Re: Custom ISOs

2009-09-08 Thread Manolis Kiagias
Tim Judd wrote:
> I'm not sure if this is normal or not, but I'm getting <5.0KB/sec for
> two separate downloads each download speed for both the XFCE and Gnome
> DVD ISOs.
>
>   

Weird...
> I am aware that the site is sitting on wikidot.com, and not on
> dev-urandom.com anymore, I was wondering if there's a better place I
> can grab them from.  I have someone interested in BSD, and was trying
> to download all options and let him pick.
>
>   

Not really. Only the web pages are on wikidot, the files are still
hosted in dev-urandom.com

> With this download, it'll take  a day or more to download it, then
> the time to meet up with this guy.
>
>
> Any light shed on the slow downloads?
>
>   
Don't know, but if it is not resolved I'll ping Glen Barber who owns
this space.
I can't test the speed right now myself but will do later and report back.

I do have some alternate space as well, so if the worse comes to the
worst, I could upload one of the ISOs there. It is currently mostly full
but I believe I can trash some things.

> Thanks again, Manolis for ALL your hard work, it is very much appreciated.
>
>   

Thanks Tim, I thoroughly enjoyed creating this stuff.
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Custom ISOs

2009-09-08 Thread Tim Judd
I'm not sure if this is normal or not, but I'm getting <5.0KB/sec for
two separate downloads each download speed for both the XFCE and Gnome
DVD ISOs.


I am aware that the site is sitting on wikidot.com, and not on
dev-urandom.com anymore, I was wondering if there's a better place I
can grab them from.  I have someone interested in BSD, and was trying
to download all options and let him pick.

With this download, it'll take  a day or more to download it, then
the time to meet up with this guy.


Any light shed on the slow downloads?

Thanks again, Manolis for ALL your hard work, it is very much appreciated.

--Tim
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Re: metadata is incorrect - freebsd-update

2009-09-08 Thread Andreas Rudisch
On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 05:26:13 +
Eitan Adler  wrote:

> When I try to update to 8.0-BETA3

Try Beta4 instead.
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2009-September/051801.html

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metadata is incorrect - freebsd-update

2009-09-08 Thread Eitan Adler
When I try to update to 8.0-BETA3 using freebsd-update I get a gunzip
problem like: metadata iscorrupt
I tried to remove /var/db/freebsd-update/files/* but I get the same
error message

Is this a client side problem or a server problem?
If the former how do I fix it?
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Re: Inconsistency in root partition size

2009-09-08 Thread jaymax


Mel Flynn-2 wrote:
> 
> 
> This is exactly what I figured. Some files are hiding behind a mount
> point. 
> The got there most likely, cause you did make installworld without /usr 
> mounted, which would happen if you have the FreeBSD source tree on a
> different 
> location, reboot into single user mode, only mount the source tree and do 
> installworld.
> 
> To repair, reboot into single user. Run the following commands:
> fsck -y /
> mount -u -o rw /
> rm -rf /usr/*
> exit
> 
> This should delete the offending files.
> 

Thanks, you have been a tremendous help
That was precisely the problem and solution, the capacity from df-k is back
down to 10% thanks again
with your permission I'd like to post your advise on the FreeBSD Forum, of
course with credits =)
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Re: Using mdconfig for swap space

2009-09-08 Thread RW
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 16:51:20 -0500
Peter Steele  wrote:

> Are there any advantages to using mdconfig and creating a virtual
> disk for swap space as opposed to having a designated swap partition?
> For example, I could do something like this:
> 
> mdconfig -a -t swap -f /var/swap0 -s 4g
> swapon -a /dev/md0

FWIW that's already supported by adding  swapfile="/var/swap0" to
rc.conf

Your arguments are wrong BTW "-t swap" creates a device *backed* by
swap. And the size comes from the size of the supplied file - which you
typically create with dd.
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Re: Using mdconfig for swap space

2009-09-08 Thread Jerry McAllister
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 04:51:20PM -0500, Peter Steele wrote:

> Are there any advantages to using mdconfig and creating a virtual disk for 
> swap space as opposed to having a designated swap partition? For example, I 
> could do something like this:

Unless I am missing something basic here, it seems like a bad idea to 
me - to carve out and use up some memory to use as extra storage for 
processes that need more memory that you have taken away to give to swap.  
That is self defeating.

In addition, one use of swap is to write dumps to if there is a crash. 
If you put it in memory, it is gone when you reboot.

jerry


> 
> mdconfig -a -t swap -f /var/swap0 -s 4g
> swapon -a /dev/md0
> 
> to add 4G to the system swap space backed by the file /var/swap0. How would 
> this compare to repartitioning my hard drive and adding a new 4GB swap 
> partition?
> 
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Re: Using mdconfig for swap space

2009-09-08 Thread Adam Vande More
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Peter Steele  wrote:

> Are there any advantages to using mdconfig and creating a virtual disk for
> swap space as opposed to having a designated swap partition? For example, I
> could do something like this:
>
> mdconfig -a -t swap -f /var/swap0 -s 4g
> swapon -a /dev/md0
>
> to add 4G to the system swap space backed by the file /var/swap0. How would
> this compare to repartitioning my hard drive and adding a new 4GB swap
> partition?
>
> In general, this is not a good idea.  Your system will ideally not use swap
space at all, and if it's using it a lot then it could sure use the extra
ram consumed by the md drive instead of in swap.  Most likely to slow your
system down, not speed it up.  If you're going to do anything, it's best to
keep swap on a separate disk, or on the outer part of disk.


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Re: Using mdconfig for swap space

2009-09-08 Thread Chuck Swiger

Hi, Peter--

On Sep 8, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Peter Steele wrote:
Are there any advantages to using mdconfig and creating a virtual  
disk for swap space as opposed to having a designated swap  
partition? For example, I could do something like this:


mdconfig -a -t swap -f /var/swap0 -s 4g
swapon -a /dev/md0

to add 4G to the system swap space backed by the file /var/swap0.  
How would this compare to repartitioning my hard drive and adding a  
new 4GB swap partition?


First, using -f means using -t vnode.  Secondly, swapping directly to  
a swap partition is mildly faster than having to navigate through the  
filesystem layers to do swapfile based swapping.  Other platforms have  
chosen to go with the dynamically created and deleted swapfiles  
(under /var/vm/swapfile0, 1, etc for example) to allow the system to  
adjust the amount of disk used for swapspace dynamically.


With disk space costing a matter of a few cents per gigabyte nowadays,  
setting up a dedicated swap partition and just letting it do it's  
thing is much easier than trying to fiddle around with alternatives,  
IMHO, but you're welcome to experiment and see whether you end up with  
something which is actually better for your circumstances


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Using mdconfig for swap space

2009-09-08 Thread Peter Steele
Are there any advantages to using mdconfig and creating a virtual disk for swap 
space as opposed to having a designated swap partition? For example, I could do 
something like this:

mdconfig -a -t swap -f /var/swap0 -s 4g
swapon -a /dev/md0

to add 4G to the system swap space backed by the file /var/swap0. How would 
this compare to repartitioning my hard drive and adding a new 4GB swap 
partition?

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setquota + geli

2009-09-08 Thread Stefan Miklosovic
hi,

I would like to set some quotas with setquota
on crypted disk with geli, but if I want to do so ->

/etc/fstab
/dev/ad0s2f.eli /home   ufs
rw,noatime,userquota,groupquota 2   2

/etc/rc.conf
enable_quotas="YES"

I can edit quotas by edquota, but with setquota command it is impossible

~# setquota -u -f /dev/ad0s2f.eli -bh1 stewe
setquota : /dev/ad0s2f.eli is not a valid filesystem.

does setquota support encrypted disks?
what should I do?

thank you
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Re: Reverse Proxy /Proxy Pass

2009-09-08 Thread Agus
2009/9/5 Mel Flynn :
> On Saturday 05 September 2009 09:55:54 Agus wrote:
>> 2009/9/3 Mel Flynn :
>> > On Friday 04 September 2009 01:20:46 Agus wrote:
>> >> What server, application do u know/recommend me for using as a
>> >> ProxyPass / Reverse Proxy...
>> >>
>> >> The idea is to forward all requests to port 80 to this server and then
>> >> from here according to the vhost send it to the actual server... For
>> >> now i only need proxying.. dont think cacheing will be possible so im
>> >> just looking for a pretty fast, light and stable app to do this on a
>> >> freebsd 7...
>> >>
>> >> Thanks and ihope to hear some cool recommendations.. hehe
>> >
>> > If lightweight, go with www/nginx. Features, go with www/squid or
>> > apache+mod_proxy.
>> > --
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>> Thanks Mel... Now i've been reading a little and found that cherokee
>> maybe a very good alternative also I also found that the
>> performance will variate according to the syscall the server uses... i
>> read about poll,etc how to know which syscalls does the servers
>> support and which one is better/fastest?
>
> kqueue is preferred on *BSD, since it's able to aggregate multiple filter
> matches into one event if they happen to occur in a close time frame. This
> reduces copyout from kernel to userland. It also used to be true that poll is
> a busywait, but I think that has been corrected.
>
> If you're interested, the original design document for kqueue is available
> here:
> http://people.freebsd.org/~jlemon/papers/kqueue.pdf
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>

Greatt.. sorry for the late response.. i was on vacations in a place
with no internet... hehe... on the second day i was cryinggg.. haha
thanks so much for the explanation and link... will read that and try
to understand a bit ... hehe

Cheers,
AR
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Re: Inconsistency in root partition size

2009-09-08 Thread Mel Flynn
On Tuesday 08 September 2009 04:14:55 jaymax wrote:

> > restore -tf /disk03/dump/root2.dump > rootrestore-0.lst
>
> To my surprise rootrestore-0.lst contains a whole listings of ./usr/ files
> ex.
>
> >   2926  ./usr/include/bsnmp/snmpmod.h
> >   2927  ./usr/include/bsnmp/snmp_atm.h
>
> Now /usr is on a separate and distinct partition
>
> > /dev/ad0s1f  36205990  25765232  754428077%/usr
>
> Hope someone can make some sense of this.

This is exactly what I figured. Some files are hiding behind a mount point. 
The got there most likely, cause you did make installworld without /usr 
mounted, which would happen if you have the FreeBSD source tree on a different 
location, reboot into single user mode, only mount the source tree and do 
installworld.

To repair, reboot into single user. Run the following commands:
fsck -y /
mount -u -o rw /
rm -rf /usr/*
exit

This should delete the offending files.
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Re: ath(4) Atheros AR9285 support

2009-09-08 Thread Sergey Vinogradov
herbs wrote:
> I had serious problems using the port hal in combination with an Atheros
> WiFi card. Maybe disable hal and try again?
> 
> Cheers
> herb langhans
>  
> On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 05:23:10PM +0400, Sergey Vinogradov wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Just wanted to know, if there will be any Atheros AR9285 support in
>> ath(4) driver in nearest future? I've got my ASUS Eee 1005HA with one of
>> these wireless adapters, and it doesn't seem to be working.
>>
>> -- 
>> wbr,
>> Boo
>>
> 
> 
> 
It's a fresh install, nothing but base system and GENERIC kernel installed.

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Re: ath(4) Atheros AR9285 support

2009-09-08 Thread herbs
I had serious problems using the port hal in combination with an Atheros
WiFi card. Maybe disable hal and try again?

Cheers
herb langhans
 
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 05:23:10PM +0400, Sergey Vinogradov wrote:
> Hi,
> Just wanted to know, if there will be any Atheros AR9285 support in
> ath(4) driver in nearest future? I've got my ASUS Eee 1005HA with one of
> these wireless adapters, and it doesn't seem to be working.
> 
> -- 
> wbr,
> Boo
> 



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Re: how to get rid of a character, 0x80?

2009-09-08 Thread Gary Kline
On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 08:02:06AM -0500, Jim White wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Jon Radel  wrote:
> 
> > Mark Stapper wrote:
> >
> >  besides.. 0x80!=0200
> >> it's 0200 octal which is 128 decimal...
> >> Might be why it doesn't work for you.
> >>
> >
> > Don't mess with his head.  ;-)
> >
> > 0200 = 0x80 = 128
> >
> > 200 octal = 80 hex = 128 decimal
> >

Yup :-)
> >
> > --Jon Radel
> > j...@radel.com
> >
> 
> You may want to check if your char type is signed.  If it is (and it just
> happens to be 8 bits wide), (char)128 is a negative value.


I used 

int ch, not char ch;

Also, just found some throwaway code that [of course] never gets 
pitched, and
found the for chars >= 128, it's a wide character.   



while (( ch = getwc(stdin)) != WEOF)
{

if (ch == L'\xe2')
{
if ((ch1 = getwc(stdin)) == L'\x80')
{
printf("'");


/* check for and swallow last of the 
trio */
if ((ch2 = getwc(stdin)) == L'\x90')
{
continue;
}
}
}
else
{
putchar (ch);
}
}


I wrote the above to get rid of openoffice TXT that was still cluttered 
with the
trio of wide characters that output one apostrophe.

Last night I used pdftotext to translate a pdf file; it was cluttered 
with a slew of
^L's, which == '\014', and wound up with a greater slew of  in 
more [less]
and vi.  Nutshell, the file was fubar'd.

gary





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Invitation to help test the BSD News Network...

2009-09-08 Thread Mikel King
Although I have received a very good response, I am still looking for  
a handful of beta testers as well as some volunteers to help tweak the  
installation.


If you are interested in helping build the BSD News Network then  
contact me directly off list.


Regards,
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Senior Editor, Daemon News
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GEOM: the secondary GPT table is corrupt

2009-09-08 Thread Tom Worster
i'm using gmirror on a server box here at home without understanding how
geom works in any detail. i probably followed the handbook chapter 19.4 but
it was a while ago.

i'm wondering if there's a way to clear these warnings in boot logs:

ad4: 715404MB  at ata2-master SATA150
GEOM: ad4: the secondary GPT table is corrupt or invalid.
GEOM: ad4: using the primary only -- recovery suggested.
ad6: 715404MB  at ata3-master SATA150
GEOM: ad6: the secondary GPT table is corrupt or invalid.
GEOM: ad6: using the primary only -- recovery suggested.
GEOM_MIRROR: Device mirror/gm0 launched (2/2).
GEOM: mirror/gm0: the secondary GPT table is corrupt or invalid.
GEOM: mirror/gm0: using the primary only -- recovery suggested.
GEOM_LABEL: Label for provider mirror/gm0p1 is msdosfs/EFI.
Trying to mount root from ufs:/dev/mirror/gm0s1a
GEOM_LABEL: Label msdosfs/EFI removed.

the array seems to be fine, according to gmirror status.

googling around, it seems these warnings indicate shoddy initial setup of
the disks and there's no clear answer how to sort these matters out.

any advice?

-tom


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Re: "me" in ipfw rules - does it include aliases?

2009-09-08 Thread Nikos Vassiliadis

Tom Worster wrote:


thanks, nikos.



You're welcome.



i'm interested in your other comment about the risks of using "me". 


All I am saying is that you have to take care of "attacks" which use "me"
addresses. Packets with source address a "me" address coming from a network
interface, AKA spoofed packets. Apparently a "me" source address cannot
come from a wire[1], right?

It's not a great risk, but you better filter them out. Also, it is very
possible that such attacks are not applicable to your network. Or not.

I am just pointing the possible false sense of security when
using rules which match "me" addresses. Just be sure that "me"
is really your firewall and not somebody else...

for the

best possible security, i'll post my ruleset here for y'all to review ... or
maybe not :-)


You better not:)

[1] by the word wire, I mean every non-loopback interface

Nikos
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Re: "me" in ipfw rules - does it include aliases?

2009-09-08 Thread Tom Worster
On 9/8/09 2:58 AM, "Nikos Vassiliadis"  wrote:

> Tom Worster wrote:
>> the ipfw man page says:
>> 
>>   me   matches any IP address configured on an interface in the system.
>> 
>> which suggests that if i code my rules using "me" then when i add an alias
>> ip address to an interface with ifconfig, these "me" rules will immediately
>> work for the newly added address as they do for other addresses.
> 
>> is that correct?
> 
> Yes, the "me" keyword is expanded to whatever IP address is
> assigned on any interface in the system. It's updated whenever
> an IP address is added to or removed from an interface. Use the
> simple ruleset bellow to test it yourself:
> 
> lab# ipfw list
> 00100 allow ip from me to me
> 65535 deny ip from any to any
> 
> add alias & ping alias => success
> remove alias & ping alias => failure
> 
> It's a really useful keyword, yet it's not panacea. When
> using it, one has to think the possibility of an attacker
> who uses "me" addresses. Use some interface checking as
> well in your ruleset...
> 
> Nikos

thanks, nikos.

my rules were all written with "me" and my apache config didn't mention any
ip addresses so i went ahead and cut over service from a primary server to
its hot standby by removing the external ip address on the  primary and
adding it as an alias to the standby's external interface. both servers are
attached to the same upstream ethernet bridge (not necessarily the most
reliable network config, i know) and it worked well.

i'm interested in your other comment about the risks of using "me". for the
best possible security, i'll post my ruleset here for y'all to review ... or
maybe not :-)


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Re: how to get rid of a character, 0x80?

2009-09-08 Thread Jim White
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 7:43 AM, Jon Radel  wrote:

> Mark Stapper wrote:
>
>  besides.. 0x80!=0200
>> it's 0200 octal which is 128 decimal...
>> Might be why it doesn't work for you.
>>
>
> Don't mess with his head.  ;-)
>
> 0200 = 0x80 = 128
>
> 200 octal = 80 hex = 128 decimal
>
> --
>
> --Jon Radel
> j...@radel.com
>

You may want to check if your char type is signed.  If it is (and it just
happens to be 8 bits wide), (char)128 is a negative value.
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Re: What invokes cricket on FreeBSD

2009-09-08 Thread stan
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 05:04:19PM +0200, Mel Flynn wrote:
> On Friday 04 September 2009 16:28:07 stan wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:41:28PM +0200, Mel Flynn wrote:
> > > On Thursday 03 September 2009 22:23:47 stan wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 10:10:13PM +0200, Mel Flynn wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday 03 September 2009 21:02:41 stan wrote:
> > > > > > pnoc# cat collect-subtrees
> > > > > > #!/bin/sh
> > > > > >
> > > > > > echo STARTED >> /tmp/stan
> > > > > > which perl >> /tmp/stan
> > > > > > /usr/local/cricket/cricket/collect-subtrees.pl normal >> /tmp/stan
> > > > > > echo Done >> /tmp/stan
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /tmp stan contains:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > pnoc# cat /tmp/stan
> > > > > > STARTED
> > > > > > /usr/bin/perl
> > > > > > Done
> > > > > > STARTED
> > > > > > /usr/bin/perl
> > > > > > Done
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So, cron is invoking the correct command, and perl can be found,
> > > > > > but the original collect_subtrees perl script silently dies.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am convinced it's an environemt probkl`lem, I am just uncertain
> > > > > > how to determine what.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not anymore. I'm putting 1 cent on a broken /usr/bin/perl symlink
> > > > > (perl upgrade gone bonkers, f.e. done with ro mounted /usr) and
> > > > > another cent on the perl script using system() function, with
> > > > > pathless commands (that is environment).
> > >
> > > Ok, one liner:
> > > su -m cricket env -i HOME=/usr/local/cricket PATH=/bin:/usr/bin \
> > >/usr/local/cricket/cricket/collect-subtrees.pl normal
> > >
> > > I've downloaded the 1.0.5 version, but can't quickly see where that would
> > > go wrong with this script. touch is in /usr/bin, so that should work. Any
> > > cron messages in /var/mail/cricket?
> >
> > I am away from work today, and won't be back till Tuesday. I can't access
> > this from home.
> >
> > I will try your test then. The only messages that are getting to
> > /var/log/cron is just the one saying that the task was executed.
> Yea, the error messages end up in /var/mail/$USER or MAILTO variable if set 
> in 
> crontab. /var/log/maillog should have some tell tales.

That turned out to be the information I needed to solve theproblem. I had
told my contractor to put a .forward in every non user uer'es account (such
as Cricket), and he had not done that. had he done that I would have gotten
the needed inforamtion, when I first brought the system abck up.

Turns out there was a lockfile, and Cricket was emailing me, asking me to
remove it if it was satle :-( Removing it solved the mystery.

Thanks for all the help, everyone!!

Subtree normal is currently being processed. If this is a mistake,
use "rm /tmp/cricket-subtree-normal" to unlock it.

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zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C
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Re: difficult-to-phrase question...

2009-09-08 Thread RW
On Mon, 7 Sep 2009 18:34:15 -0700
Gary Kline  wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 08, 2009 at 01:56:12AM +0100, RW wrote:

> > Wouldn't you be better-off just turning-off session management, and
> > using autostart instead
> 
> 
> 
>   sounds like a good idea; how do i accomplish this?  

The Session Manager  in "Control Center" lets you turn it off, and you
can drag application icons into  ~/.kde/Autostart  to have them
autostart instead.

> also,
> what if i have a  konqueror running and sites running and the power
> goes out. sometimes i want the apps to restart, not usually.  is it
> possible to save Some programs state and let others go?

The Session Manager lets you exempt applications, but I'm not sure if
you can distinguish  konqueror browsers from file managers though.

In other browsers crash recovery works independently of session
management, I think you probably do need it with konqueror but I'm not
sure.
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Re: how to get rid of a character, 0x80?

2009-09-08 Thread Jon Radel

Mark Stapper wrote:


besides.. 0x80!=0200
it's 0200 octal which is 128 decimal...
Might be why it doesn't work for you.


Don't mess with his head.  ;-)

0200 = 0x80 = 128

200 octal = 80 hex = 128 decimal

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Re: Freebsd Built-in vacation program does not auto reply

2009-09-08 Thread Andre Albsmeier
On Fri, 04-Sep-2009 at 20:43:21 +0200, Andre Albsmeier wrote:
> On Thu, 16-Apr-2009 at 18:00:26 +, lyd mc wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> > 
> > Why Freebsd built-in vacation program (/usr/bin/vacation) does not auto 
> > reply?
> > 
> > I am using fresh installed Freebsd7.0 and 7.1. here is my configs.
> 
> Did you solve the problem already? I had a similar issue and
> tracked it down to a really strange compiler bug...

In fact it's no compiler bug (I only discovered it by changing
the compiler options) but a problem in vacation.c.

-Andre
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Re: is there a way of usinf greo to find 3 or 4 blank lines?

2009-09-08 Thread Mark Willson

Gary Kline wrote:

On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 08:06:51AM +0100, Mark Willson wrote:

The following version should do what you want:

BEGIN {
ncnt = 0
prev = "BOF"
}
/^ *$/ {
ncnt++;
if (ncnt > 3) {
print "Emphasis at " NR ": " prev;
prev = "-multiple-"
ncnt = 0;
}
next;
}
   {ncnt = 0; prev = $0}

-mark



It does! outstanding

thanks again,

gary


Gary,

No problem.  Glad I could help.

-mark

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Re: how to get rid of a character, 0x80?

2009-09-08 Thread Bertram Scharpf
Hi,

Am Dienstag, 08. Sep 2009, 08:00:27 +0200 schrieb Mark Stapper:
> Gary Kline wrote:
> > anybody know why getchar() doesn't see 0x80 == 0200?
> 
> Presumably, you want to read a capital C with cedille? (0x80 128 Ç)

"\x80" is a nonbreakable space in iso8859-1/-15.
(And a Euro sign in Windows-1252). Who uses cp437/cp850 on BSD?

> besides.. 0x80!=0200

  $ ruby -e 'puts 0x80, 0200'
  128
  128

Bertram


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Re: Is there such thing as a 'soft checksum' tool?

2009-09-08 Thread Michaël Grünewald

per...@pluto.rain.com wrote:

Mel Flynn  wrote:

However, thinking about this inquiry and JPEG in the same sentence
has given me an idea that might help the OP:  JPEG is a "lossy"
compression, with the degree of loss related to the chosen image
quality, so two "similar" images might become identical -- or at
least more similar -- if compressed to a sufficiently low quality
using the JPEG algorithm.


This seems to be an excellent idea. A similar approach can 
(successfully) be used to let a computer recognize songs through a 
micrOphone: the incoming signal is transformmed to MP3 at a rather low 
quality, which provides a sort of fingerprint of the input. The quality 
factors shall be adujsted adequately for this application: there is a 
tradeoff between stability (noise insensitivity) and separation to find.


The case of images is much more complicated if one wishes to recognize 
the same image at two different scales.

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Re: Freebsd Built-in vacation program does not auto reply

2009-09-08 Thread lyd mc

Hi Andre,

I use CFLAGS=-O2. 

Best regards,

Alyd


--- On Tue, 9/8/09, Andre Albsmeier  wrote:

From: Andre Albsmeier 
Subject: Re: Freebsd Built-in vacation program does not auto reply
To: "lyd mc" 
Cc: "Andre Albsmeier" 
Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 4:54 PM

On Tue, 08-Sep-2009 at 01:49:18 -0700, lyd mc wrote:
> Hi Andre,

Hi,

> 
> WOW! Its working now!

Great. What CFLAGS line have you got now? -O2 or nothing?
Would you mind posting a short note to freebsd-questions
regarding this? My intention is to make a bug report but
people will probably laugh at me if I haven't at least
another person to confirm this.

    -Andre

> 
> Here is my logs...
> 
> Sep  8 16:35:07 MAIL postfix/pickup[60602]: C6147BDC6D: uid=2003 
> from=
> Sep  8 16:35:07 MAIL postfix/cleanup[60710]: C6147BDC6D: 
> message-id=<20090908083507.c6147bd...@mail..com>
> Sep  8 16:35:07 MAIL postfix/qmgr[60603]: C6147BDC6D: 
> from=, size=347, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
> Sep  8 16:35:07 MAIL postfix/local[60712]: C6147BDC6D: 
> to=, orig_to=, relay=local, delay=0.03, 
> delays=0.02/0.01/0/0, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to maildir)
> Sep  8 16:35:07 MAIL postfix/pickup[60602]: D02A5BDC70: uid=1001 
> from=
> Sep  8 16:35:07 MAIL postfix/cleanup[60710]: D02A5BDC70: 
> message-id=<20090908083507.d02a5bd...@mail..com>
> 
> Postfix deliver to vacation
> 
> Sep  8 16:35:07 MAIL postfix/local[60712]: C6147BDC6D: 
> to=, orig_to=, relay=local, delay=0.05, 
> delays=0.02/0.01/0/0.02, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to command: 
> /usr/bin/vacation alyd.mc)
> Sep  8 16:35:07 MAIL postfix/qmgr[60603]: C6147BDC6D: removed
> 
> vacation send back notification
> 
> Sep  8 16:35:07 MAIL postfix/qmgr[60603]: D02A5BDC70: 
> from=, size=475, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
> Sep  8 16:35:07 MAIL postfix/local[60712]: D02A5BDC70: 
> to=, relay=local, delay=0.01, delays=0/0/0/0, 
> dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (delivered to maildir)
> Sep  8 16:35:07 MAIL postfix/qmgr[60603]: D02A5BDC70: removed
> 
> Thank you very much!
> 
> Alyd
> 
> 
> 
> 
>       




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Re: Is there such thing as a 'soft checksum' tool?

2009-09-08 Thread perryh
Mel Flynn  wrote:
> On Monday 07 September 2009 05:09:53 Michael David Crawford wrote:
> > > M> I'm looking for a pseudo-checksum tool for use with
> > > M> cataloging images.
> > One way you could approach it might be to use a blur filter ...
> > Small differences in individual pixels would be blurred away.
> ... the above does not work, because of compression anyway.
> Just because you think of an image as a bitmap, does not mean
> it's stored as such.

Certainly it is the decompressed payloads of the JPEG etc. files
that are to be compared, rather than the files themselves.  It
would never have occurred to me that anyone participating in the
discussion might have thought otherwise.

However, thinking about this inquiry and JPEG in the same sentence
has given me an idea that might help the OP:  JPEG is a "lossy"
compression, with the degree of loss related to the chosen image
quality, so two "similar" images might become identical -- or at
least more similar -- if compressed to a sufficiently low quality
using the JPEG algorithm.
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