Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

[Bruce Cran]

Lisandro Grullon wrote:

Hi Gerard,
Thank you for your reply. I really do not understand were the problem is, I am tending to think it is a problem at the routing level now. I ask two of my co-workers to go home and test the website in their machines using vista, they did, and were able to access it in IE 7.x and Firefox; however, I still puzzle, why are the machines using windows XP downward able to load the site in IE or Firefox. I know that you or someone else mention something regarding IPV6 TCP window encapsulation at the routing level, yet I am testing vista at work (over 3000 nodes), this is one of the test I am performing before deploying it. It seems weir that www.freebsd.org is the only website experiencing the problem so far. 

BTW, the FreeBSD servers in out LAN also cannot access www.freebsd.org;as a temporary solution, I have been able to access the handbook via www.uk.freebsd.org .  This is a really weird issue that is bothering me and I won't stop until it is solve, sooner or later our client side will be migrated to Windows Vista hence our users are not  computer literate to migrate to Unix or Linux at this point in time. I still looking for clues if anyone has found a solution to this, meanwhile I appreciate your effort Gerard and that of many others that have contribute to resolve this matter. 


Lisandro Grullon


To check if it's an problem with IPv6, could you try accessing 
http://www.ipv6.org or http://www.kame.net ?   You could try running 
traceroute to check for routing problems to see where the problem is.


--
Bruce Cran








While his reply may not have been the most cordial that I have seen, it was
nevertheless quite on point. I have used Vista and IE7 to connect to FBSD
without incident. It therefore becomes evident that the problem is germane to
you rather than the whole FBSD group at large.

Did you actually read the link given to you in an earlier post? You might also
try contacting your ISP and see if there is a problem there. You could also
just use another browser that is more tolerant than IE7 appears to be in this
incident.

If you reply again, please lose the 'top posting' format. It makes following
your replies far more trouble than it is worth.


--
Gerard

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Re: Strange perl script

[Joshua Isom]

If a simple 'locate sploger' shows nothing(run `periodic weekly` which 
will update your locate database assuming you're keeping things 
relatively stock), then in all likelihood you've got an intruder.  If 
some of the other tips posted give no help, and you've got time on your 
hands, try `grep -l sploger /` and you'll find all files with sploger 
in it.  If you've been broken into and they're being really tricky, it 
won't work but odds are they aren't that bright if the process is still 
in ps's output.


On Oct 17, 2007, at 3:05 PM, Jack Raats wrote:


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HI

Can anyone explain this after ps -ax | grep perl

21893  ??  I  1:02.37 sploger (perl5.8.8)
29536  ??  R184:14.94 sploger (perl5.8.8)
29538  ??  R184:36.44 sploger (perl5.8.8)
30668  ??  R168:56.54 sploger (perl5.8.8)

What is sploger?


Looks sort of like a Perl script running.
That, of course, doesn't say what it is doing.


The stangest thing is that I cann't find sploger on  my system. After a
reboot sploger doesn't appear anymore, which makes it more stranger.

Jack

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Re: linux compatibility

[Paul Schmehl]

--On October 17, 2007 8:56:32 PM -0700 andrew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:



Is there any way to check which (if any) installed applications are
dependent on linux compatibility? Thank you.


Of course.  man (1) pkginfo - pay special attention to -R

E.g pkg_info -aR | grep linux | less

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FreeBSD 6.2 on J7F4 locks up

[Thomas Gielfeldt]

Hi

I've now also experienced lock ups when building world in in single user mode, 
without using the nics. So the problem might not only be the nics. Cany anyone 
confirm this?

ACPI, SATA, AC97 and USB were disabled when the lock up occurred.

/Thomas
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Re: Power Point Files

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

KOffice also includes a presenter.

Erich

Robert Huff wrote:

Rem P Roberti writes:


 Are there any programs in the ports collection which allow you to view
 MS Power Point files?  I occasionally receive these files and it would
 be nice to set up the .mailcap to be able to view them, if that is
 possible.


devel/present ?
graphics/tonicpoint ?
and, of couse, OpenOffice


Robert Huff
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linux compatibility

[andrew]

Is there any way to check which (if any) installed applications are
dependent on linux compatibility? Thank you.
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Re: Virtual email server

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 22:40 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> --On October 18, 2007 9:18:47 AM +0700 Olivier Nicole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
[...snip...]
> > So far I have only run single domain servers.
> >
> Postfix, cyrus courier imap/pop and squirrelmail - use mysql to tie it all 
> together.
> 

+1 ;;

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Re: Virtual email server

[Paul Schmehl]

--On October 18, 2007 9:18:47 AM +0700 Olivier Nicole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:



Hi,

I am asked to build a virtual (couple of thousand of domains) email
server: smtp, imap, pop and web mail.

Sendmail is not the best choice, any sugestion about the various tools
of choice for every components?

So far I have only run single domain servers.

Postfix, cyrus courier imap/pop and squirrelmail - use mysql to tie it all 
together.



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Re: Power Point Files

[Rem P Roberti]

On 2007.10.18 09:45:54 +, Olivier Nicole wrote:
> >graphics/tonicpoint ?
>  
> 
> Seems that tonic is not available anymore, Google bought them out.
> 
> Olivier

I caught that.  We'll give present a try.

Rem
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Re: Power Point Files

[Olivier Nicole]

>graphics/tonicpoint ?
 

Seems that tonic is not available anymore, Google bought them out.

Olivier
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Re: Power Point Files

[Rem P Roberti]

On 2007.10.17 22:26:11 +, Robert Huff wrote:
> 
> Rem P Roberti writes:
> 
> >  Are there any programs in the ports collection which allow you to view
> >  MS Power Point files?  I occasionally receive these files and it would
> >  be nice to set up the .mailcap to be able to view them, if that is
> >  possible.
> 
>   devel/present ?
>   graphics/tonicpoint ?
>   and, of couse, OpenOffice
> 
> 
>   Robert Huff


Thank you!

Rem
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Power Point Files

[Robert Huff]

Rem P Roberti writes:

>  Are there any programs in the ports collection which allow you to view
>  MS Power Point files?  I occasionally receive these files and it would
>  be nice to set up the .mailcap to be able to view them, if that is
>  possible.

devel/present ?
graphics/tonicpoint ?
and, of couse, OpenOffice


Robert Huff
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Virtual email server

[Olivier Nicole]

Hi,

I am asked to build a virtual (couple of thousand of domains) email
server: smtp, imap, pop and web mail.

Sendmail is not the best choice, any sugestion about the various tools
of choice for every components?

So far I have only run single domain servers.

TIA,

Olivier
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Power Point Files

[Rem P Roberti]

Are there any programs in the ports collection which allow you to view
MS Power Point files?  I occasionally receive these files and it would
be nice to set up the .mailcap to be able to view them, if that is
possible.

Rem
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Re: apache mod_ssl chroot problem

[Beastie]

On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 13:38 +0100, Daniel Bye wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 08:46:01PM +0700, Muhammad Reza wrote:
> > Dear List.
> > 
> > I have problem running apache in chroot mode with ssl enable.
> > Apache in chroot mode running fine without ssl enable, but when i try to
> > start with mod_ssl enable, error occured with this message.
> > 
> > beastie#chroot /chroot/httpd /usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd
> > Apache/2.2.6 mod_ssl/2.2.6 (Pass Phrase Dialog)
> > Some of your private key files are encrypted for security reasons.
> > In order to read them you have to provide the pass phrases.
> > 
> > Server beastie.mra.co.id:443 (RSA)
> > Enter pass phrase:Apache:mod_ssl:Error: Private key not found.
> > **Stopped
> > 
> > and with error log
> > 
> > [Wed Oct 17 13:37:25 2007] [error] Init: Private key not found
> > [Wed Oct 17 13:37:25 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218710120
> > error:0D094068:asn1 encoding routines:d2i_ASN1_SET:bad tag
> > [Wed Oct 17 13:37:25 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218529960
> > error:0D0680A8:asn1 encoding routines:ASN1_CHECK_TLEN:wrong tag
> > [Wed Oct 17 13:37:25 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218595386
> > error:0D07803A:asn1 encoding routines:ASN1_ITEM_EX_D2I:nested asn1 error
> > [Wed Oct 17 13:37:25 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218734605
> > error:0D09A00D:asn1 encoding routines:d2i_PrivateKey:ASN1 lib
> > [Wed Oct 17 13:38:32 2007] [error] Init: Private key not found
> > [Wed Oct 17 13:38:32 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218710120
> > error:0D094068:asn1 encoding routines:d2i_ASN1_SET:bad tag
> > [Wed Oct 17 13:38:32 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218529960
> > error:0D0680A8:asn1 encoding routines:ASN1_CHECK_TLEN:wrong tag
> > [Wed Oct 17 13:38:32 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218595386b
> > error:0D07803A:asn1 encoding routines:ASN1_ITEM_EX_D2I:nested asn1 error
> > [Wed Oct 17 13:38:32 2007] [error] SSL Library Error: 218734605
> > error:0D09A00D:asn1 encoding routines:d2i_PrivateKey:ASN1 lib
> > 
> > If i escape from chrooted enviroment, apache with mod_ssl work fine 
> > 
> > beastie# /usr/local/apache2/bin/httpd
> > Apache/2.2.6 mod_ssl/2.2.6 (Pass Phrase Dialog)
> > Some of your private key files are encrypted for security reasons.
> > In order to read them you have to provide the pass phrases.
> > 
> > Server www.example.com:443 (RSA)
> > Enter pass phrase:
> > 
> > OK: Pass Phrase Dialog successful.
> > 
> > Is there something missing here, please enlight me.
> 
> The first thing that comes to mind - are your keys inside the chroot area
> you want to run apache in?
> 
the key is in /chroot/httpd/usr/local/apache2/conf/  with 400 mode owner
by root
and the path in htppd-ssl.conf is 
SSLCertificateKeyFile "/usr/local/apache2/conf/server.key"
Is there anyway to test that my key is visible by chroot program ??

regards
Reza


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Re: [Off Topic] Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

[Aryeh M. Friedman]

David Benfell wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:23:48 +0100, Benjamin A'Lee wrote:
>   
>> Unfortunately, Firefox isn't always an option, especially on e.g.
>> corporate networks.
>>
>> 
> Actually, I believe it is.  I run around with a memory stick
> (well, actually, two of them, but only because I never really
> got my act together) loaded with software to make Windows at
> least partly useful.  Firefox is one of the programs I typically
> have loaded on this stick.  This avoids installing Firefox on
> every Windows system I encounter.
>   

You can even go a step farther and put FreeBSD on a stick (though to
have anything usable you will need 8 to 10 gb [assuming
gnome/firefox/thunderbird/openoffice])

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RE: batch conversion of TeX

[Murray Taylor]

 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Giorgos Keramidas
> Sent: Saturday, 13 October 2007 12:46 AM
> To: Aryeh M. Friedman
> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: batch conversion of TeX
> 
> On 2007-10-12 09:44, "Aryeh M. Friedman" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Those who have followed my openoffice to TeX conversion 
> know I am brand
> > new to TeX and want to know how to do the following conversions
> > (hopefully via some non-interactive process [eg. Make files]):
> >
> > TeX-->plain text
> > TeX-->HTML
> > TeX-->PDF
> > TeX-->PS
> 
> I usually start by writing something like this in a Makefile:
> 
> DOC = foo
> SRC = $(DOC).tex
> PDF = $(DOC).pdf
> 
> PDFLATEX = pdflatex
> 
> all: $(PDF)
> 
> $(PDF): $(SRC)
> $(PDFLATEX) $(SRC)
> $(PDFLATEX) $(SRC)
> 
> The two runs of $(PDFLATEX) are necessary to get cross-references
> correct in documents with internal cross-references.
> 
> There are other tools, like texindex(1) which you may want to 
> throw into
> the mix.  The TeX toolchain is described in detail in the 
> documentation
> which is available online at CTAN (the Comprehensive TeX Archive
> Network).  It may be interesting for you to at least skim through the
> docs available at http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/
> 
> All the books available at the `info' directory are useful, 
> and many of
> them are excellent examples of what you can do by typesetting 
> with TeX.
> 
> Some of my favorites are:
> 
>   * ``Components of TeX''
> http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/components-of-TeX/
> 
>   * ``Essential information for writing LaTeX documents''
> http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/latex-essential/
> 
>   * ``Making TeX Work''
> http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/makingtexwork/
> 

the latex-mk port handles a lot of these functions
/usr/ports/misc/latex-mk

I uses it for all my docs

make  # generates a DVI file and calls a viewer
make ps
make pdf
make html # settable options re single page - multi page
make draft-pdf# overprints DRAFT - use this if you are not using the

  #  \usepackage{draftcopy} which gives you more
flexibility
make print# spools off to lp
make clean

And there are other available targets for the Make process.

It handles all the multiple passes etc over the LaTeX file(s)
and has a bunch of other capabilities to manage BibTeX stuff, image
management
Tgif, .jpg, .png . etc etc


One of my Makefiles

# base document name
NAME=  databasedesign

# bib file
BIBTEXSRCS=suite.bib

# Tgif drawings are here
TGIFSRCS=  ./tgif

# and the magic is all in here
.include "/usr/local/share/latex-mk/latex.mk"

# End Makefile

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Re: apache mod_ssl chroot problem

[Muhammad Reza]

On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 08:29 -0600, James wrote:
> 
> > Server beastie.mra.co.id:443 (RSA)
> > Enter pass phrase:Apache:mod_ssl:Error: Private key not found.
> > **Stopped
> 
> 
> Isn't the private key the one on the local machine? If so, is the
> private key visible with the chroot environment?
> ___

the key is in /chroot/httpd/usr/local/apache2/conf/  with 400 mode owner
by root
and the path in htppd-ssl.conf is 
SSLCertificateKeyFile "/usr/local/apache2/conf/server.key"
Is there anyway to test that my key is visible by chroot program ??

regards
Reza

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RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

[Lisandro Grullon]

Hi Gerard,
Thank you for your reply. I really do not understand were the problem is, I am 
tending to think it is a problem at the routing level now. I ask two of my 
co-workers to go home and test the website in their machines using vista, they 
did, and were able to access it in IE 7.x and Firefox; however, I still puzzle, 
why are the machines using windows XP downward able to load the site in IE or 
Firefox. I know that you or someone else mention something regarding IPV6 TCP 
window encapsulation at the routing level, yet I am testing vista at work (over 
3000 nodes), this is one of the test I am performing before deploying it. It 
seems weir that www.freebsd.org is the only website experiencing the problem so 
far. 

BTW, the FreeBSD servers in out LAN also cannot access www.freebsd.org;as a 
temporary solution, I have been able to access the handbook via 
www.uk.freebsd.org .  This is a really weird issue that is bothering me and I 
won't stop until it is solve, sooner or later our client side will be migrated 
to Windows Vista hence our users are not  computer literate to migrate to Unix 
or Linux at this point in time. I still looking for clues if anyone has found a 
solution to this, meanwhile I appreciate your effort Gerard and that of many 
others that have contribute to resolve this matter. 

Lisandro Grullon




> 
> While his reply may not have been the most cordial that I have seen, it was
> nevertheless quite on point. I have used Vista and IE7 to connect to FBSD
> without incident. It therefore becomes evident that the problem is germane to
> you rather than the whole FBSD group at large.
> 
> Did you actually read the link given to you in an earlier post? You might also
> try contacting your ISP and see if there is a problem there. You could also
> just use another browser that is more tolerant than IE7 appears to be in this
> incident.
> 
> If you reply again, please lose the 'top posting' format. It makes following
> your replies far more trouble than it is worth.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Gerard
> 
> A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
> 
> TOPIC: Posting Etiquette
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Re: sendmail problems

[Derek Ragona]

At 06:15 PM 10/17/2007, Duane Winner wrote:

Derek Ragona wrote:
> At 04:07 PM 10/17/2007, Duane Winner wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I need help to resolve a problem with my sendmail server.
>>
>> In my /var/log/maillog, I've been seeing:
>>
>> sm-mta[1753]: l9H4EoAn001753: outbound-mail-10.bluehost.com
>> [69.89.17.210] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to
>> IPv4
>>
>> I use this server to manage mailman lists, so I knew something was wrong
>> when I started notice that my own list posts (using a bluehost.com
>> account) were not showing up.
>> So I looked in the logs and noticed the above.
>>
>> At first I thought it might be bluehost.com acting up again, but then
>> tried to send mail from a gmail.com account. Same thing:
>>
>> sm-mta[1785]: l9H4OdFq001785: py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]
>> did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to IPv4
>>
>>
>> It accepts fine from my company's external email server (different
>> domain, different network), and also accepts from my att.net email
>> account, and many others who post to my lists.
>>
>> I'm not sure where to even begin looking. Any help appreciated!
>>
>> -DW
>
> Are you running only IPv4?  or are you running IPv6?  Or both?

IPv4 only. When I restart sendmail, I get the following output, which if
I'm interpreting correctly, means that sendmail isn't going to try to
use IPv6 when it's running:

Oct 17 19:13:23 mymailserver sm-mta[33703]: starting daemon (8.13.6):
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00
Oct 17 19:13:23 mymailserver sm-mta[33703]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root):
opendaemonsocket: daemon IPv6: can't create server SMTP socket: Protocol
not supported
Oct 17 19:13:23 mymailserver sm-mta[33703]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root):
opendaemonsocket: daemon IPv6: optional socket disabled
Oct 17 19:13:23 mymailserver sm-msp-queue[33707]: starting daemon
(8.13.6): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00


It looks like you are trying to run sendmail on IPv6.  You can turn on or 
off support for IPv6 in the DaemonPortOptions in your *.cf files in 
/etc/mail.  I would check those and also check your IP stack configuration 
doing:

ifconfig -a

-Derek

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[Off Topic] Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

[David Benfell]

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 23:23:48 +0100, Benjamin A'Lee wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately, Firefox isn't always an option, especially on e.g.
> corporate networks.
> 
Actually, I believe it is.  I run around with a memory stick
(well, actually, two of them, but only because I never really
got my act together) loaded with software to make Windows at
least partly useful.  Firefox is one of the programs I typically
have loaded on this stick.  This avoids installing Firefox on
every Windows system I encounter.

But I believe Firefox is also one of the few pieces of software
that can be installed on a Windows system without administrator
privileges; you just install it in the user account space, and
the Windows system will remember it with the rest of the "user
account settings" and not trouble other users of that system
with it.

But I'll also have to acknowledge we're getting well off topic
for this list here.  So I'll shut up now.

-- 
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Re: Strange perl script

[Steve Bertrand]

>> Looks sort of like a Perl script running.
>> That, of course, doesn't say what it is doing.
> 
> The stangest thing is that I cann't find sploger on  my system. After a
> reboot sploger doesn't appear anymore, which makes it more stranger.

Post output of:

# last
# cat /root/.history
# ls -la /root
# ls -la /tmp
# ls -la /var/tmp
# ps aux

Ensure you leave the command you perform with the associated output, and
leave a few newlines between each command for ease of reading.

Steve
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6-Stable spams console trying to read a sensor that doesn't exist

[matt donovan]

as soon as I boot up my 6-Stable kernel I get bunch of errors stating TZ
temperture is absurb -256 since the machine in question doesn't have sensors
in it do I disable acpi or another feature in the kernel to get rid of this
spam since it sort of locks my machine up after a while.
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Re: sendmail problems

[Duane Winner]

Derek Ragona wrote:
> At 04:07 PM 10/17/2007, Duane Winner wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I need help to resolve a problem with my sendmail server.
>>
>> In my /var/log/maillog, I've been seeing:
>>
>> sm-mta[1753]: l9H4EoAn001753: outbound-mail-10.bluehost.com
>> [69.89.17.210] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to
>> IPv4
>>
>> I use this server to manage mailman lists, so I knew something was wrong
>> when I started notice that my own list posts (using a bluehost.com
>> account) were not showing up.
>> So I looked in the logs and noticed the above.
>>
>> At first I thought it might be bluehost.com acting up again, but then
>> tried to send mail from a gmail.com account. Same thing:
>>
>> sm-mta[1785]: l9H4OdFq001785: py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]
>> did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to IPv4
>>
>>
>> It accepts fine from my company's external email server (different
>> domain, different network), and also accepts from my att.net email
>> account, and many others who post to my lists.
>>
>> I'm not sure where to even begin looking. Any help appreciated!
>>
>> -DW
>
> Are you running only IPv4?  or are you running IPv6?  Or both?

IPv4 only. When I restart sendmail, I get the following output, which if
I'm interpreting correctly, means that sendmail isn't going to try to
use IPv6 when it's running:

Oct 17 19:13:23 mymailserver sm-mta[33703]: starting daemon (8.13.6):
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00
Oct 17 19:13:23 mymailserver sm-mta[33703]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root):
opendaemonsocket: daemon IPv6: can't create server SMTP socket: Protocol
not supported
Oct 17 19:13:23 mymailserver sm-mta[33703]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root):
opendaemonsocket: daemon IPv6: optional socket disabled
Oct 17 19:13:23 mymailserver sm-msp-queue[33707]: starting daemon
(8.13.6): [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00




>
> -Derek
>

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Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

[Gerard]

On October 17, 2007 at 04:52PM Lisandro Grullon wrote:


> Dear Rob,
> Do us a favor, do not reply to peoples' questions with your low level 
> intelligent response. Only reply if you will add value to the list. 
> 
> Lisandro Grullon
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:46:00 -0400
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > CC: 
> > Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
> > 
> > Lisandro Grullon wrote:
> > > Hi Michael,
> > > Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you told me I still 
> > > unable to load www.freebsd.org, why am I able to load www.uk.freebsd.org 
> > > and not the US domain, is there something wrong with the US website? I 
> > > can't seem to find logic here.
> > 
> > Let's see.. the problem is your stupid operating system and it's browser.
> > 
> > Why the hell do you continue to whine to us about it?
> > 
> > Take it up with billy gates and his minions.
> > 
> >-Rob

While his reply may not have been the most cordial that I have seen, it was
nevertheless quite on point. I have used Vista and IE7 to connect to FBSD
without incident. It therefore becomes evident that the problem is germane to
you rather than the whole FBSD group at large.

Did you actually read the link given to you in an earlier post? You might also
try contacting your ISP and see if there is a problem there. You could also
just use another browser that is more tolerant than IE7 appears to be in this
incident.

If you reply again, please lose the 'top posting' format. It makes following
your replies far more trouble than it is worth.


-- 
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A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?

TOPIC: Posting Etiquette
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Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

[Benjamin A'Lee]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 06:22:05AM +0900, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 12:21 -0400, Lisandro Grullon wrote:
> > Hi Michael,
> > Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you 
> > told me I still unable to load www.freebsd.org, why am I 
> > able to load www.uk.freebsd.org and not the US domain, is 
> > there something wrong with the US website? I can't seem to 
> > find logic here.
> [...snip...]
> 
> Try Firefox ;;

Unfortunately, Firefox isn't always an option, especially on e.g.
corporate networks.

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RE: Install FreeBSD 6.2 and Windows XP prof in the same computer

[David Christensen]

williamkow wrote off-list:

> May I know what is "mobile docks" ? how does it look, where can I
> find more information on it ?

Be sure to hit "Reply to All", as "Reply" will reply to the poster, not the 
list.

http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-to-harmful.html


Regarding mobile docks, I use these:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B9XSXE/103-6290448-9667056

 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/BE2Y8P/ref=sr_11_1/103-1902779-1454204?%5Fen
coding=UTF8


HTH,

David

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Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

[Chris]

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:52:49 -0400
Lisandro Grullon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

... formatted to show proper flow (removed top posting)


> > Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:46:00 -0400
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > CC: 
> > Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
> > 
> > Lisandro Grullon wrote:
> > > Hi Michael,
> > > Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you told me
> > > I still unable to load www.freebsd.org, why am I able to load
> > > www.uk.freebsd.org and not the US domain, is there something
> > > wrong with the US website? I can't seem to find logic here.
> > 
> > Let's see.. the problem is your stupid operating system and it's
> > browser.
> > 
> > Why the hell do you continue to whine to us about it?
> > 
> > Take it up with billy gates and his minions.
> > 
> >-Rob
> > 
> Dear Rob,
> Do us a favor, do not reply to peoples' questions with your low level
> intelligent response. Only reply if you will add value to the list. 
> 
> Lisandro Grullon
> 
> 

Lisandro - 

What Rob really meant to say is simply this - while the Op has
an issue with IE7 and the FreeBSD website, the Op's issues are beyond
the scope of this list.

The Op's IE7 issues don't belong here, within a FreeBSD list.
Perhaps what Rob also meant was, that perhaps the Op should seen help
on Microsoft driven lists and more to the point, Internet Explorer.

What you "could" have done (as mentioned by your words of
adding value-added replies) was to reinforce to the Op that indeed the
FreeBSD site (US) was and is indeed up and working.

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Re: Strange perl script

[Paul Schmehl]

--On Wednesday, October 17, 2007 23:51:39 +0200 Peo Nilsson 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I scanned my FreeBSD 6.2-Release (ports up to date) with
Avira Antivir personal ed, some days ago. The scanner returned
this:

...
checking drive/path (cwd): /
/usr/ports/security/p5-openxpki-client-html-mason/pkg-plist
 Date: 11.10.2007  Time: 16:04:06  Size: 9975
 ALERT:
[HTML/MHT.Gen]
/usr/ports/security/p5-openxpki-client-html-mason/pkg-plist <<< Contains
detection pattern of the HTML script virus HTML/MHT.Gen ...

The information Avira has one can read here:
http://www.avira.com/en/threats/section/details/id_vir/3679/html_mht.gen.
html

I posted a question to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
They proposed that the scanner probably was "to nervous" for using with
Unix. (I can't tell myself)

Don't know if this says anything, but I though I would mention it
when I saw your posts.


I've never heard of a "nervous" anti-virus scanner, but that "detection" is 
clearly a false positive.  The pkg-plist file is a list of the files and 
directories installed by the port, so that they can be removed when you run 
"make deinstall".  Avira probably saw one of the strings in the file as a 
possible match to a known malicious script.


In fact, their description says it's "a generic detection routine designed 
to detect common family characteristics shared in several variants"



If you're so inclined, you could report it to Avira so they can tweak their 
detection accordingly.


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Re: postgresql and initdb

[Erik Cederstrand]

Chad Perrin wrote:

I've installed PostgreSQL here on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, and I'm a
little confused by the presence of the initdb(1) manpage and absence
of an initdb command.

# locate initdb /usr/local/man/man1/initdb.1.gz
/usr/ports/databases/postgresql73-server/files/patch-src-bin-initdb-Makefile
/usr/ports/databases/postgresql74-server/files/patch-src-bin-initdb-Makefile
/usr/ports/www/rt2/files/patch-tools-initdb

Any hints?


Use the rc.d script:

/usr/local/etc/rc.d/postgres initdb

(At least for postgres 8.2)

Erik


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Re: postgresql and initdb

[Josh Paetzel]

Chad Perrin wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 12:11:24PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> > On Oct 17, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
> > >I've installed PostgreSQL here on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, and I'm a  
> > >little
> > >confused by the presence of the initdb(1) manpage and absence of an
> > >initdb command.
> > >
> > >  # locate initdb
> > >  /usr/local/man/man1/initdb.1.gz
> > >  /usr/ports/databases/postgresql73-server/files/patch-src-bin- 
> > >initdb-Makefile
> > >  /usr/ports/databases/postgresql74-server/files/patch-src-bin- 
> > >initdb-Makefile
> > >  /usr/ports/www/rt2/files/patch-tools-initdb
> > >
> > >Any hints?
> > 
> > This:
> > 
> > % head /usr/ports/databases/postgresql74-server/pkg-plist-server
> > bin/initdb
> > bin/initlocation
> > bin/ipcclean
> > bin/pg_controldata
> > bin/pg_ctl
> > bin/pg_id
> > bin/pg_resetxlog
> > bin/postgres
> > bin/postmaster
> > etc/periodic/daily/502.pgsql
> > 
> > ...suggests it will be put in /usr/local/bin/initdb (modulo $ 
> > {LOCALBASE}, if changed)-- try doing a rehash if needed.  :-)
> 
> It's not there, unfortunately.  The above locate indicated as much, and
> `cd /usr/local/bin;ls|grep initdb` returns nothing (as does simply ls and
> searching through it by eye).
> 
> Similarly, that location doesn't contain initlocation, pg_controldata,
> pg_ctl, pg_id, pg_resetxlog, postgres, or postmaster.
> 
> Thus . . . rehashing (which I did before I ran the locate anyway)
> probably won't work.
> 

What port did you install exactly?  Installing one of the
postgresql[XX]-client ports will end you up with all of the manpages,
but none of the commands that you would only need if there was a
server installed, such as initdb, postgres, postmaster and so on and
so forth.

My guess is you need to install the corrosponding
postgresql[XX]-server to match the client you already have installed.

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Re: postgresql and initdb

[Chuck Swiger]

On Oct 17, 2007, at 2:37 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:

...suggests it will be put in /usr/local/bin/initdb (modulo $
{LOCALBASE}, if changed)-- try doing a rehash if needed.  :-)


It's not there, unfortunately.  The above locate indicated as much,  
and
`cd /usr/local/bin;ls|grep initdb` returns nothing (as does simply  
ls and

searching through it by eye).

Similarly, that location doesn't contain initlocation, pg_controldata,
pg_ctl, pg_id, pg_resetxlog, postgres, or postmaster.

Thus . . . rehashing (which I did before I ran the locate anyway)
probably won't work.


Odd-- that sounds like the port wasn't installed properly.  What does:

  pkg_info | grep postgres

...show?  And "pkg_info -Lx postgres"...?

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Re: postgresql and initdb

[Chad Perrin]

On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 12:11:24PM -0700, Chuck Swiger wrote:
> On Oct 17, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
> >I've installed PostgreSQL here on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, and I'm a  
> >little
> >confused by the presence of the initdb(1) manpage and absence of an
> >initdb command.
> >
> >  # locate initdb
> >  /usr/local/man/man1/initdb.1.gz
> >  /usr/ports/databases/postgresql73-server/files/patch-src-bin- 
> >initdb-Makefile
> >  /usr/ports/databases/postgresql74-server/files/patch-src-bin- 
> >initdb-Makefile
> >  /usr/ports/www/rt2/files/patch-tools-initdb
> >
> >Any hints?
> 
> This:
> 
> % head /usr/ports/databases/postgresql74-server/pkg-plist-server
> bin/initdb
> bin/initlocation
> bin/ipcclean
> bin/pg_controldata
> bin/pg_ctl
> bin/pg_id
> bin/pg_resetxlog
> bin/postgres
> bin/postmaster
> etc/periodic/daily/502.pgsql
> 
> ...suggests it will be put in /usr/local/bin/initdb (modulo $ 
> {LOCALBASE}, if changed)-- try doing a rehash if needed.  :-)

It's not there, unfortunately.  The above locate indicated as much, and
`cd /usr/local/bin;ls|grep initdb` returns nothing (as does simply ls and
searching through it by eye).

Similarly, that location doesn't contain initlocation, pg_controldata,
pg_ctl, pg_id, pg_resetxlog, postgres, or postmaster.

Thus . . . rehashing (which I did before I ran the locate anyway)
probably won't work.

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terrible things happen and a false government security blanket beckons."
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Re: Ref : Permission to use parts of FreeBSD documentation on My Website

[Chad Perrin]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 02:04:59AM +0530, allen paul wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I working on compiling Linux kernel and related issues, I was interested in
> using the some documentation on FreeBSD site.
> I needed permission if I could post some of the documentation on my website.

Which FreeBSD documentation?  Different documentation may be licensed
differently.

For specifics, you'll probably get better answers from [EMAIL PROTECTED]
than here.

This may also be helpful, though of course it depends to some extent on
which documentation you're asking about:
  http://www.freebsd.org/copyright/

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Re: sendmail problems

[Derek Ragona]

At 04:07 PM 10/17/2007, Duane Winner wrote:

Hello,

I need help to resolve a problem with my sendmail server.

In my /var/log/maillog, I've been seeing:

sm-mta[1753]: l9H4EoAn001753: outbound-mail-10.bluehost.com
[69.89.17.210] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to IPv4

I use this server to manage mailman lists, so I knew something was wrong
when I started notice that my own list posts (using a bluehost.com
account) were not showing up.
So I looked in the logs and noticed the above.

At first I thought it might be bluehost.com acting up again, but then
tried to send mail from a gmail.com account. Same thing:

sm-mta[1785]: l9H4OdFq001785: py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]
did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to IPv4


It accepts fine from my company's external email server (different
domain, different network), and also accepts from my att.net email
account, and many others who post to my lists.

I'm not sure where to even begin looking. Any help appreciated!

-DW


Are you running only IPv4?  or are you running IPv6?  Or both?

-Derek

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Re: Strange perl script

[Peo Nilsson]

On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 16:07 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote:
> --On Wednesday, October 17, 2007 16:15:27 -0400 Josh Carroll 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> >> The stangest thing is that I cann't find sploger on  my system. After a
> >> reboot sploger doesn't appear anymore, which makes it more stranger.
> >
> > So you have done a:
> >
> > find / -name sploger -type f
> >
> > And nothing comes up? If that's the case, it sounds like it was a perl
> > script that was run, then subsequently removed from the file system.
> > Which sounds rather nefarious to me. You might want to check for
> > rootkits, etc.
> >
> If you google for "sploger+perl", all you get is stuff that looks like 
> hacked websites being run as spam operations.
> 
> Look in /tmp for anything unusual, like directories named ".  " or "..  " 
> or similar.  Look for oddly named files in /tmp, such as dp, xz, etc.
> 
> Look at your website logs carefully.  I suspect a malicious script has been 
> run through some exploit such as php or perl or an apache weakness.
> 
> Is all your software completely patched up to date?
> 

Dear list members.

I scanned my FreeBSD 6.2-Release (ports up to date) with
Avira Antivir personal ed, some days ago. The scanner returned
this:

...
checking drive/path (cwd): /
/usr/ports/security/p5-openxpki-client-html-mason/pkg-plist
 Date: 11.10.2007  Time: 16:04:06  Size: 9975
 ALERT:
[HTML/MHT.Gen] /usr/ports/security/p5-openxpki-client-html-mason/pkg-plist <<< 
Contains detection pattern of the HTML script virus HTML/MHT.Gen
...

The information Avira has one can read here:
http://www.avira.com/en/threats/section/details/id_vir/3679/html_mht.gen.html

I posted a question to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
They proposed that the scanner probably was "to nervous" for using with
Unix. (I can't tell myself)

Don't know if this says anything, but I though I would mention it
when I saw your posts.

-- 
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Re: Ref : Permission to use parts of FreeBSD documentation on My Website

[Aryeh M. Friedman]

allen paul wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thank you, That was the peice of information I was looking for.
> Sure, I will respect proper credits, and skip copyrighted information.
> I might have been mistaken if I mistook BSD documentation as freely
> distributed information under GNU license. But, as long as I can post
> a few Kernel related excerpts, I think I am good. 

In general your going to find BSD a more permissive license then GPL
(for sure less viral).  Contact me privately if you need a good
background references this as well other possible licensing options you
may have.
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sendmail problems

[Duane Winner]

Hello,

I need help to resolve a problem with my sendmail server.

In my /var/log/maillog, I've been seeing:

sm-mta[1753]: l9H4EoAn001753: outbound-mail-10.bluehost.com
[69.89.17.210] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to IPv4

I use this server to manage mailman lists, so I knew something was wrong
when I started notice that my own list posts (using a bluehost.com
account) were not showing up.
So I looked in the logs and noticed the above.

At first I thought it might be bluehost.com acting up again, but then
tried to send mail from a gmail.com account. Same thing:

sm-mta[1785]: l9H4OdFq001785: py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.176]
did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to IPv4


It accepts fine from my company's external email server (different
domain, different network), and also accepts from my att.net email
account, and many others who post to my lists.

I'm not sure where to even begin looking. Any help appreciated!

-DW

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Re: Ref : Permission to use parts of FreeBSD documentation on My Website

[Aryeh M. Friedman]

You would need to look at the specific licenses on each document but in
general since FreeBSD is under a modified BSD license you can do what
ever you want with it as long you give proper credit.
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RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

[Lisandro Grullon]

Dear Rob,
Do us a favor, do not reply to peoples' questions with your low level 
intelligent response. Only reply if you will add value to the list. 

Lisandro Grullon



> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:46:00 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> CC: 
> Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
> 
> Lisandro Grullon wrote:
> > Hi Michael,
> > Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you told me I still 
> > unable to load www.freebsd.org, why am I able to load www.uk.freebsd.org 
> > and not the US domain, is there something wrong with the US website? I 
> > can't seem to find logic here.
> 
> Let's see.. the problem is your stupid operating system and it's browser.
> 
> Why the hell do you continue to whine to us about it?
> 
> Take it up with billy gates and his minions.
> 
>-Rob
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Strange errors compiling evolution-database-server.

[Lisandro Grullon]

Dear all,
it appear that many of the port/packages are linked somewhat to evolution, I 
have been trying to upgrade it using portupgrade without any success, I even 
try uninstall it and installing from the port tree the traditional way using 
make, still not sucess, can any of you tell me what is happening to this output.

===>  Building for evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1
gmake  all-recursive
gmake[1]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1'
Making all in win32
gmake[2]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/win32'
gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/win32'
Making all in libedataserver
gmake[2]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/libedataserver'
gmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/libedataserver'
Making all in servers
gmake[2]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers'
Making all in groupwise
gmake[3]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/groupwise'
gmake  all-am
gmake[4]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/groupwise'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/groupwise'
gmake[3]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/groupwise'
Making all in exchange
gmake[3]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange'
Making all in xntlm
gmake[4]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange/xntlm'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange/xntlm'
Making all in lib
gmake[4]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange/lib'
gmake  all-am
gmake[5]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange/lib'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange/lib'
gmake[4]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange/lib'
Making all in storage
gmake[4]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange/storage'
gmake  all-am
gmake[5]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange/storage'
gmake[5]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[5]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange/storage'
gmake[4]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange/storage'
gmake[4]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange'
gmake[4]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[4]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange'
gmake[3]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers/exchange'
gmake[3]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers'
gmake[2]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/servers'
Making all in camel
gmake[2]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/camel'
Making all in .
gmake[3]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/camel'
gmake[3]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
gmake[3]: Leaving directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/camel'
Making all in providers
gmake[3]: Entering directory 
`/usr/ports/databases/evolution-data-server/work/evolution-data-server-1.10.3.1/camel/providers'
Making all in pop3
gmake[4]: Entering d

RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 12:21 -0400, Lisandro Grullon wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you 
> told me I still unable to load www.freebsd.org, why am I 
> able to load www.uk.freebsd.org and not the US domain, is 
> there something wrong with the US website? I can't seem to 
> find logic here.
[...snip...]

Try Firefox ;;

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Re: Why FreeBSD procfs is so different from the Linux one?

[James]

On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 15:29 -0500, Josh Paetzel wrote:

> Jonathan Chen wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 02:24:49AM -0700, Yuri wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > When I look at /proc/PID/ in FreeBSD I see the files:
> > > cmdline ctl dbregs  etype   filefpregs  map mem note
> > > notepg 
> > > regsrlimit  status
> > > and in Linux:
> > > cmdline  cpu  cwd  environ  exe  fd  maps  mem  mounts  root  stat  statm 
> > >  status
> > > 
> > > Why there's such a difference in procfs interface to the process 
> > > information?
> > > 
> > > In addition Linux has /proc/self/ link which is named curproc in FreeBSD.
> > > 
> > > Isn't it better to have the same interface across the systems?
> > 
> > Maybe. Why don't you get the Linux guys to change theirs? FreeBSD has
> > been around longer.
> 
> Well, technically no.  BSD predates linux, but linux predates FreeBSD
> by a few years.  In general though, linux is a reimplimentation and
> they've had a habit of changing things in the process, but for any
> given interface it's not generally accurate to say linux is the
> reimplimentationsometimes they are, sometimes they aren't.
> 



procfs was an innovation of plan9, so I suppose the thing to do would be
to refer to *their* procfs.

However, either way. I have 1 linux box, something like 15 FreeBSD
boxen, and I have to say that on procfs, linux generally does a job that
I prefer to see. On FreeBSD, it feels more tacked on, while on linux it
feels like there's a lot of rich information there.

James
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Re: Strange perl script

[Paul Schmehl]

--On Wednesday, October 17, 2007 16:15:27 -0400 Josh Carroll 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



The stangest thing is that I cann't find sploger on  my system. After a
reboot sploger doesn't appear anymore, which makes it more stranger.


So you have done a:

find / -name sploger -type f

And nothing comes up? If that's the case, it sounds like it was a perl
script that was run, then subsequently removed from the file system.
Which sounds rather nefarious to me. You might want to check for
rootkits, etc.

If you google for "sploger+perl", all you get is stuff that looks like 
hacked websites being run as spam operations.


Look in /tmp for anything unusual, like directories named ".  " or "..  " 
or similar.  Look for oddly named files in /tmp, such as dp, xz, etc.


Look at your website logs carefully.  I suspect a malicious script has been 
run through some exploit such as php or perl or an apache weakness.


Is all your software completely patched up to date?

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Ref : Permission to use parts of FreeBSD documentation on My Website

[allen paul]

Hi,

I working on compiling Linux kernel and related issues, I was interested in
using the some documentation on FreeBSD site.
I needed permission if I could post some of the documentation on my website.


Regards,

Allen Paul
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Re: syslog marking sendmail output as "kernel:"

[Tuc at T-B-O-H.NET]

> 
> On Oct 16, 2007, at 6:01 PM, Matt Emmerton wrote:
> > There must be somewhere in the kernel where we're writing to the  
> > syslog with an empty error string.  The syslog routines expect a  
> > newline-terminated character string, so the lack of a newline  
> > causes the next entry to be on the same line as the (non-existant)  
> > kernel message.
> 
> Actually, syslog should be just fine without getting a trailing  
> newline; from the manpage:
> 
> "The message is identical to a printf(3) format string, except  
> that `%m'
>   is replaced by the current error message.  (As denoted by the  
> global
>   variable errno; see strerror(3).)  A trailing newline is added  
> if none is
>   present."
> 
Hi Chuck,

I'm still not convinced thats the issue. I did a "-d" on syslog
and came up with. With a syslog.conf of :

*.err;kern.debug;auth.notice;mail.crit  /dev/console
*.emerg *
*.debug /var/log/spool


the syslog is seeing :

logmsg: pri 22, flags 0, from valhalla, msg Oct 16 21:29:00 sm-mta[31804]: 
l9H1Srwd031804: SYSERR(root): collect: I/O error on connection from 
[61.177.142.218], from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>^M
Logging to CONSOLE /dev/console^M
Logging to FILE /var/log/spool^M
logmsg: pri 166, flags 17, from valhalla, msg Oct 16 21:29:00 valhalla 
sm-mta[31804]: l9H1Srwd031804: SYSERR(root): collect: I/O error on connection 
from [61.177.142.218], from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>^M
Logging to FILE /var/log/spool^M


So something IS sending it twice, once at pri 22, no flags, then once
at 166 flags 17. (Unless by some configuration flukeyness its "reprocessing"
the line). So IMHO its not getting something improperly terminated. Its
getting the line twice at different pri/flags causing it to prepend the
"Oct 16 00:00:25 valhalla kernel:" to the already formatted 
"Oct 16 21:29:00 valhalla sm-mta[31804]: l9H1Srwd031804: SYSERR(root): collect: 
I/O error on connection from [61.177.142.218], from=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

The question is is it because of some weird syslog config, or
is it sendmail (8.13.1)?

Thanks, Tuc
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Re: Why FreeBSD procfs is so different from the Linux one?

[Josh Paetzel]

Jonathan Chen wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 02:24:49AM -0700, Yuri wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > When I look at /proc/PID/ in FreeBSD I see the files:
> > cmdline ctl dbregs  etype   filefpregs  map mem note
> > notepg 
> > regsrlimit  status
> > and in Linux:
> > cmdline  cpu  cwd  environ  exe  fd  maps  mem  mounts  root  stat  statm  
> > status
> > 
> > Why there's such a difference in procfs interface to the process 
> > information?
> > 
> > In addition Linux has /proc/self/ link which is named curproc in FreeBSD.
> > 
> > Isn't it better to have the same interface across the systems?
> 
> Maybe. Why don't you get the Linux guys to change theirs? FreeBSD has
> been around longer.

Well, technically no.  BSD predates linux, but linux predates FreeBSD
by a few years.  In general though, linux is a reimplimentation and
they've had a habit of changing things in the process, but for any
given interface it's not generally accurate to say linux is the
reimplimentationsometimes they are, sometimes they aren't.

-- 
Thanks,

Josh Paetzel


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Re: SCHED_4BSD in RELENG_7 disturbs workflow

[Patrick Lamaiziere]

Le Tue, 16 Oct 2007 21:14:15 +0200,
"[LoN]Kamikaze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :

> Quite the contrary on RELENG_7. During a portupgrade or even worse
> 'pkgdb -L' (recovering lost dependencies) audio players (both
> graphical and mplayer) scatter, either because they don't get the
> hard-disk or CPU-cycles (which one, I don't know) and the focused
> application also often hangs. It just looks like occasionally (under
> load) everything freezes for a second and then goes on relatively
> normal.

I've got the same problem on 7.0-PRERELEASE/i386. Audio players
scatter when the machine is loaded. On 6.2 it worked fine (with Xorg
7.3 too). With SCHED_ULE it is a lot better.

I put a full dmesg here :
http://user.lamaiziere.net/patrick/dmesg.txt

Regards.
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Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

[Rob]

Lisandro Grullon wrote:

Hi Michael,
Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you told me I still unable 
to load www.freebsd.org, why am I able to load www.uk.freebsd.org and not the 
US domain, is there something wrong with the US website? I can't seem to find 
logic here.


Let's see.. the problem is your stupid operating system and it's browser.

Why the hell do you continue to whine to us about it?

Take it up with billy gates and his minions.

  -Rob

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Re: what's happening with xorg?

[Roland Smith]

On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 11:36:09AM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> > The default setting for gamma is 1. Try e.g. 2. See also xorg.conf(5).
> 
>   I'll try your xgamma -gamma 2 suggestion, below.  Thanks for the
>   data-point.  I read [[ skimmed-thru ]] xorg.conf.  This is another
>   man page that you've got to prrint out, go into a corner, and read
>   ... very slowly  :-|

The good news is that the autodetection of Xorg has improved a lot. In a
lot of cases you can run 7.3 without xorg.conf.

>   Ja.  In fact, only when everything is maxed out (brightness &&
>   contrast) does the screen approach "dingy grey". Otherwise, it's
>   something like "light mud" ... and I'm not trying to be funny.

You should make sure that this is not a hardware problem. Try using
another monitor or another VGA cable. If you can get your hands on
another graphics card (maybe built-in graphics on the mobo?) try that as
well.


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Re: Strange perl script

[DAve]

Jack Raats wrote:
>>> HI
>>>
>>> Can anyone explain this after ps -ax | grep perl
>>>
>>> 21893  ??  I  1:02.37 sploger (perl5.8.8)
>>> 29536  ??  R184:14.94 sploger (perl5.8.8)
>>> 29538  ??  R184:36.44 sploger (perl5.8.8)
>>> 30668  ??  R168:56.54 sploger (perl5.8.8)
>>>
>>> What is sploger?
> 
>> Looks sort of like a Perl script running.
>> That, of course, doesn't say what it is doing.
> 
> The stangest thing is that I cann't find sploger on  my system. After a
> reboot sploger doesn't appear anymore, which makes it more stranger.
> 
> Jack
> 

Do you have any services available to the outside from the machine? FTP,
telnet, ssh, mysql, apache?

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Re: FreeBSD support for Jetway J7F4

[Roland Smith]

On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 08:14:29PM +0200, Erik Norgaard wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> I have searched around to verify that everything works fine for this 
> motherboard with integrated CPU: Jetway J7F4. I understand it has a CN700 
> north bridge and a VT8237R or VT8237RP south bridge, and Realtek RLT8110SC 
> dual LAN.
> 
> I have found reports that FreeBSD hangs when doing ifconfig re1 up, has 
> this been solved? Does it work if only one NIC is used?

No experience with the RLT8110S, but the two Realtek RT8139 in my
machine work OK.

> I understand from wikipedia that autonegotiate of SATA speed with VT8237R 
> fails, but what about VT8237RP? Not a huge problem though, I plan to get a 
> disk that accepts speed setting by a jumper.
> 
> Does RAID work with this south bridge?

I've got RAID1 working with this chip:

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rev=0x80 hdr=0x00
vendor = 'VIA Technologies Inc'
device = 'VT8237  VT6410 SATA RAID Controller'
class  = mass storage
subclass   = RAID

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Re: Strange perl script

[James]

On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 22:05 +0200, Jack Raats wrote:

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> >> HI
> >>
> >> Can anyone explain this after ps -ax | grep perl
> >>
> >> 21893  ??  I  1:02.37 sploger (perl5.8.8)
> >> 29536  ??  R184:14.94 sploger (perl5.8.8)
> >> 29538  ??  R184:36.44 sploger (perl5.8.8)
> >> 30668  ??  R168:56.54 sploger (perl5.8.8)
> >>
> >> What is sploger?
> >
> > Looks sort of like a Perl script running.
> > That, of course, doesn't say what it is doing.
> 
> The stangest thing is that I cann't find sploger on  my system. After a
> reboot sploger doesn't appear anymore, which makes it more stranger.
> 
> Jack
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...at this point, I'd probably perform a security audit, just to be
sure. Check your access logs etc.

James
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Re: Strange perl script

[Josh Carroll]

> The stangest thing is that I cann't find sploger on  my system. After a
> reboot sploger doesn't appear anymore, which makes it more stranger.

So you have done a:

find / -name sploger -type f

And nothing comes up? If that's the case, it sounds like it was a perl
script that was run, then subsequently removed from the file system.
Which sounds rather nefarious to me. You might want to check for
rootkits, etc.

Josh
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Re: Strange perl script

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HI

Can anyone explain this after ps -ax | grep perl

21893  ??  I  1:02.37 sploger (perl5.8.8)
29536  ??  R184:14.94 sploger (perl5.8.8)
29538  ??  R184:36.44 sploger (perl5.8.8)
30668  ??  R168:56.54 sploger (perl5.8.8)

What is sploger?


Looks sort of like a Perl script running.
That, of course, doesn't say what it is doing.


The stangest thing is that I cann't find sploger on  my system. After a
reboot sploger doesn't appear anymore, which makes it more stranger.

Jack

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Re: FreeBSD 6.2 + my gensnmptree issue

[Jeff Royle]

Hartmut Brandt wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, Jeff Royle wrote:

JR>I am having an issue which is most likely my lack of understanding and not a
JR>problem with 6.2 itself.
JR>
JR>The system is running 6.2-RELEASE and I use bsnmpd.  Here is the uname
JR>output.
JR>
JR>FreeBSD lucky.orisit 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Wed Oct 10 10:40:51
JR>EDT 2007
JR>
JR>What I am trying to do is get bsnmp to respond to new MIBs, specifically
JR>UCD-SNMP-MIB.
JR>
JR>After reading the manpages for bsnmp and gensnmptree I believe gensnmptree is
JR>the command I need to use.
JR>
JR>This is where I get into trouble.   The gensnmptree command doesn't give me
JR>any results no matter what I do.  Even using a bug report example of
JR>gensnmptree -e sysName gives me no results.
JR>
JR>So I proceeded to do some more google searching and noticed gensnmpdef was
JR>referenced several times as the program which may be what I need to use.
JR>
JR>I found the code for this in /usr/src/contrib/bsnmp/gensnmpdef without a
JR>makefile.   There is no gensnmpdef in /usr/sbin on the system but it is in
JR>the /usr/ports/net-mgt/bsnmpd/pkg-plist.
JR>
JR>So I guess I need some guidance.   Can I use gensnmptree to get this MIB into
JR>the bsnmp system? If so how is this done? -or- Is there a problem with the
JR>6.2 release for gensnmpdef and that is in fact the program I am suppose to be
JR>using?
JR>
JR>Any assistance would be appreciated.

Well, yes that would be the tool, but things are more complicated. BSNMP 
uses a special file format (the .def files) to automatically create some 
tables and #defines when you implement a MIB. If you invent your own MIB, 
you normally write the .def file from scratch. It basically contains the 
same info as the MIB file, but in a less baroque and more machine-parsable 
format. If you're going to implement a MIB for which you already have a 
MIB file you can shorten the time to write the .def file by feeding the 
MIB file into gensnmpdef. It will create you an initial .def file, which, 
in most cases, you have to edit, though.
But having the .def file is only the start of implementing. Because then 
you must write the action routines that actually implement the MIB 
behaviour. You might look under /usr/src/contrib/bsnmp/snmp_mibII. Here 
you find an example .def file the contents of which you might find 
familiar. The .c files there implement the semantic of the standard MIB-2.


gensnmpdef is not built automatically, because it requires libsmi which 
you need to install from ports.




This explains much about what I was confused with.  Thank you for the 
quick response.


It was fairly simple to get the port installed and get 
/usr/src/contrib/bsnmp/gensnmpdef compiled and installed.


From there I went and built my ucd_tree.def file using gensnmpdef which 
I had to edit as you said.


I see after doing this and looking into the examples you suggested this 
would be a bit more involved then I initially thought.   I was able to 
generate some .c/.h files using gensnmptree but from there the legwork 
goes beyond me a bit.  Looks like I have to look into this deeper.


I do have one remaining question.   How is the gensnmptree -l command 
used exactly?  Something like cat ucd_tree.c | gensnmptree -l ?




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Re: postgresql and initdb

[Chuck Swiger]

On Oct 17, 2007, at 12:02 PM, Chad Perrin wrote:
I've installed PostgreSQL here on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, and I'm a  
little

confused by the presence of the initdb(1) manpage and absence of an
initdb command.

  # locate initdb
  /usr/local/man/man1/initdb.1.gz
  /usr/ports/databases/postgresql73-server/files/patch-src-bin- 
initdb-Makefile
  /usr/ports/databases/postgresql74-server/files/patch-src-bin- 
initdb-Makefile

  /usr/ports/www/rt2/files/patch-tools-initdb

Any hints?


This:

% head /usr/ports/databases/postgresql74-server/pkg-plist-server
bin/initdb
bin/initlocation
bin/ipcclean
bin/pg_controldata
bin/pg_ctl
bin/pg_id
bin/pg_resetxlog
bin/postgres
bin/postmaster
etc/periodic/daily/502.pgsql

...suggests it will be put in /usr/local/bin/initdb (modulo $ 
{LOCALBASE}, if changed)-- try doing a rehash if needed.  :-)


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Re: [OT] proper editor

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 15:47 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
> 
> Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 08:47 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
> >   
> >> Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Hi there, I'm beginner.
> >>>
> >>> Please recommend for proper editor so that ...
> >>> I want to practice *Python* under best environment ...
> >>>
> >>> vim, emacs, gedit, or notepad.exe, ... 
> >>>
> >>> If you give me good advice about that, I'll study very hard ...
> >>>
> >>> So which one is best editor? ...
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>>   
> >> There is no such thing as a "best" editor. Which one you know better NOW?
> >> If the goal is to study Python (assuming no previous experience), go
> >> along with the easiest for you. For starters, if you are using a  GUI,
> >> go with Python's own IDLE environment. It is not "advanced", but neither
> >> are you at this point. And it does have some advantages (like immediate
> >> execution of commands to try out things).
> >> Spending time learning a complex editor like vi or emacs, will certainly
> >> pay up in the long run though.
> >> 
> >
> > Nope. I don't care what it costs. I don't care even if I have to learn a
> > complex editor for long time ...
> >
> > To tell truth, I really want to learn Python with a complex editor like
> > Emacs. I feel so sorry for I object to your professional opinion;; 
> >
> >   
> :) :) This is not a professional opinion, it is just a way of thinking
> that may or may not apply to you in this case (or generally).
> You are welcome to start learning both Python and Emacs at the same
> time, and delve deep at both. In fact, there are so many editors and
> programming languages available in FreeBSD you can spend an entire
> lifetime learning. It *is* my exact defintion of *having fun* !

Thanks for the guidance, you've helped me. Indeed ;;

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postgresql and initdb

[Chad Perrin]

I've installed PostgreSQL here on FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE, and I'm a little
confused by the presence of the initdb(1) manpage and absence of an
initdb command.

  # locate initdb
  /usr/local/man/man1/initdb.1.gz
  /usr/ports/databases/postgresql73-server/files/patch-src-bin-initdb-Makefile
  /usr/ports/databases/postgresql74-server/files/patch-src-bin-initdb-Makefile
  /usr/ports/www/rt2/files/patch-tools-initdb

Any hints?

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Re: [OT] proper editor

[James]

> I made the decision to go with Emacs. Thank you for encouraging me ;;
> 


PAH! Entirely wrong! Vi forever!


(kidding, kidding)

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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

[Jerry McAllister]

On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 08:39:44PM +0200, Ivan Voras wrote:

> On 17/10/2007, Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > There are just many of us who would like a little more ongoing information
> > on how it is going - such as what you give above, plus maybe an occasional
> > guess update.
> 
> You can get all that information by monitoring the developer mailing
> lists. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a nice one to start.

That can be more than we really need to know and less clue on
the prognosis that is hoped for.

jerry
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Re: [OT] proper editor

[Byung-Hee HWANG]

On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 20:00 +0200, cpghost wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:53:09 +0900
> Byung-Hee HWANG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 08:47 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
> > > Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
> > > > Hi there, I'm beginner.
> > > >
> > > > Please recommend for proper editor so that ...
> > > > I want to practice *Python* under best environment ...
> > > >
> > > > vim, emacs, gedit, or notepad.exe, ... 
> > 
> > To tell truth, I really want to learn Python with a complex editor
> > like Emacs. I feel so sorry for I object to your professional
> > opinion;; 
> 
> As others already pointed out, it doesn't really matter which
> editor you use. Use the one you feel most comfortable with at
> the moment.
> 
> Personally, I use Emacs' (Python Mode) to edit Python programs,
> and try out code snippets in the Python Shell, either from
> within a separate xterm, or, sometimes from within an Emacs
> shell buffer. If you're on Windows though, it's probably easier
> to simply use the editor that comes with IDLE. It's good enough
> for most cases and does syntax coloring too. :)

I made the decision to go with Emacs. Thank you for encouraging me ;;

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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

[Ivan Voras]

On 17/10/2007, Jerry McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> There are just many of us who would like a little more ongoing information
> on how it is going - such as what you give above, plus maybe an occasional
> guess update.

You can get all that information by monitoring the developer mailing
lists. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a nice one to start.
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Re: what's happening with xorg?

[Gary Kline]

On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 08:18:53PM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 11:46:27PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> > > You could try playing with the gamma value of the monitor. When X is
> > > running you can use xgamma to adjust the gamma setting. You can also set
> > > this with the Gamma entry in the Monitor section of xorg.conf.
> > 
> > 
> > Or should I ask somebbody to put back in the Radeon  card?  (i
> > think that was the card i thought was "going bad"... ) Otherwise,
> > I'll try the "Gamma"  entry in my Monitor section with my G450.
> > What value should I use?  Or if it is boolen, do I try settting
> > it to "on"??
> 
> The default setting for gamma is 1. Try e.g. 2. See also xorg.conf(5).

I'll try your xgamma -gamma 2 suggestion, below.  Thanks for the
data-point.  I read [[ skimmed-thru ]] xorg.conf.  This is another
man page that you've got to prrint out, go into a corner, and read
... very slowly  :-|

> 
> Alternatively you can try to change it while X is running by typing
> 'xgamma -gamma 2' in a terminal. This does require that the
> VidModeExtension is active, i.e. the ServerFlags option
> DisableVidModeExtension should _not_ be set.


Good to know. So far, none of the flags are set.

> 
> > PS: to you, or to any other driver wizards::: is this mga driver
> > still being hacked-on?  The screen is only "dingy grey" not
> > black.  (*mumble*)
> 
> It looks like it is still in development; 
> http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-mga/
> 
> BTW, I was assuming you have tried adjusting the brightness and contrast
> settings of the monitor?


Ja.  In fact, only when everything is maxed out (brightness &&
contrast) does the screen approach "dingy grey". Otherwise, it's
something like "light mud" ... and I'm not trying to be funny.
At least the hackers are still developing this driver.  I booted 
my DOS partition and it recognized problems  and finally
displayed a 1024x768 display.  

have a good one,

gary


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FreeBSD support for Jetway J7F4

[Erik Norgaard]

Hi:

I have searched around to verify that everything works fine for this 
motherboard with integrated CPU: Jetway J7F4. I understand it has a 
CN700 north bridge and a VT8237R or VT8237RP south bridge, and Realtek 
RLT8110SC dual LAN.


I have found reports that FreeBSD hangs when doing ifconfig re1 up, has 
this been solved? Does it work if only one NIC is used?


I understand from wikipedia that autonegotiate of SATA speed with 
VT8237R fails, but what about VT8237RP? Not a huge problem though, I 
plan to get a disk that accepts speed setting by a jumper.


Does RAID work with this south bridge?

Thanks, Erik

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CDROM Sony CDU55E not detected

[Reinhard Haller]

Hi,

I recently installed freebsd 6.2 from cd. After the reboot the cdrom drive
wan't discovered.

Any suggestions?

Thanks
Reinhard

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Re: what's happening with xorg?

[Roland Smith]

On Tue, Oct 16, 2007 at 11:46:27PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> > You could try playing with the gamma value of the monitor. When X is
> > running you can use xgamma to adjust the gamma setting. You can also set
> > this with the Gamma entry in the Monitor section of xorg.conf.
> 
> 
>   Or should I ask somebbody to put back in the Radeon  card?  (i
>   think that was the card i thought was "going bad"... ) Otherwise,
>   I'll try the "Gamma"  entry in my Monitor section with my G450.
>   What value should I use?  Or if it is boolen, do I try settting
>   it to "on"??

The default setting for gamma is 1. Try e.g. 2. See also xorg.conf(5).

Alternatively you can try to change it while X is running by typing
'xgamma -gamma 2' in a terminal. This does require that the
VidModeExtension is active, i.e. the ServerFlags option
DisableVidModeExtension should _not_ be set.

>   PS: to you, or to any other driver wizards::: is this mga driver
>   still being hacked-on?  The screen is only "dingy grey" not
>   black.  (*mumble*)

It looks like it is still in development; 
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-mga/

BTW, I was assuming you have tried adjusting the brightness and contrast
settings of the monitor?

Roland
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Re: how to make a patch

[Giorgos Keramidas]

On 2007-10-16 15:10, "Aryeh M. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I found and fixed a bug in one of the ports how do I make a patch file
> (I only changed one line in one file) and who do I send it to?

If you know precisely the file, you can use diff(1) to generate the
patch file.

Note that patch files for ports have to be constructed in a "special"
way, so that the "make patch" target can find them and apply them
correctly.

  1. Keep a copy of the patched file around, i.e. at `/tmp/foo.c'

  2. Clean-up the "work" subdirectory of the port, and extract a clean
 version of the port's patched source:

 # cd /usr/ports/editors/foobar
 # rm -fr work
 # make patch

  3. Enter the work/foobar-1.0 build directory of the port, and save the
 original, unpatched file you want to modify at port-build-time:

 # cd work/foobar-1.0
 # cp src/foo.c src/foo.c.orig

  4. Now overwrite the build-tree copy of `foo.c' with the saved copy
 from step 1.

 # cp /tmp/foo.c src/foo.c

  5. Use the diff utility from within the `work/foobar-1.0' tree to
 generate a ports-based patch:

 # pwd
 /usr/ports/editors/foobar/work/foobar-1.0
 # diff -u src/foo.c.orig src/foo.c > /tmp/patch-src-foo.c

  6. Now that you have the 'fix' as a patch in /tmp/patch-src-foo.c, you
 can remove the temporary `work' directory of the port, and install
 the patch in `files' as a normal ports-based-patch:

 # cd /usr/ports/editors/foobar
 # rm -fr work
 # cp -i /tmp/patch-src-foo.c files/

 If there's already an existing `patch-src-foo.c' file in `files',
 the last command will prompt you for overwriting the old patch.
 Don't do it.  Just pick a non-conflicting name for the second patch
 which applies on top of `src/foo.c', i.e.:

 # cp -i /tmp/patch-src-foo.c files/patch-src-foo.c-bugfixname

 where `bugfixname' is a tag which can help the port maintainers
 understand why this patchfile is needed.

After you have installed `patch-src-foo.c' in the `files' subdirectory
of the port, you should be able to run:

 # cd /usr/ports/editors/foobar
 # make patch

and your patchfile should be applied automatically.

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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

[Jerry McAllister]

On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 07:28:12PM +0200, Moretti Filippo wrote:

> Wojciech Puchar scrive: 
> 
> >
> >>Anyone known why this time the release of 7.0 is so late ? In generaly 
> >>the
> >>date on http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html
> 
> If you read carefully it says start releasing process,it is not the same as 
> to say this is a releasing date.

Yes.   I noticed that and figured the OP was just having some language
difficulty.

> sincerely
> Filippo
> PS you can now upgrade to Releng_7 if you need to try it out 

Yup.Except it is still not at RELEASE condition and for some 
things that is valuable.   So, we're waiting until things are ready 
and just hoping to get some help looking through the impenetrable veil 
that is the future.

jerry

> 
> is alway very optimist.
> >
> >late for whom?
> 
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Re: Is the bison port moving in reverse?

[Kris Kennaway]

Chad Perrin wrote:

I get this:

  # portversion -v | grep -v =
  bison-1.75_2,1  >  succeeds port (port has 2.3_3)

Any idea why?  Judging by the numbers, I'd think that > should be <
instead.  Nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING seems to apply here.



Looks like PORTEPOCH was incorrectly removed.  Talk to maintainer.

Kris
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Is the bison port moving in reverse?

[Chad Perrin]

I get this:

  # portversion -v | grep -v =
  bison-1.75_2,1  >  succeeds port (port has 2.3_3)

Any idea why?  Judging by the numbers, I'd think that > should be <
instead.  Nothing in /usr/ports/UPDATING seems to apply here.

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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

[Jerry McAllister]

On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 07:28:35PM +0200, Ivan Voras wrote:

> Gueven Bay wrote:
> 
> > So, but the original question was : What is not working _now_  at this
> > moment so that 7 cannot be released _now_ ?
> 
> I can think of several issues of the top of my head:
> 
> - rt_check bug in network routing causes panics under certain
> circumnstances (my favorite)
> - ZFS relatively often panics the system under high load
> - Something's also wrong with UFS under certain circumstances (this one
> hasn't bit me yet)
> 
> Of these, first one has a patch (as of yesterday) that is very likely to
> solve the problem, the second has a temporary-looking patch to patch
> around the problem, and the third bug is still not tracked down yet.
> 
> There may be more. I seem to recall there's something in the TCP/IP
> stack but it has never bit me so I don't know the details.

Thanks.   That is useful information.

> 
> The point is - you *don't* want an unstable operating system on a
> production machine. It's best we all wait until these get solved.
> 
> Yes, theoretically there could be a release with these known bugs still
> unresolved, but I recall at least one previous release that did that
> (IIRC 6.0 with (g)vinum was unbootable under some circustances) and that
> has resulted in a bunch of negative press toward FreeBSD.

No one is arguing against that.  All are in favor of waiting until
it is ready.   

There are just many of us who would like a little more ongoing information 
on how it is going - such as what you give above, plus maybe an occasional 
guess update.

jerry

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Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

[NetOpsCenter]

Bill Moran wrote:

In response to Lisandro Grullon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

  

This is insane, the FreebSD team needs to find a more liable solution to this 
problem, hence some of our prospects users that will be browsing the site with 
vista machi9nes will just go away without knowing what is going on. Is the team 
currently working gin a solution to this problem, after all most networks still 
routing through IPv6. Patiently waiting for an answer...Lisandro Grullon



The following is taken from the script of government informational video
#3378:

Commentator: Fear not!

[Cut to scenes of Post WWII networking facilities ravaged by the war.
Half-starving network technicians are trying to repair antiquated
routers and switches.]

Commentator: The FreeBSD team is working feverishly to solve this problem.
Unfortunately, the resolution requires the replacement of billions of
dollars worth of network equipment spread across the world, much of it
owned by private companies who have little or no knowledge of the
problem or the solution.

[Cut to air-drops of new networking equipment being dropped over war-
torn cities.  Crowds of people line the streets and cheer as the
parachutes drop gently to the ground right in front of the local telco.]

Commentator: Luckily, the FreeBSD project has scores of influential
computer technicians all over the world, and they're all working to
solve the problem.  We believe that, in time, this scourge on our
network can be removed!

[Cut to shots of community groups meeting in churches with laptops.]

Commentator: What can you do to help?  Work to track down the exact
cause of your particular network problem and report it to the responsible
party.  Volunteer with your local user's group for whatever needs done!
Help to organize others and spread the news!


  

Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:07:55 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

On 10/16/07, Lisandro Grullon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  

Dear all users,
After troubleshooting from all angles this problem i have run out of 
imagination/sense. I loaded a machine with Windows Vista a work and try 
accessing the www.freebsd.org website. The web site didn't load, yet I try 
again in 10 other machines to see if it was a machine issue. Lastly I try 
loading the size in a Windows XP machine and it works ok. What seems to be the 
problem in this case? I have run out of ideas and even ask a few colleges at 
work and they don't seem to have a clue either. Please advise. Lisandro grullon


>From the section "Compatibility problems" of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TCP_window_scale_option

"TCP Window Scaling is widely implemented in the Windows Vista
operating system. Because many routers do not properly implement TCP
Window Scaling, it can cause a users Internet connection to
malfunction intermittently for a few minutes, then appear to start
working again for no reason. If "diagnose problem" is selected in
Vista, an error message will be displayed "cannot communicate with
primary DNS server."
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Re: [OT] proper editor

[cpghost]

On Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:53:09 +0900
Byung-Hee HWANG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 08:47 +0300, Manolis Kiagias wrote:
> > Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
> > > Hi there, I'm beginner.
> > >
> > > Please recommend for proper editor so that ...
> > > I want to practice *Python* under best environment ...
> > >
> > > vim, emacs, gedit, or notepad.exe, ... 
> 
> To tell truth, I really want to learn Python with a complex editor
> like Emacs. I feel so sorry for I object to your professional
> opinion;; 

As others already pointed out, it doesn't really matter which
editor you use. Use the one you feel most comfortable with at
the moment.

Personally, I use Emacs' (Python Mode) to edit Python programs,
and try out code snippets in the Python Shell, either from
within a separate xterm, or, sometimes from within an Emacs
shell buffer. If you're on Windows though, it's probably easier
to simply use the editor that comes with IDLE. It's good enough
for most cases and does syntax coloring too. :)

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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

[Moretti Filippo]

Wojciech Puchar scrive: 



Anyone known why this time the release of 7.0 is so late ? In generaly 
the

date on http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html


If you read carefully it says start releasing process,it is not the same as 
to say this is a releasing date.

sincerely
Filippo
PS you can now upgrade to Releng_7 if you need to try it out 











is alway very optimist.


late for whom?
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Re: xmh port in 6.2

[[LoN]Kamikaze]

Pollywog wrote:
> I am doing an upgrade of ports in FreeBSD 6.2 and apparently xmh is no longer 
> part of the Ports collection, but when I saw "yes" to remove it, portmanager 
> complains that it is required by xorg and xfce.  What is the problem here, 
> anyone know?

The new origin is x11/xmh.
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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

[Bob Johnson]

On 10/17/07, Albert Shih <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all
>
>
> Anyone known why this time the release of 7.0 is so late ? In generaly the
> date on http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html is alway very optimist.
>
> But this time it's almost 5 mounth (annonced june 2007).
>
> I've see somewhere it's because 7.0 come with gcc 4.2 and many ports don't
> compile. Is this the reason ?

According to http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.0R/todo.html there is a
very short list of things left to fix. The most important issue is
some sort of TCP problem (TCP timers are listed as requiring more
testing).

Unless someone in release engineering answers your question, that's
the best official information I'm aware of.

- Bob
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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

[Ivan Voras]

Gueven Bay wrote:

> So, but the original question was : What is not working _now_  at this
> moment so that 7 cannot be released _now_ ?

I can think of several issues of the top of my head:

- rt_check bug in network routing causes panics under certain
circumnstances (my favorite)
- ZFS relatively often panics the system under high load
- Something's also wrong with UFS under certain circumstances (this one
hasn't bit me yet)

Of these, first one has a patch (as of yesterday) that is very likely to
solve the problem, the second has a temporary-looking patch to patch
around the problem, and the third bug is still not tracked down yet.

There may be more. I seem to recall there's something in the TCP/IP
stack but it has never bit me so I don't know the details.

The point is - you *don't* want an unstable operating system on a
production machine. It's best we all wait until these get solved.

Yes, theoretically there could be a release with these known bugs still
unresolved, but I recall at least one previous release that did that
(IIRC 6.0 with (g)vinum was unbootable under some circustances) and that
has resulted in a bunch of negative press toward FreeBSD.



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Re: syslog marking sendmail output as "kernel:"

[Chuck Swiger]

On Oct 16, 2007, at 6:01 PM, Matt Emmerton wrote:
There must be somewhere in the kernel where we're writing to the  
syslog with an empty error string.  The syslog routines expect a  
newline-terminated character string, so the lack of a newline  
causes the next entry to be on the same line as the (non-existant)  
kernel message.


Actually, syslog should be just fine without getting a trailing  
newline; from the manpage:


"The message is identical to a printf(3) format string, except  
that `%m'
 is replaced by the current error message.  (As denoted by the  
global
 variable errno; see strerror(3).)  A trailing newline is added  
if none is

 present."

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RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

[Michael K. Smith - Adhost]

Hello Lisandro:

Sure, here's the output from a Vista laptop and ping.

C:\>ping www.freebsd.org

Pinging www.freebsd.org [2001:4f8:fff6::21] from 2001:468:1420:f:5872:c1f6:31bd:
2608 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 2001:4f8:fff6::21: time=144ms
Reply from 2001:4f8:fff6::21: time=142ms
Reply from 2001:4f8:fff6::21: time=143ms
Reply from 2001:4f8:fff6::21: time=143ms

Ping statistics for 2001:4f8:fff6::21:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 142ms, Maximum = 144ms, Average = 143ms

C:\ >ping www.uk.freebsd.org

Pinging web008.pavilion.net [212.74.4.8] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.74.4.8: bytes=32 time=139ms TTL=43
Reply from 212.74.4.8: bytes=32 time=137ms TTL=43
Reply from 212.74.4.8: bytes=32 time=138ms TTL=43
Reply from 212.74.4.8: bytes=32 time=138ms TTL=43

Ping statistics for 212.74.4.8:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 137ms, Maximum = 139ms, Average = 138ms

So, even though I didn't tell Vista to use IPv6 for www.freebsd.org, that's 
what it found first.  Thankfully, I'm IPv6 enabled on my laptop so I can reach 
the site.  It appears that the UK site is not advertising IPv6 yet so you can 
still reach it.

Here is another link directly from Microsoft that might have more options for 
disabling IPv6 in your Vista machine.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/network/ipv6/ipv6faq.mspx

Regards,

Mike

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisandro Grullon
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 10:21 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
> 
> Hi Michael,
> Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you told me I
> still unable to load www.freebsd.org, why am I able to load
> www.uk.freebsd.org and not the US domain, is there something wrong with
> the US website? I can't seem to find logic here.
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:08:15 -0700
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > CC:
> > Subject: RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
> >
> > Hello Lisandro:
> >
> > You can try this from a command prompt.
> >
> > netsh interface teredo set state disabled
> >
> > That disables teredo for the entire system.  I don't think you can
> just disable it for the browser.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisandro Grullon
> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:50 AM
> > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > > Subject: RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
> > >
> > >
> > > I follow your instructions as you outline them here using Firefox,
> > > close and restart the browser and still not working. Please advise.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:27:13 +0200
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > > > Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
> > > >
> > > > 2007/10/17, Lisandro Grullon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > > How do I disable ipv6 in my browser, if you can elaborate on
> that
> > > it would be helpful. Thanks in advance.Lisandro
> > > > >
> > > > > Please provide both exmaples for IE and Firefox.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't know how to disable IPv6 in IE. But for Firefox:
> > > > 1) you type "about:config" into the address line at the top
> > > > 2) then in the filter/search field you type "ipv6"
> > > > 3) you see a line with "network.dns.disableIPv6 ..."
> > > > 4) you click with right mouse key and choose "Editing"
> > > > 5) type "true" into the value field
> > > > 6) have fun
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RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

[Lisandro Grullon]

Hi Michael,
Thank you for your suggestion, but after trying what you told me I still unable 
to load www.freebsd.org, why am I able to load www.uk.freebsd.org and not the 
US domain, is there something wrong with the US website? I can't seem to find 
logic here.



> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 09:08:15 -0700
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> CC: 
> Subject: RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
> 
> Hello Lisandro:
> 
> You can try this from a command prompt.
> 
> netsh interface teredo set state disabled
> 
> That disables teredo for the entire system.  I don't think you can just 
> disable it for the browser.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisandro Grullon
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:50 AM
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Subject: RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
> > 
> > 
> > I follow your instructions as you outline them here using Firefox,
> > close and restart the browser and still not working. Please advise.
> > 
> > 
> > > Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:27:13 +0200
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > > Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
> > >
> > > 2007/10/17, Lisandro Grullon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > How do I disable ipv6 in my browser, if you can elaborate on that
> > it would be helpful. Thanks in advance.Lisandro
> > > >
> > > > Please provide both exmaples for IE and Firefox.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I don't know how to disable IPv6 in IE. But for Firefox:
> > > 1) you type "about:config" into the address line at the top
> > > 2) then in the filter/search field you type "ipv6"
> > > 3) you see a line with "network.dns.disableIPv6 ..."
> > > 4) you click with right mouse key and choose "Editing"
> > > 5) type "true" into the value field
> > > 6) have fun
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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

[Bill Moran]

In response to "Gueven Bay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 2007/10/17, Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > while companies like Microsoft must publish in time to make the share 
> > > holders
> >
> > not to mention that microsoft regularly has delays like year.
> >
> > > happy, FreeBSD can afford to wait until the programmers are convinced that
> > > their work is good enough for the public.
> > >
> > > Erich
> 
> Please,
> 
> stop mentioning this company in every discussion that "seems" to
> "attack" *BSD in some way.
> 
> Discussing M. - especially their development processes or business
> tactics - does not accomplish anything for us.
> 
> First acknowledge that FBSD 7 is late. The estimate was for 5 months
> ago. And if I say to someone I want to meet him at 8 o'clock but
> arrive 78 hours later, then I am late. Period.
> 
> But as several community members already said: No one is really
> waiting for 7 so that the developers can take their time to make it as
> perfect as possible.
> 
> So, but the original question was : What is not working _now_  at this
> moment so that 7 cannot be released _now_ ?
> The original question was not (I repeat NOT): Which  international
> conspiracy is holding up the developers of FreeBSD 7 from releasing?
> Without discussing M. or the Illuminati and U.F.O.s

AHA!  I knew that the Illuminati were using UFOs to hold up this
releast! I knew it!

[Wrapping the tinfoil around my head]  Who's paranoid now? huh?  You
all laughed at me before, but now you see I was right all along!

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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

[Gueven Bay]

2007/10/17, Wojciech Puchar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > while companies like Microsoft must publish in time to make the share 
> > holders
>
> not to mention that microsoft regularly has delays like year.
>
> > happy, FreeBSD can afford to wait until the programmers are convinced that
> > their work is good enough for the public.
> >
> > Erich

Please,

stop mentioning this company in every discussion that "seems" to
"attack" *BSD in some way.

Discussing M. - especially their development processes or business
tactics - does not accomplish anything for us.

First acknowledge that FBSD 7 is late. The estimate was for 5 months
ago. And if I say to someone I want to meet him at 8 o'clock but
arrive 78 hours later, then I am late. Period.

But as several community members already said: No one is really
waiting for 7 so that the developers can take their time to make it as
perfect as possible.

So, but the original question was : What is not working _now_  at this
moment so that 7 cannot be released _now_ ?
The original question was not (I repeat NOT): Which  international
conspiracy is holding up the developers of FreeBSD 7 from releasing?
Without discussing M. or the Illuminati and U.F.O.s and with that
guaranteeing that the original question will never be answered you can
concentrate on answering OR you can take your "finger" from the reply
button/menue point/whatever and wait that maybe a developer will read
the original posters mail and answer it.



With a curious eye waiting for a real answer to the original question...
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RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

[Michael K. Smith - Adhost]

Hello Lisandro:

You can try this from a command prompt.

netsh interface teredo set state disabled

That disables teredo for the entire system.  I don't think you can just disable 
it for the browser.

Regards,

Mike

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-freebsd-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisandro Grullon
> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 8:50 AM
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
> 
> 
> I follow your instructions as you outline them here using Firefox,
> close and restart the browser and still not working. Please advise.
> 
> 
> > Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:27:13 +0200
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
> >
> > 2007/10/17, Lisandro Grullon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > How do I disable ipv6 in my browser, if you can elaborate on that
> it would be helpful. Thanks in advance.Lisandro
> > >
> > > Please provide both exmaples for IE and Firefox.
> > >
> >
> > I don't know how to disable IPv6 in IE. But for Firefox:
> > 1) you type "about:config" into the address line at the top
> > 2) then in the filter/search field you type "ipv6"
> > 3) you see a line with "network.dns.disableIPv6 ..."
> > 4) you click with right mouse key and choose "Editing"
> > 5) type "true" into the value field
> > 6) have fun
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RE: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.

[Lisandro Grullon]

I follow your instructions as you outline them here using Firefox, close and 
restart the browser and still not working. Please advise.


> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 15:27:13 +0200
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> Subject: Re: www.freebsd.org won't load in IE 7.x in vista box.
> 
> 2007/10/17, Lisandro Grullon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > How do I disable ipv6 in my browser, if you can elaborate on that it would 
> > be helpful. Thanks in advance.Lisandro
> >
> > Please provide both exmaples for IE and Firefox.
> >
> 
> I don't know how to disable IPv6 in IE. But for Firefox:
> 1) you type "about:config" into the address line at the top
> 2) then in the filter/search field you type "ipv6"
> 3) you see a line with "network.dns.disableIPv6 ..."
> 4) you click with right mouse key and choose "Editing"
> 5) type "true" into the value field
> 6) have fun
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Re: FreeBSD 6.2 + my gensnmptree issue

[Hartmut Brandt]

On Wed, 17 Oct 2007, Jeff Royle wrote:

JR>I am having an issue which is most likely my lack of understanding and not a
JR>problem with 6.2 itself.
JR>
JR>The system is running 6.2-RELEASE and I use bsnmpd.  Here is the uname
JR>output.
JR>
JR>FreeBSD lucky.orisit 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Wed Oct 10 10:40:51
JR>EDT 2007
JR>
JR>What I am trying to do is get bsnmp to respond to new MIBs, specifically
JR>UCD-SNMP-MIB.
JR>
JR>After reading the manpages for bsnmp and gensnmptree I believe gensnmptree is
JR>the command I need to use.
JR>
JR>This is where I get into trouble.   The gensnmptree command doesn't give me
JR>any results no matter what I do.  Even using a bug report example of
JR>gensnmptree -e sysName gives me no results.
JR>
JR>So I proceeded to do some more google searching and noticed gensnmpdef was
JR>referenced several times as the program which may be what I need to use.
JR>
JR>I found the code for this in /usr/src/contrib/bsnmp/gensnmpdef without a
JR>makefile.   There is no gensnmpdef in /usr/sbin on the system but it is in
JR>the /usr/ports/net-mgt/bsnmpd/pkg-plist.
JR>
JR>So I guess I need some guidance.   Can I use gensnmptree to get this MIB into
JR>the bsnmp system? If so how is this done? -or- Is there a problem with the
JR>6.2 release for gensnmpdef and that is in fact the program I am suppose to be
JR>using?
JR>
JR>Any assistance would be appreciated.

Well, yes that would be the tool, but things are more complicated. BSNMP 
uses a special file format (the .def files) to automatically create some 
tables and #defines when you implement a MIB. If you invent your own MIB, 
you normally write the .def file from scratch. It basically contains the 
same info as the MIB file, but in a less baroque and more machine-parsable 
format. If you're going to implement a MIB for which you already have a 
MIB file you can shorten the time to write the .def file by feeding the 
MIB file into gensnmpdef. It will create you an initial .def file, which, 
in most cases, you have to edit, though.

But having the .def file is only the start of implementing. Because then 
you must write the action routines that actually implement the MIB 
behaviour. You might look under /usr/src/contrib/bsnmp/snmp_mibII. Here 
you find an example .def file the contents of which you might find 
familiar. The .c files there implement the semantic of the standard MIB-2.

gensnmpdef is not built automatically, because it requires libsmi which 
you need to install from ports.

harti
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Re: xmh port in 6.2

[Pollywog]

On Wednesday 17 October 2007 15:16:53 Pollywog wrote:
> I am doing an upgrade of ports in FreeBSD 6.2 and apparently xmh is no
> longer part of the Ports collection, but when I saw "yes" to remove it,
> portmanager complains that it is required by xorg and xfce.  What is the
> problem here, anyone know?

That came out wrong.

When I say "yes" to the removal of xmh, portmanager complains it is required 
by those other ports.

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Re: Strange perl script

[Jerry McAllister]

On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 07:14:07AM +0200, Jack Raats wrote:

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> 
> HI
> 
> Can anyone explain this after ps -ax | grep perl
> 
> 21893  ??  I  1:02.37 sploger (perl5.8.8)
> 29536  ??  R184:14.94 sploger (perl5.8.8)
> 29538  ??  R184:36.44 sploger (perl5.8.8)
> 30668  ??  R168:56.54 sploger (perl5.8.8)
> 
> What is sploger?

Looks sort of like a Perl script running.
That, of course, doesn't say what it is doing.

jerry

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> Jack
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Re: NIS interoperability with Linux, was Re: Following directions doesn't seem to work: Adding users in NIS

[Manolis Kiagias]

Lowell Gilbert wrote:
> Manolis Kiagias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>   
>> I've read this the first time I tried and decided not to go with it.
>> The manual says:
>> "If you plan to use a FreeBSD system to serve non-FreeBSD
>> clients that have no support for password shadowing (which is
>> most of them), you will have to disable the password shadowing
>> entirely by uncommenting the UNSECURE=True entry in
>>  /var/yp/Makefile."
>>
>> Linux certainly uses password shadowing, and I can see in my debian
>> server maps passwd.byname and shadow.byname files
>> If I perform ypcat passwd.byname from a client I get the standard passwd
>> file with no passwords (exactly like /etc/passwd)
>> The encrypted passwords are in the shadow.byname map.
>>
>> Now, if I understand correctly, the above solution would put the
>> passwords in the passwd.byname map, thus making the system less secure,
>> where in fact I should be able to make FreeBSD export a shadow.byname
>> map that would be compatible with Linux.
>> Am I missing something here / are my assumptions wrong?
>> 
>
> I think you are assuming that Linux uses password shadowing over NIS.
> This is not possible, and no system does it.
>
> The FreeBSD security method in question just forces requests for the
> password maps to come from privileged ports.  This is a very minor
> security method, and other systems don't support it.
>
> Fundamentally, NIS assumes that you trust the machines you are
> serving.  Or at least are willing to let them have the encrypted
> passwords.  No OS can change this; it's not a Linux/FreeBSD issue.  
>
>
>   
I have experimented a bit further with my debian NIS server, and this is
what I found:

>From a NIS client, I can do with my standard user account:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ypcat passwd.byname
user1:x:1010:1010:Joe User,,,:/home/user1:/bin/bash

and I get the standard, world-readable password file (the one without
the passwords)
However, the standard user cannot run:

This is the answer:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ypcat shadow.byname
No such map shadow.byname. Reason: No such map in server's domain

As root, however:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ypcat shadow.byname
user1:$1$1233245435435345543545345sfsdfsfdf:13577:0:9:7:::
...

This seems to be consistent with the FreeBSD NIS Server behaviour
described in nis(8) manual page:

" To help prevent this, FreeBSD's NIS server handles the shadow password
 maps (master.passwd.byname and master.passwd.byuid) in a special
way: the
 server will only provide access to these maps in response to requests
 that originate on privileged ports.  Since only the super-user is
allowed
 to bind to a privileged port, the server assumes that all such requests
 come from privileged users.  All other requests are denied:
requests from
 non-privileged ports will receive only an error code from the server."

So, it seems linux handles this the same way. Difference is linux has a
shadow.byname map while FreeBSD has a master.passwd.byname map
(possibly  also internal differences in the files)

Now, if I understand correctly, If I where to add the UNSECURE feature
in the FreeBSD server, I expect the shadow passwords would be inserted
in the passwd.byname map which is world readable and hence a security
issue. (Perhaps I will do this experiment next and let you know of the
outcome)
This is hardly important for my home server scenario, but it would be, 
should I decide to implement a FreeBSD NIS server somewhere else.
Hence,  the best possible solution would be to get a Makefile for the
FreeBSD NIS server that would produce completely Linux compatible maps.



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xmh port in 6.2

[Pollywog]

I am doing an upgrade of ports in FreeBSD 6.2 and apparently xmh is no longer 
part of the Ports collection, but when I saw "yes" to remove it, portmanager 
complains that it is required by xorg and xfce.  What is the problem here, 
anyone know?
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Re: Install FreeBSD 6.2 and Windows XP prof in the same computer

[Jerry McAllister]

On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 11:49:57AM +0800, williamkow wrote:

> Please provide me more advices on installing multi operating system in a 
> computer. Which one to install first? use which boot loader ? tips and 
> guidelines, and things to causion. Thank you.

Have you read the FreeBSD Handbook?   It and some of the online 
documentation take you step by step through this.   Go to the FreeBSD
web site   (http://www.freebsd.org/)  click on documentation and
chose some of the items in the list, especially the handbook.

One specific item:   Install Winxxx first.  It does not play nicely 
with any other installation if you install it second.   At least in
the beginning, install and use the FreeBSD MBR (boot loader).   You
will be given three options in the FreeBSD install.   Choose that one.
It is a little plain and, if the other OS (Winxxx) is not one of the
few it has display codes for, will just put out '???'.  But, it will
still boot it just fine.

Later, if you feel you need a prettier selection menu while booting,
then you can install something like grub or gag or write your own.
But, the standard FreeBSD MBR works just fine.

So, do some reading.  Then do some experimenting.  Use it for a
while to get comfortable with it.   Then change some things if
you want and reinstall.

jerry

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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

[Wojciech Puchar]

while companies like Microsoft must publish in time to make the share holders


not to mention that microsoft regularly has delays like year.

happy, FreeBSD can afford to wait until the programmers are convinced that 
their work is good enough for the public.


Erich
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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

[Wojciech Puchar]

Anyone known why this time the release of 7.0 is so late ? In generaly the
date on http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html is alway very optimist.


late for whom?
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Re: Regarding Flow of sendto (UDP) using IPv6.

[Lowell Gilbert]

"Prasad Dandra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I have some doubts regarding the BSD stack flow.
> I am very much interested to know the code flow from sendto (UDP case) upto
> udp6_output function when used in IPv6 client (simple client) and also how
> the local port and destination address are assigned without using bind
> when 1st time the sendto is called i.e  where the pcbconnect and pcbbind are
> called (particularly in case of ipv6)?
>
> Any information provided about the links, books to be refered for more
> details will also be helpful.

Bear in mind that the IPv6 implementation in FreeBSD has recently been
exchanged for a different one, but I don't think the basic concepts
are much changed.  For that matter, the IPv4 model (which has plenty
of book documentation covering it) isn't very different.

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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

[Albert Shih]

 Le 17/10/2007 à 22:25:33+0800, Erich Dollansky a écrit
> Hi,
> 
> Albert Shih wrote:
>> Hi all
>> Anyone known why this time the release of 7.0 is so late ? In generaly the
>> date on http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html is alway very optimist. 
>> But this time it's almost 5 mounth (annonced june 2007). 
> 
> while companies like Microsoft must publish in time to make the share 
> holders happy, FreeBSD can afford to wait until the programmers are 
> convinced that their work is good enough for the public.

Yes this thing I known (I'm working with FreeBSD since 4.1).

My question is not very clear, what I'm asking is where, in what part of
the code of 7.x, are the problems. In the ULE ? in compatibility between ports 
and
gcc 4.2, ZFS, etc...

Regards.

--
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Re: apache mod_ssl chroot problem

[James]

> Server beastie.mra.co.id:443 (RSA)
> Enter pass phrase:Apache:mod_ssl:Error: Private key not found.
> **Stopped


Isn't the private key the one on the local machine? If so, is the
private key visible with the chroot environment?
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Re: Strange perl script

[Andy Harrison]

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On 10/17/07, Jack Raats  wrote:
>
> What is sploger?
>

IIRC, you can also do something like:

# pkg_info -p `which sploger`

That'll tell you what port owns that file at least.

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Re: Why 7.0 is so late ?

[Erich Dollansky]

Hi,

Albert Shih wrote:

Hi all


Anyone known why this time the release of 7.0 is so late ? In generaly the
date on http://www.freebsd.org/releng/index.html is alway very optimist. 

But this time it's almost 5 mounth (annonced june 2007). 


while companies like Microsoft must publish in time to make the share 
holders happy, FreeBSD can afford to wait until the programmers are 
convinced that their work is good enough for the public.


Erich
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Re: Regarding Flow of sendto (UDP) using IPv6.

[James]

On Wed, 2007-10-17 at 12:16 +0530, Prasad Dandra wrote:

> Dear All,
> 
> First, I would like to thank you all for the wonderful work of developing
> FreeBSD.
> I have some doubts regarding the BSD stack flow.
> I am very much interested to know the code flow from sendto (UDP case) upto
> udp6_output function when used in IPv6 client (simple client) and also how
> the local port and destination address are assigned without using bind
> when 1st time the sendto is called i.e  where the pcbconnect and pcbbind are
> called (particularly in case of ipv6)?
> 
> Any information provided about the links, books to be refered for more
> details will also be helpful.
> 
> Thank and Regards,
> Prasad
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If it's in the base system, csup your sources - it's in the handbook.

If it's a port, cd /usr/ports/distfiles and untar the source code.


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FreeBSD 6.2 + my gensnmptree issue

[Jeff Royle]

I am having an issue which is most likely my lack of understanding and 
not a problem with 6.2 itself.


The system is running 6.2-RELEASE and I use bsnmpd.  Here is the uname 
output.


FreeBSD lucky.orisit 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE #0: Wed Oct 10 
10:40:51 EDT 2007


What I am trying to do is get bsnmp to respond to new MIBs, specifically 
 UCD-SNMP-MIB.


After reading the manpages for bsnmp and gensnmptree I believe 
gensnmptree is the command I need to use.


This is where I get into trouble.   The gensnmptree command doesn't give 
me any results no matter what I do.  Even using a bug report example of 
gensnmptree -e sysName gives me no results.


So I proceeded to do some more google searching and noticed gensnmpdef 
was referenced several times as the program which may be what I need to use.


I found the code for this in /usr/src/contrib/bsnmp/gensnmpdef without a 
makefile.   There is no gensnmpdef in /usr/sbin on the system but it is 
in the /usr/ports/net-mgt/bsnmpd/pkg-plist.


So I guess I need some guidance.   Can I use gensnmptree to get this MIB 
into the bsnmp system? If so how is this done? -or- Is there a problem 
with the 6.2 release for gensnmpdef and that is in fact the program I am 
suppose to be using?


Any assistance would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Jeff Royle
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