Re: GRUB: Filesystem type unknown (ufs2)
--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Unga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Unga [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GRUB: Filesystem type unknown (ufs2) To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 6:24 PM Hi all I have compiled and installed grub-0.97.tar.gz on FreeBSD 7.0 (i386). It shows the grub cannot recognize ufs2 file systems. grub root (hd1,0, Possible partitions are: Partition num: 0, [BSD sub-partitions immediately follow] BSD Partition num: 'a', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 BSD Partition num: 'b', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 BSD Partition num: 'd', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 BSD Partition num: 'e', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 BSD Partition num: 'f', Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0xa5 All stage1, stage2 and *_stage1_5 are in /boot/grub/. The fstype used for bsdlabel for b is swap and for others its 4.2BSD. Files systems were created as follows: newfs -U /dev/ad2s1a newfs /dev/ad2s1d newfs -U /dev/ad2s1e newfs -U /dev/ad2s1f Ok, found the problem. Its the newfs. The problem is GRUB cannot recognize ufs2 file systems created by newfs. The GRUB can recognize ufs2 file systems created by sysinstall. I have even tried newfs -O 2 -U /dev/ad2s1a, the GRUB still cannot recognize ufs2 file systems. Now the question is, how to properly create a ufs2 file system manually? Is it by newfs? Also appreciate if someone could let me know where does it create ufs2 file systems in sysinstall. Best regards Unga ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: immediate reboot switching window (alt-tab) to google earth
went straight to the reboot. Anyway, if there are other reports, here's mine. I'd like to blame X, since I have yet to observe an X that really felt stable to me, but I suspect the culprit is more likely linux-base-fc4...shame. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that running linux programs makes BSD as unstable as linux. I just well linux emulations probably do have bugs, but not that i think. i started google earth once, but it was damn slow, but no crashes. probably it triggers some X11 bug i think. maybe you use some of there binary only nvidia/whatever modules? Steve google-earth-4.3.7284.3916_2 Explore, Search and Destroy ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: GRUB: Filesystem type unknown (ufs2)
On Thursday 13 November 2008, Unga wrote: --- On Thu, 11/13/08, Pieter de Goeje [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've used GRUB in the past to boot FreeBSD. The GRUB boot directory was located on the FreeBSD root partition, so it can work. I did use the port though. Now the issue is the root partition itself cannot access. Were your partitions ufs2? Which version of GRUB you used? Any possibility to give it a try again? Yes, the root was UFS2. I don't know which version I used at the time. When I get home from work, I'll give it a try. -- Pieter de Goeje ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
New AMD Processor:RM-72
Hi, I have tried installing FreeBSD 7.1-BETA2 on my Laptop with a Relatively new Mobile Processor AMD X2 Turion RM-72 2.1GHZ 1MB L2 Cache I find that the temperature during normal operation is very high 70 degress IDLE When Compiling it hits 90 degress All this is happening even with power_d enabled Anyone else encountered similar issues with solution? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/New-AMD-Processor%3ARM-72-tp20498008p20498008.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New AMD Processor:RM-72
On 11/14/08, weinter.lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have tried installing FreeBSD 7.1-BETA2 on my Laptop with a Relatively new Mobile Processor AMD X2 Turion RM-72 2.1GHZ 1MB L2 Cache I find that the temperature during normal operation is very high 70 degress IDLE When Compiling it hits 90 degress All this is happening even with power_d enabled Anyone else encountered similar issues with solution? Please post output of: % sysctl hw.acpi.thermal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD not stable enough for Xen?
Hello hello. I want this hosting company to offer FreeBSD but they claim it's not yet stable enough for their Xen setup. Is there anything I can do to prove them wrong? Much obliged, Redd Vinylene ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD not stable enough for Xen?
Redd Vinylene wrote: Hello hello. I want this hosting company to offer FreeBSD but they claim it's not yet stable enough for their Xen setup. Is there anything I can do to prove them wrong? No. Xen work is highly experimental even in -CURRENT. It *can* be used, and people have successfully booted FreeBSD under Xen but I don't think anyone is using it in production. If you're interested in FreeBSD-Xen, you can follow this mailing list: http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-xen It's likely that Xen will be good enough to be used in FreeBSD 8. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: New AMD Processor:RM-72
weinter.lim wrote: Hi, I have tried installing FreeBSD 7.1-BETA2 on my Laptop with a Relatively new Mobile Processor AMD X2 Turion RM-72 2.1GHZ 1MB L2 Cache I find that the temperature during normal operation is very high 70 degress IDLE When Compiling it hits 90 degress All this is happening even with power_d enabled Anyone else encountered similar issues with solution? hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10 hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 69.0C (Changes to 90 degrees during compiling) hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 99.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 105.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC1: 2 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC2: 3 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TSP: 40 -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/New-AMD-Processor%3ARM-72-tp20498008p20498733.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New AMD Processor:RM-72
Paul B. Mahol wrote: On 11/14/08, weinter.lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I have tried installing FreeBSD 7.1-BETA2 on my Laptop with a Relatively new Mobile Processor AMD X2 Turion RM-72 2.1GHZ 1MB L2 Cache I find that the temperature during normal operation is very high 70 degress IDLE When Compiling it hits 90 degress All this is happening even with power_d enabled Anyone else encountered similar issues with solution? Please post output of: % sysctl hw.acpi.thermal ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] weinter.lim wrote: Hi, I have tried installing FreeBSD 7.1-BETA2 on my Laptop with a Relatively new Mobile Processor AMD X2 Turion RM-72 2.1GHZ 1MB L2 Cache I find that the temperature during normal operation is very high 70 degress IDLE When Compiling it hits 90 degress All this is happening even with power_d enabled Anyone else encountered similar issues with solution? hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10 hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 69.0C (Changes to 90 degrees during compiling) hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 99.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 105.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC1: 2 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC2: 3 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TSP: 40 -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/New-AMD-Processor%3ARM-72-tp20498008p20498746.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IPsec's use of processors
I would like to know how IPsec makes use of a multi processor machine? I have gateway (FreeBSD 7.0) with four SAs configured. When testing throughput through the configured SAs, I see (with systat) that only one cpu works really hard (+-10% idle min), two others work a bit (+-70% idle min) and the fourth CPU does pretty much nothing. Is this normal, shouldn't at least the two cpus work hard because of the high throughput? I hope i am on the right list. Riaan ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FreeBSD not stable enough for Xen environments?
Hello. I want this hosting company to offer FreeBSD but they claim it's not yet stable enough for their Xen setup. Is there anything I can do to prove them wrong? Much obliged y'all. Peace. -- http://www.home.no/reddvinylene ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re changing from vista
Dear sirs please can you help me i am totally confused i want to change from windows vista but i cannot understand which system to use i am not sure if freebsd will work with my hardware and software kind regards Peter ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
host based authetication with OpenLDAP and FreeBSD
Hello, I have a OT question and maybe some of the FreeBSD server admins here can help me out. Our setup has several Linux and FreeBSD boxes, users are kept in OpenLDAP without any further service like Kerberos V etc. The situation(s): We have locally and personally administered workstations where the local admin should decide whether a specific user can log in or not while these machines are still bound to LDAP. Also the centralized LDAP admin should be able to decide which users or group of users can login to which group of hosts, this is the case with our student's workstations which should be accessible from every user belonging to the scientific staff and students, too, but students must not login to workstations of the science staff. Having nss_ldap and pam_ldap installed on every single FreeBSD server/box which is capable of being accessed I found in etc/ldap.conf the tags 'pam_filter' and 'pam_check_host_attr'. Setting latter to 'yes' implies having the 'host' attribute in each user's object located in OpenLDAP's DIT for the specific domain. But objectClass=account seems to conflict with objectClass=organizationalPeople which is a must in our configuration, so the host attribute is not of any further investigation. I tried to put users like 'students' in a special object of objectClass=groupOfNames and put that object along with the ordinary users in ou=users object and tried to use pam_filter ((objecClass=posixAccount)(objectClass=groupOfNames) ...) to find ANDed matches of a user existing in the DIT AND exist in a special groupOfNames-Object for a special set of hosts and name this object like this dn: cn=logonGrpCASSINI,ou=users,dc=foo cn: logonGrpCASSINI objectClass: groupOfNames objectClass: top member: uid=... member: uid=... Well, I never had success with pam_filter due to the lack of knowledge how to filter and how ldap is looking up attributes, but far more important is: does this work in principle? The big question at this moment is, whether it is possible to 'group' login authentications/permissions via LDAP without the host attribute and simply perform a separation via the standard tools nss_ldap/pam_ldap/OpenLDAP as given. Are there other techniques usabel with FreeBSD and OpenLDAP? Well, I'm a little bit desperate at the moment, if someone has hints of further readings in that subject, any hint or tip is welcome. Regards, Oliver ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New AMD Processor:RM-72
On 11/14/08, weinter.lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: weinter.lim wrote: Hi, I have tried installing FreeBSD 7.1-BETA2 on my Laptop with a Relatively new Mobile Processor AMD X2 Turion RM-72 2.1GHZ 1MB L2 Cache I find that the temperature during normal operation is very high 70 degress IDLE When Compiling it hits 90 degress All this is happening even with power_d enabled Anyone else encountered similar issues with solution? hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10 hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 69.0C (Changes to 90 degrees during compiling) hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1 Does this one ever change? hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 99.0C This one is too much high, it make more sense if it is ~60.0C If acpi is disabled, does system also get too hot? Is fan working/operational? hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 105.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 This one looks bogus. hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC1: 2 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC2: 3 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TSP: 40 After executing: # hw.acpi.thermal.user_override=1 Try to modify hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.* values to something more usefull. Also could you post output of: % sysctl dev.cpu ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New AMD Processor:RM-72
Paul B. Mahol wrote: On 11/14/08, weinter.lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: weinter.lim wrote: Hi, I have tried installing FreeBSD 7.1-BETA2 on my Laptop with a Relatively new Mobile Processor AMD X2 Turion RM-72 2.1GHZ 1MB L2 Cache I find that the temperature during normal operation is very high 70 degress IDLE When Compiling it hits 90 degress All this is happening even with power_d enabled Anyone else encountered similar issues with solution? hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10 hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 69.0C (Changes to 90 degrees during compiling) hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1 Does this one ever change? hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 99.0C This one is too much high, it make more sense if it is ~60.0C If acpi is disabled, does system also get too hot? Yes it does Is fan working/operational? Yes it is working I don't think Acer Laptops enables fan control to users hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 105.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 This one looks bogus. hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC1: 2 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC2: 3 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TSP: 40 After executing: # hw.acpi.thermal.user_override=1 Try to modify hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.* values to something more usefull. I changed hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV:60.0C But the Also could you post output of: % sysctl dev.cpu dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU0 dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% dev.cpu.1.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.1.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.1.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU1 dev.cpu.1.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.1.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% Also i just noticed: starting power_d power_d : look up freq not found (or something like that) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/New-AMD-Processor%3ARM-72-tp20498008p20501129.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: re changing from vista
You have to be more specific, if you need actual help if you are not sure that FreeBSD will work with your hardware, you may try it and see what happens For the software part: FreeBSD has a large collection of software often refered to as ports.But again you have to be more specific, tell the list what you want to do... and people will help you -nikos ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
inet hosts question
Hi all; I have a quick question, I am trying to block a range of ip's for the sake of example they are 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 For the life of me I can't remember how to do that. I thought I could do it by using the /class ie /32 for class c but i can't remember what the class delegation is for that size of pool, I think it is a class B. All help would be appreciated. Cheers, Gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: inet hosts question
Gary Hartl wrote: Hi all; I have a quick question, I am trying to block a range of ip's for the sake of example they are 192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255 For the life of me I can't remember how to do that. What mechanism? null route, ipfw, ipf or pf I thought I could do it by using the /class ie /32 for class c but i can't remember what the class delegation is for that size of pool, I think it is a class B. 192.168.0.0/16 for your example. and yes this is a class B (not all /16s are though.) the /x notation is called CIDR (classless interdomain routing.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classless_Inter-Domain_Routing Vince All help would be appreciated. Cheers, Gary ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New AMD Processor:RM-72
On 11/14/08, weinter.lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul B. Mahol wrote: On 11/14/08, weinter.lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: weinter.lim wrote: Hi, I have tried installing FreeBSD 7.1-BETA2 on my Laptop with a Relatively new Mobile Processor AMD X2 Turion RM-72 2.1GHZ 1MB L2 Cache I find that the temperature during normal operation is very high 70 degress IDLE When Compiling it hits 90 degress All this is happening even with power_d enabled Anyone else encountered similar issues with solution? hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10 hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 69.0C (Changes to 90 degrees during compiling) hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: -1 Does this one ever change? hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 99.0C This one is too much high, it make more sense if it is ~60.0C If acpi is disabled, does system also get too hot? Yes it does Is fan working/operational? Yes it is working How fast? I don't think Acer Laptops enables fan control to users hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 105.0C hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 This one looks bogus. hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC1: 2 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TC2: 3 hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._TSP: 40 After executing: # hw.acpi.thermal.user_override=1 Try to modify hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.* values to something more usefull. I changed hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV:60.0C But the Also could you post output of: % sysctl dev.cpu dev.cpu.0.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.0.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.0.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU0 dev.cpu.0.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.0.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.0.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.0.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.0.cx_usage: 100.00% dev.cpu.1.%desc: ACPI CPU dev.cpu.1.%driver: cpu dev.cpu.1.%location: handle=\_PR_.CPU1 dev.cpu.1.%pnpinfo: _HID=none _UID=0 dev.cpu.1.%parent: acpi0 dev.cpu.1.cx_supported: C1/0 dev.cpu.1.cx_lowest: C1 dev.cpu.1.cx_usage: 100.00% Also i just noticed: starting power_d power_d : look up freq not found (or something like that) Try: # kldload cpufreq and restart powerd: # pkill powerd powerd -a adp Even if this one works it is only workaround. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New AMD Processor:RM-72
Paul B. Mahol wrote: On 11/14/08, weinter.lim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try: # kldload cpufreq and restart powerd: # pkill powerd powerd -a adp Even if this one works it is only workaround. It returns the following powerd:lookup freq :No Such file or directory And returns an error ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/New-AMD-Processor%3ARM-72-tp20498008p20503860.html Sent from the freebsd-questions mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD not stable enough for Xen environments?
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 4:11 PM, Outback Dingo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: depends on how they do their installs, i know of a couple hosting companies doing it already On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 5:42 PM, Redd Vinylene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello. I want this hosting company to offer FreeBSD but they claim it's not yet stable enough for their Xen setup. Is there anything I can do to prove them wrong? Much obliged y'all. Peace. -- http://www.home.no/reddvinylene Hey! Which ones? -- http://www.home.no/reddvinylene ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Missing Driver and Wireless Not detected
I am installing FreeBSD 7.1 Beta 2 on my laptop model Acer Aspire 4530 1) Atheros AR5B91 is not detected Does anyone know how to get the drivers or patch it [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:0:0:class=0x05 card=0x014a1025 chip=0x075410de rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' class = memory subclass = RAM [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:1:0:class=0x060100 card=0x014a1025 chip=0x075e10de rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' class = bridge subclass = PCI-ISA [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:1:1:class=0x0c0500 card=0x014a1025 chip=0x075210de rev=0xa1 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' class = serial bus subclass = SMBus [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:1:3:class=0x0b4000 card=0x014a1025 chip=0x075310de rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' class = processor [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:1:4:class=0x05 card=0x014a1025 chip=0x056810de rev=0xa1 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' class = memory subclass = RAM [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:2:0:class=0x0c0310 card=0x014a1025 chip=0x077b10de rev=0xa1 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' class = serial bus subclass = USB [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:2:1:class=0x0c0320 card=0x014a1025 chip=0x077c10de rev=0xa1 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' class = serial bus subclass = USB [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:4:0:class=0x0c0310 card=0x014a1025 chip=0x077d10de rev=0xa1 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' class = serial bus subclass = USB [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:4:1:class=0x0c0320 card=0x014a1025 chip=0x077e10de rev=0xa1 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' class = serial bus subclass = USB [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:7:0:class=0x040300 card=0x014a1025 chip=0x077410de rev=0xa1 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' class = multimedia [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:8:0:class=0x060401 card=0x014a1025 chip=0x075a10de rev=0xa1 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:9:0:class=0x010601 card=0x014a1025 chip=0x0ad510de rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' class = mass storage [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:11:0: class=0x060400 card=0x10de chip=0x056910de rev=0xa1 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:19:0: class=0x060400 card=0x10de chip=0x077a10de rev=0xa1 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:20:0: class=0x060400 card=0x10de chip=0x077a10de rev=0xa1 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:21:0: class=0x060400 card=0x10de chip=0x077a10de rev=0xa1 hdr=0x01 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' class = bridge subclass = PCI-PCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:24:0: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x13001022 rev=0x40 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices (AMD)' device = '(Family 11h) Athlon 64/Opteron/Sempron HyperTransport Technology Configuration' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:24:1: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x13011022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices (AMD)' device = '(Family 11h) Athlon 64/Opteron/Sempron Address Map' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:24:2: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x13021022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices (AMD)' device = '(Family 11h) Athlon 64/Opteron/Sempron DRAM Controller' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:24:3: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x13031022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices (AMD)' device = '(Family 11h) Athlon 64/Opteron/Sempron Miscellaneous Control' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]:0:24:4: class=0x06 card=0x chip=0x13041022 rev=0x00 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Advanced Micro Devices (AMD)' device = '(Family 11h) Athlon 64/Opteron/Sempron Link Control' class = bridge subclass = HOST-PCI [EMAIL PROTECTED]:2:0:0:class=0x03 card=0x014a1025 chip=0x084410de rev=0xa2 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Nvidia Corp' class = display subclass = VGA [EMAIL PROTECTED]:8:0:0:class=0x02 card=0x014a1025 chip=0x168414e4 rev=0x10 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' class = network subclass = ethernet [EMAIL PROTECTED]:11:0:0: class=0x028000 card=0x03031a32 chip=0x002a168c rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Atheros Communications Inc.' class = network -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Missing-Driver-and-Wireless-Not-detected-tp20503940p20503940.html Sent from the
Re: FreeBSD not stable enough for Xen environments?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On November 14, 2008 11:32:34 am Redd Vinylene wrote: Hey! Which ones? http://www.rootbsd.net I have been a happy customer of their xen system for almost 1 year. If the company you are petitioning is unco-operative, then jump :) Thomas - -- Thomas Abthorpe | FreeBSD Committer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.freebsd.org/~tabthorpe -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkdqcgACgkQ5Gm/jNBp8qABKwCfVLlfYBF0CTMpiDO7x2OdZTuX wR8AnRw1kkZyv81PatSCm1HkAXp90YqV =zDqa -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: inet hosts question
Vincent Hoffman wrote: Gary Hartl wrote: I thought I could do it by using the /class ie /32 for class c but i can't remember what the class delegation is for that size of pool, I think it is a class B. 192.168.0.0/16 for your example. and yes this is a class B (not all /16s are though.) the /x notation is called CIDR (classless interdomain routing.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classless_Inter-Domain_Routing Class C surely? 192.168.0.0/16 is the RFC1918 Class C reserved range of 256 /24 networks. Yes, Class B networks were /16s, but the A, B, C... classification is derived from the number of leading 1's in the binary representation of the first octet of the address, not the netmask. Thus Binary: Decimal:Class: Used for: - -- 0111 (0 - 127) Class A /8 Networks 1000 -- 1011 (128 - 191) Class B /16 Networks 1100 -- 1101 (192 - 223) Class C /24 Networks 1110 -- 1110 (224 - 239) Class D Multicast 0111 -- (240 - 255) Class E Reserved, experimental Hence the first /half/ of the address space was reserved for class A network allocations (16777214 hosts per net) and half of the rest was reserved for class B allocations (65534 hosts per net). Some large Universities probably could justify a Class B allocation, but I don't think any single institution or body has ever put enough machines onto the Internet to justify having a whole Class A network to themselves according to modern criterea. Needless to say, this was incredibly wasteful scheme in terms of address space coverage. As the whole 'network class' thing was an early attempt to just shave a few bytes of RAM in internet routers by not having to store explicit netmasks -- an economy that was rapidly made obsolete by the falling cost and increasing capacity of hardware -- class based allocation is now completely obsolete and we live in a fully CIDR world. Except that is, for the 'Class D' and 'Class E' (Multicast and Experimental) ranges which still exist. It's also why the loopback interface is given a /8 netmask -- 127.0.0.1 is a Class A address by this scheme. Cheers, Matthew -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: inet hosts question
Matthew Seaman wrote: Vincent Hoffman wrote: Gary Hartl wrote: I thought I could do it by using the /class ie /32 for class c but i can't remember what the class delegation is for that size of pool, I think it is a class B. 192.168.0.0/16 for your example. and yes this is a class B (not all /16s are though.) the /x notation is called CIDR (classless interdomain routing.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classless_Inter-Domain_Routing Class C surely? 192.168.0.0/16 is the RFC1918 Class C reserved range of 256 /24 networks. Doh yes indeed. no idea why i said B. not the stupidest thing i've said today either ;) Vince Yes, Class B networks were /16s, but the A, B, C... classification is derived from the number of leading 1's in the binary representation of the first octet of the address, not the netmask. Thus Binary: Decimal:Class: Used for: - -- 0111 (0 - 127) Class A /8 Networks 1000 -- 1011 (128 - 191) Class B /16 Networks 1100 -- 1101 (192 - 223) Class C /24 Networks 1110 -- 1110 (224 - 239) Class D Multicast 0111 -- (240 - 255) Class E Reserved, experimental Hence the first /half/ of the address space was reserved for class A network allocations (16777214 hosts per net) and half of the rest was reserved for class B allocations (65534 hosts per net). Some large Universities probably could justify a Class B allocation, but I don't think any single institution or body has ever put enough machines onto the Internet to justify having a whole Class A network to themselves according to modern criterea. Needless to say, this was incredibly wasteful scheme in terms of address space coverage. As the whole 'network class' thing was an early attempt to just shave a few bytes of RAM in internet routers by not having to store explicit netmasks -- an economy that was rapidly made obsolete by the falling cost and increasing capacity of hardware -- class based allocation is now completely obsolete and we live in a fully CIDR world. Except that is, for the 'Class D' and 'Class E' (Multicast and Experimental) ranges which still exist. It's also why the loopback interface is given a /8 netmask -- 127.0.0.1 is a Class A address by this scheme. Cheers, Matthew ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD not stable enough for Xen environments?
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Thomas Abthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On November 14, 2008 11:32:34 am Redd Vinylene wrote: Hey! Which ones? http://www.rootbsd.net I have been a happy customer of their xen system for almost 1 year. If the company you are petitioning is unco-operative, then jump :) Thomas I've been with them for a few months. The only issue to keep in mind is clock drift. On my VM it was very bad - a few minutes over a 24-hour period. You have to use NTPd to keep the clock in sync. The problem is that since ntpd doesn't have access to hardware, it can only reset your kernel clock, keeping it somewhat accurate. The error will still be plus or minus a few seconds. I submitted a support ticket for this issue and that was the only solution we could come up with. I don't have any experience with Xen, so I'm not sure if there is something more that can be done on the host. - Max ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
upgrade from 6.3 to 7.0 problems
Hello, I have a botched upgrade from 6.3-release to 7.0-release on my hands. The 'make buildworld', 'make buildkernel' and 'make installkernel' went fine. 'Make installworld' did not - I think I forgot to drop into single-user mode but did not keep good notes. uname -a: FreeBSD server.shiner.ca 7.0-RELEASE-p5 FreeBSD 7.0-RELEASE-p5 #0: Tue Oct 14 10:16:32 CDT 2008 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC i386 Here is a hint of the problem (there is a bad duplex to clean up , which is my next task): server# gmirror remove gm0 ad3 Userland and kernel parts are out of sync. I cannot install the world in single-user mode: # cd /usr/src # env -i make installworld mkdir -p /tmp/install.9f0tXCFc for prog in [ awk cap_mkdb cat chflags chmod chown date echo egrep find grep install-info ln lockf make mkdir mtree mv pwd_mkdb rm sed sh sysctl test true uname wc zic; do cp `which $prog` /tmp/install.9f0tXCFc; done cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj MACHINE_ARCH=i386 MACHINE=i386 CPUTYPE= GROFF_BIN_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin GROFF_FONT_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/share/groff_font GROFF_TMAC_PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/share/tmac PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/games:/tmp/install.9f0tXCFc make -f Makefile.inc1 reinstall -- Making hierarchy -- [snipped, no errors] -- Installing everything -- cd /usr/src; make -f Makefile.inc1 install === share/info (install) === lib (install) === lib/csu/i386-elf (install) /usr/local/libexec/ccache/world-cc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/../common -I/usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf/../../libc/include -Wsystem-headers -Wall -Wno-format-y2k -W -Wno-unused-parameter -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Wreturn-type -Wcast-qual -Wwrite-strings -Wswitch -Wshadow -Wcast-align -Wunused-parameter -Wchar-subscripts -Winline -Wnested-externs -Wredundant-decls -Wno-pointer-sign -c crt1.c *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib/csu/i386-elf. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 I tried to rebuild the world from scratch by following these instructions from handbook section 24.4: chflags –R noschg /usr/obj/usr rm –rf /usr/obj/usr cd /usr/src make cleandir make cleandir cd /usr/src/usr.sbin/mergemaster ./mergemaster.sh –p cd /usr/obj chflags –R noschg * rm –rf * cd /usr/src env –i make buildworld env –i make -DALWAYS_CHECK_MAKE buildkernel env –i make -DALWAYS_CHECK_MAKE installkernel reboot in single-user fsck –p mount –u / mount –a –t ufs swapon –a adjkerntz –i cd /usr/src env –i make installworld mergemaster reboot This is the result: everything ok up to this step server#env -i make buildworld -- World build started on Tue Oct 14 11:42:00 CDT 2008 -- -- Rebuilding the temporary build tree -- [snipped, no errors] -- stage 1.1: legacy release compatibility shims -- cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp INSTALL=sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin WORLDTMP=/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp MAKEFLAGS=-m /usr/src/tools/build/mk -m /usr/src/share/mk make -f Makefile.inc1 DESTDIR= BOOTSTRAPPING=602000 -DWITHOUT_HTML -DWITHOUT_INFO -DNO_LINT -DWITHOUT_MAN -DWITHOUT_NLS -DNO_PIC -DWITHOUT_PROFILE -DNO_SHARED -DNO_CPU_CFLAGS -DNO_WARNS legacy === tools/build (obj,includes,depend,all,install) /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/src/tools/build created for /usr/src/tools/build cd /usr/src/tools/build; make buildincludes; make installincludes rm -f .depend CC='/usr/local/libexec/ccache/world-cc' mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/legacy/usr/include /usr/src/tools/build/dummy.c mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/tools/build. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. Blech. I've floundered about without success. How can I clean up this mess? All comments and thoughts welcome. I have not tried a binary upgrade. Will re-install but as a last option. Many thanks, Cam
php5 Only IE Users can View Pages.
I inherited a mrtg application thatnow is running on a FreeBSD6.3 system. Clients report that one can see the php pages when using Internet Explorer but not other browsers that should display the pages. Those customers see raw code. Any suggestion as to what I should be looking for? One of the browsers for sure that isn't working is firefox. Many thanks. Martin McCormick ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: inet hosts question
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008, Matthew Seaman wrote: Vincent Hoffman wrote: Gary Hartl wrote: I thought I could do it by using the /class ie /32 for class c but i can't remember what the class delegation is for that size of pool, I think it is a class B. 192.168.0.0/16 for your example. and yes this is a class B (not all /16s are though.) the /x notation is called CIDR (classless interdomain routing.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classless_Inter-Domain_Routing Class C surely? 192.168.0.0/16 is the RFC1918 Class C reserved range of 256 /24 networks. Yes, Class B networks were /16s, but the A, B, C... classification is derived from the number of leading 1's in the binary representation of the first octet of the address, not the netmask. Thus Binary: Decimal:Class: Used for: - -- 0111 (0 - 127) Class A /8 Networks 1000 -- 1011 (128 - 191) Class B /16 Networks 1100 -- 1101 (192 - 223) Class C /24 Networks 1110 -- 1110 (224 - 239) Class D Multicast 0111 -- (240 - 255) Class E Reserved, experimental As a suggestion to the OP, installing the ipcalc port might help make things more understandable, or otherwise facilitate learning[1] about networking generally. The output is optionally coloured, so the first three bits of the Network address, for example, would appear in red to serve as a reminder that an address beginning with 110 does indeed define it as a Class C address. % ipcalc 192.168.0.0 Address: 192.168.0.0 1100.10101000.. Netmask: 255.255.255.0 = 24 ... Wildcard: 0.0.0.255... = Network: 192.168.0.0/24 1100.10101000.. HostMin: 192.168.0.1 1100.10101000.. 0001 HostMax: 192.168.0.2541100.10101000.. 1110 Broadcast: 192.168.0.2551100.10101000.. Hosts/Net: 254 Class C, Private Internet --- 1. Handy utilities in conjunction with a requisite amount of laziness may be considered an adequate substitute. -- George ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FreeBSD not stable enough for Xen environments?
i was going to recommend the same rootbsd.net seems to have their act together On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Thomas Abthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On November 14, 2008 11:32:34 am Redd Vinylene wrote: Hey! Which ones? http://www.rootbsd.net I have been a happy customer of their xen system for almost 1 year. If the company you are petitioning is unco-operative, then jump :) Thomas - -- Thomas Abthorpe | FreeBSD Committer [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://people.freebsd.org/~tabthorpehttp://people.freebsd.org/%7Etabthorpe -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkkdqcgACgkQ5Gm/jNBp8qABKwCfVLlfYBF0CTMpiDO7x2OdZTuX wR8AnRw1kkZyv81PatSCm1HkAXp90YqV =zDqa -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: root /etc/csh
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 02:14:07PM -0500, Jerry wrote: I usually just use: #!/usr/bin/env bash It seems to work on both Linux and FBSD. That does work -- as long as you have bash installed. How portable do you want your script to be? -- Chad Perrin [ content licensed PDL: http://pdl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Sterling Camden: The Church doesn't want people calling for inquisitions. pgp4YFWISV7og.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: re changing from vista
please can you help me i am totally confused i want to change from windows vista but i cannot understand which system to use maybe windows XP? i am not sure if freebsd will work with my hardware and software simply check it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: re changing from vista
Wojciech Puchar wrote: please can you help me i am totally confused i want to change from windows vista but i cannot understand which system to use maybe windows XP? i am not sure if freebsd will work with my hardware and software simply check it. unless you think this may be a troll, your comments seem a great way to chase away a potential convert to FreeBSD. -- Jim Pazarena [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: (no subject)
Perhaps you should try the linux distros first to get a bit of a feel of *nix variants? FreeBSD can be daunting to the first time user, but is one hell of a production system once you know how to handle it properly. Several people in this thread have made this recommendation... I disagree with it. #1. I don't think FreeBSD has a steeper learning curve than Linux... I'd argue the opposite, since with Linux you have the confusion of different distros doing things in different ways. That was one of the main beefs I had with Linux. Every Linux book is filled with statements like if you are using debian, do this; if redhat, do this; if etc., etc. And I've never met a Linux guy who stuck with his first distro... the grass is always greener. #2. If your goal is to use FreeBSD, why learn on Linux? Depending on the distro you choose, you may have to unlearn a whole bunch of stuff to use FreeBSD. Sorry... I've been burned by Windows and confused by Linux. As a true convert, I must say: start with the best. -- John Off topic and none of my business: - As a business person, I would also question the idea of trying to become an expert systems administrator, and an expert website builder, and an expert marketer/salesperson/product manager, all at the same time. These are all full-time jobs and no one has the time to do them all. You might want to think about focusing on the product/marketing/sales side (surely enough for one person!), and delegating all the technical bits to other people or companies. That way, you won't spend the next year or two spinning your wheels learning something that you could get for free or buy relatively inexpensively from a real expert. Building and operating a website is the easy part of building an online business. Don't underestimate the difficulty or time and money required for the business side, particularly marketing. You should reserve at least 50% of your cash for marketing, in my humble (but experienced) opinion. %80, if your cost of inventory will be low (writing your own how-to guides, for instance.) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
make doesn't know how to make KERNCONF
Hello, i have a problem compiling a custom kernel on a AMD 850 MHZ Processor, however on the last stage it fails with the following message: make doesn't know how to make KERNCONF the command i run is: cd /usr/src make buildkernel KERNCONF=MIO where MIO is my kernel configuration file, living at /usr/src/sys/i386/conf why it is failing with that error?? Regards, Gerardo Paredes ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: root /etc/csh
From: Chad Perrin [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 02:14:07PM -0500, Jerry wrote: I usually just use: #!/usr/bin/env bash It seems to work on both Linux and FBSD. That does work -- as long as you have bash installed. How portable do you want your script to be? The point is that I would want it to work seamlessly between different flavors of *nix and FBSD. Since there seems to be a lack of consistency as to where 'Bash' is installed on different OSs, I find that using the notation I described works best and seems to improve the portability of the scripts. Since most of the scripts that I write are 'Bash' specific anyway, the fact that it would not work if Bash was not installed is of little importance. By the way, this also works with Perl as you no doubt know. I cannot count how many times I have installed a Perl script and then had to modify the 'shebang' in order to get it to work in FBSD. I know that I could probably make some symbolic links or whatever; however, I feel that, that is the wrong way to get things to work properly. Just my 2¢. -- Jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: re changing from vista
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:19:34PM -0800, Jim Pazarena wrote: Wojciech Puchar wrote: please can you help me i am totally confused i want to change from windows vista but i cannot understand which system to use maybe windows XP? i am not sure if freebsd will work with my hardware and software simply check it. unless you think this may be a troll, your comments seem a great way to chase away a potential convert to FreeBSD. Yes, curt answers are generally not helpful to newbies. They might occasionally (rarely) be relevant for experienced userd but are not welcome in circumstances like this. The reply is suggesting the Original Poster (OP) just try out FreeBSD and see if it works for him. Really, that is a good idea. But there is help available before that in the FreeBSD Handbook and the FAQ and some online publications available for free around the net. So, go to the FreeBSD web page. Click on the 'Learn More' and 'New to FreeBSD?' links about 1/3 the way down the page and read what is there and follow some of the more interesting links. Then click on 'Documentation' and get a little familiar with that. By then, you should at least have some idea of what FreeBSD is all about. Then you can ask more specific questions or more importantly, downlod the most recent version (7.1 by then) and install it, preferably on a fresh disk, and play around. You can't hurt anything that can't be fixed by just trashing it all and starting over. FreeBSD is very different from Microsloth stuff. Most especially it has a completely different attitude toward the way to develop, install, administer and use an Operating System. There is much less GUI stuff and more learning about how the system actually works -- but along with that there is much more control over the system and much more freedom to make it do what you really want rather than what some marketing suit thinks you should want to do with it. It is really all layed out wide open for you to dig in and do what you want. But, because of that, you have to take some responsibility to learn the how and what and why of it. So, have fun, jerry -- Jim Pazarena [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: root /etc/csh
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:49:35 -0800 (PST), GESBBB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The point is that I would want it to work seamlessly between different flavors of *nix and FBSD. Since there seems to be a lack of consistency as to where 'Bash' is installed on different OSs, I find that using the notation I described works best and seems to improve the portability of the scripts. Since most of the scripts that I write are 'Bash' specific anyway, the fact that it would not work if Bash was not installed is of little importance. I'm not sure if you can assume /usr/bin/env exactly in this position on every UNIX system. In order to gain maximum portability, keep things simple and try to use sh as scripting shell. If that's not possible, you could add a check (using which) for bash's availability, outputting to stderr if bash is not present, just like a kind of wrapper script that calls your bash specific script. Maybe that's not very elegant, but it seems to be a good solution. By the way, this also works with Perl as you no doubt know. I cannot count how many times I have installed a Perl script and then had to modify the 'shebang' in order to get it to work in FBSD. I know that I could probably make some symbolic links or whatever; however, I feel that, that is the wrong way to get things to work properly. That's correct. Adding symlinks to structures controlled by the package management system or the OS itself can lead into problems. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: re changing from vista
peter wrote: Dear sirs please can you help me i am totally confused i want to change from windows vista but i cannot understand which system to use i am not sure if freebsd will work with my hardware and software FreeBSD (or any Unix/Linux for that matter) is very different to Windows, and it can be a daunting task to get up to speed with it. FreeBSD in my humble opinion is the best-of-breed Unix out there for server-class applications. Which is cool if you're one of those hairy Unix types that can wrangle the command line, and configure a dozen instances of Apache before breakfast, but maybe not if you are an ordinary mortal that just wants to surf the web, listen to a few tunes, send e-mail, chat on IRC, maybe edit the odd document. While the properties of FreeBSD that make it an excellent Server OS also make it an excellent foundation for a Desktop OS, it doesn't come with the layer of middle-ware that smooths over the user experience[*]. Of course, such software is readily available, but -- catch 22 -- you don't have the sort of Window/Icons/MousePointer environment immediately available to let you easily install the desired WIMP environment. I suggest going to http://www.pcbsd.org/ and grabbing an ISO of PC-BSD. This is an integrated user environment based on FreeBSD, but with much more the sort of graphical interface you'ld be used to as a Windows user. It also has quantities of useful help and advice for people wanting to make that first step away from Windows, plus help with working out if all of your hardware is supported under the OS. Windows software will not in general work under Free- or PC-BSD. There are emulation environments that you can install, and these are sufficient to run a lot of software including a number of popular games, but there is no guarantee that any particular application will work. There are Open Source alternatives to the majority of popular Windows Apps (Firefox instead of IE, Thunderbird instead of OutLook, OpenOffice instead of Word+Excel+PowerPoint+etc., Gimp instead of Photoshop, ...) but these are independently developed applications with their own concepts of how things should be done, not slavish copies of the Windows equivalents. The differences can be frustrating at first, but persistence will pay dividends. Cheers, Matthew [*] Yes, all you pedants out there: the software is on the FreeBSD installation media and you can install it at the same time as you install the OS. True. The point is, however, that it won't 'just work' without at least a bit of configuration involving doing some command-line stuff. Plus you have to know /which/ of all those software packages it is you actually want to install -- there's actually two major contenders (KDE, Gnome) and any number of minor contenders to choose from, and any number of choices and optional bits to decide on -- fine if you're familiar with all that, but still a real hurdle for the uninitiated. -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate Kent, CT11 9PW signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: re changing from vista
On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 11:58 +0100, peter wrote: Dear sirs please can you help me i am totally confused i want to change from windows vista but i cannot understand which system to use i am not sure if freebsd will work with my hardware and software kind regards Peter Welcome to the free world Peter! FreeBSD is a very powerful and stable system, but that said it is also very hands on - the opposite extreme of vista which is all hands off. This means that you will have a very steep learning curve. This list is /very/ helpful, others may not be so friendly or helpful. This is great for newbies who need some real help in getting to know their system and fixing problems, but there are times when even this is not enough if you don't have enough experience with the system. My advice is this: get used to the *nix (linux, unix and other derivatives) systems and how they do things, and the best way to do this is to use linux which is like a halfway house for windows users. The software available for all systems is HUGE. And all this software will usually run on both systems. The difference is linux will take care of a lot of maintenance for you (like vista), but still allows you to get your hands dirty hacking the system to your hearts content. This is not to deter you from using FreeBSD - linux is a tough system when compared to windows, but FreeBSD is even tougher; bit like comparing a tank to fort knox. But the ease of use and experience you'll gain from using linux will be more forgiving than using FreeBSD. My suggestion would be to get used to the *nixes with Ubuntu or even PCBSD (which is a FreeBSD variant for newer users), once you have gotten used to that give yourself another steep learning curve and jump to the final level of FreeBSD straight-up :) Keep in touch with this list and you'll get all your questions answered no matter how ridiculous they may seem to the seasoned users here, and the Ubuntu list is nearly as helpful from my observation (hence my recommendation). Once you have the experience you'll definitely want FreeBSD for its security, stability, and more. You can run a desktop, a server, or just about whatever you want on it. The possibilties are endless with nearly any *nix system, but the stability can only be found with BSD. Good luck with your endeavours and welcome, again ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: re changing from vista
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 08:00:23AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 11:58 +0100, peter wrote: Dear sirs please can you help me i am totally confused i want to change from windows vista but i cannot understand which system to use i am not sure if freebsd will work with my hardware and software kind regards Peter Welcome to the free world Peter! FreeBSD is a very powerful and stable system, but that said it is also very hands on - the opposite extreme of vista which is all hands off. This means that you will have a very steep learning curve. This list is /very/ helpful, others may not be so friendly or helpful. This is great for newbies who need some real help in getting to know their system and fixing problems, but there are times when even this is not enough if you don't have enough experience with the system. My advice is this: get used to the *nix (linux, unix and other derivatives) systems and how they do things, and the best way to do this is to use linux which is like a halfway house for windows users. The software available for all systems is HUGE. And all this software will usually run on both systems. The difference is linux will take care of a lot of maintenance for you (like vista), but still allows you to get your hands dirty hacking the system to your hearts content. This is not to deter you from using FreeBSD - linux is a tough system when compared to windows, but FreeBSD is even tougher; bit like comparing a tank to fort knox. But the ease of use and experience you'll gain from using linux will be more forgiving than using FreeBSD. This is just wrong.I have always found FreeBSD to be easier to install and configure the way I want it that the Red Hat or Suse I often have to use for some servers at work. You can learn them all if you want and use them all. But, don't be bullied in to believing that FreeBSD is any harder than the Lunix flavors out there. jerry My suggestion would be to get used to the *nixes with Ubuntu or even PCBSD (which is a FreeBSD variant for newer users), once you have gotten used to that give yourself another steep learning curve and jump to the final level of FreeBSD straight-up :) Keep in touch with this list and you'll get all your questions answered no matter how ridiculous they may seem to the seasoned users here, and the Ubuntu list is nearly as helpful from my observation (hence my recommendation). Once you have the experience you'll definitely want FreeBSD for its security, stability, and more. You can run a desktop, a server, or just about whatever you want on it. The possibilties are endless with nearly any *nix system, but the stability can only be found with BSD. Good luck with your endeavours and welcome, again ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
portupgrade exception
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo portupgrade -nRr faad2 libxml2 mysql-server py25-django --- Session started at: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:34:40 -0500 [Gathering depends for audio/faad .. done] [Gathering depends for multimedia/ffmpeg ... done] [Exclude up-to-date packages .. done] [Gathering depends for textproc/libxml2 done] [Gathering depends for textproc/libxslt . done] [Gathering depends for textproc/xmlto .. done] [Gathering depends for databases/rrdtool .. done] [Exclude up-to-date packages .. done] --- Session ended at: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:35:37 -0500 (consumed 00:00:57) /usr/local/lib/ruby/site_ruby/1.8/pkginfo.rb:74:in `initialize': : Not in due form: name-version (ArgumentError) from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:614:in `new' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:614:in `main' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:613:in `each' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:613:in `main' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:588:in `catch' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:588:in `main' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:1303:in `call' from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:1303:in `parse_in_order' ... 7 levels... from /usr/local/lib/ruby/1.8/optparse.rb:785:in `initialize' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:229:in `new' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:229:in `main' from /usr/local/sbin/portupgrade:2208 Not inspiring confidence. MIke -- Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex... It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction. --Albert Einstein ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: re changing from vista
Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 08:00:23AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 11:58 +0100, peter wrote: Dear sirs please can you help me i am totally confused i want to change from windows vista but i cannot understand which system to use i am not sure if freebsd will work with my hardware and software kind regards Peter Welcome to the free world Peter! FreeBSD is a very powerful and stable system, but that said it is also very hands on - the opposite extreme of vista which is all hands off. This means that you will have a very steep learning curve. This list is /very/ helpful, others may not be so friendly or helpful. This is great for newbies who need some real help in getting to know their system and fixing problems, but there are times when even this is not enough if you don't have enough experience with the system. My advice is this: get used to the *nix (linux, unix and other derivatives) systems and how they do things, and the best way to do this is to use linux which is like a halfway house for windows users. The software available for all systems is HUGE. And all this software will usually run on both systems. The difference is linux will take care of a lot of maintenance for you (like vista), but still allows you to get your hands dirty hacking the system to your hearts content. This is not to deter you from using FreeBSD - linux is a tough system when compared to windows, but FreeBSD is even tougher; bit like comparing a tank to fort knox. But the ease of use and experience you'll gain from using linux will be more forgiving than using FreeBSD. This is just wrong.I have always found FreeBSD to be easier to install and configure the way I want it that the Red Hat or Suse I often have to use for some servers at work. Amen to that. I've converted many Ubuntu users who had shot themselves in the foot. They are now happy freeBSD users. YMMV ed You can learn them all if you want and use them all. But, don't be bullied in to believing that FreeBSD is any harder than the Lunix flavors out there. jerry My suggestion would be to get used to the *nixes with Ubuntu or even PCBSD (which is a FreeBSD variant for newer users), once you have gotten used to that give yourself another steep learning curve and jump to the final level of FreeBSD straight-up :) Keep in touch with this list and you'll get all your questions answered no matter how ridiculous they may seem to the seasoned users here, and the Ubuntu list is nearly as helpful from my observation (hence my recommendation). Once you have the experience you'll definitely want FreeBSD for its security, stability, and more. You can run a desktop, a server, or just about whatever you want on it. The possibilties are endless with nearly any *nix system, but the stability can only be found with BSD. Good luck with your endeavours and welcome, again ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: re changing from vista
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:19:34PM -0800, Jim Pazarena wrote: Wojciech Puchar wrote: please can you help me i am totally confused i want to change from windows vista but i cannot understand which system to use maybe windows XP? i am not sure if freebsd will work with my hardware and software simply check it. unless you think this may be a troll, your comments seem a great way to chase away a potential convert to FreeBSD. opinion But why are we interested in converting people? That borders on religious, which an operating system should not be. People should use whatever OS gets the job done for them, be it Windows, FreeBSD, Linux, OS X, Solaris, DOS, whatever. The OP's question is vague in a sincere way; users who want to move away from an OS often hope there is a simple answer, when in fact there isn't. My point is that focusing on converting someone, I feel, is the wrong way to go about showing the world the operating system is worth using. To me, it's just just another manipulative form of marketing; and I don't know about you, but marketing doesn't sway me when it comes to most things (*especially* computing-oriented things). Marketing often turns people off to things, rather than on. I'm not saying we don't need new users -- I'm saying: if we took half the energy used converting people and applied it to fixing bugs and improving FreeBSD, there wouldn't be a need to convert. Build it (and secure/stabilise it) and they will come. I guess I just see things in a different light than most. /opinion -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: re changing from vista
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jerry McAllister [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 08:00:23AM +1000, Da Rock wrote: On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 11:58 +0100, peter wrote: Dear sirs please can you help me i am totally confused i want to change from windows vista but i cannot understand which system to use i am not sure if freebsd will work with my hardware and software Take a look at the FreeBSD FAQ here - section 4 is the one you need. http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/index.html Some research om the hardware front can save you lots of pain later. kind regards Peter Welcome to the free world Peter! FreeBSD is a very powerful and stable system, but that said it is also very hands on - the opposite extreme of vista which is all hands off. This means that you will have a very steep learning curve. This list is /very/ helpful, others may not be so friendly or helpful. This is great for newbies who need some real help in getting to know their system and fixing problems, but there are times when even this is not enough if you don't have enough experience with the system. My advice is this: get used to the *nix (linux, unix and other derivatives) systems and how they do things, and the best way to do this is to use linux which is like a halfway house for windows users. The software available for all systems is HUGE. And all this software will usually run on both systems. The difference is linux will take care of a lot of maintenance for you (like vista), but still allows you to get your hands dirty hacking the system to your hearts content. This is not to deter you from using FreeBSD - linux is a tough system when compared to windows, but FreeBSD is even tougher; bit like comparing a tank to fort knox. But the ease of use and experience you'll gain from using linux will be more forgiving than using FreeBSD. This is just wrong.I have always found FreeBSD to be easier to install and configure the way I want it that the Red Hat or Suse I often have to use for some servers at work. Amen to that. I've converted many Ubuntu users who had shot themselves in the foot. They are now happy freeBSD users. YMMV ed You can learn them all if you want and use them all. But, don't be bullied in to believing that FreeBSD is any harder than the Lunix flavors out there. Well, depending on the needs, expectations and background of the learner I guess that sometimes it might feel harder! Again YMMV. One thing which makes the transition easier is the marvellous FreeBSD handbook and documentation. Two websites I found helpful were (and are!) Roland Smith's FreeBSD page here http://www.xs4all.nl/~rsmith/freebsd/ (Thank you Roland!!) and this one http://www.math.colostate.edu/~reinholz/freebsd/freebsd.html Good luck, atb Glyn ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: re changing from vista
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 02:56:26PM -0800, Jeremy Chadwick wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 12:19:34PM -0800, Jim Pazarena wrote: Wojciech Puchar wrote: please can you help me i am totally confused i want to change from windows vista but i cannot understand which system to use maybe windows XP? i am not sure if freebsd will work with my hardware and software simply check it. unless you think this may be a troll, your comments seem a great way to chase away a potential convert to FreeBSD. opinion But why are we interested in converting people? That borders on religious, which an operating system should not be. The OP asked advice on an OS alternative to Vista and asked about FreeBSD. Telling him that FreeBSD is a good choice is not making a religious statement. It is just answering his question in an honest manner. jerry People should use whatever OS gets the job done for them, be it Windows, FreeBSD, Linux, OS X, Solaris, DOS, whatever. The OP's question is vague in a sincere way; users who want to move away from an OS often hope there is a simple answer, when in fact there isn't. My point is that focusing on converting someone, I feel, is the wrong way to go about showing the world the operating system is worth using. To me, it's just just another manipulative form of marketing; and I don't know about you, but marketing doesn't sway me when it comes to most things (*especially* computing-oriented things). Marketing often turns people off to things, rather than on. I'm not saying we don't need new users -- I'm saying: if we took half the energy used converting people and applied it to fixing bugs and improving FreeBSD, there wouldn't be a need to convert. Build it (and secure/stabilise it) and they will come. I guess I just see things in a different light than most. /opinion -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: make doesn't know how to make KERNCONF
Gerardo Paredes wrote: Hello, i have a problem compiling a custom kernel on a AMD 850 MHZ Processor, however on the last stage it fails with the following message: make doesn't know how to make KERNCONF the command i run is: cd /usr/src make buildkernel KERNCONF=MIO where MIO is my kernel configuration file, living at /usr/src/sys/i386/conf why it is failing with that error?? Regards, Gerardo Paredes ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] What shell are you using? That syntax should be fine for csh, but if you are using something like bash you may need to change the syntax. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: dlsym can't use handle returned by dlopen?
Jeremy Chadwick writes: As promised: http://www.malkavian.com/~jdc/myprog.tar.gz This test program indeed works as expected. However, this doesn't quite reflect the situation in libdbi. I took your files and modified them accordingly, see: http://libdbi.sourceforge.net/downloads/dlsymtest.tar.gz To run the test use: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=. ./myprog We need to set the environment variable to let the linker pick up a shared object that gmake builds. myprog.c now just calls a function which is provided in libmylib (built from mylib.c). The latter file does most of what your test case did in myprog.c. The second major change is that myshared.so is linked against libmysqlclient (just like a libdbi database driver is linked against the client library). myfunc now calls a MySQL function to show that it is accessible (if you don't have libmysqlclient handy, you can replace it with whatever function from some .so is convenient) Finally, libmylib tries to obtain a pointer to that MySQL function by means of a dlsym call. This new dlsym call, in contrast to the existing one that acesses myfunc in myshared.so, indeed fails: myint = 0xdeadbeef (3735928559) == entered myfunc() == double = 3.141590 ==mysql client version is 50051 == exiting myfunc() dlsym() in shared lib failed: Undefined symbol mysql_get_client_version So, to make the problem clear again: while dlsym works when accessing symbols in dlopen()ed objects, it fails to access symbols which are linked into such an object if you use the handle returned by dlopen(). This is different from other OSes. regards, Markus -- Markus Hoenicka [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Spam-protected email: replace the quadrupeds with mhoenicka) http://www.mhoenicka.de ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: re changing from vista
simply check it. unless you think this may be a troll, your comments seem a great way to chase away a potential convert to FreeBSD. indeed. conversion from windows to unix that way is bad idea. if you/others will help them, soon we will have another linux - windows competitor and see discussions or even articles in newspapers about differences in windows and FreeBSD like well, FreeBSD has different windows coloration and icons. Unix is NOT windows competitor. unix is completely different way of computing. Now - linux is windows competitor, and i still remember times when it was nice and very usable OS. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: re changing from vista
FreeBSD is a very powerful and stable system, but that said it is also very hands on - the opposite extreme of vista which is all hands off. This means that you will have a very steep learning curve. simply reading FreeBSD handbook will be the best move for the beginning. But it is NOT windoze replacement. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: re changing from vista
opinion But why are we interested in converting people? That borders on religious, which an operating system should not be. exactly. it's a good idea to tell people about trying FreeBSD if they are already using some flavor of unix. One can be converted from Solaris to FreeBSD, from NetBSD to OpenBSD, and (sometimes) from linux to FreeBSD. But not from Windows. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: re changing from vista
The OP asked advice on an OS alternative to Vista and asked about FreeBSD. Telling him that FreeBSD is a good choice is not making a religious statement. It is just answering his question in an honest manner. no - because it's not alternative for Windows Vista. Windows XP is an alternative. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mdconfig(8) with offset? Or: resizing a NTFS qemu image
Hello, I'm trying to extend a ntfs filesystem in a qemu raw image, by following the instructions here: http://qemu-forum.ipi.fi/viewtopic.php?p=12362 Of course, this requires sysutils/ntfsprogs and the equivalent of losetup. Of course, mdconfig is our losetup. Now, how is it possible to mdconfig a file, but starting from a specific offset? (Of course, taking the image file apart, mdconfig one of its fragments, then putting it back together could be a hackish work-around (?), but it would be nice if mdconfig were able to map a partial file directly.) Thanks, -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: re changing from vista
Wojciech Puchar wrote: opinion But why are we interested in converting people? That borders on religious, which an operating system should not be. exactly. it's a good idea to tell people about trying FreeBSD if they are already using some flavor of unix. One can be converted from Solaris to FreeBSD, from NetBSD to OpenBSD, and (sometimes) from linux to FreeBSD. But not from Windows. I disagree strongly. If someone has the interest and ability (if only to read docs), they could certainly change from Windows to FreeBSD. The point from your quoted post appears to be that it is not a religion to be converted to from anything, rather a tool that some will use if they want to, or won't. There's nothing wrong with that. Depending on what someone is hoping to accomplish, I would certainly suggest FreeBSD as a suitable tool. It is no sweat off my back if they use something different though. To the OP if you're still reading; read through the handbook beforehand. At least, see if it's really what you want to get into. There are BSD-based desktop systems that may suit you better if you're looking for a more familiar experience. There are also many newbie-friendly Linux distributions that could suit you also. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Question about entry in auth.log
Hi, I run several FreeBSD servers. Today I noticed an entry in the auth.log on one of them that concerns me. The entry is this: Nov 12 15:44:29 mail sshd[30160]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for michael from 89.123.165.3 po rt 55185 ssh2 There is a user michael on the system, but whoever was doing this was not him. I am assuming someone tried to break in using a valid username (michael) but with an incorrect password. So I just conducted an experiment to see if I could replicate that log entry using another valid username: mandy. I ssh'ed into the server, gave mandy as the username with an incorrect password. The auth.log entry for that attempt is this: Nov 14 19:44:54 mail sshd[96194]: Failed password for mandy from 72.155.127.223 port 51919 ssh2 and when I used something called keyboard interactive as the primary authentication method in my ssh client, I get this: sshd[96348]: error: PAM: authentication error for mandy from 72.155.127.223 Nothing about Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam. What does Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam mean? Also, in my ssh client, for authentication methods I have a choice of password, publickey or keyboard interactive. I've always used password, and never even noticed that keyboard interactive before. What is that? Thanks, Lisa Casey ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about entry in auth.log
Lisa Casey wrote: Hi, I run several FreeBSD servers. Today I noticed an entry in the auth.log on one of them that concerns me. The entry is this: Nov 12 15:44:29 mail sshd[30160]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for michael from 89.123.165.3 po rt 55185 ssh2 There is a user michael on the system, but whoever was doing this was not him. I am assuming someone tried to break in using a valid username (michael) but with an incorrect password. So I just conducted an experiment to see if I could replicate that log entry using another valid username: mandy. I ssh'ed into the server, gave mandy as the username with an incorrect password. The auth.log entry for that attempt is this: Nov 14 19:44:54 mail sshd[96194]: Failed password for mandy from 72.155.127.223 port 51919 ssh2 and when I used something called keyboard interactive as the primary authentication method in my ssh client, I get this: sshd[96348]: error: PAM: authentication error for mandy from 72.155.127.223 Nothing about Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam. What does Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam mean? Also, in my ssh client, for authentication methods I have a choice of password, publickey or keyboard interactive. I've always used password, and never even noticed that keyboard interactive before. What is that? Thanks, Lisa Casey Keyboard-interactive includes when the server sends requests such as Password: to which the connector responds by typing their password. This is different from entering the password in your client before connecting. Example: $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: Try doing similar with the correct password and I bet you will see the Accepted/keyboard-interactive, it may be possible that michael's password is no longer secure. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Question about entry in auth.log
On Nov 14, 2008, at 8:00 PM, Steven Susbauer wrote: Lisa Casey wrote: Hi, I run several FreeBSD servers. Today I noticed an entry in the auth.log on one of them that concerns me. The entry is this: Nov 12 15:44:29 mail sshd[30160]: Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam for michael from 89.123.165.3 po rt 55185 ssh2 There is a user michael on the system, but whoever was doing this was not him. I am assuming someone tried to break in using a valid username (michael) but with an incorrect password. So I just conducted an experiment to see if I could replicate that log entry using another valid username: mandy. I ssh'ed into the server, gave mandy as the username with an incorrect password. The auth.log entry for that attempt is this: Nov 14 19:44:54 mail sshd[96194]: Failed password for mandy from 72.155.127.223 port 51919 ssh2 and when I used something called keyboard interactive as the primary authentication method in my ssh client, I get this: sshd[96348]: error: PAM: authentication error for mandy from 72.155.127.223 Nothing about Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam. What does Accepted keyboard-interactive/pam mean? Also, in my ssh client, for authentication methods I have a choice of password, publickey or keyboard interactive. I've always used password, and never even noticed that keyboard interactive before. What is that? Thanks, Lisa Casey Keyboard-interactive includes when the server sends requests such as Password: to which the connector responds by typing their password. This is different from entering the password in your client before connecting. Example: $ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]'s password: Try doing similar with the correct password and I bet you will see the Accepted/keyboard-interactive, it may be possible that michael's password is no longer secure. Or michael is vacationing in Romania. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about entry in auth.log
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, Tom Marchand wrote: Or michael is vacationing in Romania. Very odd. Sigh, Michael is not vacationing in Romania. Doubt he's ever been there. I got rid of the michael account (it wasn't used anyway), and downloaded a new copy of chkrootkit, installed it and ran it along with chklastlog and chkwtmp. Nothing was found. Pehaps this was a harmless enough prank? Anything else I ought to look at? Fortunately the michael account did not have te ability to su to root. Lisa ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Multiple sound cards snd_hda
hello, can anyone verify that the new snd_hda driver in -current supports multiple sound cards? I am looking to put 3 of Encore ENM232-8VIA into a FreeBSD 8 PC any help would be appreciated Sam Fourman Jr. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking information about CF files of LPD
At 10:55 PM -0700 11/13/08, Martin Alejandro Paredes Sanchez wrote: Hi: I have the idea of had seen the description of the content of CF files, but I can't find anymore in the handbook. That information had been removed? There's some RFC for it, but pretty much nobody implements CF-files in the exact way that is described in the RFC. I doubt it was ever described in any detail in the FreeBSD handbook, but it may have been in some of the books which have been written for the BSD's. You may have seen the comments I wrote up in one of the source files for lpr (common_source/ctlinfo.c): http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/usr.sbin/lpr/common_source/ctlinfo.c?rev=1.10.16.1;content-type=text%2Fplain Scan down for the comment: Control-files (cf*) have the following format That's probably not complete, but it's whatever I felt was worth noting when I wrote that source file. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Systems Programmer or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute; Troy, NY; USA ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: root /etc/csh
isn't the main reason because other shells may reside on a filesystem which isn't necessarily mounted in maintenance/single user mode? Or, libraries for the same? -- Jim Pazarena [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just link the shell of your choice statically and put it somewhere in /. Problem solved. Why doesn't FreeBSD ship bash and other shells besides the `sh' linked statically is beyond me. It wouldn't break ports, would it? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Looking information about CF files of LPD
El Vie 14 Nov 2008, Garance A Drosehn escribió: There's some RFC for it, but pretty much nobody implements CF-files in the exact way that is described in the RFC. I doubt it was ever described in any detail in the FreeBSD handbook, but it may have been in some of the books which have been written for the BSD's. You may have seen the comments I wrote up in one of the source files for lpr (common_source/ctlinfo.c): http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/src/usr.sbin/lpr/common_so urce/ctlinfo.c?rev=1.10.16.1;content-type=text%2Fplain Scan down for the comment: Control-files (cf*) have the following format That's probably not complete, but it's whatever I felt was worth noting when I wrote that source file. Thanks I also remeber where I see it It was in the man page of LPD maps ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Question about entry in auth.log
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 10:00:13PM -0500, Lisa Casey wrote: Very odd. Sigh, Michael is not vacationing in Romania. Doubt he's ever been there. I got rid of the michael account (it wasn't used anyway), and downloaded a new copy of chkrootkit, installed it and ran it along with chklastlog and chkwtmp. Nothing was found. Pehaps this was a harmless enough prank? Anything else I ought to look at? Fortunately the michael account did not have te ability to su to root. The individual in Romania *was not* able to log in as michael. The message you saw was sshd saying Someone's trying to SSH in as user michael; SSH key negotiation failed, and now I'm asking them to type in their password manually. It's not a prank. Shady online individuals have written scripts/tools that repetitively beat on sshd, trying to find an account they can log in as. They're simply scanning for valid accounts, and they also often try many passwords over and over (common things, such as the username as a password). Welcome to the Internet circa 2008. :( So how do I solve this problem? The easiest way: change sshd to listen on a port *other* than 22. Many people pick . This relieves 99% of the pain, but requires you to tell your users/co-workers/peers My box listens on port for ssh, not 22. A secondary way: programs which monitor logs and add firewall block rules when they see too many brute force attempts coming from an IP address: ports/security/blocksshd ports/security/sshblock ports/security/sshguard (I think I forgot one more, but those are the main three) -- | Jeremy Chadwickjdc at parodius.com | | Parodius Networking http://www.parodius.com/ | | UNIX Systems Administrator Mountain View, CA, USA | | Making life hard for others since 1977. PGP: 4BD6C0CB | ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
