Re: 7.2 Release kills my XP Dual Boot
Is there any resolution to this? I had the same problem upgrading from 7.0 - 7.2. I've been running FreeBSD dual-boot for over 10 years w/o this problem in the past. I re-ran my fdisk script from an old 6.x boot disk recovered the XP partitions, but can't boot 7.2. Re-installing 7.2 kills XP. My system disk has 3 partitions: ad0s2 is first (XP recovery). Next is ad0s1 (XP) followed by FreeBSD. Thanks for any input. Kent, I tried for two days every recovery tool I could lay my hands on both open source and proprietary I still could not recover my mangled - well, whatever bootsec / mbr / partable In could even do an XP repair, fixmbr, fixboot and almost every disc checker said there was no issues with the sata disc. I have P1[XP-NTFS], EXT1[NTFS], P2[3BSD] I ended up doing a re-install of everything. I then took an image of my boot sector / mbr and partables and held on to my plumbs whilst trying to install 7.2 a second time (I dont like to be defeated!) This time, no probs although I have noticed BTX labled the EXT1 as ? and not DOS as it used to. Currently I cant get £ signs at the console or X but thats another 7.2 story. I only have limited time and may well go back to Slitaz !!! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: UK Keyboard in 7.2 console and xorg
The xorg-server port has an option not to use hal. But it is enabled by default. Thanks for the info however that doesnt help me on uk currency key on the console which still eludes me. I suspect in my case, if I could figure out how to fix the console keyboard issue it would actually work in x even with hald (which btw is working fine with rest of keys and mouse!) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Problems with IPv6 CARP Interface in PF
Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote:
Hello:
I'm having reachability problems with a CARP interface set up on two 7.1
boxes with an uplink to Cisco routers. However, the inside CARP address
on the same set of PF boxes are reachable with no trouble. Here's the
config.
Cisco Cisco
HSRP Gateway
|
CARP Interface 1
PF Box PF Box
CARP Interface 2
|
Server
When I try to ping CARP Interface 1 above from the Internet, I get no
response. When I ping the CARP Interface 2, which has a route set from
the Cisco's to CARP Interface 1, it works. Here's what I see in my
logs.
00:38:45.763975 IP6 fe80::203:6cff:fef9:2c00 ff02::1:ff00:7: ICMP6,
neighbor solicitation, who has 2001:4970:::7, length 32
... with no response.
Here is the ifconfig from one box.
carp0: flags=49UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING metric 0 mtu 1500
inet6 2001:4970:::6 prefixlen 64
inet6 2001:4970:::7 prefixlen 64
carp: MASTER vhid 1 advbase 1 advskew 100
carp1: flags=49UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING metric 0 mtu 1500
inet6 2001:4970::::1 prefixlen 64
carp: MASTER vhid 2 advbase 1 advskew 100
and the other shows appropriately as BACKUP. There is no change if I
run with just one PF box.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
* Do you have PF rulesets written to take account of the CARP interfaces
and IPs correctly? You can say things like:
pass in on carp0 proto icmp6 from any to { carp0 carp1 } keep state
You may not need carp specific rules if the carp IP is from the same
network as the IPs on the front interfaces of those PF boxes, and your
rules are written to filter traffic crossing those interfaces by network
(say) rather than by specific IP numbers.
A good debugging trick is to make sure that all pf rules that block
packets have a log clause, and then tcpdump pflog0 while doing your
connectivity tests. Immediately tells you if its PF blocking things
rather than some other problem.
* I'm sure this is far too obvious, but in case you've tripped over this
one accidentally:
pass ... proto inet
only allows IPv4. Either drop the proto clause altogether, or add explicit
'proto inet6' rules.
* Have you tried tcpdump on the various physical and carp interfaces on those
machines while trying to ping? Probably the most interesting data to be
gleaned
from that is if there are ping responses being sent, and what IP they originate
from.
Cheers,
Matthew
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Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
On Wed, 27 May 2009 17:09:05 +0100, Chris Rees utis...@googlemail.com wrote: Seriously, why give up on something because it takes an hour or two out of your day, and carry on the ~seven minute reboot-to-'Windows'-cycle out of laziness? Sounds counter-productive and defeatist. The idea is that doing such complicated things in FreeBSD (and in UNIX in general) teaches things, gives experiences and helps solving oter problems on one's own later. I've often seen similar situations where my solution would be called too complex, but after that, I *learned* things, and this gave me the ability do do things better (faster!) now. So I may say: It's not always the final result that counts, but the way leading to it. Of course, to the average user, learning doesn't count. He is not interested in (1) how things work, (b) how things are done or (3) how things might be done better. He just wants the final result, and he wants it now (or yesterday). :-) I my own printer journey, I had help from the de- list. With the upgrade to 7, apsfilter stopped working as intended. Functions A, B working; C D not working anymore. The help from the list made me have C and D, but A and B stopped then. Finally, I could combine apsfilter settings and several options for gs. Voila! A, B, C and D working again (as in FreeBSD 5). Would I have ever been able to solve such problems without having the need to learn something before? Definitely not. I'm happy I can read such long instructions about how to get stupid non-printers working with a standard compliant operating system, and I always save such instructions locally, because one day, I can solve a problem that the printer manufacturer can't (because he originated it by his lack of standard compliance). -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: rsync approach
we have 2 static ip addresses with a machine running 7.2 connected to each. one is the primary server, while the other does only dns and receives bkp dumps from the first. we want to set things up so the 2nd can be brought on line at a moment's notice. therefore, we are thinking of rsync to duplicate 1st 2nd (with the exception of rc.conf and a few other files of course because we don't want them to be absolutely identical). we plan to allow root login and have disabled all password access so that rsync can preserve permissions. i don't catch why disabling password access will allow rsync to preserve permission. It will preserve just when you give proper option is this a good way to accomplish the bkp job? yes it is. There is another way too - having both adventage and disadventage. 1) make an option in FreeBSD loader menu to run ramdisk-freebsd (ramdisk from file). Put on that cutdown ramdisk system only startup of ggated with a disk 2) on main machine run ggatec and gmirror. you will get network mirrored hard disk. make this procedure conditional so it runs only on first machine (for eg check MAC address of your network interface) in case of machine 1 fail, you just run second with normal, instead of ramdisk mode. It has adventage of full realtime replication, but it's disadventage in the same time. For example if you run rsync once per 2 hours, and you by accident delete a lots of things, you can recover. with gmirror way it is instantly replicated so you can't recover ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Is this a gmirror bug?
that do zcat [partition image.gz] /dev/partition We have a two step process. First we run a script that creates the master image as a tgz. The image is created at an alternate root using the -C option of pkg_add and the DESTDIR option of the various OS install scripts. We only run this script when we need to make a change to the master image. We use this image to create bootable USB sticks, and when a system is booted from one of these sticks there is automatic startup logic that clones the disk onto the target hard drive of the box (configuring the good but seems quite overcomplex expecially this pkg_add. why just not to compress whole filesystem(s) by tar+gzip? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)
anyway, i reread the original sponsoring offer and i think i understand well. so - if FreeBSD team like to accept donations that way, my 100$ is still waiting :) I am afraid you still do not understand it. This sponsorship offer was NOT directed to you. did you really read my sentence. I TOO OFFER 100$ for getting my advert on FreeBSD webpage, as he did. If FreeBSD core team accept this, 200$ is ready. But i think you simply don't really want to read what i write, you better like to repeat the same sentences over and over again. hope it will change ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ANNOUNCE: OpenOffice.org 3.1 (i386) packages now available
On 5/23/09, Manolis Kiagias sonic200...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, This is a continuation of an effort to offer pre-built packages for OpenOffice, that started with this post: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-April/195997.html With the release of OpenOffice 3.1, the new package and all dependencies were rebuilt, and are hosted on the same location as before: http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/packages/openoffice/ The main package to download is: http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/packages/openoffice/openoffice.org-3.1.0.tbz Everyone who installed the 3.01 packages should be able to easily upgrade to this version. It would be best to have an otherwise upgraded system before installing this package. Users who do not have any version of openoffice already installed, are advised to read the instructions in the post linked above. Please note these packages were built for 7.2-RELEASE, i386. You are of course welcome to send any comments, problems etc, either by mail or by replying to this thread. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Are extensions working for you? -- Paul ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
On Wed, 27 May 2009 13:37:06 -0400, Jerry ges...@yahoo.com wrote: 2) The technology exists, as demonstrated by Microsoft, to easily configure a printer. It's because MICROS~1 are part of the system that builds the concepts for the printers, and the printers itself. Because of their monopoly positzion, they can say: If you build a printer, make drivers for our 'Windows', and it will sell well. If you make drivers for FreeBSD, which doesn't exist, then it won't sell. By the way, having to use CDs or DVDs to install printer drivers anlong with loads of crapware (that is usually included) doesn't make the situation better. I prefer the system that FreeBSD uses: You install ONE (!) printer system that supports all (standard compliant) printers, and you don't have to do any more work. On a system with no printer, you install nothing. On a system where the printer is changed, you don't need to deinstall driver A and install driver B, you simply alter the printer system's setting. Having to perform Herculean tasks, load extra software; i.e. cups for instance, etc is not productive. CUPS isn't extra software in my opinions. Printer drivers are. Because they are required to make a thing working that does not conform to standards that would have made it work out of the box. 4) My time is valuable. I don't feel like wasting it trying to get a printer to work correctly when it is easier to do on a Win32 box. It is not time well spent. Time spent learning is always worth spending. Remember that we who have learned to get things working are always called when troubles arise, and we are paid to do so. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Formatted text conversion
On Wed, 27 May 2009 08:41:56 -0700, Kelly Jones kelly.terry.jo...@gmail.com wrote: I have e-books in several formats (DOC, LIT, PDF, RTF, HTML, TXT, etc). Is there a Unix command-line tool that converts between these formats? As it has been mentioned before, there's not the one tool for everything, but you can easily use OpenOffice to process most of them, and finally turn them into plain text, either by using OO's export function (save as text), or ^A ^C, change to your favourite text editor, ^V ^S. There are of course command line tools that let you do this without interaction, which is great when you want to process a bunch of files. If not, is there at least a tool that converts these formats to TXT? To ASCII text: DOC: catdoc RTF: unrtf, rtfx PDF: pdftotext HTML: lynx -dump My goal is to read these books on my Kindle, even if it means losing some formatting/bells/whistles. If the Kindle does support PDF (I don't know if it does), wouldn't that be a better alternative, because it lets you keep the format of the document? -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: A FreeBSD program that rotates text
On Wed, 27 May 2009 11:43:21 -0700, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote: Why not use Postscript (ghostscript) for this? Yes, why not? :-) Allthough I did a lecture at university about Postscript, this didn't come into my mind. I'm aware now that PS can be used to draw the circles as well, and do the clipping of the drawing inside the inner circle. Maybe it can even to the outlines of the letters, this seems to depend on the text font used. Thank you, I will keep this in mind, as well as the solution based on Inkscape. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: removing distfiles?
On Wed, 27 May 2009 22:43:51 +0200, herbert langhans herbert.raim...@gmx.net wrote: Hi Daemons, a short question: I can delete the .tar.gz files from /usr/ports/distfiles - is this correct? These are used for compiling purposes by the ports system. They are fetched if needed. If you delete them, and want to compile a port later, the needed version will be fetched again. So: Yes, you can delete them. Not that some port tree management goes crazy (dependencies or such).. As it has been mentioned, it depends on the tool you use for this. the make update method employing cvsup / csup doesn't seem to be interested in distfiles/, maybe portupgrade or portmaster is. (I'm using portupgrade tools, and I've not found myself in a difficult situation.) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: RTL8111-GR driver for FreeBSD6.4
says it support RTL8111 but i have FreeBSD 7.1 I have a 6.4 machine (about to be retired). On that machine, man 4 re says it supports the RTL8111S, but does not mention the RTL8111GR. My guess is that in 7.1 it too says only about S, i assumed that S and GR are only different chip revisions/different functionality, maybe one have builtin PHY other external etc. etc. but it's software compatible. That's usual naming scheme of chips, but of course there may be exceptions. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
could only do this, or stop being moderator. If rules would allow any discussion if moderator should or should not delete post, then rules are wrong and must be fixed. moderator can not have any power to resolve personal things through it. I read what you posted carefully. I'm asking you to play pretend . . . if you were the moderator of the list you suggest, do you think that the response you gave to the OP, as a non-developer, is acceptable. That is, do you think that that those who have no responsibility as far as what is done with $$ donated to the fBSD cause (i.e., you) should respond to to those who wish to donate? For a minute there, I was hoping that it was a language issue (BTW - I think your English is quite good), ^^^ not so sure, because now i'm not sure if i understand these above well. If i would be a moderator (or anyone else - there will be just rules to conform) i would for sure delete sponsoring offer no matter if it offered 100 or 1E6$ But i will reply to the sender that contacts for FreeBSD core team are on the webpage, and that i forwarded his/her mail to them. it's quite clear i think ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
FreeBSD developers know enough to avoid speaking 'on behalf' of anyone, unless they are explicitly asked to do so and it makes sense. We usually just point the users gently towards an appropriate resource: a webpage, a mailing list, or a team of more knowledgeable folks, etc. Boris did the right thing IMO by pointing at the donations pages. Two of Exactly. but it for sure wasn't what original sponsoring offer wanted. He wanted banner/logo advert on mine webpage. a) We generally accept all donations, regardless of how small they are. Even donations of a single RAM chip for nearly obsolete platforms are welcome and we try to find someone who will make good use of it. But you don't put advert for this. As you said - there is separate webpage for listing sponsors, and that's excellent. b) The donations team acts as a gateway for incoming stuff, and they have enough experience to discern genuine offers for a donation from spammy please link to my personal web site and I will make you rich scamming schemes. So what's wrong with my answer for such spammy offer? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: removing distfiles?
On Thu, 28 May 2009 03:22:07 +0100 RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 27 May 2009 21:34:58 -0400 Robert Huff roberth...@rcn.com wrote: [snip] That's what I used to think until I deleted some java distfiles, and had to go though the rigmarole of getting all the various files manually. There's also the possibility that a distfile gets rerolled and local copy is the only one that matches the port checksums. Disk space is cheap, the extra files don't add up to much in practice. The real advantage of cleaning comes from not have ten copies of kdebase and the like. That is why I keep a backup of all the 'java' src files in ~/java just so I can replace them in /usr/ports/distfiles if required. Other than for the 'java' files. I completely delete all files in the 'distfiles' directory. They server no useful purpose and can always be downloaded again if required. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an art. Charles McCabe signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
2) The technology exists, as demonstrated by Microsoft, to easily configure a printer. It's because MICROS~1 are part of the system that builds the concepts for the printers, and the printers itself. Because of their monopoly positzion, they can say: If you build a printer, make drivers for our 'Windows', and it will sell well. If you make drivers for FreeBSD, which doesn't exist, then it won't sell. indeed. actually if printers would simply support standards like PCL or postscript and standard USB protocol it would not be need for ANY drivers both for windoze and FreeBSD. The problem is that most buyers are more happy when they get added value for free like tons of CD's Manufacturers do what market required, no matter how dumb it is. Those who didn't already failed. But again it wouldn't be that hard to make printer conforming to standard AND produce (click-generate) few gigs of add on software for windows. As windows user may get scared hearing the word unix, even in context like supports both windows and unix, they could sell the same printer as 2 products - printer for windows (bundled with this few gigs of addons) and printer for unix, bundled with 1 page instruction with an example how to make ghostscript filter and how to configure lpd. included) doesn't make the situation better. I prefer the system that FreeBSD uses: You install ONE (!) printer actually i never used things like cups, turboprint, whatever. i just run lpr to print postscript file, or print directly from programs through lpr system that supports all (standard compliant) printers, and you don't have to do any more work. On a system with There are lot of compliant second-hand printers for 100$. For example i have HP LaserJet 4, which printed 85000 pages when i bought it, and i printed over 15000. And it works flawlessy, so i don't have new printer every year. Having to perform Herculean tasks, load extra software; i.e. cups for instance, etc is not productive. CUPS isn't extra software in my opinions. Printer drivers are. exactly. it's not needed for printing. In unix many many years ago printing subsystem was already written. it's called lpd, and it has support for filters that can be considered drivers. 4) My time is valuable. I don't feel like wasting it trying to get a printer to work correctly when it is easier to do on a Win32 box. It is not time well spent. assuming someone has windows box handy. one more computer just to print doesn't make much sense :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Thu, 28 May 2009 11:12:16 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: FreeBSD developers know enough to avoid speaking 'on behalf' of anyone, unless they are explicitly asked to do so and it makes sense. We usually just point the users gently towards an appropriate resource: a webpage, a mailing list, or a team of more knowledgeable folks, etc. Boris did the right thing IMO by pointing at the donations pages. Two of Exactly. but it for sure wasn't what original sponsoring offer wanted. He wanted banner/logo advert on mine webpage. a) We generally accept all donations, regardless of how small they are. Even donations of a single RAM chip for nearly obsolete platforms are welcome and we try to find someone who will make good use of it. But you don't put advert for this. As you said - there is separate webpage for listing sponsors, and that's excellent. b) The donations team acts as a gateway for incoming stuff, and they have enough experience to discern genuine offers for a donation from spammy please link to my personal web site and I will make you rich scamming schemes. So what's wrong with my answer for such spammy offer? Dunno, I saw too many messages in the thread to remember if there *was* anything wrong. I'm not saying that there was something wrong with what you wrote. I just liked what Boris (bsam) replied to the OP's message. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Remotely edit user disk quota
Hi, I am writing a Perl script to run on our web server. This script will be used to create user accounts. I can do almost every thing on the web server: - create the home directory - add a user in LDAP - create the MySQL database for that user The only thing I cannot do is to set the disk quota: the home directory is NFS mounted from another machine acting as file server, the quota must be edited on the file server. How could I nicely and securely connect from the script on the web server to the file server, in order to edit the quota? It should be nice and secure and without password. TIA Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
- create the MySQL database for that user The only thing I cannot do is to set the disk quota: the home directory is NFS mounted from another machine acting as file server, the quota must be edited on the file server. How could I nicely and securely connect from the script on the web server to the file server, in order to edit the quota? It should be use rsh and .rhosts :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
Dunno, I saw too many messages in the thread to remember if there *was* anything wrong. I'm not saying that there was something wrong with what so look back, as there wasn't. I think you just followed trend to criticize my just because, while you didn't start it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Thu, 28 May 2009 12:36:10 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Dunno, I saw too many messages in the thread to remember if there *was* anything wrong. I'm not saying that there was something wrong with what so look back, as there wasn't. I think you just followed trend to criticize my just because, while you didn't start it. Not really. I tried to phrase what I wrote very carefully, to only point out what I liked. I don't follow trends, but I will reserve my right to point out both what I like and what I don't :D ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
How could I nicely and securely connect from the script on the web server to the file server, in order to edit the quota? It should be use rsh and .rhosts :) I do that already, not really what I call secure ;) As I put up a new machine, I'd prefer something else. Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
use rsh and .rhosts :) I do that already, not really what I call secure ;) Could you please explain why it is not secure in your case? I don't know exactly the environment in your case so i can't answer for sure, but most probably it's perfectly secure. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
2009/5/28 Olivier Nicole o...@cs.ait.ac.th: How could I nicely and securely connect from the script on the web server to the file server, in order to edit the quota? It should be use rsh and .rhosts :) I do that already, not really what I call secure ;) As I put up a new machine, I'd prefer something else. Olivier You could use ssh and ssh keys. That's what I use in my scripts. rsh and ssh are so similar in use there's really no point in using rsh at all any more. The security gained by ssh is so great that any (very small) overhead is well worth it. Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
use rsh and .rhosts :) I do that already, not really what I call secure ;) Could you please explain why it is not secure in your case? I don't know exactly the environment in your case so i can't answer for sure, but most probably it's perfectly secure. Because rsh/rlogin etc. is unsecure in any case. I don't remember the details, I think it has to do with the way it checks (or do not check) that the hosts are the one they pretend they are. Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
FreeBSD in a cloud
Does anyone know a place to host FreeBSD in a cloud? Rackspace offer quite interesting cloud servers via www.mosso.com - but they claim they run only Linux. We have had FreeBSD with Rackspace for over 5 years (though they refuse to officially support it) and I cannot understand if they cannot or do not want to run it in the cloud. Iv ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ANNOUNCE: OpenOffice.org 3.1 (i386) packages now available
On 5/28/09, Paul B. Mahol one...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/23/09, Manolis Kiagias sonic200...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, This is a continuation of an effort to offer pre-built packages for OpenOffice, that started with this post: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2009-April/195997.html With the release of OpenOffice 3.1, the new package and all dependencies were rebuilt, and are hosted on the same location as before: http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/packages/openoffice/ The main package to download is: http://freebsd.dev-urandom.com/packages/openoffice/openoffice.org-3.1.0.tbz Everyone who installed the 3.01 packages should be able to easily upgrade to this version. It would be best to have an otherwise upgraded system before installing this package. Users who do not have any version of openoffice already installed, are advised to read the instructions in the post linked above. Please note these packages were built for 7.2-RELEASE, i386. You are of course welcome to send any comments, problems etc, either by mail or by replying to this thread. Thanks! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org Are extensions working for you? After little exploration this is already known problem: ports/129308 -- Paul ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
rsh and ssh are so similar in use there's really no point in using rsh at all any more. there is a point. Just try to think why instead of simply repeating a phrase ssh is secure, rsh is not, don't use it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
2009/5/28 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: rsh and ssh are so similar in use there's really no point in using rsh at all any more. there is a point. Just try to think why instead of simply repeating a phrase ssh is secure, rsh is not, don't use it. rlogin has several serious security problems: * All information, including passwords, is transmitted unencrypted (making it vulnerable to interception). * The .rlogin (or .rhosts) file is easy to misuse (potentially allowing anyone to login without a password) - for this reason many corporate system administrators prohibit .rlogin files and actively search their networks for offenders. * The protocol partly relies on the remote party's rlogin client providing information honestly (including source port and source host name). A corrupt client is thus able to forge this and gain access, as the rlogin protocol has no means of authenticating other machines' identities, or ensuring that the rlogin client on a trusted machine is the real rlogin client. * The common practice of mounting users' home directories via NFS exposes rlogin to attack by means of fake .rhosts files - this means that any of NFS's security faults automatically plague rlogin. Due to these serious problems rlogin was rarely used across untrusted networks (like the public internet) and even in closed deployments it has fallen into relative disuse (with many Unix and Linux distributions no longer including it by default). Many networks which formerly relied on rlogin and telnet have replaced it with SSH and its rlogin-equivalent slogin. -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)
2009/5/28 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: anyway, i reread the original sponsoring offer and i think i understand well. so - if FreeBSD team like to accept donations that way, my 100$ is still waiting :) I am afraid you still do not understand it. This sponsorship offer was NOT directed to you. did you really read my sentence. I TOO OFFER 100$ for getting my advert on FreeBSD webpage, as he did. If FreeBSD core team accept this, 200$ is ready. But i think you simply don't really want to read what i write, you better like to repeat the same sentences over and over again. hope it will change Actually he said: QUOTE href=http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/12268152.html What we ask for in return for our sponsorships is a short mentioning on the site somewhere with a link to our website. /QUOTE I took that to mean on the Sponsors' page, not the main page, and even if it does, it is _not your place_ to tell sponsors that their donations aren't 'good' enough. Now please read this question and answer it: Why did you reply to the message? Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
sure, but most probably it's perfectly secure. Because rsh/rlogin etc. is unsecure in any case. I don't remember the very bad you don't remember the details. Let i give you an example. I throw 1000$ on my table in my flat. Is this money insecure? The answer is - maybe, it's just as secure as my doors and windows cause you have to enter my flat first to get it. Other case - i put this 1000$ into hardened steel coffer. Is it secure? The answer is - The coffer provides EXTRA security over just throwing it on table. The question - do i need an extra cost of coffer? the answer depends again of how good my doors and windows are! Same with rsh. If your servers are connected by LAN and there are only your servers there, there are not possible to: 1) sniff your traffic as potential sniffer isn't in LAN 2) cheat from outside your inside's IP. So you simply don't need a coffer. As coffer is an extra cost, ssh is an extra cost. Actually great cost of unneeded encryption and RSA/DSA negotiation on startup. The other case: i have secure tunnels between some of my servers and my home computer. I do use rsh/rlogin for everything as the communication is already secured! The difference between human and monkeys is that human can think himself instead of just learning and blindly repeating. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
Due to these serious problems rlogin was rarely used across untrusted networks Good you finally pointed out the most important thing rlogin/rsh is insecure across untrusted network This is QUITE a difference between this and rsh is insecure. period rsh is as secure as the communication channel. If it can be considered secure - DO USE rsh, because it's fastest as it doesn't have any encryption overhead. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
2009/5/27 Jerry ges...@yahoo.com: On Wed, 27 May 2009 17:09:05 +0100 Chris Rees utis...@googlemail.com wrote: Seriously, why give up on something because it takes an hour or two out of your day, and carry on the ~seven minute reboot-to-'Windows'-cycle out of laziness? Sounds counter-productive and defeatist. 1) You are assuming that the same PC contains both Windows FBSD. So you suggest leaving one computer running 'Windows' on solely as a print server? Is that an efficient use of power, space and hardware? Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)
Actually he said: QUOTE href=http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/12268152.html What we ask for in return for our sponsorships is a short mentioning on the site somewhere with a link to our website. so if you believe it means that he will be happy with being on list, i can get him back if you like ;) I took that to mean on the Sponsors' page, not the main page, and even if it does, it is _not your place_ to tell sponsors that their it's UNMODERATED mailing list, so i can share my opinion. And you are really the last person i care about when presenting my opinion. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
2009/5/28 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: Due to these serious problems rlogin was rarely used across untrusted networks Good you finally pointed out the most important thing rlogin/rsh is insecure across untrusted network This is QUITE a difference between this and rsh is insecure. period rsh is as secure as the communication channel. If it can be considered secure - DO USE rsh, because it's fastest as it doesn't have any encryption overhead. But the encryption overhead is almost nothing. The best security comes in layers. Also, I think it's a bad idea to leave money lying round like that. That's why we have banks. More layers. Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
Also, I think it's a bad idea to leave money lying round like that. That's why we have banks. More layers. like most people today you like overcomplexity, layers etc. But there are still people that prefer simplicity. You should have some respect to them. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: removing distfiles?
On Thu, 28 May 2009 07:49:12 +0200 Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Thursday 28 May 2009 03:13:46 RW wrote: On Wed, 27 May 2009 22:56:10 +0200 Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Using e.g. 'portmaster --clean-distfiles-all' only removes those distfiles that do not belong to installed ports. I've not used it myself, but there is also a shell script called distviper in bsdadminscripts which supports both of distclean's modes without the ruby dependence. What ruby dependence in portmaster? He said portMASTER not portUPGRADE. I wrote: supports both of distclean's modes without the ruby dependence. Portmaster only supports one of the modes, distclean has a ruby dependence. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
Wojciech Puchar wrote: Also, I think it's a bad idea to leave money lying round like that. That's why we have banks. More layers. like most people today you like overcomplexity, layers etc. But there are still people that prefer simplicity. You should have some respect to them. Some. But zero sympathy the day it all blows up in their faces due to just one little configuration error or, oops, exploit they didn't know about. In any case, I believe we've had the Wojciech can do all sorts of advanced things as he doesn't have to protect himself from any junior admins on shift 3 or comply with any best practices that he thinks are silly because it's all about him on his network conversation on this list before. A rehash would be tedious. -- --Jon Radel j...@radel.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: removing distfiles?
On Thursday 28 May 2009 13:24:30 RW wrote: On Thu, 28 May 2009 07:49:12 +0200 Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Thursday 28 May 2009 03:13:46 RW wrote: On Wed, 27 May 2009 22:56:10 +0200 Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Using e.g. 'portmaster --clean-distfiles-all' only removes those distfiles that do not belong to installed ports. I've not used it myself, but there is also a shell script called distviper in bsdadminscripts which supports both of distclean's modes without the ruby dependence. What ruby dependence in portmaster? He said portMASTER not portUPGRADE. I wrote: supports both of distclean's modes without the ruby dependence. Portmaster only supports one of the modes, distclean has a ruby dependence. I'm still not sure what ruby dependence you go on about. Could you point me to the line in portmaster that invokes ruby or a ruby script? -- Mel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: removing distfiles?
On Thu, 28 May 2009 12:24:30 +0100 RW rwmailli...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, 28 May 2009 07:49:12 +0200 Mel Flynn mel.flynn+fbsd.questi...@mailing.thruhere.net wrote: On Thursday 28 May 2009 03:13:46 RW wrote: On Wed, 27 May 2009 22:56:10 +0200 Roland Smith rsm...@xs4all.nl wrote: Using e.g. 'portmaster --clean-distfiles-all' only removes those distfiles that do not belong to installed ports. I've not used it myself, but there is also a shell script called distviper in bsdadminscripts which supports both of distclean's modes without the ruby dependence. What ruby dependence in portmaster? He said portMASTER not portUPGRADE. I wrote: supports both of distclean's modes without the ruby dependence. Portmaster only supports one of the modes, distclean has a ruby dependence. Sorry, that should have been portsclean not distclean. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
respect to them. Some. But zero sympathy the day it all blows up in their faces due to just one little configuration error or, oops, exploit they didn't know about. what configuration error could you imagine. In my opinion there is bigger change to make a configuration error in more sophisticated config than in simple. and higher chance for security bug in more complex program than in simple. rshd is damn simple program compared to sshd. My rule is - if you can do more simple, DO IT more simple. If this make me very advanced administrator it's just a proof that it's easy to become advanced administrator, you just have not to repeat blindly what's said everywhere. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ANNOUNCE: OpenOffice.org 3.1 (i386) packages now available
Paul B. Mahol wrote: Are extensions working for you? After little exploration this is already known problem: ports/129308 Haven't tried extensions (rarely use any) but thanks for letting us know. Was this working on 3.01? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)
2009/5/28 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: Actually he said: QUOTE href=http://www.opensubscriber.com/message/freebsd-questions@freebsd.org/12268152.html What we ask for in return for our sponsorships is a short mentioning on the site somewhere with a link to our website. so if you believe it means that he will be happy with being on list, i can get him back if you like ;) I took that to mean on the Sponsors' page, not the main page, and even if it does, it is _not your place_ to tell sponsors that their it's UNMODERATED mailing list, so i can share my opinion. And you are really the last person i care about when presenting my opinion. So are you going to answer my question? Why did you answer his question? Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)
it's UNMODERATED mailing list, so i can share my opinion. And you are really the last person i care about when presenting my opinion. So are you going to answer my question? Why did you answer his question? already did. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
On Thu, 28 May 2009 12:13:42 +0100 Chris Rees utis...@googlemail.com wrote: So you suggest leaving one computer running 'Windows' on solely as a print server? Is that an efficient use of power, space and hardware? 1) You are assuming it is only one PC. Actually, there are several. 2) Considering FLASH support in FBSD sucks, I find that I regularly need the use of a Win PC. There are also numerous applications that I just do not have available on an X-desktop. While FBSD has many fine uses, primarily in the server department, it is solely lacking as a full service desktop replacement for me. I realize that Xorg is a major cause of that problem, but that is not my concern. By the way, using a headless Win PC as a print server takes up virtually no space, its power consumption is inconsequential, and I am not even sure what other hardware, perhaps a UPS, you are referring to. Considering that I can have any number of printers hooked up easily and get higher print quality, I find it an extremely useful option. For the record, I only have three printers hooked up at my residency at present. Two of them being wireless. Attempting to get them working under FBSD became a real exercise in pain. In Windows, it was a simple two minute operation. If I am at work, and they are willing to pay me to play with something, that is one thing. However, I will be damned if I am going to waste my time when a simpler and more efficient method is available. In any case, Sulum ut suus or chacun a son gout if you prefer. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com The chief enemy of creativity is good sense. Picasso signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
2) Considering FLASH support in FBSD sucks, I find that I regularly need there are no flash support in FreeBSD as there are no support for internet explorer or Wojtek's super-ultra-super software (if that exist ;). It's not FreeBSD job at all, but programmer job of that software. It's an operating system that allow running ANY programs, with the only requirement to be in FreeBSD ELF format and using .so libraries and system calls that are in base system. Taking into account how simple is to port any program from linux to FreeBSD, and that Adobe Flash already runs linux, it's simple that Adobe simply don't want to extends their userbase to FreeBSD for almost free. So as they don't want me to use it, i don't use it. If i would consider flash so important to have separate computer for this, and in the same time accept how Adobe treats me, i will just buy it. But it have nothing to do with FreeBSD support. Sorry for long post about it, but i DO HAVE to correct your wrong statement. the use of a Win PC. There are also numerous applications that I just do not have available on an X-desktop. What you mean X desktop? You mean X Window System? While FBSD has many fine uses, primarily in the server department, it is solely lacking as a full service desktop replacement for me. I As usual it depends on needs - for me it provides all i need for operating system. But it's really off-topic By the way, using a headless Win PC as a print server takes up virtually no space, its power consumption is inconsequential, and I am not even anyway buing standard-compliant printer seems like simpler and cheaper solution for me. Even if it would be slightly more expensive, i would prefer it, to keep things simple. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Need sed to do something which sounds simple
Hi,
I need sed to do something which sounds simple, but I can't figure out
the right command. All I need to do is insert a blank after a '}' at the
end of a line if the next line begins immediately afterwards (i.e. with
no blank line between).
//abc.cpp :
int myclass::fx(int * arg)
{
if(! (isValid()))
{
return -1;
}
return ptr-fx(arg);
}
//what-i-want.cpp :
int myclass::fx(int * arg)
{
if(! (isValid()))
{
return -1;
}
return ptr-fx(arg);
}
The commands I have tried are :
i)
sed -e 's/\(}$\)\n\(^[[:space:]]*[[:alpha:]]\+\)/\1\n\n\2/' \
abc.cpp what-i-want.cpp
ii)
sed -e 's/\(}$\)\(^[[:space:]]*[[:alpha:]]\+\)/\1\n\2/' \
abc.cpp what-i-want.cpp
but obviously neither works, which is why posting this message.
Can anybody please tell me what the correct command would be like ?
Thank you
--
Regards
Manish Jain
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superpages?
maybe not new news but i just found this: http://www.h-online.com/open/FreeBSD-7-2-released-now-with-Superpages--/news/113204 It says about pages 4KB and 4MB and that it's done automatically. Two questions: 1) is it on all architectures including amd64? As amd64 supports 4KB, 2MB and 1GB pages it sounds inconsistent with the above. 2) how does this automatic selection work. By just having program with large continous data space (like squid proxy) will it put that data on 2MB pages. if it's true i would be enough reason to upgrade to 7.2 on 2 computers. thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
On Thu, 28 May 2009 14:42:31 +0200 (CEST) Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: 2) Considering FLASH support in FBSD sucks, I find that I regularly need there are no flash support in FreeBSD as there are no support for internet explorer or Wojtek's super-ultra-super software (if that exist ;). It's not FreeBSD job at all, but programmer job of that software. It's an operating system that allow running ANY programs, with the only requirement to be in FreeBSD ELF format and using .so libraries and system calls that are in base system. Taking into account how simple is to port any program from linux to FreeBSD, and that Adobe Flash already runs linux, it's simple that Adobe simply don't want to extends their userbase to FreeBSD for almost free. So as they don't want me to use it, i don't use it. If i would consider flash so important to have separate computer for this, and in the same time accept how Adobe treats me, i will just buy it. But it have nothing to do with FreeBSD support. Sorry for long post about it, but i DO HAVE to correct your wrong statement. Actually, you are a troll. the use of a Win PC. There are also numerous applications that I just do not have available on an X-desktop. What you mean X desktop? You mean X Window System? While FBSD has many fine uses, primarily in the server department, it is solely lacking as a full service desktop replacement for me. I As usual it depends on needs - for me it provides all i need for operating system. But it's really off-topic Now that is a truly stupid statement. The usefulness of any OS or applications is directly proportionate to the end users intended purpose. By the way, using a headless Win PC as a print server takes up virtually no space, its power consumption is inconsequential, and I am not even anyway buing standard-compliant printer seems like simpler and cheaper solution for me. Even if it would be slightly more expensive, i would prefer it, to keep things simple. First it is simpler and cheaper' then 'more expensive'. Nothing like a firm commitment to ambiquity. The bottom line is that using a Win PC box for a print server saves me countless hours of frustration. I know that I can purchase virtually any printer on the market today and have it up and running on the Windows box in a few minutes. Can you say the same thing about a FBSD box? Not even close. The idea behind any venture, be it personal or business, is to find the cheapest and most efficient solution for a given problem. I have found one that works just fine for me. -- Jerry ges...@yahoo.com To envision how a 4-processor system running [SunOS] 4.1.x works, think of four kids and one bathroom. John DiMarco signature.asc Description: PGP signature
RE: Is this a gmirror bug?
good but seems quite overcomplex expecially this pkg_add. why just not to compress whole filesystem(s) by tar+gzip? ? I think we must be talking about something different. In any event, what we have works quite well and I'm not about to change the process at this point... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
this, and in the same time accept how Adobe treats me, i will just buy it. But it have nothing to do with FreeBSD support. Sorry for long post about it, but i DO HAVE to correct your wrong statement. Actually, you are a troll. thank you very much. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
rsh is as secure as the communication channel. If it can be considered secure - DO USE rsh, because it's fastest as it doesn't have any encryption overhead. Are you on a 386? depends, between pentium I and core2 quad. what's a difference? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
On Thursday 28 May 2009 08:53:23 am Wojciech Puchar wrote: depends, between pentium I and core2 quad. what's a difference? Well, I can transfer 25MB/s between hosts on the LAN without my CPU ever breaking 10% CPU usage. I'm of the opinion that most people don't need to optimize for CPU in such cases when the security payoffs are so great. -- Kirk Strauser ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
On Thursday 28 May 2009 06:13:11 am Wojciech Puchar wrote: rsh is as secure as the communication channel. If it can be considered secure - DO USE rsh, because it's fastest as it doesn't have any encryption overhead. Are you on a 386? -- Kirk Strauser ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Flamewar ( was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)
Would all the children fighting in this thread please go suck your binkies and leave the list alone. This has gone on for far too long, has worn out any entertainment value it ever had and is clearly sucking up valuable bandwidth. And yes, I'm well aware you'll feel compelled to respond, so all responses will go to /dev/null. Grow up already. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. *** Check the headers before clicking on Reply. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Failure to get past a PCI bridge
Hi, I'm trying to install 7.2-RELEASE on a pretty new system (a Fujitsu RX300S5). The first obstacle was the fact that while the system has an AT-Keyboard-Controller, it ist not used (keyboard and mouse are connected via USB) and I have found that I can get past that by specifying set hint.atkbd.0.disabled=1 set hint.atkbdc.0.disabled=1 The install kernel then boots properly and reaches the Country Selection. At that point, no keyboard input is accepted. An optical mouse is off, so I assume the keyboard to be off, too. I have hooked up a serial connection to log the kernel's output (some 1000+ lines): set boot_serial=1 set boot_verbose=1 set boot_multicons=1 set console=comconsole vidconsole The following lines make me wonder if the kernel fails to get past PCI bridges and this can't reach the UHCI controllers: pcib0: ACPI Host-PCI bridge on acpi0 pcib0: could not get PCI interrupt routing table for \_SB_.CPU0 - AE_NOT_FOUND : pcib1: ACPI Host-PCI bridge on acpi0 pcib1: could not get PCI interrupt routing table for \_SB_.CPU1 - AE_NOT_FOUND : pcib2: ACPI Host-PCI bridge port 0xcf8-0xcff on acpi0 pcib2: couldn't find _ADR pcib2: trying bus number 2 pci2: ACPI PCI bus on pcib2 pci2: domain=0, physical bus=2 I talked to the guy who does the BIOS for the machine and he says that it makes no sense for the kernel to try and find the _PRT for \_SB_.CPU0 or \_SB_.CPU1! Can anyone help? I haven't been using FreeBSD since 4.2 and haven't dug through deep kernel functions for quite some time. Josef -- These are my personal views and not those of Fujitsu Technology Solutions! Josef Möllers (Pinguinpfleger bei FTS) If failure had no penalty success would not be a prize (T. Pratchett) Company Details: http://de.ts.fujitsu.com/imprint.html ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:12:16AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: FreeBSD developers know enough to avoid speaking 'on behalf' of anyone, unless they are explicitly asked to do so and it makes sense. We usually just point the users gently towards an appropriate resource: a webpage, a mailing list, or a team of more knowledgeable folks, etc. Boris did the right thing IMO by pointing at the donations pages. Two of Exactly. but it for sure wasn't what original sponsoring offer wanted. He wanted banner/logo advert on mine webpage. a) We generally accept all donations, regardless of how small they are. Even donations of a single RAM chip for nearly obsolete platforms are welcome and we try to find someone who will make good use of it. But you don't put advert for this. As you said - there is separate webpage for listing sponsors, and that's excellent. b) The donations team acts as a gateway for incoming stuff, and they have enough experience to discern genuine offers for a donation from spammy please link to my personal web site and I will make you rich scamming schemes. So what's wrong with my answer for such spammy offer? I think what most persons are reacting to are two things. 1: Many (note all) of your posts in response to questions carry what we might call a snippy, kind of put down attitude toward the questioner. Even when you are quite correct in information and criticism, it is not received well if you also say something that appears to ridicule the OP and/or other posters. This is where I wonder if it is a language issue. Do you realize that you are jamming people in the manner of your posts? Take care of people's sensitivities when you post. When in doubt about how something might be received, then don't put in those words - just stick to the plain and dull technical information. 2: Although I have seen a number of valuable responses posted under your address (eg presumably helpfully posted by you), sometimes you seem to jump in to a question or thread when you really do not know the answer or really do not have anything to add. This makes the forum look foolish and it also tends to discourage those who have the answer or can make some meaningful contribution from getting in to the foray. They do not have the time or inclination to get in to a flame war. We all have read a question wrong or misunderstood it and made a midguided response. I certainly have gritted my teeth when reading some responses I made as they came back from the list server. But you seem to have a penchant for making posts that have a decided appearance of being just for the sake of saying something rather than making a positive contribution to the topic of the OP. So, while it is true that you have the right and freedom to post on this unmoderated list, the adult thing to do is to take responsibility for yourself, to think about the significance and quality of your post before sending it off. Ask the question, 'does it improve the situation or will it just annoy people and contribute nothing of technical value'. Then make the choice in a manner that will improve the quality of the exchange. Remember that we all screw up, some of us more often than most, but none of us need our noses rubbed in it or to be jeered at. Thank you, jerry ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
On 28/5/09 15:04, Kirk Strauser wrote: On Thursday 28 May 2009 08:53:23 am Wojciech Puchar wrote: depends, between pentium I and core2 quad. what's a difference? Well, I can transfer 25MB/s between hosts on the LAN without my CPU ever breaking 10% CPU usage. I'm of the opinion that most people don't need to optimize for CPU in such cases when the security payoffs are so great. There is also the option of the HPN patches (http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/ included as options in the openssh-portable port) which allows a none cypher so you have the security of the encrypted key authentication but no encryption overhead for transferring files. However the OP doesnt seem to want to transfer files over it so the encryption overhead will be pretty minimal anyway. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: superpages?
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 02:50:16PM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: maybe not new news but i just found this: http://www.h-online.com/open/FreeBSD-7-2-released-now-with-Superpages--/news/113204 It says about pages 4KB and 4MB and that it's done automatically. Two questions: 1) is it on all architectures including amd64? As amd64 supports 4KB, 2MB and 1GB pages it sounds inconsistent with the above. 2) how does this automatic selection work. By just having program with large continous data space (like squid proxy) will it put that data on 2MB pages. The following excerpt from: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.2R/relnotes-detailed.html may be helpful: [amd64, i386] The FreeBSD virtual memory subsystem now supports fully transparent use of superpages for application memory; application memory pages are dynamically promoted to or demoted from superpages without any modification to application code. This change offers the benefit of large page sizes such as improved virtual memory efficiency and reduced TLB (translation lookaside buffer) misses without downsides like application changes and virtual memory inflexibility. This is disabled by default and can be enabled by setting a loader tunable vm.pmap.pg_ps_enabled to 1. if it's true i would be enough reason to upgrade to 7.2 on 2 computers. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Need sed to do something which sounds simple
--On Thursday, May 28, 2009 07:48:36 -0500 Manish Jain
invalid.poin...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I need sed to do something which sounds simple, but I can't figure out
the right command. All I need to do is insert a blank after a '}' at the
end of a line if the next line begins immediately afterwards (i.e. with
no blank line between).
//abc.cpp :
int myclass::fx(int * arg)
{
if(! (isValid()))
{
return -1;
}
return ptr-fx(arg);
}
//what-i-want.cpp :
int myclass::fx(int * arg)
{
if(! (isValid()))
{
return -1;
}
return ptr-fx(arg);
}
The commands I have tried are :
i)
sed -e 's/\(}$\)\n\(^[[:space:]]*[[:alpha:]]\+\)/\1\n\n\2/' \
abc.cpp what-i-want.cpp
ii)
sed -e 's/\(}$\)\(^[[:space:]]*[[:alpha:]]\+\)/\1\n\2/' \
abc.cpp what-i-want.cpp
but obviously neither works, which is why posting this message.
Can anybody please tell me what the correct command would be like ?
Seems like this would work to add a space only to lines where the next line
only has a new line :
sed ' /\}$/ { N /}$\n\n/ { s/\}$\n/\} $\n/} } ' file
If the possibility exists that the new line might have spaces as well, you
could do this:
sed ' /\}$/ { N /}$\n\n/ { s/\}$\n[ ]?/\} $\n/} } '
Note: I haven't tested this, so it may require some modification. Read this
page on dealing with multiple lines in sed to gain further understanding -
http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html
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Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
On Thu, 28 May 2009 12:09:57 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: The problem is that most buyers are more happy when they get added value for free like tons of CD's Even if they never use it. Manufacturers do what market required, no matter how dumb it is. Those who didn't already failed. The worst solution always prevails and People want crap, they get crap seem to have established as laws of the market. As windows user may get scared hearing the word unix, [...] No no, UNIX doesn't exist, and it's outdated anyway, just like mainframes. :-) actually i never used things like cups, turboprint, whatever. Me neither, just apsfilter. i just run lpr to print postscript file, or print directly from programs through lpr I'm happy to keep on doing so now, too. :-) There are lot of compliant second-hand printers for 100$. I got two HP Laserjet 4000 duplex printers some years ago, for 100 Euro (both together), including so much toner that they're still working - and I'm printing a lot. For example i have HP LaserJet 4, which printed 85000 pages when i bought it, and i printed over 15000. My Laserjet 4000, my first own laser printer, has already stopped couinting pages, it shows 1500 pages or so and doesn't count any further. I've treated it very unkindly for more than 12 years now - and it keeps on working. And it works flawlessy, so i don't have new printer every year. That's intended by the marked (because users intend so). Buying new printers all day long is normal, so you always have a top of the line printer. :-) exactly. [CUPS] not needed for printing. At least for the many printers that don't conform to standards, if makes printing a bit easier. Nice administration through web interface, lots of autodetect... users like this. :-) (On the other hand, it's problematic to add a parallel printer with CUPS that isn't attached to the system - bad idea in my opinion, just because the printer isn't available AT THE MOMENT should not disable me to select it.) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
On Thu, 28 May 2009 12:15:22 +0100, Chris Rees utis...@googlemail.com wrote: Also, I think it's a bad idea to leave money lying round like that. That's why we have banks. More layers. No. We have benks because they make it easier to steal people's money more silently, so they notice when it's too late. Special offer from Lehmann brothers. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: ANNOUNCE: OpenOffice.org 3.1 (i386) packages now available
On 5/28/09, Manolis Kiagias sonic200...@gmail.com wrote: Paul B. Mahol wrote: Are extensions working for you? After little exploration this is already known problem: ports/129308 Haven't tried extensions (rarely use any) but thanks for letting us know. Was this working on 3.01? Never tried(..) But it is know problem on =7.0 and there is at least two PR related to such issue. ports/127946 appears to have working solution. -- Paul ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
On Thu, 28 May 2009 14:42:31 +0200 (CEST), Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: While FBSD has many fine uses, primarily in the server department, it is solely lacking as a full service desktop replacement for me. I As usual it depends on needs - for me it provides all i need for operating system. But it's really off-topic I may add that I'm using FreeBSD exclusively (!) on my desktop since version 4.0 without any problems. I just don't describe the use desktop with runs 'Flash' flawlessly. As Wojciech siad, it completely depends on what you are going to do with your system. The FreeBSD OS is just the basis for this, not the entire means. By the way, using a headless Win PC as a print server takes up virtually no space, its power consumption is inconsequential, and I am not even anyway buing standard-compliant printer seems like simpler and cheaper solution for me. It's worth mentioning that you need to buy along with the printer: the PC and the license for Windows. I'm not sure what this costs altogether, but maybe it justifies buying an office-class printer that is fully standard-compliant and will serve you more years than a non-printer would. Even if it would be slightly more expensive, i would prefer it, to keep things simple. Doesn't even need to be more expensive. It just depends on how much time (and here we are again) you spend on researching and evaluating which product is the best for your particular needs. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
On Thu, 28 May 2009 09:09:41 -0400, Jerry ges...@yahoo.com wrote: Actually, you are a troll. Actually, I allow myself to tell you that this is untrue. :-) He's right. FreeBSD is an advanced operating system that provides basic means to drivers and applications (and to do some other things). So it enables application programmers to write their programs for this platform. If they refuse to, why blame the system? As it has truthfully been mentioned, it would be possible for Adobe to release a native version of Flash for FreeBSD, even if they don't put their sources into BSDL. But they don't want to. (It's their right to do so, of course.) Now that is a truly stupid statement. The usefulness of any OS or applications is directly proportionate to the end users intended purpose. No. The end user doesn't use the operating system, he uses his application programs (which, of course, depend on the operating system in many ways). That's how the usefulness of an application can be judged. The usefulness of an operating system is to be considered in terms of how good it provides ressources, documentation, inter- faces, standards, compatibility maybe. And in this case FreeBSD is excellent. The bottom line is that using a Win PC box for a print server saves me countless hours of frustration. Then it's completely fine for you, no disagreement. The question is - if you're interested in it: What have you learned? How does it help you in more difficult situations where you are presented to a specific setting and have to work with means on board (Bordmittel)? I know that I can purchase virtually any printer on the market today and have it up and running on the Windows box in a few minutes. Until a new printer doesn't support your Windows version anymore, or your new !Windows version doesn't support your printer anymore. Can you say the same thing about a FBSD box? Not even close. This is intended to be that way. The printer manufactureres and the majority of their customers decided it. The idea behind any venture, be it personal or business, is to find the cheapest and most efficient solution for a given problem. I have found one that works just fine for me. Then again, it's okay for you, even if I don't consider it cheap (exta PC purchase, PC running, license) or most efficient (exta PC needed). -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Is this a gmirror bug?
On Thu, 28 May 2009 06:12:25 -0700, Peter Steele pste...@webmail.maxiscale.com wrote: good but seems quite overcomplex expecially this pkg_add. why just not to compress whole filesystem(s) by tar+gzip? ? I think we must be talking about something different. In any event, what we have works quite well and I'm not about to change the process at this point... I think he's refering to dumping the partitions of an already installed master system into files, and then restoring them into the partitions of the other systems as intended. This would surely be easier than to pkg_add the software needed on the other systems... -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
On Thu, 28 May 2009 09:04:43 -0500, Kirk Strauser k...@strauser.com wrote: Well, I can transfer 25MB/s between hosts on the LAN without my CPU ever breaking 10% CPU usage. I'm of the opinion that most people don't need to optimize for CPU in such cases when the security payoffs are so great. As Wojciech pointed out correctly before, security is only as good as the weakest point. Of course you can add security by using SSH, and it's definitely indicated when doing things via the Internet. As long as you are inside your own net, covered from the Internet, with only trustworthy machines inside it, you could even use telnet. Connecting systems by a security tunnel that already adds means of cryptography, and you consider this tunnel to be secure enough, the above situation applies. But you can always SSH inside a security tunnel, if you want. It just increases security. The more the better. :-) At the point where this the more generates so much overhead that things are lagging, stalling or just work much too slow, or slower than they should, you can re-thing the situation. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Failure to get past a PCI bridge
On Thu, 28 May 2009 16:24:00 +0200, Josef Moellers josef.moell...@ts.fujitsu.com wrote: The install kernel then boots properly and reaches the Country Selection. At that point, no keyboard input is accepted. An optical mouse is off, so I assume the keyboard to be off, too. Not neccessarily. Check the blinkenlights with caps lock, num lock and scroll lock (if present). If optical mouse doesn't have any light, it's nearly obvious that it doesn't get power from the USB port. This doesn't need to imply that the keyboard is off, too. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
2009/5/28 Polytropon free...@edvax.de: On Thu, 28 May 2009 09:04:43 -0500, Kirk Strauser k...@strauser.com wrote: Well, I can transfer 25MB/s between hosts on the LAN without my CPU ever breaking 10% CPU usage. I'm of the opinion that most people don't need to optimize for CPU in such cases when the security payoffs are so great. As Wojciech pointed out correctly before, security is only as good as the weakest point. Of course you can add security by using SSH, and it's definitely indicated when doing things via the Internet. As long as you are inside your own net, covered from the Internet, with only trustworthy machines inside it, you could even use telnet. Connecting systems by a security tunnel that already adds means of cryptography, and you consider this tunnel to be secure enough, the above situation applies. But you can always SSH inside a security tunnel, if you want. It just increases security. The more the better. :-) At the point where this the more generates so much overhead that things are lagging, stalling or just work much too slow, or slower than they should, you can re-thing the situation. -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... I know I sound like Theo, but security and reliability are ALWAYS more important than overhead or speed. Always. Since the OP asked for quote How could I nicely and securely connect from the script on the web server to the file server, in order to edit the quota? It should be nice and secure and without password. /quote He even said 'secure' twice. There is a web server involved, meaning possibility of compromise (we all know how secure web servers tend to be), and then one has access to network traffic for sniffing. Also, if this is for quotas, then surely the people accessing the server via *NFS* are inside the network? Chris -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in a mailing list? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 06:31:41PM +0200, Polytropon wrote:
As it has truthfully been mentioned, it would be possible for
Adobe to release a native version of Flash for FreeBSD, even
if they don't put their sources into BSDL. But they don't want
to. (It's their right to do so, of course.)
More likely, they simply decided that supporting our OS was not worth
it, because we don't have the user base of Win32 or Linux.
Can you say the same thing about a FBSD
box? Not even close.
This is intended to be that way. The printer manufactureres and
the majority of their customers decided it.
Basically put: you get what you pay for. Classic (non-win) printers do
have circuitry on board to process PCL or PostScript, whereas
el-cheapo win-printers come without this circuitry, and delegate
pagesetting to a software driver. Same for modems vs. win-modems.
Of course, all this is well-known for a long time now. But what's
worrying, is that economics of scale make it increasingly difficult to
locate classic printers (and modems). Fortunatly, they are still being
made here and there, but for how long? What will we do a few years
down the road in an environment where win-${device}s are ubiquitous?
Ultimately, we'll need a full-featured windowsolator a la NDISwrapper
et al., so that we can use the Windows-only drivers natively on
FreeBSD/{i386,amd64}. At least x86-based systems will then work,
although ARM and other platforms would still be left out in the cold.
-cpghost.
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MAC_PORTACL Not Allowing Non-Super User Access to Port
Hello, Full documentation here: http://blog.cykyc.org/2009/05/macportacl-and-no-love.html Gist of it is that I enabled MAC_PORTACL and MAC, rebuilt the kernel and installed it for testing. I was not able to get a non-super user to open up a privileged port, though. What am I doing wrong? [2136] ~ sysctl -a security.mac security.mac.max_slots: 4 security.mac.version: 3 security.mac.mmap_revocation_via_cow: 0 security.mac.mmap_revocation: 1 security.mac.portacl.rules: security.mac.portacl.port_high: 1023 security.mac.portacl.autoport_exempt: 1 security.mac.portacl.suser_exempt: 1 security.mac.portacl.enabled: 1 [2136] ~ id uid=1001(foo) gid=0(wheel) groups=0(wheel) [2136] ~ sudo sysctl security.mac.portacl.rules=uid:1001:tcp:80 Password: security.mac.portacl.rules: - uid:1001:tcp:80 [2136] ~ nc -l 80 nc: Permission denied TIA, Jon ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: RTL8111-GR driver for FreeBSD6.4
Yep. The 6.4 has the same thing. It looks like it did work. We had the Intel MB that had an Intel NIC and it was not supported on 6.4. I had ordered up the same MB with the Realtek NIC and just got it this morning. Seems to support it fine. Thanks for the posts. Troy Beisigl On May 28, 2009, at 2:14 AM, Wojciech Puchar wrote: says it support RTL8111 but i have FreeBSD 7.1 I have a 6.4 machine (about to be retired). On that machine, man 4 re says it supports the RTL8111S, but does not mention the RTL8111GR. My guess is that in 7.1 it too says only about S, i assumed that S and GR are only different chip revisions/different functionality, maybe one have builtin PHY other external etc. etc. but it's software compatible. That's usual naming scheme of chips, but of course there may be exceptions. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Is this a gmirror bug?
I think he's refering to dumping the partitions of an already installed master system into files, and then restoring them into the partitions of the other systems as intended. This would surely be easier than to pkg_add the software needed on the other systems... We do follow that general mechanism, as far as cloning an existing system is concerned. You still have to create the original system though, and that's what I was referring to... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: superpages?
On Thu, 28 May 2009 17:17:38 +0200 cpghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote: The following excerpt from: http://www.freebsd.org/releases/7.2R/relnotes-detailed.html may be helpful: [amd64, i386] The FreeBSD virtual memory subsystem now supports fully transparent use of superpages for application memory; application memory pages are dynamically promoted to or demoted from superpages without any modification to application code. This change offers the benefit of large page sizes such as improved virtual memory efficiency and reduced TLB (translation lookaside buffer) misses without downsides like application changes and virtual memory inflexibility. Just out of idle curiosity, how does it work at the page queue level. Most of the references to superpages are in pmap.c and vm_reserv.c. I don't see any special handling in the pageout daemon where the inactive and active queues are handled. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
On Thu, 28 May 2009 19:09:09 +0200, cpghost cpgh...@cordula.ws wrote:
Basically put: you get what you pay for.
That was true in the past, but today, it's much more complicated
than just regularing an article's quality over the price. You
can - without any problems - get crap for (too) much money. You
pay for a brand name, or a standard's name, but you get crap.
I've seen a good example recently: A DVD recorder built (or
at least sold) by a company name most users are familiar with,
which quitted working after 1 year of regular use, and a
similar recorder by a manufacturer that's not so widely known,
which still works today. The known one was nearly 100 Euro
more expensive than the unknown one.
Classic (non-win) printers do
have circuitry on board to process PCL or PostScript, whereas
el-cheapo win-printers come without this circuitry, and delegate
pagesetting to a software driver.
Exactly. Even el-anachronismo dotmatrix printers could turn
simple text, transmitted to the parallel port, into printed
form. Today's el-stupido printers can't.
Can't print easily, but pretend to be more than they are (in
terms of overall quality, to which I add support for standards
or at least existance of a proper BSD driver): The include
a printer, a scanner, a fax machine and who knows what else...
Same for modems vs. win-modems.
Exacltly. Those leave more to do for the computer that controls
it, and generates much more work for the processor, while the
easier variant would just be to transfer the data to the
device and let it print, even if it's just PCL.
Of course, all this is well-known for a long time now. But what's
worrying, is that economics of scale make it increasingly difficult to
locate classic printers (and modems).
Yes. In most cases, you stick to 2nd hand office-class equipment.
It's bigger, may make more noise, but the history teaches that
it makes you more happy. :-)
Fortunatly, they are still being
made here and there, but for how long?
Customers do control this. A nice example are the IBM model M
keyboards. There are manufacturers that provide the quality and
the layout (without advertising keys) of these keyboards. (I'm
glad to own some of the original IBM ones, they will live longer
than I will.)
What will we do a few years
down the road in an environment where win-${device}s are ubiquitous?
Scenario A is to keep using used older equipment and to keep it
running by adequate means.
Scenario B is to use means of emulation and virtualization.
But more likely, this won't happen.
History has told, future will tell.
Ultimately, we'll need a full-featured windowsolator a la NDISwrapper
et al., so that we can use the Windows-only drivers natively on
FreeBSD/{i386,amd64}.
That would conform to scenario B, but I'm sure we won't have to
think about it very much, because Windows is not the world. :-)
At least x86-based systems will then work,
although ARM and other platforms would still be left out in the cold.
Does Windows run on ARM? I'm sure UNIX does.
With the upcoming interest in ARM-based Netbooks 'n stuff I think
it will be less and less important. Today, Linux is more interesting
to industry and to enterprises than Windows is. I do see this in
Germany: Windows is considered more and more to be old-fashioned
(not very much in fact, but slightly increasing).
I hope this trend continues, so printer manufacturers (and those
that built other stuff used together with computers) will change
their attitude towards interoperability and standards.
--
Polytropon
From Magdeburg, Germany
Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
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Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
On Thu, 28 May 2009 18:04:23 +0100, Chris Rees utis...@googlemail.com wrote: [The OP] even said 'secure' twice. There is a web server involved, meaning possibility of compromise (we all know how secure web servers tend to be), and then one has access to network traffic for sniffing. Also, if this is for quotas, then surely the people accessing the server via *NFS* are inside the network? Yes, I agree to that, but it doesn't stand in any contradiction to what I said, or what Wojciech said. So for the OP, security is needed. As it has been mentioned, using encryption tunnels is one (valid) means to do this, SSH is another, and both of them can even be combined. If the environment is that insecure that it doesn't allow rsh / rlogin, then DO NOT USE IT. But if it is, why not? At least, the OP's description involving web servers doesn't justify using just rsh / rlogin, and not telnet, of course. :-) -- Polytropon From Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
character sets for file names on ufs?
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Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 06:00:56PM +0200, Fabian Keil wrote: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: 3. Drafts for a possible redesign of your project's website current webpage is excellent - no need to :) Most important - it works in every browser. Actually it's known to render poorly in a lot of browser configurations: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=www/91539 My only problem has been that the FreeBSD site won't load if I'm using an SSH proxy (even though both the local machine and the proxy machine are FreeBSD systems, ironically). -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Paul Graham: SUVs are gross because they're the solution to a gross problem. (How to make minivans look more masculine.) pgpZJzyqE4d3s.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 05:44:29PM +0100, Chris Rees wrote: 2009/5/27 Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl: It is NOT an opinion that you were rude in your reply, and it is NOT an opinion that it's not your place to advise on how much constitutes an 'acceptable' or 'sufficient' donation. You were just plain wrong in doing so, and you should either quietly stop replying defending your actions, or even perhaps admit you were wrong and apologise. just another funny post - it's not an opinion, it's a fact BECAUSE YOU DECIDED SO. Why did you (attempt to) answer the question in the first place then? Maybe he's trolling. Look how successful he was at instigating a flame war. . . . -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Bill McKibben: The laws of Congress and the laws of physics have grown increasingly divergent, and the laws of physics are not likely to yield. pgp51FXEmpwTC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
Well, I can transfer 25MB/s between hosts on the LAN without my CPU ever breaking 10% CPU usage. probably true, i never checked actually. i just don't understand such reasoning that you have to waste (even small) CPU power without sense. For example local private LAN or already-encrypted VPN network - which is common case in my case. Actually i don't use ssh at all except rare cases when i help someone else. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: character sets for file names on ufs?
In the last episode (May 28), Tom Worster said: what character set/encoding is used for file names in freebsd when i have a default ufs fs? Whatever you want; ufs filenames have no assumed character set. zfs defaults to the same rules, but can enforce only valid utf8 filenames if the utf8only property is set. -- Dan Nelson dnel...@allantgroup.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:57:57PM +0200, Peter Boosten wrote: Wojciech Puchar wrote: exactly does. i just don't catch why he - while stopping using it because of forum - still read and posts here. None of your concern: this is just what everybody is writing about. Whether someone is using FreeBSD or not, and reading here or not, is irrelevant to most (and probably to all) discussions going on here, and it is my understanding (and my opinion, which is different than yours on this matter I suspect) that your commenting on this is mostly unappreciated. Actually, that's technically your estimation -- not your opinion. It may be correct or incorrect (and if it's incorrect, then I'm incorrect too, because I have come to the same conclusion), but the fact it's not a settled matter doesn't mean it's opinion. The term opinion has a very specific meaning, and this isn't it. Saying *you* don't appreciate it would be a matter of opinion. Saying you think most people don't appreciate it would be an estimation of the popularity of a given opinion -- but not an opinion itself. I don't mean to bust your balls on this, so to speak. I just want to offer my thoughts on the matter of what does and does not constitute opinion so that people who disdain what others observe but cannot necessarily prove will not find it as easy to dismiss things as mere opinion. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Anonymous: Why do we never have time to do it right, but always have time to do it over? pgpdiGL52BNFa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: MAC_PORTACL Not Allowing Non-Super User Access to Port
Nevermind, forgot to set the following: net.inet.ip.portrange.reservedlow: 0 net.inet.ip.portrange.reservedhigh: 0 With these set, portacl is working as expected. On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:55 AM, Jon Passki jon.pas...@hursk.com wrote: Hello, Full documentation here: http://blog.cykyc.org/2009/05/macportacl-and-no-love.html Gist of it is that I enabled MAC_PORTACL and MAC, rebuilt the kernel and installed it for testing. I was not able to get a non-super user to open up a privileged port, though. What am I doing wrong? [2136] ~ sysctl -a security.mac security.mac.max_slots: 4 security.mac.version: 3 security.mac.mmap_revocation_via_cow: 0 security.mac.mmap_revocation: 1 security.mac.portacl.rules: security.mac.portacl.port_high: 1023 security.mac.portacl.autoport_exempt: 1 security.mac.portacl.suser_exempt: 1 security.mac.portacl.enabled: 1 [2136] ~ id uid=1001(foo) gid=0(wheel) groups=0(wheel) [2136] ~ sudo sysctl security.mac.portacl.rules=uid:1001:tcp:80 Password: security.mac.portacl.rules: - uid:1001:tcp:80 [2136] ~ nc -l 80 nc: Permission denied TIA, Jon -- Cheers, Jon Passki, Partner The Hursk Group, LLC Obvia conspicimus, nubem pellente Mathesi. e: jon.pas...@hursk.com ph: 651/222.3020 cal: http://www.google.com/calendar/hosted/hursk.com/embed?src=jon.passki%40hursk.com pgp: 1BB0 A946 927B 93C3 ED6A 0466 6692 6C2C 84BE 4122 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 06:12:11PM -0400, Jerry McAllister wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 02:38:46PM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: Of course - ban it! Just my 2c... Snotty comments like this in a public forum, is exactly why I no longer use FreeBSD. Just about everything in these mailing lists turns If you stopped using FreeBSD BECAUSE OF FORUM, congratulations ;) This means that OS functionality is not important for you at all! Well, that certainly doesn't follow. Actually, that one does. If you use FreeBSD because of the OS functionality/reliability, etc then trashy noise on the questions list wouldn't make a difference in your choice. If you stop using it because you don't like the noise, then functionality is not your high priority.Maybe saying 'at all' is over the top.But, anyway, the noise is getting tiresome - even mine. False dichotomy. It is possible to value both the quality of the community support *and* the characteristics of the OS, and for sufficient problems in one to overcome the benefits of the other. It's not a matter of *only* the community discussion venue *or* the technical characteristics of the OS to matter. Both can matter and, when one fails spectacularly enough for a particular person's needs, it is perfectly reasonable to expect that person to choose a different OS based on a better (for his/her purposes) combination of OS and community quality. I, of course, tend to find the FreeBSD community quite wonderful, as OS communities go -- aside from one particular fly in the ointment. Combine that with the excellence of the documentation and the technical (and licensing) benefits of the OS itself, and I'm happy being here. I can understand how some of the failures in the community to be a perfect ray of sunshine might put off some users, though, without immediately jumping to the conclusion that those users don't give a crap about the quality of the OS at all. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Joel Ryder: Ask Ren is definitely faster than Ask Jeeves. Jeeves doesn't give you an attitude though, so I guess it's a trade off. pgpD3kAfnVc4X.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:57:57PM +0200, Peter Boosten wrote: Wojciech Puchar wrote: exactly does. i just don't catch why he - while stopping using it because of forum - still read and posts here. None of your concern: this is just what everybody is writing about. Whether someone is using FreeBSD or not, and reading here or not, is irrelevant to most (and probably to all) discussions going on here, and it is my understanding (and my opinion, which is different than yours on this matter I suspect) that your commenting on this is mostly unappreciated. Actually, that's technically your estimation -- not your opinion. It may be correct or incorrect (and if it's incorrect, then I'm incorrect too, because I have come to the same conclusion), but the fact it's not a settled matter doesn't mean it's opinion. The term opinion has a very specific meaning, and this isn't it. Saying *you* don't appreciate it would be a matter of opinion. Saying you think most people don't appreciate it would be an estimation of the popularity of a given opinion -- but not an opinion itself. Huh? I don't mean to bust your balls on this, so to speak. I just want to offer my thoughts on the matter of what does and does not constitute opinion so that people who disdain what others observe but cannot necessarily prove will not find it as easy to dismiss things as mere opinion. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Anonymous: Why do we never have time to do it right, but always have time to do it over? -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Sponsoring FreeBSD
OMFG Can someone PLEASE just shoot me now!!! How much do I have to pay to make this thread and all the worthless babble therein go away forever? -Original Message- From: owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Neal Hogan Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 2:15 PM To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 09:57:57PM +0200, Peter Boosten wrote: Wojciech Puchar wrote: exactly does. i just don't catch why he - while stopping using it because of forum - still read and posts here. None of your concern: this is just what everybody is writing about. Whether someone is using FreeBSD or not, and reading here or not, is irrelevant to most (and probably to all) discussions going on here, and it is my understanding (and my opinion, which is different than yours on this matter I suspect) that your commenting on this is mostly unappreciated. Actually, that's technically your estimation -- not your opinion. It may be correct or incorrect (and if it's incorrect, then I'm incorrect too, because I have come to the same conclusion), but the fact it's not a settled matter doesn't mean it's opinion. The term opinion has a very specific meaning, and this isn't it. Saying *you* don't appreciate it would be a matter of opinion. Saying you think most people don't appreciate it would be an estimation of the popularity of a given opinion -- but not an opinion itself. Huh? I don't mean to bust your balls on this, so to speak. I just want to offer my thoughts on the matter of what does and does not constitute opinion so that people who disdain what others observe but cannot necessarily prove will not find it as easy to dismiss things as mere opinion. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Anonymous: Why do we never have time to do it right, but always have time to do it over? -- www.nealhogan.net www.lambdaserver.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org font size=1 div style='border:none;border-bottom:double windowtext 2.25pt;padding:0in 0in 1.0pt 0in' /div This email is intended to be reviewed by only the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, use, dissemination, disclosure or copying of this email and its attachments, if any, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify the sender by return email and delete this email from your system. /font ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
Actually, you are a troll. Actually, I allow myself to tell you that this is untrue. :-) but i said thank you for such nomination. i feel proud :) I'm waiting for certified professional FreeBSD Troll (TM) printed and laminated certificate! should i give a snail-mail address? He's right. FreeBSD is an advanced operating system that provides basic means to drivers and applications (and to do some other things). So it enables application programmers to write their programs for this platform. If they refuse to, why blame the system? I don't know. FreeBSD folks actually did A LOT OF WORK that they wasn't even supposed to do, and did it for free! Instead of hearing Thank you, you made it at least partially working! they here FreeBSD FLASH support is a CRAP. Not polite and really they deserve better reward. As it has truthfully been mentioned, it would be possible for ...this parts removed as i fully agree and have nothing to add... Until a new printer doesn't support your Windows version anymore, or your new !Windows version doesn't support your printer anymore. It was his problem, and just don't care about him. But i really hate that such lazy people that prefer buying new computers instead of thinking - tries to TEACH others that it's the right way to go. Being lazy is bad. Not thinking is bad. I am sometimes lazy and not always think as good as i would like, but i don't tell people it is OK! It is not! ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: character sets for file names on ufs?
On Thursday 28 May 2009 19:51:45 Tom Worster wrote: what character set/encoding is used for file names in freebsd when i have a default ufs fs? tom None. UFS is 8 bit clean, so you can basically use it with any 8bit character set. No encoding is enforced and no conversion is ever applied to file names on UFS. If you set your locale to UTF-8, you can use unicode characters in filenames. For instance: % touch ⡍⠜⠇⠑⠹ ⠺⠁⠎ ⠁⠎ ⠙⠑⠁⠙ ⠁⠎ ⠁ % ls ⡍⠜⠇⠑⠹ ⠺⠁⠎ ⠁⠎ ⠙⠑⠁⠙ ⠁⠎ ⠁ % rm ⡍⠜⠇⠑⠹\ ⠺⠁⠎\ ⠁⠎\ ⠙⠑⠁⠙\ ⠁⠎\ ⠁\ % (I don't have a clue what that means btw) -- Pieter de Goeje ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: www.freebsd.org problems (was: Sponsoring FreeBSD)
Chad Perrin per...@apotheon.com wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 06:00:56PM +0200, Fabian Keil wrote: Wojciech Puchar woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl wrote: 3. Drafts for a possible redesign of your project's website current webpage is excellent - no need to :) Most important - it works in every browser. Actually it's known to render poorly in a lot of browser configurations: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=www/91539 My only problem has been that the FreeBSD site won't load if I'm using an SSH proxy (even though both the local machine and the proxy machine are FreeBSD systems, ironically). Interesting. I'm reaching the website through SSH without problems: Firefox - Privoxy - ssh - sshd - www.freebsd.org In related news, I've been using a Privoxy filter to fix the worst rendering issues for several years now, and I'm considering adding it to the port as well. After all it doesn't look like www/91539 is going to get fixed any time soon. As the archives will show, the problems were already known before the redesign went live, but nobody cared back then either. Fabian signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
good as the weakest point. Of course you can add security by using SSH, and it's definitely indicated when doing things via the Internet. As long as you are inside your own net, covered from the Internet, with only trustworthy machines inside it, you could even use telnet. which i actually do. even more! i ALWAYS change configuration to allow root login from telnet rsh and ssh which is disabled by default. Even 15 seconds of thinking is enough to understand that logging to other user and then su - gives completely no extra security. And yes - i do log as root by insecure rsh and telnet. The only think you should be aware is to not do it when connection is from outside and insecure. This case i actually don't use even ssh if it's not mine computer. How can i be sure that ssh is secure, but keylogging isn't installed? ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 11:12:16AM +0200, Wojciech Puchar wrote: FreeBSD developers know enough to avoid speaking 'on behalf' of anyone, unless they are explicitly asked to do so and it makes sense. We usually just point the users gently towards an appropriate resource: a webpage, a mailing list, or a team of more knowledgeable folks, etc. Boris did the right thing IMO by pointing at the donations pages. Two of Exactly. but it for sure wasn't what original sponsoring offer wanted. He wanted banner/logo advert on mine webpage. That was not what was stated in the email that started this thread. Why do you relentlessly ignore not only the actual wording of the original email, but also the corrections offered by others? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] Quoth Yasir Arafat on religious wars: You're basically killing each other to see who's got the better imaginary friend. pgpUATjH6IVvu.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Is this a gmirror bug?
? I think we must be talking about something different. In any event, what we have works quite well and I'm not about to change the process at this point... we already talked on priv and everything got explained :) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
I know I sound like Theo, but security and reliability are ALWAYS more important than overhead or speed. I really agree with You. That's why every admin (and user too) should think about what is he/she doing, instead of repeating the same mantras about security/insecurity of something. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
But if it is, why not? At least, the OP's description involving some time ago i heard from linux user that rshd is removed at all because it's insecure. Just got another example how good decision i made moving away from it. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Canon printer and TurboPrint
That was true in the past, but today, it's much more complicated than just regularing an article's quality over the price. You can - without any problems - get crap for (too) much money. You pay for a brand name, or a standard's name, but you get crap. HP products (printers, cameras, and other office equipment) are really perfect examples. I mean new HP products, not those 10-20 years ago where HP was expensive but really good. Exactly. Even el-anachronismo dotmatrix printers could turn simple text, transmitted to the parallel port, into printed form. Today's el-stupido printers can't. I don't agree it's bad idea of removing processing hardware from printer. It's good idea as such processing is a blink of eye for today computers. The problem is that there is NO STANDARD for raw bitmap printers. If it would - then just adding this to ghostscript would be few hours of work. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: character sets for file names on ufs?
what character set/encoding is used for file names in freebsd when i have a default ufs fs? it just write whatever program will give it. UFS does not recode anything. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Remotely edit user disk quota
On Thursday 28 May 2009 02:34:02 pm Wojciech Puchar wrote: And yes - i do log as root by insecure rsh and telnet. OK, I'm now promoting you to batshit insane. Seriously, there's no excuse for running telnet - even in a secure (ha!) environment - when so much better alternatives exist. Let me shoot you a hypothetical: your webserver gets compromised. The intruder uses a little ARP poisoning to launch a MITM attack between your workstation and the database server. He comes back a couple hours later and uses your plaintext root password to make a backup of your database for his personal use. Oh, but that could never happen to you, because you run a PtP VPN between every pair of machines on your network, said network being separated from the Internet by a 2 meter air gap and a Doberman Pinscher. Seriously, using telnet today is flat-out stupid, and I'd fire you in a second if you brought that level of bullheaded incompetence into my company. /rant -- Kirk Strauser ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
Re: Sponsoring FreeBSD
Actually it's known to render poorly in a lot of browser configurations: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=www/91539 My only problem has been that the FreeBSD site won't load if I'm using an SSH proxy (even though both the local machine and the proxy machine are FreeBSD systems, ironically). could you please tell how do you set up ssh proxy for that? while i don't use ssh proxy that way, i really see no reason why it may not work. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
RE: Sponsoring FreeBSD
OMFG Can someone PLEASE just shoot me now!!! How much do I have to pay to make this thread and all the worthless babble therein go away forever? no way, but please think about financing, or even better gathering few people and convincing core team for setting up official MODERATED list. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org
