Re: UPS question

2010-08-12 Thread David Brodbeck
On Wed, August 11, 2010 1:18 pm, Ryan Coleman wrote:
 On Aug 11, 2010, at 3:06 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:

 On Wed, August 11, 2010 12:25 pm, Ryan Coleman wrote:
 He thinks that at 500W needed it would give me about 12 minutes on a
 1400VA. My consideration is, then, give the server 2 minutes on
 battery.
 If full power has not been returned, shut down the server but leave the
 modem (w/ wireless) and switch running with power for up to 6 hours.

 A bit of advice: If this is an unattended system, give some thought to
 how
 you will boot the server back up if the outage is longer than two
 minutes
 but shorter than six hours.  Most UPS installations have *some* kind of
 race condition issue if power comes back after the servers have begun a
 shutdown, but in your case it's an unusually long window.

 Meaning that my 2-minute window is unusually long? If the UPS can support
 the system for 12 minutes, I say give it 20% of the life of the support
 because our power outages here are usually spikes that kill my current web
 server (but amazingly *not* my file server). In fact, one of those power
 fluxes occurred last night. I love storms for the light shows, but hate
 them for the toll they take on my servers.

Nope, 2 minutes is fine, maybe even short depending on how long your
system takes to shut down.  What I'm asking about is this scenario:

1. Power goes out.
2. Server shuts itself down after 2 minutes.
3. Power comes back on before the UPS batteries are exhausted.

The server never sees a power cycle, so it doesn't boot itself back up
until someone physically goes and pushes the button.


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Re: ftp login failing after upgrade to 8.1

2010-08-12 Thread Robert Bonomi

 Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:23:22 -0700
 From: Chris Maness ch...@chrismaness.com
 To: Mark Tinguely marktingu...@gmail.com
 Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
 Subject: Re: ftp login failing after upgrade to 8.1

 On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:19 PM, Mark Tinguely marktingu...@gmail.com wro=
 te:
  Chris Maness wrote:
 
  On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Mark Tinguely marktingu...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
 
  Chris Maness wrote:
 
 
  I just upgraded to FreeBSD 8.1 and my regular user name seems to be
  disallowed for ftp. =A0I checked and my name or group does not seem to
  show up in ftpusers. =A0Any suggestions as to what might have happened=
 ?
 
  Thanks,
  Chris Maness
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  Do you use a shell that is no longer in /etc/shells?
 
  --Mark.
 
 
 
  Yes, I use bash. =A0Should I add bash to the shells file?
 
  Thanks,
  Chris Maness
 
 
 
  yes, the full path to bash. And /etc/shells is overwritten during upgrade=
 s.
 
 

 It is logging in now, but getting some strange connection refused when
 I try a file transfer or list the contents of a directory.

symptomatic of a firewall problem.

Issue the command PASV at the ftp prompt and then try things.

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Grepping a list of words

2010-08-12 Thread Jack L. Stone
Kindly appreciate help with how to grep (or similar) a list of words to
determine if any of them are in a file rather than grepping one word at a
time.

Thanks for any suggestions...

All the best,
Jack

(^_^)
Happy trails,
Jack L. Stone

System Admin
Sage-american
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Re: UPS question

2010-08-12 Thread Ryan Coleman

On Aug 11, 2010, at 6:01 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:

 On Wed, August 11, 2010 1:18 pm, Ryan Coleman wrote:
 On Aug 11, 2010, at 3:06 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:
 
 On Wed, August 11, 2010 12:25 pm, Ryan Coleman wrote:
 He thinks that at 500W needed it would give me about 12 minutes on a
 1400VA. My consideration is, then, give the server 2 minutes on
 battery.
 If full power has not been returned, shut down the server but leave the
 modem (w/ wireless) and switch running with power for up to 6 hours.
 
 A bit of advice: If this is an unattended system, give some thought to
 how
 you will boot the server back up if the outage is longer than two
 minutes
 but shorter than six hours.  Most UPS installations have *some* kind of
 race condition issue if power comes back after the servers have begun a
 shutdown, but in your case it's an unusually long window.
 
 Meaning that my 2-minute window is unusually long? If the UPS can support
 the system for 12 minutes, I say give it 20% of the life of the support
 because our power outages here are usually spikes that kill my current web
 server (but amazingly *not* my file server). In fact, one of those power
 fluxes occurred last night. I love storms for the light shows, but hate
 them for the toll they take on my servers.
 
 Nope, 2 minutes is fine, maybe even short depending on how long your
 system takes to shut down.  What I'm asking about is this scenario:
 
 1. Power goes out.
 2. Server shuts itself down after 2 minutes.
 3. Power comes back on before the UPS batteries are exhausted.
 
 The server never sees a power cycle, so it doesn't boot itself back up
 until someone physically goes and pushes the button.

Good points. I just want to make sure it has a safe shutdown (the usual reason 
for a UPS) but it will be set with a BIOS turn on time if it is not on. This is 
for a mirrored archive that updates overnight. If it is in the middle of the 
process it will kill and shut off.

Most power outages in my area are 1) during the hottest days of the summer - 
like today and 2) last less than 60 seconds. It's biggest draw is to give it a 
steady stream of power.

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Page fault in kernel when using CD, BSD 7.2

2010-08-12 Thread Mark Terribile

Hi,

 Second problem: on a machine (Core 2 Quad, 2.24 GHz) the
 CD/DVD drive has started to give me page faults in the kernel.
  The press any key on the console to halt the reboot does
 not work.

Okay, now it's happening with nothing but the fsck running.
It takes maybe fifteen minutes.  I'm using an ASUS P5N7A-VM mobo,
AMI BIOS.  The NB heatsink is barely warm (fan cooled), the
memory is just warm to the touch, I've blown everything out,
etc.  I've got two SATA disks (Seagate and WD), in a carrier
well-ventilated by a fan.  They are barely warm.  The CD was
not in use.  Ambient temperature is about 83 to 86F and this
machine is a mobo on a standoffs on a board (until I free up
the case it's supposed to go in).

Granted that I may have a HW problem, but does the way the
problem has manifested suggest anything about where to start?

Mark Terribile
materrib...@yahoo.com


  
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Anyone client-bridge'ing with ath(4) ?

2010-08-12 Thread Brian A. Seklecki (CFI NOC)

All:

  It's a bit hard to track where we stand with this issue.  Is
  anyone having success running client-bridge (wifi0 in client
  mode, briding to wired interfaces)?

  From assorted posts,  I understand ath(4) can't transmit from
  arbitrary source MACs or there's some limitation to the the
  802.11 layer?

  It seems to work as long as the wifi(4) interface is in HostAP
  mode, but I havn't tested it (not looking to do this; well,
  maybe host-bridge-repeater)

  I do this all the time in DD-WRT on crappy Asus SOHO gear
  running Atheros 2xxx and 7xxx chips, so you would think it
  easy.

~BAS


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Page fault in kernel when using CD, BSD 7.2

2010-08-12 Thread Mark Terribile

Hi,

In the last two days I've had two nasty problems on two machines.  The first 
started dumping core on epiphany, apparently when the Javascript garbage 
collector ran.  I found that the fan on the video card was running and 
stopping.  I jury-rigged a fan over it (until I get a new one) and the problem 
has gone away.  Probably nothing to do with the second problem,
but who knows?

Second problem: on a machine (Core 2 Quad, 2.24 GHz) the CD/DVD drive has
started to give me page faults in the kernel.  The press any key on the
console to halt the reboot does not work.  I've been using this drive on
and off for months.  I've checked all the connections (PATA), blown out
the machine (the temperatures reported by sysctl range from 50 to 59
degrees from core to core), and put a different power lead into the
drive.

Sometimes the console gets large transfer errors (I don't want to excite
the problem right now, as the fsck is finally running) before the fault.
The disk transfers don't work, the drive won't open, the process can't
be interrupted, etc.

The error usually comes a few minutes after the drive stops working.

Yes, the processor is running a little hot, but I don't think it's
dangerous and its been like this for months.  I have a compact heat
sink on it and the interaction between the rotor/stator fan and the
CPU speed control reduces the speed too much at low load.  But again,
it's been like that for months.

Does anyone have any suggestions?  Is it worth trying a new PATA or SATA
drive?

Mark Terribile
materrib...@yahoo.com


  
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Re: Jail from dump/restore?

2010-08-12 Thread Christer Solskogen
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 10:57 PM, Chris Maness ch...@chrismaness.com wrote:
 Is it possible to create a jail from a dump/restore of a real system.
 If so, would I just restore the dump to the jail tld?


That should be possible yes. But it's probably a better idea to just
create a new jail and transfer the data, then you'll get rid of old
cruft.

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Re: UPS question

2010-08-12 Thread Michael Powell
Oliver Fromme wrote:

 Ryan Coleman ryan.cole...@cwis.biz wrote:
   He thinks that at 500W needed it would give me about 12 minutes on
   a 1400VA.
 
 That W and VA numbers of the UPS are pretty much irrelevant,
 because they tell nothing about the capacity of the battery.
 Those numbers only give an upper limit on the power that
 the UPS can handle (i.e. you cannot connect devices totalling
 800 W to a 500 W UPS, for example).
 
 In order to be able to estimate how long the UPS can power
 wattage, you need to know the capacity of the battery.
 The capacity is usually given in Ah units (Ampere hours).
 
 For example, a battery with 10 Ah capacity can deliver
 10 Ampere for 1 hour, or 20 Ampere for 30 minutes, or
 30 Ampere for 20 Minutes ...  and so on.
 At a typical battery voltage of 12 V, 30 A would be 360 W.
 
 So, theoretically a 10 Ah battery would be able to hold
 devices that use 360 W for about 20 Minutes.  In practice
 it will be less because no UPS has 100% efficiency.
 
 Best regards
Oliver
 

Another often overlooked detail is how long the battery will last. These 
amp-hour figures are all for new batteries, and the number of 
discharge/charge cycles has some effect over time as well. Generally 
speaking when a UPS just sits there and does very little the batteries are 
like new for the first two years. Somewhere into year 3 they begin to nose 
over the derating curve. So at year 3.75 they will have signifigantly less 
full power runtime than when new. The quality of manufacture for the 
batteries controls this, for example with lead-acid how much metal goes into 
the plates.

I admit to being bitten a time or two: There is a certain tendency to put 
the UPS in the rack and walk away and forget all about it. I've learned the 
hard way to keep records so I can replace weak batteries in a timely 
fashion. Or this happens: But that server should have been able to stay up 
20 minutes instead of crashing at 7 minutes... 

-Mike


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Re : How to connect a jail to the web ?

2010-08-12 Thread Brice ERRANDONEA
192.168.1.38 is the private address of rl0 on my host. 93.0.168.242 is the 
public one. I tried both as the jail's address. With the private one, neither 
portsnap nor ping work at all.

With the public one, I get this result :


FreeBSD# sysctl security.jail.allow_raw_sockets=1
security.jail.allow_raw_sockets: 0 - 1
FreeBSD# /etc/rc.d/jail onestart server
Configuring jails:.
Starting jails: MaPrison.
FreeBSD# jexec 1 portsnap fetch
jexec: jail_attach(1): Invalid argument
FreeBSD# jls
   JID  IP Address  Hostname  Path
 2  93.0.168.242MaPrison  /usr/prison
FreeBSD# jexec 2 portsnap fetch
Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found.
Fetching public key from portsnap.FreeBSD.org... failed.
No mirrors remaining, giving up.
FreeBSD# jexec 2 ping www.yahoo.fr
ping: cannot resolve www.yahoo.fr: Host name lookup failure
FreeBSD# jexec 2 ping 69.147.83.33
PING 69.147.83.33 (69.147.83.33): 56 data bytes

Then, nothing during a few minutes, so I used :

^C  
--- 69.147.83.33 ping statistics ---
32 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss

Data can be sent to the net now but it seems they can't come back.

I also tried after opening the jail the same way you do :

FreeBSD# jail /usr/prison MaPrison 93.0.168.242 /bin/sh -E
# ping 69.147.83.33
PING 69.147.83.33 (69.147.83.33): 56 data bytes
^C
--- 69.147.83.33 ping statistics ---
30 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss
# portsnap fetch
Looking up portsnap.FreeBSD.org mirrors... none found.
Fetching public key from portsnap.FreeBSD.org... failed.
No mirrors remaining, giving up.
#





De : Oliver Fromme o...@lurza.secnetix.de
À : freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; berrando...@yahoo.fr
Envoyé le : Mer 11 août 2010, 22h 55min 11s
Objet : Re: How to connect a jail to the web ?

Brice ERRANDONEA berrando...@yahoo.fr wrote:
 Oliver Fromme wrote:
  sysctl security.jail.allow_raw_sockets=1
 
 I did it but ping still doesn't work.

Which IP address are you using for the jail now?

If you're using 127.0.0.1, you can only ping the host's
own IP addresses, because packets with a localnet IP
never leave a machine.

If you're using the real address (192.168.1.38) for
the jail, then you should be able to ping all addresses
that you can ping from the host.  I just did a quick
test on my machine; it has the IP address 172.20.0.2
(which is being translated with NAT on my router, but
that doesn't matter):

HOST# sysctl security.jail.allow_raw_sockets=1
security.jail.allow_raw_sockets: 0 - 1
HOST# jail / testjail 172.20.0.2 /bin/sh -E
# ping www.google.com
PING www.l.google.com (66.102.13.105): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 66.102.13.105: icmp_seq=0 ttl=54 time=31.196 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.13.105: icmp_seq=1 ttl=54 time=25.553 ms
64 bytes from 66.102.13.105: icmp_seq=2 ttl=54 time=27.086 ms

   192.168.1.38 is the host's ip so I use 127.0.0.1 for the jail.
 
  Well, localnet addresses are not routed.  If you give your
  jail a localnet address, it won't be able to access the
  network outside of the host.  (Unless you take measures
  to rewrite/translate the addresses and forward them.)
  That's why DNS and portsnap don't work.
 
  I suggest using the address 192.168.1.38 for the jail,
  at least during installation.  Make sure that the file
  /etc/resolv.conf inside the jail is correct, so DNS will
  work.  Copying it from the host should be sufficient.
 
 Isn't 192.168.1.38 a localnet address too ?

It's a private address (RFC 1918).  I assume that you've got
a NAT router that translates it to a public IP address.

 Do you mean I should use the public ip of my computer here  ?

Do you have one?  So far you only mentioned 192.168.1.38.

 I thought it was intended to be impossible to access the host from the jail.

It depends on what you want to do with the jail.  Jails can
be used for vastly different purposes.

 But you're right : I'll forget that.

Good.  :-)

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re: Skype

2010-08-12 Thread Alex Huth
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 08:00:28AM -1000, p...@pair.com wrote:
 in message 20100811124006.ga2...@borusse.ewmr.base,
 wrote Alex Huth thusly...
 
  Is anyone using skype on freebsd 8 and can tell me how to do the
  setup?  Seem to be that there is no port and on the website i find
  no package for freebsd.
 
 Well, version 1.x does not work at all as in I was not able to log
 in after generating an account via web.  Version 2.x as it existed
 in ports not too long ago was broken due to missing source file (not
 as in raw code but as in binaries).
 
 Then I searched for a possible solution that led me to download ...
 
   http://kobyla.info/soft/distfiles/skype_static-2.0.0.72-oss.tar.bz2
 
 ... in /misc/ports/distfiles; edit net/skype/Makefile to set proper
 PORTVERSION;  generate net/skpe/distinfo which led to successful
 install  use of skype as in I could log in with the same password 
 userid generated earlier  place a call or two.
 
 
   - parv
 
 -- 
 

Thanks, works like a charm! Great!
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Re: How to connect a jail to the web ?

2010-08-12 Thread Oliver Fromme
David Allen the.real.david.al...@gmail.com wrote:
  I've read comments in the past about setting up jails using local
  loopback addresses, but I'm wondering if you wouldn't mind elaborating
  on what the actual pf rules would look like.
  
  Say you have 3 jails and more than one public IP address:
  
ns127.0.0.2   public_ip_1
mail  127.0.0.3   public_ip_2
www   127.0.0.4   public_ip_3
  
  You want to pass port 25 traffic to/from the 'mail' jail.  But you also
  need that jail to use the correct public_ip address.  Is that possible
  without using, for example, pf's binat?

Just for completeness, this is a little how-to that
describes how you do it with IPFW.  You do not have to
configure NAT.  One single fwd rule is sufficient.
The following example works on FreeBSD 8.1.

In this example, I'll use port 42, the jail has address
127.0.0.2 on lo0, and nc (netcat) is used in place of a
real daemon.  The real (external) address of the host
machine is 10.5.5.5.

HOST# is the prompt of the server machine that hosts the
jail, JAIL# is the prompt within that host machine's
jail, and CLIENT$ is the prompt of a separate physical
machine on the same network which is used for testing
purposes.

First add an alias IP to the lo0 (localnet) interface.

HOST# ifconfig lo0 inet 127.0.0.2/32 alias

In order to make that permament, you have to add an
alias line to /etc/rc.conf, of course:

ifconfig_lo0_alias0=inet 127.0.0.2/32

Check the addresses:

HOST# ifconfig lo0 | grep -w inet
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00 
inet 127.0.0.2 netmask 0x 

Install the IPFW fwd rule:

HOST# ipfw add 1 fwd 127.0.0.2 tcp from any to 10.5.5.5 42
1 fwd 127.0.0.2 tcp from any to 10.5.5.5 dst-port 42

To make that permanent, add these lines to /etc/rc.conf:

firewall_enable=YES
firewall_type=/etc/ipfw.conf

And create a file /etc/ipfw.conf containing these lines:

-f flush
add fwd 127.0.0.2 tcp from any to 10.5.5.5 42

Ok, now start the jail.  For the sake of this example,
we simply re-use the host's installed base, i.e. the
jail's root path is /.  For a real jail you would
use the jail's root directory, of course.

HOST# jail / testjail 127.0.0.2 /bin/sh -E

Finally start a netcat (nc) process in the jail.
In a real jail, this would be an apache process on
port 80, a mail transfer agent on port 25, whatever.

JAIL# nc -ln 42

Now the netcat process is listening on port 42 inside
the jail on the localnet address 127.0.0.2.  You can
verify that with sockstat(1) on the host:

HOST# sockstat | grep -w 42
root nc 1953  3  tcp4   127.0.0.2:42  *:*

You can now connect to that service from a different
system on the network, using the external IP address
of the host.  The IPFW fwd rule reroutes the packets
destined for port 42 to the jail's localnet address.

CLIENT$ echo Hello world | nc 10.5.5.5 42

As a result, netcat will echo the string Hello world
in the jail, and the nc process will terminate.

Note:  In order to be able to use IPFW fwd rules, you
should have these two lines in your kernel config:

optionsIPFIREWALL
optionsIPFIREWALL_FORWARD

If you don't intend to use IPFW for anything else than
fwd, you can also include the following line, so you
don't have to install any additional allow rules:

optionsIPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT

That's especially useful if you want to use IPFW for
forwarding only, and use another software for actual
packet filtering (i.e. pf or ipf).

Best regards
   Oliver

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hast

2010-08-12 Thread Julien Cigar

Hello,

I would like to test HAST / CARP as a cheap redundant storage solution.
Apart NFS, are there other ways to export the file system of the HAST box?

Thanks,
Julien

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Re: Grepping a list of words

2010-08-12 Thread Daniel Bye
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 06:00:22PM -0500, Jack L. Stone wrote:
 Kindly appreciate help with how to grep (or similar) a list of words to
 determine if any of them are in a file rather than grepping one word at a
 time.

Something like this should do the trick:

egrep (word1|word2|word3) file

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Re: Grepping a list of words

2010-08-12 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 06:00:22PM -0500, Jack L. Stone wrote:
 Kindly appreciate help with how to grep (or similar) a list of words to
 determine if any of them are in a file rather than grepping one word at a
 time.

put the list in a file, and use grep -f

better, use the \ and \ markers on the file's contents and use egrep.

(grep -w option is likely to be buggy when available).

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Re: Grepping a list of words

2010-08-12 Thread Anonymous
Jack L. Stone ja...@sage-american.com writes:

 Kindly appreciate help with how to grep (or similar) a list of words to
 determine if any of them are in a file rather than grepping one word at a
 time.

Perhaps, `-e' option?

  $ printf 'foo\nbar\n' | fgrep -e foo -e bar
  foo
  bar
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RE: Page fault in kernel when using CD, BSD 7.2

2010-08-12 Thread Graeme Dargie


-Original Message-
From: Mark Terribile [mailto:materrib...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: 12 August 2010 03:32
To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject: Page fault in kernel when using CD, BSD 7.2


Hi,

In the last two days I've had two nasty problems on two machines.  The
first started dumping core on epiphany, apparently when the Javascript
garbage collector ran.  I found that the fan on the video card was
running and stopping.  I jury-rigged a fan over it (until I get a new
one) and the problem has gone away.  Probably nothing to do with the
second problem,
but who knows?

Second problem: on a machine (Core 2 Quad, 2.24 GHz) the CD/DVD drive
has
started to give me page faults in the kernel.  The press any key on the
console to halt the reboot does not work.  I've been using this drive
on
and off for months.  I've checked all the connections (PATA), blown out
the machine (the temperatures reported by sysctl range from 50 to 59
degrees from core to core), and put a different power lead into the
drive.

Sometimes the console gets large transfer errors (I don't want to excite
the problem right now, as the fsck is finally running) before the fault.
The disk transfers don't work, the drive won't open, the process can't
be interrupted, etc.

The error usually comes a few minutes after the drive stops working.

Yes, the processor is running a little hot, but I don't think it's
dangerous and its been like this for months.  I have a compact heat
sink on it and the interaction between the rotor/stator fan and the
CPU speed control reduces the speed too much at low load.  But again,
it's been like that for months.

Does anyone have any suggestions?  Is it worth trying a new PATA or SATA
drive?

Mark Terribile
materrib...@yahoo.com


Might be worthwhile running memtest on the machine.

Regards

Graeme


  
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Qlogic FC controller

2010-08-12 Thread Arek Czereszewski

Hi

We are planning to buy new servers which we would like
connect to disk array via FC.

We have 2 options for this servers:
Qlogic QLE2462 or QLE2460.

I check in isp man but only 2432 and 2422 are supported.
Is any chance to use one of this cards on freebsd?

I found some informations about working QLA2460 on current.

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Re: Grepping a list of words

2010-08-12 Thread Rodrigo Gonzalez
On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 18:00:22 -0500
Jack L. Stone ja...@sage-american.com wrote:

 Kindly appreciate help with how to grep (or similar) a list of words
 to determine if any of them are in a file rather than grepping one
 word at a time.
 

Use egrep

egrep (word1|word2) file


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Re: Page fault in kernel when using CD, BSD 7.2

2010-08-12 Thread Mark Terribile

Hi,

 Second problem: on a machine (Core 2 Quad, 2.24 GHz) the
 CD/DVD drive has started to give me page faults in the kernel.
 The press any key on the console to halt the reboot does
 not work.
 
 Okay, now it's happening with nothing but the fsck
 running.
 It takes maybe fifteen minutes.

Okay, I've got a suspect.

I got it past the fsck by going ino Single User and doing
the file systems one disk at a time.  (Two on this
machine).  I suspect the power supply has gone marginal.

My spare is much bigger than the what I need for this machine;
I'll wait on a replacement if I can.  And I'll let you all
know.

Thanks to those who've written.

Mark Terribile
materrib...@yahoo.com



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Re: Grepping a list of words

2010-08-12 Thread Arthur Chance

On 08/12/10 00:00, Jack L. Stone wrote:

Kindly appreciate help with how to grep (or similar) a list of words to
determine if any of them are in a file rather than grepping one word at a
time.


fgrep, aka grep -F

A snippet from man grep:

   -F, --fixed-strings
  Interpret  PATTERN as a list of fixed strings, separated
  by newlines, any of which is to be matched.

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Re: Grepping a list of words

2010-08-12 Thread Ashish SHUKLA
Jack L Stone writes:
 Kindly appreciate help with how to grep (or similar) a list of words to
 determine if any of them are in a file rather than grepping one word at a
 time.

#v+
% egrep 'word1|word2|word3|...|wordn' filename.txt
#v-

'word1|word2|word3|...|wordn' is the regular expression, so if you can
minimize it better for you :).

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Re: Qlogic FC controller

2010-08-12 Thread claudiu vasadi
Hi,

If you check http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.1R/hardware.html you will see
that both are supported by the isp(4) driver
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Re: Qlogic FC controller

2010-08-12 Thread Arek Czereszewski

W dniu 2010-08-12 13:50, claudiu vasadi pisze:

Hi,

If you check http://www.freebsd.org/releases/8.1R/hardware.html you will see
that both are supported by the isp(4) driver



In man are only 2432 and 2422 also on 8.1 hardware site.
Or maybe I'm blind.

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Re: Qlogic FC controller

2010-08-12 Thread claudiu vasadi
Arek,

man isp shows:

   Qlogic 2422
   Qlogic 2422 Optical Fibre Channel PCI cards (4 Gigabit)

   Qlogic 2432
   Qlogic 2432 Optical Fibre Channel PCIe cards (4 Gigabit)


and the hw list shows the same.

What exactly are you trying to say here ?
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Re: Grepping a list of words

2010-08-12 Thread Jack L. Stone
At 05:14 PM 8.12.2010 +0530, Ashish SHUKLA wrote:
Jack L Stone writes:
 Kindly appreciate help with how to grep (or similar) a list of words to
 determine if any of them are in a file rather than grepping one word at a
 time.

#v+
% egrep 'word1|word2|word3|...|wordn' filename.txt
#v-

'word1|word2|word3|...|wordn' is the regular expression, so if you can
minimize it better for you :).

HTH
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Thanks for the replies. This suggestion won't do the job as the list of
words is very long, maybe 50-60. This is why I asked how to place them all
in a file. One reply dealt with using a file with egrep. I'll try that.

Appreciate the help and any others in case the one doesn't work.

All the best,
Jack

(^_^)
Happy trails,
Jack L. Stone

System Admin
Sage-american
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Re: Qlogic FC controller

2010-08-12 Thread Arek Czereszewski

W dniu 2010-08-12 14:04, claudiu vasadi pisze:

Arek,

man isp shows:

Qlogic 2422
Qlogic 2422 Optical Fibre Channel PCI cards (4 Gigabit)

Qlogic 2432
Qlogic 2432 Optical Fibre Channel PCIe cards (4 Gigabit)


and the hw list shows the same.

What exactly are you trying to say here ?


Yes but in servers are 2460, 2462 or some emulex only.

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Re: Re : How to connect a jail to the web ?

2010-08-12 Thread Oliver Fromme
Brice ERRANDONEA berrando...@yahoo.fr wrote:
  192.168.1.38 is the private address of rl0 on my host. 93.0.168.242 is the 
  public one. I tried both as the jail's address. With the private one, 
  neither 
  portsnap nor ping work at all.
  
  With the public one, I get this result :
  [...]
  FreeBSD# jexec 2 ping www.yahoo.fr
  ping: cannot resolve www.yahoo.fr: Host name lookup failure
  FreeBSD# jexec 2 ping 69.147.83.33
  PING 69.147.83.33 (69.147.83.33): 56 data bytes
  [...]
  32 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100.0% packet loss

Please show the _complete_ output from ifconfig and netstat -rnfinet.

Best regards
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ISC eventlib

2010-08-12 Thread PALAIA, FRANK J (ATTSI)
Hello folks,
I'm a big fan of your work.
I'm working on an application that essentially requires an eventlib
(evSetTimer, etc.)
All the research I've done points to bind9 and, I guess, trying to
extract it from there.
I actually tried extracting some files from bind9 and building a
libevent.a but it core dumps some time.
My question is does anyone know where I can get an ISC eventlib package
to install in my FreeBSD env.
Thanks
-frank

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ZFS data from snv_b134 to fbsd

2010-08-12 Thread Dick Hoogendijk
 I want to transfer a lot of ZFS data from an old OpenSolaris ZFS 
mirror (v22) to a new FreeBSD-8.1 ZFs mirror (v14).
If I boot off the OpenSolaris boot CD and import both mirrors will the 
copying from v22 ZFS to v14 ZFS be harmless?
I'm not sure if this is teh right mailinglist for this question. Let me 
know.

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Re : Re : How to connect a jail to the web ?

2010-08-12 Thread Brice ERRANDONEA
Here they are.

On the host, when the jail is not running :

%ifconfig
rl0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=8VLAN_MTU
ether 00:11:09:15:72:6a
inet 192.168.1.38 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
status: active
fwe0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=8VLAN_MTU
ether 02:11:06:99:8a:ff
ch 1 dma -1
fwip0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
lladdr 0.11.6.66.0.99.8a.ff.a.2.ff.fe.0.0.0.0
plip0: flags=8810POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384
options=3RXCSUM,TXCSUM
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
nd6 options=3PERFORMNUD,ACCEPT_RTADV
%netstat -rnfinet
Routing tables

Internet:
DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs  Use  Netif Expire
default192.168.1.1UGS16  434rl0
127.0.0.1  link#5 UH  0   20lo0
192.168.1.0/24 link#1 U   1   98rl0
192.168.1.38   link#1 UHS 00lo0

On the host when the jail is running :

FreeBSD# jls
   JID  IP Address  Hostname  Path
 1  93.0.168.242MaPrison  /usr/prison
FreeBSD# ifconfig
rl0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=8VLAN_MTU
ether 00:11:09:15:72:6a
inet 192.168.1.38 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
inet 93.0.168.242 netmask 0x broadcast 93.0.168.242
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
status: active
fwe0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=8VLAN_MTU
ether 02:11:06:99:8a:ff
ch 1 dma -1
fwip0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
lladdr 0.11.6.66.0.99.8a.ff.a.2.ff.fe.0.0.0.0
plip0: flags=8810POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384
options=3RXCSUM,TXCSUM
inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5
inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128
inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff00
nd6 options=3PERFORMNUD,ACCEPT_RTADV
FreeBSD# netstat -rnfinet
Routing tables

Internet:
DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs  Use  Netif Expire
default192.168.1.1UGS 0  474rl0
93.0.168.242   link#1 UHS 0   20lo0 =
93.0.168.242/32link#1 U   00rl0
127.0.0.1  link#5 UH  0   20lo0
192.168.1.0/24 link#1 U   0  102rl0
192.168.1.38   link#1 UHS 00lo0

In the jail (running, of course) :

FreeBSD# jexec 1 ifconfig
rl0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=8VLAN_MTU
ether 00:11:09:15:72:6a
inet 93.0.168.242 netmask 0x broadcast 93.0.168.242
media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)
status: active
fwe0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
options=8VLAN_MTU
ether 02:11:06:99:8a:ff
ch 1 dma -1
fwip0: flags=8802BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
lladdr 0.11.6.66.0.99.8a.ff.a.2.ff.fe.0.0.0.0
plip0: flags=8810POINTOPOINT,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
lo0: flags=8049UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 16384
options=3RXCSUM,TXCSUM
FreeBSD# jexec 1 netstat -rnfinet
Routing tables

Internet:
DestinationGatewayFlagsRefs  Use  Netif Expire
default192.168.1.1UGS 0  480rl0
93.0.168.242   link#1 UHS 0   20lo0 =
93.0.168.242/32link#1 U   00rl0
127.0.0.1  link#5 UH  0   20lo0
192.168.1.0/24 link#1 U   0  102rl0
192.168.1.38   link#1 UHS 00lo0

Do you find what's wrong ?

Brice






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Envoyé le : Jeu 12 août 2010, 14h 52min 00s
Objet : Re: Re : How to connect a jail to the web ?

Brice ERRANDONEA berrando...@yahoo.fr wrote:
 192.168.1.38 is the private address of rl0 on my host. 93.0.168.242 is the 
 public one. I tried both as the jail's address. With the private one, neither 
 portsnap nor ping work at all.
 
 With the public one, I get this result :
 [...]
 FreeBSD# jexec 2 ping www.yahoo.fr
 ping: cannot resolve www.yahoo.fr: Host name lookup failure
 FreeBSD# jexec 2 ping 69.147.83.33
 PING 

Re: Re : Re : How to connect a jail to the web ?

2010-08-12 Thread Oliver Fromme
Brice ERRANDONEA berrando...@yahoo.fr wrote:
  On the host, when the jail is not running :
  
  %ifconfig
  rl0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
  options=8VLAN_MTU
  ether 00:11:09:15:72:6a
  inet 192.168.1.38 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
  media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)

OK, so 192.168.1.38 is the only (non-localnet) IP address that
you have.  You should use that one for your jail.

  On the host when the jail is running :
  
  FreeBSD# jls
 JID  IP Address  Hostname  Path
   1  93.0.168.242MaPrison  /usr/prison
  FreeBSD# ifconfig
  rl0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST metric 0 mtu 1500
  options=8VLAN_MTU
  ether 00:11:09:15:72:6a
  inet 192.168.1.38 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255
  inet 93.0.168.242 netmask 0x broadcast 93.0.168.242
  media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX full-duplex)

Where did you get that second IP address from?  Did you just
add it manually?  Or is that the address that your gateway
(DSL router, whatever) got assigned from your ISP?

I assume that IP address is not really routed to your host,
but that NAT (Network Address Translation) is used on your
router.  So you cannot use that address on the host.
(If that's not true, please exlain the structure of your
network in more detail.)

So, if my assumptions are true, you must use the address
192.168.1.38 for your jail.  Make sure that DNS is working
inside the jail ...  It should be sufficient to copy
/etc/resolv.conf from the host to /usr/prison/etc/resolv.conf

If it still doesn't work:  Are you using any packet filter
(ipfw, ipf, pf)?  If so, please show the complete list of
rules.

Otherwise, it might help to run tcpdump(1) on the host, so
you can see the actual packets that are transmitted and
received.

Best regards
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Re: Grepping a list of words

2010-08-12 Thread John Levine
% egrep 'word1|word2|word3|...|wordn' filename.txt

Thanks for the replies. This suggestion won't do the job as the list of
words is very long, maybe 50-60. This is why I asked how to place them all
in a file. One reply dealt with using a file with egrep. I'll try that.

Gee, 50 words, that's about a 300 character pattern, that's not a problem
for any shell or version of grep I know.

But reading the words from a file is equivalent and as you note most
likely easier to do.

R's,
John
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X11 question

2010-08-12 Thread Fred Boatwright
Hello,

Where would I find startx?  I assume it is part one of the ports under
X11
but I don't want to install all of them to find it.

Also, is p5-Tk the same as Perl/Tk?

Best regards,

Fred
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Re: Grepping a list of words

2010-08-12 Thread Oliver Fromme
John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
% egrep 'word1|word2|word3|...|wordn' filename.txt
  
   Thanks for the replies. This suggestion won't do the job as the list of
   words is very long, maybe 50-60. This is why I asked how to place them all
   in a file. One reply dealt with using a file with egrep. I'll try that.
  
  Gee, 50 words, that's about a 300 character pattern, that's not a problem
  for any shell or version of grep I know.
  
  But reading the words from a file is equivalent and as you note most
  likely easier to do.

The question is what is more efficient.  This might be
important if that kind of grep command is run very often
by a script, or if it's run on very large files.

My guess is that one large regular expression is more
efficient than many small ones.  But I haven't done real
benchmarks to prove this.

Best regards
   Oliver

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Re : Re : Re : How to connect a jail to the web ?

2010-08-12 Thread Brice ERRANDONEA


 Where did you get that second IP address from?  Did you just
 add it manually?  Or is that the address that your gateway
 (DSL router, whatever) got assigned from your ISP?

I added it manually in rc.conf (on the host) :

hostname=FreeBSD.ici
ifconfig_rl0=DHCP
keymap=fr.iso.acc   (yes, I'm french)
moused_enable=YES
saver=dragon
hald_enable=YES
dbus_enable=YES
devfs_system_ruleset=localrules

jail_enable=NO
jail_list=MaPrison
jail_interface=rl0
jail_devfs_ruleset=devfsrules_jail
jail_devfs_enable=YES

jail_server_rootdir=/usr/prison
jail_server_hostname=MaPrison
jail_server_ip=93.0.168.242

I choosed it because that's my computer's public ip, at least according to this 
website : http://whatismyipaddress.com/

 I assume that IP address is not really routed to your host,
 but that NAT (Network Address Translation) is used on your
 router.  So you cannot use that address on the host.
 (If that's not true, please exlain the structure of your
 network in more detail.)

My network is VERY simple. I've got a modem (or box) provided by my phone 
company. It's called a neufbox and acts as a gateway. The computer with 
FreeBSD is connected to this box through an ethernet cable. Two other 
computers are connected to it via wifi.

 So, if my assumptions are true, you must use the address
 192.168.1.38 for your jail.  Make sure that DNS is working
 inside the jail ...  It should be sufficient to copy
 /etc/resolv.conf from the host to /usr/prison/etc/resolv.conf

OK, I'll try this.

 If it still doesn't work:  Are you using any packet filter
 (ipfw, ipf, pf)?  If so, please show the complete list of
 rules.

No, I don't. I've tried pf but you told it was not necessary.

 Otherwise, it might help to run tcpdump(1) on the host, so
 you can see the actual packets that are transmitted and
 received.

Allright. I try it too.

Good bye for the moment and thanks for your help.

Brice



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Re: X11 question

2010-08-12 Thread Oliver Fromme
Fred Boatwright f...@blakemfg.com wrote:
  Where would I find startx?  I assume it is part one of the ports
  under X11 but I don't want to install all of them to find it.

It's in x11/xinit.  You can use porgle to find out:

http://www.secnetix.de/tools/porgle/porgle.py?w=pq=startx

It has four hits, but it's not difficult to narrow it down
from there.

  Also, is p5-Tk the same as Perl/Tk?

I think so.

Best regards
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Re: Grepping a list of words

2010-08-12 Thread Anonymous
Oliver Fromme o...@lurza.secnetix.de writes:

 John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
 % egrep 'word1|word2|word3|...|wordn' filename.txt
   
Thanks for the replies. This suggestion won't do the job as the list of
words is very long, maybe 50-60. This is why I asked how to place them 
 all
in a file. One reply dealt with using a file with egrep. I'll try that.
   
   Gee, 50 words, that's about a 300 character pattern, that's not a problem
   for any shell or version of grep I know.
   
   But reading the words from a file is equivalent and as you note most
   likely easier to do.

 The question is what is more efficient.  This might be
 important if that kind of grep command is run very often
 by a script, or if it's run on very large files.

 My guess is that one large regular expression is more
 efficient than many small ones.  But I haven't done real
 benchmarks to prove this.

BTW, not using regular expressions is even more efficient, e.g.

  $ fgrep -f /usr/share/dict/words /etc/group

When using egrep(1) it takes considerably more time and memory.
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Re: Grepping a list of words

2010-08-12 Thread Chip Camden
Quoth Anonymous on Thursday, 12 August 2010:
 Oliver Fromme o...@lurza.secnetix.de writes:
 
  John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
  % egrep 'word1|word2|word3|...|wordn' filename.txt

 Thanks for the replies. This suggestion won't do the job as the list of
 words is very long, maybe 50-60. This is why I asked how to place them 
  all
 in a file. One reply dealt with using a file with egrep. I'll try that.

Gee, 50 words, that's about a 300 character pattern, that's not a problem
for any shell or version of grep I know.

But reading the words from a file is equivalent and as you note most
likely easier to do.
 
  The question is what is more efficient.  This might be
  important if that kind of grep command is run very often
  by a script, or if it's run on very large files.
 
  My guess is that one large regular expression is more
  efficient than many small ones.  But I haven't done real
  benchmarks to prove this.
 
 BTW, not using regular expressions is even more efficient, e.g.
 
   $ fgrep -f /usr/share/dict/words /etc/group
 
 When using egrep(1) it takes considerably more time and memory.

Having written a regex engine myself, I can see why.  Though I'm sure
egrep is highly optimized, even the most optimized DFA table is going to take 
more
cycles to navigate than a simple string comparison.  Not to mention the
initial overhead of parsing the regex and building that table.

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Re: ZFS data from snv_b134 to fbsd

2010-08-12 Thread David Brodbeck


On Aug 12, 2010, at 6:10 AM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:

I want to transfer a lot of ZFS data from an old OpenSolaris ZFS  
mirror (v22) to a new FreeBSD-8.1 ZFs mirror (v14).
If I boot off the OpenSolaris boot CD and import both mirrors will  
the copying from v22 ZFS to v14 ZFS be harmless?
I'm not sure if this is teh right mailinglist for this question. Let  
me know.


I'm NOT a ZFS expert, but I think it should be OK as long as you don't  
upgrade the v14 pool.  OpenSolaris won't upgrade pool versions  
automatically, so this shouldn' t be a problem.


I'm assuming this is a normal file copy, here; if you're trying to use  
'zfs send' and 'zfs receive' I think you'll run into difficulty.


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Re: Grepping a list of words

2010-08-12 Thread John R. Levine

 Gee, 50 words, that's about a 300 character pattern, that's not a problem
 for any shell or version of grep I know.

 But reading the words from a file is equivalent and as you note most
 likely easier to do.

The question is what is more efficient.  This might be
important if that kind of grep command is run very often
by a script, or if it's run on very large files.


It's exactly the same, since it's the same program using the same search 
algorithm.  The only thing that's different is the input language for the 
pattern.  What looks like a bunch of separate patterns in the input file 
is internally turned into one pattern that is then compiled into a state 
machine that it uses to match the input.


R's,
John
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Re: UPS question

2010-08-12 Thread Al Plant

David Brodbeck wrote:

On Wed, August 11, 2010 1:18 pm, Ryan Coleman wrote:

On Aug 11, 2010, at 3:06 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:


On Wed, August 11, 2010 12:25 pm, Ryan Coleman wrote:

He thinks that at 500W needed it would give me about 12 minutes on a
1400VA. My consideration is, then, give the server 2 minutes on
battery.
If full power has not been returned, shut down the server but leave the
modem (w/ wireless) and switch running with power for up to 6 hours.

A bit of advice: If this is an unattended system, give some thought to
how
you will boot the server back up if the outage is longer than two
minutes
but shorter than six hours.  Most UPS installations have *some* kind of
race condition issue if power comes back after the servers have begun a
shutdown, but in your case it's an unusually long window.

Meaning that my 2-minute window is unusually long? If the UPS can support
the system for 12 minutes, I say give it 20% of the life of the support
because our power outages here are usually spikes that kill my current web
server (but amazingly *not* my file server). In fact, one of those power
fluxes occurred last night. I love storms for the light shows, but hate
them for the toll they take on my servers.


Nope, 2 minutes is fine, maybe even short depending on how long your
system takes to shut down.  What I'm asking about is this scenario:

1. Power goes out.
2. Server shuts itself down after 2 minutes.
3. Power comes back on before the UPS batteries are exhausted.

The server never sees a power cycle, so it doesn't boot itself back up
until someone physically goes and pushes the button.


##


I have had these power dips and surges here in Hawaii. I have installed 
 UPS power from two stationary batters that will run the servers for 12 
hours. We have experienced extensive outages in the past and this was 
our only solution. Surges are almost impossible to stop. I have them 
jump cross a surge protector. I have recently  had several UPS Desktop 
backups fail from a surge and then a drop below 70 v. This caused the 
UPS to have the charging diodes blow. It was cheaper to replace the UPS 
's than to repair them.


#3. The motherboard bios can be set to stop a server from self booting 
from a power outage.



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Re: X11 question

2010-08-12 Thread Tim Kellers

/usr/ports/x11/xinit

On my system (with X, obviously, already installed):


beta# whereis startx

startx: /usr/local/bin/startx /usr/local/man/man1/startx.1.gz

beta# pkg_which /usr/local/bin/startx

xinit-1.2.0

beta# whereis xinit

xinit: /usr/local/bin/xinit /usr/local/man/man1/xinit.1.gz 
/usr/ports/x11/xinit


I' m not certain about the p5/Perl TK questions, but in the file: 
/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/p5-Tk/pkg-descr

there is this description:

This a re-port of a perl interface to Tk8.4 (John Ousterhout's production
release).

Perl API is essentially the same as Tk800.025 but has not
been verified as compliant.

It also includes all the C code parts of Tix8.1.4 from SourceForge.
The perl code corresponding to Tix's Tcl code is not fully implemented.

This version (Tk804.025) is only likely to work with perl5.8+.

Tim Kellers



On 08/12/10 12:02, Fred Boatwright wrote:

Hello,

Where would I find startx?  I assume it is part one of the ports under
X11
but I don't want to install all of them to find it.

Also, is p5-Tk the same as Perl/Tk?

Best regards,

Fred
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Re: ZFS data from snv_b134 to fbsd

2010-08-12 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

 On 12-8-2010 20:04, David Brodbeck wrote:


On Aug 12, 2010, at 6:10 AM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:

I want to transfer a lot of ZFS data from an old OpenSolaris ZFS 
mirror (v22) to a new FreeBSD-8.1 ZFs mirror (v14).
I'm NOT a ZFS expert, but I think it should be OK as long as you don't 
upgrade the v14 pool.  OpenSolaris won't upgrade pool versions 
automatically, so this shouldn' t be a problem.


I'm assuming this is a normal file copy, here; if you're trying to use 
'zfs send' and 'zfs receive' I think you'll run into difficulty.
Yes, it will be normal file copying. It's eassuring that osol won't 
ugrade the pool ;-) My main concern was that there would be some 
(although maybe slight) difference between FreeBSD ZFS and OpenSolaris.

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Re: UPS question

2010-08-12 Thread Ryan Coleman

On Aug 12, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Al Plant wrote:

 David Brodbeck wrote:
 On Wed, August 11, 2010 1:18 pm, Ryan Coleman wrote:
 On Aug 11, 2010, at 3:06 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:
 
 On Wed, August 11, 2010 12:25 pm, Ryan Coleman wrote:
 He thinks that at 500W needed it would give me about 12 minutes on a
 1400VA. My consideration is, then, give the server 2 minutes on
 battery.
 If full power has not been returned, shut down the server but leave the
 modem (w/ wireless) and switch running with power for up to 6 hours.
 A bit of advice: If this is an unattended system, give some thought to
 how
 you will boot the server back up if the outage is longer than two
 minutes
 but shorter than six hours.  Most UPS installations have *some* kind of
 race condition issue if power comes back after the servers have begun a
 shutdown, but in your case it's an unusually long window.
 Meaning that my 2-minute window is unusually long? If the UPS can support
 the system for 12 minutes, I say give it 20% of the life of the support
 because our power outages here are usually spikes that kill my current web
 server (but amazingly *not* my file server). In fact, one of those power
 fluxes occurred last night. I love storms for the light shows, but hate
 them for the toll they take on my servers.
 Nope, 2 minutes is fine, maybe even short depending on how long your
 system takes to shut down.  What I'm asking about is this scenario:
 1. Power goes out.
 2. Server shuts itself down after 2 minutes.
 3. Power comes back on before the UPS batteries are exhausted.
 The server never sees a power cycle, so it doesn't boot itself back up
 until someone physically goes and pushes the button.
 ##
 
 I have had these power dips and surges here in Hawaii. I have installed  UPS 
 power from two stationary batters that will run the servers for 12 hours. We 
 have experienced extensive outages in the past and this was our only 
 solution. Surges are almost impossible to stop. I have them jump cross a 
 surge protector. I have recently  had several UPS Desktop backups fail from a 
 surge and then a drop below 70 v. This caused the UPS to have the charging 
 diodes blow. It was cheaper to replace the UPS 's than to repair them.
 
 #3. The motherboard bios can be set to stop a server from self booting from a 
 power outage.
 


Yes. The downside comes from when the BIOS is told to turn on the server at, 
say, 10pm and the power is still out... it starts the process and runs out of 
battery mid-way through the boot before it gets the chance to load the UPS 
controller.

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Re: ZFS data from snv_b134 to fbsd

2010-08-12 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Aug 12), David Brodbeck said:
 On Aug 12, 2010, at 6:10 AM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
  I want to transfer a lot of ZFS data from an old OpenSolaris ZFS mirror
  (v22) to a new FreeBSD-8.1 ZFs mirror (v14).  If I boot off the
  OpenSolaris boot CD and import both mirrors will the copying from v22
  ZFS to v14 ZFS be harmless?  I'm not sure if this is teh right
  mailinglist for this question.  Let me know.
 
 I'm NOT a ZFS expert, but I think it should be OK as long as you don't
 upgrade the v14 pool.  OpenSolaris won't upgrade pool versions
 automatically, so this shouldn' t be a problem.

You can also explicitly create lower-version pools with zpool create -o
version=14 ..., if you need to create one from a machine with a newer
kernel.

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Re: UPS question

2010-08-12 Thread David Brodbeck


On Aug 12, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote:
Yes. The downside comes from when the BIOS is told to turn on the  
server at, say, 10pm and the power is still out... it starts the  
process and runs out of battery mid-way through the boot before it  
gets the chance to load the UPS controller.


You may want to think about using two UPS units -- a large one for  
your server, and a smaller one for your network stack.  This way you  
can use UPS monitoring software (like NUT or PowerChute) to have the  
server command its UPS to switch off when it's fully shut down.  Then  
when power comes back the server UPS will switch back on and the  
server will boot back up, assuming you've set the BIOS to boot up on  
power recovery.  Some UPS units have the ability to set a power  
recovery delay to ensure the battery has some charge before the server  
starts up, too.


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Re: ZFS data from snv_b134 to fbsd

2010-08-12 Thread David Brodbeck


On Aug 12, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:


On 12-8-2010 20:04, David Brodbeck wrote:


On Aug 12, 2010, at 6:10 AM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:

I want to transfer a lot of ZFS data from an old OpenSolaris ZFS  
mirror (v22) to a new FreeBSD-8.1 ZFs mirror (v14).
I'm NOT a ZFS expert, but I think it should be OK as long as you  
don't upgrade the v14 pool.  OpenSolaris won't upgrade pool  
versions automatically, so this shouldn' t be a problem.


I'm assuming this is a normal file copy, here; if you're trying to  
use 'zfs send' and 'zfs receive' I think you'll run into difficulty.
Yes, it will be normal file copying. It's eassuring that osol won't  
ugrade the pool ;-)


Right.  You have to explicitly run zpool upgrade to upgrade pool  
versions.  So, don't do that. ;)


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Re: X11 question

2010-08-12 Thread Fred Boatwright
Hi Oliver and Tim,

I installed xinit but startx still doesn't exist.  whereis returns
nothing and man startx returns nothing.

Fred

Tim Kellers wrote:
 
 /usr/ports/x11/xinit
 
 On my system (with X, obviously, already installed):
 
 beta# whereis startx
 
 startx: /usr/local/bin/startx /usr/local/man/man1/startx.1.gz
 
 beta# pkg_which /usr/local/bin/startx
 
 xinit-1.2.0
 
 beta# whereis xinit
 
 xinit: /usr/local/bin/xinit /usr/local/man/man1/xinit.1.gz
 /usr/ports/x11/xinit
 
 I' m not certain about the p5/Perl TK questions, but in the file:
 /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/p5-Tk/pkg-descr
 there is this description:
 
 This a re-port of a perl interface to Tk8.4 (John Ousterhout's production
 release).
 
 Perl API is essentially the same as Tk800.025 but has not
 been verified as compliant.
 
 It also includes all the C code parts of Tix8.1.4 from SourceForge.
 The perl code corresponding to Tix's Tcl code is not fully implemented.
 
 This version (Tk804.025) is only likely to work with perl5.8+.
 
 Tim Kellers
 
 On 08/12/10 12:02, Fred Boatwright wrote:
  Hello,
 
  Where would I find startx?  I assume it is part one of the ports under
  X11
  but I don't want to install all of them to find it.
 
  Also, is p5-Tk the same as Perl/Tk?
 
  Best regards,
 
  Fred
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Re: UPS question

2010-08-12 Thread Ryan Coleman

On Aug 12, 2010, at 2:49 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:

 
 On Aug 12, 2010, at 12:40 PM, Ryan Coleman wrote:
 Yes. The downside comes from when the BIOS is told to turn on the server at, 
 say, 10pm and the power is still out... it starts the process and runs out 
 of battery mid-way through the boot before it gets the chance to load the 
 UPS controller.
 
 You may want to think about using two UPS units -- a large one for your 
 server, and a smaller one for your network stack.  This way you can use UPS 
 monitoring software (like NUT or PowerChute) to have the server command its 
 UPS to switch off when it's fully shut down.  Then when power comes back the 
 server UPS will switch back on and the server will boot back up, assuming 
 you've set the BIOS to boot up on power recovery.  Some UPS units have the 
 ability to set a power recovery delay to ensure the battery has some charge 
 before the server starts up, too.

Great idea, I'll definitely keep that in mind.

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Re: X11 question

2010-08-12 Thread Samuel Martín Moro
pkg_info | grep xinit
rehash (if using some *csh)
which startx
?

Samuel Martín Moro
{EPITECH.} tek4
CamTrace S.A.S
  (+033) 1 41 38 37 60
  1 Allée de la Venelle
  92150 Suresnes
  FRANCE

Nobody wants to say how this works.
  Maybe nobody knows ...
  Xorg.conf(5)


On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Fred Boatwright f...@blakemfg.com wrote:

 Hi Oliver and Tim,

 I installed xinit but startx still doesn't exist.  whereis returns
 nothing and man startx returns nothing.

 Fred

 Tim Kellers wrote:
 
  /usr/ports/x11/xinit
 
  On my system (with X, obviously, already installed):
 
  beta# whereis startx
 
  startx: /usr/local/bin/startx /usr/local/man/man1/startx.1.gz
 
  beta# pkg_which /usr/local/bin/startx
 
  xinit-1.2.0
 
  beta# whereis xinit
 
  xinit: /usr/local/bin/xinit /usr/local/man/man1/xinit.1.gz
  /usr/ports/x11/xinit
 
  I' m not certain about the p5/Perl TK questions, but in the file:
  /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/p5-Tk/pkg-descr
  there is this description:
 
  This a re-port of a perl interface to Tk8.4 (John Ousterhout's production
  release).
 
  Perl API is essentially the same as Tk800.025 but has not
  been verified as compliant.
 
  It also includes all the C code parts of Tix8.1.4 from SourceForge.
  The perl code corresponding to Tix's Tcl code is not fully implemented.
 
  This version (Tk804.025) is only likely to work with perl5.8+.
 
  Tim Kellers
 
  On 08/12/10 12:02, Fred Boatwright wrote:
   Hello,
  
   Where would I find startx?  I assume it is part one of the ports under
   X11
   but I don't want to install all of them to find it.
  
   Also, is p5-Tk the same as Perl/Tk?
  
   Best regards,
  
   Fred
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Re: X11 question

2010-08-12 Thread Tim Kellers

Fred,

From man startx(1):

SEE ALSO
   xinit(1), X(7), Xserver(1), Xorg(1), xorg.conf(5)

Try:

# whereis X

If X is installed, it should return:

# X: /usr/local/bin/X

pkg_which if X is installed should return:

# pkg_which /usr/local/bin/X

xorg-server-1.7.5,1

If it doesn't, then the full X server isn't installed:

Try:

# whereis xorg

xorg: /usr/ports/x11/xorg

If xorg isn't installed, cd to:

/usr/ports/x11/xorg

and

make config-recursive  (If you add any options, run make 
config-recursive a second time after the shell prompt returns)


and then

make install clean

HTH

Tim Kellers







On 08/12/10 15:40, Fred Boatwright wrote:

Hi Oliver and Tim,

I installed xinit but startx still doesn't exist.  whereis returns
nothing and man startx returns nothing.

Fred

Tim Kellers wrote:
   

/usr/ports/x11/xinit

On my system (with X, obviously, already installed):

beta# whereis startx

startx: /usr/local/bin/startx /usr/local/man/man1/startx.1.gz

beta# pkg_which /usr/local/bin/startx

xinit-1.2.0

beta# whereis xinit

xinit: /usr/local/bin/xinit /usr/local/man/man1/xinit.1.gz
/usr/ports/x11/xinit

I' m not certain about the p5/Perl TK questions, but in the file:
/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/p5-Tk/pkg-descr
there is this description:

This a re-port of a perl interface to Tk8.4 (John Ousterhout's production
release).

Perl API is essentially the same as Tk800.025 but has not
been verified as compliant.

It also includes all the C code parts of Tix8.1.4 from SourceForge.
The perl code corresponding to Tix's Tcl code is not fully implemented.

This version (Tk804.025) is only likely to work with perl5.8+.

Tim Kellers

On 08/12/10 12:02, Fred Boatwright wrote:
 

Hello,

Where would I find startx?  I assume it is part one of the ports under
X11
but I don't want to install all of them to find it.

Also, is p5-Tk the same as Perl/Tk?

Best regards,

Fred
   


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releases, branches,..

2010-08-12 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

 My years of OpenSolaris made me forget the use of releases and branches.
I'm not into too much compiling anymore. I want a stable, but also safe 
server.

I'm running 8.1-RELEASE now, but what about security issues found?
What do I need to run if I want the lates and needed security patches?
I do not want to update my system (at least as few times as possible)
Which brach do I follow? I have the feeling that STABLE is too innovative(?)
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Re: releases, branches,..

2010-08-12 Thread Svein Skogen (Listmail account)
On 12.08.2010 22:46, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:
  My years of OpenSolaris made me forget the use of releases and branches.
 I'm not into too much compiling anymore. I want a stable, but also safe
 server.
 I'm running 8.1-RELEASE now, but what about security issues found?
 What do I need to run if I want the lates and needed security patches?
 I do not want to update my system (at least as few times as possible)
 Which brach do I follow? I have the feeling that STABLE is too
 innovative(?)

-RELEASE but keep an eye on the advisories.

This comes from someone who's been running RELENG_x for prod setups for
more than a decade.

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Re: releases, branches,..

2010-08-12 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 22:46:18 +0200, Dick Hoogendijk d...@nagual.nl wrote:
   My years of OpenSolaris made me forget the use of releases and branches.
 I'm not into too much compiling anymore. I want a stable, but also safe 
 server.
 I'm running 8.1-RELEASE now, but what about security issues found?
 What do I need to run if I want the lates and needed security patches?
 I do not want to update my system (at least as few times as possible)
 Which brach do I follow? I have the feeling that STABLE is too innovative(?)

In this case, use freebsd-update to track -RELEASE; you will
get the security patches by binary updating, e. g. you can use
this tool to get from 8.1-RELEASE to 8.1-RELEASE-p1 without the
need to compile anything.

See man freebsd-update for details.



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Re: releases, branches,..

2010-08-12 Thread Dick Hoogendijk

 On 12-8-2010 22:53, Polytropon wrote:

On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 22:46:18 +0200, Dick Hoogendijkd...@nagual.nl  wrote:

I'm running 8.1-RELEASE now, but what about security issues found?
Which brach do I follow?

In this case, use freebsd-update to track -RELEASE; you will
get the security patches by binary updating, e. g. you can use
this tool to get from 8.1-RELEASE to 8.1-RELEASE-p1 without the
need to compile anything.

See man freebsd-update for details.
Thank you. I will follow RELEASE than. Also a thanks to Svein. ;-) Is 
RELEASE automaticaly set in a fresh FreeBSD install or do I need to 
change anything?


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Re: releases, branches,..

2010-08-12 Thread Rocky Borg

On 8/12/2010 2:02 PM, Dick Hoogendijk wrote:

 On 12-8-2010 22:53, Polytropon wrote:
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 22:46:18 +0200, Dick Hoogendijkd...@nagual.nl  
wrote:

I'm running 8.1-RELEASE now, but what about security issues found?
Which brach do I follow?

In this case, use freebsd-update to track -RELEASE; you will
get the security patches by binary updating, e. g. you can use
this tool to get from 8.1-RELEASE to 8.1-RELEASE-p1 without the
need to compile anything.

See man freebsd-update for details.
Thank you. I will follow RELEASE than. Also a thanks to Svein. ;-) Is 
RELEASE automaticaly set in a fresh FreeBSD install or do I need to 
change anything?




uname -raa

freebsd-update will update that version you have installed (so yes 
RELEASE in a fresh install) only with security patches. If a new version 
comes out you want to upgrade to you would do something like


freebsd-update upgrade -r 8.3-RELEASE

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Re: releases, branches,..

2010-08-12 Thread Polytropon
On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 23:02:01 +0200, Dick Hoogendijk d...@nagual.nl wrote:
 Thank you. I will follow RELEASE than. Also a thanks to Svein. ;-) Is 
 RELEASE automaticaly set in a fresh FreeBSD install or do I need to 
 change anything?

The freebsd-update program will track RELEASE-p because this is
what it can do. It won't follow STABLE because that's not possible
with this tool. :-)

The common method of freebsd-update upgrade (see manpage) will
then bring you to 8.1-RELEASE, I think, and will then follow the
track of 8.1-RELEASE-p1, -p2, -p3 and so on. You can additionally
request a specific release with the -r parameter.





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Re: X11 question

2010-08-12 Thread Fred Boatwright
pkg_info | grep xinit  doesn't return anything
rehash
which startx
startx: Command not found

whereis X
X: /usr/local/bin/X

pkg_which /usr/local/bin/X
pkg_which:  Command not found

Oliver:  I used your porgle tool to find pkg_which and will install it
later. Porgle appears to be a very useful tool.

I installed x11-servers/xorg-server but maybe should have installed Xorg
instead.  However, from looking at the pkg-descr for xorg it looks like
it will install a huge amount of software that will not get used.  I am
reluctant to do this.  I have installed 8.0-RELEASE from the CD and I
want to run olvwm for a desktop.  I have been using Solaris 2.6 with the
OpenWindows desktop for 12 years and consider it to be as close to
perfection as one can get.  I am being forced, kicking and screaming, to
move to some other type of Unix on a PC and would like to continue using
OpenWindows.  It is probably going to be an uphill battle to get olvwm
to work.  Am I going to have to install xorg to get everything needed?

Best regards,
Fred

Tim Kellers wrote:
 
 Fred,
 
  From man startx(1):
 
 SEE ALSO
 xinit(1), X(7), Xserver(1), Xorg(1), xorg.conf(5)
 
 Try:
 
 # whereis X
 
 If X is installed, it should return:
 
 # X: /usr/local/bin/X
 
 pkg_which if X is installed should return:
 
 # pkg_which /usr/local/bin/X
 
 xorg-server-1.7.5,1
 
 If it doesn't, then the full X server isn't installed:
 
 Try:
 
 # whereis xorg
 
 xorg: /usr/ports/x11/xorg
 
 If xorg isn't installed, cd to:
 
 /usr/ports/x11/xorg
 
 and
 
 make config-recursive  (If you add any options, run make
 config-recursive a second time after the shell prompt returns)
 
 and then
 
 make install clean
 
 HTH
 
 Tim Kellers
 
 On 08/12/10 15:40, Fred Boatwright wrote:
  Hi Oliver and Tim,
 
  I installed xinit but startx still doesn't exist.  whereis returns
  nothing and man startx returns nothing.
 
  Fred
 
  Tim Kellers wrote:
 
  /usr/ports/x11/xinit
 
  On my system (with X, obviously, already installed):
 
  beta# whereis startx
 
  startx: /usr/local/bin/startx /usr/local/man/man1/startx.1.gz
 
  beta# pkg_which /usr/local/bin/startx
 
  xinit-1.2.0
 
  beta# whereis xinit
 
  xinit: /usr/local/bin/xinit /usr/local/man/man1/xinit.1.gz
  /usr/ports/x11/xinit
 
  I' m not certain about the p5/Perl TK questions, but in the file:
  /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/p5-Tk/pkg-descr
  there is this description:
 
  This a re-port of a perl interface to Tk8.4 (John Ousterhout's production
  release).
 
  Perl API is essentially the same as Tk800.025 but has not
  been verified as compliant.
 
  It also includes all the C code parts of Tix8.1.4 from SourceForge.
  The perl code corresponding to Tix's Tcl code is not fully implemented.
 
  This version (Tk804.025) is only likely to work with perl5.8+.
 
  Tim Kellers
 
  On 08/12/10 12:02, Fred Boatwright wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  Where would I find startx?  I assume it is part one of the ports under
  X11
  but I don't want to install all of them to find it.
 
  Also, is p5-Tk the same as Perl/Tk?
 
  Best regards,
 
  Fred
 
 
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Re: X11 question

2010-08-12 Thread Samuel Martín Moro
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Fred Boatwright f...@blakemfg.com wrote:

 pkg_info | grep xinit  doesn't return anything

then, you doesn't have installed xinit, and startx can't be here
pkg_add -rv xinit
and then, if it doesn't fail, try again:
rehash
which startx

 rehash
 which startx
 startx: Command not found

 whereis X
 X: /usr/local/bin/X

 pkg_which /usr/local/bin/X
 pkg_which:  Command not found

 Oliver:  I used your porgle tool to find pkg_which and will install it
 later. Porgle appears to be a very useful tool.

 I installed x11-servers/xorg-server but maybe should have installed Xorg
 instead.  However, from looking at the pkg-descr for xorg it looks like
 it will install a huge amount of software that will not get used.  I am
 reluctant to do this.  I have installed 8.0-RELEASE from the CD and I
 want to run olvwm for a desktop.  I have been using Solaris 2.6 with the
 OpenWindows desktop for 12 years and consider it to be as close to
 perfection as one can get.  I am being forced, kicking and screaming, to
 move to some other type of Unix on a PC and would like to continue using
 OpenWindows.  It is probably going to be an uphill battle to get olvwm
 to work.  Am I going to have to install xorg to get everything needed?

 Best regards,
 Fred

 Tim Kellers wrote:
 
  Fred,
 
   From man startx(1):
 
  SEE ALSO
  xinit(1), X(7), Xserver(1), Xorg(1), xorg.conf(5)
 
  Try:
 
  # whereis X
 
  If X is installed, it should return:
 
  # X: /usr/local/bin/X
 
  pkg_which if X is installed should return:
 
  # pkg_which /usr/local/bin/X
 
  xorg-server-1.7.5,1
 
  If it doesn't, then the full X server isn't installed:
 
  Try:
 
  # whereis xorg
 
  xorg: /usr/ports/x11/xorg
 
  If xorg isn't installed, cd to:
 
  /usr/ports/x11/xorg
 
  and
 
  make config-recursive  (If you add any options, run make
  config-recursive a second time after the shell prompt returns)
 
  and then
 
  make install clean
 
  HTH
 
  Tim Kellers
 
  On 08/12/10 15:40, Fred Boatwright wrote:
   Hi Oliver and Tim,
  
   I installed xinit but startx still doesn't exist.  whereis returns
   nothing and man startx returns nothing.
  
   Fred
  
   Tim Kellers wrote:
  
   /usr/ports/x11/xinit
  
   On my system (with X, obviously, already installed):
  
   beta# whereis startx
  
   startx: /usr/local/bin/startx /usr/local/man/man1/startx.1.gz
  
   beta# pkg_which /usr/local/bin/startx
  
   xinit-1.2.0
  
   beta# whereis xinit
  
   xinit: /usr/local/bin/xinit /usr/local/man/man1/xinit.1.gz
   /usr/ports/x11/xinit
  
   I' m not certain about the p5/Perl TK questions, but in the file:
   /usr/ports/x11-toolkits/p5-Tk/pkg-descr
   there is this description:
  
   This a re-port of a perl interface to Tk8.4 (John Ousterhout's
 production
   release).
  
   Perl API is essentially the same as Tk800.025 but has not
   been verified as compliant.
  
   It also includes all the C code parts of Tix8.1.4 from SourceForge.
   The perl code corresponding to Tix's Tcl code is not fully
 implemented.
  
   This version (Tk804.025) is only likely to work with perl5.8+.
  
   Tim Kellers
  
   On 08/12/10 12:02, Fred Boatwright wrote:
  
   Hello,
  
   Where would I find startx?  I assume it is part one of the ports
 under
   X11
   but I don't want to install all of them to find it.
  
   Also, is p5-Tk the same as Perl/Tk?
  
   Best regards,
  
   Fred
  
 
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OpenOffice.org 3.2.1 build error

2010-08-12 Thread Caleb Stein

Whenever I try to build OOo, I get this error: http://pastebin.com/8DBKJAhb

How do I rebuild cppunit?
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Re: OpenOffice.org 3.2.1 build error

2010-08-12 Thread Greg Larkin
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Caleb Stein wrote:
 Whenever I try to build OOo, I get this error: http://pastebin.com/8DBKJAhb
 
 How do I rebuild cppunit?

Hi Caleb,

A few resources suggest that the error is caused by a conflict with the
installed devel/cppunit package.  Can you pkg_delete it and try the OOo
build again?

This PR contains a reference to the problem near the bottom:
http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/132888 and pkg_delete
is the suggested fix.

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Re: X11 question

2010-08-12 Thread Chris Hill

On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Fred Boatwright wrote:

[snip]

I installed x11-servers/xorg-server but maybe should have installed Xorg 
instead.  However, from looking at the pkg-descr for xorg it looks like 
it will install a huge amount of software that will not get used.  I am 
reluctant to do this.  I have installed 8.0-RELEASE from the CD and I 
want to run olvwm for a desktop.  I have been using Solaris 2.6 with the 
OpenWindows desktop for 12 years and consider it to be as close to 
perfection as one can get.  I am being forced, kicking and screaming, to 
move to some other type of Unix on a PC and would like to continue using 
OpenWindows.  It is probably going to be an uphill battle to get olvwm 
to work.  Am I going to have to install xorg to get everything needed?


It really is the simplest way to get X working, and IMHO the least painful 
way to install xorg is to use the package. Without installing the xorg 
meta-port, you'd end up installing a lot of it by hand anyway.


Come to think of it - since olvwm is a port (/usr/ports/x11-wm/olvwm), I 
*guess* it would pull in all of xorg as a dependency anyway.


I, too, took a long time to come around to the idea that it doesn't do any 
harm to have unused software lying around. Disk is cheap; life is short.


Hope this helps.



Best regards,
Fred

Tim Kellers wrote:


Fred,

 From man startx(1):

SEE ALSO
xinit(1), X(7), Xserver(1), Xorg(1), xorg.conf(5)

Try:

# whereis X

If X is installed, it should return:

# X: /usr/local/bin/X

pkg_which if X is installed should return:

# pkg_which /usr/local/bin/X

xorg-server-1.7.5,1

If it doesn't, then the full X server isn't installed:

Try:

# whereis xorg

xorg: /usr/ports/x11/xorg

If xorg isn't installed, cd to:

/usr/ports/x11/xorg

and

make config-recursive  (If you add any options, run make
config-recursive a second time after the shell prompt returns)

and then

make install clean

HTH

Tim Kellers

On 08/12/10 15:40, Fred Boatwright wrote:

Hi Oliver and Tim,

I installed xinit but startx still doesn't exist.  whereis returns
nothing and man startx returns nothing.

Fred

Tim Kellers wrote:


/usr/ports/x11/xinit

On my system (with X, obviously, already installed):

beta# whereis startx

startx: /usr/local/bin/startx /usr/local/man/man1/startx.1.gz

beta# pkg_which /usr/local/bin/startx

xinit-1.2.0

beta# whereis xinit

xinit: /usr/local/bin/xinit /usr/local/man/man1/xinit.1.gz
/usr/ports/x11/xinit

I' m not certain about the p5/Perl TK questions, but in the file:
/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/p5-Tk/pkg-descr
there is this description:

This a re-port of a perl interface to Tk8.4 (John Ousterhout's production
release).

Perl API is essentially the same as Tk800.025 but has not
been verified as compliant.

It also includes all the C code parts of Tix8.1.4 from SourceForge.
The perl code corresponding to Tix's Tcl code is not fully implemented.

This version (Tk804.025) is only likely to work with perl5.8+.

Tim Kellers

On 08/12/10 12:02, Fred Boatwright wrote:


Hello,

Where would I find startx?  I assume it is part one of the ports under
X11
but I don't want to install all of them to find it.

Also, is p5-Tk the same as Perl/Tk?

Best regards,

Fred



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Re: X11 question

2010-08-12 Thread Warren Block

On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Chris Hill wrote:

On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Fred Boatwright wrote:

[snip]

I installed x11-servers/xorg-server but maybe should have installed Xorg 
instead.  However, from looking at the pkg-descr for xorg it looks like it 
will install a huge amount of software that will not get used.  I am 
reluctant to do this.

...
Am I going to have to install xorg to get everything needed?


It really is the simplest way to get X working, and IMHO the least painful 
way to install xorg is to use the package. Without installing the xorg 
meta-port, you'd end up installing a lot of it by hand anyway.


x11/xorg-minimal is reputed to be a lighter port.  Untested by me, 
though.

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Is there a way to rebuild 32-bit libraries under amd64?

2010-08-12 Thread Yuri
I have 8.0-STABLE amd64 machine, and I need to run some 32-bit FreeBSD 
process which runs fine on 8.0-STABLE i386.


So I copied all shared libs needed by it from i386 into there respective 
locations on amd64, but under lib32/ folder.

libexecinfo.so.1 = /usr/local/lib32/libexecinfo.so.1 (0x289ca000)
libffi.so.5 = /usr/local/lib32/libffi.so.5 (0x289d5000)
libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/local/lib32/libstdc++.so.6 (0x289da000)
libm.so.5 = /usr/lib32/libm.so.5 (0x28ac4000)
libgcc_s.so.1 = /usr/local/gcc/4.5.0-32bit/lib/libgcc_s.so.1 
(0x28add000)

libthr.so.3 = /usr/lib32/libthr.so.3 (0x28ae9000)
libc.so.7 = /usr/lib32/libc.so.7 (0x28afe000)

But the process crashes. After debugging I found that regexec returns 
result different from what it returns on i386 with the same input.


So my question is: is there a way to rebuild for example 
/usr/lib32/libc.so.7 and /usr/lib32/libthr.so.3 on amd64? Or what may 
cause such incompatibility?


Yuri
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Re: X11 question

2010-08-12 Thread Fred Boatwright
Indeed you are right.  I installed xinit from ports but something didn't
happen as it should have.  I tried again using pkg_add as you suggested
and startx does exist now.

I installed olvwm several days ago and it did not pull in the xorg stuff
also.

Thanks for the help!

Best regards,
Fred

Samuel Martín Moro wrote:
 
 On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 11:43 PM, Fred Boatwright f...@blakemfg.com wrote:
 
  pkg_info | grep xinit  doesn't return anything
 
 then, you doesn't have installed xinit, and startx can't be here
 pkg_add -rv xinit
 and then, if it doesn't fail, try again:
 rehash
 which startx
 
  rehash
  which startx
  startx: Command not found
 
  whereis X
  X: /usr/local/bin/X
 
  pkg_which /usr/local/bin/X
  pkg_which:  Command not found
 
  Oliver:  I used your porgle tool to find pkg_which and will install it
  later. Porgle appears to be a very useful tool.
 
  I installed x11-servers/xorg-server but maybe should have installed Xorg
  instead.  However, from looking at the pkg-descr for xorg it looks like
  it will install a huge amount of software that will not get used.  I am
  reluctant to do this.  I have installed 8.0-RELEASE from the CD and I
  want to run olvwm for a desktop.  I have been using Solaris 2.6 with the
  OpenWindows desktop for 12 years and consider it to be as close to
  perfection as one can get.  I am being forced, kicking and screaming, to
  move to some other type of Unix on a PC and would like to continue using
  OpenWindows.  It is probably going to be an uphill battle to get olvwm
  to work.  Am I going to have to install xorg to get everything needed?
 
  Best regards,
  Fred
 
  Tim Kellers wrote:
  
   Fred,
  
From man startx(1):
  
   SEE ALSO
   xinit(1), X(7), Xserver(1), Xorg(1), xorg.conf(5)
  
   Try:
  
   # whereis X
  
   If X is installed, it should return:
  
   # X: /usr/local/bin/X
  
   pkg_which if X is installed should return:
  
   # pkg_which /usr/local/bin/X
  
   xorg-server-1.7.5,1
  
   If it doesn't, then the full X server isn't installed:
  
   Try:
  
   # whereis xorg
  
   xorg: /usr/ports/x11/xorg
  
   If xorg isn't installed, cd to:
  
   /usr/ports/x11/xorg
  
   and
  
   make config-recursive  (If you add any options, run make
   config-recursive a second time after the shell prompt returns)
  
   and then
  
   make install clean
  
   HTH
  
   Tim Kellers
  
   On 08/12/10 15:40, Fred Boatwright wrote:
Hi Oliver and Tim,
   
I installed xinit but startx still doesn't exist.  whereis returns
nothing and man startx returns nothing.
   
Fred
   
Tim Kellers wrote:
   
/usr/ports/x11/xinit
   
On my system (with X, obviously, already installed):
   
beta# whereis startx
   
startx: /usr/local/bin/startx /usr/local/man/man1/startx.1.gz
   
beta# pkg_which /usr/local/bin/startx
   
xinit-1.2.0
   
beta# whereis xinit
   
xinit: /usr/local/bin/xinit /usr/local/man/man1/xinit.1.gz
/usr/ports/x11/xinit
   
I' m not certain about the p5/Perl TK questions, but in the file:
/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/p5-Tk/pkg-descr
there is this description:
   
This a re-port of a perl interface to Tk8.4 (John Ousterhout's
  production
release).
   
Perl API is essentially the same as Tk800.025 but has not
been verified as compliant.
   
It also includes all the C code parts of Tix8.1.4 from SourceForge.
The perl code corresponding to Tix's Tcl code is not fully
  implemented.
   
This version (Tk804.025) is only likely to work with perl5.8+.
   
Tim Kellers
   
On 08/12/10 12:02, Fred Boatwright wrote:
   
Hello,
   
Where would I find startx?  I assume it is part one of the ports
  under
X11
but I don't want to install all of them to find it.
   
Also, is p5-Tk the same as Perl/Tk?
   
Best regards,
   
Fred
   
  
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Re: UPS question

2010-08-12 Thread Al Plant

Ryan Coleman wrote:

On Aug 12, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Al Plant wrote:


David Brodbeck wrote:

On Wed, August 11, 2010 1:18 pm, Ryan Coleman wrote:

On Aug 11, 2010, at 3:06 PM, David Brodbeck wrote:


On Wed, August 11, 2010 12:25 pm, Ryan Coleman wrote:

He thinks that at 500W needed it would give me about 12 minutes on a
1400VA. My consideration is, then, give the server 2 minutes on
battery.
If full power has not been returned, shut down the server but leave the
modem (w/ wireless) and switch running with power for up to 6 hours.

A bit of advice: If this is an unattended system, give some thought to
how
you will boot the server back up if the outage is longer than two
minutes
but shorter than six hours.  Most UPS installations have *some* kind of
race condition issue if power comes back after the servers have begun a
shutdown, but in your case it's an unusually long window.

Meaning that my 2-minute window is unusually long? If the UPS can support
the system for 12 minutes, I say give it 20% of the life of the support
because our power outages here are usually spikes that kill my current web
server (but amazingly *not* my file server). In fact, one of those power
fluxes occurred last night. I love storms for the light shows, but hate
them for the toll they take on my servers.

Nope, 2 minutes is fine, maybe even short depending on how long your
system takes to shut down.  What I'm asking about is this scenario:
1. Power goes out.
2. Server shuts itself down after 2 minutes.
3. Power comes back on before the UPS batteries are exhausted.
The server never sees a power cycle, so it doesn't boot itself back up
until someone physically goes and pushes the button.
##

I have had these power dips and surges here in Hawaii. I have installed  UPS 
power from two stationary batters that will run the servers for 12 hours. We 
have experienced extensive outages in the past and this was our only solution. 
Surges are almost impossible to stop. I have them jump cross a surge protector. 
I have recently  had several UPS Desktop backups fail from a surge and then a 
drop below 70 v. This caused the UPS to have the charging diodes blow. It was 
cheaper to replace the UPS 's than to repair them.

#3. The motherboard bios can be set to stop a server from self booting from a 
power outage.




Yes. The downside comes from when the BIOS is told to turn on the server at, 
say, 10pm and the power is still out... it starts the process and runs out of 
battery mid-way through the boot before it gets the chance to load the UPS 
controller.





#3. Thats why setting the bios not to self boot would work. (Stopping the 
bios from turning the server on after an outage.) Someone would have to check the power 
status manually before throwing the switch manually to make it come up after power has 
been restored.  Also turning servers and some desktops off and on is many cases a bad 
idea.


Example:

I was called out today to look at a desktop that was turned off while 
the user went away for a month. It did not survive the turn on. 
Corrosion took its toll on the mobo and fans. The humidity was the 
cause. No humidity in the case when the unit is on and fans (3 of them) 
are working.


Hope you can solve your problem.



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Telnet = servname ai_socktype error

2010-08-12 Thread jaymax

FreeBSD my.domain.com 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May  1 08:49:13
UTC 2009 
r...@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386

Testing a Qmail SMTP installation with Telnet

(normally use SSH for networking)

Temporary Telnet set up for testing ==
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Server set up ==

% cat /etc/services | grep telnet
telnet   23/tcp
telnet   23/udp

% cat /etc/services | grep smtp
smtp 25/tcpmail #Simple Mail Transfer
smtp 25/udpmail #Simple Mail Transfer

% cat /etc/rc.conf
   inetd_enable=YES 


_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

But


% telnet 0 smtp
0: servname not supported for ai_socktype

% telnet localhost 25
   Trying 127.0.0.1...
   telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection reset by peer
   Trying ::1...
   telnet: connect to address ::1: Connection refused
   telnet: Unable to connect to remote host


sockstat -4 ==



sockstat -4
USER COMMANDPID   FD PROTO  LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRESS
myname   sshd   1732  3  tcp4   nnn.xxx.yyy.zzz:22  
aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd:1256
root sshd   1709  3  tcp4   nnn.xxx.yyy.zzz:22  
aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd:1256
root gnome-sess 1529  10 tcp4   *:54384   *:*
www  httpd  1328  3  tcp4   nnn.xxx.yyy.zzz:80   *:*
www  httpd  1328  4  tcp4   nnn.xxx.yyy.zzz:443  *:*
www  httpd  1327  3  tcp4   nnn.xxx.yyy.zzz:80   *:*
www  httpd  1327  4  tcp4   nnn.xxx.yyy.zzz:443  *:*
www  httpd  1326  3  tcp4   nnn.xxx.yyy.zzz:80   *:*
www  httpd  1326  4  tcp4   nnn.xxx.yyy.zzz:443  *:*
www  httpd  1325  3  tcp4   nnn.xxx.yyy.zzz:80   *:*
www  httpd  1325  4  tcp4   nnn.xxx.yyy.zzz:443  *:*
www  httpd  1324  3  tcp4   nnn.xxx.yyy.zzz:80   *:*
www  httpd  1324  4  tcp4   nnn.xxx.yyy.zzz:443  *:*
root Xorg   1314  3  tcp4   *:6000*:*
root inetd  1267  6  tcp4   *:143 *:*
root sshd   1239  4  tcp4   *:22  *:*
root httpd  1207  3  tcp4   nnn.xxx.yyy.zzz:80   *:*
root httpd  1207  4  tcp4   nnn.xxx.yyy.zzz:443  *:*
avahiavahi-daem 1176  15 udp4   *:5353*:*
avahiavahi-daem 1176  16 udp4   *:60699   *:*
mysqlmysqld 948   11 tcp4   *:3306*:*
root perl5.8.9  794   5  tcp4   *:1   *:*
root perl5.8.9  794   6  udp4   *:1   *:*
qmaild   tcpserver  778   3  tcp4   *:25  *:*
root tcpserver  776   3  tcp4   *:110 *:*
root mountd 667   7  udp4   *:914 *:*
root mountd 667   8  tcp4   *:914 *:*
root syslogd580   7  udp4   *:514 *:*
root ntpd   371   20 udp4   *:123 *:*
root ntpd   371   22 udp4   nnn.xxx.yyy.zzz:123  *:*
root ntpd   371   25 udp4   127.0.0.1:123 *:*



Anyone having ahy ideas as to what may be amiss?

Thanks!



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Re: Telnet = servname ai_socktype error

2010-08-12 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Aug 12), jaymax said:
 
 FreeBSD my.domain.com 7.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 7.2-RELEASE #0: Fri May  1 08:49:13
 UTC 2009 
 r...@walker.cse.buffalo.edu:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC  i386
 
 Testing a Qmail SMTP installation with Telnet
 
 (normally use SSH for networking)
 
 Temporary Telnet set up for testing ==
 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
 
 Server set up ==
 
 % telnet localhost 25
  Trying 127.0.0.1...
  telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection reset by peer

That sounds like you connected but qmail crashed or otherwise uncleanly
closed the socket.  Does a tcpdump on lo0 show any interesting activity when
you try that command?

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Re: Is there a way to rebuild 32-bit libraries under amd64?

2010-08-12 Thread b. f.
I have 8.0-STABLE amd64 machine, and I need to run some 32-bit FreeBSD
process which runs fine on 8.0-STABLE i386.

So I copied all shared libs needed by it from i386 into there respective
locations on amd64, but under lib32/ folder.
 libexecinfo.so.1 = /usr/local/lib32/libexecinfo.so.1 (0x289ca000)
 libffi.so.5 = /usr/local/lib32/libffi.so.5 (0x289d5000)
 libstdc++.so.6 = /usr/local/lib32/libstdc++.so.6 (0x289da000)
 libm.so.5 = /usr/lib32/libm.so.5 (0x28ac4000)
 libgcc_s.so.1 = /usr/local/gcc/4.5.0-32bit/lib/libgcc_s.so.1
(0x28add000)
 libthr.so.3 = /usr/lib32/libthr.so.3 (0x28ae9000)
 libc.so.7 = /usr/lib32/libc.so.7 (0x28afe000)

But the process crashes. After debugging I found that regexec returns
result different from what it returns on i386 with the same input.

So my question is: is there a way to rebuild for example
/usr/lib32/libc.so.7 and /usr/lib32/libthr.so.3 on amd64? Or what may
cause such incompatibility?

Did you install the 32-bit compatibility libraries and utilities on
amd64, by selecting the lib32 option with sysinstall(8), or by running
../lib32/install.sh from the FreeBSD media, or by rebuilding and
reinstalling world without a WITHOUT_LIB32 defined in src.conf(5) or
make.conf(5)?  Then did you make sure that rtld(1) has the proper
hints to find any needed 32-bit libraries that are not in the lib32
part of the base system, by defining the right values for
ldconfig32_paths and/or ldconfig_local32_dirs in rc.conf(5)?

b.
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