Kernel option question

2005-11-05 Thread Mihai Tanasescu

Hello,


I've just recently started to use FreeBSD and I'm having problems with a 
piece of software that I'm running.
That software causes quite a high load on my machine and gets 
automatically killed after some time.


How can I configure FreeBSD not to kill the high cpu consuming tasks 
taking into account the risk of my machine getting to be unavailable.



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Re: Question

2005-11-05 Thread Mark Kane
DAVID NOURIAN wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> 1. If I decide to change to FreeBSD from WinXP, will I still be
> able to run my windows programs?

Yes and no. There is a program called WINE that does run some Windows
applications (http://www.winehq.com/) but not all. That's an ongoing
effort. Another option for running Windows software inside FreeBSD would
be an emulator like Qemu or VMWare. Then you could actually install
Windows to a virtual disk image and run it from inside FBSD. All
programs would work but running the virtual Windows would be a bit
slower than a real Windows install.

When I made the move to FreeBSD from Windows for my desktop machines as
well (I had previously only used FBSD for servers), I was worried about
all my applications since I do a lot of audio production and streaming.
If you already use programs like Firefox, Thunderbird, OpenOffice,
X-Chat, gAIM, Audacity, VLC, GIMP, Azureus, etc, then those are
available natively for FreeBSD without the need for any emulation.

There are also tons of other free and open source programs to run on
FreeBSD that can do what you need to do. Check out
http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ for a list of 13,500+ applications that
you can install very easily. Some examples would be Abiword for word
processing, XMMS for a Winamp like media player, gFTP for a graphical
FTP client, NVU for a free WYSIWYG web editor, and many many more.

> 2. Can I ran WinXP for my Applications & FreeBSD as a web server?
> Note: I have 2 HD's on my system & have ordered a 3rd HD to be
> used as a web server HD .

You could have FreeBSD on one drive and Windows XP on another and dual
boot, but that wouldn't be reliable for serving. You could run one of
the operating systems inside a virtual machine like Qemu or VMWare, but
I personally wouldn't want to run FreeBSD in a VM that is running on
Windowsto me that defeats the purpose of having a stable serving OS
if the host OS that the VM is running on is unstable.

Going the other way, you could have FreeBSD as the main OS and then
install Qemu and put the disk image for your WinXP install on that other HD.

HTH

-Mark



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5.4 Generic Kernel - da and scbus...I'm at a loss

2005-11-05 Thread Clay
All,

I am a newbie to kernel related things.  I'm running 5.4 using the generic 
kernel.  I am problems with using an iPod via USB, and it seems that I may 
not have device support for sa and scbus in my kernel.  I have been 
searching for a few hours this evening using various criteria and am still 
unable to get past this issue.

It seems like the failure is that a device node /dev/da* for the umass drive 
isn't be created.  Any help would be appreciated.  I am going to try booting 
the 6.0 kernel off CD next and then go from there.

Thanks,
-Clay 


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Question

2005-11-05 Thread DAVID NOURIAN
Hello,

1. If I decide to change to FreeBSD from WinXP, will I still be
able to run my windows programs?
2. Can I ran WinXP for my Applications & FreeBSD as a web server?
Note: I have 2 HD's on my system & have ordered a 3rd HD to be
used as a web server HD .

Thanks,
David
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sendmail-X

2005-11-05 Thread Dikshie

dear all
has anyone porting sendmail-X ?
(http://www.sendmail.org/sm-X/index.html)






regards,

-dikshie-
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Problems with php-4

2005-11-05 Thread Mike Loiterman
Just finished upgrading to 6, so I rebuilt all my ports to use the new
libraries with portupgrade.  All built fine except for two:

** Listing the failed packages (*:skipped / !:failed) 
 ! devel/pear-PEAR (pear-PEAR-1.3.5_1)   (unknown build error) 
 * databases/pear-DB (pear-DB-1.7.6,1) 
 --->  Packages processed: 171 done, 0 ignored, 1 skipped and 1 failed

php4-DB depends on PEAR, so I fix PEAR, and I fix the other one...I hope.

Anyway, when I try to rebuild php4-PEAR this is the error I get:

===>Verifying install for pear in /usr/ports/devel/php4-pear 
 This port requires the CLI or the CGI version of PHP, but you have 
 already installed a conflicting PHP port without them. 
 *** Error code 1 
  
 Stop in /usr/ports/devel/php4-pear. 
 *** Error code 1 
  
 Stop in /usr/ports/archivers/pear-Archive_Tar. 
 *** Error code 1 

I have mod_php4 installed which is incomptaible with php4-cli /
pgp4-cgi...so how can I get around this?

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RE: New Logo - http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/result/

2005-11-05 Thread Tamouh H.

> > Well, the winner of the FreeBSD logo competition has been
> announced -
> > see http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/result/
> >
> > So what's the verdict then? I have to say I've very impressed, love
> > the horns!

I'm sorry to disagree. Is this the best they were able to come up with ?
Very disappointing. I prefer the current logo over a ball with two horns!!!
and the font used to write FreeBSD is very unprofessional.

I'm not a designer to make a better logo, but I know my idea of a logo for
an OS would be much much better than this.

My two cents...

Tamouh


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Re: New Logo - http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/result/

2005-11-05 Thread martinko

Nick Withers wrote:

Well, the winner of the FreeBSD logo competition has been
announced - see http://logo-contest.freebsd.org/result/

So what's the verdict then? I have to say I've very impressed,
love the horns!



hello,

i wonder where i could see the other entries ??

also, while looking at the above web page, i noticed that spacing
(between letters) in "The Power To Serve" is wrong. maybe the font needs
more kerning/hinting or whatever.

martin

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EM Nic driver not up to date

2005-11-05 Thread Ian Lord

Hi,

I just did a makeworld and I notice that the em drivers of the 
distribution is now version 2.1.7


On intel's website, the sources of em version 3.2.15 for freebsd are 
available, can someone update the sources so that people can benefit 
from it ? (not sure where to ask for this)


For now, I will just recompile them myself...

Thanks 
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Re: suspend works, but resume doesn't on Dell desktop

2005-11-05 Thread Mohan Singh
On 11/5/05, Fabian Keil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Mohan Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How can I get resume to work properly?
>
> On my ThinkPad R51 I put
>
> acpi_video_load="YES"
> hw.acpi.reset_video=0
> hw.syscons.sc_no_suspend_vtswitch=1

Thanks for the suggestion. I tried it, but the issue persists. =-(
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Re: fbsd6 and java

2005-11-05 Thread Andrew P.
On 11/6/05, Dick Hoogendijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On my 5.4 system I ran java-1.4
> I'm building a clean (brandnew) 6.0-release now ans was wandering if I
> should stick with 1.4 or go to the 1.5 java branch. What to do?
>
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6.0 doesn't change anything, if that's what
you're interested in.
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Migrating Evolution folders

2005-11-05 Thread Mike Jeays
I recently upgraded from 5.3 to 5.4, and this resulted in an upgrade of
Evolution from 1.4 to 2.2.1.1.

The folders are now held in ~/.evolution instead of ~/evolution, but
there seem to be some format incompatibilities.  I have not succeeded in
migrating my mail yet.  I googled for the problem, and there are one or
two hints that other people have had problems, but I can't find a
solution.  If it can't be done automatically, I think I will switch to
another mail client, maybe Thunderbird.

Any pointers, please?

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Re: i need some suggestions

2005-11-05 Thread Peter Clutton
On 11/6/05, Bob Ababurko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If anyone has any ideas or options of why we should not use plesk, I
> would like to hear some refreshing insight other than my brain at the
> moment.

Well, what reason do you really have for not wanting plesk? That would
be a good place to start. If it is just plesk in particular, there are
some alternatives. All conspiracy theories aside, most companies such
as yourself, do implement something similar. Here are some
alternatives:

News Article:
http://www.emediawire.com/releases/2005/9/emw282859.htm

Actual Site:
http://www.raqdevil.com/

Webmin is also an option. Still, like you said, you're not sure what
it is wanted for. If you find out first, you will be able to make a
sensible case for using it or not using it, or for any of it's
alternatives. Hope that helps.
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RE: DMA errors

2005-11-05 Thread Mike Jeays
On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 08:00, Mike Jeays wrote:
> On Mon, 2005-10-31 at 02:11, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: Mike Jeays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 8:04 PM
> > >To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> > >Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > >Subject: RE: DMA errors
> > >
> > >
> > >On Sat, 2005-10-29 at 19:48, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> > >> Try a different disk drive.
> > >>
> > >> What motherboard is in use here?
> > >>
> > >> Ted
> > >>
> > >> >-Original Message-
> > >> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Jeays
> > >> >Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 4:28 PM
> > >> >To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > >> >Subject: DMA errors
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >I have a 40GB Maxtor D740X-6L disk, and have been unable to
> > >install 5.4
> > >> >or 6.0 on it.  I get errors:
> > >> >
> > >> >ad0: FAILURE WRITE_DMA STATUS=51  error=84 (IRC,
> > >> >ABORTED) LBA=..
> > >> >
> > >> >as soon as I try to commmit the changes in sysinstall.
> > >> >
> > >> >I have checked that the IDE cable is the 80-wire type, and cleaned up
> > >> >the connections and so on.
> > >> >
> > >> >I tried installing Ubuntu on this disk, and everything went
> > >perfectly.
> > >> >(Those guys have done a really great job, by the way).
> > >> >
> > >> >Is there some configuration trick I have missed?
> > >> >
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> > >
> > >It works on at least one other disk, a Western Digital 80GB.  The
> > >motherboard is as Asus P4S533.
> > >
> > 
> > Well I hate to be flippant, but there you have it, problem solved.
> > 
> > I have been doing PC work professionally for over 10 years and
> > unprofessionally for at least 10-15 years before that, and ever
> > since the IDE interface was invented I've had to deal with
> > incompatibilties between the controller and the hard disk.  Back
> > in the days that the IDE controller chip was on a paddle card I
> > used to have a box of them and when running into a problem like
> > your doing, I would swap the cards until I got a good combo.  This
> > was all ISA stuff of course.  Once the PCI came out and they
> > started putting the controller on motherboard, they only way around
> > these problems is to play musical chairs with the disk drives.
> > 
> > And all this was long before FreeBSD, let alone Linux, was even
> > a gleam in someone's eye.
> > 
> > Your 40GB Maxtor has some moronic timing incompatibility with the
> > IDE chipset that the FreeBSD driver in 5.4/6.0 happens to tickle,
> > there's nothing you can do about it.  Use your 80GB disk for the
> > FreeBSD system or go find some other brand of motherboard for your
> > 40GB disk, and things will work fine.
> > 
> > Ted
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> Thanks for the advice, and that is probably what I will do.  
> 
> However, before I bought the 80GB disk, I used to run 4.6 on the Maxtor
> 40GB, with no problems.  Furthernore, this disk and MB will still run
> Ubuntu and Fedora, so it seems that later FreeBSD releases are more
> sensitive, or drive the hardware a bit harder.
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Thanks for the help - you seem to be correct, Ted.  I bought a second
Western Digital 80GB disk, and 5.4 installs on this with no problem.

The case for the 40 GB Maxtor seems a little odd - it works fine with
Ubuntu, the Redmond product, and Fedora Core 3. I even switched it to
PIO-only mode, and then 5.4 can be installed - but, as expected, it is
very slow - 25 seconds to load KPresenter, for example.  Not too useful.

It also worked with an earlier FreeBSD, version 4.7 and before.  So does
FreeBSD drives disks a bit harder than other OSes, and is it still "in
spec"? 

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RE: i need some suggestions

2005-11-05 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Hi Bob,

  Sorry for the top post.  Here's the deal: your operative statement is:

"I do all the system administration and network administration"

  When do you go on vacation, guy?  It must be some time.  And I
would bet that when you do you leave detailed instructions for your
boss as to how to login, modify accounts, etc.  Whereupon when
the time comes to actually do it - he's left sitting at a command
prompt and is scared to death of following your instructions.  Am
I right?

  Even if you never go on vacation, what happens if you walk to
another employer?  Or if you get hit by a bus?

  Your employer, which I would bet money is also the owner, has
a sticky problem here.  He knows that it's unsafe for everything to
be dependent on 1 person, from a disaster recovery standpoint that it.
He is thinking if everything is pleskified, and you do get hit by
a bus, that he will be at least able to keep from being nibbled
to death by ducks while he looks for a replacement for you.  But
if he comes right out and tells you the truth, your going to think
that all he wants plesk for is so that the administration becomes
so easy that he can fire you and hire someone cheaper, or some such.
So he's probably giving you a load of bullcrap about the customers
wanting it so that you don't get rattled and walk.

  Now I've been in these situations before, both as employer and
employee.  And I can tell you that you need to sit down with him
and have a heart-to-heart talk.  This could potentially be a very
divisive issue that could damage the company.  Both of you are in
the wrong and you both need to acknowledge that to each other.

  For starters, you are in the wrong because you must understand
that there is a real, legitimate business need for multiple people
to be able to handle administration of the servers in the company,
in case of a problem.  If I was one of your customers and I knew
that only 1 person could do the administration on your systems, I'd
be out of there.  This redundancy/cross training could be accomplished
with plesk, or with webmin (which is how we do it) or some other
tool.   But it has to exist, and your employer is justified in wanting
it to exist.

  But also for starters, your employer is in the wrong by latching
on to a SPECIFIC solution - ie: plesk - and trying to ram it down
your throat.  He hired you to administer the network and he can't
interfere with your doing the job of administering it.  Otherwise
if he wants to micromanage, then he needs to do the entire enchilada.
He cannot cherry-pick parts of your job, and flit in and out as
the whim takes him, making pronouncements from on high.  If your
employer does not have the knowledge to install plesk and get it
running on the network there, then he is NOT qualified to evaluate
it as a solution for your company.  In short, he needs to trust
you - if that trust does not exist, then your wasting your time
working there.

  Now, let me tell you something else.  Right now YOU are basically
in the drivers seat.  The worst thing you could do is walk before
a solution like plesk is implemented - and your employer knows this.
That is probably his greatest fear right now.  So, if in the course
of talking to him, you even HINT that you are even AWARE of this,
let alone threaten to do it, it will utterly destroy whatever trust
you have and he will jump to conclusions that you are just going to
screw him over as soon as you find another job.  If that happens then
he's going to simply entrench himself and will demand you install
plesk immediately - and probably stand over you until it's done -
which will of course scotch everything and you will either get
disgusted and quit or he will fire you.

  So you are treading on thin ice here.  What you need to do is
approach this with kid gloves.  Ask him gently if he's really
interested in plesk because of the "bus factor" that will get
the issue out on the table so he will be more comfortable talking
about it.  Acknowledge that he has a good point and you understand
that since your growing that the administration must be made easier
so that he could do it in the event that you are incapacitated.
Remind him that once this is done that will help free you up to do
more complex, demanding admin tasks like upgrading servers and
such, because now he can start answering the phone and e-mail
and knocking off some of the piddly day to day stuff that your
being taken up with.  Once your both in agreement then you need
to carefully bring up the fact that since your intimately knowledgeable
about the administration stuff that you really want to eval plesk
and some other GUI administration tools before committing to it.

  Depending on his response you will know what to do.  If you have
a good relationship with him he will probably be willing to back down
as long as he sees some tangible movement towards a more redundant
administrative setup.  If he doesn't
trust you he's going to keep pushing for plesk, and at that point
y

Re: GAMING

2005-11-05 Thread Peter Clutton
> > rick wrote:
> >
> > >how is freebsd for gaming needs ive used linux and windows for years.???

Andrew wrote:
> *BSD is still a few years (months?) off from entering
> the desktop (and gaming) market, but it will, and when
> it does, all its strengths will shine. Commercially
> speaking, if you want to see (preview) the future now,
> learn FreeBSD, use it, love it.

Wow, it's cool to hear someone say that! I really hope it is a serious
player in the desktop and especially gaming market soon. Absolutely
the _only_ thing i use Windows for is computer games. In every other
area of the desktop (server goes without saying) I've found a better
tool for the job on FreeBSD. My main desktop now is my Sony Vaio
running FreeBSD 5.4. Game developers need to start making everything
for OpenGLout of the box.

> Yesterday, I spent 4 hours playing UT2004. And it
> seemed to run faster than on Windows. At least it
> felt much cooler :-)

Nice, it definitely would feel cooler! With all that in mind, i might
focus on switching over the last dregs of Windows, and doing my gaming
on FreeBSD. New project!
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fbsd6 and java

2005-11-05 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
On my 5.4 system I ran java-1.4
I'm building a clean (brandnew) 6.0-release now ans was wandering if I
should stick with 1.4 or go to the 1.5 java branch. What to do?

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Re: about building release 6.0

2005-11-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 10:58:03PM +, Antoine Solomon wrote:
> I would have to update my system's src and rebuild system for that
> particular release? That is strange since make release has so many options.
> oh well :-(

Yes, it's assumed you're already running the version of FreeBSD you're
building the release for (or close enough).  It's not intended as an
upgrade path.

Kris


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Re: about building release 6.0

2005-11-05 Thread Antoine Solomon
Could I "make buildworld" then "make release" without doing a "make
installworld"? On this particular server I really wanted to keep it at the
5.x branch.

Antoine


On 11/5/05, Antoine Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I would have to update my system's src and rebuild system for that
> particular release? That is strange since make release has so many options.
> oh well :-(
>
>
> On 11/5/05, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 06:48:59PM +, Antoine Solomon wrote:
> > > My goal was to create the iso images of the fbsd-6-0. I successfully
> > did it
> > > using release of 5.4 and release branch 5.x but when doing it for
> > > 6.0release it gives me that perl problem. The instructions which I
> > > used are
> > > from
> > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/ and of
> > course
> > > man relase. Also I did not check out the src to /usr/src but in a none
> > std
> > > location "/opt/freebsd" I wanted to keep these builds seperate from
> > the
> > > system and did not want to upgrade the server which is handling these
> > > builds.
> >
> > Doing cross-releases isn't supported.
> >
> > Kris
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: about building release 6.0

2005-11-05 Thread Antoine Solomon
I would have to update my system's src and rebuild system for that
particular release? That is strange since make release has so many options.
oh well :-(


On 11/5/05, Kris Kennaway <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 06:48:59PM +, Antoine Solomon wrote:
> > My goal was to create the iso images of the fbsd-6-0. I successfully did
> it
> > using release of 5.4 and release branch 5.x but when doing it for
> > 6.0release it gives me that perl problem. The instructions which I
> > used are
> > from
> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/ and of
> course
> > man relase. Also I did not check out the src to /usr/src but in a none
> std
> > location "/opt/freebsd" I wanted to keep these builds seperate from the
> > system and did not want to upgrade the server which is handling these
> > builds.
>
> Doing cross-releases isn't supported.
>
> Kris
>
>
>


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RE: gmirror clearing configuration

2005-11-05 Thread Gayn Winters
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 3:31 PM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: gmirror clearing configuration
> 
> 
> Hello,
> I'm trying to set up raid1 on fbsd 5.4-RELEASE no patches 
> yet installed 
> just a vanilla release box. I've messed up somewhere, the 
> primary drive is 
> smaller than the secondary drive and i'm using Ralf's second 
> procedure. My 
> problem is i can't clear the metadata from either the first 
> or second drive 
> so i can start again, i load gmirror then issue a gmirror 
> clear and it says 
> it can't clear the metadata. Any help appreciated.
> Thanks.
> Dave.
>
I'm sure others have more gmirror experience than I do, but maybe this
will help...

The metadata is stored in the last sector of the logical disk.  Zap both
physical disks with 
  dd if=/dev/zero of=...  skip=n-1 count=1 bs=512b
where n is the number of sectors.  After you do this you'll of course
need to rebuild the mirror.  Backup and be careful!!!

You can also do this with the gmirror utilities by removing one drive
from the mirror, then undoing the mirror and the remaining drive (which
zeroes the last sector) and then rebuilding.  When I tried this once, I
had a little trouble with the fact that the removed drive still had the
metadata on its last sector.  I think I had to zap its last sector prior
to adding it back into the mirror.

-gayn

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Re: Problems on start of my system

2005-11-05 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
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On Saturday,  5 November 2005 at  2:02:49 -0200, alicornio wrote:
Content-Description: Mail message body
> Hi all
>
> I have a problem on start of my system, appear this mesage:
>
> Staring file system checks:
> /dev/ad0s1a: 1304 files, 18242 used, 300053 free (1149 frags, 37363 blocks, 
> 0.4% fragmentation)
> /dev/ad0s1g: DEFER FOR BACKGROUND CHECKING
> /dev/ad0s1f: DEFER FOR BACKGROUND CHECKING
> /dev/ad0s1d: DEFER FOR BACKGROUND CHECKING
> /dev/ad0s1e: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS
> /dev/ad0s1e: clean, 57112 free (40 frags, 7134 bloks, 0,1% fragmentation)
> WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted
> ad0: FAILURE - READ-DMA status=51 ERROR=40 
> LBA=2398527
> mount: /dev/ad0s1: input/output error
> WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted
> WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted
> mounting /etc/fstab filesystems failed, start up aborted
> ad0: FAILURE - READ-DMA status=51 ERROR=40 
> LBA=2191743
> boot interruped
> enter full pathname of shell or return for /bin/sh:
>
> I type something and the system reboot after this mesages:

If you typed something, you should say what.

But in this case, you have two problems.  Most people replying to this
thread have concentrated on the unclean umount.  The real issue seems
to be the hard errors on the disk:

   LBA=2398527
   LBA=2191743

The question is: which file system?  That's not clear from the output.

There's a very good chance that you need a new disk, but the question
is how to recover the data.  You have a choice of what to do now.  The
safest approach  is:

 - buy a new disk and install your chosen version of FreeBSD on it.
 - put the old disk in the system in some other position (slave or
   second IDE channel, for example).
 - mount the file systems read-only, without running fsck
 - copy across the data that you need.

If you choose to keep the existing disk, you can try this:

   - run fsck -u on each file system in turn:

 fsck -y /
 fsck -y /usr
 fsck -y /var
 fsck -y /home

 If the system panics, you will know which file system was
 affected.  The ones that have already been fsck'ed will stay that
 way; you don't need to repeat that.

  - If it succeeds, you're done.  Otherwise you have at least narrowed
down the problem to a specific file system.  You can mount it
read-only and back up the contents.  Then, if it's not the root
file system (this won't work for the root file system), do
(assuming that it's /dev/ad0s1g, which you don't appear to have
:-),

  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/ad0s1g bs=128k conv=sync seek=9

This writes zeroes to the entire partition, with the exception of
the disk label.  Obviously this destroys all data on the
partition.  It's possible that the drive will then succeed in
writing the data and clean up the soft errors.  If this works, you
can run newfs on the partition and restore the data.

Greg
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Re: (no subject)

2005-11-05 Thread Andrew P.
On 11/6/05, Maksim Skvarnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello freebsd-questions,
>
>   I want to publisher FreeBsd in my town. I leave in Slavutich. It's
>   near the Chornobil nuclear power plant. Please, sent me CD with
>   latest version FreeBsd.
>
>
> Maksim Skvarnik
> Moskovsky 11/46
> Slavutich
> Kyivskya obl.
> Ukraine
> 07100
>
> --
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Здесь можно недорого купить: http://linuxcenter.ru/

В Украине, наверняка, тоже (только доставка будет
намного дешевле).

Хотя я уверен, что для тебя лучший вариант - позвонить
или намылить своему провайдеру (http://slavutich.kiev.ua/)
и договориться, чтобы они нарезали тебе болванок. У
них-то FreeBSD точно есть.
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RE: gmirror on 1 or 2 IDE cables

2005-11-05 Thread Gayn Winters
> -Original Message-
> From: Ted Mittelstaedt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2005 1:26 PM
> To: Steve Bertrand; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: gmirror on 1 or 2 IDE cables
> 
> 
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
> Steve Bertrand
> >Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 7:28 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> >Subject: RE: gmirror on 1 or 2 IDE cables
> >
> >
> >
> >> Using gmirror to mirror two identical drives, how much of a 
> >> performance hit is it to have
> >> 
> >> 1.  Both drives on one IDE cable?
> >> Compared to:
> >> 2.  One drive primary on one cable and one secondary on the 
> >> other cable?
> >> Compared to:
> >> 3.  Both drives primary but on separate IDE cables?
> >
> >My understanding that only a single drive on each IDE channel can be
> >accessed at any one time.
> >
> 
> Which may or may not matter depending on what he's doing.  Are we
> talking mainly reads or writes here?
> 
> Ted
> 
I was mostly thinking about writes; however, now that you raise the
issue, can gmirror interleave reads from the two mirrored disks?

-gayn



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RE: gmirror on 1 or 2 IDE cables

2005-11-05 Thread Gayn Winters
> -Original Message-
> From: Peter Clutton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 2:30 PM
> To: Steve Bertrand
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: gmirror on 1 or 2 IDE cables
> 
> 
> On 11/4/05, Steve Bertrand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Using gmirror to mirror two identical drives, how much of a
> > > performance hit is it to have
> > >
> > > 1.  Both drives on one IDE cable?
> > > Compared to:
> > > 2.  One drive primary on one cable and one secondary on the
> > > other cable?
> > > Compared to:
> > > 3.  Both drives primary but on separate IDE cables?
> >
> > My understanding that only a single drive on each IDE channel can be
> > accessed at any one time.
> >
> > Thus, if you put one drive on one channel, and the other 
> drive on the
> > second channel, they can be accessed simultaneously. The 
> location on the
> > cable(s) does not matter,
> 
> That is correct about the two channels, one should be on each. However
> it does make a difference as to primary or secondary, if you have
> other drives attached (such as cdrom). Try putting the cdrom as
> primary, then secondary, and have a watch to discover the difference.
> This might not be noticed with a normal secondary hard drive, as you
> may not write to it much. However in a mirror the second is always
> written to, and you will notice the difference if you are also using
> the cdrom
> 
Apologies to everyone, but I'm still a little confused...

If the hard drive has a decent buffer, then doesn't (or at least
couldn't) a write free up the IDE channel right after the buffer fills
and before the buffer empties and the write is complete?  In which case,
can't a second write to the other drive on the channel overlap the first
disk writing out its buffer?  At the very least couldn't gmirror have
the smarts to do this by interleaving the main and mirrored writes
appropriately (given the size of the buffers)?  Of course, mirroring
should go faster if the mirror is on a different channel.

As for a write to a secondary drive being slower than the same write to
a primary drive... Why should that be?  Doesn't the write data contain
the address (0=primary or 1=secondary) on the IDE channel of the drive
to which the write is going?  If this is the case, then why should one
be slower than the other?

Thanks for the help!

-gayn

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Re: (no subject)

2005-11-05 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday,  5 November 2005 at 23:58:11 +0200, Maksim Skvarnik wrote:
> Hello freebsd-questions,
>
>   I want to publisher FreeBsd in my town. I leave in Slavutich. It's
>   near the Chornobil nuclear power plant. Please, sent me CD with
>   latest version FreeBsd.

You can download it off the net.  Visit http://www.FreeBSD.org/ and
follow the links.

Greg
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2005-11-05 Thread Maksim Skvarnik
Hello freebsd-questions,

  I want to publisher FreeBsd in my town. I leave in Slavutich. It's
  near the Chornobil nuclear power plant. Please, sent me CD with
  latest version FreeBsd.


Maksim Skvarnik
Moskovsky 11/46
Slavutich
Kyivskya obl.
Ukraine
07100  

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Re: Stop in subversion-perl

2005-11-05 Thread Don Hinton
Hi Gerard:

On Saturday 05 November 2005 13:57, Gerard Seibert wrote:
> I am sure that someone else has all ready asked this question, but I have
> not come across it.
>
> When trying to build 'subversion-perl', I receive this error message:
>
> //Start error message Snippet//
>
> /usr/local/bin/swig -noproxy -nopm -perl
> -I../../../../../subversion/bindings/sw
> ig -I../../../../../subversion/bindings/swig/perl/libsvn_swig_perl
> -I../../../..
> /../subversion/include -I/usr/local/include/apr-1  -o core.c
> ../../../../../subv
> ersion/bindings/swig/core.i
> /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr.h:389: Error: no decision has been made on
> APR_PATH
> _MAX for your platform
> *** Error code 1

Since the swig preprocessor doesn't load all the system headers, unless you 
pass -includeall, it has not way to know that they system defined PATH_MAX, 
i.e., it doesn't load limits.h, et al. 

I'm not sure what the right fix would be, but you can edit apr.i and add 
#define PATH_MAX 1024, or whatever it's supposed to be on your system, just 
before %include apr.h.  

apr.i can be found here:

/usr/ports/devel/subversion-perl/work/subversion-1.2.3/subversion/bindings/swig/apr.i

As for the correct value, this is what I get:

$ cpp -dM /usr/local/include/apr-1/apr.h |grep PATH_MAX
#define _XOPEN_PATH_MAX 1024
#define _POSIX_PATH_MAX 256
#define APR_PATH_MAX PATH_MAX
#define PATH_MAX 1024

So 1024 looks right...

hth...
don

btw, I don't like the new logo either...

>
> Stop in
> /usr/ports/devel/subversion-perl/work/subversion-1.2.3/subversion/bindin
> gs/swig/perl/native.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/devel/subversion-perl/work/subversion-1.2.3.
> *** Error code 1
>
> Stop in /usr/ports/devel/subversion-perl.
>
> //end error message snippet//
>
> What can I do to alleviate this situation?

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Re: safe to delete /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg libs

2005-11-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 04:26:20PM -0500, Nicolas Blais wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> When I update using portupgrade, sometimes replaced libs are sent 
> to /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg, for backward compatibility I presume. 
> 
> My question is, how do I know if librairies in that folder are safe to 
> delete? 
> I checked today, and there are libs that are 8 months old which I assume 
> aren't used since a newer version exists in /usr/local/lib and I always keep 
> my system up to date, compiling from source.

Install the libchk port, which will tell you.

Of course, you should always make a backup first, just in case.

Kris


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safe to delete /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg libs

2005-11-05 Thread Nicolas Blais
Hi,

When I update using portupgrade, sometimes replaced libs are sent 
to /usr/local/lib/compat/pkg, for backward compatibility I presume. 

My question is, how do I know if librairies in that folder are safe to delete? 
I checked today, and there are libs that are 8 months old which I assume 
aren't used since a newer version exists in /usr/local/lib and I always keep 
my system up to date, compiling from source.

Thanks,
Nicolas.
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Re: GAMING

2005-11-05 Thread Andrew P.
On 11/5/05, jason henson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> rick wrote:
>
> >how is freebsd for gaming needs ive used linux and windows for years.???
>
> If you used linux, you should not have a problem.  Video card drivers
> would be your limiting point, I would suggest you use nvidia because of it.
>

Well, to be fair, there are problems with linux games
on FreeBSD. But they are generally easily resolved.

*BSD is still a few years (months?) off from entering
the desktop (and gaming) market, but it will, and when
it does, all its strengths will shine. Commercially
speaking, if you want to see (preview) the future now,
learn FreeBSD, use it, love it.

Yesterday, I spent 4 hours playing UT2004. And it
seemed to run faster than on Windows. At least it
felt much cooler :-)
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i need some suggestions

2005-11-05 Thread Bob Ababurko

Hello-

I am looking for some ammunition.  My employer is all of a sudden 
enthralled with plesk.  I guess the customers are asking for it.  What 
can they want it for?  Mail account creation, web stats and i dont 
really know.  First I should say, what we do.  It is basically a little 
web/app developing, hosting gig which is growing.   I do all the system 
administration and network administration.


I can say that my motivation is self centered for either reason, that I 
hate working with plesk.  I am hoping that I would be able to find some 
more reasons why implementing plesk is not a good idea so that I can 
approach him with something other than my own contempt.  Like I said, I 
do not seem to have these reasons in my head yet.  The reasons that I 
thought of already is that having all the services on one machine is not 
so good.but why?  All I can think of is that administration is much 
harder, especially when there are more than one plesk machine.  We 
already have separate services running on separate boxes...mail, db, and 
many web, but it seems that everyone likes a gui.  btw, we are running 
all of our services on FreeBSD.  I didn't really know what other list to 
do this on since their isn't an anti-plesk list that I know of.I wish!


If anyone has any ideas or options of why we should not use plesk, I 
would like to hear some refreshing insight other than my brain at the 
moment.


thanks,
Bob
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Re: Adding Packages

2005-11-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 12:40:10PM -0600, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
> Greeting All,
> 
> I want to add a Samba Server from the pkg_add command on my FreeBSD 4.11 
> but another specialized application has installed gettext-0.13.1_1 and 
> the /stand/sysinstall says that it fails the dependency for gettext.

That's too vague a description for me to help.

What does pkg_add say *precisely*?

Kris


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Re: about building release 6.0

2005-11-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 06:48:59PM +, Antoine Solomon wrote:
> My goal was to create the iso images of the fbsd-6-0. I successfully did it
> using release of 5.4 and release branch 5.x but when doing it for
> 6.0release it gives me that perl problem. The instructions which I
> used are
> from
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/ and of course
> man relase. Also I did not check out the src to /usr/src but in a none std
> location "/opt/freebsd" I wanted to keep these builds seperate from the
> system and did not want to upgrade the server which is handling these
> builds.

Doing cross-releases isn't supported.

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Re: ULE or 4BSD

2005-11-05 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 01:42:40PM +0300, Andrew P. wrote:
> On 11/5/05, Albert Shih <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi anybody
> >
> > All is in the subject...on FreeBSD 6.0 i've see the default generic kernel
> > is compiled with SCHED_4BSD and SCHED_ULE is in comment.
> >
> > Can'I use SCHED_ULE on 6.0 ? Is he stable now ?
> >
> > Regards.
> > --
> > Albert SHIH
> > Universite de Paris 7 (Denis DIDEROT)
> > U.F.R. de Mathematiques.
> > Heure local/Local time:
> > Sat Nov 5 10:05:36 CET 2005
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> Not yet, no, sorry. It's pretty stable now that 6.0 is
> out, but you'll have to conduct extensive testing
> (yourself) before you put it in production, where it
> might give you a noticable performance boost.

Or slowdown, as in my testing.

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Re: Problems on start of my system

2005-11-05 Thread Alex de Kruijff
Please don't toppost, that way its easier for other to read and learn
from this example.

On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 02:07:33PM -0200, alicornio wrote:
> Em (11:42:20), [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: 
> 
> 
> >On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 02:02:49AM -0200, alicornio wrote: 
> >> I have a problem on start of my system, appear this mesage: 
> >> 
> >> Staring file system checks: 
> >> /dev/ad0s1a: 1304 files, 18242 used, 300053 free (1149 frags, 37363 
> >blocks, 
> >> 0.4% fragmentation) 
> >> /dev/ad0s1g: DEFER FOR BACKGROUND CHECKING 
> >> /dev/ad0s1f: DEFER FOR BACKGROUND CHECKING 
> >> /dev/ad0s1d: DEFER FOR BACKGROUND CHECKING 
> >> /dev/ad0s1e: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS 
> >> /dev/ad0s1e: clean, 57112 free (40 frags, 7134 bloks, 0,1% fragmentation) 
> >> WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted 
> >> ad0: FAILURE - READ-DMA status=51 ERROR=40 
> >> LBA=2398527 
> >> mount: /dev/ad0s1: input/output error 
> >> WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted 
> >> WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted 
> >> mounting /etc/fstab filesystems failed, start up aborted 
> >> ad0: FAILURE - READ-DMA status=51 ERROR=40 
> >> LBA=2191743 
> >> boot interruped 
> >> enter full pathname of shell or return for /bin/sh: 
> >> 
> >> I type something and the system reboot after this mesages: 
> >> 
> >> panic: vrele: negative refe cnt 
> >> cannot dump: no dump device defined 
> >> 
> >> Someone can help me whith this problem? what?s happenig? how i can solve 
> >> this? 
> > 
> >It seems your system is not able to mount certain filesystems as stated 
> >in fstabs. You could try /sbin/fsck -y (say yes to everything) afther 
> >you enter the shell. Also check /etc/fstabs to see if it contains 
> >errors. 
> > 
> I try every combination of fsck and fsck_ffs, somes: 
> 
> #mkdir /teste 
> #mount -f /dev/ad0s1 /teste 
> #fsck -t ffs -Fy /teste 
> fstab: /etc/fstab:0: No such file or directory 
> fstab: /etc/fstab:0: No such file or directory 
> ** /dev/ad0s1 (NO WRITE) 
> ** Last Mounted on /teste 
> ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes 
> ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames 
> ** Phase 3 - Check Connentivity 
> ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts 
> ** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups 
> 1304 files, 18242 used, 300053 free (1149 frags, 37363 blocks, 0.4% 
> fragmentation) 
> 
> #fsck -t ffs -p /teste 
> /dev/ad0s1: NO WRITE ACCESS 
> /dev/ad0s1: UNEXPECTED ICONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY 

Root is mounted with read only acces.

Do this

fsck -p
mount -u /
fsck /dev/ad0s1

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Re: CD burning no longer working

2005-11-05 Thread David Fleck

On Sat, 5 Nov 2005, Fabian Keil wrote:

I never used burncd, but "/dev/acd0c" looks strange to me.

The device is "/dev/acd0" and even the man page says
"burncd -f /dev/acd0 data file1 fixate".


Not my manpage:

EXAMPLES
 The typical usage for burning a data CD-R:

   burncd -f /dev/acd0c data file1 fixate


in fact, my version doesn't recognize /dev/acd0 at all:
# burncd -f /dev/acd0 data /misc/backup_assemble/backup051105.iso fixate
burncd: open(/dev/acd0): No such file or directory

but I'll give cdrecord a try.

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Stop in subversion-perl

2005-11-05 Thread Gerard Seibert
I am sure that someone else has all ready asked this question, but I have 
not come across it.


When trying to build 'subversion-perl', I receive this error message:

//Start error message Snippet//

/usr/local/bin/swig -noproxy -nopm -perl 
-I../../../../../subversion/bindings/sw
ig -I../../../../../subversion/bindings/swig/perl/libsvn_swig_perl 
-I../../../..
/../subversion/include -I/usr/local/include/apr-1  -o core.c 
../../../../../subv

ersion/bindings/swig/core.i
/usr/local/include/apr-1/apr.h:389: Error: no decision has been made on 
APR_PATH

_MAX for your platform
*** Error code 1

Stop in 
/usr/ports/devel/subversion-perl/work/subversion-1.2.3/subversion/bindin

gs/swig/perl/native.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/subversion-perl/work/subversion-1.2.3.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/devel/subversion-perl.

//end error message snippet//

What can I do to alleviate this situation?

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Abiword messing up Xfce

2005-11-05 Thread Marco Beishuizen

Hi,

I just upgraded the Abiword port to 2.4.1. But after installation Abiword 
didn't start up, but gave an error message instead:
/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libgtk-x11-2.0.so.600" not found, 
required by "abiword".


I thought I just needed to start X again, so I did, but that also doesn't 
work anymore. Same message: /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object 
"libgtk-x11-2.0.so.600" not found, required by "xfce-session".


Strange thing is that libgtk-x11-2.0.so.600 is present in /usr/x11R6/lib.

Anyone an idea what to do next?

Thanks,
Marco

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Re: about building release 6.0

2005-11-05 Thread Antoine Solomon
My goal was to create the iso images of the fbsd-6-0. I successfully did it
using release of 5.4 and release branch 5.x but when doing it for
6.0release it gives me that perl problem. The instructions which I
used are
from
http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/ and of course
man relase. Also I did not check out the src to /usr/src but in a none std
location "/opt/freebsd" I wanted to keep these builds seperate from the
system and did not want to upgrade the server which is handling these
builds.

Antoine

On 11/5/05, Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Antoine Solomon wrote:
> > I keep getting this particular error when attempting to building
> > FreeBSD-6-0..
> > Here is the log file
> >
>
> Why don't you first tell us HOW your upgrading from whatever version you
> had to 6.0-RELEASE.
>
> Many times, the user never really reads the proper way to do this. Many
> times the issue is inverting or skipping steps in the process.
>
> IE: Did you cvsup the src? If so - tell us what you did.
> Is this a clean install? If so, from ROM, FTP, what.
>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Chris
>
> If a thing is done wrong ofter enough
> it becomes right.
>



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Re: ASUS A8N-SLI raid Question

2005-11-05 Thread jason henson

Martin McCann wrote:

Hi all, 

 I've recently updated to 64 bit (spending way to much money in the process!) 
and want to get freebsd 6.0 64 bit installed. I am running windows 64 on it 
(the main reason for the upgrade was games) so it will be dual boot. I have 
freebsd on a 32 bit system on a kvm switch, so it is not essential to get it 
on the 64 bit system, but I would like to give it a go. 

My specific question is, the install doesn't seem to pick up the raid, it 
comes up with ad12 and ad14, reporting both as 80 gig drives, as opposed to 
the 160 gig raid-0 it should see. Any suggestions on that? 

My other question is just feedback in generally, anyone out there with 
experience installing 64 bit 6.0 version on an nforce 4 mobo, and any 
problems I might encounter? I am assuming there are no drivers for SLI mode, 
is this right, and any sign of them on the horizon? 



Cheers, 
Martin 



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Check the list archives or man pages for detials, but I don't think 
FreeBSD supports many hardware raid disk formats, that is why you see 
two 80gig disks.  You will need to do some checking on it, you may have 
to do software raid on it.


See also http://www.nvidia.com/object/freebsd_1.0-7676.html
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Adding Packages

2005-11-05 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Greeting All,

I want to add a Samba Server from the pkg_add command on my FreeBSD 4.11 
but another specialized application has installed gettext-0.13.1_1 and 
the /stand/sysinstall says that it fails the dependency for gettext.


How can I install a package from a freebsd ftp site and tell it to skip 
this particular dependency?


Additionally, I have also tried to get a local copy of the 4.11 release 
on my new server so I might be able to get the package from there if I 
can figure out how to do the install via the PKG_ commands.


Can someone please give me a simple example of how to do this?

Thanks,
Lonnie

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abcde ripping to mp3 and ogg using different folders

2005-11-05 Thread Dave

Hello,
Got a question. I've got some cd's i'd like to take and make mp3's out of 
them. I've defined lame opts in my abcde.conf and i'd also like to rip .ogg 
files at the same time. Doing this i'd like to store the mp3 version of the 
disk and the .ogg version in separate folders under one root area. Has 
anyone done this?

Thanks.
Dave.

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Re: GAMING

2005-11-05 Thread jason henson

rick wrote:


how is freebsd for gaming needs ive used linux and windows for years.???
thanks rick
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If you used linux, you should not have a problem.  Video card drivers 
would be your limiting point, I would suggest you use nvidia because of it.

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Re: about building release 6.0

2005-11-05 Thread Chris
Antoine Solomon wrote:
> I keep getting this particular error when attempting to building
> FreeBSD-6-0..
> Here is the log file
> 

Why don't you first tell us HOW your upgrading from whatever version you
had to 6.0-RELEASE.

Many times, the user never really reads the proper way to do this. Many
times the issue is inverting or skipping steps in the process.

IE: Did you cvsup the src? If so - tell us what you did.
Is this a clean install? If so, from ROM, FTP, what.


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Re: about building release 6.0

2005-11-05 Thread Giorgos Keramidas
On 2005-11-05 17:39, Antoine Solomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I keep getting this particular error when attempting to building
> FreeBSD-6-0..
> Here is the log file
>
> Operating system name? [freebsd]
> Operating system version? [5.4-release-p8]
> Build Perl for SOCKS? [n]
> Use the PerlIO abstraction layer? [y]
> Build a threading Perl? [n]

This is not a build of FreeBSD, but a build log of Perl!

> Checking your choice of C compiler and flags for coherency...
> I've tried to compile and run the following simple program:
>
> #include 
> int main() { printf("Ok\n"); return(0); }
>
> I used the command:
>
> cc -o try -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe
> -DAPPLLIB_EXP="/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.7/BSDPAN" -DHAS_FPSETMASK
> -DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -pthread -Wl,-E try.c -lm -lcrypt -lutil
> ./try
>
> and I got the following output:
>
> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
> The program compiled OK, but exited with status 139.
> You have a problem. Shall I abort Configure [y]
> Ok. Stopping Configure.
> ===> Script "Configure" failed unexpectedly.
> Please report the problem to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [maintainer] and attach the
> "/usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/perl-5.8.7/config.log" including the output of
> the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide
> an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls
> /var/db/pkg`).
> *** Error code 1

Do as the message above says, please :)

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Question about FreeBSD Handbook

2005-11-05 Thread Arseny Solokha
Hello!

I'v partially read FreeBSD Handbook. To my mind this documentation had been 
wrote most about releases 4 and 5 newest than 5.2.1. In beginning of the 
documentation, in chapter 2.3.2 you wrote about Kernel Configuration. How to 
start Kernel Configuration in release 5.2.1? Should I edit kernel configuration 
file and rebuild a kernel? By this way, I have troubles while I rebuild a 
kernel! 'Make' returns errors while kernel linking was started. I should attach 
my kernel configuration file but BSD works on virtual machine and I need to 
copy this file on a USB flash but I don't know how to connect it to BSD.

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GAMING

2005-11-05 Thread rick
how is freebsd for gaming needs ive used linux and windows for years.???
 thanks rick
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about building release 6.0

2005-11-05 Thread Antoine Solomon
I keep getting this particular error when attempting to building
FreeBSD-6-0..
Here is the log file


Operating system name? [freebsd]
Operating system version? [5.4-release-p8]
Build Perl for SOCKS? [n]
Use the PerlIO abstraction layer? [y]
Build a threading Perl? [n]
Build Perl for multiplicity? [n]
Use which C compiler? [cc]
Checking for GNU cc in disguise and/or its version number...
Now, how can we feed standard input to your C preprocessor...
Directories to use for library searches? [/usr/lib]
What is the file extension used for shared libraries? [so]
Try to use long doubles if available? [n]
Checking for optional libraries...
What libraries to use? [-lm -lcrypt -lutil]
What optimizer/debugger flag should be used?
[-O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe ]
Any additional cc flags?
[-DAPPLLIB_EXP="/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.7/BSDPAN" -DHAS_FPSETMASK
-DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H]
Let me guess what the preprocessor flags are...
Any additional ld flags (NOT including libraries)? [-pthread -Wl,-E]
Checking your choice of C compiler and flags for coherency...
I've tried to compile and run the following simple program:

#include 
int main() { printf("Ok\n"); return(0); }

I used the command:

cc -o try -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe
-DAPPLLIB_EXP="/usr/local/lib/perl5/5.8.7/BSDPAN" -DHAS_FPSETMASK
-DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -pthread -Wl,-E try.c -lm -lcrypt -lutil
./try

and I got the following output:

Segmentation fault (core dumped)
The program compiled OK, but exited with status 139.
You have a problem. Shall I abort Configure [y]
Ok. Stopping Configure.
===> Script "Configure" failed unexpectedly.
Please report the problem to [EMAIL PROTECTED] [maintainer] and attach the
"/usr/ports/lang/perl5.8/work/perl-5.8.7/config.log" including the output of
the failure of your make command. Also, it might be a good idea to provide
an overview of all packages installed on your system (e.g. an `ls
/var/db/pkg`).
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/lang/perl5.8.
+ umount /dev
1 error
*** Error code 1


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Re: update kde

2005-11-05 Thread RW
On Saturday 05 November 2005 17:27, eoghan wrote:
> On 5 Nov 2005, at 17:13, RW wrote:
> > On Saturday 05 November 2005 16:16, eoghan wrote:
> >> Hello
> >> Im just looking for some advice. Ive updated my ports since kde has
> >> gone to 3.4.3. Im currently using 3.4.2. I want to upgrade. But Im
> >> not sure if I do this will I loose all my current settings - like
> >> desktop items etc. Also, do I do a pkg_remove kde3 and then pkg_add -
> >> r kde3? I dont want to try anything just yet in case I mess things
> >> up...
> >
> > You shouldn't lose any settings unless someone has screwed up (I
> > usually
> > hold-off major upgrades for a week or so to catch immediate bug-
> > fixes).
> >
> > There are instructions here:
> >
> > http://freebsd.kde.org/instructions.php
> >
> > Note that you will need to set PACKAGESITE to a source of the new
> > packages
> > otherwise you will simply reinstall to old version. I used to use the
> > fruitsalad servers, although I build KDE from ports these days.
>
> Id use the port. But I have to remove kde3 first right?

Well, you were talking about using pkg_add which installs binary packages, 
rather than building a port.

In either case,  using portupgrade avoids manual deletion.
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Re: update kde

2005-11-05 Thread eoghan

On 5 Nov 2005, at 17:13, RW wrote:


On Saturday 05 November 2005 16:16, eoghan wrote:

Hello
Im just looking for some advice. Ive updated my ports since kde has
gone to 3.4.3. Im currently using 3.4.2. I want to upgrade. But Im
not sure if I do this will I loose all my current settings - like
desktop items etc. Also, do I do a pkg_remove kde3 and then pkg_add -
r kde3? I dont want to try anything just yet in case I mess things  
up...


You shouldn't lose any settings unless someone has screwed up (I  
usually
hold-off major upgrades for a week or so to catch immediate bug- 
fixes).


There are instructions here:

http://freebsd.kde.org/instructions.php

Note that you will need to set PACKAGESITE to a source of the new  
packages

otherwise you will simply reinstall to old version. I used to use the
fruitsalad servers, although I build KDE from ports these days.



Id use the port. But I have to remove kde3 first right?

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ASUS A8N-SLI raid Question

2005-11-05 Thread Martin McCann

Hi all, 

  I've recently updated to 64 bit (spending way to much money in the process!) 
and want to get freebsd 6.0 64 bit installed. I am running windows 64 on it 
(the main reason for the upgrade was games) so it will be dual boot. I have 
freebsd on a 32 bit system on a kvm switch, so it is not essential to get it 
on the 64 bit system, but I would like to give it a go. 

My specific question is, the install doesn't seem to pick up the raid, it 
comes up with ad12 and ad14, reporting both as 80 gig drives, as opposed to 
the 160 gig raid-0 it should see. Any suggestions on that? 

My other question is just feedback in generally, anyone out there with 
experience installing 64 bit 6.0 version on an nforce 4 mobo, and any 
problems I might encounter? I am assuming there are no drivers for SLI mode, 
is this right, and any sign of them on the horizon? 


Cheers, 
Martin 


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Re: update kde

2005-11-05 Thread RW
On Saturday 05 November 2005 16:16, eoghan wrote:
> Hello
> Im just looking for some advice. Ive updated my ports since kde has
> gone to 3.4.3. Im currently using 3.4.2. I want to upgrade. But Im
> not sure if I do this will I loose all my current settings - like
> desktop items etc. Also, do I do a pkg_remove kde3 and then pkg_add -
> r kde3? I dont want to try anything just yet in case I mess things up...

You shouldn't lose any settings unless someone has screwed up (I usually 
hold-off major upgrades for a week or so to catch immediate bug-fixes).

There are instructions here:

http://freebsd.kde.org/instructions.php

Note that you will need to set PACKAGESITE to a source of the new packages 
otherwise you will simply reinstall to old version. I used to use the 
fruitsalad servers, although I build KDE from ports these days.
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Re: update kde

2005-11-05 Thread eoghan

On 5 Nov 2005, at 16:45, Mike Hernandez wrote:

On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 04:16:32PM +, eoghan wrote:

Hello
Im just looking for some advice. Ive updated my ports since kde has
gone to 3.4.3. Im currently using 3.4.2. I want to upgrade. But Im
not sure if I do this will I loose all my current settings - like
desktop items etc. Also, do I do a pkg_remove kde3 and then pkg_add -
r kde3? I dont want to try anything just yet in case I mess things  
up...


I've been updating my ports tree constantly and haven't noticed the  
kde
version bump up to 3.4.3 yet. Was it done recently? I was hoping  
that with

the release of 6.0 that the ports tree would have been updated :)

Mike


yep: see
http://freebsd.kde.org
i just cvsup'd mine and its 3.4.3 now...
im running off 5.4. How do you normally update your kde?



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Re: update kde

2005-11-05 Thread Mike Hernandez
On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 04:16:32PM +, eoghan wrote:
> Hello
> Im just looking for some advice. Ive updated my ports since kde has  
> gone to 3.4.3. Im currently using 3.4.2. I want to upgrade. But Im  
> not sure if I do this will I loose all my current settings - like  
> desktop items etc. Also, do I do a pkg_remove kde3 and then pkg_add - 
> r kde3? I dont want to try anything just yet in case I mess things up...

I've been updating my ports tree constantly and haven't noticed the kde
version bump up to 3.4.3 yet. Was it done recently? I was hoping that with
the release of 6.0 that the ports tree would have been updated :)

Mike
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Re: jdk14 without X libraries?

2005-11-05 Thread Alex Ford
On Fri, 2005-11-04 at 23:48 -0400, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
> >On 11/4/05, Alex Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You can add WITHOUT_X11=yes to your /etc/make.conf and that will build
> > our ports without any X11 support (if they have that particular
> > configure option available to them).

> Thanks, I'm currently doing this too.
> 
> Is there a master list of supported options in make.conf? I looked in
> the sample make.conf and the make.conf manpage, and I don't see this
> option.
> 
> Mike

I am not aware of a master list, hopefully somebody will enlighten us,
as I would really love to have a resource like that. There is, however
a /usr/ports/KNOBS file that you can look at that has a lot of common
ones available while compiling ports.

You can use WITH_=yes/no or WITHOUT_=yes/no with those.

-Alex

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Re: Problems on start of my system

2005-11-05 Thread Reko Turja
- Original Message - 
From: "alicornio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2005 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: Problems on start of my system



Hi Alex

I try every combination of fsck and fsck_ffs, somes:

#mkdir /teste
#mount -f /dev/ad0s1 /teste
#fsck -t ffs -Fy /teste


Do not run the fsck on mounted filesystem; boot in singleuser mode and 
run


fsck -y /dev/ad0s1

from there - before mounting the faulting slice.

-Reko 
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Re: CD burning no longer working

2005-11-05 Thread Fabian Keil
David Fleck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> System: FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p11
> 
> dmesg:
> acd0:  CD-RW drive at ata1 as master
> acd0: read 689KB/s (6032KB/s) write 344KB/s (8273KB/s), 2048KB
> buffer, PIO4 acd0: Reads: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA stream, packet
> acd0: Writes: CD-R, CD-RW, test write, burnproof
> acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels
> acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray, unlocked
> acd0: Medium: no/blank disc
> 
> The system has a CD-RW device which has, in the past, worked fine.
> Trying to burn an .iso right now, however, and getting the following
> behavior:
> 
>   # burncd -f /dev/acd0c data /misc/backup_assemble/backup051105.iso
> fixate next writeable LBA 0
>   writing from file /misc/backup_assemble/backup051105.iso size
> 408480 KB written this track 1472 KB (0%) total 1472 KB
>   only wrote -1 of 32768 bytes err=5
> 
>   fixating CD, please wait..
>   burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCFIXATE): Input/output error
> 
> while the kernel complains:
>   Nov  5 09:15:10 grond /kernel: acd0: WRITE_BIG - MEDIUM ERROR
> asc=0x02 ascq=0x00 error=0x00 Nov  5 09:15:10 grond /kernel: acd0:
> CLOSE_TRACK/SESSION - ILLEGAL REQUEST asc=0x72 ascq=0x04 error=0x00
> 
> Same behavior with 2 different CDs.
> Used to work, now it doesn't, so I'm tempted to blame the hardware.
> But does anyone have any more specific ideas of what might be going
> on here?

I never used burncd, but "/dev/acd0c" looks strange to me.

The device is "/dev/acd0" and even the man page says
"burncd -f /dev/acd0 data file1 fixate".

However you might want to give cdrecord a try to see if it works.

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update kde

2005-11-05 Thread eoghan

Hello
Im just looking for some advice. Ive updated my ports since kde has  
gone to 3.4.3. Im currently using 3.4.2. I want to upgrade. But Im  
not sure if I do this will I loose all my current settings - like  
desktop items etc. Also, do I do a pkg_remove kde3 and then pkg_add - 
r kde3? I dont want to try anything just yet in case I mess things up...

Thanks
Eoghan
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Re: Problems on start of my system

2005-11-05 Thread alicornio
Hi guy 

I try every combination of fsck and fsck_ffs but i can´t resolve this. 

There is some way to correct it? 

thanks 

Thiago 


Em (15:49:33), =?utf-8?q?Micha=C5=82_Mas=C5=82owski?= escreveu: 


>> ad0: FAILURE - READ-DMA status=51 ERROR=40 
>> LBA=2398527 
>[...] 
>> panic: vrele: negative refe cnt 
>> cannot dump: no dump device defined 
> 
>It is caused by unmounting file systems with i/o errors. If your disk 
cannot 
>remap faulty sectors, you should buy new disk. Usually `fsck -y` should 
>help. 
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Re: Problems on start of my system

2005-11-05 Thread alicornio
Hi Alex 

I try every combination of fsck and fsck_ffs, somes: 

#mkdir /teste 
#mount -f /dev/ad0s1 /teste 
#fsck -t ffs -Fy /teste 
fstab: /etc/fstab:0: No such file or directory 
fstab: /etc/fstab:0: No such file or directory 
** /dev/ad0s1 (NO WRITE) 
** Last Mounted on /teste 
** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes 
** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames 
** Phase 3 - Check Connentivity 
** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts 
** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups 
1304 files, 18242 used, 300053 free (1149 frags, 37363 blocks, 0.4% 
fragmentation) 

#fsck -t ffs -p /teste 
/dev/ad0s1: NO WRITE ACCESS 
/dev/ad0s1: UNEXPECTED ICONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY 

(i done chmod 777 /teste) 

My /etc/fstab is OK. 

Could be some badblock on my disk? 

thanks 

Thiago 


Em (11:42:20), [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: 


>On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 02:02:49AM -0200, alicornio wrote: 
>> I have a problem on start of my system, appear this mesage: 
>> 
>> Staring file system checks: 
>> /dev/ad0s1a: 1304 files, 18242 used, 300053 free (1149 frags, 37363 
>blocks, 
>> 0.4% fragmentation) 
>> /dev/ad0s1g: DEFER FOR BACKGROUND CHECKING 
>> /dev/ad0s1f: DEFER FOR BACKGROUND CHECKING 
>> /dev/ad0s1d: DEFER FOR BACKGROUND CHECKING 
>> /dev/ad0s1e: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS 
>> /dev/ad0s1e: clean, 57112 free (40 frags, 7134 bloks, 0,1% fragmentation) 
>> WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted 
>> ad0: FAILURE - READ-DMA status=51 ERROR=40 
>> LBA=2398527 
>> mount: /dev/ad0s1: input/output error 
>> WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted 
>> WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted 
>> mounting /etc/fstab filesystems failed, start up aborted 
>> ad0: FAILURE - READ-DMA status=51 ERROR=40 
>> LBA=2191743 
>> boot interruped 
>> enter full pathname of shell or return for /bin/sh: 
>> 
>> I type something and the system reboot after this mesages: 
>> 
>> panic: vrele: negative refe cnt 
>> cannot dump: no dump device defined 
>> 
>> Someone can help me whith this problem? what?s happenig? how i can solve 
>> this? 
> 
>It seems your system is not able to mount certain filesystems as stated 
>in fstabs. You could try /sbin/fsck -y (say yes to everything) afther 
>you enter the shell. Also check /etc/fstabs to see if it contains 
>errors. 
> 
>-- 
>Alex 
> 
>Please copy the original recipients, otherwise I may not read your reply. 
> 
>Howto's based on my ppersonal use, including information about 
>setting up a firewall and creating traffic graphs with MRTG 
>http://www.kruijff.org/alex/FreeBSD/ 
> 
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Latitude C610 touchpad

2005-11-05 Thread Jared Feider
The mouse pad operates somewhat but the clicks (mouspad or keyboard) do not
function.  Using sysinstall/mouse I can see the cursor move using auto
detect.  Loaded fresh freebsd 6.0 on Dell latitude C610.

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Re: how to upgrade?

2005-11-05 Thread Jerry McAllister
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm sure this question has been asked before, but I couldn't find any
> good help in the documentation, and its only my 5th day using freebsd
> so i'm not really sure where to look.
> 
> i installed 5.4-RELEASE from a CD and I want to upgrade to 6.0-RELEASE
> using binary packages.  my computer is far too slow and doesn't really
> have enough hard drive space to compile the entire BSD system, nor do
> I have a CD burner to make myself a new CD.  how do I upgrade my
> system from binary packages without breaking it in the middle?

If you have only had FreeBSD on the machine for 5 days, you might
want to consider just starting over with a scratch install.   Just
save off any few files you have created in those 5 days somewhere
and then do a regular install of V-6 and put back what you need.
That would get you a clean copy of everything.

> once again, i apologize if this has been asked too many times.  even a
> vague reference to some 3 year old mailing list post will probably
> help me though.

On the other hand, if the idea of learning the upgrade process is
a higher priority that just getting to V-6, then, yes, it is extensively
documented in the handbook and in lots of online publications and 
private web pages and in the archives.   Most of these will not 
refer specifically to doing a 5.4 to 6.0 upgrade, but the process
will be the same.

jerry

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Odd boot problem

2005-11-05 Thread Joao Barros
Hi,

I needed to add an IDE disk to an already running SCSI booting machine
for testing.
Recently upgraded to 6.0 :) with the IDE disk connected to the
machine, although not mounted.
After a make kernel the machine boots fine but only if I have the IDE
disk connected.
Booting from the scsi disk I can clearly see it's trying to find the
load from the ide disk.
I tried 'atacontrol detach ata0' and reinstalling the kernel and tried
a bsdlabel -B da0 but I still get the error, boot message follows:

F1 FreeBSD

Default: F1

Invalid partition
Invalid partition
No /boot/loader

FreeBSD/i386 boot
Default: 0:ad(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel
boot:


I tried 0:da(0,a)/boot/kernel/kernel but still no go.
How can I fix this?


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RE: getting an old NIC to work

2005-11-05 Thread Steve Bertrand

> Nope, generic kernel, not rebuilt at all.  Yes, 192.168.1.1 
> does work from other machines on the local network.  For 
> example, here's the netstat from the machine I'm writing on 
> this minute:
> 
> working_machine>$ netstat -rn
> Routing tables
> 
> Internet:
> DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs  Use  
> Netif Expire
> default192.168.1.1UGSc20ed0
> 127.0.0.1  127.0.0.1  UH  122924lo0
> 192.168.1  link#1 UC  40ed0
> 192.168.1.100:09:5b:50:37:76  UHLW3 9263  
>   ed0   1199
> 192.168.1.200:40:05:55:aa:68  UHLW5  102lo0
> 192.168.1.300:0c:41:0c:95:d0  UHLW012790  
>   ed0   1134
> 192.168.1.400:c0:26:c0:ec:89  UHLW121435  
>   ed0847
> 
> this one's working fine.

It appears as though everything is in order. The routes are in place,
IP/SN is all correct etc.

You are going to have to take a step down now to the lower layers of the
network stack.

Perform this command while plugged into the network and let it run a
while:

# tcpdump -n -i pcn0

What this will do is see if the nic can see traffic coming from other
machines. Throw some pings at it from another box, and even if the other
box doesn't get a reply, tcpdump will tell you if the nic can at least
see the incoming traffic. Also, run tcpdump on another box, and repeat
the process, but ping from the box with the 'bad' nic in it. Perhaps it
can send traffic, but just not receive. Doing this both ways will
indicate either way and may give you a clue.

Further that, even farther down, try a different cable and switch port
(one at a time). I know that may seem silly, but weirder things have
happened.

If all of that fails, due to the fact there is a driver loaded for the
device, and it is taking all of it's parameters ok, I would say slap a
new nic in the box and see if you can rx/tx traffic via it. If you can,
I'd say then there is a problem with the nic itself, and you have
confirmed it logically and completely.

Regards,

Steve

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CD burning no longer working

2005-11-05 Thread David Fleck

System: FreeBSD 4.9-RELEASE-p11

dmesg:
acd0:  CD-RW drive at ata1 as master
acd0: read 689KB/s (6032KB/s) write 344KB/s (8273KB/s), 2048KB buffer, PIO4
acd0: Reads: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA stream, packet
acd0: Writes: CD-R, CD-RW, test write, burnproof
acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels
acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray, unlocked
acd0: Medium: no/blank disc

The system has a CD-RW device which has, in the past, worked fine.  Trying 
to burn an .iso right now, however, and getting the following behavior:


 # burncd -f /dev/acd0c data /misc/backup_assemble/backup051105.iso fixate
 next writeable LBA 0
 writing from file /misc/backup_assemble/backup051105.iso size 408480 KB
 written this track 1472 KB (0%) total 1472 KB
 only wrote -1 of 32768 bytes err=5

 fixating CD, please wait..
 burncd: ioctl(CDRIOCFIXATE): Input/output error

while the kernel complains:
 Nov  5 09:15:10 grond /kernel: acd0: WRITE_BIG - MEDIUM ERROR asc=0x02 
ascq=0x00 error=0x00
 Nov  5 09:15:10 grond /kernel: acd0: CLOSE_TRACK/SESSION - ILLEGAL REQUEST 
asc=0x72 ascq=0x04 error=0x00

Same behavior with 2 different CDs.
Used to work, now it doesn't, so I'm tempted to blame the hardware.  But 
does anyone have any more specific ideas of what might be going on here?


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Re: Updating from 5.4-STABLE to 6.0-STABLE

2005-11-05 Thread Anthony M. Agelastos

On Nov 5, 2005, at 9:46 AM, RW wrote:


On Saturday 05 November 2005 13:48, Anthony M. Agelastos wrote:



will updating from 5.4 to 6.0 give me these changes or
will I have to reformat the drives with the updated UFS2?


This was asked and answer yesterday - only 11 threads ago.

I apologize for not finding the "new filesystem improvements in 6.0- 
RELEASE, require newfs?" thread when I did my search. It did answer  
my questions, so thank you for referring me to it.

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Re: Problems on start of my system

2005-11-05 Thread Michał Masłowski
> ad0: FAILURE - READ-DMA status=51 ERROR=40
> LBA=2398527
[...]
> panic: vrele: negative refe cnt
> cannot dump: no dump device defined

It is caused by unmounting file systems with i/o errors. If your disk cannot 
remap faulty sectors, you should buy new disk. Usually `fsck -y` should help.
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Re: Updating from 5.4-STABLE to 6.0-STABLE

2005-11-05 Thread RW
On Saturday 05 November 2005 13:48, Anthony M. Agelastos wrote:


> will updating from 5.4 to 6.0 give me these changes or
> will I have to reformat the drives with the updated UFS2?

This was asked and answer yesterday - only 11 threads ago. 

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Re: how to upgrade?

2005-11-05 Thread Eric F Crist

Sure, why not?

Make sure you have no other users, though.

On Nov 5, 2005, at 8:24 AM, Yaakov Nemoy wrote:


On 11/5/05, Eric F Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Nov 5, 2005, at 6:11 AM, Yaakov Nemoy wrote:


Hi,

I'm sure this question has been asked before, but I couldn't find  
any
good help in the documentation, and its only my 5th day using  
freebsd

so i'm not really sure where to look.

i installed 5.4-RELEASE from a CD and I want to upgrade to 6.0- 
RELEASE
using binary packages.  my computer is far too slow and doesn't  
really
have enough hard drive space to compile the entire BSD system,  
nor do

I have a CD burner to make myself a new CD.  how do I upgrade my
system from binary packages without breaking it in the middle?

once again, i apologize if this has been asked too many times.   
even a

vague reference to some 3 year old mailing list post will probably
help me though.


You *could* browse the list archives, but that *is* a lot of work.  I
suppose I'll just briefly answer this.

boot from cd.
change options so that your version read 6.0-RELEASE
choose upgrade from menu
choose FTP as your installation source
run install


I just finished trying that out.  The 5.4-RELEASE CD doesn't want to
actually connect to any of the servers.  It has no problem getting
DHCP and and IP address, which I find very strange.  I am using an
Acer Extensa laptop from 1998, with a 3com NIC on PCMCIA.  I think its
the "vortex" chipset but i'm not sure.  That could have something to
do with it.

In any case, is it safe to do this procedure from sysinstall running
on the live system itself? is this even possible?

-Yaakov
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Re: how to upgrade?

2005-11-05 Thread Yaakov Nemoy
On 11/5/05, Eric F Crist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 5, 2005, at 6:11 AM, Yaakov Nemoy wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm sure this question has been asked before, but I couldn't find any
> > good help in the documentation, and its only my 5th day using freebsd
> > so i'm not really sure where to look.
> >
> > i installed 5.4-RELEASE from a CD and I want to upgrade to 6.0-RELEASE
> > using binary packages.  my computer is far too slow and doesn't really
> > have enough hard drive space to compile the entire BSD system, nor do
> > I have a CD burner to make myself a new CD.  how do I upgrade my
> > system from binary packages without breaking it in the middle?
> >
> > once again, i apologize if this has been asked too many times.  even a
> > vague reference to some 3 year old mailing list post will probably
> > help me though.
>
> You *could* browse the list archives, but that *is* a lot of work.  I
> suppose I'll just briefly answer this.
>
> boot from cd.
> change options so that your version read 6.0-RELEASE
> choose upgrade from menu
> choose FTP as your installation source
> run install

I just finished trying that out.  The 5.4-RELEASE CD doesn't want to
actually connect to any of the servers.  It has no problem getting
DHCP and and IP address, which I find very strange.  I am using an
Acer Extensa laptop from 1998, with a 3com NIC on PCMCIA.  I think its
the "vortex" chipset but i'm not sure.  That could have something to
do with it.

In any case, is it safe to do this procedure from sysinstall running
on the live system itself? is this even possible?

-Yaakov
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Updating from 5.4-STABLE to 6.0-STABLE

2005-11-05 Thread Anthony M. Agelastos

Hello everyone,

I am preparing my system for syncing with 6.0-STABLE and updating it  
from 5.4-STABLE. In preparation, on the 6.0-RELEASE Announcement  
page, it lists that some of the changes since 5.4 include:


"Significant performance improvements to the filesystem and direct  
disk access layers of the OS. The filesystem is now multithreaded and  
can take full advantage of multiple CPU systems."


This makes it sound as if UFS2 has been updated from 5.4 to 6.0. If  
this is true, will updating from 5.4 to 6.0 give me these changes or  
will I have to reformat the drives with the updated UFS2? When  
FreeBSD 7.0 comes out, I expect it to have the UFS2+Journalling  
extension that someone worked on for the Google Summer of Code. When  
this occurs, is there an easy way of updating the filesystems? If  
there is no easy formatter that leaves the files in-place, what is  
the recommended method of relocating the files, then reformatting  
with the updated filesystem, then putting them back (I don't know if  
tar archives are appropriate for this, or what is recommended). Thank  
you all for your assistance in answering these questions. If I can  
get the exact same system from reinstalling 6.0 from scratch or  
updating from 5.4-STABLE, it would save me a lot of time in  
recompiling the ~400 Ports I have built for this system to just  
update. Any commentary on the issue is welcome. I have searched all  
of the relevant documentation I could find to no avail. If there is  
information posted somewhere on these topics, referencing me to them  
would be greatly appreciated.


-Anthony
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Re: Mounting an iPod

2005-11-05 Thread James Seward
On 11/4/05, edward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Assistance welcome, James. I finally gave up trying to mount the iPod as
> an HFS+ device and reformated it in FAT32. Now I can mount it and access
> its content (I use mount -t msdos /dev/da0s2 /mnt/ipod).
> However, I can unmount it using umount /mnt/ipod, but I'm not quite sure
> how to get it to understand its not connected anymore. I wouldn't mind
> taking a look at the scripts you mentionned early on.
> "The camcontrol utility can cause a loss of data and/or system crashes
> if used improperly.  Even expert users are encouraged to exercise
> caution when using this command.  Novice users should stay away from
> this utility" says the man page. With such an invitation, I can't wait
> to get my hands into this one :).
> Thanks,
> Edward

Here's my script, which I put in /usr/local/bin. You will have to
change the mount point and device for camcontrol to suit your setup.
You may also want to change permissions on things in /dev so that you
can do this as a user. Don't forget that you need to change passN and
xpt0, not just the da device. Look in /etc/devfs.conf to see how to
make the chanages stick, and change the vfs.usermount sysctl to 1. I
based my setup of this on the various documents out there about
user-mounting CDs.

---CUT---
#!/bin/sh

case "$1" in
start)
echo "Mounting ipod..."
mount /ipod
;;
stop)
echo "Ejecting ipod..."
umount /ipod && camcontrol eject 0:0
;;
*)
echo ""
echo "Usage: `basename $0` { start | stop }"
echo ""
exit 64
;;
esac
---CUT---

I just modified one of the rc scripts to make it :) Now I can do "ipod
start" and "ipod stop" to mount and umount/eject it.

On a sort of related note, anyone had problems with gtkpod reporting
double the free space on the ipod? "df" and my iPod agree about the
free space, but gtkpod says that double that amount is free. I've had
this on 5.4 and 6.0 and on both i386 and amd64.
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Re: how to upgrade?

2005-11-05 Thread Eric F Crist

On Nov 5, 2005, at 6:11 AM, Yaakov Nemoy wrote:


Hi,

I'm sure this question has been asked before, but I couldn't find any
good help in the documentation, and its only my 5th day using freebsd
so i'm not really sure where to look.

i installed 5.4-RELEASE from a CD and I want to upgrade to 6.0-RELEASE
using binary packages.  my computer is far too slow and doesn't really
have enough hard drive space to compile the entire BSD system, nor do
I have a CD burner to make myself a new CD.  how do I upgrade my
system from binary packages without breaking it in the middle?

once again, i apologize if this has been asked too many times.  even a
vague reference to some 3 year old mailing list post will probably
help me though.


You *could* browse the list archives, but that *is* a lot of work.  I  
suppose I'll just briefly answer this.


boot from cd.
change options so that your version read 6.0-RELEASE
choose upgrade from menu
choose FTP as your installation source
run install

HTH
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Is there /etc/groups limits?

2005-11-05 Thread Evren Yurtesen

Hi,

Is there a limit on how many groups a user can belong to?
For example

user1:*:1000:www
user2:*:1001:www
user3:*:1002:www
...
...
...

For example, is there a limit which would stop apache to work because 
the www user is member of 1 groups?


Thanks,
Evren
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Re: FreeNX setup failing

2005-11-05 Thread Simon Olofsson
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hi,

I'm using FreeNX and the linux-nx-client. Everything is working fine and
I installed both from the Ports.
After installing FreeNX I just run /usr/NX/bin/nxserver --useradd 
and it worked. I just have some error messages from the NXClient (some
problems with the Linux Emulation).
HTH

on 11/04/2005 15:33 Soo-Hyun Choi said the following:
> OK.
> 
> Is anyone using FreeNX in this FreeBSD community? Are you only using
> VNC? What kind of this sort of application are you using?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> On 11/3/05, Soo-Hyun Choi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>I've successfully installed FreeNX stated from
>>http://www.deweyonline.com/nx/freebsd.html
>>
>>After installation, I tried to setup FreeNX server as the below but failed.
>>
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ sudo nxsetup --install
>>Setting up /usr/X11R6/NX/etc/nxserver/ ...done
>>Setting up /var/lib/nxserver/ ...done
>>Setting up /var/log/nxserver.log ...done
>>Setting up user nx ...pw: option requires an argument -- g
>>pw: unknown switch
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$
>>
>>
>>Does anyone know what's happening in this case?
>>
>>Thanks,

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how to upgrade?

2005-11-05 Thread Yaakov Nemoy
Hi,

I'm sure this question has been asked before, but I couldn't find any
good help in the documentation, and its only my 5th day using freebsd
so i'm not really sure where to look.

i installed 5.4-RELEASE from a CD and I want to upgrade to 6.0-RELEASE
using binary packages.  my computer is far too slow and doesn't really
have enough hard drive space to compile the entire BSD system, nor do
I have a CD burner to make myself a new CD.  how do I upgrade my
system from binary packages without breaking it in the middle?

once again, i apologize if this has been asked too many times.  even a
vague reference to some 3 year old mailing list post will probably
help me though.

-Yaakov
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Re: suspend works, but resume doesn't on Dell desktop

2005-11-05 Thread Fabian Keil
Mohan Singh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have a Dell Dimension 4700, dual booting XP and FreeBSD 5.4. Windows
> can hibernate and stand-by fine. I'm trying to do the same (or at
> least standby) from FreeBSD.
> 
> As I understand it Windows standby == FreeBSD suspend (zzz).
> 
> As root, when I run suspend/zzz, it seems to go into standby mode,
> just like it does in Windows. But when I resume (by hitting the power
> button) it just powers on normally, as if the suspend never happened.
> 
> Of course, FreeBSD is not happy about this because the filesystems
> were not dismounted properly and starts fsck'ing.
> 
> How can I get resume to work properly?

On my ThinkPad R51 I put

acpi_video_load="YES"

in /boot/loader.conf and

hw.acpi.reset_video=0
hw.syscons.sc_no_suspend_vtswitch=1 

in /etc/sysctl.conf.

I don't know if it works on your system as well,
but you might want to try it.

Of course it only gets me S3, not S4. 

Fabian
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Re: How-to rebuild /modules...

2005-11-05 Thread Fabian Keil
Bernt Hansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Without rebuilding world and such things?
> This machine has been up for a long time and nobody realy know's what 
> they have done to it. When i looked at / today i've noticed that 
> /modules was missing. It worked very nice until a sudden reboot, and
> now inn wont work correctly. so I need help I've tried
> cd /sys/modules && make make install but that din't help, also tried
> cd /sys/modules && make all but that render me whit this answer
> Warning: Object directory not changed from
> original /usr/src/sys/modules/ipfw

Which version do you use?

I only use FreeBSD since 5.x, but I never had a /modules directory.
Modules are in /boot/kernel.

Are you sure that your problem is related to the missing /modules
directory? Which modules do you think are needed by inn?

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Re: buildworld

2005-11-05 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 12:14:31AM +0200, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> On 2005-11-01 21:37, eoghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 1 Nov 2005, at 21:11, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> > >On 2005-11-01 20:26, eoghan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>Hello
> > >>Is there a way to tell which freebsd buildworld will make?
> > >
> > >You can guess by looking at:
> > >
> > >/usr/src/sys/conf/newvers.sh
> > >
> > >This will give the version of the kernel, which may not be that useful
> > >for branches that change often, like CURRENT.  It's a good  
> > >indication of
> > >what branch you're building though.
> > >
> > >The value of __FreeBSD_version from /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h is also a
> > >useful number to have.
> > 
> > Thank you Giorgos
> > Let me re-phrase the other part of my question... Given the example
> > supfile:
> > 
> > *default tag=.
> > *default host=cvsup99.FreeBSD.org
> > *default prefix=/usr
> > *default base=/var/db
> > *default release=cvs delete use-rel-suffix compress
> > 
> > src-all
> > 
> > This will update to freeBSD-CURRENT
> > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.html#CURRENT
> 
> Exactly.
> 
> > How would I modify this supfile to update to 5.4-RELEASE?
> 
> By using a proper tag= value.  For the 5.4-RELEASE version of the
> sources, this would be:
> 
> tag=RELENG_5_4_0_RELEASE
> 
> The exact process that leads to the creation of a release branch and the
> tag that marks the sources of the official release build is described in
> detail at:
> 
> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/releng/release-proc.html

You may like to use tag=RELENG_5_4 instead and get some patches to.
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Re: How to clear an improperly unreferenced file in multi-user mode?

2005-11-05 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 02:00:25PM +0100, Olaf Greve wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> When doing some maintenance on my fall-back server I ran into something 
> weird. When running df it turned out /var was for 90% full. I then 
> manually deleted some files (as root over SSH), amongst which the 
> 'maillog' logfiles in /var/log, I also killed sendmail (as it was 
> generating the big log files, and at present I don't need to run it on 
> that machine), and just to be sure I created a new 'maillog file of 0 
> length.

You could use /etc/newsyslog.conf to solve the big log file problem.

> So far so good, but after removing the maillog files and performing 
> another df call, the available size had not quite dropped as much as 
> expected and as should. DU reports the proper amount of disk usage, so I 
> performed an fsck.
> 
> On /var it shows:
> 
> 239511 files, 2365547 used, 4942027 free (37155 frags, 613109 blocks, 
> 0.5% fragmentation)
> ** /dev/da0s1d (NO WRITE)
> ** Last Mounted on /var
> ** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes
> ** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames
> ** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity
> ** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts
> UNREF FILE I=48134  OWNER=root MODE=100640
> SIZE=322792549 MTIME=Nov  3 13:46 2005
> CLEAR? no
> 
> 
> Now, of course one way to get rid of that big sucker is to boot the 
> machine in single user mode and run fsck again, however, the box is 
> nowhere near me and I cannot go down to the city where the machine is 
> anytime soon (besides: this is far from an urgent issue). So, I was 
> wondering about a thing: rather than doing a remote reboot and hope that 
> fsck will clear it up in the booting process (if it does that at all, 
> that is), I was wondering if there's a way to fix this when running in 
> multi user mode.
> 
> Does anyone know how (if possible) to achieve this, or do I have to 
> reboot the machine in single user mode after all?

I've done it in the past. First kill as much programms that use /var.
Then umount /var and let fsck have a go at it. This may result in some
core dumps. Then reboot.
> 
> PS: Will it perhaps be possible to manually unmount /var, then fsck -y 
> it, and then remount it, or will that cause the machine to lock me out 
> (or perform other undesired behaviour)?

I don't beleave it will lock you out. It may not let you login again do.
It would be a good idea to have fysical access so you can press
cntr-alt-delete

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Re: How-to rebuild /modules...

2005-11-05 Thread Andrew P.
On 11/5/05, Bernt Hansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Without rebuilding world and such things?
> This machine has been up for a long time and nobody realy know's what
> they have done to it. When i looked at / today i've noticed that
> /modules was missing. It worked very nice until a sudden reboot, and now
> inn wont work correctly. so I need help I've tried cd /sys/modules &&
> make make install but that din't help, also tried cd /sys/modules &&
> make all but that render me whit this answer Warning: Object directory
> not changed from original /usr/src/sys/modules/ipfw
>
> Help, Please
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Just "make kernel", it'll build and install kernel and
modules. Kernel will take only a fraction of the time.
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Re: ULE or 4BSD

2005-11-05 Thread Andrew P.
On 11/5/05, Albert Shih <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi anybody
>
> All is in the subject...on FreeBSD 6.0 i've see the default generic kernel
> is compiled with SCHED_4BSD and SCHED_ULE is in comment.
>
> Can'I use SCHED_ULE on 6.0 ? Is he stable now ?
>
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Not yet, no, sorry. It's pretty stable now that 6.0 is
out, but you'll have to conduct extensive testing
(yourself) before you put it in production, where it
might give you a noticable performance boost.
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Re: Problems on start of my system

2005-11-05 Thread Alex de Kruijff
On Sat, Nov 05, 2005 at 02:02:49AM -0200, alicornio wrote:
> I have a problem on start of my system, appear this mesage: 
> 
> Staring file system checks: 
> /dev/ad0s1a: 1304 files, 18242 used, 300053 free (1149 frags, 37363 blocks, 
> 0.4% fragmentation) 
> /dev/ad0s1g: DEFER FOR BACKGROUND CHECKING 
> /dev/ad0s1f: DEFER FOR BACKGROUND CHECKING 
> /dev/ad0s1d: DEFER FOR BACKGROUND CHECKING 
> /dev/ad0s1e: FILE SYSTEM CLEAN; SKIPPING CHECKS 
> /dev/ad0s1e: clean, 57112 free (40 frags, 7134 bloks, 0,1% fragmentation) 
> WARNING: /home was not properly dismounted 
> ad0: FAILURE - READ-DMA status=51 ERROR=40 
> LBA=2398527 
> mount: /dev/ad0s1: input/output error 
> WARNING: /usr was not properly dismounted 
> WARNING: /var was not properly dismounted 
> mounting /etc/fstab filesystems failed, start up aborted 
> ad0: FAILURE - READ-DMA status=51 ERROR=40 
> LBA=2191743 
> boot interruped 
> enter full pathname of shell or return for /bin/sh: 
> 
> I type something and the system reboot after this mesages: 
> 
> panic: vrele: negative refe cnt 
> cannot dump: no dump device defined 
> 
> Someone can help me whith this problem? what?s happenig? how i can solve 
> this? 

It seems your system is not able to mount certain filesystems as stated
in fstabs. You could try /sbin/fsck -y (say yes to everything) afther
you enter the shell. Also check /etc/fstabs to see if it contains
errors.

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RE: New Logo

2005-11-05 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt


>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Greg Barniskis
>Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2005 3:56 PM
>To: Jim Pazarena
>Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: Re: New Logo
>
>
>
>If the process gets reversed based on the fervent outcry of a small 
>number of people who think they have somehow been disenfranchised, 
>that would be just as silly as the oft-repeated "this whole thing 
>was done to please offended right-wingers" argument.
>

No, it just puts us back to square one again, whereupon we can
do it right by having a vote on whether or not it needs to be
changed.  If the userbase voted for creating a logo and replacing
Beastie with it, nobody would be complaining.

>There was a process (seems to me it was a fair process), it's over, 
>and some factions lost, particularly the "don't change anything" 
>faction. 

A disingenuous argument if there was one - the "don't change anything"
faction lost as soon as the process came into being, because the
existence of the process predicated a change.

This is like when the US president claims the US needs to keep putting
fresh troops into Iraq because the deaths of the previous soldiers
would be in vain if it pulled out and the country collapsed.

Nowhere in that argument is the point that maybe the US should
not have ever gone in to begin with.  Implied in that argument is
"we fucked up and we are going to fix it by continuing to fuck up"
exactly as you are arguing here.

The problem was there was no fair process that established that
a process for change was ever needed to begin with.  None of the
"don't change anything" faction has issue with how the contest
itself operated, the issue is the decision to have a contest to
begin with.

>(b) did not participate in the process except to heartily denounce 
>the very existence of the process and its goal

Well of course - since what established the need for the
existence of the process to begin with?  A bunch of ass-umptions
of a small number of people.

>(c) even now outright refuse to go and be part of the advocacy@ 
>community where this discussion is germane to that list charter

You mean, like your doing here?

>
>Biggest. Bike. Shed. Ever.
>

If you don't care, why are you joining the discussion?

It is facinating how many people feel the need to jump in to
this thread, loudly proclaiming it's completely unimportant and
there is a big problem because it's not going away.  When will
those folks understand that their jumping in is keeping the
thread going?

If you -really- feel it's a bikeshed discussion, then your
silence speaks louder than words.  Methinks the maiden doth
protest too much.

Ted
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RE: New Logo

2005-11-05 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt

Yes, the decision can be reversed.

Simply do not use the new logo on anything you produce for
FreeBSD, such as CDROM copies for customer server installs,
web pages you may create that discuss FreeBSD, graphic images
you might use as backgrounds, computer presentations, etc.

Do not purchase or spend money on any commercial FreeBSD product
that uses the new logo, such as CDROM pressings, books, etc. and
make sure to let the producers of the items know why.  Be aware
that book authors have considerable say in the artwork that goes
on book covers, even if they do not create it, and a book publisher
will do anything to avoid pissing people off - with the controversy
over Beastie vs. the new logo, any book publisher and/or author
would most likely avoid using both images on their book covers
at this point.  (Note the covers of many of the current FreeBSD
books)

Do not link to webpages that use the new logo.

Hold the core team to their promise that the new logo will
not supplant Beastie, which means that Beastie imagery
will still be present on the FreeBSD website on some pages.

If that is done the new logo will remain an artifact of the
index page on the FreeBSD website.

Such "voting with the feet" has been used by the user base in
the past with FreeBSD very successfully.  That is why, for
example, there is no longer a Seagate ST01 scsi adapter card
driver in FreeBSD, or a floppy controller tape drive driver.
The userbase didn't want them.  By contrast when the core team
tried killing the Adaptec 1520/1510 driver the userbase howled
and core eventually put forth the effort to rewrite it for
cam. (and still is present to this day)

Ted

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>To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
>Subject: New Logo
>
>
>after reading the original competition posting, it seems that it was
>orchestrated by the "core" @ freebsd
>
>it would be interesting to learn the total # of "core" members, and how
>the vote went, yay and nay, and whether, it at all, the "core" is
>hearing the message which seems to be emanating from the "non-core"..
>
>IOW, can the decision be reversed? is it being considered? if not, it's
>all moot.
>
>regards,
>Jim
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Re: Fast diff command for large files?

2005-11-05 Thread Jan Grant
On Fri, 4 Nov 2005, Kirk Strauser wrote:

> 
> I wonder if rsync could be modified to output its patches rather than 
> silently applying them to a target file.  It seems to be pretty good at 
> comparing large files quickly...
> 

More thinking out loud: since these are database dumps, they're 
order-independent. So, sort the files into a predictable lexical order, 
then a diff is a linear operation over tonight's file versus last 
night's.


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Export snapshot

2005-11-05 Thread Albert Shih
Hi anyone,

I search some technic to exports a snapshot.

Let me explain little more. I've big nfs server (~1 To) to export by nfs to
my clients. Until now I've a second server too, on this server I run
something like rsnapshots (snapshot with rsync). 
But now the time rsnapshots using for making every snapshot is very big.
For this reason I want to use ffs_snapshot, but I don't know how I can make
this snapshot accessible for my user (without sysadmin intervention).

Off course I can make a script to do (mdconfig, mount, export nfs etc...)
but when I need to turn the snapshot, if any client have mount the snapshot
I can umount and make mdconfig -d, event I can what's my client situation,
maybe I hang-up with "NFS not responding" 

Anyone have a idea ?

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ULE or 4BSD

2005-11-05 Thread Albert Shih
Hi anybody

All is in the subject...on FreeBSD 6.0 i've see the default generic kernel
is compiled with SCHED_4BSD and SCHED_ULE is in comment.

Can'I use SCHED_ULE on 6.0 ? Is he stable now ?

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