Re: TeX qurestions, for anybody who cares to reply... .
Hi, > i see that i've used "per se". in my ascii type i cannot type > the e-aigu and i cannot find it in any of the docs. 12-15 years > ago when i was first messing with tex i remember there =was= a > way of telling tex to type the diacritical mark over the "e" First remark, "per se" being latin takes no accute accent. But you should be able to use back-slash, single quote, letter e, to get a e-accute > i would like to make the text smaller that the surrounding text. > so my last question is: how do i tell tex/latex to make the back-slash small? Olivier ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
TeX qurestions, for anybody who cares to reply... .
hi y'all!
for a cchange i have decided not to bother/continue bothering
roland. offlist. he has set me up with enough of a starter that
>> 90% of my book is typeset. i have a few other tex/latex
questions for anybody in the extreme east of Zulu time. or
even points west to the dateline.
below is where my main protagonist, erik-the-geek, is showing a
friend his unix CRT and a USENET newsgroup. ---this is circa
1992.
i see that i've used "per se". in my ascii type i cannot type
the e-aigu and i cannot find it in any of the docs. 12-15 years
ago when i was first messing with tex i remember there =was= a
way of telling tex to type the diacritical mark over the "e"
the most important part is that i want the demo blurb
[[modified from usenet when i drafted this]] in "typewriter"
typeface. the docs i googled said that {\tt text blah blah }
would put the text between the braces in typewriter-font.
i would like to make the text smaller that the surrounding text.
so my last question is: how do i tell tex/latex to make the
denoted text in tt font and with 9pt size? the "\\" should give
the ragged edge as it appeared on the tube. this works in
{verse} anyway. i'm not sure what to do at the bottom of the
post; i figure trial/error will anser that.
here is the bit of the novel that i need help with. any/all help
is much appreciated.
+
He added, ``There are some news groups on the Net that have little to do
with computers, per se. There are groups that argue about politics,
religion, science, art, you name it. I don't waste my time with those.''
``Can you show me?'' she said.
``Sure,'' Erik said, and drove back to the table where his hardware sat.
He typed a few keystrokes on the keyboard and watched the terminal.
``I'm bringing up the news groups,'' he said. A moment later when the
terminal
screen displayed a list, Erik typed several more keys.
``Now what am I looking at?'' Bonnie asked some seconds later.
``Okay, this is one of the groups where you'll find endless arguments.
This is the newsgroup called `talk.abortion.' Now the first article here
is this one--'' Erik typed another key and a brief paragraph displayed:
{\tt chris\_sm...@holyrose.mass.edu Christopher L. Z. Smith
Masturbation is wrong
I think that not only is abortion the taking of an innocent living life,\\
but that for men especially, masturbation is WRONG. When we males masturbate,\\
we are murdering countless millions of sperm which are, in my view,\\
imbued with that spark of infinity which we call GOD. Yes, I realize that\\
sperm are genetically haploid but I still think and masturbation is Wrong!\\
Masturbation is a SIN!\\
Yours in Holy Opposition,
--
Chris Smith, Electronically spreading the Holy Truth.}
Bonnie finished the note and looked at Erik. [[[ story continues]]]
+++
that's about it. if anybody can clue me in here, the answers
will help me with the the few other places that could,
optionally, use different fonts than the default.
gary
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Configure PMBR to Find Loader on GPT Disk
After setting up a GPT disk and installing the boot blocks with: # gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptboot -i 1 ad4 The system wants to boot: 0:ad(0p2)/boot/kernel/kernel I manually intervene to cause the system to boot: 1:ad(5p8)/boot/loader How do I configure the boot blocks to do this without human intervention on a GPT system? boot0cfg doesn't seem to be the correct tool for this job. Thanks, Jason ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Install path not found
Kdelibs stops with
Code:
libtool: install: error: cannot install `libkunittest.la' to a
directory not ending in /usr/local/lib
.
Changing to the directory and grepping for /usr/local/lib returns
Code:
tima# cat
/usr/ports/x11/kdelibs3/work/kdelibs-3.5.10/kunittest/Makefile|grep
/usr/local/lib
LIBART_LIBS = -L/usr/local/lib -lart_lgpl_2 -lm
LIBART_RPATH = -R/usr/local/lib
LIBPCRE = -L/usr/local/lib -Wl,-R/usr/local/lib -lpcreposix -lpcre
LIBXML_LIBS = -L/usr/local/lib -lxml2 -lz -L/usr/local/lib -liconv -lm
LIBXML_RPATH = -R/usr/local/lib -R/usr/local/lib
LIBXSLT_LIBS = -L/usr/local/lib -lxslt -lxml2 -lz -liconv -lm
LIBXSLT_RPATH = -R/usr/local/lib
LIB_CUPS = -lcups -L/usr/local/lib -lgnutls -lz -pthread -lm -lcrypt
LIB_EXR = -pthread -L/usr/local/lib -lIlmImf -lz -lImath -lHalf -lIex
-lIlmThread
X_LDFLAGS = -L/usr/local/lib
all_libraries = -L${exec_prefix}/lib -L/usr/local/lib
qt_libraries = /usr/local/lib
x_libraries = /usr/local/lib
tima#
Which is the path for the install? To me it looks like
Code:
all_libraries = -L${exec_prefix}/lib -L/usr/local/lib
, but I am not sure.
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Re: office apps
On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 04:43:42AM -1000, p...@pair.com wrote: > in message > , > wrote Alejandro Imass thusly... > > > > Anyway, chack to see if you may have a broken Java implementation, > > and check to see if it's possible to get OO to work with Sun's JRE > > 6, and give that a go and see. I have a gut feeling your problem > > is related to a broken Java VM somewhere in your machine. > > Am I the only one who has (force) installed open office from package > without java dependency and has yet to see a problem with MS Word & > simple Excel files? With my old OO.o install (from package, not port), I haven't had any problems. The thing even "exports" to PDF without Java. Since then, however, I haven't been able to find a working OO.o binary package for FreeBSD, so I haven't upgraded my OO.o version. > > It took about 15 "seconds" of manual count to see an empty window > after typing "openoffice.org-3.0.0 -nologo". Hardware is ... I'm not sure what you mean by this. Empty window? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpTnuiBSPWfD.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: office apps
On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 08:16:03AM -0700, Chip Camden wrote: > On Jun 07 2010 22:12, Chris Hill wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Chip Camden wrote: > > > > >[...] I do have clients who send me Word docs, and one who requires that > > >I send them specs in Word format. For that, I guess I'm stuck using > > >some behemoth office tool, if only for converting from a different > > >format. I'm currently doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd > > >like to limit my involvement with Windows to only developing for it when > > >I must. > > > > I have clients like that too. What I've done - only once or twice, and > > really just to be a dick - is to do my writeup in ASCII text, then `mv foo > > foo.doc`. There, it's in word format! And Word really can open the file, > > so... > > > That's great -- I'll have to remember that one. I sorta did that once. I sent someone a plaintext file. He double clicked the file, causing it to automatically open in Notepad, which puked on my Unix-style linebreaks. He asked me to give it to him in DOC format. I said he should just open it in another application, at which point he gave me his pathetic sob story about how he always double clicked a file to open it and if it doesn't work that way he can't open the file et cetera, et alii, ad infinitum, ad nauseam. To make a long story short (too late), I changed the filename from filename.txt to filename.doc and sent it to him again. He double-clicked, and it automatically opened the file in Word. I still find the gall of the man kind of surprising, demanding that I find some way to save the file in DOC format and re-email it to him when he could just open MS Word and use File > Open to browse to the file. I seem to recall he didn't want to be bothered figuring out how to Save As to change it into DOC format himself, either, even if he did get it open in MS Word, which makes the whole situation even more bizarre and aggravating for me. It was just the once that I did that, though. Aside from 1) requests for resumes and 2) files that I originally got from someone else in MS Office file formats, I haven't really had any need to deal with the DOC(X) and other MS Office formats. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgpe9RB87YOA8.pgp Description: PGP signature
nVidia motherboards
I thought I saw even some partial support for nVidia motherboards.. but can't find it again. I can't get even get the kernel to load. it's an Atom 32-bit board and would like to find that reference again. If you can help me look I'd love the help. --Tim ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: office apps
On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 03:55:40PM +0200, Polytropon wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:28:04 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > > I've never had a client who wouldn't take either PDF or plain text. > > And five minutes later, they call you by phone and ask how they can > edit the PDF file... :-) Hah. Good point. . . . though in cases where they'll take PDF, it's usually for something like an invoice, so this doesn't come up much in practice. > > Just a friendly sidenote: > > > On > > the other hand, clients who prefer Word DOC(X) but will take plain text > > if they "must" have a tendency to immediately open it in Word, save as > > DOC(X), then send the friggin' thing back to me in that format after > > making some changes. > > You are aware that there is not "the" DOC format? The many > various "Word" programs use slightly different formats, and > rendering a document heavily depends on the current environment > "Word" is running in, e. g. which fonts are installed, even > which printer is installed - all this can have influence on > how the document is opened. Yeah, I'm fully aware. That's why I said DOC(X) -- because it's DOC (any version) or DOCX. It's easier to say DOC(X) than "some variation of DOC or DOCX". > > Furthermore, the DOCX format isn't really an open format. It > *claims* to be standardized, but it's not; even MICROS~1 didn't > implement it properly, and there are still blobs inside the > XML, which can lead to problems. I think Microsoft's mis-implementation (according to the "standard") was quite intentional. > > There are many problems you can encounter in import/export > settings. So the only way to be sure is to use a standardized > format. My preference is plaintext. It doesn't get much more "standard" than that. > > I've worked in a setting where interoperability was the main > goal, because there were BSD, Linux, Solaris, Mac OS X and > even "Windows" machines, and our choice was OpenOffice, which > worked excellently across the platforms. It wouldn't have been > possible with MICROS~1 binary garbage in between. :-) OpenOffice.org is a heinous snarl of cat hair and feces, from my perspective. It's little better than MS Office, frankly. Your mileage obviously varies. > > > > > I keep hoping the day will come when people who prefer MS Word are the > > rarity, rather than me being the odd man out. > > It *will* happen, just consider the costs and the growing > uncomfortability of those programs (not counting those who > regularly use pirated copies to have "the same pictures at > home" as they know them from work). :-) Actually, "pirating" is one of the main reasons MS Office is the dominant office suite in general use -- just as it is with MS Windows, too. There's not as much reason to switch to something free when the Microsoft option is "free" too. This might seem like kind of a foreign concept to many users of open source software, but I've discovered that even when they don't *respect* copyright law, open source software users and developers tend to *follow* copyright law a lot more diligently than the general run of computer-using humanity. From what I've seen, people who use nothing but Microsoft, Adobe, and similar relentlessly closed-source consumer software are much more likely to think *nothing* of downloading cracked versions of commercial software than open source software users. That includes people like me, who simply don't use "pirated" software and believe that copyright law as a whole is a suppurating pustule on the face of modern civilization. Then, of course, if I get into a discussion of the ethicality of copyright law with one of those hypocrites, he almost invariably ends up accusing me of rejecting the ethicality of copyright law for no deeper reason other than trying to justify "stealing". Ironic -- don't you think? I'm a bit off-topic. Here's the on-topic: I wish I'd find a foolproof, simple, transparent way for me to see and edit well-formatted plain text no matter what nonsense bloated featuritis infected office suite anyone else wanted to use. -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http://owl.apotheon.org ] pgp8wDeyLMArT.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: adding output lines to my .cshrc breaks sftp and scp ...
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:41:54 -0700 (PDT), Goh Sanda wrote: > > > I added a few lines to the bottom of my standard FreeBSD .cshrc file: > > echo "" > w > echo "" > > Just to show me what is going on each time I log in. Use ~/.login for command that should be executed after you log in. The corresponding system-wide file is /etc/csh.login. > I don't understand why .cshrc output is breaking non-interactive > SSH file transfer. Because .cshrc is read (and that's why "executed") every time a shell is requested. > Is there a way to customize my .cshrc output while still retaining > scp/sftp functionality ? Simply use ~/.cshrc for settings, and ~/.login for "real" commands. A better explaination can be found in "man csh", let me quote: Startup and shutdown A login shell begins by executing commands from the system files /etc/csh.cshrc and /etc/csh.login. It then executes commands from files in the user's home directory: first ~/.tcshrc (+) or, if ~/.tcshrc is not found, ~/.cshrc, then ~/.history (or the value of the histfile shell variable), then ~/.login, and finally ~/.cshdirs (or the value of the dirsfile shell variable) (+). The shell may read /etc/csh.login before instead of after /etc/csh.cshrc, and ~/.login before instead of after ~/.tcshrc or ~/.cshrc and ~/.history, if so compiled; see the version shell variable. (+) Non-login shells read only /etc/csh.cshrc and ~/.tcshrc or ~/.cshrc on startup. For examples of startup files, please consult http://tcshrc.source- forge.net. Commands like stty(1) and tset(1), which need be run only once per login, usually go in one's ~/.login file. Users who need to use the same set of files with both csh(1) and tcsh can have only a ~/.cshrc which checks for the existence of the tcsh shell variable (q.v.) before using tcsh-specific commands, or can have both a ~/.cshrc and a ~/.tcshrc which sources (see the builtin command) ~/.cshrc. The rest of this manual uses `~/.tcshrc' to mean `~/.tcshrc or, if ~/.tcshrc is not found, ~/.cshrc'. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Colors, mutt, termcap/terminfo
I finally got 256 colors working with mutt and zsh on FreeBSD. Even though both of these programs apparently use terminfo rather than termcap, a termcap entry must exist for your TERM setting, or they both complain. I had tried that before, but I was missing one key ingredient. The environment variable TERMCAP needed to be set to the path of the termcap file, even if it is /etc/termcap. Apparently, if TERMCAP isn't set, a built-in termcap table is used instead. The terminfo setting I wanted was rxvt-256color, which existed in terminfo but not in termcap. So, I edited /etc/termcap to include a setting for rxvt-256color, export TERMCAP=/etc/termcap, export TERM=rxvt-256color, and all is now right with the world. Of course, I only want to use 256 colors if I'm running under rxvt. So I wrote a shell script to start mutt that tests for that and sets an environment variable MUTT_COLORS to the name of a file that includes my mutt color settings (either .mutt-color256 or .mutt-color8). Then, in .muttrc: source "~/$MUTT_COLORS" -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
adding output lines to my .cshrc breaks sftp and scp ...
I added a few lines to the bottom of my standard FreeBSD .cshrc file: echo "" w echo "" Just to show me what is going on each time I log in. The problem is, when I try to scp a file to the system, I get 'w' output echo'd to me, and no actual scp. sftp fails as well - I can no longer log in via sftp, and instead get this error: Received message too long 169882682 I don't understand why .cshrc output is breaking non-interactive SSH file transfer. Is there a way to customize my .cshrc output while still retaining scp/sftp functionality ? Thank you. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: spamd exits on line 2585 unexpectedly... .
On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 11:46:54PM +0100, RW wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:51:28 -0700 > Gary Kline wrote: > > > > > anybody know why /usr/local/bin/spamd bailed on me like this? > > > > child process [2377] exited or timed out without signaling > > production of a PID file: exit 25 at /usr/local/bin/spamd line > > 2585. > > This was discussed on the ports list some time ago - I don't think they > came to any real conclusion. Someone said that sa-update had solved it, > someone fixed it by deleting and then reinstalling relevant ports. > > > seems to have begun while i was upgrading my server, but > > beyond that, i'm wedged. i would like to install dspam > > *with* this--spamassassin, if that will work. not entirely > > sure how to make that happen. > > The easiest way to do that is to pipe it though dspam > > dspam --stdout --deliver=innocent,spam > rats. i can't built dspam due to some database troubles. i'll see if there is a sa-update available. i sub to ports, but missed this one. ...appreciate the tips. -g > and then add an SA header test like: > > header DS_SPAMX-DSPAM-Result =~ /^Spam/ > tflags DS_SPAMlearn > scoreDS_SPAM3.5 > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: spamd exits on line 2585 unexpectedly... .
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 10:51:28 -0700 Gary Kline wrote: > > anybody know why /usr/local/bin/spamd bailed on me like this? > > child process [2377] exited or timed out without signaling > production of a PID file: exit 25 at /usr/local/bin/spamd line > 2585. This was discussed on the ports list some time ago - I don't think they came to any real conclusion. Someone said that sa-update had solved it, someone fixed it by deleting and then reinstalling relevant ports. > seems to have begun while i was upgrading my server, but > beyond that, i'm wedged. i would like to install dspam > *with* this--spamassassin, if that will work. not entirely > sure how to make that happen. The easiest way to do that is to pipe it though dspam dspam --stdout --deliver=innocent,spam and then add an SA header test like: header DS_SPAMX-DSPAM-Result =~ /^Spam/ tflags DS_SPAMlearn scoreDS_SPAM3.5 ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: dbus_enable and hald_enable
--On Tuesday, June 08, 2010 23:29:38 +0200 Polytropon wrote: If you ask what HAL and DBUS actually *ARE*, I'm not sure what to answer - to me, they are both useless. :-) hald is an interface between devices and programs. It listens for attachment/detachment of input devices (keyboard, mouse, etc.) and informs listening programs of those events. dbus is an interprocess communication system that allows programs to connect to and exchange messages with other programs. It allows the kernel, for example, to interact with your desktop. Rather than you interacting directly with the kernel, dbus acts as a middle man, controlling the communications between the two and only allowing you to perform actions which are considered "safe" or "reasonable". The two work together, for example, to let your desktop know when you connect a new mouse or type on your keyboard. -- Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. *** "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: dbus_enable and hald_enable
Thank you for your help! Regards, Pawel W dniu 8 czerwca 2010 23:57 użytkownik Paul Schmehl < pschmehl_li...@tx.rr.com> napisał: > --On Tuesday, June 08, 2010 23:29:38 +0200 Polytropon > wrote: > >> >> If you ask what HAL and DBUS actually *ARE*, I'm not sure what >> to answer - to me, they are both useless. :-) >> >> > hald is an interface between devices and programs. It listens for > attachment/detachment of input devices (keyboard, mouse, etc.) and informs > listening programs of those events. > > dbus is an interprocess communication system that allows programs to > connect to and exchange messages with other programs. It allows the kernel, > for example, to interact with your desktop. Rather than you interacting > directly with the kernel, dbus acts as a middle man, controlling the > communications between the two and only allowing you to perform actions > which are considered "safe" or "reasonable". > > The two work together, for example, to let your desktop know when you > connect a new mouse or type on your keyboard. > > -- > Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst > As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions > are my own and not those of my employer. > *** > "It is as useless to argue with those who have > renounced the use of reason as to administer > medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson > > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: dbus_enable and hald_enable
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 23:29:38 +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:54:23 +0200, Paweł Grzyb > wrote: > > Hello everybody, > > > >can you explain to me what is it : dbus_enable="YES" and > > hald_enable="YES" in file /etc/rc.conf? What is their function? > > Those enable the startup of the DBUS and HAL services via their > control files in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. Those services are often > needed for X, and programs related to X (KDE, Gnome, Xfce, and > many programs that have "Use DBUS for something" compile time > options set). > > Sadly, those don't provide "man dbus" or "man hal" in a very > impolite manner. I'm sure you can find more documentation on > the web, but it may already be outdated. > > If you ask what HAL and DBUS actually *ARE*, I'm not sure what > to answer - to me, they are both useless. :-) I believe HAL will be going away fairly soon, with its functionality being merged into udev on Linux. -- Bruce ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: dbus_enable and hald_enable
Polytropon writes: > >can you explain to me what is it : dbus_enable="YES" and > > hald_enable="YES" in file /etc/rc.conf? What is their function? > > Sadly, those don't provide "man dbus" or "man hal" in a very > impolite manner. I'm sure you can find more documentation on > the web, but it may already be outdated. Try "man hald". > If you ask what HAL and DBUS actually *ARE*, I'm not sure what > to answer - to me, they are both useless. :-) I believe they involved with plug-and-play devices. Robert Huff ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: dbus_enable and hald_enable
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:54:23 +0200, Paweł Grzyb wrote: > Hello everybody, > >can you explain to me what is it : dbus_enable="YES" and > hald_enable="YES" in file /etc/rc.conf? What is their function? Those enable the startup of the DBUS and HAL services via their control files in /usr/local/etc/rc.d. Those services are often needed for X, and programs related to X (KDE, Gnome, Xfce, and many programs that have "Use DBUS for something" compile time options set). Sadly, those don't provide "man dbus" or "man hal" in a very impolite manner. I'm sure you can find more documentation on the web, but it may already be outdated. If you ask what HAL and DBUS actually *ARE*, I'm not sure what to answer - to me, they are both useless. :-) Removing the entries in /etc/rc.conf may cause problems for some of your programs, or may even make your X stop working properly. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
dbus_enable and hald_enable
Hello everybody, can you explain to me what is it : dbus_enable="YES" and hald_enable="YES" in file /etc/rc.conf? What is their function? Regards, Pawel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: can i use flags at once?
On 6/8/10, b. f. wrote: > Just to clarify some of the earlier comments, the ports knobs that can > be used to define certain build options are automatically persistent > only if the knobs are defined as part of the OPTIONS framework, and if > you don't subsequently delete the /var/db/port/*/options files, either Oops: that should be: /var/db/ports/*/options. b. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: can i use flags at once?
Just to clarify some of the earlier comments, the ports knobs that can
be used to define certain build options are automatically persistent
only if the knobs are defined as part of the OPTIONS framework, and if
you don't subsequently delete the /var/db/port/*/options files, either
directly or via the rmconfig target. You can reset the values of
these knobs by re-running the config target. If you do that, it is
usually best to run rmconfig first, because obsolete knobs aren't
cleared by config, and can clutter up the options files, and thus your
build environment. The first time you build a port, and every time
thereafter that the available OPTIONS are changed for a port, you will
be prompted to reconfigure, unless you set BATCH in your build
environment, either directly or via switches in portmaster or
portupgrade -- in which case a prior choice for a knob setting will be
used, if you have made one, or the default value, if you have not.
There are also some knobs that are _not_ OPTIONS, and so must be
defined in the build environment each time the port is
built/installed/packaged. These knobs are usually either knobs that
were meant to be used for a lot of ports (e.g. WITHOUT_X11), or knobs
from older ports that weren't converted to the OPTIONS framework, or
experimental/maintainer knobs that the maintainer didn't want to
expose for wider use. You can find these, for example, by visual
inspection of the port Makefiles, by using sed/grep/awk on the port
Makefiles, or by using something like the ports-mgmt/portsopt port.
You can make these knobs persistent by using the ports-mgmt/portconf
port, or the more complicated sysutils/penv port, or by adding them to
pkgtools.conf(5) from the ports-mgmt/portupgrade* ports, or by adding
them to some included makefile. /etc/make.conf exists partly for this
purpose. But it is used for all invocations of make by default, even
for the base system and for other software that is not in ports, so it
is a good idea to limit the scope of your knob settings in this file
by making the definitions conditional, in order to avoid polluting
other builds. You can do this, for example, by using statements like:
.if${.CURDIR:M*/usr/ports/*}
#insert knobs for all ports here
WITHOUT_FOO=yes
.endif
.if${.CURDIR:M*/usr/ports/devel/bar*}
#insert knobs for the devel/bar port here
WITHOUT_BAR_DEBUG=yes
.endif
or by using other makefile directives. (This assumes of course, that
you haven't changed PORTSDIR to be something other than /usr/ports.)
It usually takes some time and effort to determine which settings are
best for you, for all of your ports, if you need to customize them --
so be patient. And if you really liked Portage, there is an
experimental project to use Portage on FreeBSD (although I'm not sure
whether this means stock FreeBSD, or a hybrid system with a FreeBSD
kernel and GNU/LInux userland) that you may want to monitor:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/bsd/index.xml
b.
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Re: can i use flags at once?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bruce Cran wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:59:40 + > Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > >> hello, >> >> i am a gentoo user and now i am trying to install a freebsd on my >> machine. ports are great but while my machine is compiling i receive >> messages about the flags. >> >> in gentoo i was able via the file /etc/portage/package.use to >> determine which flags i wanted to enable and which not. >> >> is there any way to do this in FreeBSD,since gentoo's portage is >> based on ports. > > The only similar mechanism is /etc/make.conf where you can put flags > such as USE_X11=yes or USE_GTK2=yes in order to build ports with X11 or > Gtk2 support. Unlike Gentoo there's no central repository of valid > flags. > Have you looked at /usr/ports/KNOBS? There a large number of system-level configuration options in there, and you can set them in /etc/make.conf or on the make command line. For instance, I use the following /etc/make.conf entries when I'm building ports for headless servers with minimal extra installed files: WITHOUT_X11=yes WITHOUT_NLS=yes NOPORTDOCS=yes NOPORTEXAMPLES=yes The entries in KNOBS are enabled/disabled with WITH_=yes or WITHOUT_=yes instead of USE_. USE_* directives are typically included in port Makefiles to indicate a dependency on a certain package, e.g.: USE_MYSQL= yes # This port depends on MySQL client There's are more details on all of this here: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/porters-handbook/makefile-options.html Hope that helps, Greg - -- Greg Larkin http://www.FreeBSD.org/ - The Power To Serve http://www.sourcehosting.net/ - Ready. Set. Code. http://twitter.com/sourcehosting/ - Follow me, follow you -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFMDoiC0sRouByUApARAkPBAKDDZRJPuakRFqp1olkMnYV7r1etDwCfZe5s dALMLBb6J2XfTzDPN5CRgP0= =YqHl -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Atheros AR8131 Ethernet hangs shutdown
On 06/07/2010 08:03 AM, Warren Block wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, CyberLeo Kitsana wrote: > >> I recently had the chance to play with a Foxconn NetBox-nT330i. It's >> based off an Atom 330 CPU and an nForce MCP79 chipset. All aspects of >> this device appear to function quite well with 8.1-BETA1, and it's >> diminutive stature is quite cute. >> >> The only issue I have encountered with it thus far is a seeming >> propensity for it to lock up on shutdown or reboot if the Atheros AR8131 >> ethernet adapter is not connected to anything. It gets as far as >> displaying the 'Uptime' line, then hangs; however, when connected, it >> will display the uptime message, then indicate that the alc0 interface >> is going UP and DOWN, then continue. > > If it's like the alc setup on an Acer Aspire One D250, the 10/100 alc > chip is used with a 10/100/1000 Atheros PHY. Don't remember the exact > symptoms, but it only worked right after manually setting the media to > 100baseTX. That was on a gigabit network, but might also help with no > cable connected. > > Rebuilding the kernel without the alc device ought to also work, but is > less elegant. I'm fairly certain it's gigabit the whole way, as I get transfer rates greater than 12 megabytes per second. Unfortunately, forcing the phy to 100baseTX/full-duplex does not alter the symptoms at all, and just makes transfers slower. On one of the tests, issuing a shutdown -p after unplugging the ethernet cord caused it to panic and reboot at the point it usually freezes, and thereafter freeze during startup when running netif; I wasn't able to copy down the panic info, though, as the reboot happened within half a second. Alas, this box lacks obvious serial ports. I may investigate building the kernel without the alc device, though, and see if unloading the kld prior to shutdown allows the system to continue past that point. Thanks for the suggestions! -- Fuzzy love, -CyberLeo Technical Administrator CyberLeo.Net Webhosting http://www.CyberLeo.Net Furry Peace! - http://.fur.com/peace/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
spamd exits on line 2585 unexpectedly... .
anybody know why /usr/local/bin/spamd bailed on me like this? child process [2377] exited or timed out without signaling production of a PID file: exit 25 at /usr/local/bin/spamd line 2585. seems to have begun while i was upgrading my server, but beyond that, i'm wedged. i would like to install dspam *with* this--spamassassin, if that will work. not entirely sure how to make that happen. gary -- Gary Kline kl...@thought.org http://www.thought.org Public Service Unix The 7.83a release of Jottings: http://jottings.thought.org/index.php http://journey.thought.org 99 44/100% Guaranteed Novel ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:19 PM, wrote: > Firefox 3.6 needs Java 6 Update 10. [1] > > For now, as a newbie, I generally try not to install anything not in the > ports collection. From there you can find some JREs, but none are at Update > 10, including Linux emulation. [2] At this time, the highest I see there is > diablo-jre-1.6.0.07.02_8. > > That's okay, I really wanted the full JDK anyway, so I look for that. [3] > There appears to be four flavors available; diablo-jdk, openjdk, jdk and > linux-sun-jdk: > > diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9 > openjdk-7.0.86 (requires diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9) > jdk-1.6.0.3p4_15 (requires diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9, and is "based on > 1.6.0_03 (aka 6u3)") > linux-sun-jdk-1.6.0.20 The problem is that java/jdk16 hasn't been updated for a LONG time. I gave up hope that it will be updated, and I've had to install java/openjdk6 instead, just to be able to start Freenet (from http://freenetproject.org/), because Freenet wouldn't start otherwise due to some big XML vulnerability in our old not yet updated java/jdk16. Maybe the problem is similar with Firefox 3.6? > It looks like the Linux version is the only one up-to-date enough for > Firefox 3.6. Would that only work with the Linux version of Firefox 3.6? If > so, then one must go outside of the ports collection to get it. [4] At this > time, the highest version I see in ports is linux-firefox-devel-3.5.9. > > > I suspect the best thing to do would be to go with a current JDK and an > older version of (native) Firefox, and not upgrade Firefox until the JDK > version gets to Java 6 Update 10, allowing the JDK to upgrade naturally > along with the rest of keeping my system up to date. If folks in-the-know > around here agree with that, I'll probably start a new thread 'Which JDK?', > as I find that confusing. > > Thanks, > Brian -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: office apps
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/06/2010 15:43:42, p...@pair.com wrote: > Am I the only one who has (force) installed open office from package > without java dependency and has yet to see a problem with MS Word & > simple Excel files? > > It took about 15 "seconds" of manual count to see an empty window > after typing "openoffice.org-3.0.0 -nologo". Hardware is ... > > Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7100 @ 1.80GHz (1795.52-MHz 686-class CPU) > ... > avail memory = 3119153152 (2974 MB) > ... > ad4: 305245MB at ata2-master UDMA100 > SATA 1.5Gb/s > (5400 rpm) I wonder about that. I'm sure there are quite a few pkgs where some of the registered dependencies are really optional, and the same pkg would work either with or without them. I know that databases/phpMyAdmin, which I maintain is like that. I did spend some time reading up on 'pkg_add -M' and 'pkg_add -S' -- in theory it should be possible to use pkg_add -M to extract the pkg contents, feed that into the stdin of a script, which pops up a dialogue allowing you to make those choices, edits the pkg on the way past and then feeds it to 'pkg_add -S' for final installation. Can't see how to force something like that to happen from a normal invocation of pkg_add(1) though. Would be a nice addition -- you could also emulate NOPORTDOCS and NOPORTEXAMPLES, except entirely with pkgs that way. Cheers, Matthew - -- Dr Matthew J Seaman MA, D.Phil. 7 Priory Courtyard Flat 3 PGP: http://www.infracaninophile.co.uk/pgpkey Ramsgate JID: matt...@infracaninophile.co.uk Kent, CT11 9PW -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.14 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwOZC0ACgkQ8Mjk52CukIxSRQCfV1yFrs2zzeI2RRC6qg4EJdzT BYAAnRbLFM6VWVb6dhY4G6NAWAvoFn2G =Oms2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: can i use flags at once?
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:59:40 + Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > hello, > > i am a gentoo user and now i am trying to install a freebsd on my > machine. ports are great but while my machine is compiling i receive > messages about the flags. > > in gentoo i was able via the file /etc/portage/package.use to > determine which flags i wanted to enable and which not. > > is there any way to do this in FreeBSD,since gentoo's portage is > based on ports. The only similar mechanism is /etc/make.conf where you can put flags such as USE_X11=yes or USE_GTK2=yes in order to build ports with X11 or Gtk2 support. Unlike Gentoo there's no central repository of valid flags. -- Bruce ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: office apps
On Jun 07 2010 22:12, Chris Hill wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010, Chip Camden wrote: > > >[...] I do have clients who send me Word docs, and one who requires that > >I send them specs in Word format. For that, I guess I'm stuck using > >some behemoth office tool, if only for converting from a different > >format. I'm currently doing that work on a Windows workstation, but I'd > >like to limit my involvement with Windows to only developing for it when > >I must. > > I have clients like that too. What I've done - only once or twice, and > really just to be a dick - is to do my writeup in ASCII text, then `mv foo > foo.doc`. There, it's in word format! And Word really can open the file, > so... > That's great -- I'll have to remember that one. -- Sterling (Chip) Camden | camdensoftware.com | chipstips.com | chipsquips.com ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: can i use flags at once?
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:47:29 +, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > for example when i was starting compiling kde i gave the commands, > > /usr/ports/x11/kde4 && make install clean > > after these commands,the kde package "asked" me which flags i want to use. This is okay. As long as options haven't been defined before, they are asked for interactively. For subsequent builds, they are stored. > with packages like this it is easy,but then i left away from the pc and when > i went back i saw that the system wanted my confirmation for some flags. A typical "problem", the solution is easy: "make config-recursive" will ask you PRIOR to any compiling for a specific port and its dependencies. Before knowing about this fine mechanism, I also was very annoyed of this forced interaction that stopped the building process many times. :-) The packages you can install via pkg_add have been compiled using default options, which may or may not fit your particular needs. > can i make all the flags confirmations in the begging of the installiation > of the packages? I mentioned "make config-recursive", but there are also tools like portmaster, portmanager and portupgrade that allow you to "remote- control" the ports system in a comfortable way. There are other make targets that may be interesting, such as the simple "make config", or "make rmconfig" and its recursive variant. See "man 7 ports" for a list of all available targets. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: can i use flags at once?
On 6/8/2010 9:50 AM, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > On 8 June 2010 14:47, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > >> for example when i was starting compiling kde i gave the commands, >> >> /usr/ports/x11/kde4 && make install clean >> >> after these commands,the kde package "asked" me which flags i want to use. >> >> with packages like this it is easy,but then i left away from the pc and >> when i went back i saw that the system wanted my confirmation for some >> flags. >> >> can i make all the flags confirmations in the begging of the installiation >> of the packages? >> http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?t=3718 -- Tim Daneliuk tun...@tundraware.com PGP Key: http://www.tundraware.com/PGP/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: can i use flags at once?
On 8 June 2010 14:47, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > for example when i was starting compiling kde i gave the commands, > > /usr/ports/x11/kde4 && make install clean > > after these commands,the kde package "asked" me which flags i want to use. > > with packages like this it is easy,but then i left away from the pc and > when i went back i saw that the system wanted my confirmation for some > flags. > > can i make all the flags confirmations in the begging of the installiation > of the packages? > > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: office apps
in message , wrote Alejandro Imass thusly... > > On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Chip Camden > wrote: > > On Jun 07 2010 11:21, Anh Ky Huynh wrote: > >> On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 13:34:16 -0700 Chip Camden > >> wrote: ... > >> > Does anyone have a recommendation for a lighter-weight office > >> > suite? OOo is such a pig. It takes a good minute to start it > >> > up and open a spreadsheet. > >> > >> There are some tips to speed up your Ooo. But if your Ooo took > >> minute to start, I guess that your system has a low hardware? > > > > I wouldn't have thought that an Intel Core i3 M350 (2.27Ghz) > > with 4GB would be considered "lo (sic) hardware". Everything > > else runs very quickly, even Windows 7 in VirtualBox. OOo is the > > only time I find myself waiting impatiently. ... > Anyway, chack to see if you may have a broken Java implementation, > and check to see if it's possible to get OO to work with Sun's JRE > 6, and give that a go and see. I have a gut feeling your problem > is related to a broken Java VM somewhere in your machine. Am I the only one who has (force) installed open office from package without java dependency and has yet to see a problem with MS Word & simple Excel files? It took about 15 "seconds" of manual count to see an empty window after typing "openoffice.org-3.0.0 -nologo". Hardware is ... Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7100 @ 1.80GHz (1795.52-MHz 686-class CPU) ... avail memory = 3119153152 (2974 MB) ... ad4: 305245MB at ata2-master UDMA100 SATA 1.5Gb/s (5400 rpm) "pkg_info -rx openoffice | sort -fu" shows ... Dependency: atk-1.28.0 Dependency: bitstream-vera-1.10_4 Dependency: cairo-1.8.8_1,1 Dependency: compositeproto-0.4 Dependency: damageproto-1.1.0_2 Dependency: desktop-file-utils-0.15_1 Dependency: encodings-1.0.2,1 Dependency: expat-2.0.1_1 Dependency: fixesproto-4.0 Dependency: font-bh-ttf-1.0.0 Dependency: font-misc-ethiopic-1.0.0 Dependency: font-misc-meltho-1.0.0_1 Dependency: font-util-1.0.1 Dependency: fontconfig-2.8.0,1 Dependency: freetype2-2.3.11 Dependency: gamin-0.1.10_3 Dependency: gdbm-1.8.3_3 Dependency: gettext-0.17_1 Dependency: gio-fam-backend-2.22.4 Dependency: glib-2.22.4 Dependency: gnome-mime-data-2.18.0_3 Dependency: gnome_subr-1.0 Dependency: gtk-2.18.7_1 Dependency: hicolor-icon-theme-0.12 Dependency: icu-3.8.1_3 Dependency: inputproto-1.5.0 Dependency: jpeg-8_1 Dependency: kbproto-1.0.3 Dependency: libart_lgpl-2.3.20,1 Dependency: libfontenc-1.0.4 Dependency: libICE-1.0.4_1,1 Dependency: libiconv-1.13.1_1 Dependency: libpthread-stubs-0.3_3 Dependency: libSM-1.1.0_1,1 Dependency: libX11-1.2.1_1,1 Dependency: libXau-1.0.4 Dependency: libXaw-1.0.5_1,1 Dependency: libxcb-1.5 Dependency: libXcomposite-0.4.0,1 Dependency: libXcursor-1.1.9_1 Dependency: libXdamage-1.1.1 Dependency: libXdmcp-1.0.2_1 Dependency: libXext-1.0.5,1 Dependency: libXfixes-4.0.3_1 Dependency: libXft-2.1.14 Dependency: libXi-1.2.1,1 Dependency: libXinerama-1.0.3,1 Dependency: libxml2-2.7.6_2 Dependency: libXmu-1.0.4,1 Dependency: libXp-1.0.0,1 Dependency: libXpm-3.5.7 Dependency: libXrandr-1.3.0 Dependency: libXrender-0.9.4_1 Dependency: libXt-1.0.5_1 Dependency: mkfontdir-1.0.4 Dependency: mkfontscale-1.0.6 Dependency: pango-1.26.2_2 Dependency: pcre-8.00 Dependency: pixman-0.16.6 Dependency: pkg-config-0.23_1 Dependency: png-1.4.1_1 Dependency: printproto-1.0.4 Dependency: randrproto-1.3.0 Dependency: renderproto-0.9.3 Dependency: shared-mime-info-0.71 Dependency: tiff-3.9.2_1 Dependency: xcb-util-0.3.6_1 Dependency: xextproto-7.0.5 Dependency: xf86vidmodeproto-2.2.2 Dependency: xineramaproto-1.1.2 Dependency: xorg-fonts-truetype-7.4 Dependency: xproto-7.0.15 Depends on: Information for en-openoffice.org-US-3.0.0: - parv -- ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards
Frank Bonnet writes: > OK thank you Antonio :-) Also, see the FAQ entry if you haven't already. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: which lang Freebsd developers are using.
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 14:02:23 +, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > hello, > > i was curious about the lang that FreeBSD developers use. > > in gentoo linux his developers are using bash coding,in kde they use c++,in > FreeBSD which language do they use? All of them. :-) The base system, for example, contains large portions of C. It also has several parts of sh scripts (FreeBSD's default scripting shell is the bourne shell, /bin/sh), as well as awk and m4 scripts. Oh, and it uses the english language for text. :-) There are various projects on FreeBSD, and many programming languages. And as they exist, they are used. It's not that FreeBSD is based upon _one_ programming or scripting language. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: Java plugin with Firefox 3.6
On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 17:24:47 -0400, Chuck Swiger wrote: On Jun 7, 2010, at 1:08 PM, Jerry wrote: [ ... ] I honestly enjoy satire. That said, it does not change the fact that a serviceable version of Java, suitable for Firefox-3.6, does not exist within the FreeBSD framework. That's pretty much accurate, if you don't want to consider running FF+Java under Linux emulation. [ ... ] High-level religious arguments aside, could we get a little advice the for newbie who wants to try using FreeBSD, but needs Java to work with Firefox? (As this is the 'questions' list, and not the 'debate what fBSD devs ought to be working on' list.) Here's what I know, for posterity sake.. Firefox 3.6 needs Java 6 Update 10. [1] For now, as a newbie, I generally try not to install anything not in the ports collection. From there you can find some JREs, but none are at Update 10, including Linux emulation. [2] At this time, the highest I see there is diablo-jre-1.6.0.07.02_8. That's okay, I really wanted the full JDK anyway, so I look for that. [3] There appears to be four flavors available; diablo-jdk, openjdk, jdk and linux-sun-jdk: diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9 openjdk-7.0.86 (requires diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9) jdk-1.6.0.3p4_15 (requires diablo-jdk-1.6.0.07.02_9, and is "based on 1.6.0_03 (aka 6u3)") linux-sun-jdk-1.6.0.20 It looks like the Linux version is the only one up-to-date enough for Firefox 3.6. Would that only work with the Linux version of Firefox 3.6? If so, then one must go outside of the ports collection to get it. [4] At this time, the highest version I see in ports is linux-firefox-devel-3.5.9. I suspect the best thing to do would be to go with a current JDK and an older version of (native) Firefox, and not upgrade Firefox until the JDK version gets to Java 6 Update 10, allowing the JDK to upgrade naturally along with the rest of keeping my system up to date. If folks in-the-know around here agree with that, I'll probably start a new thread 'Which JDK?', as I find that confusing. Thanks, Brian [1] http://java.com/en/download/faq/firefox_newplugin.xml [2] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=jre [3] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=jdk&sektion=java [4] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=linux-firefox ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: can i use flags at once?
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 13:59:40 +, Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote: > hello, > > i am a gentoo user and now i am trying to install a freebsd on my machine. > ports are great but while my machine is compiling i receive messages about > the flags. > > in gentoo i was able via the file /etc/portage/package.use to determine > which flags i wanted to enable and which not. > > is there any way to do this in FreeBSD,since gentoo's portage is based on > ports. I'm not perfectly clear on what you intend to question, but if you want to know how to tetermine options for a certain port, "make config" is used to set them. Various port management software is also able to store predefined options for port compilation in a central control file. In order to find out more about ports, read "man ports" as it explains everything very well. There are also flags that are defined in /etc/make.conf, like CFLAGS. Some ports allow setting OPTIMIZED_CFLAGS, e. g. mplayer. You may be more clear in providing an example (example port and flags, received message). -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: which lang Freebsd developers are using.
Which part of the system? Sorry for top-posting, Android won't let me quote. There's a bug report on it! On 8 Jun 2010 15:03, "Giorgos Tsiapaliokas" wrote: hello, i was curious about the lang that FreeBSD developers use. in gentoo linux his developers are using bash coding,in kde they use c++,in FreeBSD which language do they use? thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards
OK thank you Antonio :-) On 06/08/2010 03:11 PM, Antonio Vieiro wrote: > This may be of help: > > http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-2805.html > > Cheers, > Antonio > > 2010/6/8 Frank Bonnet : >> Hello All >> >> since few days I get those messages into console and /var/log/messages >> >> The machine is a IBM X3650 dual CPU , I've read it could be multi-cpu >> related but I am a bit confused in it. >> >> Does any guru could show me the light on how to stop those messages >> if possible , this has side effects on Dovecot IMAP server that kill >> himself when it trap that kind of error messages. >> >> >> Thank you >> >> >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1721 >> usec to 1377 usec for pid 684 (rpc.lockd) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 528 >> usec to 459 usec for pid 678 (rpc.statd) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1928 >> usec to 1906 usec for pid 643 (ypbind) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 2241 >> usec to 1793 usec for pid 643 (ypbind) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 9373 >> usec to 7545 usec for pid 628 (rpcbind) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 556 >> usec to 539 usec for pid 538 (devd) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 12152 >> usec to 9722 usec for pid 538 (devd) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 287 >> usec to 229 usec for pid 143 (adjkerntz) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 18 usec >> to 14 usec for pid 42 (sctp_iterator) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 711 >> usec to 569 usec for pid 39 (irq15: ata1) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 44 usec >> to 40 usec for pid 36 (usb3) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 35 usec >> to 31 usec for pid 35 (usb2) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1325 >> usec to 1060 usec for pid 23 (swi6: task queue) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 21246 >> usec to 20041 usec for pid 2 (g_event) >> Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 8572 >> usec to 7530 usec for pid 0 (swapper) >> ___ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" >> > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: can i use flags at once?
some ports have OPTIONS, then you can use make config / make
config-recursive (man ports)
others don't, then you can set them in /etc/make.conf, for example :
jci...@frodon ~ % cat /etc/make.conf
WITHOUT_APACHE="YES"
WITHOUT_IPV6="YES"
#WITHOUT_NLS="YES"
WITHOUT_KDE="YES"
WITHOUT_GNOME="YES"
.if ${.CURDIR:M*/x11/rxvt-unicode}
WITHOUT_AFTERIMAGE="yes"
.endif
.if ${.CURDIR:M*/editors/vim}
WITH_GTK2="yes"
.endif
(of course you can always use make -DWITH_FOO -DWITHOUT_BAR clean
install clean)
regards,
Julien
Giorgos Tsiapaliokas wrote:
hello,
i am a gentoo user and now i am trying to install a freebsd on my machine.
ports are great but while my machine is compiling i receive messages about
the flags.
in gentoo i was able via the file /etc/portage/package.use to determine
which flags i wanted to enable and which not.
is there any way to do this in FreeBSD,since gentoo's portage is based on
ports.
thanks in advance.
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which lang Freebsd developers are using.
hello, i was curious about the lang that FreeBSD developers use. in gentoo linux his developers are using bash coding,in kde they use c++,in FreeBSD which language do they use? thanks ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
can i use flags at once?
hello, i am a gentoo user and now i am trying to install a freebsd on my machine. ports are great but while my machine is compiling i receive messages about the flags. in gentoo i was able via the file /etc/portage/package.use to determine which flags i wanted to enable and which not. is there any way to do this in FreeBSD,since gentoo's portage is based on ports. thanks in advance. ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: office apps
On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:28:04 -0600, Chad Perrin wrote: > I've never had a client who wouldn't take either PDF or plain text. And five minutes later, they call you by phone and ask how they can edit the PDF file... :-) Just a friendly sidenote: > On > the other hand, clients who prefer Word DOC(X) but will take plain text > if they "must" have a tendency to immediately open it in Word, save as > DOC(X), then send the friggin' thing back to me in that format after > making some changes. You are aware that there is not "the" DOC format? The many various "Word" programs use slightly different formats, and rendering a document heavily depends on the current environment "Word" is running in, e. g. which fonts are installed, even which printer is installed - all this can have influence on how the document is opened. Furthermore, the DOCX format isn't really an open format. It *claims* to be standardized, but it's not; even MICROS~1 didn't implement it properly, and there are still blobs inside the XML, which can lead to problems. There are many problems you can encounter in import/export settings. So the only way to be sure is to use a standardized format. I've worked in a setting where interoperability was the main goal, because there were BSD, Linux, Solaris, Mac OS X and even "Windows" machines, and our choice was OpenOffice, which worked excellently across the platforms. It wouldn't have been possible with MICROS~1 binary garbage in between. :-) > I keep hoping the day will come when people who prefer MS Word are the > rarity, rather than me being the odd man out. It *will* happen, just consider the costs and the growing uncomfortability of those programs (not counting those who regularly use pirated copies to have "the same pictures at home" as they know them from work). :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards
This may be of help: http://forums.freebsd.org/archive/index.php/t-2805.html Cheers, Antonio 2010/6/8 Frank Bonnet : > Hello All > > since few days I get those messages into console and /var/log/messages > > The machine is a IBM X3650 dual CPU , I've read it could be multi-cpu > related but I am a bit confused in it. > > Does any guru could show me the light on how to stop those messages > if possible , this has side effects on Dovecot IMAP server that kill > himself when it trap that kind of error messages. > > > Thank you > > > Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1721 > usec to 1377 usec for pid 684 (rpc.lockd) > Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 528 > usec to 459 usec for pid 678 (rpc.statd) > Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1928 > usec to 1906 usec for pid 643 (ypbind) > Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 2241 > usec to 1793 usec for pid 643 (ypbind) > Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 9373 > usec to 7545 usec for pid 628 (rpcbind) > Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 556 > usec to 539 usec for pid 538 (devd) > Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 12152 > usec to 9722 usec for pid 538 (devd) > Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 287 > usec to 229 usec for pid 143 (adjkerntz) > Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 18 usec > to 14 usec for pid 42 (sctp_iterator) > Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 711 > usec to 569 usec for pid 39 (irq15: ata1) > Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 44 usec > to 40 usec for pid 36 (usb3) > Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 35 usec > to 31 usec for pid 35 (usb2) > Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1325 > usec to 1060 usec for pid 23 (swi6: task queue) > Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 21246 > usec to 20041 usec for pid 2 (g_event) > Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 8572 > usec to 7530 usec for pid 0 (swapper) > ___ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" > ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards
Hello All since few days I get those messages into console and /var/log/messages The machine is a IBM X3650 dual CPU , I've read it could be multi-cpu related but I am a bit confused in it. Does any guru could show me the light on how to stop those messages if possible , this has side effects on Dovecot IMAP server that kill himself when it trap that kind of error messages. Thank you Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1721 usec to 1377 usec for pid 684 (rpc.lockd) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 528 usec to 459 usec for pid 678 (rpc.statd) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1928 usec to 1906 usec for pid 643 (ypbind) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 2241 usec to 1793 usec for pid 643 (ypbind) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 9373 usec to 7545 usec for pid 628 (rpcbind) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 556 usec to 539 usec for pid 538 (devd) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 12152 usec to 9722 usec for pid 538 (devd) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 287 usec to 229 usec for pid 143 (adjkerntz) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 18 usec to 14 usec for pid 42 (sctp_iterator) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 711 usec to 569 usec for pid 39 (irq15: ata1) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 44 usec to 40 usec for pid 36 (usb3) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 35 usec to 31 usec for pid 35 (usb2) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 1325 usec to 1060 usec for pid 23 (swi6: task queue) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 21246 usec to 20041 usec for pid 2 (g_event) Jun 8 10:16:34 mail kernel: calcru: runtime went backwards from 8572 usec to 7530 usec for pid 0 (swapper) ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: minicom freebsd 8.0
Hi, Finally worked for me. Thanks all for your help. Below are the steps. 1. /var/log/messages has below message when ever usb port is inserted. > Unknown USB device: vendor 0x4348 product* 0x5523* bus uhub2 2. grepping for vendor no. > grep 0x4348 /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/* /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs:vendor WCH0x4348QinHeng Electronics > cat /usr/src/sys/dev/usb/usbdevs | grep WCH vendor WCH0x4348QinHeng Electronics /* WCH products */ product WCH CH341SER*0x5523 * CH341/CH340 USB-Serial Bridge product WCH2 CH341SER0x7523CH341/CH340 USB-Serial Bridge 3. After bit of googling with 'CH341/CH340 USB-Serial Bridge', found that specific module is missing. Added uchcom in to the config file and rebuilt the kernel and booted with it. > kldstat -v | grep uchcom 309 uhub/uchcom 4. After rebooting could see below messages i.e device being recognized as the module is already present ugen2.3: at usbus2 ucom0: on usbus2 ucom0: CH340 detected The device is created with name /dev/cuaU0 and it worked finally with minicom. Thanks, Akash. From: C. P. Ghost To: akash kumar Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sent: Wed, 2 June, 2010 3:36:54 PM Subject: Re: minicom freebsd 8.0 On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 11:30 AM, akash kumar wrote: > Hi, > > I was referring to minicom command similar to one on linux. > On linux the config file is /etc/minirc. and the Serial Device > is /dev/ttyUSB0, which was working for me. > On freebsd the config file is /usr/local/etc/minicom/minirc., > but not sure what to update in the field 'pu port'. > > I tried with /dev/ugen2.2 but got below error >> minicom: cannot open /dev/ugen2.2: Permission denied > > Please let me know what needs to be updated in the 'pu port' field. Ah, okay. ugen is a generic device. I think you can't use that directly if you have a usb-to-serial converter. I guess you need to kldload a kernel module specific to your usb-to-serial converter. For example something like uplcom, umodem etc. This would create a new entry in /dev that you can use in minicom. Permissions for those devices can be set in /etc/devfs.rules (and restarting devfs with /etc/rc.d/devfs restart). You may also want to look at /etc/devd.conf I'm not familiar with usb-to-serial converters, so I can't help more than that. Others may have more experience there. > Thanks, > Akash. -cpghost. -- Cordula's Web. http://www.cordula.ws/ ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Boosting up gigabit interface ?
Hello Does some anyone could give me a path to boost up the flow between a server and a Cisco 3750 switch if possible (jumbo frames ? ) ? The server is an IBM X3650 ( 7.2-RELEASE) with two Broadcom gigabit interfaces. ifconfig give that parameters : bce0: flags=8843 metric 0 mtu 1500 options=1bb ether 00:14:5e:dc:44:8e inet 147.215.1.3 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 147.215.1.255 media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseTX ) status: active the server is directly attached to the Cisco switch Thank you ___ freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: need help with apache22 and libphp5.so
On Tue, Jun 08, 2010 at 06:59:48AM +0100, Matthew Seaman wrote:
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> On 08/06/2010 03:58:13, Gary Kline wrote:
> > question number one, which port builds the apache php5
> > library? number two; is there one that will resolve the
> > missing 'ap_user_id'?
>
> Do you now, or did you once have apache13 installed on this machine? It
> sounds as if your lang/php5 port has linked against the wrong apache
> version.
Yes, and it is beyond bizarre since i've been using apache22
since jan, '08. i've followed the instructions in UPDATING
more than a dzn times since 6p.m. or so i finally looked
[and Saw] that libphp5.so was going into apache22 rather
than apache/; i.e.:
/usr/local/libexec/apache/libphp5.so. i'm almost certain.
it took more than three months late last summer -> fall to
move my server off an ancient hp tower and into a duo-core
dell. in the end i jmay have done a wholesale copy of the
binaries and done many upgrades. hours ago i did indeed have
to delete apache13.
>
> There have been some pretty important changes to the apache ports
> recently. Principally nowadays you have to have a separate devel/apr1
> port installed, instead of defaulting to the one bundled with apache.
Right. AS of 18may or so i guess the default is to use the
portable runtime libs [pl]. prior to this i was not AFAIK.
I keep the apache22 ports reasonably current by default, and
had not realized that my last portmaster and portupgrades had
gione awry. By sheer chance late afternoon i saw one of my
tabs was labelled with "Error"...
> See the 20100518 entry in /usr/ports/UPDATING. If you follow the
> instructions there to reinstall www/apache22, then reinstall lang/php5
> and all php5- or pecl- modules it should work better.
>
> Optionally, you can add "APACHE_PORT= www/apache22" to /etc/make.conf
> but it should come right without having to do that.
>
I hath donne that, Sire. {it may be a wee bit olde fashioned
to used /etc/make.conf to write such in stone, but by the
time apache22 is at, say, apache3x, i shall be long
departed!}
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