway I'm sure he could defend himself, not that he needs to. The
point is, why is everyone making things personal? Like a personal
attack on the artist who made the logo? If you don't like a piece of
art, or music, it doesn't mean the artist or composer is a loser, it's
just your personal opinion. If you say you don't like it, people
respect your opinion. If you make an unnecessary, scathing, frothing
at the mouth personal attack, people realise you must have some vested
interest that makes you so critical.
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RE: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

[Haulmark, Chris]

>
> >
> > An Indian discovered that nobody can create a FOLDER anywhere named
as
> > "con".
> > This is something pretty cool...and unbelievable...
> > At Microsoft the whole Team, including Bill Gates, couldn't answer
why
> > this happened!
> > Try it out yourself...
> 
> It's confirmed that it is correct on Windows XP with SP2 installed.
> 
> Amazing.
> 
> Chris

Just found a reference link to this:

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/e
n-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-u
s/prkc_fil_rbrx.asp

Chris

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RE: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

[Haulmark, Chris]

> 
> An Indian discovered that nobody can create a FOLDER anywhere named as
> "con".
> This is something pretty cool...and unbelievable...
> At Microsoft the whole Team, including Bill Gates, couldn't answer why
> this happened!
> Try it out yourself...

It's confirmed that it is correct on Windows XP with SP2 installed.

Amazing.

Chris

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RE: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

[Moffatt, Chris]

It is a reserved word from the DOS days (like "prn")  I think it stands for
"console"

Actually, you can't create a folder named:

CON, PRN, AUX, CLOCK$, NUL, COM1, COM2, COM3, COM4, COM5, COM6, COM7, COM8,
COM9, LPT1, LPT2, LPT3, LPT4, LPT5, LPT6, LPT7, LPT8, and LPT9



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Subject: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

An Indian discovered that nobody can create a FOLDER anywhere named as
"con".
This is something pretty cool...and unbelievable...
At Microsoft the whole Team, including Bill Gates, couldn't answer why this
happened!
Try it out yourself...
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Re: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

[Andrew P.]

On 11/3/05, Aggelos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> An Indian discovered that nobody can create a FOLDER anywhere named as
> "con".
> This is something pretty cool...and unbelievable...
> At Microsoft the whole Team, including Bill Gates, couldn't answer why
> this happened!
> Try it out yourself...
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"con" is the name of a device in windoze. Is this
really funny? There are lots of other legacy names,
like prn, lpt, etc... Let's laugh at each and every
one of them.
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RE: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

[Moffatt, Chris]

 It is a reserved word from the DOS days (like "prn")  I think it stands for
"console"

Actually, you can't create a folder named:

CON, PRN, AUX, CLOCK$, NUL, COM1, COM2, COM3, COM4, COM5, COM6, COM7, COM8,
COM9, LPT1, LPT2, LPT3, LPT4, LPT5, LPT6, LPT7, LPT8, and LPT9



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Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 8:31 PM
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

An Indian discovered that nobody can create a FOLDER anywhere named as
"con".
This is something pretty cool...and unbelievable...
At Microsoft the whole Team, including Bill Gates, couldn't answer why this
happened!
Try it out yourself...
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Re: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

[Antony Mawer]

On 3/11/2005 2:31 PM, Aggelos wrote:

An Indian discovered that nobody can create a FOLDER anywhere named as
"con".
This is something pretty cool...and unbelievable...
At Microsoft the whole Team, including Bill Gates, couldn't answer why
this happened!


I find it hard no one at Microsoft could answer why that was the case. 
That harks back to the DOS days, where "con" used to refer to the the 
console (ala STDIN). You'd be able to create a text file containing what 
you typed by doing:


copy con file.txt

This still works today on Windows XP.

And yes, this was completely and utterly offtopic.

-Antony

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Re: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY - fsck

[Derek]

John wrote:

pid 22 (fsck), uid 0: exited on signal 11 Segmentation fault #


And what's happend if you reboot and do this again ?



This happens every time I reboot, same messages, if I just do a fsck (no -y)
and answer no to this Clear? question, I get a second, similar  BAD/DUP FILE
I= 3219137 ...



It might be worth while if you can get a second disk, to do a dump, or
dd of the first disk over to it, and then trying to fsck with a newer
version on the copy (so you can go back if you need to).

FreeSBIE would be an ideal choice for this:

http://www.freesbie.org

(eg.  put the two disks in a machine, boot from the FreeSBIE CD, copy
the one disk over, fsck the copy, and then try and boot the copy).

I suspect you'll need to use dd because of the filesystem corruption.

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OFF-TOPIC but ... you will laugh !!

[Aggelos]

An Indian discovered that nobody can create a FOLDER anywhere named as
"con".
This is something pretty cool...and unbelievable...
At Microsoft the whole Team, including Bill Gates, couldn't answer why
this happened!
Try it out yourself...
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Re: Upgrading 4.11-STABLE to 5.4-STABLE

[Chuck Swiger]

Steve Bertrand wrote:
I want to upgrade my 4.11-STABLE server to 5.4-STABLE. I'm 
very used to using cvsup to upgrade between minor releases 
(IIRC the box was 4.9 or 4.10

originally) but a jump between major versions is scaring me a bit :)


Oddly enough, and a little OT, (but semi-within the topic) I'm trying to
update a 5.0 box to RELENG_5 right now with several different errors,
too many to mention (generally they occur after rebooting after my
installkernel. I can subsequently reboot off of kernel.old, as always).


That's not surprising, if your kernel and userland are too far out of sync, 
lots of things won't work right like ps and ipfw and so forth.  If the kernel 
boots OK into single-user mode, it should be OK to do the installworld.


Anyway, you really don't want to stay with 5.0, even if it takes a reinstall 
from a 5.4 CD to get there  :-)



Since this is only a data box (running Samba), I'm not too worried, as
I'll just reinstall...but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if
there is a better approach to this particular upgrade
(ie...incremental), as well as OP to get us both to STABLE.

Note I also have a real production box at the following with the same
issue, however, it's much more relied apon, so an upgrade as opposed to
rebuild solution would be nice:

FreeBSD pearl.ibctech.ca 4.11-STABLE FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE #4: Fri Jun 24
12:14:21 EDT 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PEARL
i386


Take full backups before you do anything.  The thing is, there is nothing wrong 
with a 4.11 system, either, especially if it is a uni-processor machine.  For 
SMP hardware, I'd be tempted to jump directly to 6.0 or wait for 6.1, rather 
than move to the middle/end of the 5.x releases.


Keeping your ports up-to-date is a bigger concern, but things like portaudit 
and the people working on submitting both security warnings and patches to the 
ports help...


--
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Re: New Logo

[stan]

On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 02:04:11PM -0800, stheg olloydson wrote:
> it was said by stanb:
> 
> >YUK!
> >
> >-- 
> >U.S. Encouraged by Vietnam Vote - Officials Cite 83% Turnout
> >Despite Vietcong Terror 
> >- New York Times 9/3/1967
> 
> Look on the bright side! Everyone expected this to turn out
> badly, and they got more than they expected. Way more.
> 

Isn't that the truth.

-- 
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Terror 
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Re: jre1.1.8 Class not found

[Micah]

Ryan Masse wrote:

I have installed the port 'jre' in which upon trying to execute a java class
I get a class not found error message.  Originally I thought it may be an
issue with the CLASSPATH, however everything is set as it should.

port installed to /usr/local/jre1.1.8

CLASSPATH =
.:/usr/local/jre1.1.8/lib/rt.jar:/usr/local/jre1.1.8/lib/i18n.jar
JAVA_HOME= /usr/local/jre1.1.8

I have a test class which consists of:

public class Hello {
public static void main(String args[]) {
System.out.println("Hello World!");
}
}

It compiles fine to the current directory to Hello.class

I try to execute it via $JAVA_HOME/bin/java Hello but get the class not
found error.

At this point I am at a loss.  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Ryan


1.  Show us the actual error you get.
2.  Even if you just want the JVM you probably are better off installing 
one of the JDKs.  1.1.8 is pretty old, 1.5 is Sun's current version.  I 
assume JRE 1.1.8 is in the ports for legacy reasons only.


Micah
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Re: Script help for updating routine

[Andrew P.]

On 11/2/05, Denny White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
>
> I have a script, pasted in below, which does various
> things on a daily basis, like cvsup src, docs, ports,
> portsdb, portversion, portupgrade, & so on. I finally
> figured out how to do the if/then/else thing with the
> portversion-portupgrade part of the script, but I can't
> figure out what to do to bypass the docs install part
> if there are no new docs. Thanks for any help I can
> get on it. Script follows:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> #
> echo "Cvsup latest src and doc"
> cvsup -g -L 2 /root/srcdoc-supfile
> #
> # THIS THE PART IN QUESTION, THAT DOES
> # DOES THE DOCS. CUSTOM MAKEFILE IS FOR
> # ENGLISH ONLY.
> #G
> #send copious output to the bit bucket
> echo "Updating docs"
> echo ""
> cd /usr/doc
> cp Makefile.custom Makefile
> make install
> #make install > /dev/null
> #
> cd /root
> echo "Portsnap fetching and updating ports"
> echo ""
> portsnap fetch
> portsnap update
> #
> echo "Updating INDEX in /usr/ports"
> echo ""
> cd /usr/ports
> #make fetchindex
> portsdb -uUF
> #
> echo "Portaudit checking for vulnerabilities in installed ports"
> echo "Results in file /root/vulnerable"
> echo ""
> portaudit -Fda >> /root/vulnerable
> #
> echo "Portversion checking if any ports need upgrading"
> echo "Results in file /root/need2upgrade"
> echo ""
> portversion -l "<" > /root/need2upgrade
> if grep '<' /root/need2upgrade; then
> echo "Portupgrade upgrading out-of-date ports"
> portupgrade -arR; else
> echo "Ports already up to date" 1>&2
> exit 1
> fi
> echo "Finished at `/bin/date`."
> exit
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1. You can limit docs to custom languages in
make.conf, that's a better way

2. You can affor to copy extra 60Mb once a day,
can't you?

3. You can grep cvsup output against something
like "doc/"

4. Never run portsnap fetch from cron, even if
you chose a very odd time, use portsnap cron

5. etc :)
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RE: New Logo

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jerry 
>McAllister
>Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 4:31 PM
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: New Logo
>
>
>Folks,
>Re: the new "logo"
>
>Although it may be reasonable to create a FreeBSD logo to supplant 
>the Beastie mascot, unfortunately this thing that has seemingly won 
>a contest is not a logo.   It is really just another mascot, this 
>time with a kind of Pokemon kind of look to it.   
>

We are lucky the only thing that was 'redone' was the head.  Imagine
what the entire body would have ended up looking like! (shudder)

Ted
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Re: New Logo

[Jerry McAllister]

Folks,
Re: the new "logo"

Although it may be reasonable to create a FreeBSD logo to supplant 
the Beastie mascot, unfortunately this thing that has seemingly won 
a contest is not a logo.   It is really just another mascot, this 
time with a kind of Pokemon kind of look to it.   

Now that is fine if you want yet another mascot with a somewhat
different look.   But, if you are looking for a logo to represent
FreeBSD, this doesn't do it.   

It doesn't look rock stable, or powerful.   It doesn't represent a 
server nor a network tool nor a data processor and, despite its Pokemon 
appearance, not even like a game server.   It doesn't have anything
about it that looks like an open source community supported project.

Actually, it makes me think more of that flighty thing they have to 
catch in the Quidich game in Harry Potter, only in a different color.   
Which doesn't represent either stability or service to me, but
rather elusiveness and unmanageability.

So, it's cute, sort of, if you like those sort of things.

But, it is not a _logo_ to represent FreeBSD.

Sorry,

jerryJerry McAllister[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Upgrading 4.11-STABLE to 5.4-STABLE

[Steve Bertrand]

> I want to upgrade my 4.11-STABLE server to 5.4-STABLE. I'm 
> very used to using cvsup to upgrade between minor releases 
> (IIRC the box was 4.9 or 4.10
> originally) but a jump between major versions is scaring me a bit :)
> 

Oddly enough, and a little OT, (but semi-within the topic) I'm trying to
update a 5.0 box to RELENG_5 right now with several different errors,
too many to mention (generally they occur after rebooting after my
installkernel. I can subsequently reboot off of kernel.old, as always).

Since this is only a data box (running Samba), I'm not too worried, as
I'll just reinstall...but I thought I'd throw it out there to see if
there is a better approach to this particular upgrade
(ie...incremental), as well as OP to get us both to STABLE.

Note I also have a real production box at the following with the same
issue, however, it's much more relied apon, so an upgrade as opposed to
rebuild solution would be nice:

FreeBSD pearl.ibctech.ca 4.11-STABLE FreeBSD 4.11-STABLE #4: Fri Jun 24
12:14:21 EDT 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PEARL
i386

Steve

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jre1.1.8 Class not found

[Ryan Masse]

I have installed the port 'jre' in which upon trying to execute a java class
I get a class not found error message.  Originally I thought it may be an
issue with the CLASSPATH, however everything is set as it should.

port installed to /usr/local/jre1.1.8

CLASSPATH =
.:/usr/local/jre1.1.8/lib/rt.jar:/usr/local/jre1.1.8/lib/i18n.jar
JAVA_HOME= /usr/local/jre1.1.8

I have a test class which consists of:

public class Hello {
public static void main(String args[]) {
System.out.println("Hello World!");
}
}

It compiles fine to the current directory to Hello.class

I try to execute it via $JAVA_HOME/bin/java Hello but get the class not
found error.

At this point I am at a loss.  Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Ryan



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RE: New Logo

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

>-Original Message-
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>Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2005 4:50 AM
>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: New Logo
>
>
>
>I think the critism is a bit harsh. Any logo for FreeBSD is 
>going to be an
>lossing battle - how do you please the beastie fans who don't want
>anything radically different, 

>and those that want a more 'professional'
>logo.

Beastie is not an 'unprofessional' logo.

>I think this logo does the job very well,

Obviously.

>all beastie fans can
>immediatly recognise it for what it is,

But, it's uglier than Beastie.  Why trade away a good image of
Beastie for an ugly one?

>while someone who is 
>unaware (i.e.
>the PHB) will only see it as a generic logo.
>

The folks that objected to Beastie are going to object to
this one for the same reasons.  It's red.  It has horns.  It
must be of the Devil.  My God, the wonderful Rush Limbaugh, says so.

Ted
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Re: The best scripts ever (trick or treat)

[Eric F Crist]

On Nov 2, 2005, at 3:09 PM, Gary Kline wrote:


On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 10:47:43PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:

On 2005-11-02 12:42, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 10:14:40PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:


"CATEORY: foo
"FUNCTION: it_does_this
"OPTIONS: can_do_this_or_that"

BEGINSCRIPT
!#/bin/sh
echo "hello world"
ENDSCRIPT


What happens when the script itself contains a line that starts
with one of the special "markup" lines?



AFAIK, the only markup lines this would use would be
the .  A sh script might use the ">" or "<"
for redirection, but the conversion script would ignore
everything between

BEGINSCRIPT
ENDSCRIPT

which would make parsing straightforeward.


Unless the shell script itself contains 'ENDSCRIPT' somewhere ;-)

This is what I was referring to as "markup".


Hmmm!   :-)

Okay, then what about
BEGIN_somelonghexstringthatis256byteslong

and

END_somelonghexstringthatis256byteslong


Dammit!! I was just writing a script that used that exact variable!

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Re: diskless FreeBSD with grub

[Richard Burakowski]

Daniel Hepper wrote:


Hi,

I want to boot diskless into FreeBSD-5.4 with grub.


title bsd-nfsroot
kernel (nd)/kernel/kernel ip=dhcp root=/dev/nfs
nfsroot=141.2.71.253:/dta/fBSD_diskless
boot


It loads the kernel, but does not boot. My guess is that it doesn't find
the root partition.

if you look carefully, it's telling you where it thinks the root 
partition is.  if that looks right, then check your nfs server log.


you have seen the diskless booting howto on freebsd.org (among others) 
and recompiled your kernel for diskless booting? IIRC the kernel goes 
through a second round of querying dhcp for info.

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Re: Kernel boot hangs during installation

[Paulino Calderon]

I still cant get a clue about why it hangs, i got a copy of the 6.0 rc1 and
why i try to install it using boot -v the computer shut down apparently when
it tries to load the acpi.ko, so i i tried using unset acpi_load and boot -v
again, and still i cant get any clue about why it hangs, as soon as i hit
enter the computer freezes...
Any ideas?

Ps: I resent this message bc i accidently changed the subject.
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Re: The best scripts ever (trick or treat)

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On 2005-11-02 13:09, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 10:47:43PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
>>On 2005-11-02 12:42, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 10:14:40PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> BEGINSCRIPT
> !#/bin/sh
> echo "hello world"
> ENDSCRIPT

 What happens when the script itself contains a line that starts
 with one of the special "markup" lines?
>>>
>>> AFAIK, the only markup lines this would use would be
>>> the .  A sh script might use the ">" or "<"
>>> for redirection, but the conversion script would ignore
>>> everything between
>>>
>>> BEGINSCRIPT
>>> ENDSCRIPT
>>>
>>> which would make parsing straightforeward.
>>
>> Unless the shell script itself contains 'ENDSCRIPT' somewhere ;-)
>>
>> This is what I was referring to as "markup".
>
> Hmmm!   :-)
>
> Okay, then what about
> BEGIN_somelonghexstringthatis256byteslong
>
> and
>
> END_somelonghexstringthatis256byteslong

That's an idea.  A simple shar(1) archive could probably work too:

flame:/home/keramida$ shar .forward
# This is a shell archive.  Save it in a file, remove anything before
# this line, and then unpack it by entering "sh file".  Note, it may
# create directories; files and directories will be owned by you and
# have default permissions.
#
# This archive contains:
#
#   .forward
#
echo x - .forward
sed 's/^X//' >.forward << 'END-of-.forward'
X|/usr/local/bin/procmail
END-of-.forward
exit

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Re: Upgrading 4.11-STABLE to 5.4-STABLE

[Chris]

Chris Howells wrote:

Hi,

I want to upgrade my 4.11-STABLE server to 5.4-STABLE. I'm very used to using 
cvsup to upgrade between minor releases (IIRC the box was 4.9 or 4.10 
originally) but a jump between major versions is scaring me a bit :)


Has anybody done this recently. Were there any major problems other than 
mentioned in UPDATING?


I don't particularly want to install from fresh if possible, due to the hassle 
of removing the server from the bottom of the pile (too poor to afford a 
rack ;(), opening the case up and fitting a CD-ROM etc.




Hope this is not too obvious to mention but if your server has a floppy 
drive you could do a net install...


Chris
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Re: The best scripts ever (trick or treat)

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On 2005-11-02 12:42, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 10:14:40PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > >
> > >   "CATEORY: foo
> > >   "FUNCTION: it_does_this
> > >   "OPTIONS: can_do_this_or_that"
> > >
> > >   BEGINSCRIPT
> > >   !#/bin/sh
> > >   echo "hello world"
> > >   ENDSCRIPT
> >
> > What happens when the script itself contains a line that starts
> > with one of the special "markup" lines?
> >
>
>   AFAIK, the only markup lines this would use would be
>   the .  A sh script might use the ">" or "<"
>   for redirection, but the conversion script would ignore
>   everything between
>
>   BEGINSCRIPT
>   ENDSCRIPT
>
>   which would make parsing straightforeward.

Unless the shell script itself contains 'ENDSCRIPT' somewhere ;-)

This is what I was referring to as "markup".

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Re: Upgrading 4.11-STABLE to 5.4-STABLE

[Erik Trulsson]

On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 09:07:25PM +, Chris Howells wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I want to upgrade my 4.11-STABLE server to 5.4-STABLE. I'm very used to using 
> cvsup to upgrade between minor releases (IIRC the box was 4.9 or 4.10 
> originally) but a jump between major versions is scaring me a bit :)
> 
> Has anybody done this recently. Were there any major problems other than 
> mentioned in UPDATING?

In addition to UPDATING you should read
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/5.3R/migration-guide.html which details how
you should upgrade from 4.11 to 5.3.  I don't think there has been any
important changes between 5.3 and 5.4 in this regard.

> 
> I don't particularly want to install from fresh if possible, due to the 
> hassle 
> of removing the server from the bottom of the pile (too poor to afford a 
> rack ;(), opening the case up and fitting a CD-ROM etc.
> 
> -- 
> Cheers, Chris Howells -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP ID: 0x33795A2C
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Re: The best scripts ever (trick or treat)

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On 2005-11-02 12:07, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 09:39:07AM +, Ceri Davies wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 02:20:51PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:
> >
> > >   Let's say we request people submit only their sh script
> > >   (to start).   What would the format need to be so that
> > >   a script could parse email and auto-HTML the script?'
> >
> >  #!/bin/sh --
> >  portinstall squirrelmail
> >
> > Did I win a biscuit? :)
> >
> > Ceri
>
>
>   Would some  gold stars do? :)
>
>   evolution take ASCII and iso.8859-15 text and turns it into
>   HTML too (I think; don't *quote me*).  I have a C prog that
>   I've been using privingly for 11 years that does this and
>   more, but what what I'm thinkg of is a script that would
>   take a posted script and using the KEYWORDS of, say:
>
>   "CATEORY: foo
>   "FUNCTION: it_does_this
>   "OPTIONS: can_do_this_or_that"
>
>   BEGINSCRIPT
>   !#/bin/sh
>   echo "hello world"
>   ENDSCRIPT

What happens when the script itself contains a line that starts
with one of the special "markup" lines?

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Re: Upgrading 4.11-STABLE to 5.4-STABLE

[Kris Kennaway]

On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 09:07:25PM +, Chris Howells wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I want to upgrade my 4.11-STABLE server to 5.4-STABLE. I'm very used to using 
> cvsup to upgrade between minor releases (IIRC the box was 4.9 or 4.10 
> originally) but a jump between major versions is scaring me a bit :)
> 
> Has anybody done this recently. Were there any major problems other than 
> mentioned in UPDATING?

Worked smoothly for me.  You do need console access to boot to
single-user mode.  Don't forget to rebuild all your installed ports
afterwards too (portupgrade -fa or -faP).

Kris


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Upgrading 4.11-STABLE to 5.4-STABLE

[Chris Howells]

Hi,

I want to upgrade my 4.11-STABLE server to 5.4-STABLE. I'm very used to using 
cvsup to upgrade between minor releases (IIRC the box was 4.9 or 4.10 
originally) but a jump between major versions is scaring me a bit :)

Has anybody done this recently. Were there any major problems other than 
mentioned in UPDATING?

I don't particularly want to install from fresh if possible, due to the hassle 
of removing the server from the bottom of the pile (too poor to afford a 
rack ;(), opening the case up and fitting a CD-ROM etc.

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Re: FreeBSD 5.4 on HP ML370 G4

[Albert Shih]

 Le 02/11/2005 à 13:32:49+0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit
> Hi
> 
> I have HP server ML350 G4 with hardware Raid 5 configuration. I want to 
> install FreeBSD on this with Raid 5 configuration.Ca I know installation 
> procedure.
> 

I don't understand you problem.

I've ML 350 G4 too. The procedure is :

1/ Boot the ML
2/ Going to HP 64x raid utility (I don't remeber the short cut, but
you read in the console
3/ Create you raid volume (depend you desire and number of disk you
have)
4/ Reboot with the FreeBSD cd-rom
5/ Install FreeBSD

Regards.

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Script help for updating routine

[Denny White]

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I have a script, pasted in below, which does various
things on a daily basis, like cvsup src, docs, ports,
portsdb, portversion, portupgrade, & so on. I finally
figured out how to do the if/then/else thing with the
portversion-portupgrade part of the script, but I can't
figure out what to do to bypass the docs install part
if there are no new docs. Thanks for any help I can
get on it. Script follows:

#!/bin/sh
#
echo "Cvsup latest src and doc"
cvsup -g -L 2 /root/srcdoc-supfile
#
# THIS THE PART IN QUESTION, THAT DOES
# DOES THE DOCS. CUSTOM MAKEFILE IS FOR
# ENGLISH ONLY.
#G
#send copious output to the bit bucket
echo "Updating docs"
echo ""
cd /usr/doc
cp Makefile.custom Makefile
make install
#make install > /dev/null
#
cd /root
echo "Portsnap fetching and updating ports"
echo ""
portsnap fetch
portsnap update
#
echo "Updating INDEX in /usr/ports"
echo ""
cd /usr/ports
#make fetchindex
portsdb -uUF
#
echo "Portaudit checking for vulnerabilities in installed ports"
echo "Results in file /root/vulnerable"
echo ""
portaudit -Fda >> /root/vulnerable
#
echo "Portversion checking if any ports need upgrading"
echo "Results in file /root/need2upgrade"
echo ""
portversion -l "<" > /root/need2upgrade
if grep '<' /root/need2upgrade; then
echo "Portupgrade upgrading out-of-date ports"
portupgrade -arR; else
echo "Ports already up to date" 1>&2
exit 1
fi
echo "Finished at `/bin/date`."
exit

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Re: Cross device link / FTP

[Joseph Kerian]

On 11/2/05, Leo Lapousterle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hello :)
>
> I've set up a FTP server on my FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE. I've added a hard
> drive to extend the storage capability. So my main FTP server is /Ftp and
> the extension is in /Ftp2.
>
> There's a problem with links: I made a symlink (ln -s) from /Ftp/example
> to
> /Ftp2/example/, but when I move a folder from /Ftp in "example", my FTP
> client tell me : "150 - Cannot rename/write: Cross device link".
>
> My FTP server is Pure-FTPd, the symlink's owner has good UID/GID, chmod
> allows the ftp user to access "example" for writing.
>
> If someone has an idea, this problem is getting me mad :)
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Léo Lapousterle - Paris, France



Hmm... interesting. I just tried this on my system. Sure enough, uploading
and downloading through those symlinks works fine, but not moving a file. I
found the problem on line 4024 of the ftpd.c file in pure-ftpd. It uses the
rename command to move the files, which will fail if the files are on
different file systems.

Do you explicitly require this functionality in the ftp server, rather than
just performing this via a shell session? The problem is that there is not a
similer C function call for "copy", so you can't just drop a replacement in.
I would consult with the pure-ftpd mailing list on this. The quick and easy
solutions to this are glaring security holes, so I might consult with them
over a way around this.

Joe
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MySQL port not d/loading

[tim cle]

Hello,

I'm attempting to install MySQL via ports but its not
d/loading. I know my system should do this, because I
just finished installing apache via ports, and it
d/loaded fine. So, is anyone having problems d/loading
the MySQL port(s) - i tried 4.0 and 4.1 and 5.0 - none
of them transfer successfully. Or is my system just
annoying me for fun (j/k)

Regards, Tim.




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Re: Squirrelmail problem?

[Rob Connon (Info)]

Upgrading to php5 fixed this.

Thanks.

Derrick MacPherson wrote:


Julien Gabel wrote:


After a php update, i usually need to reinstall squirrelmail and its
dependancies using `portinstall -Rf -m "-DWITH_OPENSSL" squirrelmail'
just to be sure all is rebuild with the correct SSL support.





 


Done, but no help. Anyone?
  



Just to be sure, have you restart apache after the overall update?

These are the two steps done on my installation to get it to work
after these upgrade (php4 and apache2).  No more, no less...

 


yup. apache restarted. (it's 1.3)
I'm going to maybe try with php5 to see if that helps
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54_STABLE kernel doesn't boot for me

[Jon Brisbin]

I updated my 5.4 stable source tree yesterday and rolled a new kernel
with SMP for my dual Xeon, 2.4GHz PowerEdge. It froze on boot after
saying something to the effect: "AS started on CPU #1..."

It looks like it recognizes 4 processors (HTT) but it won't ever boot
with the SMP kernel. I first thought maybe it was something in ULE, but
I put the 4BSD scheduler back in and that didn't fix it. I can boot on
my stock, non-SMP kernel and I've turned hyperthreading on, so it can
recognize the first one. But the kernel that just has one extra line
(options SMP) in it won't boot.

There's no logging or anything because it hangs before it can write any
of that stuff. I'm not doing anything strange. loader.conf and
sysctl.conf only have settings for my hardware and to tweak the time
slicing.

I'm updating userland stuff now, thinking maybe something in userland
broke the new kernel, but I can't figure out what.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated! :-)

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diskless FreeBSD with grub

[Daniel Hepper]

Hi,

I want to boot diskless into FreeBSD-5.4 with grub.
I've setup dhcp to provide boot and ip information, tftp to load the
kernel and nfs to share the root filesystem. It runs smoothly when I use
the pxeloader from FreeBSD, but I can't get it working with Grub.

I tried this grub configuration:


title bsd-nfsroot
kernel (nd)/kernel/kernel ip=dhcp root=/dev/nfs
nfsroot=141.2.71.253:/dta/fBSD_diskless
boot


It loads the kernel, but does not boot. My guess is that it doesn't find
the root partition.
This one:


title bsd-nfsroot
kernel (nd)/loader ip=dhcp root=/dev/nfs
nfsroot=141.2.71.253:/dta/fBSD_diskless
boot


loader says it can't find the kernel.
And this one:


title bsd-nfsroot
kernel (nd)/pxeboot ip=dhcp root=/dev/nfs
nfsroot=141.2.71.253:/dta/fBSD_diskless
boot


grub complains that pxeboot is not a correct executable

I have spent hours digging the web without a solution. I would really
appreciate it, if someone could help or give me a pointer to helpful
resources.

The background of the problem:
I manage the software installation on a router-testbed. It consist of 24
identical x86-systems, with different local OS installation. When a
system boots, it load GRUB via PXE from a server. The grub menu is
generated dynamically from a configuration file, which determines what
OS the system should start.
For administration purposes, among other things software distribution,
you can configure the systems to boot a diskless linux system via nfs
(this works).
But as some users run FreeBSD and Linux can't access UFS2-partitions, a
diskless FreeBSD-image is required.


Greetings,
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bitdefender port failing to start

[Dave]

Hello,
   I've just installed the latest bitdefender port, updated it then tried a 
scan. I used:

bdc /
and bdc / --files
both cases i got the following error:

error: core initialization failed: Libfn initialization failed

This is on a 5.4-p6 system.
Any suggestions?
Thanks.
Dave.

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Cross device link / FTP

[Leo Lapousterle]

Hello :)

I've set up a FTP server on my FreeBSD 5.2.1-RELEASE. I've added a hard
drive to extend the storage capability. So my main FTP server is /Ftp and
the extension is in /Ftp2.

There's a problem with links: I made a symlink (ln -s) from /Ftp/example to
/Ftp2/example/, but when I move a folder from /Ftp in "example", my FTP
client tell me : "150 - Cannot rename/write: Cross device link".

My FTP server is Pure-FTPd, the symlink's owner has good UID/GID, chmod
allows the ftp user to access "example" for writing.

If someone has an idea, this problem is getting me mad :)

Thanks!

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HELP

[NickxxxH]

HEY I GOT NO SOUND ON MY PC IT HAD IT BUT IT CRASH AND NOW I CANT HEAR  
NOTHING CAN YOU HELP
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Re: Squirrelmail problem?

[Derrick MacPherson]

Julien Gabel wrote:


After a php update, i usually need to reinstall squirrelmail and its
dependancies using `portinstall -Rf -m "-DWITH_OPENSSL" squirrelmail'
just to be sure all is rebuild with the correct SSL support.
 



 


Done, but no help. Anyone?
   



Just to be sure, have you restart apache after the overall update?

These are the two steps done on my installation to get it to work
after these upgrade (php4 and apache2).  No more, no less...

 


yup. apache restarted. (it's 1.3)
I'm going to maybe try with php5 to see if that helps
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Re: New Logo

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On 2005-11-02 12:49, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On 11/1/05, Danny Pansters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 1 November 2005 19:39, stan wrote:
>>> > YUK!
>>>
>>> OK I will honestly tell you my first reaction: I laughed until I fell
>>> off my
>>> chair. Then I put my hand in front of my mouth and whispered OMG.
>>
>> This logo is so bad, especially from a marketing perspective, that it
>> is almost laughable. I hope it disappears quickly. Whoever did this
>> was not a professional graphic designer who knows marketeting and what
>> a logo is for. Sorry to be so brutal.
>
> I think the critism is a bit harsh. Any logo for FreeBSD is going to be an
> lossing battle - how do you please the beastie fans who don't want
> anything radically different, and those that want a more 'professional'
> logo. I think this logo does the job very well, all beastie fans can
> immediatly recognise it for what it is, while someone who is unaware (i.e.
> the PHB) will only see it as a generic logo.

I am not 100% convinced, but if you say so.  It seems to be that the
religious fundamentalist who thinks Beastie is "the Devil", or
something, will sooner or later look at the new logo and think:

``It looks like a head.  A horned head.  A red, horned head.
OH MY FRIGGIN' GOD!  THAT'S THE DEVIL HIMSELF!''

Then all the fuss about a new logo has been in vain :(

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Re: Squirrelmail problem?

[Julien Gabel]

>>After a php update, i usually need to reinstall squirrelmail and its
>>dependancies using `portinstall -Rf -m "-DWITH_OPENSSL" squirrelmail'
>>just to be sure all is rebuild with the correct SSL support.

> Done, but no help. Anyone?

Just to be sure, have you restart apache after the overall update?

These are the two steps done on my installation to get it to work
after these upgrade (php4 and apache2).  No more, no less...

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Re: Squirrelmail problem?

[Julien Gabel]

I've got a box running 5.4p8, latest versions of courier imap,
squirrelmail, and php 4.4.1. I'm seeing this issue; I can open message
#1, I can't open any other messsages, I get a timeout and a blank
page(plus the compose, address, etc).. other than that, I'm not sure
where to go with this, any thoughts?

>>>http is redirected to https - just in case that helps

>>After a php update, i usually need to reinstall squirrelmail and its
>>dependancies using `portinstall -Rf -m "-DWITH_OPENSSL" squirrelmail'
>>just to be sure all is rebuild with the correct SSL support.

> Hi i am working on the same issue...  Just to follow up i have
> reinstalled all dependancies for squirrelmail and same result. i have
> also tested over http no luck.
>
> it was working fine until earlier when i updated php, apache and a few
> other ports. As mentioned above most times the first message on login is
> loaded.. after that the timeout occurs... also there are a few instances
> where the message will load before the 30 sec timeout but will still
> take 20 - 25 secs to load..
>
> Composing, saving drafts, new mail all works fine.. the problem seems to
> ONLY be reading email and errors on read_body.php line 98|99 - clients
> using imap/pop from various other MUA's have no issue.
>
> *Fatal error*: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in
> */usr/local/www/squirrelmail/src/read_body.php* on line *98*
> *Fatal error*: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in
> */usr/local/www/squirrelmail/src/read_body.php* on line *99*

I am not sure my reply has something to do with the problem you
encounter.  Sorry.

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Re: tarring over ssh question - pulling from the source to tarfiles

[Garrett Cooper]

On Nov 1, 2005, at 11:20 PM, user wrote:



I do that like this:

tar cf - /files | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] "cat >
/usr/home/user/file_data2.tar"

or if I want to split it into multiple files:

tar cf - /files | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] "split - -b 1024m
/usr/home/user/file_data2.tar"

This works just fine.

-



	Have you tried using scp as opposed to SSH? I'm not sure if the  
piping of output would work correctly, but it's a thought.

-Garrett
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Re: Buildworld fails for 6.0-RC1

[Doug Poland]

On 11/2/05, Reko Turja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Doug Poland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Eric F Crist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Eric Schuele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Unless someone has another idea, I'll try installworld via NFS from a
> > working RC1 machine.
>
> How about trying the compile/build in "unpolluted" environment, i.e. running
> the command like:
>
> env -i make buildworld
>
> How is your /etc/make.conf btw?
>
nothing unusual, I think...

CFLAGS= -O -pipe
COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe
NO_PROFILE= true# Avoid compiling profiled libraries
USA_RESIDENT=   YES
X_WINDOW_SYSTEM=xorg

# added by use.perl 2005-10-20 01:03:27
PERL_VER=5.8.7
PERL_VERSION=5.8.7

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Re: Buildworld fails for 6.0-RC1

[Doug Poland]

On 11/2/05, Doug Poland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/2/05, Glenn Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > At 05:28 AM 11/2/2005, Doug Poland wrote:
> > >On 11/2/05, Doug Poland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > On 11/2/05, Eric F Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Something you could try in this instance is deleting everything
> > > > > under /usr/src:
> > > > >
> > > > > #cd /usr/src && rm -rf ./
> > > > >
> > > > > Then re-sup your source tree.
> > > > >
> > > > giving that a try now, thanks...
> > > >
> > >Nope, still have the cap_mkdb error.  How frustrating...
> > >
> >
> > The -l option was added in 6.x.  This probably isn't the "right" way
> > to do it, but...
> >
> > try this:
> >
> > cd /usr/src/usr.bin/cap_mkdb/ && make && make install
> >
> > then try and buildworld again..
> >
> Thanks for the tip, trying that now...
>
Glenn,

That worked, thanks for your help.  Thanks everyone for your
assistance.  The problem, as Glenn figured out, was a "half finished"
install.  That was my bad for not making sure the original build
worked before attempting to install.

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Re: Squirrelmail problem?

[Derrick MacPherson]

Julien Gabel wrote:


After a php update, i usually need to reinstall squirrelmail and its
dependancies using `portinstall -Rf -m "-DWITH_OPENSSL" squirrelmail'
just to be sure all is rebuild with the correct SSL support.
 



Done, but no help. Anyone?
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Re: New Logo

[Bob Ababurko]

Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:


On Nov 1, 2005, at 11:13 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:



And I am not trying to argue and make claims about how inexcusable it
is either.  I merely pointed out to Ted that he is not in the FreeBSD
project and therefore does not have say.



Chad this is bullshit.  First of all the ENTIRE point of this new  
logo is

to increase USE of FreeBSD among the people that allegedly will not
use it because of religious "devil" objections.  IN SHORT, this logo
is FOR THE USERS, NOT FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE PROJECT.



This is factually incorrect.

The purpose of having a logo to replace the mascot as a logo was to  
project a more professional image.  And that is for the people in the  
project who want to see FreeBSD taken more seriously as well as for  the 
users.


Beastie is a toy and unprofessional.  He is fun and can be a great  
mascot.  But he is not a logo.


As a similar example:  Apple Computer used to have a nice multi- colored 
Apple logo.  It was nice, but kind of toy-like and got old.   Apple 
replaced it with a much more professional looking modernized  one-color 
version.  There was nothing wrong with the old version  except that it 
got old and dated and looked unprofessional and more  toy-like.


Same (generally speaking) is needed with FreeBSD.  FreeBSD needs to  
take a step upwards and become more professional looking.  So think a  
lot of users and obviously project members.  There is a minority who  is 
offended by Beastie.  I can't help that.  A logo coincidentally  solves 
their problem as well, but that is not the main point.  If you  think so 
you need to pull your head out of your dogmatic sandpile.


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This is somewhat troublingIf it cannot be seen that the FreeBSD 
community as a whole does not let the "layman's" views of what is 
considered "professional" dictate the way they live and make choices 
then this discussion is not going to end up anywhere .  The OS didn't 
come this far from following what was acceptable in the mainstream. Well 
that may not be entirely true but the point I am trying to make is that 
not using an OS based on what the logo is a lot like not hiring someone 
based on their looks.  While I know this happens these days, it is not 
company I would ever chose to work for.  The reasons are simple1) it 
is just plain wrong, and 2) I am an UGLY dude!  My mom always told me 
that it is inside that counts and this is no different.


Now, if people do not want to use an OS on the basis of what they dream 
beastie represents, then what makes you think the same people are going 
to adopt FreeBSD when the logo changes.  The sex toy still has horns for 
christs sake!  That goes without saying that those same zealots would 
just have to put in a whole two minutes in google to find the resources 
that denounce the fact that beastie has anything the do with religion. 
To put it simply, these people do not want to know what is real.  Their 
whole premise is one of make believeso let them play in blissful 
ignorance while the only thing we can do is be true to ourselves.  word.


FreeBSD has been a project that has put energy and time into things that 
have actually mattered.  This is far from that imo and is on the shallow 
end of the spectrum, if at all.  America as a whole is sick and trying 
to beat them at their own game is just going to make FreeBSD sick as well.


My $.02 is on the house.


Bob





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Re: Buildworld fails for 6.0-RC1

[Micah]

Doug Poland wrote:

On 11/1/05, Eric F Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Nov 1, 2005, at 9:50 PM, Doug Poland wrote:



Just cvsup'd from a different server ( cvsup8.freebsd.org ), this time
I saw some updates go by.  Now my error is occurring here...



Isn't RELENG_6 the current tree?  I could be completely off-base
here, though.



It should get me 6.0-RC1, if I'm not mistaken


I thought RELENG_6 was the development for 6.1 and that RELENG_6_0 was 
the RC branch  I base this on 
http://www.freebsd.org/releases/6.0R/schedule.html and 
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/cvs-tags.html


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Re: Mounting ext3 problem

[Toomas Aas]

Sasa Stupar wrote:


When I try to mount with:
#mount -o ro -t ext2fs /dev/ad3s1 /mnt/linux
I get back
ext2fs: /dev/ad3s1: Invalid argument
Whe typing dmesg I get more on error:
WARNING: mount of ad3s1 denied due to unsupported optional features


It's been a long time since I tried this, but I seem to remember that to 
successfully mount ext3 partition on FreeBSD I had to install the 
sysutils/e2fsprogs port and fsck the ext2 partition before trying to 
mount it.


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Re: New Logo

[Bart Silverstrim]

On Nov 1, 2005, at 8:27 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote:


-- snip --


That's correct, but we should recall that this is a mailing
list to ask technical questions, not discuss logos or flame
people.  Discuss logos on the advocacy@ list; don't flame
people on any list.


I don't post here often, lest I ask a question, but I appreciate these
sorts of comments by people we 'observe' make reliable, wholesome and
always to-the-point-from-experience posts day in and day out.

Keep the FBSD lists clean of flames. I haven't followed this entire
thread, but opinions about the new logo should go to advocacy.


Many people aren't going to subscribe to advocacy just to let a quick 
opinion be noted.


Maybe they're primarily tech people who do have tech questions, and 
feel that this forum is frequented by people "in the know" instead of 
the usual advocacy butterblitters that degrade to ad-hominem attacks 
and whatnot.


Whatever the reason these opinion threads can, do, and will flare up.  
If you don't like them, delete the threads as the appear, because they 
will go away fairly quickly once people vent.  They continue if you or 
other people reply to the threads to perpetuate them.


Personally in the process I often learn something more, whether about 
the project or the project community or human nature in general.  The 
occasional bitching session or idiot flare-up is something that just 
has to be dealt with, whether through the occasional interaction or by 
ignoring it so it goes away faster.



However...there should be somewhere else where people can state their
political views to too. -questions is not that list.


Let's make sublists for everything!  Where's 
logo-is-okay-but-only-if-not-idealogically-motivated-freebsd-list?


You know, sometimes lists create communities in themselves.  Sometimes 
people will vent or ask questions or opinions merely because they 
respect the people (or are looking for responses from the people) who 
frequent a particular list, so a little leeway should be given.


Like I said...don't reply, and the thread dies off fairly quick.  I 
find top posting to rattle my cage a lot faster than some random topic 
on the list that may or may not be exactly the most appropriate.


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Re: Buildworld fails for 6.0-RC1

[Alex Zbyslaw]

Eric F Crist wrote:

Something you could try in this instance is deleting everything  under 
/usr/src:


#cd /usr/src && rm -rf ./

Then re-sup your source tree.

Make damn sure you don't have the only copies of your kernel config file 
under /usr/src before you do this...


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Re: Buildworld fails for 6.0-RC1

[Doug Poland]

On 11/2/05, Glenn Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 05:28 AM 11/2/2005, Doug Poland wrote:
> >On 11/2/05, Doug Poland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 11/2/05, Eric F Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Something you could try in this instance is deleting everything
> > > > under /usr/src:
> > > >
> > > > #cd /usr/src && rm -rf ./
> > > >
> > > > Then re-sup your source tree.
> > > >
> > > giving that a try now, thanks...
> > >
> >Nope, still have the cap_mkdb error.  How frustrating...
> >
> >===> share/termcap (all)
> >gzip -cn /usr/src/share/termcap/termcap.5 > termcap.5.gz
> >TERM=dumb TERMCAP=dumb: ex - /usr/src/share/termcap/termcap.src <
> >/usr/src/share/termcap/reorder
> >cap_mkdb -l termcap
> >cap_mkdb: illegal option -- l
> >usage: cap_mkdb [-v] [-f outfile] file [file ...]
> >*** Error code 1
> >
> >Stop in /usr/src/share/termcap.
> >*** Error code 1
> >
>
> The -l option was added in 6.x.  This probably isn't the "right" way
> to do it, but...
>
> try this:
>
> cd /usr/src/usr.bin/cap_mkdb/ && make && make install
>
> then try and buildworld again..
>
Thanks for the tip, trying that now...

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Re: New Logo

[Bart Silverstrim]

On Nov 1, 2005, at 7:00 PM, ke.han wrote:

In any efforts to expand the market share of freeBSD, I suggest the 
following:
a - It is important to show professionalism, courtesy and restraint as 
a community.  I chose to move from Linux to freeBSD in large part 
because of the quality of the community and documentation.  Public 
fits on the maillists do more damage to any attempt at large corporate 
acceptance than a new logo might help.


Yes, because PHBs and non-techs spend much of their time researching 
and culling through online forums and archives when making decisions 
about what servers to use in their IT department.  It's hard enough 
just getting techies to RTFM and Google for previous solutions...


Plus, it's VERY professional to non-techs to have them look answers up 
online instead of through a dedicated support contract with a large 
company, and with polished manuals and updates handed to the client in 
shiny wrappers.


Oh, and most companies I know of shine up their image by asking their 
employee grunts to come up with a new logo to present to the public.  I 
mean, what can a professionally paid service do that a bunch of 
bike-shedders can't?


Please.

FreeBSD, Linux, most of open source...they're controlled chaos.  The 
fact this stuff has worked is utterly amazing to the suits...the right 
personality types reign in control and keep the cats...er, 
programmers...for the most part in line, with little or no promise of 
payment.  By conventional wisdom the open source model has worked, and 
it shouldn't have.  Now people are talking about polishing up the image 
to get it into the corporate world to "sell" it as if it were a 
finished product...it's like someone found the project and wants to 
shoehorn it into the conventional sales and development model.  Tech 
people have been sneaking BSD, Linux, and assorted projects into the 
corporate realm all on their own, and it's been growing in areas where 
you'd expect low cost back-ends would be a boon for the 
technology-savvy (private web sites, home servers, "geek" projects...). 
 People made a profit with these projects by creating their own 
companies with their own logos to customize projects or tweak them and 
offer their own support for their distros.  Never has there been a 
"Linux" company...but there has been a Red Hat, or a SuSE, to fill the 
niche.  The projects stood alone.


All the bickering and attempts to polish BSD for some imaginary 
marketing department is like watching kids on a playground make a 
better sand castle.  The guys doing real marketing and polishing?  
Apple, with Darwin.  And that's only partially based on BSD.


People telling others to just "fork" and "do their own project" for 
control...how about starting an actual company, like Red Hat did, to 
market and build off of and give back to the project?  Why must FreeBSD 
become political and have an attempt to become "the" company?  Let it 
go on it's own and let others pick up the mantle to create a company to 
offer service and support.  Let the geeks work with FreeBSD and let the 
users and marketers use a company-packaged version if that's their 
liking.


b - I think that sharing a common daemon logo/mascot with the other 
BSDs is a good thing. Linux has done well with the various penguin 
effects. Don't worry too much about this.  Just accept what users 
already have adopted.


Sharing the logo/mascot was a traditional thing.  It's a reference to a 
shared history...it's there for a reason.


And please stop with the top posting.  Not that anyone will listen, of 
course...


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5.4-REL && RBL of SpamAssassin 3.0.2

[guru]

Hello,

Somehow the RBL tests of SpamAssassin 3.0.2 from the ports collection
are not working and I don't understand why after hours of debugging :-(( 

the DNS itself is ok:

Nov  2 14:54:35 spamd[11272]: debug: is Net::DNS::Resolver available? yes
Nov  2 14:54:35 spamd[11272]: debug: Net::DNS version: 0.48
Nov  2 14:54:35 spamd[11272]: debug: trying (3) cingular.com...
Nov  2 14:54:35 spamd[11272]: debug: looking up NS for 'cingular.com'
Nov  2 14:54:35 spamd[11272]: debug: NS lookup of cingular.com succeeded => Dns 
available (set dns_available to hardcode)
Nov  2 14:54:35 spamd[11272]: debug: is DNS available? 1

and about RBL the debug log says:

Nov  2 14:54:57 spamd[11273]: debug: RBL: success for 14 of 14 queries

but nothing is mentioned of the test in the report of the
mail itself;

when I pipe the same test-SPAM through our central SpamAssassin
(3.0.0 on Linux) it says in the report:

X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=15.8 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_99,BIZ_TLD,
FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_50_60,HTML_FONTCOLOR_CYAN,
HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_JAVASCRIPT,HTML_MESSAGE,
HTML_OBFUSCATE_00_10,HTML_TAG_BALANCE_HEAD,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY,
MIME_HTML_NO_CHARSET,MIME_HTML_ONLY,MSGID_FROM_MTA_HEADER,
NO_REAL_NAME,RCVD_IN_DSBL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=unavailable
version=3.0.0-r6932
X-Spam-Report:
*  0.2 NO_REAL_NAME From: does not include a real name
...
*  3.0 RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL RBL: SORBS: sent directly from dynamic IP addre
ss
*  [12.216.203.209 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net]
*  2.0 RCVD_IN_DSBL RBL: Received via a relay in list.dsbl.org
*  []

What's going wrong?

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Re: Buildworld fails for 6.0-RC1

[Glenn Dawson]

At 05:28 AM 11/2/2005, Doug Poland wrote:

On 11/2/05, Doug Poland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/2/05, Eric F Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Something you could try in this instance is deleting everything
> > under /usr/src:
> >
> > #cd /usr/src && rm -rf ./
> >
> > Then re-sup your source tree.
> >
> giving that a try now, thanks...
>
Nope, still have the cap_mkdb error.  How frustrating...

===> share/tabset (all)
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/3101.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/9837.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/aa.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/aed512.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/beehive.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/diablo.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/dtc382.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/hp700-wy.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/ibm3101.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/std.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/stdcrt.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/tandem653.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/teleray.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/vt100.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/vt100-w.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/wyse-adds.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/xerox1720.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/xerox1730.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/xerox1730-lm.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/zenith29.uu
===> share/termcap (all)
gzip -cn /usr/src/share/termcap/termcap.5 > termcap.5.gz
TERM=dumb TERMCAP=dumb: ex - /usr/src/share/termcap/termcap.src <
/usr/src/share/termcap/reorder
cap_mkdb -l termcap
cap_mkdb: illegal option -- l
usage: cap_mkdb [-v] [-f outfile] file [file ...]
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/share/termcap.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/share.
*** Error code 1

Unless someone has another idea, I'll try installworld via NFS from a
working RC1 machine.


The -l option was added in 6.x.  This probably isn't the "right" way 
to do it, but...


try this:

cd /usr/src/usr.bin/cap_mkdb/ && make && make install

then try and buildworld again..

-Glenn




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Re: New Logo

[Bart Silverstrim]

On Nov 1, 2005, at 6:47 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:



On Nov 1, 2005, at 5:16 PM, Danny Pansters wrote:


On Tuesday 1 November 2005 22:22, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:


On Nov 1, 2005, at 3:15 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:

Of course not.  You got what you deserved though so shut the hell 
up.




Ted, you need to shut the hell up.  FreeBSD is not your project and



It's not yours either.


And I am not trying to argue and make claims about how inexcusable it 
is either.  I merely pointed out to Ted that he is not in the FreeBSD 
project and therefore does not have say.


Then why was the logo contest opened to all users of FreeBSD (or 
non-users)?



That's no reason to discard one's opinion, especially
if that person arguably has the same stake/interest/influence as you 
do.


I am not trying to defend the new logo or beastie or anything as it is 
not my project and we have been through this 100 times 
already.  It is not our decision.


Then who was solicited to send in entries?

Why can't the users of a product express their opinions?

Why didn't the core project go hire a professional designer to do this 
with their marketing budget if that's what the aim of this logo project 
was?


I personally find the new logo stupid, I think beastie is a great 
mascot, and we need a new logo for FreeBSD.


You must be on the project, since in the above you were saying that Ted 
has no say in the project and it isn't his yet then you say "we need a 
new logo"...?


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Re: Buildworld fails for 6.0-RC1

[Doug Poland]

On 11/2/05, Glenn Dawson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 04:24 AM 11/2/2005, Doug Poland wrote:
> >On 11/2/05, Eric F Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Something you could try in this instance is deleting everything
> > > under /usr/src:
> > >
> > > #cd /usr/src && rm -rf ./
> > >
> > > Then re-sup your source tree.
> > >
> >giving that a try now, thanks...
>
> I've had a few builds fail recently.  Deleting the contents of
> /usr/obj fixed it for me.  You might want to try that as well.
>
I'm in the habit of doing that everytime a build fails.  I'm beginning with a
completely clean slate.  cvsup'd as of 0630 CST and running buildworld now.
If it doesn't work this time, I think I'll mount an NFS export from a
working 6.0-RC1
box and run installworld from there.

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Re: Buildworld fails for 6.0-RC1

[Reko Turja]

- Original Message - 
From: "Doug Poland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: "Eric F Crist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Eric Schuele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Unless someone has another idea, I'll try installworld via NFS from a
working RC1 machine.


How about trying the compile/build in "unpolluted" environment, i.e. running 
the command like:


env -i make buildworld

How is your /etc/make.conf btw?

-Reko 


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Re: New Logo

[Bart Silverstrim]

On Nov 1, 2005, at 5:22 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:



On Nov 1, 2005, at 3:15 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:



Of course not.  You got what you deserved though so shut the hell up.


Ted, you need to shut the hell up.  FreeBSD is not your project and 
your whining and complaining whenever the logo thing comes up is 
really tiresome.


Y'know, you have a semi-valid point, but at the same time he's a user 
and contributor to the list.  As a user, he has as much right to blow 
chunks at the logo contest as other people who are "only users" have to 
blow sunshine up other user's butts over the logo.


Whether you like it or not, you should respect that.

The people who run the project decided to create a new logo.  It sucks 
but hey, it is better than beastie as a logo.  Beastie is a fine 
mascot but he is not a logo.


This is your opinion, and it apparently isn't shared by everyone else 
who uses the project.  Users have a right to the opinions and to voice 
them, and as much as developers like to pretend users are totally 
irrelevant, projects would become shelved dust collections without 
them.


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Re: Buildworld fails for 6.0-RC1

[Doug Poland]

On 11/2/05, Doug Poland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/2/05, Eric F Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Something you could try in this instance is deleting everything
> > under /usr/src:
> >
> > #cd /usr/src && rm -rf ./
> >
> > Then re-sup your source tree.
> >
> giving that a try now, thanks...
>
Nope, still have the cap_mkdb error.  How frustrating...

===> share/tabset (all)
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/3101.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/9837.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/aa.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/aed512.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/beehive.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/diablo.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/dtc382.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/hp700-wy.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/ibm3101.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/std.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/stdcrt.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/tandem653.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/teleray.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/vt100.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/vt100-w.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/wyse-adds.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/xerox1720.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/xerox1730.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/xerox1730-lm.uu
uudecode < /usr/src/share/tabset/zenith29.uu
===> share/termcap (all)
gzip -cn /usr/src/share/termcap/termcap.5 > termcap.5.gz
TERM=dumb TERMCAP=dumb: ex - /usr/src/share/termcap/termcap.src <
/usr/src/share/termcap/reorder
cap_mkdb -l termcap
cap_mkdb: illegal option -- l
usage: cap_mkdb [-v] [-f outfile] file [file ...]
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/share/termcap.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/src/share.
*** Error code 1

Unless someone has another idea, I'll try installworld via NFS from a
working RC1 machine.

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Re: cannot get IP working between associated ath0 & AP, what to do?

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On 2005-11-02 08:41, Stijn Hoop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 31, 2005 at 08:44:49PM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > Make sure you're not running a BSD firewall too, like the one I had a
> > few days ago and kept failing to obtain an address from my wireless AP
> > at home because of the paranoid ruleset I was using :)
>
> First I confirmed that it really wasn't a firewall issue. Then
> of course I found out it was a PEBKAC; I used this command to
> configure ath0:
>
> # ifconfig ath0 ssid FOO wepmode on wepkey 0xBAR
>
> which showed an association but did not allow packets to be
> sent. The correct incantation is
>
> # ifconfig ath0 ssid FOO wepmode on wepkey 0xBAR weptxkey 1
>
> which, I presume, also sets the wepkey to be used for
> transmitting packets after destination. I must say that I don't
> really see the value of specifying the WEP key and then not
> using it, but then again this is not my OS :-)

Ah!  Hehe.  That's a nice catch there.

I didn't hit this because I explicitly specified more than the
absolutely necessary stuff in my /root/netstart.home shell
script, which I use to connect to my home's network.  The
important bit for the wepkey setup is the ifconfig_ath0 line,
which contains:

% # Use a format similar to rc.conf(5) to allow /etc/rc.d/netif to
% # find and use these settings automagically.
% export ifconfig_ath0="DHCP ssid "FOO" \
% wepmode on weptxkey 1 wepkey '1:0xXX'"

I'm explicitly specifying that weptxkey is going to be key 1 and
then prepending the number of the key, so this didn't happen here.

Thanks for the followup, since now I know what to look for when
things don't Just Work(TM) in the future :)))

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Re: New Logo

[Bart Silverstrim]

On Nov 1, 2005, at 5:18 PM, Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC wrote:


Ted, you are an *sshole


Please try not to top post...you're being rather vague on what part 
exactly makes him an "*sshole", in your opinion...


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periodic scripts execution order

[Russell Cloran]

Hi,

I have a question regarding the execution order of periodic scripts. In
the default configuration, scripts in /etc/periodic/*/ are executed
before /usr/local/etc/periodic/*/, regardless of numbering.

Surely the sensible thing to do would be to execute scripts in an order
based on their numbering of the script, regardless of location? A patch
to /usr/sbin/periodic to make this happen would be fairly trivial ...
so, I'm wondering if there is a reason that the two are run separately? 

The way it currently runs there is no (elegant) way (that I can find) to
write a local script which updates data before the system scripts are
run. This would be nice to have. Should this be filed as a bug?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: FreeBSD auth

[Igor Robul]

Dan Toganel wrote:



I realize that in FreeBSD master.passwd is the
replacement for linux shadow file.
Is there a function to parse it?
And how can i obtain the hash string?
Thanks in advance for any help.
 

It is not recommended directly use /etc/passwd, you your program need 
authentification, then use
PAM (man 3 pam). If you still want ignore PAM, you can use getpwent(3) 
family of functions.

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Re: New Logo

[martin]

> On 11/1/05, Danny Pansters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tuesday 1 November 2005 19:39, stan wrote:
>> > YUK!
>>
>> OK I will honestly tell you my first reaction: I laughed until I fell
>> off my
>> chair. Then I put my hand in front of my mouth and whispered OMG.
>>
>
> This logo is so bad, especially from a marketing perspective, that it
> is almost laughable. I hope it disappears quickly. Whoever did this
> was not a professional graphic designer who knows marketeting and what
> a logo is for. Sorry to be so brutal.
> VHH


I think the critism is a bit harsh. Any logo for FreeBSD is going to be an
lossing battle - how do you please the beastie fans who don't want
anything radically different, and those that want a more 'professional'
logo. I think this logo does the job very well, all beastie fans can
immediatly recognise it for what it is, while someone who is unaware (i.e.
the PHB) will only see it as a generic logo.

Too much importance is given to logos, read some of the press releases
about new logo designs to see some of the crap marketing drones come out
with. It is just a picture to associate with a product, nothing to get too
excited about.

Cheers,
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Re: M audio 24/96 driver

[Andrew P.]

On 11/2/05, Makisupa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Has anyone successfully got a Maudio Delta 24/96 soundcard working in
> 6.0 or 5.4 for that matter?
>
> If so, what sound driver or kernel parameters where used?  Help is much
> appreciated...i think this is the only thing holding me back from moving
> my workstation to FreeBSD (currently running linux).  Google only yields
> people asking the same questions.
>
> THanks,
>
> Mak
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Drivers from www.opensound.com support some
M Audio cards, you should give it a try.
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Re: Buildworld fails for 6.0-RC1

[Glenn Dawson]

At 04:24 AM 11/2/2005, Doug Poland wrote:

On 11/2/05, Eric F Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Something you could try in this instance is deleting everything
> under /usr/src:
>
> #cd /usr/src && rm -rf ./
>
> Then re-sup your source tree.
>
giving that a try now, thanks...


I've had a few builds fail recently.  Deleting the contents of 
/usr/obj fixed it for me.  You might want to try that as well.


-Glenn



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Re: Buildworld fails for 6.0-RC1

[Doug Poland]

On 11/1/05, Eric F Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 1, 2005, at 9:50 PM, Doug Poland wrote:
>
> > Just cvsup'd from a different server ( cvsup8.freebsd.org ), this time
> > I saw some updates go by.  Now my error is occurring here...
>
>
> Isn't RELENG_6 the current tree?  I could be completely off-base
> here, though.
>
It should get me 6.0-RC1, if I'm not mistaken

>
> Keep trying, but do NOT reboot the machine until you successfully
> complete a make buildworld && make installworld, if you've started
> part of the process.  Note that, at this point, you should not be
> using the make world method -- it's rather depreciated.
>
That's precisely the position I'm in :(   I don't intend to reboot
until I get this fixed.
I am using make buildworld && make installworld

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Re: Buildworld fails for 6.0-RC1

[Doug Poland]

On 11/2/05, Eric F Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Something you could try in this instance is deleting everything
> under /usr/src:
>
> #cd /usr/src && rm -rf ./
>
> Then re-sup your source tree.
>
giving that a try now, thanks...

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Re: SLOW net connection speed

[Norberto Meijome]

Jack B.Thompson wrote:

Installed  a new clock Battery  Lets try again,

Hello
I have 6.RC1 up and  running, all appears well except for Really slow
page loads,I have checked /etc/resolv.conf and all is correct,
Have changed card and cable no help,
Changed OS to SUSE and all works fine,
Any Ideas would be helpful   As Always Thanks for any replies,Jbt.


Hi Jack,
not much hard data to go on, so I'll just go with the usual posting 
(someone should add this to FAQ if not there already)


( being pedantic, I guess, but  what exactly do you use to test 'speed' 
of pages loading? with what program? what site? )


seriously now, ifconfig settings - are they the same in SUSE & BSD?

how's the ping times to that site precisely when you are trying to load 
the pages? (you may want to do the same thing when in SUSE). traceroute 
to said server? tcpdump would show you if you are having too many 
collisions / MTU /MSS issues.


how long does it take to resolve a domain name? (do you use your own 
caching dns server? your upstream's ? roots? )


any messages in /var/log/messages that may point to issues?

If it's none of the obvious things, i would go straight to do a ktrace 
on the program you are using to browse to see why it's taking so long 
(or gdb if you are really keen )


good luck,
Beto
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Re: Buildworld fails for 6.0-RC1

[Eric F Crist]

Something you could try in this instance is deleting everything  
under /usr/src:


#cd /usr/src && rm -rf ./

Then re-sup your source tree.

Eric



On Nov 1, 2005, at 10:41 PM, Eric Schuele wrote:


Eric F Crist wrote:

On Nov 1, 2005, at 9:50 PM, Doug Poland wrote:
Just cvsup'd from a different server ( cvsup8.freebsd.org ), this  
time

I saw some updates go by.  Now my error is occurring here...


FWIW... (not that it helps you much).  I'm not seeing any errors.  
cvsup'd from cvsup8 last night and did a build world.


Isn't RELENG_6 the current tree?  I could be completely off-base   
here, though.


RELENG_6 != HEAD
They branched it sometime (July?) back.


Doug,
Keep trying, but do NOT reboot the machine until you successfully   
complete a make buildworld && make installworld, if you've  
started  part of the process.  Note that, at this point, you  
should not be  using the make world method -- it's rather  
depreciated.

-
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Re: tarring over ssh question - pulling from the source to tarfiles

[Norberto Meijome]

Malcolm Kay wrote:

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 05:51 pm, Glenn Dawson wrote:


At 11:20 PM 11/1/2005, user wrote:





Is that possible ?  rsync/rdist are not available.  I need to
do this over ssh and tar, as in the above examples.





To "user"

From the other end:-
% ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] tar -f /files | cat  > /usr/home/user/file_data2.tar

Redirection following ssh ( '|' and '>' ) occur at the local 
end unless within quotes.


ah, nice . thanks for the tip!:)



Thus:
% ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] tar -f /files "|" cat  ">" /usr/home/user/file_data2.tar
or:
% ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] "tar -f /files | cat  > /usr/home/user/file_data2.tar"
would attempt to create the tar archive on the remote machine.


FWIW,

| dd of=/usr/home/user/file_data2.tar

should work as well instead of

| cat > /usr/home/user/file_data2.tar

Beto
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Re: tarring over ssh question - pulling from the source to tarfiles

[Malcolm Kay]

On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 05:51 pm, Glenn Dawson wrote:
> At 11:20 PM 11/1/2005, user wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >Sometimes I have a bunch of data that I want to transfer from
> > source to destination over ssh, but I want to tar it up on
> > the way over (that is, I don't have enough space on the
> > source to create a tarball of the data and then just scp the
> > tarball over...)
> >
> >I do that like this:
> >
> >tar cf - /files | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] "cat >
> >/usr/home/user/file_data2.tar"
> >
> >or if I want to split it into multiple files:
> >
> >tar cf - /files | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] "split - -b 1024m
> >/usr/home/user/file_data2.tar"
> >
> >This works just fine.
> >
> >-
> >
> >My question is, what if I want to initiate this process from
> > the destination machine ?  In the above example, I am on the
> > source machine, and I ssh to the destination, making the tar
> > files as it goes.
> >
> >What if, instead, I am logged into the destination machine,
> > and I want to do the same thing - all from the destination
> > machine ?
> >
> >That is, I know that there is a directory /files on the
> > source that I want, and I have a login to ssh them to me,
> > but I do not want to logon to the source - I want to suck
> > /files to me, but also tar them up on the way.
> >
> >Is that possible ?  rsync/rdist are not available.  I need to
> > do this over ssh and tar, as in the above examples.
>
> rsync would be a much better choice for your needs.
>

You must have more information than revealed in the query to know 
this. "user" does say that he requires a tar file.

To "user"

From the other end:-
% ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] tar -f /files | cat  > /usr/home/user/file_data2.tar

Redirection following ssh ( '|' and '>' ) occur at the local 
end unless within quotes.

Thus:
% ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] tar -f /files "|" cat  ">" /usr/home/user/file_data2.tar
or:
% ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] "tar -f /files | cat  > /usr/home/user/file_data2.tar"
would attempt to create the tar archive on the remote machine.

Malcolm

> -Glenn
>
> >thanks!
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Re: SPAM Filter

[Martin Hepworth]

Thomas

MailScanner calling spamassassin and clam-av

(alternative and more flexible to amavis-new)

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> I'm installing an old laptop with freeBSD 5.4. It's going to be my mail
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> spam
> filter.
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FreeBSD auth

[Dan Toganel]

Hello list, 
I'm a newbie in freebsd programming and i need some
docs & hints in order to port a program from linux to
FreeBSD.

The piece of code is:
..
struct spwd* shadow=getspnam(name);
if(!shadow)
{
.
}
char *key=crypt(passwd,shadow->sp_pwdp);
if(!key)
{

}
if(strncmp(shadow->sp_pwdp,key,strlen(shadow->sp_pwdp))==0)
{
/*login success*/
}
else
{
/*login failed*/
}

I realize that in FreeBSD master.passwd is the
replacement for linux shadow file.
Is there a function to parse it?
And how can i obtain the hash string?
Thanks in advance for any help.





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How much can I upgrade?

[Lars Eighner]

I am running 5.4 stable.

How much can I upgrade without losing Beastie?

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Re: The best scripts ever (trick or treat)

[Ceri Davies]

On Tue, Nov 01, 2005 at 02:20:51PM -0800, Gary Kline wrote:

>   Let's say we request people submit only their sh script
>   (to start).   What would the format need to be so that 
>   a script could parse email and auto-HTML the script?'

 #!/bin/sh --
 portinstall squirrelmail

Did I win a biscuit? :)

Ceri
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Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm
not sure about the former.-- Einstein (attrib.)


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RE: New Logo

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

>-Original Message-
>From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:15 PM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: Free BSD Questions list
>Subject: Re: New Logo
>
>
>On Tuesday,  1 November 2005 at 21:48:57 -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>> [missing attribution to Greg Lehey]
>>> On Tuesday,  1 November 2005 at 14:15:30 -0800, Ted
>Mittelstaedt wrote:
 On  Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:32 PM, Chad Leigh  wrote:
> On Nov 1, 2005, at 1:21 PM, Peter Matulis wrote:
>
> Even though I was in favor of a logo being made for FreeBSD (we can
> keep beastie as a mascot), the winner is not what I would call a
> good logo for the purposes for which logos are used...

 Of course not.  You got what you deserved though so shut
>the hell up.

 This is a contest that never should have happened for a reason that
 has no real justification, it is no wonder it produced a big turd.
>>>
>>> I don't completely disagree with your opinions, but I find your
>>> attitude and language offensive.
>>
>> And I suspect the majority of people are of the same mind.  Quite
>> obviously, the boot-lickers of the conservative right don't understand
>> this
>> - my choice of language was intended to knock some sense in to them.
>>
>> I hope, for their sake, that they are offended.  Greatly.
>
>This is your prerogative.  But please don't do it on our lists.  And
>don't expect anybody to admire you for it.
>

Greg, I don't know why I bother even trying to be nice to you, you
can be such a puffed up crumb when you want to be.

>And now would you please shut up?

No thank you.

> People have been banned from this
>list before, and you're on the best way to it.
>

I invite you to plead your case to having me banned to the FreeBSD
listmaster.

>Yes, there are others on the list who are behaving just as badly as
>you.

Your opinion, they probably wouldn't agree.  If you decide Beastie isn't
important enough to bother defending, that's your choice.  Of course I
will note that you had no problem getting the attention for your books
by using Beastie images on their covers.  Fine lot that is, I guess you
have no problem using Beastie but when the chips are down, you turn
your back on him and walk off.

Ted

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Re: New Logo

[lars]

IMHO a logo, or a new logo, was necessary for technical reasons.
Less colors, "vectorable", more modern look.
I really like the Beastie character, but it's too complicated a design
to use directly as a logo, at least I think so.

I actually don't believe this logo was created to placate
an extremely religious minority. If it really was, then that was an
extremely stupid move, because you can never placate people of that
caliber, no matter what you do - Flying Spaghetti Monster anyone?

As usual, we're now entering the phase of metadiscussion.
4.10: Thou shalt not commit bikesheds. 

See Poul Henning Kamp's explanation on that:
http://www.unixguide.net/freebsd/faq/16.19.shtml

So, have a nice day everyone
Lars
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Re: New Logo

[Huajian.Luo]

stan wrote:
> YUK!
> 
To My disappointed ... but FreeBSD itself really rocks.


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RE: New Logo

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

>-Original Message-
>From: Jun Kuriyama [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10:43 PM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: New Logo
>
>
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>
>
>As Greg said, please stop this thread on this list.  You can discuss
>it on other lists (such as -advocacy@), but -questions@ is not the
>place to do.
>

Wrong.  -questions is for general questions as well as user tech support
as has been posted on the FreeBSD webpages.  I suggest if you don't
like the thread you ignore it.  There is no rule on the list that every
subscriber
must respond to all postings.

Ted

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Re: Squirrelmail problem?

[Rob Connon (Info)]

Julien Gabel wrote:


I've got a box running 5.4p8, latest versions of courier imap,
squirrelmail, and php 4.4.1. I'm seeing this issue; I can open message
#1, I can't open any other messsages, I get a timeout and a blank
page(plus the compose, address, etc).. other than that, I'm not sure
where to go with this, any thoughts?
 



 


http is redirected to https - just in case that helps
   



After a php update, i usually need to reinstall squirrelmail and its
dependancies using `portinstall -Rf -m "-DWITH_OPENSSL" squirrelmail'
just to be sure all is rebuild with the correct SSL support.

 

Hi i am working on the same issue...  Just to follow up i have 
reinstalled all dependancies for squirrelmail and same result. i have 
also tested over http no luck.


it was working fine until earlier when i updated php, apache and a few 
other ports. As mentioned above most times the first message on login is 
loaded.. after that the timeout occurs... also there are a few instances 
where the message will load before the 30 sec timeout but will still 
take 20 - 25 secs to load..


Composing, saving drafts, new mail all works fine.. the problem seems to 
ONLY be reading email and errors on read_body.php line 98|99 - clients 
using imap/pop from various other MUA's have no issue.


*Fatal error*: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in 
*/usr/local/www/squirrelmail/src/read_body.php* on line *98*
*Fatal error*: Maximum execution time of 30 seconds exceeded in 
*/usr/local/www/squirrelmail/src/read_body.php* on line *99*


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RE: New Logo

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

>-Original Message-
>From: Tim Traver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 11:03 PM
>To: Ted Mittelstaedt
>Cc: Steve Bertrand; 'FreeBSD Questions'
>Subject: Re: New Logo
>
>
>
>Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
>
>>
>>Anyway, instead of simply looking at the questioner with an expression
>>like "what kind of fucking moron are you" and ignoring it, or 
>better yet
>>using it as an opportunity to initiate a discussion of the rich UNIX
>>history,
>>this committer started making a horses-ass of himself on the mailing
>>lists.
>>
>>  
>>
>You mean like you are now ?
>

Hey Tim, I thought you were pretty much dedicated to OpenBSD, glad to
see your back.

Ted
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SLOW net connection speed

[Jack B.Thompson]

Installed  a new clock Battery  Lets try again,

Hello
I have 6.RC1 up and  running, all appears well except for Really slow
page loads,I have checked /etc/resolv.conf and all is correct,
Have changed card and cable no help,
Changed OS to SUSE and all works fine,
Any Ideas would be helpful   As Always Thanks for any replies,Jbt.

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FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" refcount is 2, should be 1; fixing.

[Glenn Todd]

Since upgrading to FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p8, and completeing a ports  
cvsup (29 Oct) and portsupgade -arR  I have been getting the following  
error when the gnome desktop starts and during shutdown.


FreeFontPath: FPE "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/" refcount is 2,  
should be 1; fixing.


I presume it is something do with the following ports or their  
dependencies:

Gnome 2.10.2
xorg-server-6.8.2_6
xorg-clients-6.8.2
xorg-fontserver-6.8.2

The same error is occuring on my laptop and main machine both are at  
the same OS and ports upgrade level.


This problem has been reported before,  however, I cannot find a fix.

Any ideas.

Glenn

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Re: Kernel boot hangs

[Paulino Calderon]

I still cant get a clue about why it hangs, i got a copy of the 6.0 rc1 and
why i try to install it using boot -v the computer shut down apparently when
it tries to load the acpi.ko, so i i tried using unset acpi_load and boot -v
again, and still i cant get any clue about why it hangs, as soon as i hit
enter the computer freezes...
 Any ideas?
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Re: SLOW net connection speed

[Kris Kennaway]

On Sat, Apr 12, 1980 at 01:47:15AM -0700, Jack B.Thompson wrote:
> Hello
> I have 6.RC1 up and  running, all appears well except for Really slow
> page loads,I have checked /etc/resolv.conf and all is correct,
> Have changed card and cable no help,
> Changed OS to SUSE and all works fine,
> Any Ideas would be helpful   As Always Thanks for any replies,Jbt.

Your email delivery seems to also be slow..this message took 25 years
to arrive.

Kris


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SLOW net connection speed

[Jack B.Thompson]

Hello
I have 6.RC1 up and  running, all appears well except for Really slow
page loads,I have checked /etc/resolv.conf and all is correct,
Have changed card and cable no help,
Changed OS to SUSE and all works fine,
Any Ideas would be helpful   As Always Thanks for any replies,Jbt.



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Re: Squirrelmail problem?

[Julien Gabel]

>> I've got a box running 5.4p8, latest versions of courier imap,
>> squirrelmail, and php 4.4.1. I'm seeing this issue; I can open message
>> #1, I can't open any other messsages, I get a timeout and a blank
>> page(plus the compose, address, etc).. other than that, I'm not sure
>> where to go with this, any thoughts?

> http is redirected to https - just in case that helps

After a php update, i usually need to reinstall squirrelmail and its
dependancies using `portinstall -Rf -m "-DWITH_OPENSSL" squirrelmail'
just to be sure all is rebuild with the correct SSL support.

-- 
-jpeg.

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