Re: can anybody explain?
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 05:41:44PM +1100, Norberto Meijome wrote:
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 22:01:50 -0800
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since my line went dead last Friday I've been having troubles
simply building a new kernel. I cvsup'd RELENG_6_2 last time,
rebuilt the kernel with KERNCONF=GENERIC and now with
KERNCONF=TAO. My new /boot/kernel/kernel is 7.4 megs and it
*hangs* part way up. I've tried building with the new GENERIC and
with TAO that has only two devices added. One is atapicam, the
other is cpufreq (just now added). The old kernel is around 4
megs. My last try is RELENG_6. No diff.
Hey Gary,
- did u clean your /usr/obj
- do you have a good source tree? when in doubt, wipe and re-get (or try a
different csup mirror first...that sometimes makes the difference)
B
Yes, Beto, I did a /bin/rm -rf of /usr/obj. At least 3 times.
I also tried to upgrade 6.2 (twice), now I'm grabbing 6.3
or whatever RELENG_6 will get me...
I think it has to do with that autoload {or whatever} is the
first think that appears after the square box of options.
I only saw the string for a n instant; it may have been overwritten.
I'm using cvsup7. Not good?
gary
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Re: Upper limit on make -j ?
Brian wrote: Isn't 1000 an unrealistically high value? Brian On a system with only 2 cores and 2GB RAM - yes. I'm not sure that even with a huge number of cores you'd get much benefit from running such a massively parallel make, unless the build system is more intelligent than I think it is. -- Bruce ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking for IRC(chat) network with #freebsd channel (English language)
On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 15:42 +0800, williamkow wrote: [...] *NickServ irc://irc.freenode.net/NickServ,isnick* Password accepted - you are now recognized =-= User mode for wwwkow is now +e then you join #FreeBSD, type below command: /join #FreeBSD is there anything else i can help you? Do you mean I must registered a nickname first, before I can see a particular channel ? But I have registerred, (see above list), and still can not find a channel for #FreeBSD (english-based). #FreeBSD is the #FreeBSD (english-based). respect, bh -- I don't care what it costs. I don't care if we have to fight all the five families in New York. The Tattaglia Family is going to be wiped out. -- Santino Corleone, Chapter 4, page 95 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: how to compile and install a new driver
Chuck Robey wrote: Nice description, but you'd better include enough info so that they could make FreeBSD-stype diffs: diff has the unfortunate default of making an output that is compatible with ed(1). This supplies extremely little information to use, in case the file you're trying to patch with that diff has changed, and is also damned hard for mere humans to understand. There are two other options you can give to diff that change the format: -c gives context diffs, and -u gives unified diffs, and the -u is the option that is standard with FreeBSD. It's not FreeBSD's default, it's POSIX's and has been the default behaviour of diff since forever (i.e. before -c or -u had even been invented); it is also the default behaviour of diff on every version of Linux I've ever used as well and probably every unix-like box you can get your hands on. Backwards compatibility *is* a wonderful thing. -u is a newbie to the diff world of options and is the strongly *preferred* way of providing patches, and probably not just for FreeBSD. It's generally the easiest for humans to read and the best for general use, though -c isn't that hard either and can sometimes be easier to comprehend. --Alex ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: stability of FreeBSD 7 Beta 3?
On 26/11/2007, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course not :P What are the PR references? Try this. Login to twice on ssh. If not root su both to root. using the 2nd tty do a watch -W on the first tty. on the first tty type 'killall watch' you have now crashed freebsd 7 and most probably a auto reboot timer is counting down. I can confirm this. Even typing reboot to reboot the server causes page faults. But not this. Kris Hi Kris http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=116719 is the watch report http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=116720 for the reboot The reboot stopped crashing when I recompiled world using -O I have however seen it on other servers crashing on -O binaries its not consistent like the watch problem but its on numerous servers I seen the problem on. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: stability of FreeBSD 7 Beta 3?
Chris wrote: On 26/11/2007, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course not :P What are the PR references? Try this. Login to twice on ssh. If not root su both to root. using the 2nd tty do a watch -W on the first tty. on the first tty type 'killall watch' you have now crashed freebsd 7 and most probably a auto reboot timer is counting down. I can confirm this. Even typing reboot to reboot the server causes page faults. But not this. Kris Hi Kris http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=116719 is the watch report http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=116720 for the reboot The reboot stopped crashing when I recompiled world using -O I have however seen it on other servers crashing on -O binaries its not consistent like the watch problem but its on numerous servers I seen the problem on. Unfortunately both of these are not high quality PR submissions, which is probably why no action has been taken yet. At least in the first one you give a how to repeat that I was able to follow, but in general when you encounter a panic you should be providing the backtrace and/or other debugging information requested here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html The second PR is basically null as written since it cannot be reproduced and no debugging information was submitted. If you are interested in proceeding with it, please reproduce and obtain the necessary kernel debugging. Otherwise we should close it. Does the patch I sent you solve the first problem? Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: stability of FreeBSD 7 Beta 3?
On 28/11/2007, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chris wrote: On 26/11/2007, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course not :P What are the PR references? Try this. Login to twice on ssh. If not root su both to root. using the 2nd tty do a watch -W on the first tty. on the first tty type 'killall watch' you have now crashed freebsd 7 and most probably a auto reboot timer is counting down. I can confirm this. Even typing reboot to reboot the server causes page faults. But not this. Kris Hi Kris http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=116719 is the watch report http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=116720 for the reboot The reboot stopped crashing when I recompiled world using -O I have however seen it on other servers crashing on -O binaries its not consistent like the watch problem but its on numerous servers I seen the problem on. Unfortunately both of these are not high quality PR submissions, which is probably why no action has been taken yet. At least in the first one you give a how to repeat that I was able to follow, but in general when you encounter a panic you should be providing the backtrace and/or other debugging information requested here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html The second PR is basically null as written since it cannot be reproduced and no debugging information was submitted. If you are interested in proceeding with it, please reproduce and obtain the necessary kernel debugging. Otherwise we should close it. Does the patch I sent you solve the first problem? Kris Ok first an apology there was feedback to 116720 which I didnt know until now. I did another crash on the watch but had foreground fsck set in rc.conf and did another immediate reboot afterwards and as expected because no bg fsck running it didnt crash. Patching it now and will also enable full debugging on the kernel. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Upper limit on make -j ?
Brian wrote: There's a thread on the -stable list about 8 cores being an issue in a very specific case. I couldn't imagine setting j to something more than 2x or 3x at the most of your available cores. So it's okay by you that freebsd utilities crash when you overload them? Not to me ;-) BTW, Aryeh, posting 800KB of your buildworld output to the mailing list is exceedingly lame and doesn't help anything. Please study the gdb trace provided by Bruce: that is the kind of debugging that was required here, not huge amounts of irrelevant text from your console. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel Compile Error
Hey, I'm running FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE. I recently csuped the source code (src-all) and built world. I then tried to make buildkernel, and it ran for a little while, then gave the following error and stopped: http://schiz0.securityexploits.com/make.buildkernel.out The error is at the bottom - that is the log of the entire buildkernel process. I recompiled my kernel cause I wanted to add linux support. The only change I made to my kernel config, was adding the line: optionsCOMPAT_LINUX Compiling the kernel using the same config (Without that COMPAT_LINUX line) worked perfectly in the past. Thanks for your time, ~Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel Compile Error
Schiz0 wrote: Hey, I'm running FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE. I recently csuped the source code (src-all) and built world. I then tried to make buildkernel, and it ran for a little while, then gave the following error and stopped: http://schiz0.securityexploits.com/make.buildkernel.out The error is at the bottom - that is the log of the entire buildkernel process. I see no error -- looks like you didnt' copy enough of it. use -DNO_CLEAN to skip all the rm -f stuff at the start when you post the new output. -- Philip M. Gollucci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) o:703.549.2050x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2nd try : tap SIOCIFCREATE failure
When creating the tap interface, my system gives the following FreeBSD# uname -a FreeBSD FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD# kldstat Id Refs AddressSize Name 1 11 0xc040 6f7554 kernel 21 0xc0af8000 140c0snd_hda.ko 32 0xc0b0d000 479a8sound.ko 41 0xc0b55000 1d278kqemu.ko 51 0xc0b73000 8ea4 aio.ko 61 0xc4f44000 9000 if_bridge.ko 71 0xc5079000 16000linux.ko 81 0xc60ce000 4000 if_tap.ko FreeBSD# ifconfig tap0 create ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE: Invalid argument Trying to get this running so my qemu clients have network access... Thanks in advance, Alain ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network Configuration with Jails.
Hello, I run a FreeBSD Jailer and I want to have multiple jails in 2 seperate networks. The server has 2 network interfaces and each of them are connected in a different network. Say vlan1 and vlan2. My problem is that all the network traffic is going through the first interface (vlan1). What I need is that a jail in vlan1 can't communicate with a jail in vlan2 (and vice-versa). Is it possible to split the network traffic in the right interfaces and use a diffrent default gateway for each of them ? Here is my /etc/rc.d configuration. defaultrouter=192.168.1.1 static_routes=vlan1 vlan2 route_vlan1=-net 192.168.1.0/24 192.168.1.1 route_vlan2=-net 192.168.2.0/24 192.168.2.1 # vlan1 interface config. ifconfig_bge0=inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig_bge0_alias0=192.168.1.11 netmask 255.255.255.255 # vlan2 interface config. ifconfig_bge1=inet 192.168.2.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig_bge1_alias0=inet 192.168.2.11 netmask 255.255.255.255 I tried to remove the default gateway but then the server was unreachable. I am thinking of using pf to resolve my issue. Any suggestions or ideas ? Thanks in advance for your help. -- Felix Langelier Unix Sysadmin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2nd try : tap SIOCIFCREATE failure
Am Mittwoch, 28. November 2007 15:00:35 schrieb Alain G. Fabry: FreeBSD# uname -a FreeBSD FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD# kldstat Id Refs AddressSize Name 1 11 0xc040 6f7554 kernel 21 0xc0af8000 140c0snd_hda.ko 32 0xc0b0d000 479a8sound.ko 41 0xc0b55000 1d278kqemu.ko 51 0xc0b73000 8ea4 aio.ko 61 0xc4f44000 9000 if_bridge.ko 71 0xc5079000 16000linux.ko 81 0xc60ce000 4000 if_tap.ko FreeBSD# ifconfig tap0 create ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE: Invalid argument Try: ifconfig tap create -- Heiko Wundram Product Application Development ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Configuration with Jails.
Félix Langelier wrote: Hello, I run a FreeBSD Jailer and I want to have multiple jails in 2 seperate networks. The server has 2 network interfaces and each of them are connected in a different network. Say vlan1 and vlan2. My problem is that all the network traffic is going through the first interface (vlan1). What I need is that a jail in vlan1 can't communicate with a jail in vlan2 (and vice-versa). Is it possible to split the network traffic in the right interfaces and use a diffrent default gateway for each of them ? Here is my /etc/rc.d configuration. defaultrouter=192.168.1.1 static_routes=vlan1 vlan2 route_vlan1=-net 192.168.1.0/24 192.168.1.1 route_vlan2=-net 192.168.2.0/24 192.168.2.1 # vlan1 interface config. ifconfig_bge0=inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig_bge0_alias0=192.168.1.11 netmask 255.255.255.255 # vlan2 interface config. ifconfig_bge1=inet 192.168.2.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig_bge1_alias0=inet 192.168.2.11 netmask 255.255.255.255 I tried to remove the default gateway but then the server was unreachable. I am thinking of using pf to resolve my issue. Removing the default gateway will work, but you have to add back _similiar_ routes, you can't just remove it. -- Philip M. Gollucci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) o:703.549.2050x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2nd try : tap SIOCIFCREATE failure
Alain G. Fabry wrote: When creating the tap interface, my system gives the following FreeBSD# uname -a FreeBSD FreeBSD 6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD# kldstat Id Refs AddressSize Name 1 11 0xc040 6f7554 kernel 21 0xc0af8000 140c0snd_hda.ko 32 0xc0b0d000 479a8sound.ko 41 0xc0b55000 1d278kqemu.ko 51 0xc0b73000 8ea4 aio.ko 61 0xc4f44000 9000 if_bridge.ko 71 0xc5079000 16000linux.ko 81 0xc60ce000 4000 if_tap.ko FreeBSD# ifconfig tap0 create ifconfig: SIOCIFCREATE: Invalid argument I never had to manually issue the create command, you should just see it in the ifconfig -a output. When qemu starts, Opened by process id id should be in the ifconfig output by the tap0 interface. You'll need to use the /etc/qemuifup or whatever its called, I forget. Or the command line options to set networking info like netmask, ip, gateway for the tap. -- Philip M. Gollucci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) o:703.549.2050x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Finding and installing new locale
У уторак, 28. новембра 2007 у 17:24:47, Westin Shafer [EMAIL PROTECTED] је написао(ла): Thanks for the info. I had not seen that doc. However localedef and makelocale are not valid commands. I also checked out the port tree and these tools are not located there either. Are these Linux specific commands? The command is mklocale(1). id_ID locale(s) are not included in FreeBSD. If you have correct LC_* files, you should talk to FreeBSD team member responsible for l10n, (which is, according to http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/articles/contributors/staff-who.html Andrey) about official inclusion. I also suggest you to use [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list for that purpose. Beside this, please don't forget that, if you just need Indonesian translations of userland applications, you can just install appropriate ports, for example: misc/kde3-i18n-idIndonesian messages and documentation for KDE3 textproc/id-aspell Aspell Indonesian dictionary Finally, you might find this page useful: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/l10n.html Best regards. -- Nikola Lečić :: Никола Лечић ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ls -l takes a forever to finish.
find no aliease for ls -l df returns the following. So looks like there is restill about 40 G on the partition. ilesystem SizeUsed Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/aacd0s1a 97G 57G 33G64%/ devfs1.0K1.0K 0B 100%/dev devfs1.0K1.0K 0B 100%/var/named/dev Thanks mark - Original Message - From: Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:35 PM Subject: Re: ls -l takes a forever to finish. Is a partition close to full, use df to see that. Is ls -l aliased to something else that is digging into your directory tree, like when you're in /usr and type du? brian On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Mark Evans wrote: I'm using FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE. When I run ls -l it takes forever for the it to complete. top shows that the ls -l command uses about 98% of the CPU doing the time. If I run ls I do not experience any problem. anyone have any ideas? Thanks Mark ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.25/744 - Release Date: 4/3/2007 5:32 AM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ls -l takes a forever to finish.
No we are not using NIS. it is a large directory i am listing. actually it is the /usr/home directory, and is probably the largest on the system. However ls -l runs for close to six minutesand spends the 10 seconds scrolling the screen with the results. so i wait ls to start showing the results for about 5 and a half minutes. Even on a older and much slower system i've never seen it talk more than 15 seconds to complete. Thanks Mark - Original Message - From: Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:13 PM Subject: Re: ls -l takes a forever to finish. Mark Evans wrote: I'm using FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE. When I run ls -l it takes forever for the it to complete. top shows that the ls -l command uses about 98% of the CPU doing the time. If I run ls I do not experience any problem. anyone have any ideas? Are you using NIS for user/group lookups? Is it a large directory that is taking a long time to sort? Kris -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.25/744 - Release Date: 4/3/2007 5:32 AM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ls -l takes a forever to finish.
HOW large is the directory? ls | wc -l On Nov 28, 2007 7:44 AM, Mark Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No we are not using NIS. it is a large directory i am listing. actually it is the /usr/home directory, and is probably the largest on the system. However ls -l runs for close to six minutesand spends the 10 seconds scrolling the screen with the results. so i wait ls to start showing the results for about 5 and a half minutes. Even on a older and much slower system i've never seen it talk more than 15 seconds to complete. Thanks Mark - Original Message - From: Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:13 PM Subject: Re: ls -l takes a forever to finish. Mark Evans wrote: I'm using FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE. When I run ls -l it takes forever for the it to complete. top shows that the ls -l command uses about 98% of the CPU doing the time. If I run ls I do not experience any problem. anyone have any ideas? Are you using NIS for user/group lookups? Is it a large directory that is taking a long time to sort? Kris -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.25/744 - Release Date: 4/3/2007 5:32 AM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: short Q
On 11/27/07, jekillen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Originally, I was in a hurry and was having trouble with ports. This approach had worked for three machines. But one I was having endless problems with. Meanwhile I got it together to get ports to work. But the port did not install a startup script for MySQL, at least in /etc/rc.d, The port should have installed a startup script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ That is where ports usually install their startup scripts. Adding scripts to /etc/rc.d can create confusion when you update the OS some time in the future. - Bob ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ls -l takes a forever to finish.
On Wed, 2007-11-28 at 09:44 -0600, Mark Evans wrote: No we are not using NIS. it is a large directory i am listing. actually it is the /usr/home directory, and is probably the largest on the system. However ls -l runs for close to six minutesand spends the 10 seconds scrolling the screen with the results. so i wait ls to start showing the results for about 5 and a half minutes. Even on a older and much slower system i've never seen it talk more than 15 seconds to complete. Thanks Mark How many directories, roughly? I've seen ls take *many* minutes listing the contents of a directory that contained tens of thousands of files. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ls -l takes a forever to finish.
ls | wc returns88368836 71583 Thanks Mark - Original Message - From: Jeff Mohler To: Mark Evans Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: Re: ls -l takes a forever to finish. HOW large is the directory? ls | wc -l On Nov 28, 2007 7:44 AM, Mark Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No we are not using NIS. it is a large directory i am listing. actually it is the /usr/home directory, and is probably the largest on the system. However ls -l runs for close to six minutesand spends the 10 seconds scrolling the screen with the results. so i wait ls to start showing the results for about 5 and a half minutes. Even on a older and much slower system i've never seen it talk more than 15 seconds to complete. Thanks Mark - Original Message - From: Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mark Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:13 PM Subject: Re: ls -l takes a forever to finish. Mark Evans wrote: I'm using FreeBSD 6.1-RELEASE. When I run ls -l it takes forever for the it to complete. top shows that the ls -l command uses about 98% of the CPU doing the time. If I run ls I do not experience any problem. anyone have any ideas? Are you using NIS for user/group lookups? Is it a large directory that is taking a long time to sort? Kris -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.25/744 - Release Date: 4/3/2007 5:32 AM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.25/744 - Release Date: 4/3/2007 5:32 AM ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ls -l takes a forever to finish.
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 09:44:03 -0600 Mark Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No we are not using NIS. it is a large directory i am listing. actually it is the /usr/home directory, and is probably the largest on the system. However ls -l runs for close to six minutesand spends the 10 seconds scrolling the screen with the results. so i wait ls to start showing the results for about 5 and a half minutes. Even on a older and much slower system i've never seen it talk more than 15 seconds to complete. Does it run (much) faster with the -f flag or -lf flags? I have a similar problem with *huge* directories: sorting them is incredibly slow... though -l makes no difference; it's the sorting itself than makes one think it is O(N^2) instead of O(N log N). It could be a pathological case of Quicksort (ls(1) calls fts_open(), which itself calls fts_sort() from /usr/src/lib/libc/gen/fts.c, and that function calls qsort(3); so it's not entirely impossible... -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
skype cannot login
Hi All, My network configuration is a bit odd: Internet --- SMC Hardware Router (192.168.1.0/225.255.255.0) --- FreeBSD Gateway --- (192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0) --- Client computer - skype is running on the client computer. - The FreeBSD Gateway is a computer with two NIC cards, running natd, and named - The client computer is 6.3-PRERELEASE i386 using linux compatibility mode for skype I can access everything on the internet from the client. Here are some things that I tried: - ping - nslookup - smtp - imaps - www All the above work fine. However, when I try to login with skype, it tells me Logging in failed. When I try to register a new user, it tells me Register failed with friendly red letters. Do you have any idea what is the problem with my configuration? It might be that skype cannot do NAT traversal through two NATs? BTW, the client computer uses NFS to mount /, but I hope this is not related to the problem. Thanks, Laszlo ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel Compile Error
On Nov 28, 2007 8:47 AM, Philip M. Gollucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Schiz0 wrote: Hey, I'm running FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE. I recently csuped the source code (src-all) and built world. I then tried to make buildkernel, and it ran for a little while, then gave the following error and stopped: http://schiz0.securityexploits.com/make.buildkernel.out The error is at the bottom - that is the log of the entire buildkernel process. I see no error -- looks like you didnt' copy enough of it. use -DNO_CLEAN to skip all the rm -f stuff at the start when you post the new output. Hey, That make.buildkernel.out is the entire output of that make buildkernel process. I used script /root/make.buildkernel.out to record it, then just copied the file to my web server. I didn't manually copy/paste or edit anything out. I cleared /usr/obj/ and ran make cleandir twice, as the Handbook says to. I then recompiled world without any error. I ran make -DNO_CLEAN buildkernel KERNCONF=my kernel config and got the following output: http://schiz0.securityexploits.com/make.buildkernel2.out It doesn't look like it provides any more information than the previous output did. It's obviously some error with the COMPAT_LINUX option in the kernel config. Thanks for the help and the quick reply, ~Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel Compile Error
Schiz0 wrote: On Nov 28, 2007 8:47 AM, Philip M. Gollucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Schiz0 wrote: Hey, I'm running FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE. I recently csuped the source code (src-all) and built world. I then tried to make buildkernel, and it ran for a little while, then gave the following error and stopped: http://schiz0.securityexploits.com/make.buildkernel.out The error is at the bottom - that is the log of the entire buildkernel process. I see no error -- looks like you didnt' copy enough of it. use -DNO_CLEAN to skip all the rm -f stuff at the start when you post the new output. linux_ipc.o(.text+0x8e4):/usr/src/sys/compat/linux/linux_ipc.c:583: undefined reference to `__semctl'^M linux_ipc.o(.text+0x918): In function `linux_msgsnd':^M /usr/src/sys/compat/linux/linux_ipc.c:600: undefined reference to `msgsnd'^M linux_ipc.o(.text+0x94e): In function `linux_msgrcv':^M /usr/src/sys/compat/linux/linux_ipc.c:619: undefined reference to `msgrcv'^M linux_ipc.o(.text+0x970): In function `linux_msgget':^M /usr/src/sys/compat/linux/linux_ipc.c:632: undefined reference to `msgget'^M linux_ipc.o(.text+0x9d2): In function `linux_msgctl':^M /usr/src/sys/compat/linux/linux_ipc.c:650: undefined reference to `kern_msgctl'^M linux_ipc.o(.text+0xa4d): In function `linux_shmat':^M /usr/src/sys/compat/linux/linux_ipc.c:680: undefined reference to `shmat'^M linux_ipc.o(.text+0xaae): In function `linux_shmdt':^M /usr/src/sys/compat/linux/linux_ipc.c:699: undefined reference to `shmdt'^M linux_ipc.o(.text+0xad6): In function `linux_shmget':^M /usr/src/sys/compat/linux/linux_ipc.c:714: undefined reference to `shmget'^M linux_ipc.o(.text+0xb18): In function `linux_shmctl':^M /usr/src/sys/compat/linux/linux_ipc.c:733: undefined reference to `kern_shmctl'^M linux_ipc.o(.text+0xb68):/usr/src/sys/compat/linux/linux_ipc.c:748: undefined reference to `kern_shmctl'^M linux_ipc.o(.text+0xbb0):/usr/src/sys/compat/linux/linux_ipc.c:761: undefined reference to `kern_shmctl'^M linux_ipc.o(.text+0xc00):/usr/src/sys/compat/linux/linux_ipc.c:773: undefined reference to `kern_shmctl'^M linux_ipc.o(.text+0xc7c):/usr/src/sys/compat/linux/linux_ipc.c:792: undefined reference to `kern_shmctl'^M linux_ipc.o(.text+0xcd2):/usr/src/sys/compat/linux/linux_ipc.c:808: more undefined references to `kern_shmctl' follow^M Add these 3 to your kernel config file near the end. Don't use the -DNO_CLEAN when you build this time. That was just to cut down on the output in the log file (or when you intentionally don't want to delete the build from the previous attempt or success) options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores -- Philip M. Gollucci ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) o:703.549.2050x206 Senior System Admin - Riderway, Inc. http://riderway.com / http://ridecharge.com 1024D/EC88A0BF 0DE5 C55C 6BF3 B235 2DAB B89E 1324 9B4F EC88 A0BF Work like you don't need the money, love like you'll never get hurt, and dance like nobody's watching. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
remove X11
I have X11 installed on a server 6.1. Is there an easy way to remove it all? Do I have to remove each package individually? Jeff Maxwell POS Department Manager Uni-Marts, LLC VM 814-234-6000 Fax 570-829-4390 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: stability of FreeBSD 7 Beta 3?
On 28/11/2007, Kris Kennaway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately both of these are not high quality PR submissions, which is probably why no action has been taken yet. At least in the first one you give a how to repeat that I was able to follow, but in general when you encounter a panic you should be providing the backtrace and/or other debugging information requested here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/developers-handbook/kerneldebug.html The second PR is basically null as written since it cannot be reproduced and no debugging information was submitted. If you are interested in proceeding with it, please reproduce and obtain the necessary kernel debugging. Otherwise we should close it. Does the patch I sent you solve the first problem? Kris Ok the patch hasnt stopped the watch crashing in addition the reboot I did after compiling the new kernel also caused a crash and there was defenitly no fsck running in the background when I did the reboot. Nov 28 12:21:52 revolution kernel: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode Nov 28 12:21:52 revolution kernel: cpuid = 0; apic id = 00 Nov 28 12:21:52 revolution kernel: fault virtual address= 0x24 Nov 28 12:21:52 revolution kernel: fault code = supervisor read, page not present Nov 28 12:21:52 revolution kernel: instruction pointer = 0x20:0xc3f84262 Nov 28 12:21:52 revolution kernel: stack pointer= 0x28:0xde0c2b34 Nov 28 12:21:52 revolution kernel: frame pointer= 0x28:0xde0c2b88 Nov 28 12:21:52 revolution kernel: code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xf, type 0x1b Nov 28 12:21:52 revolution kernel: = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 Nov 28 12:21:52 revolution kernel: processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 Nov 28 12:21:52 revolution kernel: current process = 901 (sh) Nov 28 12:21:52 revolution kernel: trap number = 12 Nov 28 12:21:52 revolution kernel: panic: page fault Nov 28 12:21:52 revolution kernel: cpuid = 0 Nov 28 12:21:52 revolution kernel: Uptime: 49m19s Nov 28 12:21:52 revolution kernel: Physical memory: 723 MB Nov 28 12:21:52 revolution kernel: Dumping 122 MB: 107 91 75 59 43 27 11 Nov 28 12:21:52 revolution kernel: Dump complete Nov 28 12:21:52 revolution kernel: Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort I will post back later when I have more debug information for you. Chris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: apple bonjour served up on FBSD
the mDNSResponder port is up to date (moreso than even the apple download site) so i installed that with the port. it requires swig13 port as well.. which installed from the port just fine. after you get all that installed and working w/o errors, there is a bonjour python script set that will at least test the functionality and get it registered for services. I am still in the 'finding out' stages for this. I will post my findings that might help someone else on their journey.. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 17:49:05 + Subject: apple bonjour served up on FBSD I am going to be making my BSD server at home available to my wife's macbook running Leopard. I am planning on implementing one of the mDNSResponder systems, but I am having some issues deciding which one to use. I have found the mDNSResponder from apple itself. I have also found (in no particular order) avahi-server p5-Net-Rendezvous My end goal is a server that will be able to share out iTunes and a printer to a Bonjour network. Does anyone have a suggestion on a recent setup? _ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_112007___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: skype cannot login
On Nov 28, 2007 2:29 PM, Laszlo Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, My network configuration is a bit odd: Internet --- SMC Hardware Router (192.168.1.0/225.255.255.0) --- FreeBSD Gateway --- (192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0) --- Client computer - skype is running on the client computer. - The FreeBSD Gateway is a computer with two NIC cards, running natd, and named - The client computer is 6.3-PRERELEASE i386 using linux compatibility mode for skype I can access everything on the internet from the client. Here are some things that I tried: - ping - nslookup - smtp - imaps - www All the above work fine. However, when I try to login with skype, it tells me Logging in failed. When I try to register a new user, it tells me Register failed with friendly red letters. Do you have any idea what is the problem with my configuration? It might be that skype cannot do NAT traversal through two NATs? BTW, the client computer uses NFS to mount /, but I hope this is not related to the problem. Thanks, Laszlo Lazlo, I've found a similar problem, but in Skype there are a configuration in Tools that tells Skype the port to use. Try port 80 as I did and worked. Rodolfo Bojo Pellegrino ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: remove X11
Jeff Maxwell wrote: I have X11 installed on a server 6.1. Is there an easy way to remove it all? Do I have to remove each package individually? Suppose you have installed the xorg server, you could remove it easily. But it also matters how you installed. If you did it from ports, you can probably cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg make deinstall I recommend that you read these manual pages: pkg_info pkg_add pkg_delete pkg_deinstall (might not be on your system) Best, Laszlo ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Free Shipping on Great Hockey Gifts
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Re: remove X11
In response to Laszlo Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jeff Maxwell wrote: I have X11 installed on a server 6.1. Is there an easy way to remove it all? Do I have to remove each package individually? I highly recommend the pkg_cutleaves port, which makes this kind of thing many orders of magnitude easier. -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: skype cannot login
Rodolfo Pellegrino wrote: On Nov 28, 2007 2:29 PM, Laszlo Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, My network configuration is a bit odd: Internet --- SMC Hardware Router (192.168.1.0/225.255.255.0) --- FreeBSD Gateway --- (192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0) --- Client computer - skype is running on the client computer. - The FreeBSD Gateway is a computer with two NIC cards, running natd, and named - The client computer is 6.3-PRERELEASE i386 using linux compatibility mode for skype I can access everything on the internet from the client. Here are some things that I tried: - ping - nslookup - smtp - imaps - www All the above work fine. However, when I try to login with skype, it tells me Logging in failed. When I try to register a new user, it tells me Register failed with friendly red letters. Do you have any idea what is the problem with my configuration? It might be that skype cannot do NAT traversal through two NATs? BTW, the client computer uses NFS to mount /, but I hope this is not related to the problem. Thanks, Laszlo Lazlo, I've found a similar problem, but in Skype there are a configuration in Tools that tells Skype the port to use. Try port 80 as I did and worked. All items in the tools menu are greyed out for me, except for Select Language. I see an item called Options... but it is not available. Skype version is: 1.2.0.18_API Thanks, Laszlo ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
looking for syscalls especifications
Hello. I was wondering if there is any place where i can get the specifications used to write the syscalls. I was reading the syscalls.master and it only says the number and name of the syscall, and only few are documented at man. Any idea who could have that kind of documentation? As example, what determines the permitions of a just created file? (From experiments i got they 000) same with the otehr almost 5000 syscalls :-/ Thanks for any help. Sdav ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: remove X11
Do I have to remove each package individually? Suppose you have installed the xorg server, you could remove it easily. But it also matters how you installed. If you did it from ports, you can probably cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg make deinstall That just deletes the metaport (which is purely a list of dependencies), try: ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves I stand corrected. :-) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Advanced Routing/Firewall Interface Options for FreeBSD 7
Hello, I am trying to combine my file server and router into a single box. Before you tell me this is a bad idea, let me remind you this is a personal installation (not intensive file serving) and the machine and NICs are fairly beefy. FreeBSD 7 supports ZFS. From there, NFS and Samba are easy. I've been using Solaris for this, but it's rather archaic in many ways, and the only reason I use it is for the stable ZFS support. Everything else in Solaris - given my needs - is a poor match. Can anybody suggest what options there are for having a router/ firewall configuration interface placed atop FreeBSD 7 with ZFS? I want something along the lines of pfSense (GUI for traffic shaping, hopefully setup a simple VPN) that can also serve files and perhaps run some software that puts free CPU cycles to use. Maybe I might run Apache/MySQL for testing a few sites locally. Any ideas? pfSense is not designed to work atop a standard FreeBSD distribution, nor is m0n0wall, and even if I used or modified their integrated distribution, I suspect it lacks ZFS support. -Galen ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: remove X11
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:40:24 +0100 Laszlo Nagy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Maxwell wrote: I have X11 installed on a server 6.1. Is there an easy way to remove it all? Do I have to remove each package individually? Suppose you have installed the xorg server, you could remove it easily. But it also matters how you installed. If you did it from ports, you can probably cd /usr/ports/x11/xorg make deinstall That just deletes the metaport (which is purely a list of dependencies), try: ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
7.0 installation, and Xorg in particular
I used to find FreeBSD easy. What has happened? I have a couple of machines I usually install new versions on, one is headless the other is a desktop machine (which was a 100% reliable 5.4 installation). I boot the headless machine using floppies, then install across the net. But something has happened such that I now need five floppies, and I have to put the boot one in at least twice. This wasn't the case previously. It now reminds me of an OS/2 installation with its floppy shuffling. Then for my desktop machine. sysinstall crashes if I try to install x.org. So I do a pkg_add -r xorg. After about 70 packages I give up. I only used to have about 65 packages in total on my old desktop, now I need more than 70 and I haven't even got x windows up yet. So I go off and have a look and discover that x.org 7.x is modular - http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/unix/bsd/archives/xorg-72-on-freebsd-13661;. This fellow is talking about 300 packages just for x.org! This is nuts. No two ways about it. Whoever decided to do this needs their head (or heads) examined. It used to be so simple. Now it's not. If x.org didn't work for some reason I wouldn't want to track down which of hundreds of packages is missing. Who would? Also, I noticed that python as well as perl was being installed. Is not one scripting language enough for x.org? Why are two needed? I am really frustrated. I don't understand how installing X* this way is supposed to be an improvement. What does it actually give me that I didn't have before? Note my old system was reliable, as is my desktop at work (a 6.2 machine). I was so frustrated that I gave up installing 7 on my home desktop and am now in Windows land. It just seems so pointless. It reminds me of the nastiness of Gnome, which has bazillions of packages, and Gnome needs nearly all of them so why make them separate? I've done enough head banging tonight. Maybe Xfree86 is still available. I haven't looked yet. Frem. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Major filesystem problems after crash on 7.0-BETA3 (SOLVED)
On Tue, November 27, 2007 15:22, Kris Kennaway wrote: Doug Poland wrote: On Mon, November 26, 2007 15:03, Doug Poland wrote: On Mon, November 26, 2007 14:26, Doug Poland wrote: Hello, This morning my 7.0-BETA3 i386 system (Compaq nx7400) reset shortly after starting X11. I didn't think much of it and went to get a cup of coffee while the background fsck took care of the file systems. Unforunately, something's still broke. At first, when I tried to access the /var or /tmp filesystems, I received panics similar to: mode = 0100644, inum = 31127, fs = /tmp panic: ffs_valloc: dup alloc cpuid = 0 Uptime: 9s Physical memory: 3435 MB Dumping 101 MB:Aborting dump due to I/O error. status == 0x4, scsi status == 0x0 ** DUMP FAILED (ERROR 5) ** Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort After doing some googling, it looked like my filesystems weren't really clean after several manual runs of fsck. So I disabled softupdates on /var and /tmp and ran fsck on those file systems again. After mounting them rw, I attempted to hit the filesystem again, this time getting a panic: panic: ffs_clusteralloc: map mismatch cpuid = 1 Uptime: 6m40s Physical memory: 3435 MB Dumping 149 MB:Aborting dump due to I/O error. status == 0x4, scsi status == 0x0 ** DUMP FAILED (ERROR 5) ** Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort Is there a way to identify and fix these errors? I'm thinking a newfs of both /var and /tmp is in order. I don't really care about /tmp, and I've backed up /var using dump(8). My concern is if I restore /var on top of a newfs'd filesystem, I'll restore my broken files and have the same problem again. Just a follow-up... Everytime I run a manual fsck on the problem filesystems, it returns: snip BLK(S) MISSING IN BITMAPS SALVAGE? snip * FILE SYSTEM WAS MODIFIED * So it would appear that fsck is unable to repair damage, is that correct? Well, having stumped all the experts, I decided to reinstall from 7.0-BETA3 CD-ROM. After a few minutes of writing to the disk after newfs, I got more panic: ffs_clusteralloc: map mismatch errors. Since the device I'm writing to is a 3-day old Maxtor OneTouch III external HD, I've decided it must be a hardware failure and am returing the drive. Yes, for whatever reason FreeBSD is unable to reliably perform I/O to the drive (hence the errors dumping). Kris New external harddrive solved the problem quite nicely. -- Regards, Doug ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advanced Routing/Firewall Interface Options for FreeBSD 7
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FreeBSD 7 supports ZFS. From there, NFS and Samba are easy. I've been using Solaris for this, but it's rather archaic in many ways, and the only reason I use it is for the stable ZFS support. Everything else in Solaris - given my needs - is a poor match. People have reported problems with ZFS and NFS and Samba in the past. Test throughly before using (and report problems, if any :) ). signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: 7.0 installation, and Xorg in particular
Freminlins wrote: I used to find FreeBSD easy. What has happened? I have a couple of machines I usually install new versions on, one is headless the other is a desktop machine (which was a 100% reliable 5.4 installation). I boot the headless machine using floppies, then install across the net. But something has happened such that I now need five floppies, and I have to put the boot one in at least twice. This wasn't the case previously. It now reminds me of an OS/2 installation with its floppy shuffling. Then for my desktop machine. sysinstall crashes if I try to install x.org. So I do a pkg_add -r xorg. After about 70 packages I give up. I only used to have about 65 packages in total on my old desktop, now I need more than 70 and I haven't even got x windows up yet. So I go off and have a look and discover that x.org 7.x is modular - http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/unix/bsd/archives/xorg-72-on-freebsd-13661;. This fellow is talking about 300 packages just for x.org! This is nuts. No two ways about it. Whoever decided to do this needs their head (or heads) examined. It used to be so simple. Now it's not. If x.org didn't work for some reason I wouldn't want to track down which of hundreds of packages is missing. Who would? Also, I noticed that python as well as perl was being installed. Is not one scripting language enough for x.org? Why are two needed? I am really frustrated. I don't understand how installing X* this way is supposed to be an improvement. What does it actually give me that I didn't have before? Note my old system was reliable, as is my desktop at work (a 6.2 machine). I was so frustrated that I gave up installing 7 on my home desktop and am now in Windows land. It just seems so pointless. It reminds me of the nastiness of Gnome, which has bazillions of packages, and Gnome needs nearly all of them so why make them separate? I've done enough head banging tonight. Maybe Xfree86 is still available. I haven't looked yet. Frem. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] NetBSD still uses Xfree86 and complete installation including X is 200Mb. All packages of NetBSD are adjusted to use Xfree86. You system install crashed probably because of false assumptions on your part during the installation. 7.0 beta is NOT release. Xorg should be installed after the installation using ports or pkg_add . Ports three should be taken after the installation by portsnap utility. As of number of floppies I really could not comment on it. I did FTP installation that went without a hitch but booted a computer from the 5Mb CD. I really like OpenBSD FTP installation and the fact that you need only one floppy but in total they have five floppies depends on the type of machine you want to boot and for some you will need I think three. I do not know if creation of such specialized boot floppies would be possible for FreeBSD. It seems that younger generation does not even use floppies any more:-) What can I say. Major part of your letter is concerning XOrg which is not really a part of OS. Yes they went modular and made some significant changes. Best, Predrag ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UPgrade FAILS (was: Re: can anybody explain?)
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 08:20:54PM +1100, Norberto Meijome wrote:
On Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:29:15 -0800
Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think it has to do with that autoload {or whatever} is the
first thing that appears after the square box of options.
I only saw the string for a n instant; it may have been overwritten.
I finally caught the *first* part of the boot string; it was
ACPI [followed by some error on loading this.]
Long story short, I was fairly sure that ACPI ... string was
causing my upgrade to 6.3 to fail. I explicitly disabled it
with the ``hint.acpi.0.disabled=1 hint and rebooted. No more
ACPI ... string but the boot *still* hung after printing
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
to the console. In /var/log/messages there was more:
sio0: type 8250 or not responding
I'm upgrading to RELENG_7 and will rebuild, but if anyboody know
what that last line means, and how to resolve, I'd be much obliged!
gary
PS: Odds are that version 7 will hang, too, but dunno until I try.
not sure what you mean by this...but i haven't been following the whole saga,
sorry...
I'm using cvsup7. Not good?
not sure mate, i'm using #5 with no problems, but getting releng_7
*default host=cvsup5.FreeBSD.org
*default base=/var/db
*default prefix=/usr
*default release=cvs tag=RELENG_7
*default delete use-rel-suffix
cheers,
B
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Firefox 2.0.0.9 issues on 7.0-BETA3
Hello, I have a freshly installed 7.0-BETA3 i386 system and am having issues with firefox 2.0.0.9. Upon launching /usr/local/bin/firefox from a command line I am immediately returned a cursor with an error code of 1. % /usr/local/bin/firefox % echo $? 1 I debugged both /usr/local/bin/firefox and /usr/local/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh until I found the debugger option, which I tried: /usr/local/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh -g /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -d gdb # /usr/local/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh -g \ /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -d gdb MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/local/lib/firefox LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib/firefox:/usr/local/lib/firefox/plugins:/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins:/usr/local/lib/browser_linux_plugins:/usr/local/lib/firefox DISPLAY=:0.0 DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib/firefox:/usr/local/lib/firefox LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib/firefox:/usr/local/lib/firefox/components:/usr/local/lib/firefox SHLIB_PATH=/usr/local/lib/firefox:/usr/local/lib/firefox LIBPATH=/usr/local/lib/firefox:/usr/local/lib/firefox ADDON_PATH=/usr/local/lib/firefox MOZ_PROGRAM=/usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox-bin MOZ_TOOLKIT= moz_debug=1 moz_debugger= /usr/bin/gdb /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -x /tmp/mozargs.VoVJBX GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type show copying to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type show warranty for details. This GDB was configured as i386-marcel-freebsd...(no debugging symbols found)... (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -d gdb (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...[New LWP 100191] (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...[New Thread 0x29a01100 (LWP 100191)] (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...[New LWP 100191] Program received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap. [Switching to LWP 100191] Cannot remove breakpoints because program is no longer writable. It might be running in another process. Further execution is probably impossible. 0x2805c3e0 in ?? () from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 I did some googling but nothing interesting turned up. I find it curious that the latest build of Thunderbird works, but linux-firefox fails like it's native sibling. All help is appreciated... -- Regards, Doug ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: remove X11
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 12:33:47PM -0500, Jeff Maxwell wrote: I have X11 installed on a server 6.1. Is there an easy way to remove it all? Do I have to remove each package individually? You could probably make a good start with: # pkg_deinstall -rf xorg-\* check 1st what it will deinstall (without actually deinstalling): # pkg_deinstall -frn xorg-\* Finally, you want to: # echo WITHOUT_X11=yes /etc/make.conf to stop yourself accidentally installing stuff based on X in the future. -- Frank Contact info: http://www.esperance-linux.co.uk/misc/contact.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Network Configuration with Jails.
On Wednesday 28 November 2007 08:12:41 am Philip M. Gollucci wrote: Félix Langelier wrote: Hello, I run a FreeBSD Jailer and I want to have multiple jails in 2 seperate networks. The server has 2 network interfaces and each of them are connected in a different network. Say vlan1 and vlan2. My problem is that all the network traffic is going through the first interface (vlan1). What I need is that a jail in vlan1 can't communicate with a jail in vlan2 (and vice-versa). Is it possible to split the network traffic in the right interfaces and use a diffrent default gateway for each of them ? Here is my /etc/rc.d configuration. defaultrouter=192.168.1.1 static_routes=vlan1 vlan2 route_vlan1=-net 192.168.1.0/24 192.168.1.1 route_vlan2=-net 192.168.2.0/24 192.168.2.1 # vlan1 interface config. ifconfig_bge0=inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig_bge0_alias0=192.168.1.11 netmask 255.255.255.255 # vlan2 interface config. ifconfig_bge1=inet 192.168.2.10 netmask 255.255.255.0 ifconfig_bge1_alias0=inet 192.168.2.11 netmask 255.255.255.255 I tried to remove the default gateway but then the server was unreachable. I am thinking of using pf to resolve my issue. Removing the default gateway will work, but you have to add back _similiar_ routes, you can't just remove it. PF is probably the way to go. In particular using route-to to send traffic originating from 192.168.2.0/24 to 192.168.2.1 I'm not totally sure what your static routes even accomplish. The kernel will establish routes for directly connected networks automatically. So probably some rules of interest # keep jails from talking to each other block in on bge0 from 192.168.2.0/24 to 192.168.1.0/24 block in on bge1 from 192.168.1.0/24 to 192.168.2.0/24 # ignore the default route pass out route-to (bge1 192.168.2.1) from 192.168.2.0/24 to ! 192.168.2.0/24 \ keep state # redundant because of the default route # which actually does what we want pass out route-to (bge0 192.168.1.1) from 192.168.1.0/24 to ! 192.168.1.0/24 \ keep state -- Thanks, Josh Paetzel PGP: 8A48 EF36 5E9F 4EDA 5A8C 11B4 26F9 01F1 27AF AECB signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Firefox 2.0.0.9 issues on 7.0-BETA3
I did some googling but nothing interesting turned up. I find it curious that the latest build of Thunderbird works, but linux-firefox fails like it's native sibling. All help is appreciated... -- Regards, Doug ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] what are the permissions on ~/.mozilla and its contents ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel Compile Error
On Nov 28, 2007 12:17 PM, Philip M. Gollucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Schiz0 wrote: On Nov 28, 2007 8:47 AM, Philip M. Gollucci [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Schiz0 wrote: Hey, I'm running FreeBSD 6.3-PRERELEASE. I recently csuped the source code (src-all) and built world. I then tried to make buildkernel, and it ran for a little while, then gave the following error and stopped: http://schiz0.securityexploits.com/make.buildkernel.out The error is at the bottom - that is the log of the entire buildkernel process. I see no error -- looks like you didnt' copy enough of it. use -DNO_CLEAN to skip all the rm -f stuff at the start when you post the new output. Add these 3 to your kernel config file near the end. Don't use the -DNO_CLEAN when you build this time. That was just to cut down on the output in the log file (or when you intentionally don't want to delete the build from the previous attempt or success) options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores Worked perfectly. Thanks. I took those lines out of the kernel config because I wasn't sure what SYSV-style was (And figured I didn't need it since I didn't know what it was, hehe). Thanks for the help. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox 2.0.0.9 issues on 7.0-BETA3
Doug Poland wrote: Hello, I have a freshly installed 7.0-BETA3 i386 system So have I. and am having issues with firefox 2.0.0.9. FWIW, native firefox-2.0.0.9,1 runs perfectly OK here. -- Tore ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ataidle - causing apache cvs timeouts
I'm running ataidle on my personal server to save electricity. However, every time it has to spin up a drive whatever I'm accessing (apache, cvs, etc) gives an error instead of waiting for the disk. If I then access it again after a couple seconds once the disk is active it works fine. Any idea how to fix this? Relevant parts of dmesg: ad7: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA48 retrying (1 retry left) LBA=640790375 ad7: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA48 retrying (0 retries left) LBA=640790375 ad7: FAILURE - READ_DMA48 timed out LBA=640790375 Thanks, Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox 2.0.0.9 issues on 7.0-BETA3
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 03:58:48PM -0500, Jeremy Gransden wrote: I did some googling but nothing interesting turned up. I find it curious that the latest build of Thunderbird works, but linux-firefox fails like it's native sibling. All help is appreciated... what are the permissions on ~/.mozilla and its contents ~/.mozilla 700 ~/.mozzilla/firefox 700 ~/.mozilla/plugins 755 -- Regards, Doug ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ataidle - causing apache cvs timeouts
Steve Franks wrote: I'm running ataidle on my personal server to save electricity. However, every time it has to spin up a drive whatever I'm accessing (apache, cvs, etc) gives an error instead of waiting for the disk. If I then access it again after a couple seconds once the disk is active it works fine. Any idea how to fix this? Relevant parts of dmesg: ad7: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA48 retrying (1 retry left) LBA=640790375 ad7: TIMEOUT - READ_DMA48 retrying (0 retries left) LBA=640790375 ad7: FAILURE - READ_DMA48 timed out LBA=640790375 Hack the code to increase the timeout or number of retries. Evidently your drive is taking too long to spin up when powered down. Kris ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Advanced Routing/Firewall Interface Options for FreeBSD 7
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 09:08:37PM +0100, Ivan Voras wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FreeBSD 7 supports ZFS. From there, NFS and Samba are easy. I've been using Solaris for this, but it's rather archaic in many ways, and the only reason I use it is for the stable ZFS support. Everything else in Solaris - given my needs - is a poor match. People have reported problems with ZFS and NFS and Samba in the past. Test throughly before using (and report problems, if any :) ). While this is true, recent versions of Samba have addressed the issue. I'm running a ZFS pool with Samba sharing it to my network, and it's working flawlessly. FreeBSD localhost 7.0-BETA1.5 FreeBSD 7.0-BETA1.5 #0: Wed Oct 24 23:17:30 UTC 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64 samba-3.0.26a_1,1 A free SMB and CIFS client and server for UNIX Erik ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: who wrote this
On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 11:26:47PM -0600, icantthinkofone wrote: Oh, who the heck cares. The guy is dead and he's not going to hurt you so get a life people. If you ban Hitler then ban Stalin and Mussolini and let's go back another thousand years and dig up those graves, too. Move on! That's a much better way to put it than mine. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Anonymous: Eat your crow early, while it's young and tender. Don't wait until it's old and tough. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: who wrote this
On Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 10:14:30PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: For example, a famous quote of Hitler's is: I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature. That raises an interesting point: There are quotes that, taken out of context, might be seen as offensive. In many cases, the in context presentation that makes the inoffensive are those that involve attributing them to the monsters who uttered the words in the first place. Let's take two hypothetical examples . . . 1. I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature. - Anonymous 2. I do not see why man should not be just as cruel as nature. - Adolf Hitler Frankly, I find the latter to be more valuable, because it says something about the psychology of a genocidal leader of men. The former might be considered offensive by some, because it's a statement whose implications in and of itself are disturbing when taken as it is presented without context -- as a maxim to live by. I'd rather see example 2 than example 1, personally. If I saw the Hitler-attributed version come up in a fortune, it would be thought-provoking. If I saw the unattributed version (and didn't know Hitler said it), I would think What the hell is this doing here? Fundamentally, you have to be educated to understand it. FreeBSD is first and formost, for the educated computer user. That makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. -- CCD CopyWrite Chad Perrin [ http://ccd.apotheon.org ] Ben Franklin: As we enjoy great Advantages from the Inventions of others we should be glad of an Opportunity to serve others by any Invention of ours, and this we should do freely and generously. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [freebsd-questions] Re: who wrote this
Randomly found this : http://xkcd.com/261/ Tuc ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...WELL, latest adventures of The Gary in the Dell
Guys, And this is to all the wizards on-list: Why does Gnome take minutes to load? Yes, I finally got 6.3-PRERELEASE to boot after learning that Dell has problems with its serial ports (and Unix). I did see a few postings about the increased delay time to bring up the windowing system, but didn't know it would apply to 6.3 In an earlier diagnostic attempt I commented out much of my sysctl.conf and related lines in /etc/rc.conf and /devfs.rules. So is there any way of reinitializing these hint and setting short of rebooting??? Tweaking the BIOS has me rolling again. gary -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ...WELL, latest adventures of The Gary in the Dell
And this is to all the wizards on-list: Why does Gnome take minutes to load? Yes, I finally got 6.3-PRERELEASE to boot after learning that Dell has problems with its serial ports (and Unix). I did see a few postings about the increased delay time to bring up the windowing system, but didn't know it would apply to 6.3 Since I don't run any windowing system on any of my FBSD boxen, I may be way off here, but could this load time be due to DNS timeouts of some sort? Many things hang if they can not resolve names, perhaps this could be part of the issue? Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Firefox 2.0.0.9 issues on 7.0-BETA3
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 02:29:38PM -0600, Doug Poland wrote: Hello, I have a freshly installed 7.0-BETA3 i386 system and am having issues with firefox 2.0.0.9. Upon launching /usr/local/bin/firefox from a command line I am immediately returned a cursor with an error code of 1. % /usr/local/bin/firefox % echo $? 1 I debugged both /usr/local/bin/firefox and /usr/local/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh until I found the debugger option, which I tried: /usr/local/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh -g /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -d gdb # /usr/local/lib/firefox/run-mozilla.sh -g \ /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -d gdb MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/usr/local/lib/firefox LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib/firefox:/usr/local/lib/firefox/plugins:/usr/local/lib/browser_plugins:/usr/local/lib/browser_linux_plugins:/usr/local/lib/firefox DISPLAY=:0.0 DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib/firefox:/usr/local/lib/firefox LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib/firefox:/usr/local/lib/firefox/components:/usr/local/lib/firefox SHLIB_PATH=/usr/local/lib/firefox:/usr/local/lib/firefox LIBPATH=/usr/local/lib/firefox:/usr/local/lib/firefox ADDON_PATH=/usr/local/lib/firefox MOZ_PROGRAM=/usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox-bin MOZ_TOOLKIT= moz_debug=1 moz_debugger= /usr/bin/gdb /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -x /tmp/mozargs.VoVJBX GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD] Copyright 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type show copying to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type show warranty for details. This GDB was configured as i386-marcel-freebsd...(no debugging symbols found)... (gdb) run Starting program: /usr/local/lib/firefox/firefox-bin -d gdb (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...[New LWP 100191] (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...[New Thread 0x29a01100 (LWP 100191)] (no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...[New LWP 100191] Program received signal SIGTRAP, Trace/breakpoint trap. [Switching to LWP 100191] Cannot remove breakpoints because program is no longer writable. It might be running in another process. Further execution is probably impossible. 0x2805c3e0 in ?? () from /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 I did some googling but nothing interesting turned up. I find it curious that the latest build of Thunderbird works, but linux-firefox fails like it's native sibling. All help is appreciated... Thought I'd try installing firefox 2.0.0.10,1 on the whim that it may fix my problem. No joy. BTW, how do I get debugging symbols for firefox so that I may further debug this? -- Regards, Doug ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: K3b
ajtiM wrote: On Sunday 25 November 2007 21:58:03 you wrote: ajtiM wrote: Hi! I am new with FreeBSD. I installed one day ago 7.0 beta3 and I try to learn and setup the system. When I start K3b (KDE) I got a message: No CD/DVD writer found. K3b did not find an optical writing device in your system. Thus, you will not be able to burn CDs or DVDs. However, you can still use other K3b features like audio track extraction or audio transcoding or ISO9660 image creation. I tired as user and as root but resul is the same. BTW: under Linux I didn't have a problem Thanks in advance. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You have not done your homework. Probably the following would be enough [pedja@ /usr/home/Pedja]$ more /boot/loader.conf atapicam_load=YES hw.ata.ata_dma=1 hw.ata.atapi_dma=1 You also need to add the following into your /etc/devfs.conf file # Allow members of the group operator to mount CD-ROMs. perm /dev/acd0 0666 perm /dev/cd00666 # Commonly used by many ports link cd0 cdrom link cd0 dvd link cd0 rdvd link acd0 cdrom link acd0 dvd link acd0 rdvd # Misc other devices permcdrom 0666 permdvd 0666 permrdvd0666 permxpt00666 permpass0 0666 I am not sure if you need HAL as mine is ON on this computer on which K3b works flawlessly. You will have to read handbook and the following is useful http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/. BTW: I really gets annoyed when people say by the way it works in Linux, Windows, Solaris or whatever. What is that suppose to mean? That is nothing wrong with hardware :) I realized that. I hope you saw my apology. I do know however why you can not use it as a user. You have to mount the disk on the file system that belongs to you not the root. So edit your /etc/fstab file as this #These are my options /dev/cd0 /usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660 rw, noauto 0 0 /dev/acd0/usr/home/Pedja/mnt/cdrom cd9660 rw, noauto 0 0 and you should be good too go. That was exactly what I meant by saying that I do not know if you need HAL. You do not need HAL but you need to edit your /etc/fstab. Cheers, Predrag Thank you...I did but as user I couldn't use K3b but as root works. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Secure remote shell
Hi, Part of (un)registerings users on my system consists in connecting to various servers to add the user account to some services: Registering users is done wia a web page, and the web server will remote execute a script on the mail server to add the users in the aliases and run newaliases, remote execute a script to the radius server to add the user in the radius tables and restart radius, etc. Of course all the remote execution should be done as root :( So far, one specific user from the web server can rsh -l root to the various other servers to do what needs to be done. But this is not quite satisfactory. What other solution would you suggest to execute a shell remotely as root, that could be automated in a script (no password required). Best regards, Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Secure remote shell
On Nov 28, 2007 8:28 PM, Olivier Nicole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Part of (un)registerings users on my system consists in connecting to various servers to add the user account to some services: Registering users is done wia a web page, and the web server will remote execute a script on the mail server to add the users in the aliases and run newaliases, remote execute a script to the radius server to add the user in the radius tables and restart radius, etc. Of course all the remote execution should be done as root :( So far, one specific user from the web server can rsh -l root to the various other servers to do what needs to be done. But this is not quite satisfactory. What other solution would you suggest to execute a shell remotely as root, that could be automated in a script (no password required). Best regards, Olivier ssh using key authentication and sudo configured to allow a certain user to run the needed commands and only the needed commands as root. http://www.gratisoft.us/sudo/ http://sial.org/howto/openssh/publickey-auth/ -- The Mafia way is that we pursue larger goals under the guise of personal relationships. Fisheye ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Secure remote shell
On 11:28:24 Nov 29, Olivier Nicole wrote: Hi, Part of (un)registerings users on my system consists in connecting to various servers to add the user account to some services: Registering users is done wia a web page, and the web server will remote execute a script on the mail server to add the users in the aliases and run newaliases, remote execute a script to the radius server to add the user in the radius tables and restart radius, etc. Of course all the remote execution should be done as root :( No. Use sudo(8) And tighten it up. Giving remote users root access should never ever be done. Typically each user should run a suid script or something. So far, one specific user from the web server can rsh -l root to the rsh? Are you living in a cave? :) ssh(8) was released several years ago. rsh is horribly insecure and broken whereas ssh(8) has an excellent security track record. -Girish ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Secure remote shell
What other solution would you suggest to execute a shell remotely as root, that could be automated in a script (no password required). - have information input into browser - have web server save information to server disk in non-executable format - have script (or admin) authenticate/authorize commands to be performed (recommend doing this manually for a while to ensure you capture as many escape type bugs as possible) - have commands via another script scrubbed/cleaned/tested - have cron perform commands at every X minutes Dirty, but it works. Just ensure that your input variables are very clean during the request, and their storage. All this said, I have an environment that may *semi* relate to what you are doing. It appears you are running your mail with sendmail on one box, RADIUS on another, and perhaps your web interface on yet another. Is this correct? Perhaps it's all on the same box... Can you state: - mail server software - RADIUS software - web interface (server) software ...assuming further, the web interface is custom right? How many users do you have? How many support people? Perhaps you could mail me off-list to discuss, as myself, and my support staff just went through this last year, and are just finishing up the details. Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Secure remote shell
ssh using key authentication and sudo configured to allow a certain user to run the needed commands and only the needed commands as root. http://www.gratisoft.us/sudo/ http://sial.org/howto/openssh/publickey-auth/ Yes but in the OP's context, providing this would mean that ANY command supplied via the web interface would be allowed whether SSH or sudo was used to perform the remote execution via the web server. IMHO, there needs to be a distinctive separation as the 'support' persons request comes via the browser. If it is an 'adduser' type request, all aspects (mail, radius etc) need to have their own input-type authentication/authorization check on the input. Although sudo and SSH are part of the solution, providing a web server with full rights on a remote server if they can gain keyless entry is a large mistake. Tunnel via SSH, and escalate via sudo is both a good idea. But I think in the OP's context, there needs to be some intensive checks and bounds in between that make it *harder* for him to achieve his goals than what it could be. I don't think anyone would want the following scenario: - you pass https://url.com?blahblahetc to webserver - webserver, via password-less ssh executes via sudo a command on remote RADIUS/mail to introduce a new user, perhaps in wheel group - owned Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Secure remote shell
On Nov 28, 2007 9:40 PM, Steve Bertrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ssh using key authentication and sudo configured to allow a certain user to run the needed commands and only the needed commands as root. http://www.gratisoft.us/sudo/ http://sial.org/howto/openssh/publickey-auth/ Yes but in the OP's context, providing this would mean that ANY command supplied via the web interface would be allowed whether SSH or sudo was used to perform the remote execution via the web server. IMHO, there needs to be a distinctive separation as the 'support' persons request comes via the browser. If it is an 'adduser' type request, all aspects (mail, radius etc) need to have their own input-type authentication/authorization check on the input. Although sudo and SSH are part of the solution, providing a web server with full rights on a remote server if they can gain keyless entry is a large mistake. Steve, at no point does the original email say we need to execute user input. sudo does not equate to providing full rights. I suggest reading the manpage. check yourself before you wreck yourself. Tunnel via SSH, and escalate via sudo is both a good idea. But I think in the OP's context, there needs to be some intensive checks and bounds in between that make it *harder* for him to achieve his goals than what it could be. I don't think anyone would want the following scenario: - you pass https://url.com?blahblahetc to webserver - webserver, via password-less ssh executes via sudo a command on remote RADIUS/mail to introduce a new user, perhaps in wheel group - owned Steve -- The Mafia way is that we pursue larger goals under the guise of personal relationships. Fisheye ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ...WELL, latest adventures of The Gary in the Dell
On Wed, Nov 28, 2007 at 08:10:45PM -0500, Steve Bertrand wrote: And this is to all the wizards on-list: Why does Gnome take minutes to load? Yes, I finally got 6.3-PRERELEASE to boot after learning that Dell has problems with its serial ports (and Unix). I did see a few postings about the increased delay time to bring up the windowing system, but didn't know it would apply to 6.3 Since I don't run any windowing system on any of my FBSD boxen, I may be way off here, but could this load time be due to DNS timeouts of some sort? Many things hang if they can not resolve names, perhaps this could be part of the issue? Hmm, maybe I should restart my dhcp daemon. thanks for the idea. gary Steve -- Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public Service Unix http://jottings.thought.org http://transfinite.thought.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Secure remote shell
On Thu, November 29, 2007 06:23, Steve Bertrand wrote: What other solution would you suggest to execute a shell remotely as root, that could be automated in a script (no password required). - have information input into browser - have web server save information to server disk in non-executable format - have script (or admin) authenticate/authorize commands to be performed (recommend doing this manually for a while to ensure you capture as many escape type bugs as possible) - have commands via another script scrubbed/cleaned/tested - have cron perform commands at every X minutes I once wrote a script for allowing certain persons to add user accounts on a box: they just had to create a csv file in a certain place on disk with a certain name, something like this: loginname;Full Name;action where action would be: C (for create new user), D (for delete user), M for creating a new pair of ssh keys. A shell script executed from cron every half hour would then pick up that file and do whatever actions specified in that script. In the case of OP that file could be created (and transported through ssh) by the user the web server runs with, while the local root account (if applicable - in case of LDAP that isn't necessary anyway) does its thing... Peter -- http://www.boosten.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Xen howto: inexplicable Kernel image does not exist error
I'm in front of the same trouble, did you find a solution ? M Matt Pounsett a écrit : -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm trying to get FreeBSD running under Xen on a RedHat RHEL5 box. I seem to be stumped really early in the process by something... strange. I don't have a good explanation for it, other than Xen doing something weird, and thought I'd ask if anyone else had seen something similar. All the information I've found googling this error relates to users forgetting to install key packages, which doesn't seem to be related here. Basically, I'm following the directions at http://www.yuanjue.net/xen/howto.html. When I hit step 4, and try to run xm create, xen complains: # xm create -c freebsd_xen_INSTALL Using config file ./freebsd_xen_INSTALL. Error: Kernel image does not exist: /home/mattp/FreeBSD-XENU/freebsd-XENU_INSTALL However, that kernel file does exist: # ls -l /home/mattp/FreeBSD-XENU/freebsd-XENU_INSTALL - -rw-r--r-- 1 mattp users 7379253 Aug 26 2006 /home/mattp/FreeBSD-XENU/freebsd-XENU_INSTALL I'm using the config file suggested by the instructions with only two changes: 1) change the 'kernel' reference to the kernel file listed above 2) change the 'disk' reference to the image file created in step 1 (I also tried without this change) Am I missing something here? Looks to me like either Xen is trying to chroot somewhere before loading the kernel (don't see anything relevant in the config file I downloaded) or something is broken somewhere. Has this been seen before, or does anyone have suggestions about where to check for the error? Matt -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (Darwin) iD8DBQFHHPGpmFeRJ0tjIxERAgC3AKCWWmRyK3PgI0NXH2FZDEUE4ZBeIwCeP0ZI qTEXAYowhmspZCDlN2HMW68= =JSqE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
I am newbie, recently I have installed FreeBSD 6.2-Stable, and manage to configure and display the x window manager (X11) using command startx. and then i run command startkde and I received error message (kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server) However, if i run command kdm, then it prompt for login screen. I am wondering the command startkde is not correct way to call KDE. please advise me. Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Secure remote shell
Although sudo and SSH are part of the solution, providing a web server with full rights on a remote server if they can gain keyless entry is a large mistake. Steve, at no point does the original email say we need to execute user input. sudo does not equate to providing full rights. I suggest reading the manpage. check yourself before you wreck yourself. I apologize, you are correct. Perhaps I was in a different context. I was assuming that data passed via a web browser was in fact data that needed to be executed as the user (web server context). Registering users is done wia a web page, and the web server will remote execute a script on the mail server to add the users in the aliases and run newaliases, remote execute a script to the radius server to add the user in the radius tables and restart radius, etc. Pardon my ignorance, I don't regularly use sudo. However, depending on how the user is being added to the mail and/or RADIUS server, if the web server has root auth via sudo to adduser, does that not allow the web server to create a user within whatever group it wants to? check yourself before you wreck yourself Fair enough. Strong statement, I'll stand by it if necessary :) A legitimate question: If I add user 'www' to 'sudoers' with the ability to run adduser, does that not give user 'www' to put the added user in a group, perhaps wheel? If said commands are passed via 'user' to web browser to web server, run within context of the web server user, and web server user has sudo rights to the remote box, does that not mean that the server is essentially 'executing user input'? Steve ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server
El día Thursday, November 29, 2007 a las 03:19:51PM +0800, williamkow escribió: I am newbie, recently I have installed FreeBSD 6.2-Stable, and manage to configure and display the x window manager (X11) using command startx. and then i run command startkde and I received error message (kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server) However, if i run command kdm, then it prompt for login screen. I am wondering the command startkde is not correct way to call KDE. please advise me. Thank you. Do in your HOME directory and without having X11 up: $ echo exec startkde ~/.xinitrc $ startx matthias -- Matthias Apitz Manager Technical Support - OCLC PICA GmbH e [EMAIL PROTECTED] - w http://www.oclcpica.org/ http://www.UnixArea.de/ b http://gurucubano.blogspot.com/ Don't top-post, read RFC1855 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
